Blizzard Axes LAN Play for StarCraft 2

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• more like Craptivision/Blizztard : gyokuro
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  yeah, the whole 3 separate games part is what killed any interest in this game for me. : deathofrats
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    Wait... What's the difference between: Main game w/3 small campaigns + expansion 1 w/3 small campai... : Jaradakar
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      It's not a big deal and yet you resort to calling me an idiot. First of all, they are not going to b... : deathofrats
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        No, you're assuming that's how much it will cost when they haven't announced any price points and based o... : Wisp!
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          No ,they have made it very clear that they consider them 3 different full games. : master_disaster_17
          • i believe they said that the game wouldnt have any prereqs with the other releases. like you can have th... : Mandoca
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  That 3 separate game thing still bothers me a lot. I don't know how this was never more of an issue than ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I'm not sure what the big deal is. Blizzard is going to release two expansion packs for their highly anti... : spacerumsfield
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      It's not two 'expansions'. It's three campaigns in three games. The first was three campaigns for the f... : Leekle
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        You realize that each SC2 campaign is supposed to be as large as all 3 original SC campaigns combined? ... : MidnightShift650
        • bugger that. I don't care how many cookie cutter missions they make. : master_disaster_17
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  Actually Battle.net is what kept all 3 of those going. LAN had absolutely nothing to do with their longev... : derelict515
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    Yeah, sort of, I'm buying 1/8th the copies I would have if they had a LAN component. And I played at lea... : one random winner
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      you were gonna buy 8 copies of sc2? that's completely absurd... your friends need jobs. : brainchild420
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        I would have bought 6, 1 for each of my children, 1 for my husband, 1 for myself and one for my brother w... : ferelwing
        • 2 months later. congrats on your family and your grown-up-ness. : brainchild420
• I pretty much disagree with everything you said. : angry jellyfish
• going on 12 years to come out DUKE NUKE FAIL : lordlobo

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  Yep, same here. Oh well, that's $40... no wait... $40x3 'chapters'... that's $120 I don't have to worry ... : Leekle
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    You realize that the FULL MULTIPLAYER game is going to be in the first game right? : pancake humper
    • Yeah, I'm fully aware that the Full _Battle.net_ Multiplayer is going to be enabled. Big whoop. I'm not... : Leekle
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      Well yes, it'll be FULL MULTIPLAYER. Until the second installment comes along, where they'll introduce... : ChimLeigh
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        They're expansions. Why weren't people complaining about this when they released Brood War? Lord of De... : Zyrusticae
        • I wasn't bitching cause I paid 50% the price of StarCraft for Brood War as it was priced correctly for an... : FTY
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        Isn't that the Dawn of War model? I haven't played it but they have a ton of expansions for that game. : OmegaRed59
        • As long as they're $20-30 dollars and have new units, maps, and multiplayer/SP modes. But the way Blizza... : classicfork
        • It probably is the same model, which is likely where Blizzard got the idea. Doesn't make it any less i... : ChimLeigh
      • Not everyone is going to buy it. I won't, if it doesn't have LAN support I don't want it. I hated B-net a... : ferelwing
    • If the Full multiplayer comes with the first release, the other chapters better be cheaper than the retai... : thejay247
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  Of course you can still play it in a LAN, just download PvPGN like everyone else, problem solved. Sheesh.... : deadbeatsaint
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    And that will work with the new Battle.net system that we don't know everything about yet? : OmegaRed59
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      Probably they will figure a way in a month or so... considering how popular the game will become. : Magus_X
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        Who knows though, they've probably put in a ton of counter measures. : fffortune
        • As if they would work. : Magus_X
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  The fact that you have to use Bnet 2 wouldn't stop you from still gathering a bunch of computers in a roo... : SabinRaijin
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    Oh, and an added bonus is that everyone is assured to have the latest version and be able to play right a... : SabinRaijin
    • I live in a big city in the US and I don't get that kind of connection especially if everyone in my neigh... : ferelwing
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    Alas, not all of us live in a location where a 10m connection is *possible*, let alone available to the h... : Mentawl
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      No offense, but if you don't live somewhere near a decent BB connection your're becoming a minority.l : SabinRaijin
      • Heh, if you say so man...I still know plenty of people in the US who can't even get broadband, let alone ... : Mentawl
• I'm just not going to purchase it. It's not worth the money if I can't play it via a LAN setting. : ferelwing

