Morning Discussion: Singing in the Rain

Rather than gabber about video games, let's take this opportunity to remind our readers that Father's Day comes to much of the world this Sunday. Oh sure, it's an empty, meaningless holiday created by The Man for the purpose of selling Leatherman tools, classic car manuals and greetings cards bearing pictures of beer, but you do love your father, don't you? Only the most wretched and awful child would scorn Father's Day.

From The Chatty
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    June 17, 2009 7:16 AM

    so where is iphone OS 3.0?

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      June 17, 2009 7:18 AM

      Valid question. Do tell.

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      June 17, 2009 7:18 AM

      i heard it's at your mom's house OH SNAP

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      June 17, 2009 7:20 AM

      I wanted to get it before I went into work, looks like that's not gonna happen =(

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      June 17, 2009 7:22 AM

      10AM PST / 1PM EST

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      June 17, 2009 7:22 AM

      Not until noon Central ST

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      June 17, 2009 7:25 AM

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        June 17, 2009 7:30 AM

        AT&T is dragging their ass because they are afraid that iPhone users are going to kill the network.

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          June 17, 2009 7:52 AM

          I'm guessing they're dragging their ass so that people buy new iPhones before they announce new higher pricing for MMS/tethering enabled plans. Gotcha!

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            June 17, 2009 7:55 AM

            MMS just counts against your SMS plan. 1 MMS = 1 SMS

            http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/att-pay-for-sms-package-on-iphone-mms-wont-cost-extra.ars

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              June 17, 2009 7:59 AM

              Yeah exactly. They could change that.

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                June 17, 2009 9:26 AM

                not if you sign a contract before hand.

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            June 17, 2009 7:58 AM

            Yea, MMS will just count on your text plan. I think they are scared of all the extra data associated with the MMS messages and the huge number of iPhones out there. Just like with the tethering. They have allowed that on other smartphones for a long time already, but why they are dragging on this now doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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            June 17, 2009 8:16 AM

            no, it's their system. everything is "features" on the account. with the iPhone, the feature "Restrict MMS" was added to all accounts, because the iPhone did not support it, now that it does, they have to basically go though everyone's account and get rid of the "Restrict MMS" feature on everyone's account. Its a retarded limitation with their system, and laughable really.

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              June 17, 2009 8:28 AM

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                June 17, 2009 8:31 AM

                thats odd. that's the 1st time i've heard that, i've read of people doing the same thing you did and it works.

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                  June 17, 2009 8:38 AM

                  it depends greatly on who you end up talking to over at AT&T. most of their staff is completely retarded, but there are a few who can throw all the right switches and get it done.

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              June 17, 2009 9:23 AM

              Why would you disable a feature on the network side that the phone can't even support?

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                June 17, 2009 9:26 AM

                it's not network side, it's account side. all the flags on an account. like everyone's account has "911 emergency calling" turned on by default. "Basic Voicemail" etc..

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                  June 17, 2009 9:29 AM

                  But that disables MMS from working over the network. Again, it still doesn't make sense why they did that. Was the iPhone never supposed to support MMS and Apple just did it anyway?

            • Ebu legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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              June 17, 2009 9:31 AM

              I don't see why they couldn't accomplish that with a simple update query :(

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                June 17, 2009 9:33 AM

                like i said, their system sucks ass.

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              June 17, 2009 9:35 AM

              Not knowing the systems that they're working on but knowing how these things are generally set up makes me think that this makes no sense. *Manually* enabling MMS on a per user basis is a complete waste of manpower when you could pretty easily write a script to change that flag for every iPhone user without much effort, I would guess.

              It's most likely network related -- either the iPhone is doing MMS via IP or something and they need to build out the service (which would not surprise me) or they are worried about the excess traffic that the phone would create. The excess bandwidth argument makes sense considering the fact that apparently iPhone users are raping bandwidth at every turn anyway

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                June 17, 2009 9:36 AM

                And despite you saying the system sucks, you are probably referring to the frontend that you were using at a customer service terminal, or at a store? I guarantee it's extremely different when you have proper access.

