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• interesting that the changes are not only visual, but gameplay-changing, like the fog obstructing your vi... : OrkO
• Very interesting stuff. : bcyde
• Either all the commentors are 14th century Russian street urchins, or average grammar-raping Americans. ... : NEX!
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  In short, the game does not 0wn with PhysX off. : CrustaR
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    So is this supposed to be stealthy atmospheric game play with some quick time combat sequences? : hatelull
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      the combat isn't quick time based at all. the game has simplified a lot of things, for example to grapp... : mikecyb
      • i felt like solid snake taking dudes out : Iwannaacura
    • no you just use the attack or counter buttons and batman goes hog wild. looks good but it's not particula... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  Does the 360 version look like the non-physx pc version? : SenorSpine
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    SenorSpine, probably. : CrustaR
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      That is a poopy diaper CrustaR. : SenorSpine
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        SenorSpine, the 360 hardware is fairly old. :[ : CrustaR
        • That may be true CrustaR, but I would argue that it has heart? : SenorSpine
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    Not sure about the 360 version as I haven't played it yet, but in the ps3 demo there was no fog and stuff... : sigpro
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      yeah I don't recall seeing any of that stuff in the 360 version : mikecyb
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        cyber dognose, did this anger you? : CrustaR
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          I didn't know it existed in the PC version, so it did not anger me! it's all mostly just fancy pants gra... : mikecyb
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            Yes. :[ : CrustaR
            • CrustyB I have an ATI card, this is balls : mikecyb
          • I thought there were some ATI drivers (or maybe they're not out yet) : derelict515
  • The 360 version does not look as good as the PC version with PhysX on. There are a few destructibles, but... : Sole.exe
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  That's pretty ridiculous. You don't need PhysX for sparks and particle effects if you know what you are d... : gooblerampling
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    how is the steam silly? it moves as he passes through it which is pretty badass. : waxthirteen
    • If you want steam and clouds to move right when people walk through them, then this is a hugely awesome a... : Sparticuse
  • Far from silly. Interactivity is never a bad thing. Game worlds today are still really "dead", so to spea... : vx2o
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  Batman would never casually kick papers as he strolled around. Boycott. Who'll sign my petition? : Alice O'Connor
  • I'm down. Stealthy detective? Why doesn't he just put a fucking bell around his neck too. : Rooster Cockburn
• I'm downloading this for PC now, it better be good! : Big Luke
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  i like the phrase "dynamic paper", more games need to incorporate dynamic paper into their engine : qwpeoriu
  • I'm not buying Rage unless id incorporates a dynamic paper system into id Tech 5! : esad
  • i was hoping for dynamic crates : grendel
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  look at him kick those papers out of the way. Batman doesn't give a fuck : manero
  • You, kick you can see the path to the document. Never mind Batman http://translationparty.com/tp/#331352 : hashd
• Dear Gods, now I don't want to play it without PhysX : Sailor of Fortune
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  If I had an ATI card, could I just drop in a cheap nVidia card and get phys-x from it? : aggressor
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    Supposedly this used to work, but the newest drivers block Physx if a non-nVidia card is present in the s... : cltcprd
    • ooo disregard my lower post if this is true : xsoulbrothax
    • Wow, that's a dick move :( : aggressor
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      that seems retarded to me, you'd think nvidia would take any advantage they'd get to stick an nvidia card... : qwpeoriu
      • I think it's strange too, but http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/16223-nvidia-disables-physx-when-ati-car... : cltcprd
  • yes, though it has to be an.. 8 series or higher, iirc. like 8600 and up. and the drivers are probably... : xsoulbrothax
  • I know the card has to support CUDA but I thought this stuff was more or less embedded with the graphics ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  This is a retarded Nvidia marketing ploy. All those physics effects can be done with a standard video car... : Link.
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    I imagine a fair bit of why this gets done is because physx provides the middleware to do these effects, ... : SenorSpine
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      Yes, but in the process screw a lot of ATI users. : VictoriouSecret
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        who in their right mind uses ATI anyway : papaskot
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          ATI users : dognose
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            http://www.instantrimshot.com/ : Nitrium
            • I have owned both and loved both, and neither gave me any more trouble than the other : dognose
    • I'd rather take a two week delay than deal with this shit. Grr. : Link.
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    BINGO. This crap pisses me off completely. I get stuck eating random crashes, or missing out on a nice ch... : VictoriouSecret
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      Don't let the marketing cash-ins win, dude! : Link.
      • But...but I want my games to be prettier :( Honestly I may be in the market as is. One or both of my 4... : VictoriouSecret
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    What are you talking about? PhysX runs on top of CUDA. It doesn't have anything to do with the graphics... : factor27
    • CUDA might be coming to ATI...so...maybe in the future? http://www.ngohq.com/news/16115-amd-to-support-cu... : aggressor
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      As long as the game is running at 60FPS or higher, what's the problem? : Link.
      • Perhaps the frame hit was larger and could be resolved by having something else do the standard and highe... : moe6
  • I wouldn't mind. If they had a motherboard with built in graphics that could do CUDA and thus physx, then... : moe6
  • Yes, it certainly can be done. But why there isn't that much of it in non-PhysX games? : vx2o
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  So can you get this stuff with a single PhysX enabled GPU, or do you need 2 : Judecca
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    if its like mirrors edge you can turn it on but will take a hit on graphics. i can run mirror edge maxed ... : Iwannaacura
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      You're using an ATI video card. It gets choppy in part because the PhysX is running on your CPU, not you... : Arcanum
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        Does the PhysX on the CPU take advantage of multicore? I'm positive Mirror's Edge wouldn't be using all t... : derelict515
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          I have no idea. Keep in mind that CPUs, being general-purpose devices, are likely to not be as good at p... : Arcanum
          • yeah I know, I just imagine that a whole idle CPU (or two) would be beefy enough and a better place for t... : derelict515
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        i thought someone said it was 15% hit on your card not cpu : Iwannaacura
        • on a nvidia card yes, ATI has no hardware acceleration for physx : OrkO
    • I play Mirror's Edge on GF8800GTX and PhysX on with no problems. Sure it slows down somewhat in certain s... : vx2o
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  PhysX is required to RENDER fog and sparks? The fuck..... How much did Nvidia pay them for this advert... : Mystery0000
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    non-physx had sparks too, just not very pretty seemingly realistic ones. Although I do think they shou... : moe6
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      Didn't the Havok and Euphoria engines do this? : VictoriouSecret
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        Doesn't the Euphoria engine also perform markedly better on a quad core though... : moe6
        • Not 15% better, *cough*PhysX*cough* : VictoriouSecret
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    IMHO that's cool, because it's not functionality, it's ambience and atmosphere. As long as PhysX is not r... : Nitrium
    • HIGH-FIVE BRA!! : dedgecko
    • You don't think steam and fog are a part of "functionality" in a Batman stealth game? That was pretty sig... : K1Bond007
• I find it curious that they removed particle effects without PhysX. Couldn't they have done it the old s... : DHAvatar
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  Tile removal...the Batman way. : LilCrypto
  • Batman hates the caulk. : My Documents
• Not that impresive.....the steam is the only thing I really noticed. : kainen1
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  After Red Faction, none of this impresses me :( : Milleh
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    your dead inside : Ziz
    • Not really. Red Faction is uber-badass. :( : walker270
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    Between the new RF and BF:1943 I am ruined for other games. If I drive into something and it doesn't brea... : AgentPothead
    • BC:2 will up the ante even further as far as BC/1943 are concerned - collapsable buildings! : Milleh
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  its basically how it worked with mirrors edge. when enabled it just makes the world feel a bit more aliv... : smacknca
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    what are the effects physx had on mirror's edge? the world was pretty stationary iirc. : jane911
    • It was mostly for flowy banners and cloth around some of the pillars and objects. It was used mostly for... : DHAvatar
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      Plastic tarps that would got shot up by helicopters and stuff. Flags and other minor things. It wasn't wo... : pyide
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxOBhnF4aRc&fmt=22 : pyide
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  I was surprised the PhysX stuff worked on my PC. Too bad my tiles break in bullet time. :[ : My Documents
  • I can turn it on but the game just crawls after the intro. Q6600 8gb Geforce 8800gt or gts i forget right... : Ziz
• man that sucks. : mwasher
• I'm downloading the 360 demo now. : Ziz
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  I did notice a lot of those effects on the demo while i played it, no lag whatsoever and everything was s... : Darkfox76
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    there is no reason my i7 + 4890 should not be able to reproduce those effects. stupid fucking nvidia. : mwasher
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      If your system is a dual i7 setup at a high enough clock, that's probably true. Runing PhysX on CPU does ... : bostrov
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        well I'm saying that if physx wasn't locked to nvidia cards then i'd be able to run it and nvidia is stup... : mwasher
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          Humm, I think PhysX is still enabled for CPU processing, just not processing on a GPU when there is an AT... : bostrov
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            I haven't tried it in this demo, but in other games you can force PhysX to be enabled even without an app... : Arcanum
            • oh, didn't know that was possible. if so it's still stupid. will try this evening. : mwasher
  • PhysX runs on CUDA-enabled GPUs. Here's a list: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html : vx2o