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  Because LAN is part of what made SC1 so huge, and so much fun to play. Playing vs. the computer blows. : VictoriouSecret
  • Agreed, : ferelwing
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  Because it's messed up. I never played SC over b.net, but I've played it over lan with 3 or more people ... : mobab
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    you could play with your friends in a private game on bnet : derelict515
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      Wait, you want me to go to a match making service even though I already found a match? : mobab
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        This is probably the best argument I've heard. Why would you want to connect to the internet and then to ... : ChimLeigh
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          Oh, hi there. I like that t-shirt you have on, I'm kinda big into that band t... hmm... oh wait, let me... : Leekle
          • lol ya how silly is that : mblissp
    • Assuming that you get good connection OR assuming you want the people in your life exposed to that kind o... : ferelwing
• Playing vs computer is fun until you defeat the campaign. Then it's just mind-numbing rinse and repeat. ... : Leekle
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  What do you expect? These are the people who never play against anyone better. And therefore they'll ... : Xulu
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    what does this have to do with the argument at hand? just curious. because it's completely irrelevant... : the city
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      cus it's a tadpole in the well scenario people who never play in the big pond seem to think they' got ... : Xulu
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        I think that your first and second post here make completely different claims. One seeks to detract from... : the city
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          How bout you try reading the other comments and see how "reasonable" they are? LAN will always be a si... : Xulu
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            I've played on Battle.net and I saw no reason to keep playing. Trying to play with no-face people (not a... : Leekle
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              Well, you're outta luck then. What you want is coop vs AI, you can play those. Cus RealTimeStrategy... : Xulu
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                Thank you for proving my point. We know how it's done. We've done it. I've been in a couple of games w... : Leekle
                • Honestly the best time i've had in an RTS is about 8 people in LAN Play in WoC. We would just nuke the fu... : Grimmadog
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                  It's also not RealTimeSlowStrategy, that would be turn-based. You realize that the most important elemen... : Xulu
                  • And the point of the game is to win by necessary means, not teching to some ridiculously high up weapons.... : Xulu
          • My children have never played on B-net because they started playing at 3 years old. They are now still n... : ferelwing
• Or just LAN it up... you know.. with a Battle.net server emulator.... "oh noez! 5 extra minutes to setup ... : deadbeatsaint

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• This ^^^^^ : AroundTheFur1380
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  Why do you need to connect to a host server when you have already found a match and are sitting next to t... : kahoona1
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    Maybe, but i can guarentee that less than 1% of the current starcraft community would play games over lan... : thewindcriesmary
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      Ridiculous statement. : thechunder
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        Hyperbole, perhaps, but not excessively so. I personally don't know anyone who LANs. : Zyrusticae
        • I know for a fact I would have at least a dozen LAN parties after Starcraft II came out if they supported... : one random winner
      • I'd say im not far off. The amount of "hardcore" gamers who play over lans is a very small part of the ga... : thewindcriesmary
• solipsistic jerk. just look at some of the other fucking threads in this topic to see concrete examples ... : MamiyaOtaru
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  We do lan parties at my dorm from time to time and Warcraft 3 is usually a pretty big hit. But it's not l... : sutrulle
  • Yeah but (at least for me) in college 90% of the people playing didn't own the game and had a cracked cop... : kodt
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  Nono. *You* live in a world with 24/7 internet connectivity. Some of us don't. I work offshore, and the n... : Mentawl
  • I think the person is rather naive about the reasoning. LAN games are being taken away because companies ... : ferelwing
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  So let me get this straight, Herradura99 - just because you don't play at LAN parties or on a LAN, no one... : wytefang
  • Why include a feature that allows scumbag pirates to play the game freely and is something 99% of custome... : herradura99
• what about 3rd world countries with crappy internet connections? : Mandoca
• What is you only have dial up? If you live out in the country you don't always have access to high speed... : Sleage
• Not all of us are teenagers who have any inclination to deal with the rather childish responses of the ge... : ferelwing

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• Valve's games can be ran in offline mode and LAN servers can be created and joined, so Valve is up to the... : eoladis
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  Of course it is. Espiecially a game like Starcraft, which is still one of the most played games at LAN p... : dhvyse
  • I second that. : matrixneo42
  • Few minutes or release. : unjustend

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• Well said. I personally don't even think removing LAN play will fight piracy, but I'm sure others as well... : darksied
• If it is to fight piracy then it's definitely a bone headed move. When security/anti piracy starts remov... : matrixneo42

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• Spawn copies are tight! Remember original red alert? It gave you two discs out of the box so you coul... : matrixneo42