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      June 17, 2009 7:43 AM

      Can I update the iPhone from any computer with iTunes?

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        June 17, 2009 7:58 AM

        Or should I wait to do this when I get home from work to do it on the computer I normally sync to?

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          June 17, 2009 8:15 AM

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          June 17, 2009 11:18 AM

          I would wait. If you update from another computer you will loose all of your music so when you get home you would have to sync again to put all of your music on there.

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      June 17, 2009 7:59 AM

      up your butt and around the corner

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      June 17, 2009 8:09 AM

      contract issues. People can wiggle out of an Etf if att changes plans on people. so they have some issues to go through im sure

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      June 17, 2009 8:29 AM

      tip on checking for new version within Terminal:

      Launch Terminal and type in the following every few minutes to see whether 3.0 has launched, rather than repeatedly clicking the Check for Upgrade button in iTunes (note that the up-arrow in Terminal reloads the previous command):

      curl -s -L http://phobos.apple.com/version |\
      grep -i restore |\
      grep '_3.' | open -f

      The results will look something like URLs ending with this:

      iPhone2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw
      iPhone2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

      The model number indicates which unit has downloadable firmware. As of right now, only the iPhone 3G S firmware has been updated. That's the 2,1 iPhone model. Yes, the 1,2 iPhone 3G model was considered a revision of the first generation 1,1 iPhone as it only had moderate hardware changes. The two iPods are 1,1 and 2,1 for the first and second generation.

      (No, for those wondering in the comments, you cannot download the 2,1 firmware and install it on your iPhone or iPhone 3G -- it will only work with the 3G S.)

      To download, copy the URL and paste it into Safari's download window or use any other favorite method to retrieve the firmware. Then hold the Option key and click Update in iTunes. Navigate to the firmware (the ipsw file), select it, and 3.0's good to go. Of course, you can also download directly through iTunes as soon as the update is available.

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      June 17, 2009 9:27 AM

      I'm not getting it until there's a jailbreak released so I can wait awhile.

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        June 17, 2009 9:29 AM

        There´s a jailbrake already..

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          June 17, 2009 9:47 AM

          for iPhone 3G you have to wait until friday it seems, older iPhones today after Apple releases the 3.0 OS

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        June 17, 2009 9:42 AM

        Friday, ultrasn0w is coming out

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          June 17, 2009 9:50 AM

          jailbreak does not equal SIM unlock people.

          Software unlock for all models should be available "shortly after 3.0 release" (I'm betting this afternoon).

          ultrasn0w (CARRIER UNLOCK, NOTHING TO DO WITH JAILBREAK, SOFTWARE UNLOCK, ETC) will be released Friday. If you're on AT&T legitimately, you don't need this.

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            June 17, 2009 9:57 AM

            quickpwn should have the jailbrake soon though...

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            June 17, 2009 10:00 AM

            pretty sure you need to jailbreak before you do ultrasn0w anyways so they go hand in hand

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            June 17, 2009 4:27 PM

            what are exactly the differences?

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              June 17, 2009 4:49 PM

              jailbreaking doesn't touch the network-level stuff. SIM locking, Baseband, all that jazz. It's entirely on the OS level. At it's root, the only thing it does, period, is let you run programs not from the App Store. These programs are sometimes 'normal' in that they show up on the springboard like every app and exit when you close. Or sometimes they stay in memory (such as the lock screen apps, or SBSettings). Or sometimes they even run completely in the background without you notcing it (E-mail status bar notifiers, SSH service, etc)

              Unlocking, on the other hand, deals (almost?) entirely at the network-level SIM stuff and doesn't really care about jailbreaking other than that it's a prequisite (I think?). All it does is tell your cell phone "Hey you're unlocked now don't check for SIM locks" so you can use any SIM card on any carrier. This is all it's for.