• How would this run on my 8800GTS 512 Vs a PS3? I have a Q6600 at stock and 4 gigs of ram. : baronzemo78
• This game is bad fucking ass. It's like a great blend of Thief + Splinter Cell + Batman. The demo is ... : slax0r
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  game feels like dumbed down splinter cell. the combat is pretty much two buttons and feels incredibly scr... : maulla
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    I kind of feel the same way. But at the same time I don't really have a problem with that, I'm sure I'll ... : qwpeoriu
    • Ghostbusters was a huge disappointment, but I agree that Wolverine was definitely above average. : dedgecko
• Does the old stand alone pci card still work for this stuff or do you need an Nvidia card? : melkore
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  I'm pleased that the effects are realistic and fairly subtle rather than being in-your-face. : Arcanum
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    They missed out on some things that could've made the game even more immersive, like seeing Batman's brea... : ShekkyBoy
    • Or hearing the sound of his sweaty crotch making his leather groin chafe as he runs through Arkham. Immer... : Bamtan
• Holy fuck... combat looks very similar to Assassin's Creed. This just went up on my must play list. : coyoterys
• FRIDAY NIGHT VIDEOS]* : hatelull

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  Ooo big :( : dognose
  • Appropriately Big! : Jonathan
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  When is the Carmack Keynote? : dognose
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    Isn't it usually Saturday afternoon? : Totenjaeger
    • Last year it was Thursday night. They haven't said yet. : Gonzo
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  This sounds fucking awesome. Not for the first time, I swear I'll make it to one of these one year. :( : node
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    It is usually way more fun than I would prefer, because then the rest of the year is boring :( : dognose
    • next year i promise to come and give you a big StormTrooper hug! : g0nk
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      CEDAR POINT : ThomW
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        I want to so bad, I just spent 2 grand on car repair :( : dognose
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          Then it should be in top shape for the drive up. ;) : ThomW
          • I suppose I could sleep in it :/ : dognose
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    I know, looks like so much fucking good shit condensed into one get together. I want to go :( : nodebug
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      Dude, UK invasion, QuakeCon 2010. Let's do it. : node
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        I claim this here QuakeCon in the name of the Queen!! : nodebug
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          If the trend follows, next year will be a "smaller" year so there will be more time to hang out one-on-on... : dognose
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            I've done Six Flags in California, would go again! How come there's a trend of bigger then smaller ones? ... : node
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              most people show up on the odd numbered years largely i think to budget and timing constraints. : kbnerd
              • Well shit, as long as the quieter one's still awesome, I'm still down for saving my pennies for it. : node
          • Alton Towers is like a spread out Six Flags Great America, at least when it comes to the rides. : Totenjaeger
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  I take it TastyWheat owns that calendar and to get added I should email him? : ThomW
  • Yeah, or Shackmessage him per his post here http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20564358 : dognose
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    he's probably still in the air lol. : nyranger66
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      Actually he will be sleeping for another 3 hours and then he and cords are going to eat breakfast and the... : Galadriel07
      • we're doing last minute checks of our bags before we head off to the airport : CoRDS
• Holy shit what a list of stuff to do. :( I gotta start coming to these and meet some shackers..... : kainen1
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  Also if anyone wants Chinese vegetarian buffet lunch with me on Saturday, Shackmessage my fatass : dognose
  • I wish I could go. :( : thrallie200
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  4 austin shackers? it's a god damn christmas miracle : Audhuml4
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    I really would like to go. : mwasher
    • i would like you to go, too! : Audhuml4
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  No u. : askedrelic
  • embp : dognose
• Awesome, dognose! Am I wrong in thinking this might surpass Quakecon 2007 in awesomeness? Plus we get d... : mrwolf710
• Anyone heard if the Mister Sinus/PancakeTheater/Raspberry Brothers are doing a show? : mrwolf710
• have fun kids! : FrayLo
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  I dont leave until 7pm on sunday. I would like to go to the lunch at the Buddhist temple! : hirez
  • Six bucks, all you can eat! Vegetarian though. But good! : dognose
• Texas de Brazil in Addison? It should be the Dallas one, which is what's close to the Clubhouse. : action roommate
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  Awesome dognose thanks. I'll be down for the Friday events for sure. I'll be renting a car so I'll be abl... : freakynipples69
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    That is if Enterprise doesn't check my license record. Fingers crossed! : freakynipples69
    • I can probably provide rides if you can't rent one. : dognose
• A rental car was acquired today! We'll be able to tote a couple other people around if need be. : helvetica
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  Ok I think I have everything as far as events and the Quakecon schedule goes. http://www.google.com/... : DrillBit
  • Sweet, we will need to plan stuff around that public Rage demo on Saturday at 2:30. : dognose
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  Calendar updated with Thom's arrival details - I'll add the buddhism stuff once I land. Last check bef... : TastyWheat
  • You saw DrillBit's post with the Carmack keynote and Rage demo info? : dognose
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  Some year I need to go to quakecon. Stuff always comes up (or theres the prospect that it will and I can... : Vorlonesque
  • Yikes! You need to get away :( : dognose

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  <salute> Watch for Hajji and thank you. </salute> : thejay247
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    Hajji IED's : disposition
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      no shit, huh? fucking things. : mindfk
      • I hear they accidentally packed them with explosives instead of confetti. Silly Hajjis. : disposition
• Good luck! Props to you for serving! : FormerHPB
• stay safe, and thanks. : Cheeziologist
• stay safe : redfive
• good luck mindfuck, and stay safe! : deject
• All the best to you! Come home safe man. : Trepex
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  It will be ok. At least it will be an interesting year or so. : Delaric
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    yup, thats how i look at it. part of the reason i joined is that i sit behind a computer all day for my 9... : mindfk
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      i thought you were active at some point? : xxiv
      • nope, straight reserves. plan was originally to go to OCS after completing my degree and be a mustang off... : mindfk
• Kick ass, take names, stay safe! : Phil
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  You should buy an iphon and shack from the battlefield. : hoov1185
  • SHCVAK, (fucking iphone) I AM BEING SHIT AT. : Phil
  • no you should buy an itouch and load it the fuck up with porn. seriously. : xxiv
  • I don't know, some of these places (like Iraq and bumfuck, Afghanistan) have horrible cell phone receptio... : Maddog_Delphi97
• i hope you don't have to kill anybody : mr.sleepy
• stay safe and thanks for doing what you do Marine. : metalremains
• Good Luck out there : hrdwregk
• going to the sandbox eh? Best of luck to you. : baconisgod
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  I'm active duty, but getting deployed this year as well. At least I'll be getting paid more : glio1337
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    do you guys get paid BAH like we do during a deployment? the extra $1500/mo sure doesn't hurt. : mindfk
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      Not sure, I just know there is extra monies given for being deployed. Maybe it comes from the BAH, I can'... : glio1337
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        Haz duty/imminent danger pay = $250 a month plus jump/dive/demo or whatever else you qualify for. All de... : deadfish
        • There we go. Plus my expenses will be low, I'll be getting promoted while deployed (more money!) AND I'll... : glio1337
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      I don't think Active Duty get BAH unless they live off post (i.e. have an apartment/mortgage). BAH dur... : Sailor of Fortune
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        haha yeah, that's what i've been trying to pound into the heads of my marines right now. if you think you... : mindfk
        • this is so true : deadfish
• Keep your fucking head down, brother. Good luck and check in as you can. : NEX!
• Good luck. Come home safe. : orgcaptainnemo
• I just wanted to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you. : phate81
• Best of luck during your deployment. My best friend was in Western Baghdad doing base security/route s... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I really wish you could shack from wherever you are going and give us updates, but we all know LOOSE TALK... : tinfoilhatter
  • ya, that'd be nice but its looking like we'll be lucky to have electricity much less internet where i'm g... : mindfk
  • I had the internet when I was deployed. Albeit I was in a signal unit which basically is the AT&T of the ... : Sailor of Fortune
• stay frosty. good luck. : tangles
• Good luck! : cerealSAM2
• Good luck and stay safe! Thank you for your service! : senseimoron
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  you at least doing your previous job when you were active? had a friend of mine get called back and they ... : xxiv
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    not officially, but it looks like i'll be in a role that's a lot closer to it than it looked like it was ... : mindfk
    • oh i thought you meant last time i was deployed. i was never active duty. : mindfk
• Good luck man, and thank you for serving! I'm sure we'll all be keeping you in our thoughts. : ColoradoCNC
• http://translationparty.com/tp/#437306 : mace
• Hopefully I'll see your ass in a little under a year. Good luck, mang. : disposition
• Good luck, and thank you for your service. Kick ass and come back home safely. : Colleton
• Good luck dude. Don't forget to bob and weave. : Ctrl-Phreak
• keep your head down and your powder dry. good luck, and thanks. : hirez
• keep that head on a swivel! : riptyde
• Make sure to do some evasive rolling and never give up! Good luck out there. : DHAvatar
• please stay safe... : j0nchan
• <3. : anhero
• Don't trust the local Afghan or Iraqi troops for a second. : peter
• Secure that shit, Hudson. Good luck. : jingletard
• good luck dude, mad respect for you. : maulla
• Best of luck. Thank you for serving. If you get shot, remember to get in cover for four or five seconds u... : Rooster Cockburn
• Good luck dude! I finally applied for the Army here as a Combat Engineer and I'm waiting on them to c... : AlexXdude
• Shit dude. Good luck. Keep your muthafuckin' head down! : Mr. Goodwrench
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  Good luck, both of you! : sammyl
  • Oh wait now haiku is going to jump all over me for giving you a heartfelt yet ultimately meaningless plat... : sammyl
• Stay stafe out there man. SACON when you get back to civilization... : twifosp
• Good luck! : Link.