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• Oh yeah. Plus the possible speed decrease because 1) you have a lot of people in one house or place suck... : matrixneo42

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  You see, there's this program called Steam, right... : Fenixius
  • which didn't always exist : kodt
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  I totally agree. Now all the cheapos have to buy the damn game and play LAN over Battle net. I really don... : d3vilsadvocate
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    So there will definately be a LAN option *inside* Battle.net? If so, please link, I haven't seen that sta... : Mentawl
    • Unless Battle.net realizes you're all playing from the same IP and decides to let one of the machines hos... : one random winner
    • i'm pretty sure there will be a lan option via bnet (or some sort of lan solution). i dont think blizzard... : Mandoca

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• Hell yea bring it on. : dracodragon6

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• You should look up bnetd so you can get a good idea of how long it will be until Blizzard sues you for th... : schnitz76
• Well I am sure that EnderZone will support it almost immediately out of the box, (though of course that s... : deadbeatsaint
• I'm willing to bet that's going to emerge very quickly now : lordlobo

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  May I ask why you don't plug that internet access into a router for everyone? They can check their email... : handofthrawn
  • Probably because it lets them check their email, find new porn, and instant message people. : poindexter1985
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  Soo uuuuh. You dont buy it because...? So you cant play at all. Good decision. : Johnnsen
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    Fanboy knee-jerk reactions are always the best ones, eh? But who would have guessed there were so many... : battlehardenedbeaver
    • Oh, I GET IT!! If someone disagrees with this asinine decision on Blizzard's part for completely legitim... : wytefang
    • The thing is , lan is pretty much a standard option for RTS games on the pc. Its odd that they, Blizza... : mblissp
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      What I meant is that you still get a game for online play and singleplayer. I dont understand why you wo... : Johnnsen
      • Because you don't support a developper that rejects the way you are used to play ? Honestly, if there'... : gzubluck
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        It's voting with your wallet. If a company screws up a game beyond what you're willing to put up with, th... : Sharakkhal
        • These last two post are right on the money. Well said fellas. : wytefang
  • Maybe he only wants it for MP. : abrasion
  • All my starcraft has been at lan parties as well. never even finished the campaigns otherwise. : azenmaster
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  What do you do for Steam games? Does offline mode work well enough? : crummynz
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    what steam games? You think blizzard needs steam to peddle their wares? it's not gonna be on it OBVI-O... : Xulu
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      No I mean, at his LAN party without internet, what does he do for games on Steam? : crummynz
      • they boycott all games that require an internet connection, use cd keys, or don't allow spawn multiplayer... : derelict515
  • Offline mode works sometimes (and when it doesn't there are other tools to enable LAN play with Steam gam... : arsenhazzard
  • Yes. Sometimes it won't work for a computer or two, but we always have a couple of laptops just in case. ... : paketep
• Fully agree. If you're a PC gamer this should be a big deal to you, regardless of whether or not you enj... : wytefang
• Saying it's a no buy isn't very realistic, but I agree that this sucks. Starcraft 2 will be the must-play... : fffortune

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  ^^^^ This. At the big LAN parties, there's no feasible way to bring in enough bandwidth for 1000+ gam... : three-d
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    You know, it's quite possible that Battle.net 2.0 is advanced enough to tell when someone you're connecte... : Zyrusticae
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      Do you understand that they need to connect to Battle.net first before they can connect to each other. N... : mobab
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        If your going to go to all this effort for a huge lan party, why dont they get off their asses and get a ... : thewindcriesmary
        • The context was giant lan parties such as quakecon and the crappy internet connection, if at all. : mobab
        • Yeah just run that massive fibre optic cable in for 2 days. Do you think these conference centres have th... : nodebug
  • http://www.sweden.se/eng/Home/Lifestyle/Sport-leisure/Reading/DreamHack--a-40-gigabit-per-second-party/ : el0j

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  That was part of Blizzard's April Fools joke. : Ajax
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    Oh really? My bad then. My opinion of Blizzard rising its suckiness level still stands thou. I apolog... : DrOoo
    • You sound like an idiot. : razoric
• Did you know that you can have a 32 player lan party with only one copy of css (or any valve game for tha... : bloodypalace

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  You know, you really shouldn't read comments on the Internet unless human stupidity amuses you. :p People... : sutrulle
  • I know and I try not to read them. But sometimes I just can't, and the stupidity pisses me off so hard. W... : Johnnsen
• This comment was intended for the WoW news but you can apply it here just as well. Just take the "launche... : Johnnsen