              If you're on an AT&T plan that's under contract like a normal person, there's no reason to unlock the phone. It's only for people who want to use the iPhone on, say, T-Mobile. Or a Pay-As-You-Go. Or something.

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                June 17, 2009 4:51 PM

                Okay I liked about the jailbreak thing. In addition to running programs, one more thing it does is give you root-level access to the filesystem. This lets you write files to the phone's internal storage which lets you do thing like replace all the icons for a different theme.

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                  June 17, 2009 6:17 PM

                  i knew about the Jailbreaking allowing you to install cydia/installer apps.

                  i meant to ask about unlock / yellowsnow and now ultrasnow (?)

                  it was still cool of you to explain everything, thanks!

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        June 17, 2009 9:59 AM

        jailbreak and unlock are ready: http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/124232620/big-week

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      June 17, 2009 10:01 AM

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      June 17, 2009 10:03 AM

      If I have the GM version will there be a new one anyone know?

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        June 17, 2009 10:20 AM

        Nope, it just updated my carrier settings file so mms started working and tethering showed up in settings.

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      June 17, 2009 10:07 AM

      anyone updating yet?

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      June 17, 2009 10:08 AM

      will 3.0 be out for ipod Touch as well today?

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      June 17, 2009 10:12 AM

      DOWNLOADING 3.0 NOW!!!

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      June 17, 2009 10:12 AM

      Can't wait to get home to update my iPhone. Apple should just switch to Verison since AT&T is being a bitch about tethering.

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        June 17, 2009 10:13 AM

        Once Verizon stops being a bitch about supporting GSM.

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        June 17, 2009 10:17 AM

        Verizon is 100 times more archaic that AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if they were to disable all bluetooth profiles other than headset on an iPhone if they ever got one.

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        June 17, 2009 10:24 AM

        If iPhone was on Verizon there'd be no tethering, MMS, or App Store, the way they brutalize roms.

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      June 17, 2009 10:14 AM

      DOWNLOADING NOW!!! 10 mins!!!

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      June 17, 2009 10:16 AM

      This version of the iPhone software (3.0) is the current version.

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        June 17, 2009 10:18 AM

        yeah i'm still getting that too, beta 5

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          June 17, 2009 10:26 AM

          you didn't get the GM? I think that's the final version

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          June 17, 2009 10:31 AM

          if you're on beta 5 you have to update manually I would guess using the ADC download

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          June 17, 2009 10:35 AM

          Oh I'm on the GM final. I'm just being a joker.

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      June 17, 2009 10:17 AM

      I've got it, but I don't have iTunes 8.2 on my machine and it's admin locked and I'm going to be working late tonight.
      KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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      June 17, 2009 10:26 AM

      Is it still version 3.0 (7A341)? Settings -> General -> About

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        June 17, 2009 10:30 AM

        according to people in Twitter yes it is

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      June 17, 2009 10:26 AM

      Just got it here for my iTouch. Downloading now.

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        June 17, 2009 10:33 AM

        How did you manage getting it for your Touch? I bought it but it never updated....

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          June 17, 2009 1:11 PM

          No idea.

          I had to agree to these EULAs like 4 times, new iTunes Agreement OS 3.0 agreement, something about giving over my first born (who is three weeks old today so no way) and then it finally started downloading and installed.

          Works great.

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      June 17, 2009 10:27 AM

      man it's weird you guys are all excited because I have had this for months and it's already mundane to me! I think I used copy/paste once!

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        June 17, 2009 10:27 AM

        dont shit on our parade...

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          June 17, 2009 10:28 AM

          oh I'm not trying to, I thought it was awesome when I got it too, it's just weird is all! I've never been so far ahead of the curve before!

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            June 17, 2009 10:31 AM

            * being able to txt and email with landscape keyboard will never be mundane.
            * being the attention whore i am, i very very much miss MMS
            * copy and paste? meh. i will prolly be the same.

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              June 17, 2009 10:35 AM

              MMS still doesn't work!! I will be happy when AT&T gets their asses in gear though. landscape in everything is pretty awesome though.