• install that "grenade nearby" hud from CoD4 and throw that shit back. stay safe man! : Downforce
• Thanks and good luck! : dmason
• thanks for all the well-wishes all. : mindfk
• Best of luck. : Thresher
• Best wishes.. One of my best friends is in the Marine Reserves.. Hope he doesn't get deployed :(. Already... : Reeves
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  Keep your balls dry and get back safely. : Kolpath
  • I hear dry socks are the key. OD Green. : ra1n
  • GAIN GREEN BALLS : glio1337
• come back with all your parts. .. good luck marine. : ghost hacker
• Good luck to you and you and brothers. fully expect you to come home safely, Thank you. : creep
• I used to have nightmares as a kid that I'd be drafted. I appreciate you fighting for my continued freed... : ra1n
• Stay safe. We'll be here when you get back (hopefully abrasion won't). : ateam311
• Godspeed ! : gummijoh
• give em hell : cpt_gloval
• Good luck and keep your head down unless you're shooting. : stump
• goodluck and best wishes! : pharom
• Be safe, bud. : c0bra

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  25: Falcon 4 24: Diablo 23: Doom 22: UT 21: Deus Ex 20: Grim Fandango 19: Fallout 18: SS2 17: Cry... : Masem
  • Internet lists. : Begawkiness
  • No Thief, your argument is invalid. : notd665
  • No SMAC, no Deal. : Sailor of Fortune
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    Crysis has no business being higher than any of the games beneath it. : pyrogen
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      I don't know how that game scores so high. : Pettytheft
      • A lot of people dump on it. I loved it. : FlatlineDixay
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      disagree. it belongs right where it is. : retarded talking dinosaur
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        Seriously. It may be THE LAST major blockbuster PC-only title. Ever. : retarded talking dinosaur
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          That doesn't make it a good game. : daedraug
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            No, but the fact that is an excellent game does. : retarded talking dinosaur
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              I don't really see how Crysis is an excellent game. I'll give the following reasons: AI: The AI is incom... : LoioshDwaggie
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                Agreed - but I will add that the story was generic sci-fi, with nothing new and exciting. Much of the le... : dedgecko
                • Oh yeah, I totally forgot story and level design. I agree with dedgecko but would like to add that I have : LoioshDwaggie
            • It's a good game, but better than Diablo? Doom? Fallout? Fuck no. : Vincent Grayson
    • Never played it, but it had better be good to outpace some of the ones on that list. I'd also happily tra... : steauengeglase
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    Look how wrong this list is. : CrustaR
    • I agree. this is quite self-0wned :[ : Downforce
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    Got some good games on there. I don't think there's much debate over Tie, Xcom and Civ. The lack of Thief... : LoioshDwaggie
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      The lack of Splinter Cell in a Top 25 PC Games of All Time list? REALLY? : zerog83
      • It came out on the PC (Xbox, Mac and GBA somehow) and the game redefined a genre, so yes, REALLY. : LoioshDwaggie
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    UT but no Quake. At least they got that right. : omnova
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      Blasphemy. Quake is superior to all Unreal. : alias
      • ^Agree with this. : The Grolar Bear
    • What. UT has no business on that list. : ieGod
    • lol the second i saw the lack of quake i knew you jackass would post. QUAKWORLD FOREVER! DEATH TO THE UT... : Hoax
  • Really, the only thing I'm not understanding on this list is the inclusion of Call of Duty, and the exclu... : PenicillinX57
  • ign.com : Mr.SEX
  • Where is Descent II? : Head Rush
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    wtf Crysis, no : Serpico74
    • yeah, that's just flat wrong. : dirge23
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      Yeah, agreed. Graphically, it was top notch, but game wise, it was just another shooter. : Thresher
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        Yup. It wasn't even really a game, just a tech demo. : The Grolar Bear
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          That's such a fucking stupid argument. It was a "tech demo". Yeah, Half-Life 1 was just a tech demo too. ... : Wisp!
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            Well, I don't know what to tell you; the only thing I felt Crysis was trying to get across was its shiny ... : The Grolar Bear
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              So you didn't like it, therefore its not a video game? I, for one, think Crysis is an excellent game. The... : Wisp!
              • I didn't say it wasn't a video game because I didn't like it. I said it wasn't a video game because it wa... : The Grolar Bear
  • "It will blow your mind" -igndotcom : moe6
  • how to drive traffic to our site idea #1 : pieman
  • top 25 random games people on our staff liked in no particular order : Audhuml4
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    a lot of those are expected, but Pirates? Really? One of the most boring games ever created rates as nu... : DonkeyPopsicle
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      oh, the original. That's more acceptable, I suppose. : DonkeyPopsicle
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        The remake was the exact same game though :/ : daedraug
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          I simply plead ignorance on that. But the new one was incredibly, painfully boring. : DonkeyPopsicle
          • I disagree! Pirates! was a very fun game. I'd agree that it could have used a little more variety in the ... : thetangent
    • I disagree with both your points! Pirates! is absolutely one of my favorite games, and deserves to be on ... : daedraug
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    No Star Control II, and no Ultima? Fucked up list : retardhumper
    • True fact on the Star Control 2. I'd swap Crysis out for it. Need to find room for Tribes as well. : Grumbeld
  • No Quake, list was written by morons. : Horn
  • No Duke3d? Really? : freakynipples69
  • where the eff is snood on that list : aurealis
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    hl2 is better than half life. the quicker this is accepted the better for all. : EvilDolemite
    • Even if someone doesn't agree with that, it should still be on this list : glio1337
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      You are wrong. : thecatinthehat
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        oh wow half life has giant slugs that shoot green snot! whoa that marine hid behind a crate! seriousl... : EvilDolemite
        • Would you disagree that HL1 did that same thing (albeit with an older graphics engine) and set a standard... : focusdaily
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      It was better, but HL1 was the revolutionary one with the ingame cutscenes n shit. Single player FPS' we... : icon_of_syn
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        Same reason Diablo is on there rather than D2. (Although I haven't played either, I assume you get my po... : icon_of_syn
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          i see your point, but i don't understand when these lists rank "best ever" but then use factors like "fir... : EvilDolemite
          • Well, it's all relative I suppose. When I played HL1 for the first time I was pretty awed. Relatively s... : icon_of_syn
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    Where in the fuck is Syndicate. Crysis, CoH and UT have no business being on this list. : ieGod
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      UT 99 is one of the best PC games ever : EvilDolemite
      • Yeah this is where we just disagree. : ieGod
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      CoH definitely deserves to be on that list (Company of Heroes). Whether or not C&C should be up there ... : dedgecko
      • err flip Star Craft and CNC around. : dedgecko
      • Yeah I'm on the fence about C&C as well. They left out Thief though so really they don't know shit. : ieGod
      • Command and Conquer was an amazingly fun game that has spawned tons of great (and a few not so great) seq... : thetangent
  • Doom is not #1, list invalidated. : jet-poop
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    Star Control 2 or Ultima 7 not making the top 25 is simply insane! : sergeon
    • wow i just said this below. agreed. : icon_of_syn
  • I don't think I've ever seen a more broken list. I mean I never give these things much credit anyway, but... : K1Bond007
  • This list gets worst every year. Diablo but no Diablo 2? Crysis on the at all, much less above games li... : Dimmona
  • NO TRIBES !!!! INVALID LIST : gmd
  • Nice! I think this is a pretty solid list if you leave personal affection for genre's and bias at the doo... : icon_of_syn
  • As long as the list has BG2, Tie Fighter, Civ4, Fallout, SS2 and Deus Ex, I'm happy. Fortunately, it doe... : Vantage
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    What a worthless list. For one thing it indicates the games in their respective genres are the best - and... : avatar_58
    • mm bg2 might be the best PC RPG : EvilDolemite
  • where the fuck is leisure suit larry this list sucks : FrayLo
  • dude wtf $MY_FAVORITE_GAME isn't listed, this list is crap : electroly
  • While I might not agree with the order of things on that list, I do agree that a lot of the games mention... : thetangent
  • I'm guessing that this is one game per series, and even then Diablo 2 should be on there instead of Diabl... : Grumbeld
  • How on earth does a game like Diablo wind up on the list as being one of the top PC games of all time? Ma... : roushimsx
  • no quakes no dice : synapse19
  • 5,10,13,17 don't belong on that list : sanchez
  • I agree 100% with number 1, but pretty much none of the others. : RevRaven
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  that is a bad list : veras
  • ^^^ : eeeealmo
  • I was gonna make a list http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wVpG7h6M04 : capt tripps
• falcon 4, civ 4 reprepresentation... not so bad. : Foxhawk
• Top lists for gaming always wind up pissing me off in one way or another. : jingletard
• This thread is awful : Halen
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  This is horrible. No Duke, no Asheron's Call, no Ultima Online, no Total Annihilation, no Alpha Centauri,... : Link.
  • lol at Asheron's Call. How is that worthy of this list. EQ, Ultima...maybe. Not AC. : Sgt_Boomstick
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  oh yay another Top Games List we can all disagree with : das_runt
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    that's the point - it generates debate. It also generates ad-clicks. Think of how many other forums t... : dedgecko
    • why must we fight to come together? WHHHHHHHY? : das_runt
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  that list is terrible : maulla
  • "This list is so bad it will blow you away" - IGN : Hoax
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  What about Portal? : Wisp!
  • Great game, but doesn't need to be on that list. : Sgt_Boomstick
• Top 25* PC games of all time *minus some obvious titles plus some undeserving titles to generate more : boredguy
• lol the exclusion of quake and the inclusion of ut automatically makes this list irrelevant : nova_x
• While the ordering is wrong, this list hits on a lot of the key titles with only a few exceptions. Not ba... : Sgt_Boomstick
• I'76 where art thou. : Toth21

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• um... : NEX!
