Morning Discussion

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  nws? : ass-street
  • not at all : Patch-e
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    nah perfectly ws : humbleone
    • That's because you don't know what achville is doing with his other hand! : Maddog_Delphi97
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  I didn't know Kevin James was a shacker : HojuSimpson
  • and he brought a young frances mcdormand as his date : dirge23
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  sparkley looks like he's about to rape you. : sigpro
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    Nah, he just looks like he's suspicious of you. : Kentor
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      he looks like a creepy dude with shifty eyes. : sigpro
      • Come on... some shifty nyranger66 gets in your face with his massive paparazzi iPhone camera, wouldn't yo... : Kentor
      • haha he looks like that in every single photo : TwiLyght
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  ummmmm why is this NWS? : Grumbeld
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    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG... : Rauol Duke
    • Well said, brah. : DrWaffles
• *swoon* : virus
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  I know it's just the camera, but sparkly looks fucking meth'd out to the MAX! : mace
  • He just looks scared as shit. : DrZettl
• those are the worst sunglasses I have ever seen. : Pacalon
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  Helvetica definitely looks WAY out of place in that room full of dorks. lol : FormerHPB
  • nah, she's pretty and dorky... pretty dorky. : drucifer
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  let me be the first to say hellooooooooooo helvetica : scottythejock
  • "heeeeyyyyyyy, sooooooo, how YOU doooooing?" : ezanga
  • Hahaha, I guess I wasn't the only one thinking this :D : shwortdogg
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  I haven't met a single shacker yet and I'm kinda sad over it. Anyone wanna grab drinks at the Glass Cac... : freakynipples69
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    We are at the carmack keynote. Afterwards sure : devnullgt
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      Yeah, so am I. In the back. First round on me afterwords. : freakynipples69
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        It's going to be an expensive first round. There are like 10 of us here : devnullgt
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          Order just beers then ;) : freakynipples69
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            We only drink the blood of innocents. : devnullgt
            • Fuccccckkkkk. Alllllright. : freakynipples69
            • At a quakecon...innocents, you say? : Caoster007
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      How long is this keynote? 2 hours? : Sole.exe
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        I think so. : freakynipples69
        • Yeah just found out its supposed to last until 6:30. : Sole.exe
    • Would you guys want to go to Margarita Bar instead? More casual than Glass Cactus. : freakynipples69
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    I always kind of assumed that everyone at Quakecon was a shacker. : Rich McNinch
    • Oh god I hope not. : freakynipples69
• Why is he wearing sunglasses? :[ : CrustaR
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  Why does that one dude look all angry in that first photo? : CrustaR
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    cos people are looking at his super awesome dork gf :( : moe6
    • 0wned!!! : CrustaR
  • Preemptive measures. : Kentor
• Front row left side is where we are. Find us after. : devnullgt
• helvetica is pretty : Nitrium
• Glad y'all made it :D : Dave-A
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  Dahanese, mikecyb, and I are here! : OverloadUT
  • At the Keynote or just resort? : freakynipples69
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    Run! : askedrelic
    • You first : devnullgt
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  Oh shit. Inf this Wolfeinstein and Doom Ressurection sale for Quakecon. 99cents for Wolfeinstein i... : razlebol
  • Ugh. I wanted this in the Rage trailer thread.. : razlebol
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  Anyone that wears sunglasses inside, unless they blind, should be punched in the face. : Drewus
  • /signed : dedgecko
  • i do and so does dognose, only cool people where sunglasses inside and at night. my daughter broke my cl : dignan
  • Except for dognose. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  that picture of sparkly is great. it could be an album cover. : MoreVespeneGas
  • ANAL BUM COVER : r3dn3ck
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  Sparkly looks like he's about 30 seconds away from killing someone. : Vincent Grayson
  • It's like this in most of his pictures, except for the ones where he is 30 seconds after killing someone ... : ryuuseki
• I'll bet there's like 3 people in that place that have ever had sex. And only 2 of them with another pers... : Phreakin
• helvetica u lookin good with the tan baby girl : arizona bay
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  If someone at the 'Con could pass along to helvetica that the pigs have been fed and watered for the day,... : Ninja Techno
  • Ninja Techno: hater of peegs : MoreVespeneGas
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  Please give rikitiki2 my cell, we are going to frys and then veggie Chinese, I an in front of the lobby : dognose
  • Are you leaving now now? Carmack seems to be wrapping up, I think : askedrelic
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  Someday I will go to one of these. :( : thetangent
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    Same, looks super fun and its been years since I've been to a LAN party. Working through Saturday though : Serpico74
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      Shackers don't go to Quakecon for the LAN. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • I kinda wanted to LAN a bit... : freakynipples69
      • Yeah, I've seen the pictures, read the stories : Serpico74
  • I'm hoping next year I have the time and money to go. : nurglich
  • 2010, GIMME DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! : locater16
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  Is Carmack mentioning Doom Classic for the iPhone? Where the hell is it? : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • If there's a Q&A, can someone ask that, please? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    he talked about it during the iphone stuff. he said expect a release every other month or so from their c... : re4ctor
    • Doom Classic has been done for a while, but id is sitting on it for a while. They have to schedule them o : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Sparkly really exists? : CRasterImage
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  Wasn't someone going to kick Sparkly in the balls for money? : Drewus
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    Cords : Galadriel07
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      the offer was raised to anal rape....i think it was at least being considered. : Borzoi
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        I have the money right here on the desk. Crisp, fresh, notes. : Dave-A
        • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20617930#itemanchor_20617930 : Galadriel07
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  sparkly's should take some photos of helvetica... : Ellissd
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    and the reward for "creepiest suggestion in a subthread" goes to... : Majuju
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      Hey, take that back! Helvetica is cute! : CRasterImage
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        I'm pretty sure he means Sparkly, hell he's creepy to look at even through the internet : locater16
        • I am sure that is what he meant. I just wanted to show him how his words could be turned around on him. : CRasterImage
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      Majuju! : ateam311
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        You win by default without even saying anything! : hashd
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          Holy shit MEATHEAD! Yo sup dawg : ateam311
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            Packing to move..... : hashd
            • That sucks. I hope I don't have to move again for awhile. : ateam311
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  I'm leaving for qcon right now fags : ninjase
  • I'm here homos : ninjase
• i need to go :( : pandastrong
• http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/926/sparklyw.jpg : Marrbe
• freakynipples, check your shackmessages. Sent you my number, text me or call and we'll meet up somewhere : devnullgt
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  ok where are you dude's at? I'm here :( : boomstickah
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    Devnull is sending you his number so we can meet up. : ThomW
    • i feel like i should have just given up eating for a few months so i could come to this. take lots of pi... : Korban
  • I sent you my number, cal or text and we'll meet up : devnullgt
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  Anyone at the Gaylord want to grab some food in about an hour? Say 8-8:30ish. : rudds
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    or now...need food now : devnullgt
    • I gotta finish work before I can eat. :\ : rudds
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    I might! : ninjase
    • Sweet, check your SMs. : rudds
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  Where the shack area of the byoc? : ninjase
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    Back left. Second table from the back : devnullgt
    • Hardly anyone is there. : ThomW
• blocked at work :( : Old_Fart

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  New Content - Added King Of The Hill game mode. - Added custom animations played by the losing team d... : MrLobo
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    holy shit, that was fast : manero
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      - Capturing the flag in a CTF game mode gives the entire capturing team 10 seconds of critboost. ahah... : manero
      • The flags exist on those servers? : Beady
  • Wierd, the update news for today is gone now. Think someone at Valve messed up. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    The Force of Nature * The enemy knockback now only works in close range and behaves more like the Py... : DrWaffles
    • The 10 percent damage boost still makes it usefull ;) : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Ãœbercharged players can no longer be stunned. : mrblarg
  • fucked with my FaN dammit :( : mwasher
  • Wow, some cool tweaks in there. Very interesting about the no double jump is now -25 max health... : SatansFist
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    OMG yes. Sawmill CTF :D : Godhatesfatpeople
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      What? : pyide
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        Sawmill CTF http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/ : Godhatesfatpeople
        • what :( : pyide
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          Oh, now I see it. YESSSSSS : pyide