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                June 17, 2009 10:43 AM

                i quite enjoy copy paste. i know it is a basic functionality that it should have had, but it is very useful. i find i use it a lot when sending URLs that i have in my calendar, or sending someone's contact information via text or email to someone else.

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        June 17, 2009 10:30 AM

        I don't know how many times when I first got the iPhone that I was begging for copy / paste. Now, I just seemed trained to not want to copy / paste on the iPhone. . . and great, my entire exchange email box seemed to get blown away on the phone, awesome. Way to go Apple!

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        June 17, 2009 10:32 AM

        Right there with you buddy

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        June 17, 2009 10:38 AM

        WHERE I LIVE YOU COULD BUY A MANSION FOR 1,000/MO!!!!!!!

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          June 17, 2009 10:39 AM

          you liar you can't even get a 1BR in manhattan for that >:(

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        June 17, 2009 10:52 AM

        I've actually used it a few times to pull links into a note or something so that I can look at a few different articles without having to open 5 "tabs" in safari and have it get painfully slow.

        Used it a few other times too, but overall it's definitely not something that I've used extensively.

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      June 17, 2009 10:35 AM

      Anyone else timing out on the download? I'm getting to 230.0mb out of 230.1mb

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        June 17, 2009 10:47 AM

        What the fuck?? I've tried 6 times - rebooted, etc. IT KEEPS STOPPING AT 230.0 MB FAGGZ

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      June 17, 2009 10:37 AM

      INSTALLED!

      http://www.shackpics.com/files/Photoon20090617at1332_5cmgs25h0cx9e083h3ve.jpg

      i dont see the compass anywhere though. is this a 3Gs only app? Voice Memo is there, i suddenly have no songs on the thing. odd.. try to resync it again..

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      June 17, 2009 10:43 AM

      Anyone know if Push Notifications is active yet?

      ETrade Mobile Pro rolled out an update adding push support this morning but I can't seem to get it to work. Says it's going to enable then turns itself back off. Is there a main settings area where I have to turn on push?

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        June 17, 2009 10:45 AM

        Push notifications SHOULD be active.

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          June 17, 2009 10:46 AM

          Also that ETrade app is tops

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          June 17, 2009 10:51 AM

          It's something with the ETrade app, Tap Tap Revenge seems to be working.

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      June 17, 2009 10:46 AM

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        June 17, 2009 10:47 AM

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          June 17, 2009 10:54 AM

          why no unlimited plan? if not for the unlimited plan, i would be a very sad panda. i used over 550mb last month.

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            June 17, 2009 11:11 AM

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              June 17, 2009 11:20 AM

              sorry to hear that sir. this brings up a good question: has anyone [tethered] yet? what are the speeds like?

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                June 17, 2009 11:25 AM

                yeah i have. generally between 1 and 1.5 mbps

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        June 17, 2009 11:20 AM

        hmm I already have the $15 value pack.. so I need to pay $5 extra to get mms? fuck that, I'm overpaying as it is.

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        June 17, 2009 12:34 PM

        I actually talked to Rogers customer service about this last week. I currently have the $15 iPhone value pack which came with 2500 text messages but the lady told me it's been updated to also include 1000 MMS as well (or at least I think it was 1000).

        Unfortunately though, people without MMS in their plans will be charged 50 cents per incoming MMS. Which sucks because I don't want to make friends pay to receive my messages.

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      June 17, 2009 10:47 AM

      so is mms going to work for t-mobile menz? is it going to cost extra?

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      June 17, 2009 10:51 AM

      Do you have to get it from itunes?

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      June 17, 2009 10:54 AM

      whoa, 3.0 blew away all my contacts.

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      June 17, 2009 10:57 AM

      So I downloaded it, I copied and pasted, I searched.... now what?

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      June 17, 2009 10:58 AM

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      June 17, 2009 11:04 AM

      any idea when the first push chat clients are coming? meebo, etc..?