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  Wow, didn't see that one coming. : ra1n
  • Were your eyes closed? : Wyvern
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  I'd bang her in the poon and jerk her off I guess O_o : Phil
  • ... and when Phil said that, that's when I truly knew desperation had set in. : ThomW
  • peengina. phil loves it. : Colleton
  • TRANS-TACULAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Downforce
  • http://translationparty.com/tp/#503125 : thecatinthehat
• lol, I fucking knew it! : Godhatesfatpeople
• Oh god... but I... I just...I have... oh god... : lightly inclined
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  What is it? I can't view it at work. : Rag and Bone Man
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    lady gaga penis slip. : dopeman
    • WHAT?! : shwortdogg
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    Lady Gaga is a Hermaphrodite : Iazu
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      http://translationparty.com/tp/#420574 : zeke
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        LOL, that website is fun! http://translationparty.com/tp/#431125 : mace
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          http://translationparty.com/tp/#488651 : spazzium
          • fuckin lol communication communication communication communication communication communication communicat... : rgoer
    • So wheres the news? : avatar_58
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    A low res possible dong on lady ga-ga : chazums
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      ok who's lady gaga? : proclone1
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga : chazums
• vagenis? pengina? : cptstern
• Hahaaaaaaaaaa : felicia
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  oh man, I think I'm gonna...I think I'm gonna BLEEAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUURRRRRGHGGGGGG http://www.thrillist.c... : Delaric
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    it's just...it's just BLEEEEAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYSpIz2FjU : Delaric
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      Ok now, say cheese... BLEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH http://www.planetdan.net/pics... : datoo
      • lol perfect : Delaric
• hot : dirge23
• Lets have some fun, this beat is sick, I wanna take a ride on your disco stick. : kikilupo
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  I know what you're thinking. Here comes Old Gregg, he's a scaly man-fish. You don't know me. You don't kn : Bamtan
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    make an assessment : opengl128
    • love games? : kronetic
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  Is this fake? Can't look at it at work. : JohnnyRey
  • it's not fake but it's vague and inconclusive : dirge23
• I'd still fuck her. Pump her cock too at the same time. Fine by me. : moe6
• hahahah yikes : dromo5
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  really? looks like gold panties to me. i don't really care one way or the other but i don't see why you... : industro
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    it's because they want it to be a cock : dirge23
    • by "they" i mean "we" and by "we" i mean "i" : dirge23
• That quote from her can't be real. Is there a source or is it from a messageboard? : thrallie200
• She jessicaslumberparty'd the WORLD! : Gonzo
• B-B-B-B-Butterface! : kingdepork
• She's called Lady because she looks like a lady, and GaGa because you can choke on her cock. : Snuffles-
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  who the hell is this person? I swear to god I find out about more irrelevant celebrities from this place... : mikecyb
  • She is part of the international shadow hegemony that controls the world so you'd do well to perk up and ... : LilCrypto
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    Do you listen to the radio? One of her songs is on every 5 minutes or so. : helvetica
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      not music radio :( : mikecyb
      • You're missing out on some horribly bad and yet catchy songs! : helvetica
    • not on my radio O_o : MoreVespeneGas
  • Surely you've heard the song poker face -- p-p-p-p-p-oker face Or JUST DANCE : underground banana plantation
  • She's been discussed on NPR Sweetie. : Zhaneel
  • just day-unce : fluke
• I don't know who that is. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  google seems to think so: http://www.shackpics.com/files/gagaJPG_ltkeo5j2jpxgr7n70kn5.jpg : MrBig0
  • hahahahaha : Downforce
• Dude, what the fuck, I always assumed she was a he, doing the RuPaul thing as her shtick : Home Nugget
• Lady GaGa is a Phil post incarnate. Various levels of poon with a peener chaser. : festivalman
• Taylor Hanson's a guy, Quagmire. : byorn
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  interesting change http://translationparty.com/tp/#533652 : captfarrell
  • oops, was meant to be in the thread from earlier : captfarrell

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• Halo3, worse thing I've thrown is a sofa pillow. controllers cost too much to throw those. : metalremains
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  SFIV Seth fight, what. in. the. hell. : VictoriouSecret
  • This. Holy fuck I have never had a higher blood pressure and wanted to bash my arcade stick and monitor t... : noodleboy723
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    ^ This. Seth is bullshit. The only option is to try and exploit the AI by spamming jumping heavy kick and... : Rehevkor
    • Jump kick, sweep, charge move, repeat : Juno
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      If you play him in versus AI, you'll see he doesn't actually cheat, argg, rage++ : shirif
      • hehe : shirif
  • He's fucking Dr. Manhattan. How do you stop a walking nuclear bomb? : TwiLyght
  • Closest I've been in a long long long time : chazums
  • tru dat. the difficulty gradually increases until it skyrockets for this dude. not to say he is impossi... : threeup
  • I was so frustrated with this match when I finally did manage to beat him I stopped playing....I hated SF... : Gojirah
  • No question. : Ebu
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    hahaha I just experienced this last night. I just kept yelling HOW! HOW!?! : hirosushima
    • LOL! Totally. No other boss in video game history has had me talking out loud to myself quite as much as ... : etherealrhythm
• Ghouls N Ghosts : Head Rush
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  You've obviously never played Call of Grenades 4, Modern Grenadefare. : sreyes22
  • I don't get a lot of grenade deaths because I'm awesome and grenade the fuckers first. : ejectorpod
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    The answer to this is the SAW. : Kolpath
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      You misspelled the RPD. : deject
      • Always loved the SAW, not sure why. Just feels faster when aimed at the right places. : Kolpath
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  Breakdown on xbox. I love the game but I got stuck at some point where your in a room where those bad guy... : QMS|superdave
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    Was that the "White Room" ? Many people stopped there. : Bull
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      not sure, its been like 5 years or so since then. been meaning to give it another chance. : QMS|superdave
      • The man speaks true, it was definitely that last wave of enemies room. I was playing the game on hard, an... : MrBig0
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  Street Fighter IV. Goddamn cheap-ass Ken flowcharting motherfuckers. HATERAGEFURY! : Rehevkor
  • Once you get better at the game, scrubs like that are worthless and don't do a thing to you. : Link.
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  You need to hit the Y button and then pick your spawn. Pick one away from all the action and sneak in ni... : FormerHPB
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    It doesn't help when there's three guys on my carrier and that's the only flag we have left :( : Majuju
    • seriously when does this game get fun? I always get put onto the team with two less players and a 500-po... : Majuju
• I've never thrown a controller in fury, but last night Company of Heroes got me pretty pissed off. The b... : Rag and Bone Man
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  I've never had controller rage or anything like that. I am a very calm person. It does sort of annoy me t... : jane911
  • the race level in Mafia had me very angry, lol. It is still my favorite game to date though. : jane911
  • I agree, whenever I accidentally break something (normally by rage throwing) afterward I ask myself wtf w... : DM7
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  The last game that made me angry was Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. It really was even a hard part o... : DM7
  • walk-throughs are pretty much the only way I can get through epic, 40+ hour games nowadays. Back in the d... : Cihte
  • I've been stuck on water temple for over a year. Reason I have picked it up again. It happened in Ocarina... : lacker
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  I have had plenty of ragequit moments in games, but I've never thrown a controller. But one time I induc... : riptyde
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    hahahahaha, fucking awesome. I punched my cousin pretty hard once when I was, like, six because he made ... : Majuju
    • It was pretty awesome. I was Chun Li, he was Guile. He was pwning me with some major Guile Cheese. He : riptyde
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  Pyro users in TF2 make me want to punch my keyboard :( : atom519
  • +forward;+attack : frib
• Anything on a Console. Heck, I was just playing Mario 2 in my virtual console and I wanted to throw th... : hawke
• NFL Blitz. : orgcaptainnemo
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  Mega Man 9 was awful. Also, having to view each cut scene over and over again in Gears Of War 1 was fair... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I only managed to down like 3 bosses before rage quitting Mega Man 9. : MuteMode
• Not throwing a controller but pounding my desk when leading a WoW raid. : Chod
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  Ninja Gaiden : punchdog
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    Ninja Gaiden 2, too. : umcpwintermute
    • I finished Ninja Gaiden, but completely gave up on Ninja Gaiden 2. There's absolutely no reason, in this ... : nakedsavage
  • My vote goes here. : the_burd
  • This one did it to me. Those fucking black ninjas. And yayaya, all you have to do is block, roll and at... : stump
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  Tiger Woods on the 360. The version where the wireless controller was extra sensitive for your swings. ... : On the Brane
  • Yeah TW has caused me to drop my controller. across the room. : jvox
• RA3 : dopeman
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  ninja gaiden. bounced that fucker right off my sony glass TV. if I did that now, my plasma would be des... : Downforce
  • Year that game brought out the tourettes in me :( : ihya
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  I cracked a 360 controller throwing it on the floor when I played through The Force Unleashed. That fucki... : thetangent
  • That game was pretty irritating : Begawkiness
• Puzzle Quest. Fucking bullshit AI. : hawkeye
• The first and last time I've thrown a controller in years was during Super Smash Bros. Melee fight with a... : slax0r
• Too many to list. Most recently, probably Red Faction 3. I don't really whip them around anymore, but god... : Entity
• a friend of mine went through about a mouse a month during the whole time he played QWTF from throwing th... : Old_Fart
• http://www.giantbomb.com/news/what-happened-while-playing-prototype/1424/ : rudds
• COD4 gave me PTSD from all the fucking dogs it had. : Sailor of Fortune
• The boss battles in Guitar Hero 3. Rage quit many times. : silent77
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  Wii sports resort fencing is getting me close. The stupid thing drifts every 10 slashes, about, and you h... : jcupitt
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    Have you tried turning off "sensor bar assist" in the game's setting menu? It should not go off calibrati... : AlvinKlein
    • oh interesting, I'll try this : jcupitt
• ninja gaiden black : HisKillSkill
• cod4 is the only game i've rage quit. if you had video of me playing that it would be 8 hours of swearing... : re4ctor
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  Psychonauts. The Meat Circus. Enough said. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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    (that's PC though) : GreatGooglyMoogly
    • or Xbox, and maybe PS2. That was a shit awful part of the game though. : Finchypoo
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  World of Warcraft : During S3 of Arena I was pushing 2000 for the shoulders with my only IRL friend that ... : SniperWolf22
  • I've played a lot of games and never have I been filled with as much rage as I was after competing in WoW... : ColdbringeR
  • I remember that era and I was the Paladin in a war/pal pairing (though we really sucked). Frost mages can... : action wombmate
• I haven't gotten like that with a game since I was a kid. And back then games were actually hard. : Mr. Goodwrench
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  Prince of Persia (first one) ... got pissed, tossed it to the side, fell onto the floor and broke a knob,... : ghost hacker
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    How odd, I really loved that game and found the gameplay satisfying and in no way unpleasant... Now the s... : ihya
    • WAIT SORRY>..... It was God of War ...... i had to climb a ladder a baddie was on top of it, but as soon ... : ghost hacker
• Battletoads : indosauros
• Silent Hill 5 and Lost Planet developers can all die in a fire. Both suffer from the same utterly flawed ... : ihya
• I've probably made you do that then, because there is nothing I enjoy more than jumping in a tank and spa... : Drewus
• Playing some rainbow six or related games back in 2001 or 2002 at a LAN party, playing on some giant ass ... : Omning
• Battletoads, Super Monkey Ball, Mega Man 9... : Grumbeld
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  Any game where my only save leaves me with no other option but to die. : focusdaily
  • Dear god why did I quicksave here?! : Admiral Crunch
• You ever throw a controler in my presence and you're going down with it. : m0rfus
• The last time I wanted to/almost chucked a controller was playing the Ghostbusters game, when trying to s : RevRaven
• lately, Resistance 2 : eforce98
• Burnout Paradise made me crack (and break) a PS3 controller. : warcrow

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• I really hope it's a fun game. Visually, it looks great. : guido anchovy
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  i hope i'll be able to run it :( : ass-street
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    hell if the 360 can run it I would think it wouldn't be too hard on a PC. Unless its a bad 'port' from ... : .frame