          • :D : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Glad I got that stun 10 uber enemies achievement while I could! : dmason
  • those are some pretty huge changes to the Sandman : redfive
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    yay engies are no longer forever doomed to having their teleporter entrances destroyed because they're on... : deject
    • This is huge. : pyide
  • This is one fucking awesome update. : dmason
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    These are huge. - Capturing the flag in a CTF game mode gives the entire capturing team 10 seconds of ... : DrFlammable
    • The engineer update is a God sent. Fuck yes! : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Autoreload, pistol autofire, removal of rocket jump blocking, and the FaN changes are the ones I'll appre... : Felraiser
      • Oh, and sv_pure particle consistency. This was a good update after all. : Felraiser
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        oh yeah forget about the auto pistol fire. that's pretty good. i never really found myself needing or wan... : DrFlammable
        • Both of those changes basically remove the benefits of console-command scripting by giving everybody the ... : Felraiser
    • I wonder if that last one applies to friendlies blocking sentry fire : manero
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    Why did valve add more hats before fixing the drop rate or giving us an alternative? At least make Domina... : DrFlammable
    • Im glad the other fixes are in right now before this item shit. I'd rather have these new great fixes tha... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      DrFlammable, you seem to talk about these hats quite a lot! : DrWaffles
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        I FUCKING LOVE HATS. I LOVE EM SO MUCH THAT I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE ONE. : DrFlammable
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          dr flammable have you considered going outside you can get hats from hatworld in the mall : datoo
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            datoo the best part about having a hat is not having the hat, it's showing people online that i have the ... : DrFlammable
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              I'm wearing a hat RIGHT NOW and it feels great : datoo
              • I have a hat! : thecatinthehat
    • yeah I was thinking they could award you a class hat for a certain number of hours played with that class... : datoo
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    Sappers attached to a teleporter automatically place another Sapper on the other end of the teleporter, i : ass-street
    • not really. : manero
    • actually now that i think about it the spy can still easily get both the entrance and exit now if he spam... : DrFlammable
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      hmm if I hammer one teleporter though I assume it fixes both. : ant_hillbilly
      • disregard this, I didnt read it fully. : ant_hillbilly
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      yah i am very much not liking that... why the hell should it destroy the 2nd part when they are not attac... : ssj4megaman
      • because it's a teleporter and it teleported the sapper but why are there two *asplode* : sasoi
    • I'm glad they're doing something about this, not sure if this really fixes the problem, but I hate how ha... : datoo
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    What does this mean? Disguised Spies no longer trigger On-Hit effects (like the Blutsauger's heal). : thecatinthehat
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      My guess is that it just doesn't show +3 on the hud but still does damage and give health. I could be wro... : dmason
      • If so that sucks, it was my prime way to find cloaked spies near by as a medic. : ant_hillbilly
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        The bigger issue is that (IF I understand it correctly), if you stab a spy with the ubersaw you don't get... : reign27
        • Oh, yeah that would suck. : dmason
        • a disguised spy, big difference there. : papaskot
    • I would think it means it no longer triggers the effect at all. If you shot a disguised spy with the Blut... : bigexplosions
    • before you'd get the +3 health if you hit a cloaked spy with a needle from the Blutsauger, you don't anym... : deject
  • Darn, just when i was starting to enjoy stunning ubers! Oh well, some nice changes :D : Snuffles-
  • fuck, can't stun ubered folks anymore. I got good at that :( : Downforce
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    this is stupid: - Cloaked Spies standing in valid backstab positions no longer raise their knife. i ca... : papaskot
    • haha yeah, that was a great call! w00t w00t : Downforce
  • - Engineers wrenching a teleporter will repair the other end as well, and remove Sappers from both if the... : locater16
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  That was unexpectedly fast! I thought they were going to hold out another day or two. : DrWaffles
  • Something weird is going on because the server update is corrupted. : MrLobo
• wow some crazy changes being made. the TP changes are pretty cool. : SolveChrist
• Big changes to sandman, huh? No more stunning ubers, but you get double jump back. : crummynz
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  Updating Dallas. : RyDogg1
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    Dallas updated, you should be able to vote the new maps. : RyDogg1
    • jumping in. : ant_hillbilly
    • And valve has broken my admin plugs, so that means no voting. : RyDogg1
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  The game claims it will only take four more seconds to patch... bullshit. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Valve seconds. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Hehehhee, yeah exactly! : Maddog_Delphi97
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        Dammit, I just tried Dallas and WhoVille... they both need to be updated. : Maddog_Delphi97
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          Host_Error: Server is enforcing file consistency for particles\water_dx80.pcf : Maddog_Delphi97
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            Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:33 PM - Maddog_Delphi97: Host_Error: Server is enforcing file consistency fo... : Maddog_Delphi97
            • 6:39 PM - RyDogg: okay 6:39 PM - RyDogg: go 6:39 PM - Maddog_Delphi97: thanks! 6:39 PM - RyDogg: you... : Maddog_Delphi97
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozSSseCh3U : DrFlammable
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  needs less "steam servers are too busy to handle your request" bullshit : kill9
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    cool i can't even launch TF2, awesome : kill9
    • Keep trying : Maddog_Delphi97
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  tf2.shackbattles.com http://shackpasswords.herokugarden.com/Requests/?server=tf23 LET'S PLAY : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Server is full now! :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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      ... and I got kicked! OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME OVERTIME BITCHES! RECOGNIZ... : gnomish
      • lol, this game has it's own mic spam! :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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  ok Drflammable. Now is the time for KOTH Awesomeball. : SolveChrist
  • lol : Maddog_Delphi97

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  Well, if you random it there's always the possibility they get somebody they're super fucking awesome wit... : Zek
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    I prefer that over getting completely stomped and the DOTA pros picking your exact counter. I think at t... : multisync
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      Well really you're in trouble one way or the other if you don't play with balanced teams. It is lame that... : Zek
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        That's kinda the whole point, isn't it? : c0bra
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          it is the whole point. i don't get why people think the other team shouldn't be able to see your picks. i... : Xanthos
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            I mean in regular games, it's stupid that you have an incentive to wait until the last 2 seconds before p... : Zek
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              meh. The games are already ~45 minutes long. What's another 1:30? : c0bra
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                What's the point? It's a stupid feature, it should just be hidden so people can pick when they're ready. : Zek
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                  Its not really stupid, its strategy. You're supposed to choose heroes that go well with your team as well... : Xanthos
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                    It's not strategy when the countering can be prevented simply by waiting around for a minute first. Then ... : Zek
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                      Strategy is counter-choosing a hero. To be frank, waiting until the last second to choose a hero is even ... : Xanthos
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                        There's no way to implement it that doesn't encourage waiting. That's why the counter-picking should be s... : Zek
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                          DOTA didn't encourage waiting since you could technically wait a long ass time, but you were penalized fo... : Xanthos
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                            Uh, his point is that the best strategy in SD is to always wait until the last second so that you cannot ... : Jimb0v2
                            • Except it's not possible as there's no hero duplication, as explained below. : c0bra
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                              Actually, the discussion wasn't about SD it was about normal pick games. Your post doesn't apply. : Xanthos
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                                Yeah, i see now that its normal games, but shouldn't the same thought process apply for normal games. I ... : Jimb0v2
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                                  I don't wait for the last possible moment in normal games because i don't give THAT much of a shit where ... : Xanthos
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                                    I'm a newb, so I defer to you. I was under the impression that counter-picking was very important and ... : Jimb0v2
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                                      If you wait that long you fuck yourself because in a "competitive" normal mode game (really no such thing... : Xanthos
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                                        Those guys are so key to winning big team battles. It's crazy. Who from DOTA is missing to help out lik... : kgargs
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                                          Magnus Puck Silencer Spectre maybe Bane (Atropos) Obsidian Lich Queen of Pain Tidehunter probably... : Xanthos