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  But now you CAN play it again. At full price, with a minor graphical upgrade. : SFtheWolf
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    In three sections! : kahoona1
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      People have got to stop this sometime, I swear... Three MASSIVE campaigns is not good enough? What IS... : Zyrusticae
      • You under estimate the persistence of some people : Durajim
  • And with no LAN play! What greedy fucking KNOBS they've turned into... : FreonTrip
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  What the fuck is Knights of Honor and emperor? : razlebol
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    The greatest games that no one's played! : st4rdog
    • No, the best game no one's played is Charles Barkley: Shut up & Jam: Gaiden! Now do yourself a favor and ... : Magus_X
  • This man asks the question of truth. : battlehardenedbeaver
• Fuck yes ERotMK. : Cliffzorz
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  I've always had ill feelings towards the franchise. It took away all my Age of Empires friends on AOL bac... : Cihte
  • there's a reason for that : MamiyaOtaru
• I was also kinda meh, about it, but got kinda interested again with the videos, specially battle reports.... : ClawHammR
• I'm in your boat rowing your oar. : thejay247
• how do i couldn't care less'd : CasbahBoy

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  no TF2 for them either but you don't see TF2 players crying about that : RikiTiki2
  • I stopped playing because I lost power for about a week and lost internet connection for another week. I... : mobab

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• another post said that d3 will not have lan capabilities : mobab

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  So authenticate it when you purchase it and plan to play online? Why should I have to sign into BNET to p... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    because if they allow lan support in any form or fashion, someone will find a way to hack it to where u c... : jarek99
    • Well, if this is their reasoning it bothers me more than them just overlooking it. There's no reason tha... : smoaz
    • This will happen anyways. Way way back when there was just EQ, hackers started developing packet sniffer... : Leekle
• they could just make it so that you have to be connected to the net for the lan game to work. Plus if you... : Excacheon
• This has been semi-confirmed by a friend of mine. He works at a local news station here in Oklahoma an... : first2di3

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  Yeah, this had me thinking about "spawned installations" as well. Here's a snippet from Wikipedia: "Ho... : fffortune
  • The EXACT thing i was thinking : rock42
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  I was about to post the same thing. It's such a shame because this was such a great unique feature which ... : The-Shadow-TS
  • Funny part for me, at least, was right after spawning a multiplayer session to one of my friends, they wo... : Leekle

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• Im sure only the matchmaking is handled through b.net after the game is started in will be host/clients : godm0de
• For the record, the lag will be no worse than if you were playing on Battle.net the regular way. I someho... : Zyrusticae

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• wait .. -12 ? how does that work? gonna steal or pirate then? : ClawHammR

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• I sure hope not. I've really been looking forward to it, but no LAN play might be enough of a reason for... : smoaz
• It was confirmed a long time ago that Diablo 3 is going to be without LAN. Around Sept. 08 I think. Jus... : Leekle

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• Agreed. My only comment is "That's stupid. DoW II FTW." : three-d

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  Time will tell. Some, not me, have been theorizing since it was announced that Diablo 3 multi- would be ... : Leekle
  • I'm cynical so I'd say having the right to print your own money all these years can change your perspecti... : steauengeglase
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  since theyre a business its probably about money. : mega man
  • how's axing a feature about just money? bottonline is money for every business but is every business l... : Xulu
• Everything stupid that a game company does is about piracy. : three-d

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• Yes, hamachi pirates are pissed! : RTSNut

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  Steam has an offline mode. It works too, I've played TF2 over a LAN at LAN parties. : JediDwag
  • The trick is that you need Steam to save your password, which many people forget to do. Without a net co... : TaintedSyringe
• Pirate tards stole your LAN play. : RTSNut

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  nah, bnet or at least the jest of it will always be free. blizzard's not stupid premium features are ... : Xulu
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    i dunno theve tasted massive monthly income from WoW, and the industry is looking for new ways to keep th... : Excacheon
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      you're not making any sense pal what does wow have to do with sc? not a goddamned thing. and how's c... : Xulu
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        What i was trying to say is that blizzard have a very succesful monthly subscription game (WoW). Now i ca... : Excacheon
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          actually the community has blizzard's ears now more so than ever. back in the day they just built it a... : Xulu
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            yeah i think your probably right, but unfortunatly now days it just seems to be about the money. Well as ... : Excacheon
            • pfft, I'd join you in the pickets if bnet2.0 somehow costs money. but that'll not just be the biggest mi... : Xulu