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      Halo ran smooth on the Xbox, but ran like a crippled dog on the PC. : code-e255
      • That was related to Gearbox upping the complexity of the shaders to make the game look better, not the Xb... : LoioshDwaggie
    • i guess i just want to run it at max capacity uber graphics mode but we'll see...as long as i can run it ... : ass-street
    • that's a mistaken assumption, especially with the variance in PC hardware. It doesn't necessarily have to... : derelict515
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  It's too bad we'll have to wait for a 3rd party developer to license that engine and make a game that has... : dante2010
  • I agree, this game is no fun, the pictures on teh screen dont move or anything 4/10. : nodebug
  • How can you possibly know this before the game is released? : thecatinthehat
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    yeah, fuck those faggots for making a game with no storyline that is no fun to play which hasn't actually... : Drewus
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      Ya ya... I'm just going by history. Id games are great tech, but average games at best. Why should this... : dante2010
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        I agree completely. Back when id was one of the limited few devs releasing FPS' yes, their games were aw... : dedgecko
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          yeah same here. It sounds harsh but I haven't seen anything from them that makes me think they can make s... : 60days
          • I would like to maintain that it will probably deliver a good amount of fun upon release (+ eventual patc... : focusdaily
  • I have enjoyed every id game I've played except for maybe Quake2 but even that wasn't too terrible. : .frame
  • How was your hands-on time with the game? : ColoradoCNC
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  that's prob the best skybox I've ever seen in a game. This is looking great : grabbie
  • agreed. the sky looks amazing. almost too good, to the point where it clashes with the surroundings. : jvox
  • I really want to see that in motion, if it's not animated it's not impressive at all : OrkO
  • That's what caught my eye too, looks like a photograph. : ShekkyBoy
• wow O_O : Shadowdane
• shit this looks awesome. I'm going to have to upgrade my video card before this comes out :( : pukerat
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  Two words for ya: Fallout 4 in 2014. : baron calamity
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    ok, that is more than two words. I ment to write just Fallout Four. That engine looks like it was made fo... : baron calamity
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      shoulda said 'four words for ya fallout four in o-fourteen' has a nice ring to it. : papaskot
      • Awesome! : baron calamity
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      it's possible Fallout New Vegas could be using the engine already : grabbie
      • I doubt it since they are talking about New Vegas coming out next year. (but I bet it will be pushed to 2... : baron calamity
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    Oh god that would be awesome... and I agree this engine looks like it is made for the Fallout series. : Shadowdane
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      yes plz so bethesda can finally make a game with animations that are worth a damn. : X-GOUKI
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        Using a better engine isn't going to make their animators any less of an embarrassment. : Arceihn
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          your argument is that the quality of animations is 100% up to the animators and not affected by the tech?... : derelict515
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            Hmm. Well, how so? Bethesda's animations have always been very stiff and lacking in character. I wouldn't... : Arceihn
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              technology absolutely affects what quality of animation you're capable of (as does the animators skills o... : derelict515
              • I agree with you that the animation system can play a part, but in the case of Bethesda's games, I think ... : thecray
• Holy crap! I hope it looks like that! The videos made it look worse then this, with that art style. : Ziz
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  Thanks! For some reason they look kind of blurry, maybe due to PDF compression? : matthaeus
  • Yeah, those aren't really any higher res they are just enlarged versions of the ones in the PDF. So same... : mrwolf710
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  I just noticed this "the PC version has 'heavy screen tearing". I know they are only talking about the c... : .frame
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    Can't they just turn on vsync? Or am I missing something about tech 5? : AgentPothead
    • Not sure... "The work remaining is getting it locked so there's never a dropped frame or a tear" : .frame
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      i wonder why they haven't thought of that. maybe you should send an e-mail to carmack. : dromo5
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        Which is why I asked maybe I'm missing something about tech 5? For 99% of games if there is heavy screen ... : AgentPothead
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          They probably just saw screen tearing on the demo machine and reported it. I wouldn't read too much into ... : Conan
          • Yeah I agree, you turn that on near the end of development, otherwise variation in framerate gets masked,... : jcupitt
  • The second half of that paragraph, he says that their goal is to keep pushing it until it never drops bel... : jet-poop
• The shack's picture viewer sucks. : WhatIsThisFor
• These remind me of Full Throttle. Not because of the wasteland feel, but because of the overcast sky. For... : not work safe
• it looks great but i'm afraid it's going to be all "just scenery".. you're not able to leave the designat... : industro
• quality wise, it looks like pre-rendered cut-scene material from less than 8 years ago! : vassili_zaitsev
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  Anybody else get the impression that screenshot #2 shows an RC car? Something about the perspective thro... : fishbone
  • The signage on the left in the fifth image, too: http://i29.tinypic.com/14eawkx.jpg And that fan mad... : cerealSAM2
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    There's a shot of the actual RC cars in the game in the German PC Games article. : jet-poop
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      Oh, so it is a tiny little RC car? That makes more sense. : fishbone
      • No, the car in that shot is the actual buggy the player drives across the wastes or in races (I think). T... : jet-poop
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  no one has said anything about the twins? for all the texture uniqueness, they are going to reuse the npc... : BauriceMastard
  • well, they're reversed, for one. And there are three other characters in the image. Could be they're ... : cerealSAM2
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  Haha what. It's like looking out the fucking window. I weep for my computer, but I love it. : Salad Sammich
  • The thing is that you computer will probably play it quite fine. This is running at 60Hz on a 360. : uncleanmonkey
• That looks pretty awesome. They need to make one of the vehicles you can drive be a gigantic badass chopp... : Teiresias
• Holy hell : Jiven
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  Ugh, the one with the dude walking? What's the deal with the shadow from the building being a soft shadow... : Rooster Cockburn
  • Quake 3 lighting outside : peter
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    according to that forum the RAGE engine uses baked lighting. meaning not real-time. so building shadows w... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      Weak sauce. I suppose it makes for nicer visuals, but sounds like the engine limits some of the game's po... : Rooster Cockburn
      • They designed the engine based on the game's needs, so no. : OverloadUT
      • Never seemed to bother people playing Source games. : capt tripps
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        how so? You think a first person shooter / racer / whatever the fuck this game is needs a dynamic day / n... : thecray
        • Destructible would be neat... If you have two different system you could easily tell breakable stuff apar... : uncleanmonkey
    • You could still have a light cycle by baking shadow for various times of day and interpolating between th... : Agrona
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  honestly... not so impressed. I thought there was supposed to be some deep amount of uniqueness to how th... : thebigbeefsandwich
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    Did you see anything repeat? : Rich McNinch
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      This might be true but honestly do you pay that much attention in most games? There are simple psychologi... : spdon
      • The real difference comes from the fact that in these screenshots the textures and geometry "line up", wh... : uncleanmonkey
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      the underlying textures still repeat actually. it looks any modern game to me. : thebigbeefsandwich
      • No they don't. They might use repeating textures as a base, purely as an artist shortcut, but they can do... : uncleanmonkey
  • Free up designers time so they focus on the other stuff you mention. : Conan
  • A game in the desert looking like a whole bunch of rocks? You don't say. : capt tripps
• The terrain looks terrible, its so blocky on every edge. Not impressed, the textures are high res, but i... : manlyman
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  As technically impressive as i'm sure it all is its a shame to see a game developer using tech where the ... : disembodied potato
  • Maybe you're thinking of BRUTAL LEGEND? : CrustaR
  • Raven Software should pick up the ball. : Rag and Bone Man
  • id is rather unimaginative in their environments, but hey at least we get some neat tech out of it : fishbone
  • an avatar game would be pretty cool : GloriousCow
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  The textures look great but man the amount of artist work hours thats gotta take to make all that detail ... : johnlocks
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    It looks like it would take them ~5 or 6 years to make all that. We'll never see this game! Oh, wait a ... : CrustaR
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      Ya I know games take that long anyways alot of times. But I was thinking more along the money line. Usua... : johnlocks
      • Yeah, they have to make insanely high resolution textures. Their art team must be huge. : CrustaR
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    I think if the tech/tools could get to the point where artists could essentially just paint the world vs ... : Wombat Woo
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      isn't that exactly what they are doing here? : mwasher
      • it is. : thecray
  • The thing is, having to deal with texture budgets, and repeating textures etc. takes up so much time that... : uncleanmonkey
  • outsourcing! I have no idea, actually, but it seems as good a place as any : Agrona

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• Devildriver's new one : PointlesS76
• The Absence : preacher
• Amon Amarth only gets better with their age, and like PointlesS76 said the new DD album is "good" but (IM... : Big Luke
• That's an eclectic middle trio for the surroundings. Anyway, today I'm recommending The Streets - A Gr... : Deathlove
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  From Mars to Sirius by Gojira http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TDBN90?ie=UTF8&tag=isthisblog-20&li... : liqker
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    Got it already! :) : skinlab133
    • How about... Alien by Strapping Young Lad ? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VII7AG?ie=UTF8&tag=is... : liqker
• Will Haven - El Diablo http://www.amazon.com/El-Diablo-Explicit/dp/B001610Z7K/ : dognose
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  at the gates - slaughter of the soul (if you don't have it for some reason) : khaosman
  • Get it!!! : khaosman
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  The latest Royksopp : kainen1
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    http://www.monstunes.com/2009/05/royksopp-the-girl-and-the-robot/ : Vantage
    • yeah dude that's my favorite song of theirs actually. : kainen1
• NeedToBreathe sounds somewhat similar to Kings of Leon. Maybe try them... or not... whatever : samekh
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  You should buy some Opeth! http://www.monstunes.com/2009/04/opeth-ghost-of-perdition/ : Vantage
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    Yep got it. Opeth is pretty great. : skinlab133
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      Watershed is a amazing album. : freakynipples69
      • This is like trading baseball cards. Got it. : skinlab133
  • I sent you a fluffy SM about it but still posting here - your site is amazing. : kainen1
• Brand New's Devil and God are Raging Inside of me. This album is much less punk than you might think. : mrsparil
• http://www.amazon.com/IV-Fucking-Champs/dp/B00004Z3YF : ass-street
• The new Wolves in the Throne Room is only $5 if you like ambient black metal, and I also saw one of The S... : wasylm
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  For Genesis, if they have the Turn it On Again / greatest hits album, I'd snag that. It has all the good... : jingletard
  • Yeah, I'm more into the Gabriel/very early Collins era stuff. : skinlab133
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  Equilibrium - Sagas Ihsahn - Angl Nachtmystium - Assassins Psycroptic - (ob)servant Suidakra - Crogac... : CyCo_PL
  • Oh, and Wintersun. Probably my favorite band ever. : CyCo_PL
• Gorod - Process of a New Decline. Pretty good, reminds me of Arsis in some ways. : megarust32
• Mastodon if you haven't picked it up yet. Fantastic album : melkore
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  dredg. they need your support! or better yet, portugal. the man. damn, just discovered them a couple we... : botch
  • I'm digging this Portugal. The Man : skinlab133
• In Flames - Whoracle. Stay away from their new shit though. It's awful. : -hyroth-
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  Amon Amarth. Get Versus the World if you can : Mr. Goodwrench
  • Got it! : skinlab133
• Slough Feg : Fayk
• August Burns Red, Divine Heresy, Anterior, Blood Runs Black, to name a few... : legato17
• The new Dream Theater isn't bad. Pretty heavy for the most part. : freakynipples69
• KALMAH \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ : ninjase

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  Yes? Why wouldn't it be? : JohnnyRey
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    I have vegan friends that just think meat itself is gross. : xwer
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      He said "assuming you didn't eat meat for ethical reasons". : JohnnyRey
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        would ethical objections apply to lab meat? : deadfish