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                                            Tidehunter's ult was so cool and deadly! Man I don't even remember what Magnus did... oh that's right.. ... : kgargs
                                            • Magnus was totally badass. Hope they bring him over, he was so fucking buff. : kainen1
                                            • Queen of pain played properly is incredibly powerful, its like a tinker played properly. Roaming nuking g... : Xanthos
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                  The problem is, if you're playing with non-repeat heroes, you have to be told which heroes are already ta... : shpen
                  • a repeat heroes team of like 5 anything would be so awesome. 5 thunderbringers could just sit at the f... : multisync
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                    They could just tell you when try to choose a hero that he's taken. Or allow duplicate heroes between tea... : Zek
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                      Zek how long have you been playing? How much team play have you done (i.e. your 5 vs others)? RD is pro... : kgargs
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                        Like I said I'm not talking about RD. : Zek
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                          You're right.. I just reread your thread... my bad. So what you're saying is you shouldn't be able to se... : kgargs
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                            The whole point is that you CANT counter in SD right now. Competent people wait until the last second... : Jimb0v2
                            • Yeah I agree with that. Pretty stupid. : kgargs
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                      That would be kind of stupid. If you try to coordinate your choice with someone else and you don't get th... : Xanthos
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                        McP, what about this solution: For every pick it reduces the amount of time remaining for the other te... : sesmaster
                        • you don't really need to determine a solution to the problem. If people are playing at a high level they'... : Xanthos
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  Kongor solo is fixed. Magmus's armor and base damage are fixed, nothing else on him needs balance. Sta... : Xanthos
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    I want Pitlord :< : c0bra
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      pretty sure once they port over Ursa and Phantom Assassin that I could care less about any other heroes. : Xanthos
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        oh fuck techies. I NEED MY TECHIES! : Xanthos
        • bleh. meepo would be interesting to have, though. : c0bra
      • We need ursa dog so hard : kgargs
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        Was PA the guy that set the traps? I hated that dude. Way too hard to play! I'm pretty excited abo... : kgargs
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          Phantom Assassin = Mortred. You were thinking Lanaya, or Templar Assassin. PA = 4x crit winnar. : Xanthos
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            Ohhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhh PA was badass. She'd turn invis the higher level she got? Or just be a little... : kgargs
            • yeah you'd level her dodge and she'd turn transparent essentially. Just her shadow. : Xanthos
      • Would be nice to vary it up by heroes like Terrorblade, Furion, or Tinker. : kainen1
  • MAnnnnnn I wish they made it so u cant use steam on kongor but u can on other neutral creeps :( julgle fa... : mrseldowski
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  I'd like it if random draft was more random, and the order of who gets to pick gets randomized. The fact ... : re-verse
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    It *can* be nice, so your more experienced players can choose last. : c0bra
    • yea I had no idea it worked this way until Lexicon did just that yesterday. : multisync
• HAMMERTIME! I raped a noobish team with my hammerstorm yesterday. His ulti swing animation+sound is defin... : ElPopo
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  RD is my fav way to play now. I hate SD so hard that I'd rather play an AP game over that. AR can be fu... : kgargs
  • you're growing up! awwww. : Xanthos
  • Yeah I pretty much hate SD too. : re-verse
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    i dont mind rd but you should get full money if you random imo. : Iwannaacura
    • How many people are on the board? How many heroes does the last pick have? You'd have to scale the mone... : kgargs
  • mine too, but RD was always what I wanted. I like AR too now : kainen1
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    Why do you hate SD? Luck of the draw scenarios? : Head Rush
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      sd is too much like AR without the extra money. : Xanthos
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        It doesn'ts eem that bad when you factor in swapping with your teammates... thats 15 heroes to pick from. : Jimb0v2
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          It's not really a choice out of 15 heroes. It's a 5x3 where you choose 1 out of the 3 over 5 lines. So ... : kgargs
          • Thats true. It still feels a lot better than AR for me personally, but I see your point. : Jimb0v2
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  What's the proper way to use Defilers ultimate? I notice people who have it on all the time. I can't te... : multisync
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    The best application is in a teamfight or a base push. Essentially the spirits roam and attack anything i... : Xanthos
    • but how long are they out and about - the tooltip doesn't say. : multisync
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      I thought the spirits only attacked what Defiler is currently attacking? : c_man_tmt
      • Not necessarily. : Xanthos
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  I went something like 15-4 with swiftblade last night. The earlier times that I tried him I didn't like h... : re-verse
  • yea late game we had no chance against you :( : multisync
  • yea that was fun, my first time with Magmus and by end game I started to get it! : rak
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  I've been trying Arachna but am having troubles actually getting the killing attack with her, especially ... : Nighteyes
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    Wait until later in the game when you have more attack speed and damage, or get flayer. : Xanthos
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      Kinda hard to get them when Im not getting the kills to fund all this stuff :P : Nighteyes
      • She's a lategame hero. If you need money early you just have to figure out the best way to farm with her.... : Xanthos
• I'm really enjoying the madman for longer builds. Once I get his regular attack speed to two per second ... : Matto357
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  Man am I glad the magnus fixes went live last night, it was really starting to ruin what should have been... : dewdman
  • To be honest, I was really mad when Kongor died. I was just giving him a relaxing steam bath and next th... : kgargs
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    Ok you must've been in our game last night, but I don't know what HoNer this is. : MercFox1
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      Dudeman : dewdman
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        Oh duh. >_< : MercFox1
        • :P : dewdman
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  multisync:you gotta try all heroes so you can play random everytime for more money$$$ : Iwannaacura
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    I disagree.. I think he should find someone and try to play them repeatedly. Once you *master* a hero yo... : kgargs
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      both are true. You need to know the nuances but at the same time there is a lot to learn on each hero abo... : Xanthos
      • i hope we get little logos/avatars for random and stuff like that : Iwannaacura
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        True.. half the battle is knowing what the enemy hero can do as well. I didn't even realize that you cou... : kgargs
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          yeah electrician is pretty much the fucking shit. excellent counter to hammerstorm, bloodhunter, jereziah... : Xanthos
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            wow you can dispell hammerstorm's pump me up thing? That's crazy : kgargs
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              medusa could do that in dota. apparently someone doesn't pay much attention. hell you can use nullfire to... : Xanthos
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                no way i would try to purge stuff on friendly never worked : Iwannaacura
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                  not really sure what you said, but i don't generally purge friendly targets too often. with electrician n... : Xanthos
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                    ok if someone had a dot like warlock, or lucifer ult you couldnt purge those im pretty sure : Iwannaacura
                    • nah purge wasn't as effective on friendly targets in dota. however electrician's ult appears to be a perf... : Xanthos
          • electrician is awesome, you just need to be on a team that knows how to jump in and take action with you ... : kainen1
        • yea alot of people think its useless purge like medusa had which didnt have the same properties of purge ... : Iwannaacura
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  Dumb question: has anyone ever done something like drop 3 health tubes on a hero for regen? I know that i... : c0bra
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    For devourer its not a terrible idea, but generally if you can't get enough money you need to change your... : Xanthos
    • Sometimes your team just gets rolled and you have to find a way to spend it or lose it :\ : c0bra
  • The thing about regen is that even if you stack it to hell, fights don't often last long enough for it to... : Zek
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    no because if you did that you probably could of afforded a shaman headdress 2 ring regen = 375x2 magic ... : Iwannaacura
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      I know, this is just an extreme hypothetical. : c0bra
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        generally speaking i would avoid doing this. If you have to, make it something cheap so when you have to ... : Xanthos
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          My cousin plays noob games and sometimes in long ones he'll get bored and fill up his inventory with sust... : crummynz
          • if you're going to go silly, stack splash. I've played games in DOTA as dragon knight where my attack did... : Xanthos
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      we should have a tard-off : multisync
      • I bet joquers would win. : MercFox1
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  Did you unban lakren yet. : Chepito.