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      June 17, 2009 11:04 AM

      Can 3.0 on gayt&t atleast receive picture messages or is it the same viewmymessage.com BS?

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        June 17, 2009 11:05 AM

        for now, it still can't receive picture messages

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        June 17, 2009 11:07 AM

        I can't wait to not have to use that site anymore. I never had to work so hard to see blurry titties.

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      June 17, 2009 11:07 AM

      for developers who had earlier releases installed, did it let you update yet? my gf's old 2.2 phone is now 3.0, but mine (beta 5) isnt updating yet.

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      June 17, 2009 11:08 AM

      Anyone have a link for the direct download of the file?

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      June 17, 2009 11:08 AM

      One feature that no one has really mentioned in any of these reviews is the awesome "move your finger up and down the screen" to fine-scrub your music.

      It's probably my favorite feature of the new update, it makes it really easy to get to the second on podcasts and stuff.

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        June 17, 2009 11:10 AM

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          June 17, 2009 11:12 AM

          Street View in Maps is in the 3.0 update? Where?

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            June 17, 2009 11:14 AM

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              June 17, 2009 11:25 AM

              I hope Google add the 'pancake' view thing that we saw a few weeks back, where you position yourself up and down the street with a circle.

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              June 17, 2009 11:25 AM

              Holy crap that's cool! Thanks!

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              June 17, 2009 11:36 AM

              is this over 3G too?

              • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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                June 17, 2009 11:37 AM

                Yeah, I've had Street View for a long time.

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        June 17, 2009 11:19 AM

        holy crap! I have been wanting this so bad for podcasts.

      • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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        June 17, 2009 11:20 AM

        What does this mean? "fine-scrub"? Is this a typo or something I've never heard of.

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          June 17, 2009 11:23 AM

          when you move through a song or podcast with the scrubber, you can slide your finger down at the same time to get a slower scrub speed.

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            June 17, 2009 11:24 AM

            another scrubber so you can scrub while you scrub

          • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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            June 17, 2009 11:25 AM

            Ohh, I never heard of it referred to as scrubbing.

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            June 17, 2009 11:38 AM

            still dont understand what the hell a scrub is.

            • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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              June 17, 2009 11:39 AM

              little slider thing you use to change the volume or fast forward/rewind in a song

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        June 17, 2009 11:25 AM

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      June 17, 2009 11:29 AM

      holy fuck people are raping my bandwidth doing this on site here !!! the little T1 is fucking PEGGED

      god dammit to fuck time to exert some firewall muscle

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        June 17, 2009 12:03 PM

        well I have one confirmed iphone brick at the office here and now it's somehow my problem

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          June 17, 2009 12:09 PM

          You're the computer guy! Can't you fix the microwave? :(

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      June 17, 2009 11:30 AM

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      June 17, 2009 11:30 AM

      give me the ability to delete factory apps (or at least hide them) and also set my own sms/mms alerts and i will give ZJ's to everyone at apple.

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        June 17, 2009 11:32 AM

        just put them on a rightmost page and be done?

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          June 17, 2009 12:08 PM

          yeah it's nitpicky but i still know they're there. it's like cleaning your room by throwing shit in the closet to me.

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        June 17, 2009 11:33 AM

        You can do this if you jailbrake it..

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          June 17, 2009 4:19 PM

          ^^^ This and changing out the YouTube icons are about the only reason to jailbreak anymore...

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      June 17, 2009 11:31 AM

      When logging in to my job`s wifi, I´m being taken to apple.com to Log In? If I tap Cancel, I get switched back to 3g.. wt?

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        June 17, 2009 11:46 AM

        wtf? There´s not even a log in field or something..

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      June 17, 2009 11:37 AM

      So is there some trick I can do with AT&T to get MMS working now? Right now my account shows:
      iPhone Text Messaging Unlimited $20.00

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      June 17, 2009 11:39 AM

      My phone is hosed. I updated it, it wanted me to register with apple for some reason, typed in my old information, it then proceeded to download and install it, iphone rebooted.