        • No, which was my entire point. Why would they have a problem eating lab grown meat, where no animals were... : JohnnyRey
      • I know, they don't like it because of its texture or whatever. No because it was a living thing. : xwer
    • LOL'ed! That they do. : mace
    • psychological. : Fayk
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    maybe the lab workers are treated unfairly : dirge23
    • nice. : shwortdogg
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  http://translationparty.com/tp/#429737 : hashd
  • LOL : thecatinthehat
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    It has spoken. : humbleone
    • this thing is going to be used for a long time now /o\ : humbleone
  • Hahaha, yum : thetangent
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    We have to eat vegetarians then. This is the best option. : thrallie200
    • They are meat and according to them have been eating healthy IE free range cows and chickens! : hashd
• It's all good until we find out it's made of Mudokon. : pigvomit
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  "In-vitro meat is made from samples of animals conventionally slaughtered." umm : Chandler55
  • It creates the opportunity for a pork christ. It would be the last pig to ever be slaughtered! until ke : Amadan
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    I guess if they take samples from slaughtered animals, there's still an argument against eating clonemeat... : focusdaily
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      I don't see why you'd have to take the samples from a slaughtered animal. They probably do for cost, but ... : Conan
      • IT'S NOT CONSENSUAL!!! : focusdaily
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  What does our resident vegan Dognose think? : spiffymc
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    I ain't eatin' the shit : dognose
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      what if it was like a corn plant but chicken nuggets were inside? : papaskot
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        or wait, howabout a big ol stir fry chicken plate from a star trek replicator? : papaskot
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          I am happy with soy and vegetable :/ : dognose
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            so you'd get soy and vegetable plate from a star trek replicator? : papaskot
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              If the replicator operator was Asian, yes. : dognose
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                What if they were Mexican? : hashd
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                  That's fine, also Indian or Ethiopian. : dognose
                  • what if it was a cracka ass cracka, except it was also duke nukem : ninjase
              • the replicator operator is you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD4EVXkfe0w : papaskot
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• Dead Rising? : Wombat Woo
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    • Nows the time to get in on that burgeoning omni-vat industry! : Dunwich
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  What would taste like? : Maddog_Delphi97
  • The snausages would taste like snausages? : thetangent
• Don't like the taste which is why I'm a vegetarian in the first place (odd I know) : locater16
• the real question is, if they can make meat grown tofu, would carnivores eat it????????????? : ninjase

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• Ebert is the man. : Rehevkor
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  As a kid who grew up with G.I. Joe, I'm still going to see the movie today. : The Key
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    The GI Joe of your childhood would kick your ass for going to see this movie. : porp
    • To put this into context, I avoid the new Terminator movie like the plague, but it seems Hollywood is goi... : The Key
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      Are you kidding? Those trailers would have looked AMAZING to me as a kid. I saw so many bad action movies... : byorn
      • The GI JOE characters of the 80s would use all of their 3 and 3/4 inch might to kick your ass for going t... : porp
      • I think the movie looks like a fun time based on the trailers, but I suspect the violent and mature conte... : focusdaily
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    I grew up with it too, and even fashioned parachutes out of string and sandwich baggies so we could throw... : Rooster Cockburn
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      That's my biggest problem with it, I understand that it needed some modernization but the suits stuff jus... : WhatIsThisFor
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        the suits are only in the movie for one scene and that scene was actually pretty well done from an action... : stgdz
        • That's good to hear. : WhatIsThisFor
    • it was always a bitch when you the parachutes actually worked and they would get caught in the tree next ... : metalremains
    • Exactly. : MoreVespeneGas
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      Actually, I'd argue it is absolutely GI Joe - just maybe not the GI Joe adult fans wanted. The absurd und... : Conan
      • Oh, and the drafthouse showing was awesome. The owner dressed up as Cobra Commander and held a costume co... : Conan
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        and your argument would be WRONG : MoreVespeneGas
        • Have you even seen it yet? : Conan
  • I just got back, and I really enjoyed it. I mainly went for Scarlett's boobs and the Baroness's push-up ... : o0JediBeavis0o
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  If anything it looks like a good action movie. : thrallie200
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    No, it doesn't. : Nitrium
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      best action movie since Stealth! : dirge23
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        Did you actually see Stealth. The end was basically BF2. It was awesome. : hawke
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          no, but i saw the trailer so many times i feel like i saw it : dirge23
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            the trailers are like 1000x better than the movie. seriously, whatever you've imagined that movie is abo... : mikecyb
            • good, because i'm never going to see it if i can possibly avoid it : dirge23
          • the ending is completely different than what the trailers would lead you to believe. : gmd
        • Yea, i really enjoyed that movie also. I thought it would be a cg fuck fest, when it was just basically a... : MrBig0
      • That's like saying it's the best case of diarrhea since the taco shits of '05. : Fred Garvin
  • I saw it last night. It was incredibly retarded, but I can't say it wasn't entertaining. : Conan
  • No, it looks like a terrible action movie that might have sufficient boom to be entertaining anyway. : Arcanum
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  The best line in that entire article: I lament the 105,000,000 hours of life that North Americans have lo : sgtsanity
  • Heh. I've made my point about out of touch critics before, no need to redo it. I find Moore's comments am... : LoioshDwaggie
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  critics panned Speed Racer too, but that movie was pure visual orgasm. : Slowtreme
  • I really liked that one too. and I thought it actually stayed as true to the source stuff as you possibl... : hamachi
  • Agreed. Not great storytelling, but the visuals were amazing. (of course it is SPEED RACER, so my expecta... : byorn
  • I still try to defend this movie to people when I'm caught watching it by myself. : hiloopy
  • I don't understand the hate this movie got. I can't see a Speed Racer movie turning out any different th... : Lionhart32935
  • speed racer was an absolutely perfect movie for what it was trying to be. : dromo5
  • yeah by the time I actually watched it, and I put it off for a long time because of the chatter about it,... : moe6
  • it certainly wasn't as bad as the awful reviews led me to expect : dirge23
  • Visually it was stunning. As a movie it was about as deep as the cartoon. : Fred Garvin
  • word. a bunch of assholes who probably knew dick-all about speed racer in the first place went and saw i... : proclone1
  • It was actually a pretty good family movie. : exigence7
  • I never watched Speed Racer as a kid. I thought the movie was bad. I plan to see it again some time while... : MrBig0
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  This is so fucking obvious. Ebert's still a douche. : loboca
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    for doing his job? Paramount are the douches for trying to manipulate the media. yes it's obvious they ha... : thebigbeefsandwich
    • Yeah, the whole movie preview junket system is as sleazy as the "come to our game studio" previews. : Fred Garvin
  • Still because you can't read, right? : omnova
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  How about addressing that large gap between critics and movie goers? I'd like to see him respond to that... : exigence7
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    Movie goers don't appreciate good film making. That's the gap. : Wisp!
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      You could just as easily say that critics don't appreciate fun film making. Saying what amounts to "th... : exigence7
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        it is ok to have expectations for fun things and not just see pretty lights blink on a screen for an hour... : Mr.SEX
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          You are just repeating what Wisp said. The argument you two have boils down to "Critics are better, movi... : exigence7
          • Blinky lights are unrefined.There is nothing intelligent about it. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. : terath
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            i am actually not saying "critics are better, movie-goers are not", at least not in the sense that you ar... : Mr.SEX
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              It's so fucked up how popular it's become to label anyone with a vast amount of knowledge on a subject as... : NastyJack
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                well that's because a lot of dudes do act elitist! so i can see where it comes from but it's irresponsib... : Mr.SEX
                • Well of course there are elitists but jesus, when you get labeled that for not liking a shitty movie base... : NastyJack
                • To be fair, I never singled out Ebert, and I don't find him to be all that bad. And I don't think that j... : exigence7
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              What we are talking about is not science, nor football, nor racecar drivers. Those are things where ther... : exigence7
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                Last time we had this thread I mentioned that what I would like to see is a federated and scored review a... : LoioshDwaggie
                • Here we go: Main Point: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20344640#itemanchor_20344640 Critical opi... : LoioshDwaggie
              • He's better than who? He's giving his own opinion, the opinion of one Roger Ebert. I guess you could say ... : NastyJack
              • Critics aren't in the business of estimating how much enjoyment people will get from a movie. In fact, th... : uncleanmonkey
      • they're purposeful in their criticism. they're looking for stuff of a certain cultural significance or ex... : thebigbeefsandwich
      • You're right, Guide Michelin stars for McDonalds I say! : uncleanmonkey
    • What purpose is there in mainstream critics appreciating something that mainsteam movie-goers don't? : Zek
    • You've got that backwards. Move goers *CAN* appreciate good film making, but GI Joe is not good film maki... : Vincent Grayson
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    Movie goers are morons. Critics are not. Addressed. : jason bergman
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      Who's the bigger moron: the movie goer who enjoys a movie that is lacking in deep meaning / story develop... : exigence7
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        You're not going to get much traction out of debate on that subject here. Some people just like feeling l... : LoioshDwaggie
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          You're right. For some reason I can't stop myself arguing about it though. : exigence7
          • I don't bother except to express my understanding for fellows who feel the same way. : LoioshDwaggie
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          Yes, the reason people dislike Transformers 2 is because they like to feel special. It has nothing to do ... : uncleanmonkey
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            Where is the bottom line for these people? Does a movie have to be a full on shot of shit coming out of a... : NastyJack
            • You know, I got rather tired of this misinterpretation last time as well. I am not speaking specifically ... : LoioshDwaggie
      • I don't understand what the alternative is. Should a critic always base his opinions (that's all a review... : NastyJack
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        The movie goer who expects a critic not to criticise a movie. Movie critics do their job and get paid for... : terath
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          The alternative is to say "I think this type of people will enjoy this movie and I think this type of peo... : exigence7
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            there are plenty of action/vistual effect-driven movies that are well reviewed. I think the majority of ... : mikecyb
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              I wonder what the next movie will be when we rehash this all over again :D : Downforce
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                I dunno but I'm getting pretty tired of this "ELITISTS VS. DROOLING MORONS" shit that pops up for every f... : mikecyb
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                  I brought in donuts today :D : Downforce
                  • I want a donut :( : mikecyb
                • Maybe you should take the rest of the day off... : Bruzilla
          • If elitist is apprciating advances in an area and some intelligence, then I'm elitist too. Seriously, stu... : terath
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            A reviewer is a viewer with an opinion. That's all they are. You need to understand that. Their job isn't : NastyJack
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              Reviewing games professionally for nine years has taught me that some people can't handle media criticism... : rudds
              • Not only that but exigence7 has actually said repeatedly that the critics job is to preemptively agree wi... : NastyJack
          • Why does this matter? The average American will go see a movie with explosions and tits, regardless of wh... : Link.