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    yes : multisync
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      from the shack? if so it's high time, he's served enough time banned as is. I miss his superior posts. : kainen1
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        he hasn't posted since May 11. 3 months is a while. : Xanthos
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          He said he's not posting until you fight him 1v1 in real life. : kgargs
          • I'll meet his little bald ass in your mud pit. : Xanthos
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        he's not.. he just checked :( FREE JON TUCCILLO : kgargs
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          HA HA JUST KIDDING : multisync
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            You just got banned from the shack channel : kgargs
            • *record scratch* : kpxkrnjc
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  What do you guys think of this guide? Especially section 1.7? http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showt... : zebosausamite
  • its pretty mediocre. He compiles most of the standard information into one place which is nice, but he ha... : Xanthos
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  Fal is a rune whore! : zuff
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      • i love getting 2 runes in a row like double damage and haste = death usually : Iwannaacura
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  I can't get enough of this game. I'm glad I started playing with Shackers, the games are way more equal, ... : jay-ay
  • Yah they were both good games. Pretty even, till end-game. Then we got steamrolled by Fal playing MQ or T... : zuff
• Stop speaking moon language! Crazy HoN/Dota speak. : Crimsonbeak

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  nice... I hope they also put up a Direct D/L. Video cam captures always kinda suck : Shadowdane
  • this is true. : ass-street
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  For those of us not at QuakeCon, IGN will stream the conference here: http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/101... : Zips
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    You, sir, are a gentleman. : LoioshDwaggie
    • My bad: http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1011759p1.html Silly IGN put up two different news pieces on th... : Zips
  • Ustream direct linkage: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream : mn3m0n1c
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  20 minutes people! : locater16
  • Spend 7 of them watching the short film that District 9 is based on .. http://video.google.com/videoplay? : cause&effect
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  Streamy stream: http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1011759p1.html : locater16
  • thanks : humbleone
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    Is this working for anyone? I just get a blank image... : uncleanmonkey
    • only getting blank screen : xxx2xxx
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      It's working -> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quakecon-2009-live-stream : LoioshDwaggie
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        Only getting a blank screen in IE, firefox and chrome :-/ : uncleanmonkey
        • Tried ctrl+F5 in Firefox? Also, make sure you have the latest flash. : LoioshDwaggie
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          Oh are these fuckers denying non-US people? If they are they could at least let you fucking know that the... : uncleanmonkey
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            nah, working for me.. maybe just keep refreshing or something : re4ctor
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              Yeah suddenly started working. Weird. : uncleanmonkey
              • heh, same for me : humbleone
          • I hope its not that /o\ : humbleone
        • might be restricted to usa ? : xxx2xxx
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      Yea same, but I see the Viewers increasing. Probably haven't started yet : humbleone
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        It has though, Kotaku's live blogging is narrating it. : uncleanmonkey
        • Yea ok I can see people chatting in the other link now. No feed for me (FF) :( : humbleone
      • it's working. he's been talking for a few minutes about volunteers and sponsors and bethesda. : pyide
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      same here : Hoax
      • just in time for wolf rpg... : Hoax
• I am in the line at the press conference, the doors havnt opened : askedrelic
• Thanks for the stream links. : Lagiv
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  carmarks keynote afterwards too! : re4ctor
  • jesus lol... carmacks : re4ctor
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  Oh I dislike waiting for things to start. : LoioshDwaggie
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    What is the saddest thing, Lie Bot? : manero
    • Worst song, played on ugliest guitar? No wait... : chrisschutz
• They're not even letting us into the hall yet. Sigh : loboca
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  spoiler it shows a flyover of a town and some mutants : jvox
  • dune buggies going fast??? : mwasher
• Here we go! (Goofy harmonica music ahoy) : mn3m0n1c
• stream started to show a logo and music : xxx2xxx
• I was expecting Dragonforce to be playing for some reason : ( Stupid Texas : locater16
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  Holy shit this music is awesome ... I'm going to go make a sandwich. : Toth21
  • grab me a coke while you're there! : mn3m0n1c
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  I've been waiting in lines all day. I'll be at the bar. : freakynipples69
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    I would join you at the bar freakynipples. :( : mwasher
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      Come on down, at Texan Station, in the longue. By the far right end of bar. Bright teal shirt. : freakynipples69
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        saturday :( : mwasher
        • You got it friend. First round on me. : freakynipples69
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      Only there is a line to get there? : humbleone
      • To get in yeah, it's long. My feet hurt way too much to wait in a line again. : freakynipples69
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  bluegrass breakbeat what the hell : GloriousCow
  • Texas : LoioshDwaggie
• Lol, it's not starting for another 15 minutes? Ok then : locater16
• The music sounds like someone is making a farting sound with their mouth. : LoioshDwaggie
• I'm listening to the music and watching this gif: http://www.mysuboo.com/profile/sulei/avatar/cat-kitt... : homeboyJim
• bout time : peter
• Awwww yeah! : Kentor
• Hey it's Max Payne in a fantasy Nazi world : foo
• hmm doom resurrection iphone is $2.99 till sunday. gonna have to pick that up now : re4ctor
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  http://www.giantbomb.com/rage-the-quakecon-09-trailer/17-1173/ : R0wz
  • OH YES : ErneX
  • thanks, I'll have to watch this a few times now : humbleone
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    lol more crawly spider guns : manero
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      I loved that little guy in Doom 3, glad he's coming back in a slightly different form. : jet-poop
      • it was ok, but sort of gimmicky : manero
  • WTF .. Doom 2 Arachnotron? : Wyvern
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  are they going to show Doom 4? : ErneX
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    omg yes, now! : ErneX
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      oh shi, no :( : ErneX
      • :_( : atom519
  • nope : humbleone
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  http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59980 : Nick Breckon
  • \o/ downloading now : re4ctor
  • Looks so awesome. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
  • Fucking crazy. I want it NAOOOOW : razlebol
• tim dropped some weight : Hoax
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  Fallout 3? : LoioshDwaggie
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    + hl2 : re4ctor
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      Hahaha, the turrents :) : LoioshDwaggie
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        what is a turrent? : datoo
        • turret : LoioshDwaggie
  • If only Fallout 3 used a solid engine like this, or anything that wasn't Gambryo :( : pyide
  • NERD RAGE : Modulus
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    Because Fallout 3 was the first post-apocalyptic game ever! : Mecha Tofu Pirate
    • Admit, you smiled when they said 'mutants.' : LoioshDwaggie
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    Its oblivion with dune buggies : GloriousCow
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      Motorstorm.. with guns! : razlebol
      • -- IGN.COM : LoioshDwaggie
  • Lucas Simms is now white D: : Dave-A
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  Just saw it! Cool stuff! : askedrelic
  • Yep. Was badass : devnullgt
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    I agree, Ed. Can't wait to play it. : Dave-A
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      ed? I thought it was asked relic or aske drelic or some crap : valael
      • His name is Ed Relic, he has an advice column! : Dave-A
• Yep, http://aftertheimpact.com/ looks awesome : two50six
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  Lol, Carmack is such a nerd : locater16
  • Love him, he's awesome, nerdy, awesome. Give him a crowbar and we're safe. : LoioshDwaggie
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    http://www.shackpics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_fj8ekb163odw0jzacufj.jpg Carmack talk! : askedrelic
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      wow light attendance for a carmack talk :( : emcea
      • I think the 3,400 of us online make that not so bad :) : LoioshDwaggie
      • Oh those empty seats in front of me are reserved or something, but no one showed up to sit in them.... Th... : askedrelic
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  Trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/quakecon-trailer-rage/54146 : smacknca
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    it's annoying when you go to watch a video online that has an advertisement video before it, and you have... : homeboyJim
    • weird ive never realized they had ads. abp wins again :) : smacknca
• Wow wow wow : Serpico74
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  Todd is annoying me. : shirif
  • Though that's just the impression I get from this presentation, so I dunno : shirif
  • he's gonna kick your ass. : pyide
  • nm : shirif
• Looks alright : Godhatesfatpeople
• hmm... i don't know about this : mwasher
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  Carmack's talks are always interesting... so honest. : Kentor
  • Unintentional dig at the Bionic Commando team. : LoioshDwaggie
  • incredibly honest. good stuff. : pyide
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    And almost dead on the mark, it's kinda crazy to see someone so high profile hit the publisher/dev relati... : dravalen
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      What exactly is he talking about? : Chod
      • he's rambling about rage and then goes back to another thing and then back to id being larger now : ErneX
      • Publisher twisting the arms of devs and the like. It's pretty much part of the reason why I left the indu... : dravalen
      • He started talking about the merger and why it's good for id. He covered polishing issues with console co... : LoioshDwaggie
  • i hope as long as he makes games he never stops giving them : Unleashed
• This makes me want Duke Nukem Forever more. :/ : Link.