      It now wants me to attach it to iTunes (has the little USB/iTunes symbol on the screen). I do that, it tries to connect to the apple store, and just times out.

      I'm hoping it's just because the servers are flooded and not something wrong with my phone. But..regardless as of this moment, my phone is just sitting there and unusable.

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      June 17, 2009 11:39 AM

      so i installed the update and hen on restart it tries to connect to the itunes store and it will not connect,,,doh!!!


      right now iphone is useless..showing the connect to itunes graphic only....this sucks

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      June 17, 2009 11:46 AM

      I personally think that apple should make it up to everyone by adding video to the OS 3.0 upgrade since they had all of us AT&T customers hyped up over unuseable features. o_O

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        June 17, 2009 11:49 AM

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        June 17, 2009 11:49 AM

        the hardware isn't fast enough to support video that doesn't suck I'd think. Jailbreakers have done it, but it sucks, it's <15fps and low resolution.

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          June 17, 2009 11:53 AM

          Well we should get something! AT&T should just be greatful that apple made the deal with them in the first place or else they woulda been stuck with nokia and probably woulda went under during these hard economical times

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      June 17, 2009 11:47 AM

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      • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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        June 17, 2009 11:49 AM

        My iPhone is on my company's exchange server. 3.0 blew away my contacts. :(

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          June 17, 2009 11:51 AM

          oh shit..really?

          • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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            June 17, 2009 12:08 PM

            yeah it seems they overhauled contacts because I can either see contacts by "Groups" or "All Contacts on my iPhone" or antoher button for "Exchange xxx@xxx.com"

            This seems really nice but helpfully blowing away all of my existing family and friends contacts who were not a part of exchange was kind of not so nice. :(

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              June 17, 2009 12:14 PM

              It didn't blow away your contacts on the exchange server though did it?

              • kek legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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                June 17, 2009 12:41 PM

                no, no of course not. just the ones I create locally.

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          June 17, 2009 11:52 AM

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        June 17, 2009 1:44 PM

        The Find my iPhone feature is pretty neat too but you have to have both Location Services and Push on.

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      June 17, 2009 11:51 AM

      HELP! Okay so I set it to update and went outside. Came back and the iPhone is displaying a picture that indicates that I should connnect it to iTunes. When I do so, the phone loads and then it says "We could not complete your iTunes Store request. The network connection timed out". And now I cannot do anything but eject my phone. wtf?

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        June 17, 2009 11:52 AM

        Read the thread homey.

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        June 17, 2009 11:52 AM

        Same. Servers are overloaded, read above.

        Has anyone had this happen and then been successful by constantly refreshing?

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          June 17, 2009 12:01 PM

          It happened to me last year with the 2.0 update. All my contacts vanished until I could finally get through to the store. It eventually worked fine though.

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      June 17, 2009 12:00 PM

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        June 17, 2009 12:01 PM

        I bought my phone last year and it was activated for me in the store. It's pretty dumb that one needs to re-activate the phone.

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          June 17, 2009 12:03 PM

          Then throw the phone away and go get a pay as you go one.

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            June 17, 2009 12:17 PM

            i think they have a valid complaint here. My G1 simply updated in the background through 3G and restarted when they pushed an update. There's literally no reason why Iphone couldn't do this.

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              June 17, 2009 1:01 PM

              G1 = Not as many users as iPhone.

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                June 17, 2009 1:52 PM

                The G1 doesn't phone home after an upgrade. As best I can tell, neither does iPhone for point releases.

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        June 17, 2009 12:12 PM

        what does a bricked iphone act like? one of my users who clearly rushed the process is basically hyperventilating now

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          June 17, 2009 12:21 PM

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            June 17, 2009 12:25 PM

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            June 17, 2009 12:35 PM

            ok thanks, I will pass that along. I am NOT going to touch it. I have a feeling the cable was disconnected or the phone was power cycled or something.

            but hey it's cool the iphone is starting to catch up to the Storm... hahaahahahahsduhfaopwyhrfaiwr

            /wrists

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        June 17, 2009 12:20 PM

        ^^^ for 3G purchasers wanting to upgrade to 3G S, its cheaper now!