          • Watch hundreds of movies in a year and you'll see your taste gets refined real quick. Ebert's job (or : action wombmate
      • So the critic's job is to deliver only what the audience expects and wants to hear? Are you serious? : rudds
      • I think you just confused advertising executive with critic. : spdon
      • The "audience" doesn't care about critics, but if you appoint the people who liked Transformers 2 as movi... : uncleanmonkey
    • jason, which one are you??? : CrustaR
    • only gourmands can enjoy food, only movie buffs can enjoy movies, only lit nerds can enjoy novels, and on... : DonkeyPopsicle
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Critic's jobs are to point out flaws. A glowing review, or even a review of "it's a good movie, now a was... : Slowtreme
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      Thank you for having a good argument as a response. : exigence7
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        A recent post by Ebert addresses the very issue you raised - http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/07/i_am : ShekkyBoy
        • That's interesting because I find the opposite. Why in this society are the intelligent vilified? I fin... : exigence7
      • Producers, directors, and actors don't set out to make a shitty movie, at least I don't think so. At some... : Slowtreme
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      Another point too is that Movie critics don't divide films into categories. You have your entertaining b... : SolrFlare
      • If the critic is any good, they know not to do this. Roger Ebert will rate movies based on how good they... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      • The idea that critics can't "enjoy a movie for what it is" is total bullshit and little-guy elitism. Ebe : action wombmate
  • He has, countless times, if you'd bother to read any of his essays and shit. : action wombmate
  • Here ya go: http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/07/i_am_a_brainiac.html : bipolar
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  I'm confused - do any of you honestly expect this movie to be any good? It looked like garbage from the f... : avatar_58
  • hehe just turn ur brain off it will b good : filtersweep
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    that's the key word: EXPECT. do folks expect shawshank redemption character dialogue and advancement? is : Downforce
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      Gee I don't know, when I go to the movies I expect to enjoy it. If it's a steaming pile of horseshit I te... : avatar_58
      • apparently transformers 2 was enjoyable enough. what do you personally expect from GI Joe? or is that mov... : Downforce
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      The Shawshank fallacy: (def) Stating that the Shawshank redemption had interesting character development ... : spdon
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        it's the top IMDB movie of all time. (the user voted list) ergo, it had superior character development an : Downforce
        • Popularity != quality. I probably prefer McDonalds food to fois gras at an expensive restaurant, but t... : uncleanmonkey
      • You're saying that it's a fallacy that Shawshank had interesting character development? We must have seen... : nakedsavage
  • I expect it to be extremely cheese with robot ninjas. : walker270
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  Every time I read one of Ebert's opinion pieces the whole thing comes across as an old crotchety man yell... : Bruzilla
  • I wish things were like they were "back in the day". I'm not exactly celebrating that we've entered the a... : NastyJack
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    http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/11/5657.ars : Godhatesfatpeople
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      I remember that essay. I lost a lot of respect for him after that. Actually I was referring to this com : Bruzilla
      • oh, I never saw that! :o : Godhatesfatpeople
      • I suspect it was more like "video games are teaching kids to enjoy crap like GI Joe instead of good movie... : Arcanum
  • Except Ebert is usually correct and he's a brilliant writer, so I can excuse that. : Link.
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    I think he has somewhat of a point when he trashes movies like this, and Transformers 2. The movies defin... : nakedsavage
    • I think that fewer and fewer of the latter type of movies are being produced too =( : spiffymc
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  So if "American movie-going is entering into a Dark Age" like Ebert says, what can be done about it besid... : SigmaDraconis
  • I think that's a bit hasty. I mean, yes, so we had a bad Terminator and stupid TF/GI Joe movies this summ... : Conan
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  I have no clue how you guys can care so much about reviews. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • people like to have their tastes validated. : xxiv
  • So that you do not waste your time/money on a terrible movie? : TreMetal
  • I don't take reviews to such heart that I let them make concrete decisions on movies that I'm considering... : SigmaDraconis
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  Wouldn't Siskel and Ebert have agreed more often if reputable critics were more than assholes paid to tel... : capt tripps
  • I think it is safe to say that both of them probably would have given GI Joe thumbs down. : TreMetal
• + teh funnay that Ebert has resorted to using the word fanboy. : Endymion_

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  That's a stupid video : boomstickah
  • it's because you're black, isn't it? : thekidd
  • Boomstickah the day has finally come dude. I played a game of War 3 RoC with someone tonight who is a bi... : abrasion
• sho iz good : Slowtreme
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  I saw this elsewhere yesterday. It makes an entirely valid point although the irony is Nas himself could ... : Attica Blue
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    how is it racism's fault that the black (hardly just the black community too with how mainstream hiphop i... : papaskot
    • well this applies only to african american's, not "blacks" fresh immigrant africans and other "blacks"... : snidely sid
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      Is this a serious question? On the assumption that it is, I'll begin by saying black people treat each : Attica Blue
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        I don't know about the poor self-esteem angle, but if nothing else racism is definitely responsible for ... : Zek
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          right, i agre with you zek. originally caused by. i dont agree with behave badly because they don't lik : papaskot
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            Goddamn, you're ignorant. You haven't a clue what you're talking about. I literally have no idea where to... : Attica Blue
            • watching TV shows produced by kelsey grammer ? : qwpeoriu
            • watching Amistad on repeat? : Danny5225
            • at some point in time you are going to have to stop using the race card for everything. : gmd
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              You're making a pretty BOLD statement there buddy. I don't think there's one black person I know that wo... : shwortdogg
              • I really doubt it's a very conscious kind of self loathing and self view. FWIW, though, I am a black p... : Modica Sol Solis
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                As a black man, let me let you in on a little secret: There is about ... ZERO chance that a black person : Attica Blue
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                  If you and you talk to your friends about how you hate being black, that really sounds like a personal pr... : shwortdogg
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                    We're having a discussion in a sociological context. I don't know if you've heard of those. But you reall... : Attica Blue
                    • Alright guy, you win. I'm not even going to waste my time on your theories any more. : shwortdogg
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                Tell me why many black men prefer lighter skinned black women? Or why a lighter skinned person looks dow... : chuck577
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                  WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE GO TANNING? : shwortdogg
                  • omg white women are attracted to tan men! That means they hate themselves for being white! It all makes... : bRAINsick
            • strictly speaking that's a fairly weak induction. : DonkeyPopsicle
            • You do realize, however, that making the claim that all white people hate blacks (even when made tangenti... : ColoradoCNC
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            It's probably more something ingrained in the culture, not taught to each black person by some mean white : DinK
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              This is EXACTLY what I'm saying. Some people are having a mysteriously difficult time getting it. But I s : Attica Blue
              • I think a lot of people are highly resistant to the idea because they associate it with people wanting st... : DinK
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        Is that for real? Now the reason black people commit crimes is because of racism? Where does accountabili... : Phreakin
        • Why are you pretending to be so unsophisticated as to not understand the point? A crime is still a crime : Attica Blue
        • What about all of the other people of each race who grow up in a shitty environment and make something ou : ColoradoCNC
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        a reasonable explanation, but it doesn't jive with the empirical literature that shows how "acting" white... : DonkeyPopsicle
        • I don't like these kind of threads because they end up becoming rude, but I will add in a 2nd-hand anecdo... : LoioshDwaggie
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          Yes, it does. In fact, blacks shunning education--one of the key pursuits that would help them out of the... : Attica Blue
          • This is one of the best breakdowns of this concept that I have read. : MaJeStu
          • "White society" has plenty of obnoxious characteristics, and I can see why some of them might be particul... : FlatlineDixay
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            then you've either got a theory of everything or a theory of nothing. If you simultaneously say that rac : DonkeyPopsicle
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              This is a useless and harmful post. The idea that anybody can arrive at an overriding theory explaining e... : FlatlineDixay
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                what? I didn't say he had to produce a theory that explained everything. But you can't just apply it to... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                  There are going to be contradictory examples no matter how much detail he provides. It quickly becomes a ... : FlatlineDixay
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                    but such generalizations aren't helpful at all and really can't even pass judgment on particular cases. ... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                      And here we are again, demanding a theory of everything that will finally enable us to solve racism. : FlatlineDixay
                      • I think he just wants the reasoning to be consistent. : bRAINsick
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                        no, I'm saying that if it is to be an explanation at all, it needs to make consistent predictions. If it... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                          Then you're asking human beings to be predictable like mechanical devices. That's not how it works in the... : FlatlineDixay
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                            actually, that is how it works in the social sciences. You take independent variables and then establish : DonkeyPopsicle
                            • Then we're talking about something that ends up being a matter of statistics, because you're very rarely ... : FlatlineDixay
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              Are you being intentionally daft here? Just because someone rebels against aspects of a culture doesn't m... : Attica Blue
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                I think people might be a bit more responsive to you if your attitude wasn't so abrasive. : pigvomit
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                  no way, we're all goddamned ignorant and daft and racist. : mmogger
                  • I really have a mysteriously difficult time getting it. : pigvomit
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                no. If you would have read the other posts, I'm saying that it makes inconsistent predictions therefore ... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                  You keep falling back on this "predictions" idea. I don't know what kind of predictions you're hoping for... : FlatlineDixay
                  • i'm having a hard time figuring out white people to be honest. : spectr3
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                    all explanations (in the causal sense) allow one to make predictions. Not all predictions allow one to d... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                      With human beings, you can *ask* them why they did this, that, or the other thing, and from that you can ... : FlatlineDixay
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                        except in this case asking doesn't reveal anything because it's supposed to be a subconscious loathing. ... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                          Okay, I've had enough of this whole subthread. Good luck with your predictive models. : FlatlineDixay