• RAGE looks nice, but I can't believe they are going to make us wait another year to see Doom. : grendel
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  One of you shackers there need to scream out LAMP really loud so I can hear it over the live stream. : ant_hillbilly
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    Lol that would be epic. But I'll pass. : devnullgt
    • wait until the end of the speech. : ant_hillbilly
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  the rage trailer looked good but... the vehicle stuff... I dunno... could've just been a separate game. ... : moe6
  • I'm actually really looking forward to it if they do it with a good physics system. I remember how terrib... : LoioshDwaggie
  • Have you seen The Road Warrior? : Haku-Jin
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    I like it, looks really cool. If I get it for PC I hope I can switch between mouse+keyboard for FPS stuff... : Serpico74
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      it works for GTA4 iirc, so I don't see why it wouldn't. : moe6
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        Is it seamless or do you have to pause and go to a menu to change the controller being used? I've never d... : Serpico74
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          they work concurrently iirc. : moe6
          • Cool, thanks! : Serpico74
• Welp, I'm ready to play. : Clay
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  I require a new Hexen/Heretic on id tech 5 : ErneX
  • That's Raven though. : razlebol
  • seconded : spectr3
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  Not Hating, but I think someone needs to remind id Gameplay > Graphics : pun][sher
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    You did listen to the 20 minutes he spent covering how important gameplay adjustment is, right? : LoioshDwaggie
    • Yeah I guess, but it was all rather general. We'll see though. : Toth21
    • nope, saw the trailer on front page. : pun][sher
  • are you even watching? : eeeealmo
  • not hating, but I think somebody should remind pun][sher that you can tell gamesplay from a couple minute... : Clay
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  The comments on the livestream are pretty hilarious. Sad. But hilarious. : melkore
  • yeah "who is John Carmack?" it's like youtube comments but LIVE : ErneX
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  Carmack, you are amazing but shut up and show me more gameplay footage! : lightly inclined
  • You belong on the front page. : LoioshDwaggie
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    I could listen to him talk tech all day. : melkore
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      Me too, it's all late (or incredibly early) here in GUam and I'm just cranky. ;[ : lightly inclined
      • See, can't even type properly. : lightly inclined
    • ^^^ hes a fucking genius : eeeealmo
    • Not much tech yet :-( He's diluting it too much. I want 20 minutes rants on the sample patterns for AA... : uncleanmonkey
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  Doom 4 is going to look sick, that team preferred going for 30fps to pump the art more, bummer about wait... : ErneX
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    60fps would have been better for a Doom game imo :( It should be about FAST gameplay. Not that it can'... : razlebol
    • 60fps with those graphics and *lots* of monsters (because Doom should have lots of monsters) would take a... : Vincent Grayson
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      Last year they talked about how Doom 4 was more like the originals in terms of the number of monsters and... : Serpico74
      • I think you've got those fps's around the wrong way :) : thecray
      • Yeah. I just hope they don't change their mind and focus on making it a very fast and arcade like shooter... : razlebol
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  man, I know I've heard him speak before, but god damn hes smart and makes such well thought out remarks. ... : smacknca
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    It never seems like he writes anything to me. I guess he picks a few topics he wants to talk about and th... : pyide
    • yeah he is def doing that, he has rambled from a topic to topic and sometimes going back and repeating st... : ErneX
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  Holy crap @ Quake Live. : LoioshDwaggie
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    yeah, that Oracle rant was good! I wonder what they are using now : ErneX
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      Plus calling out the back-end software company releasing bad code and getting closed. Wow. : LoioshDwaggie
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        what happened? : Clay
        • He didn't cover it well, but id didn't want to go through all the back-end work to make a system like Qua... : LoioshDwaggie
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    when does it come out for OSX :( : moonbreaker
    • I believe next Tuesday was mentioned before Carmack went on. Same with Linux. : Greymatter42
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  Does anybody know if RAGE is OpenGL? Or have they moved to DirectX or something else? : pyros
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    i think it is on Mac, too, so i'd say OGL : eeeealmo
    • Its also on the 360 (DX only, yeah?), so I'd guess its both. : Serpico74
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    I assume that being the 360 the main platform it's clearly DirectX, but they said the Mac version will ap... : ErneX
    • I'm hoping it's DirectX because for hot stereoscopic action. Pissed off that the last Chronicles of Riddi... : pyros
    • OpenGL on PC last they said anything. : uncleanmonkey
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    id is all about OpenGL, so I'd say it's probably built on that. : deject
    • They'd have to support DX and OGL. : Fred Garvin
  • John Carmack mentioned in his keynote at QuakeCon 2007 that the id Tech 5 engine will be OpenGL- and Dire : razlebol
• GIVE IT TO ME! I'll just do it. : LoioshDwaggie
• I had assumed Doom 4 was already past the Vertical Slice stage : byorn
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  he's nuking Firemint (makers of Flight Control for iPhone) now, lol @ doing the Wolf3D on software render... : ErneX
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20657404#itemanchor_20657404 : LoioshDwaggie
  • ...and then not wanting to code the hardware acceleration because it was "over budget" : ErneX
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  wtf doom classic is done and they are sitting on it :( : maulla
  • i know :( i want that shit so badly : eeeealmo
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    wait, what? like, the completed doom 3 mod, or... what are we talking about? : sevogajre
    • IPhone game. Business people want to let it sit to release the games on a schedule. : askedrelic
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  you heard it hear first folks, carmack says the PS3 sucks! : maulla
  • He's been saying it sucks for a while : locater16
  • he tries to say something nice about the PS3, and then you see his expressions and you get what he's real... : ErneX
  • What did he say? The streaming hiccuped here :( : Nitrium
  • Just said ps3 is awesome! : askedrelic
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  he's repeating himself : peter
  • ieam : oHnOES
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  This is the part I've been most looking forward to, parallelism discussion / threading in their engine. : LoioshDwaggie
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    LoL @ the gamepad comments re latency / precision. : LoioshDwaggie
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      Sick burn on halo players : devnullgt
      • Pretty good comments there. I have to leave to get my guild going tonight/. Damn I want to watch the rest... : LoioshDwaggie
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    Oh snap, carmack says pc pro-gamers are better than gamepad pro-gamers! : askedrelic
    • Is that really an 'oh snap' moment? I think it's pretty obvious if you somehow put the best Console pro g... : thecray
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      Is the debate really about whether a mouse + kb is going to be better than a controller? I have no pro... : Drewus
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        See, it's like saying cars are better than motorbikes. Each has it's own advantages/disadvantages, but th... : Drewus
        • I wonder if carmack is making the backhands at the control for the sole reason of calming the angry inter... : kingdepork
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          But that isn't the case. If you made a FPS game that could use the best PC controls vs the best console c... : aggressor
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            I didn't even hear his statement, I was just commenting on the typical "omg controllers suck for FPS!" de... : Drewus
            • Sorry, but the controller drives me crazy. I'd much rather use a mouse. Everyone's different. While yo... : CrustaR
        • i think it's more 'cars in their penultimate form will beat any bike on objective performance metrics.' ... : xsoulbrothax
  • The questions are actually good. His QA sessions could be ruined by stupid questions. : zehh
• Yea I have no idea WTF carmack is getting on about with this technical lighting shit. : devnullgt
• I could watch him talk all day. : fathertime
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  Is this being recorded? I can't watch it right now and it's killing me. lol. : thecray
  • same here! I'm sure it'll be posted somewhere later tonight : hax3d
  • I'm sure they never thought of recording the live stream. : freshyk
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  As a programmer I am definitely concerned about lock contention/latency when it comes down to this massiv... : Yanks
  • I look forward to seeing the different approaches people are going to use. The SIGGRAPH papers detaili... : Danny5225
• Ohnoes, he just dissed gamepads!!1 heh, imprecise : mn3m0n1c
• Now he went off mentioning that real developers ship! Tsk tsk DNF. : askedrelic
• Holy mother of mancubi, he's been going on like this for over two hours! o_O : mn3m0n1c
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  He's still talking?! O_o : razlebol
  • Q&A now. He'll probably end it soon. : pyide
  • I've been to the DMV, Best Buy, and the Bank. He is still talking. I love this guy. : Greymatter42
• He sounds like Professor Frink. : ant_hillbilly
• Is anyone there? Ask him about Natal! : uncleanmonkey
• Oh yes please! Commander Keen. : razlebol
• haha on his Porsche 911 'well, it's pleasant' comment 1000whp is fucking nuts. : aggressor
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  man how many field is that guy an expert on? He's going on endlessly about cars now : mnok
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    if you ask his wife, he is an expert on getting it on : spiderfill
    • PICS+DIVX : razlebol
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    There is so much brain power with this guy. He understands everything he is passionate about to the fines... : pancake humper
    • indeed, he's fucking awesome : Nitrium
• I want him to keep talking :( : aggressor
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  "I hope Nvidia didn't pay a lot for them", wow he went out swinging. : Toth21
  • haha yeah : Nitrium
  • That was great. : pyide
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    who was he talking about ? : qwpeoriu
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      Phsyx. Someone asked a question about software and hardware physics and the add-on cards. He said he thou... : pyide
      • Ahh okay, thanks. I figured he was referring to that. : qwpeoriu
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  anywhere to get the archived version of this? : filthysock
  • I'm sure IGN will have it up soon or there will be 7000 versions on YouTube. Shacknews will probably also... : pancake humper
• I hope his keynote is hosted on fileshack. I missed the first half and woudl love to catch all of it. : melkore