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          June 17, 2009 12:23 PM

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          June 17, 2009 12:23 PM

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          June 17, 2009 12:24 PM

          I love AT&T again!!

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            June 17, 2009 12:27 PM

            Fuck I don't qualify until March!! I HATE AT&T AGAIN!!

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              June 17, 2009 12:35 PM

              serves you right for having bad hair and being late to the party

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                June 17, 2009 12:36 PM

                probably bad shoes also, amirite? insert lame old school eurobooties joke here

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              June 17, 2009 12:39 PM

              you too. read more carefully: We're now pleased to offer our iPhone 3G customers who are upgrade eligible in July, August or September 2009 our best upgrade pricing, beginning Thursday, June 18.

              today is WEDNESDAY JUNE 17.

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                June 17, 2009 1:39 PM

                yeah I checked their upgrade eligibility link and it said I was eligible in March, not any of those three months

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          June 17, 2009 12:26 PM

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            June 17, 2009 12:38 PM

            did you read this part? the new pricing isnt up until tomorrow:
            We're now pleased to offer our iPhone 3G customers who are upgrade eligible in July, August or September 2009 our best upgrade pricing, beginning Thursday, June 18.

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              June 17, 2009 1:11 PM

              yeah, and he's not upgrade eligible in July, August, or September, so it doesn't apply to him

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          June 17, 2009 12:31 PM

          They need an option for first-time iPhone buyers with POS phones who purchased last April.

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            June 17, 2009 12:36 PM

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              June 17, 2009 12:39 PM

              I mean people w/o iPhones, at all.

              I have a Razr and want an iPhone, but I'm not navigable for upgrade pricing until November. If I'm willing to make that big of an upgrade in phone service, they should at least knock the price down a bit more.

              Hell, I think it's cheaper to cancel my existing service and get an iphone, than it is to do the upgrade right now.

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                June 17, 2009 12:45 PM

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                  June 17, 2009 1:28 PM

                  Right now going with a 32gb GS would be $500 with the upgrade option. With the "new customer" option it would be $300. My early termination fee would be $175 max, but I think that's reduced by $5/month you're on the contract, which would put it around $100 total...

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          June 17, 2009 12:43 PM

          This makes me very happy.

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        June 17, 2009 12:52 PM

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        June 17, 2009 1:11 PM

        I bought my 3G at launch and I'm not upgrade eligible until December

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        June 17, 2009 5:00 PM

        What am missing? You guys are happy that there is a $200 premium to upgrade? Based on when I'm eligable, they want you 18 months into your 24 month contract, so you're paying $200 for 6 months?

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      June 17, 2009 12:25 PM

      son of a BITCH man! http://www.lamerc.com/users/onji/itunes.jpg

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        June 17, 2009 12:33 PM

        It's been like this for about an hour now. Bullshit!

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        June 17, 2009 12:36 PM

        same here dude. Wanna have a bromance?

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        June 17, 2009 12:41 PM

        i eventually got past it after estarting itunes over and over again... only has to be done that way on windows.. osx auto retries.

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      June 17, 2009 12:35 PM

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      June 17, 2009 12:50 PM

      So which app is using push right now that I can get?

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      June 17, 2009 12:51 PM

      Is anyone having issues connecting to WiFi? I keep getting asked to log in in apple.com...

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      June 17, 2009 1:18 PM

      Finally updating!

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      June 17, 2009 1:59 PM

      So what's the best IM app to use now that the OS update has arrived?

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      June 17, 2009 2:02 PM

      so where is iphone OS 3.0 jailbreak? I'm bored with it already.

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        June 17, 2009 4:21 PM

        Supposedly tonight but I wouldn't hold my breath

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          June 17, 2009 4:25 PM

          Supposedly it's ready to go, they're just sitting on it so they can do some final testing w/ the released firmware just in case.