                          • your assigned homework: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-explanation/ : DonkeyPopsicle
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            So is that not a result of racist attitudes of the black people more than racism against them? Sounds li... : bRAINsick
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              It truly is remarkable that you have no historical conception of race in America because that's the only : Attica Blue
              • Nice assumptions, I grew up in a town that is mostly black in the South. I was discriminated against by ... : bRAINsick
      • After this thread, Attica Blue you have become my new favorite shacker : Modica Sol Solis
      • Holy crap! I thought I had seen it all, but this is hilarious. I guess some people will keep milking the... : menar003
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        So I'm curious, Attica, do you consider remarks from black celebrities such as Bill Cosby encouraging the... : ColoradoCNC
        • I'm in 100% agreement with Cosby. But he doesn't also think racism doesn't exist and doesn't have an effe : Attica Blue
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    At least some people consider Nas a good rapper, why the hell is Nick Cannon in this? : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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      his very first album was excellent. everything afterwards has been a disappointment. : spectr3
      • (i'm referring to Nas) : spectr3
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    What's the solution Attica Blue? All I hear about are the problems, and you certainly detailed them, b... : pigvomit
    • Did you notice how in Star Trek, Geordi was always taking orders from Picard? even 400 years from now rac... : gmd
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      Solution to what? To bad rap? To black people hating themselves? : Attica Blue
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        When slavery isn't a factor in how people live in modern society and in future society. : pigvomit
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          I didn't say slavery was the factor. I said racism was the factor. Those are two separate things. Slavery... : Attica Blue
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            I could have sworn you mentioned slavery as the reason we have racism, so I was talking in that regard. ... : pigvomit
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              Racism will not be a factor when whites (in general as there are plenty of non-racist whites, of course),... : Attica Blue
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                Racism will not be a factor when all races stop practicing racism. It's not just up to whites. : bRAINsick
                • THANK you. : thetangent
                • But obviously white people had to initiate it. And I think it's fair to say that there's been a lot of pr... : FlatlineDixay
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                As a white person living in LA, I have an honest question about black culture, since this can of worms ha... : krym3
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                  Yes, sadly, you're correct. As I mentioned in response to pigvomit, one of the key cultural behaviors we ... : Attica Blue
                  • You completely miss the context of what the parvenu were and why they were "considered" showy and rich by... : trove
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                    What would your opinion be to the following thought: Do you think that the conventional education system... : krym3
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                      Not sure what you're referring to by "cultural divide in information and education." There is no white : Attica Blue
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                        Romans were taking white slaves long before they took black slaves. To say that racism enabled the ratio... : bRAINsick
                        • Good Lord, what are you talking about now? I'm referring specifically to the rationale for European-Afric... : Attica Blue
                        • the and a are different words. : vigilante
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                        There would be no need to add the additional information of "white." This is just the point i was po... : krym3
                        • Yeah, if the world was already equal then you'd be correct. There would be no need for explicitly mention... : Attica Blue
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                    So are you black? Serious question. : Phreakin
                    • This perhaps explains some of your comments--i.e. you didn't read posts earlier in the thread. But yes, I... : Attica Blue
    • Some black americans are militant. Some are passive. Some say, 'grab your bootstraps and make something o... : anhero
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20584827 : thecatinthehat
  • I don't' care about black people you. : thekidd
• I was expecting this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m904SQBfCBI : baconisgod
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  When I reach page 10, I's be free. : NEX!
  • Back to page 1, new Shacker who I'm sure is an old Shacker. : Phil
• http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215545/ : ass-street
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  W.Double ya. A.Ayyeee T.Teeeee Eeeeaaarerr What's next? MELON? lol : abrasion
  • sho is good : moe6
• Read a book is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8 : twifosp
• Mainstream rap is all aimed at 14 year old girls now. What have you done kanye : Judecca
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  fucking lol. way to speak up now nas after how many years and millions of dollars earned doing the very t... : xxiv
  • he would say that he was doing it as a form of empowerment and wasn't contributing to the minstrel show n... : Mr.SEX
  • I've always gotten the vibe that Nas isn't a big fan of white people. I can't believe he's on this video... : shwortdogg
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m904SQBfCBI : bad_fish
  • Look at the hair on the right one! : Rag and Bone Man
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  rappers use the N word more than any group of people in popular media. I dont think they are helping raci... : gyokuro
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    I don't think rappers care about helping racial issues. : FlatlineDixay
    • Rappers! : NastyJack
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    In the black community there has been a fairly vigorous discussion for decades over the use by black arti... : Attica Blue
    • racist : rgoer
    • get your logic out of here Attica : atom519
    • Minstrelsy is a funny word. : focusdaily
    • I learned white boys don't get to use nigger when I was 15, smoking pot with some 20 - 25 yr old black co... : anhero
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    That's OUR word! : atom519
    • Sorry. Can you pass me that oar, N-word Jim? : Rooster Cockburn
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp05cNnsR3I : datoo
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    It's all about intent. They really just need to stop being so offended by it. : Fish_Bulb
    • Those people? : anhero
  • what's the n word? : aeg1x
• I liked the part about hip hop dying. : Boxelder
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  White mans debt is paid after we elected Obama, we can use all the racial slurs we want now. : gmd
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    i'm asking for reparations in 50 years. : xxiv
    • I am still waiting for my reparations from greece for toppling the persian empire : gmd
    • Maybe we should let blacks open casinos in predominantly black neighborhoods, as a form of reparations, t... : Rooster Cockburn
• So is this an attack on Soulja Boy? : pigvomit
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  I think this is against Soulja Boy! The lame one that came out a couple years ago. Not the awesome one wh... : Cihte
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRx2AeEDgj0 this one. man he's roofless : Cihte
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXofLK5hFQ : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  Nas clearly hasn't listened to the Ying Yang Twins : Serpico74
  • Rule #1 of edjumicated psychologists: "to explain is not to justify" : SniperWolf22
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  GJ NAS. This is what the future holds if it don't stop English more. *sigh* : anhero
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    "it's". sheesh. if you are going to make a point against ignorance, you should have some proof read for y... : anhero
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      ^^^ Irony post : invisible_kid
      • But yes I agree. : invisible_kid
  • Dialect FTW. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_linguistics : TShandy

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• If you have wireless, blame the neighbors. : ateam311
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  was it you or your dad : askedrelic
  • Honestly, it was probably my idiot of a brother. He gets caught at least once a month playing whack a mol : theangrywaffles
• just ignore it and don't download anything illegal for at least 6 months. : freakynipples69
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  someone I know got one from them also, for another piece of porno. according to the paper they're not jus... : festivalman
  • If I got one of these I'd settle that fucker so fast. Sure, it's extortion to have to pay thousands for ... : ra1n
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    My ISP didn't send us the actual complaint. Rather, it was something the ISP themselves drafted up and se... : theangrywaffles
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      First: Why a takedown notice? Was someone in your family hosting that for others? I sure hope not. Se... : ra1n
      • I would assume it was a take down notice since the file was downloaded via BitTorrent. Even if he closed ... : theangrywaffles
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      I used to send these out from an ISP ages ago when I worked there. As above just ignore it and stop your ... : even4
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        I can't imagine this is a good idea. : ra1n
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          I'm not a lawyer but I can't really see a company going after someone for a Lesbian video. And there is a... : thrallie200
          • I'm going to take my statement back. This is the united states. : thrallie200
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        I tried searching for it, but is there a statute of limitations on this thing? The complaint was filed wi... : theangrywaffles
        • Find out how much they want. There is an article posted below saying it is the cost of a porn dvd or a li... : thrallie200
        • that guy who just lost in the 675k judgement let it go for years and the suit suddenly showed up. doing n... : festivalman
• Was someone hosting it? I didn't think you got a takedown notice for downloading. Also, I thought if yo... : ra1n
• So....where's the link to the file? ;) : Fyunch Click
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  Wait, how can you get a takedown notice for downloading something? What do you take down? : ventro
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    ^^^^Correct. : ra1n
    • Take down is the wrong term. I guess I meant DMCA complaint, heh. : theangrywaffles
  • Maybe bittorent uploading? I have no clue how those laws work in the states or Canada for that matter th... : pokerman33
  • Maybe because as you are downloading you are also seeding, so they just have a blanket letter saying it? ... : invisible_kid
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    if he downloaded through bittorrent then he is sharing as he is downloading. hell, he may even still be s... : sharpie
    • Then he has already ceased and desisted. : Moonbase Commander
• Was it your mom? Also tell them to switch ISPs immediately : locater16
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  I find this funny also because I thought people were basically getting a free pass on downloading porn, d... : ra1n
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    http://torrentfreak.com/automated-legal-threats-turn-piracy-into-profit-090628/ Its just a recent thin... : theangrywaffles
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      Those settlements are pretty reasonable honestly. : trove
      • Better than having been sued for downloading Nasty Tranny Butt Pirates XX in the public record lol. : trove
      • Yeah I was thinking thousands but if its just the price of the porn DVD that is reasonable. : thrallie200
  • I think some people got wise to the fact that maybe small porn companies will sell their rights to a thir... : trove
• http://videoprotectionalliance.com/ Wow, what a scam. Click here to pay a fee and settle! : Phreakin
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  so pr0n torrent sites are no good anymore? : FrayLo
  • I used to use peerguardian years ago, not sure if that still works as well though. : trove
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    http://www.prleap.com/pr/136039/ I would assume you're fine if you stay away from the companies listed... : theangrywaffles
    • they should've listed the pr0n these guys make, like bangbus/milfhunter/naughtyallie/etc : FrayLo
  • Cheggit is the only place to go! : hashd
• You might also want to check his involvement with boat hull designs. Oddly enough, also protected by the... : ra1n
• That's a pretty sweet racket. Issue DMCA threats on porn to guarantee they don't fight it in court. Spl... : Ovate
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  Move to Canada : MrBig0
  • haha was gonna post this : veras
• if it were me, that letter would probably go right into the garbage. : anthonybean
• What ISP? : airrob
• scam. : acidravelamp
• Heh, BayTSP has been sending these for certain anime downloads for a good year now, though there's absolu... : Link.