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• Yeah i really wanted to get into SMG, but couldn't for pretty much the same reasons... : choppp
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  over the past few years i've just gotten more and more competitive and i care even more about being 1337.... : JINKY
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    oh you were saying mario galaxy is a hard game. what : JINKY
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      It's not even that hard. I just don't care about beating it. If I die twice in a row, my inclination is... : filtersweep
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        I don't think you have to get every star. Just skip it or come back to it later if it's a level that's an... : nudel
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          You don't have to get 1/2 the stars to beet the game. : one random winner
          • but by finishing the game minus half the stars, the game puts a feeling of incomplete in your head. sure... : Sparticuse
• i am like that now. i care very little about a serious challenge. i want something appropriate to my sk... : EvilDolemite
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  ahah you're getting old : zakk
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    hella old : filtersweep
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      I just realized that first paragraph is probably the shmup guy equivilent of eating a handful of rat pois... : filtersweep
      • you were pretty much dead to me anyways, so whatever : zakk
  • It's true :( : yosemiteclimber
• mario galaxy is like what you're describing. you're complimenting it, right? : feek
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  When did you get a wii? Why didn't you pony up the extra $50 for a 360? : sigpro
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    It was a birthday present for the wife. I had nothing to do with the decision. :( : filtersweep
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      Why haven't they gotten you a 360 for your birthday? If I were you I'd be kind of upset about that. : sigpro
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        because most 360 games fall under the non-powergaming category, right? : brainchild420
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          Stay out of my bitching about him not having a 360 yet thread. It's something Degenerate and I do everyti... : sigpro
          • oh i'm sorry, i thought this was a public forum. keep your panties on. : brainchild420
        • if only there was some sort of 'difficulty setting' or something : derelict515
  • For the first one.. haha! : RogerDandy
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  You don't have to do any of the hardest stuff to beat SMG. Just go do something else. : Zek
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    But I know it's there! I want to be king! I can't be king if there are un-mastered chunks of game float... : filtersweep
    • You can't afford to be OCD when you suck so bad at video games. : Zek
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      so your saying you want to be the best at everything, completely unlock all of a games challenges, so you... : Jackass1233
      • If he's as old as I think he is, I think I know why he said what he said. : one random winner
      • That's a lot of words you're trying to put in my mouth! : filtersweep
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        If a man in his 30s is bragging about his game skills I would go to Portland and punch filtersweep in his... : Rauol Duke
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          So you are saying if I grag about my gaming skills you will punch filtersweep in the ball? : sigpro
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            Sigpro, why are you always gragging, man? : shwortdogg
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              because I want rauol to punch filtersweep in his ball. : sigpro
              • come get some shitbirds I wear a cup and mouthpiece 24 hours a day : filtersweep
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      Dude, if you want to finish everything then you have to be ready to get your ass kicked. SMG can easily b : Serpico74
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        I don't want to finish, I want to be king! I actually don't mind playing games where I know, if I eat ... : filtersweep
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          If you want to be king then be ready to play through some tough platforming levels. They can't just give ... : Serpico74
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            Of course they can. They just choose not to. And that's fine! It's just not what I'm looking for in a ... : filtersweep
            • What you want is a crown fit for a jester. : aldraek
• yah I still haven't beaten that game as the last few levels are annoying to the point where you want to t... : Shadowdane
• Some games I care about, but other games I want to win. Like DoW2 I'm starting to be super competitive ev... : PointlesS76
• we are getting old and impatient. if i don't care about a game I play through it on easy just to see the... : handofthrawn
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  SMG was an easy game. What you're referring to is SMG. : Link.
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    You really think SMG is an immersive game? It's a great game for sure, but it feels more like a toy/puzz... : filtersweep
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      No, I mean the game is easy. I didn't like SMG that much. : Link.
      • Getting 121 gold stars is quite hard, surely. But getting to the end cutscene is pretty easy yes. : jcupitt
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      it's not meant to be this fully realized world or anything, each level is supposed to be it's own thing w... : Mr.SEX
      • Don't take any of this as criticism of the game itself. It's incredibly well-made and I can plainly see ... : filtersweep
      • oh but otherwise i tend to agree with you, at least when it comes to certain types of games. In rpgs and... : Mr.SEX
  • I had little trouble going through that game to the end of the story and the challenges to unlock everyth... : melkore
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  I sort of felt this way until Wipeout HD. Now it's my mission to get the fastest speed laps in phantom on... : ieGod
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    Haha, yes. With everything else I'm happy to be mediocre and I rarely repeat anything for a better score,... : Arceihn
    • Add me to your friends list: ieGod : ieGod
• I didn't like SMG because I went in with certain expectations. I basically wanted Super Mario 64 2, with ... : Arceihn
• That's why I couldn't finish Braid--so much of it is based off of having perfect timing that I just got b... : mysled
• I'm the exact opposite. I couldn't care less about singleplayer games. Give me a dynamic experience that ... : boomstickah
• I agree with every part of this post. I'm exactly the same. I hardly ever play multi other than with a fe... : Rauol Duke
• I like improving myself in Mirror's Edge -- it's one of those games where mastering the game takes a lot ... : Postal
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  I agree about the challenges. I have no interest in the good story part, I like big open sandboxes where ... : Dave-A
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    Me too, my favorite games are big open games and games with lots of unlockable stuff. : Rauol Duke
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      let's get married over XBL and live together virtually in Pacific City in Crackdown! : Dave-A
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        Can we do the marriage in marvel alliance 2 instead? : Rauol Duke
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          perhaps Fat Princess? There's stupid hats, cake, catapulting across the map for a honeymoon.... : Dave-A
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            I don't have a ps3 mic. :/ : Rauol Duke
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              No one does, me included! That's what XBL party chat is for - playing PS3 multiplayer games : Dave-A
              • haaha I never thought of that : .Jayson
              • That's genius. : ieGod
              • Hey everyone listen to this. : ieGod
              • haha, inf this : SiW.
              • I did this for fat princess last weekend : nevlos
  • This is why I loved Mount and Blade! : mysled
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  Wow... I consider the need to repeat challenges like those in a Mario game the pinnacle of gaming. I don... : Grumbeld
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    I'm pretty sure that 'repeat' should have been 'complete' : Grumbeld
    • Ha ha, I certainly hope so. Personally I think the need to "repeat" challenges like that suck. If I... : hawke
• I got half way through the game and stopped playing it. :( : Koral06
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  Just watch a movie and occasionally push a button on a controller, and stop ruining games for those of us... : NexusOne
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    yeah filtersweep stop ruining games for us who actually like games, us gamers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Mr.SEX
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      Mr.SEX you ruined games for me long ago, it's too late : Dave-A
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        me ----> http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/blog/BLOGgifs/1054B-CorporatePigCo600.gif : Mr.SEX
        • you look pretty serious about games! : filtersweep
  • Us older gamers are the future! We've got the income and the gaming upbringing to be the big demographic.... : Rauol Duke
  • ok brb : filtersweep
  • lol : Mansmells
• a million times fucking this. : xxiv
• TBH the ray surfing was pretty annoying, but the rest of the game owned. : Slowtreme
• I feel the same way; sort of. I wouldn't like it if every games normal setting was like CoD's veteran... : Frozen Pixel
• I think SMG is the best Mario game ever made. I'm sure plenty of people disagree, but it really is an ama... : jingletard
• I'm with you, brah. : Rotten Deadite
• I've got to agree, though there's still certainly a place for skill-based games in my life. : Rich McNinch
• I think I kind of agree with you, and I think developers have caught on which is what frustrates a lot of... : DinK
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  yeah SMG fuckin sucks. new super mario bros is probably the only mario centric game worth playing in the... : dantastic
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    First of all, you're wrong. And they are making a second NSMB for the wii. : Nali4Freedom
    • ^This : one random winner
    • I'd rather have a sequel on the DS, but I don't have a Wii. : pyide
    • More like LittleBigMario, amirite? : Vincent Grayson
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    What are you fucking kidding me? NSMB was pretty damn generic and beyond easy. It was a huge step back fr... : avatar_58
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      I feel like even beyond that, it's a cross between SMB1 and 3. It lacks the depth and improved control of... : heartsauce
      • They intentionally took the controls back to SMB1. I think it played fine, but it was just way too easy. : Zek
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      NSMB wasn't as good as SMB3 : veras
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        Nor is it as good as SMW or SMW2: Yoshi's Island. Its fun but too easy and forgettable : Serpico74
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          Yup, agreed - and I think with the party-game intent of the new one the actual platforming will be worse,... : veras
          • I played it at E3. Its a horrible place to play games anyway so I don't feel right judging it just based ... : Serpico74
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        I would have agreed with you when it came out, but I'm replaying it for a third time now and after recent... : pyide