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      June 17, 2009 4:20 PM

      LatestChatty.app was updated too! Now has ShackMessage support. :D

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        June 17, 2009 4:21 PM

        I don't think the comment search is working though :(

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        June 17, 2009 4:21 PM

        Also, EDGE internet on my phone just bought the farm... :/

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          June 17, 2009 4:32 PM

          Nevermind I'm an idiot.

          Latest Chatty's feed appears to be dead though. :(

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        June 17, 2009 4:47 PM

        is it possible to install this on 2.x firmware?

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        June 17, 2009 5:19 PM

        Does it like to crash after making a post for anyone else?

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      June 17, 2009 4:29 PM

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        June 17, 2009 5:01 PM

        Keep trying. After try number 539, it finally worked for me. Not sure why their servers are having problems, though.

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      June 17, 2009 4:36 PM

      Responsiveness overall seems improved. Especially Notes and the Safari

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        June 17, 2009 4:43 PM

        Safari is so fast now it's near ridiculous.

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          June 17, 2009 4:46 PM

          And the save credentials stuff is awesome. Now I can access my accounts for various things without having to type in my obscenely long passwords all the time.

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          June 17, 2009 4:51 PM

          Wow. I didn't try it out until I saw your post. This is an insane improvement.

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        June 17, 2009 4:44 PM

        I love that the Voice Memo app launches INSTANTLY

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          June 17, 2009 4:52 PM

          It seems Stocks now has an heir to the "Most useless app ever" throne.

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            June 17, 2009 5:03 PM

            Are you kidding me? Voice memos are incredibly useful when you need to take a quick note but don't have time to type it in.

            Well, it would be useful if there were a hard button on the side that started a recording so you could do it with one hand line in a car, like all Windows Mobile phones have. The fact that you have to unlock your device and find and launch the app, and then press the rec button makes it actually kind of useless because it can't be used in the situations I would want to use voice memos!

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              June 17, 2009 5:17 PM

              if you can't unlock and choose an app one-handed without looking at the phone, you don't deserve to take voice memos!

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            June 17, 2009 5:03 PM

            I don't know, I already found it handy during sex to record the pornstar quality moans I get.

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        June 17, 2009 5:02 PM

        I'm on the original iPhone and even I noted a nice performance improvement and smoothness. I wasn't even expecting it or thought about it, so it's not placebo.

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      June 17, 2009 5:00 PM

      It doesn't correct spelling anymore WHYYY :(

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      June 17, 2009 5:05 PM

      seems slower on my 1g :(

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        June 17, 2009 5:16 PM

        Mine got noticeably faster. Especially Safari.

        Did you do just an update, or did you restore it completely?

        If not, I'd suggest a full restore. As long as you're backed up w/ iTunes you won't lose any data, it just takes longer. A full restore is analogous to a format/reinstall of Windows. As soon as it finishes it'll sync your stuff back automatically. Takes about an hour.

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          June 17, 2009 6:18 PM

          an hour??

          mines takes 3 hours just to sync (before restoring)

          and i have no music in it :(

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      June 17, 2009 6:16 PM

      AT&T Teethers for 3.0 release.

      Dont know if you guys saw this, but a quick way to unlock teethering is to email yourself the ATT_US.ipcc file and open it on the iPhone 3G (and 3GS) with OS 3.0.

      Here is the article that talks about it, however, you dont need to downgrade iTunes or any of that mess. according to the comments, you just need to send yourself that above file.

      I have found it at http://drop.io/bgwchlj for now. Give it a try and see if it works for you. Make damn sure it is backed up.

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        June 17, 2009 6:17 PM

        I am waiting for my 3GS, and currently only have the first gen iPhone with Edge. It does not work on this phone since Apple does not support Teethering with the Edge version. FYI

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      June 17, 2009 6:19 PM

      Are there any Instant Messenger Programs out yet that support Push notifications?

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