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          The thing SMG did so well was making it not feel like a chore to be a completionist. Mario 64 seemed like... : Serpico74
          • I still haven't played Galaxy, but when I enjoy the basic game & gameplay as I do with NSMB, absolutely n... : pyide
  • lol : pancake humper
  • I'm kinda confused how you got 'smg fucking sucks' out of filtersweep's post. It pretty much exemplifi... : slax0r
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  I get where you're coming from, but I thought SMG struck a perfect balance between difficulty and fun. Th... : edgewise
  • Sports games are where I feel like you do. Way too complicated. Too many buttons and moves, I just get ov... : edgewise
  • Best game I played in 2007, it was amazing : Serpico74
• Agreed, though I'm not sure youre sentiments are age-based. I've always felt this way, and hated some of ... : vitaminzach
• agreed. we're getting old. : TPSReport
• I long ago decided to play all games on "Medium" difficulty because it's more fun that way. I rarely have... : Bold
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  i was playing SMB2 yesterday, impressed with how much patience i had as a child to get through games like... : aurealis
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    i don't think it was patience so much as a surplus of free time and an undeveloped critical mind : EvilDolemite
    • true.. plus i took video game defeat personally. i couldn't just put it down and tell myself 'its only a... : aurealis
• That's alright, everyone gets old at some point. : stuka
• Agree so, so much. Though, I think it's part of getting older. You can't devote enough time to it any m... : boarder2
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  This is why the half life 2 series is so awesome : action roommate
  • Half Life 2 is easily one of my top five favorite games ever. : filtersweep
• For it's simply not having the time. There are also so many games to play these days, it's hard for me to... : gibolas1234

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  will you say dirty things over my headset? : ejectorpod
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    I already IM you dirty things. What more do you want? : Koral06
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      pics+divx. i would play crackdown and gow with you but I packed up most of my games and they are loade... : ejectorpod
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        Damn it ejectorpod you're not gonna make friends in Seattle that way. : Koral06
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          But I thought being standoffish, a loner, and reclusive was the Seattle way? : ejectorpod
          • damn right it is! : cltcprd
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  You're a girl though, shouldn't getting laid be as easy as walking outside wherever you live and saying "... : Vincent Grayson
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    That'd be true if I actually ever got sun light! You forget I am a shacker. : Koral06
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=59967 : Utopia
    • I'm pretty sure pale skin won't be a significant obstacle between you and getting laid. : Vantage
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      Aren't you 'engaged'? : pancake humper
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        Does that imply sex or sun? : Koral06
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          Unless you're a vampire doing that Silver Ring Thing, then yes, it does. : evildanish
          • Damn it! I'm doing it wrong again. : Koral06
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      what type should i be expected? : oHnOES
      • sigh : oHnOES
    • pale girls are aweomse :( : moe6
    • You're doing it wrong. : Thisispol
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    If I watched a girl walk out of her house and say that, I can guarantee I wouldn't get anywhere near her. : Rotten Deadite
    • Well, I bet you that everyone else won't think the same. : famine101
  • Such an incredible luxury and they don't even use it. : Marrbe
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  Gears 2 sounds fun : MoreVespeneGas
  • Do you have me added? : Koral06
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  Just added you, I'd be down with Mercs 2 especially since I plan on selling it soon to get in a Beatles R... : Xevo
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    Ok downloading the updates. Haven't signed on for awhile so I didn't realize there was anything to be upd... : Koral06
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      Yeah they just added some stuff to the dashboard a couple of days back, it was all pretty quick for me. A... : Xevo
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        What the mother fucker. My wifi connection keeps jumping out. It won't let me stay connected. I haven't h... : Koral06
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          Hm weird, you're using the wireless adapter thing? Did you run a network test yet? : Xevo
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            Yeah it says it can't read my wireless adapter. I even replugged the adapter in, and nothing. Is it broke... : Koral06
            • try restarting your router then running network test again.....might fix it up. : Borzoi
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              Weird that it was working well enough to let you get the Dashboard update, try Borzoi's idea for sure. : Xevo
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                I restarted the router nothing. It only let me get part of the update. :( : Koral06
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                  ugh, fucking lame dude, did you try power cycling the Xbox already? running out of good ideas here. : Xevo
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                    What's power cycling? : Koral06
                    • Turning it off, let it sit for awhile (30 seconds - 1 minute), turn it back on. Sounds stupid, but it's s... : Xevo
                  • some Xbox.com troubleshooting pages, hopefully something here helps: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/9... : Xevo
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                    if rebooting the router wasn't enough, my next suggestion is to go into your router settings and make sur... : Borzoi
                    • if that still isn't helping, the last check would be to hook up your 360 to your router via ethernet, and... : Borzoi
                    • the ports (if you need to do this) are TCP 80 UDP 88 UDP 3074 TCP 3074 UDP 53 TCP 53 But if you... : Xevo
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                      Kind of gave up for now. But I'm going to try this later. Just got invited to a BBQ! Thanks guys! : Koral06
                      • k have fun, hopefully something of this helps you and it's not a bigger problem (like a broken adapter or... : Xevo
                      • good luck- bbq is more fun that sitting around on Xbox LIVE anyhow :) : Borzoi
• I'm glad to know you are saving your fake virginity for your fake marriage. : tashtego
• Ill play with you this weekend... Im at the office right now tho! : krym3
• I feel referenced. Such a joy. : frenziedbadger
• I've never played Crackdown in coop before and I heard it's cool. Add me if you want to play through tha... : Mecha Tofu Pirate

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  www.engadget.com : pancake humper
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    Also, this Zune HD is going to be fucking badass. : pancake humper
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      Its too hard to justify when I already have an iPhone :L( : D45hiz
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        Yeah. I was going to buy one but now that the replacement is coming, gonna put it on hold. Would have bee... : pancake humper
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          It just looks sweet. Well maybe they will come out with a phone. : D45hiz
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            the OLED screen. I was wishing Apple would put one on the 3GS. Would solve a lot of battery problem bulls... : pancake humper
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              OLED is better for battery life? I didn't know this. : D45hiz
              • yeah. supposedly the Zune HD will have some pretty crazy battery time : Degenerate
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                Yeah, a lot less power is needed to run them. Plus they are also a lot cheaper to purchase in bulk compar... : pancake humper
                • http://www.oled-info.com/introduction : pancake humper
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    Yep, I got that email. all the links to preorder are dead except for the one that points to MS. : FormerHPB
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      Yeah, I don't think Best Buy pre-orders start until the 25th. Boston gets an early hands on too :D : pancake humper
      • Looks like you can pre-order from Amazon though. : pancake humper
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  That is awesome, does it have an SD card expansion slot? : MagicWishMonkey
  • No. : ateam311
• Colours: http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/13/zune-hd-color-options-revealed-in-pre-order-email/ I still... : Carnivac
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  I'm ignorant to mp3 players, but what (sensible, helpful answers only please), makes this better than say... : MeestaNob
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    The UI looks amazing and fast as hell and OLED and fast browser and oh god god god http://www.engadget... : Deathlove
    • want :( : Degenerate
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      That looks nifty. Dumb question: it has HDMI out, but can it play divx/xvid or is it merely capable of st... : MeestaNob
      • I don't know! Win7's WMP is pretty comprehensive, so I'm hoping for good support. Seems silly to not offe... : Deathlove
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        Those are specialized codecs. Standard divx will probably be supported, but I don't think they'll allow y... : disposition
        • Thanks! : MeestaNob
  • It has a great touch interface and it can output 720p video with a dock or dongle. : deject
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    no itunes : dantastic
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      'cause a Windows-only, proprietary client with half the media management features is better (I like th... : Postal
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        I've never heard anything but praise over the Zune software and it's usefulness compared to iTunes : Halen
        • Agreed : SlingBlaze
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          The Zune software is really pretty nice, but iTunes runs on OSX and Windows and last I checked it even wo... : hawkeye
          • I agree, although I wouldn't be opposed to having it work through WINE and just virtualbox into an Ubuntu... : Demius
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          you live in a strange world... the Zune software is good enough to use, but there's no such thing as a Ge... : Postal
          • I seem to recall Zune MixView getting more than a few reviews saying it was better than the Genius stuff ... : derelict515
  • Zune Pass is pretty awesme too. 15$ a month for all the music downloads you want, plus you can keep 10 of... : Modica Sol Solis
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    iTouch : legato17
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      can i? : Demius
      • uCan't : legato17
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  wow is that before the instant rebate if you sign up for 2 years phone service? : not work safe
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    the Zune HD isn't a phone : Shadowdane
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      funny thing is, not once have i ever witnessed anyone actually make a phone call with the iphone. *cue... : -=kodiak=-
      • I rarely do too, but its nice not to have to carry a phone and mp3 player. Now if I could just get my iph... : not work safe
      • haha yah the only person I know who I've seen using it as a phone is my roommate. : Shadowdane
      • If it's your main phone, you use it just as much as a phone as you would any other phone. Which for me is... : zuga
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        .. really? I've never witnessed anyone using their iPhone as a media player. : edgewise
        • This. I have a zune and an iPhone and I don't even have any media on the phone. : reznory
      • I've never witnessed two rabbits fucking, but I'm sure it happens all the time. : zuga
• not bad : maulla
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  Has anyone tried running this in Parallels or something? : Modica Sol Solis
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    what? : Degenerate
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      I want one but I'm running OSX. I wanna know how the software performs under VMWare or Parallels. : Modica Sol Solis
      • ahh, I see. I have no answer for you! but I'm sure it will be perfectly fine : Degenerate
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        I've never had an issue w/ VMware picking up USB devices (ala iTunes & an iPhone). VirtualPC on the othe... : goatjc
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          what about virtual box : Demius
          • I can only speak for vmware, haven't gotten the chance to dink around in virtualbox yet, but I hear nothi... : goatjc
        • A friend found he couldn't update his iPhone firmware via VMware but day-to-day stuff like synching works... : nudel
• newegg has them up for preorder. : tested2
• So tempting but I wish it was larger in terms of HDD. : NFXFSX
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  will it have an app store? : GloriousCow
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    Nothing on that yet. With the XNA development platform they already have, they'd be crazy not to open up... : Carnivac
    • i thought they said that they'd have a games store/user created games by last fall. : feek
    • yeah XNA already has a Zune template option when starting a project. : Degenerate
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  Ah sounds like software news coming soon according to one of the Zune guys on Twitter http://twitter.com... : Carnivac
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    plz be wmp plz be wmp : Deathlove
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      what do you mean? : feek
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        i think he means he wants WMP to replace the Zune Software? : Shadowdane
        • that's all i could think of, but that doesnt really make sense. : feek
    • that would imply Microsoft wasn't just trying to copy Apple (whether it makes sense or not). they're w... : Postal
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  I'm really really looking forward to any sort of announcements about XNA and the ZuneHD : Demius
  • werd : qwpeoriu
  • It would be a waste of the Tegra chip otherwise. : pap26
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  I don't know if I'd get the 16 or the 32 :\ : thief
  • a single 720p movie is about 4GB... get the 32 :P : Postal
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  i'll probably get this when they have a 64gb version under 300 dollars : feek
  • i will probably do this as well. hopefully find a refurbished one for a steal like I did for my 30gb one. : stgulik
  • Definitely waiting for the 64gb version, even if it's like $400. : disposition
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    September 2010, mark your calendar : Postal
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      hopefully there's a zune phone or iphone on verizon before then, because that's what i'd really want. : feek
      • Zune phones will be Windows Mobile phones with some Zune UI elements :( : Postal
• spawn 120g version and I'll care. 120g zune works great! : unjustend
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  Will there be hd movie content in the zune store ? ... and when is all this zune shit coming to europe :p : imperator
  • thought they already had 720p; if not, they will : Postal
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  Newegg has it up w/ free shipping and September 15th delivery: http://promotions.newegg.com/Microsoft/... : liqker
  • nice small perk, amazon will give $5 in music upon shipment : samekh

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• you? : CrustaR
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  get a haircut you hippie : sigpro
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    I did shortly after, but it grew back :( : Serpico74
    • Fuck, its way shaggier right now, I need a cut bad : Serpico74
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  Is it possible to dislike Felicia Day? : Ellissd
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    it sure is! : Majuju
    • Lies. I'm not one of those "OMG Felicia Day is so hot and she should have my babies" kind of guys, bu... : Ctrl-Phreak
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    I don't dislike her so much as fail to understand why everyone likes her so much. Everything I've seen he... : Vincent Grayson
    • She looks pretty cute in that video. Also geek girls make for more attractive females to the gamer pop... : MrLobo
    • pretty + geek + very active in Internet media (see The Guild and Dr. Horrible). basically the shacker's d... : Postal
    • I'm in the same boat here. : notd665
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  Your shackname makes so much more sense now. You kinda do look like Serpico. http://bullyforme.files.w... : Prozium
  • Yup, someone gave it to me in 97 when I had really shaggy hair, about the same time I really started play... : Serpico74
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  you are friends with felicia day? : Goalie
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    We worked together a few years back and we're in the same neighborhood, so yeah : Serpico74
    • You asshole, bring her to the next Shackmeet! and I can brush her hair. : BlackCat9
    • so do the drapes match the curtains? : edgewise
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  What she said about singing is exactly how I feel. I don't mind singing, but for this game I will always ... : invisible_kid
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    Playing with three singers was the biggest surprise of the game, it was really fun. I wasn't expecting th... : Serpico74
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      Not with the people I play with. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take more than 30 seconds before the earth w... : FlatlineDixay
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        Yeah, its why I don't sing either, its a pretty bad scene : Serpico74
        • I usually do OK singing, but I usually don't sing until after a few beers, so I'm not sure how well I'm a... : Ctrl-Phreak
        • Individually we're *barely* tolerable to other people; it gets exponentially worse when we try to sing to... : FlatlineDixay
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  I vote we plan a Beatles Rock Band shackmeet. It's going to be awesome, and awesome + shackers = awesome+... : Ctrl-Phreak
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    We totally should. iamgoat planning another Shackmeet this year? : Serpico74
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      You know what, KrYm3 mentioned that thay were in planning stages back in like the beginning of June, and ... : Ctrl-Phreak
      • We can also do another shin-dig at our place. We love having you phreaks over! : DianeOfTheMoon
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  You're a drummer that hangs out with Felicia Day? : Fred Garvin
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    Toy drummer, there's a difference : Serpico74
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      I enjoy reading her FB posts and drummer and singer are actual skills from RB that are musically relevant... : Fred Garvin
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        I can't find a Fan page on FB? I've been following her tweets for ages. : Rich McNinch
        • Not a fan page, her personal page. : Fred Garvin
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      As a former real drummer, I'm impressed with how close Rock Band drumming is to the real thing. Three of ... : rock elf
      • Yeah, I was able to sit down at a real kit for the first time after playing plenty of Rock Band and withi... : nurglich
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        Pretty much that, I'd have to learn how to hit snares/toms/cymbals properly, get used to keeping time ins... : Serpico74
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          Do you have those fancy cymbal attachments you can get? I've been tempted to get those. : Ctrl-Phreak
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            I have an Ion kit, but I don't use the cymbals on that anymore because I don't like breaking them down wh... : Serpico74
            • Oh nice. I'd love to play on that kit. I'm not quite hardcore/wealthy enough to justify it's purchase, bu... : Ctrl-Phreak
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        i wish they would make a stand to position the pads in a more realistic manner of fashion. : dopeman
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          You can do it with an Ion kit or modified electronic drums, but then you're spending way more than normal... : Serpico74
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            yeah, that's the thing. i just want to play my video games more realistically :( : dopeman
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              There are also some songs where the hi-hat and the snare pads get switched around, sometimes even mid-son... : Serpico74
              • i hate, hate, hate those songs. :D my ion kit's laid out more drumkit-ish, and doing a constant quick-ish... : xsoulbrothax
    • Toys or not, That shit can get pretty hard. I bet you could rock out fairly well with a real drum set wit... : Ctrl-Phreak
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      how did you come to know Felicia? : kevp
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        Met her on working an ad a few years ago. Both video game nerds, both in the same neighborhood, etc etc : Serpico74
        • cool, she seems like she'd be a blast to be around. : kevp
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  Haha, you ARE a fucking ringer on the drums, jesus. : sammyl
  • I actually had a tough time at first! Ringo's drumming is absolutely different from all the rock and alte : Serpico74
  • Hang on, we've played together a couple times by now, you know this! : Serpico74
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  i would like todo horrible things to that lovely lady. : Klebold
  • Same here. :D : thetangent
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  I keep wondering how Ringo's drumming translates to Rock Band...fun? : drbriefs
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    Yes! Octopus's Garden, Back In The USSR, and Get Back were all super fun. It is different though. As I sa... : Serpico74
    • Just thinking about Get Back I can see where that would definitely seem a bit different. That's cool ... : Ctrl-Phreak
• Hey Serpico74. You seem like a cool dude. : notd665
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  Woooooah! I knew her laugh at the 1 min and 19 second mark reminded me of something: Felicia's laugh: ... : warcrow
  • aah crap, perhaps I'm just crazy! : warcrow
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    Copyright restrictions in my country prevent viewing of link two, v0m1tg0d :( : Dave-A
    • How about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=___KbZneQ1s : warcrow
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    Kind of funny considering this was made for her birthday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/feliciaday/3739057... : Serpico74
    • this is getting even more weird. : warcrow