Morning Discussion: I'm Wide Awake (It's Morning)

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• no : ]pm[chem
• Most games require a much larger time investment than movies, or even a season's worth of TV. So it's not... : ConfusedUs
• Meh. Just get cynical and start disliking and being unimpressed by more things. Problem solved. : adpalumbo
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  I fuckin' cry my eyes out. : pres589
  • I knew it!! : CrustaR
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  I might be upset were every video game fantastic. As it is, I am quite happy to miss most video games. : Alice O'Connor
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    i feel like even if 25% are good to great, that's still more than i can hope to play : EvilDolemite
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      25% is way too high. I think 10% is more fair for most systems (which means the PS2 has a good 200+ good-... : roushimsx
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        10% would probably be, what? Averaging one every week or two, based on the release lists? Average I... : walker270
        • I guess I'm lucky to be picky. I see maybe 3-5 titles per year, per platform that I anticipate and maybe... : adpalumbo
        • You could cut the number down pretty well by eliminating multiplatform games except for on the strongest ... : roushimsx
• Actually, I just looked at the release list for for all platforms and realized there's not a single game ... : Edges
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  Shit, I still haven't gotten caught up on SNES and Genesis games. : roushimsx
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    same here. still never played chrono trigger or finished shadowrun or phantasy star 4. i just get worri... : EvilDolemite
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      I never finished the SNES version of Shadowrun because I couldn't stand the gameplay :( Drop everythin... : roushimsx
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        i have it on that genesis collection (which i have been neglecting). : EvilDolemite
        • I know, and that's what upsets me :( Fire that sucker up and play it for an hour or so tonight. Have a... : roushimsx
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    as a completionist, you don't count :) : dopeman
    • nicca plz! There's plenty of series where I don't even bother trying to play all of the games. Like, r... : roushimsx
• Just charge everything to your credit card. In a few months sell it all on eBay. Then in 6 months buy it ... : hoov1185
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  it doesn't depress me, but it frustrates me because i always thought that i would have a bunch of time to... : dopeman
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    it's bittersweet. you have the money to buy exponentially more games, but you're limited by time. it's ... : EvilDolemite
    • yup. this is pretty much it. i've bought enough games that i haven't even finished or bothered to play ... : dopeman
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    It's strange. I have time to do so now that I'm finally out of school, but I have so many different hobb... : CrustaR
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      this too. between work, girlfriend, and other hobbies (cycling, band) it's hard. if only there was so... : dopeman
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        I guess if we could eliminate this work thing, we'd be okay on time. : CrustaR
        • yeah.. that "work" thing really fucks up my schedule for doing shit that i want to do. : dopeman
• Yeah. I get even more depressed when I think that if I spent all the time I waste now reading video game ... : Perturbation
• You've got to consider that not all of those games are going to be great, and as such you're not missing ... : Ajax
• Part of the reason I come here is to hear different opinons/perspectives on games that I've missed. I us : jingletard
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  I like how cheap gaming is for me now. The quality and value simply isn't there to warrant buying many ga... : haiku
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    It's so incredibly rare that I find a game that I'm willing to spend $60 on. :( : roushimsx
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      Is that why you are part of OLD GAME CLUB, roushimsx? : CrustaR
      • I play lots of new games, too! : roushimsx
    • I feel so miserly saying it but...I agree. : Dr_Cube
• A little but not really. I only like a few genres, primarily multiplayer and coop games, and the industry... : Dr_Cube
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  No, but along those same lines it depresses me that there is so much fine pussy, on so many different sha... : mace
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    But you have gone round the bases so many times while others do so only in dream. You exist at a higher p... : Dr_Cube
    • I assure you, most of you would hate to be in my mind. I reach a level of frustration driven by sexual en... : mace
• I've always wondered at what point were more movie made than you can watch in a lifetime of just watching... : TroZ
• There hasn't been that many games worth playing this year, thanks to the recession. : Link.
• I feel that way about books. : DonkeyPopsicle
• Depress? No, not at all. : MoreVespeneGas
• Nope. I'm not much of a gamer, and I don't like single player games. I'd be happy if I could still play q... : Chunks
• Depressing? Nah, there is far more to life than just playing classic video games. If you are finding that... : bob3578
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  Absolutely. When I look at the number of games I've got of the XBOX (original), the X360, and the PC (mo... : Waverider
  • Clarification: Depressing, not really. Disappointing, yes. Lots of good stuff, not enough time. : Waverider
• I use to think this, but I manage to play most of them at some point. A lot of game do get unplayed, but ... : freakynipples69
• I don't feel bad about missing anything, and I love that there's so much choice! I'm like a kid in a cand... : Dave-A
• Depressed over that? Jesus, no. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Absolutely not true... Most games are not worth playing and that has always been true. Massive amount ... : cruel dem
  • I think that maybe your problem is that you are not selective enough... : cruel dem
• kill her... now : technotica
• I miss the days when I was poor and my mom could only buy me a game every once and a while. That way I o... : deadhorse

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  Was there a post on this before this? I gots 1 vs. 100 shit to do tonight! : Deathlove
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    I'm not sure, but you should come out for this. You're so overdue on one of these. : re-verse
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      I can't, told my wife this morning she could go out with her friends, so I'm on kid duty. >:( : Deathlove
      • ahh damn. : re-verse
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  I can't make it tonight, but will there be more this summer? : Flying h4x0r
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    yeah, i'll work on organizing something big, something that can hopefully merge the 2 shack chicago cliqu... : re-verse
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      Incoming ROCKBAND NIGHT : Arctic Fox
      • I'm up for this. Let a brutha know was up! : TrickSh0t
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      sweet. What are the two cliques? Married and single shackers? : Flying h4x0r
      • nah, a few of them on the side with married couples are as single as you get. : re-verse
      • I'm guessing there's the Shackers listed in the root post as one clique (a bunch of us go out photographi : Arctic Fox
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  Thanks for making this post man, I just logged in to do it myself :) : Arctic Fox
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    Heh yeah I was getting concerned, so took the initiative. So i bought an 8 foot stand + shoot through ... : re-verse
    • I'm gonna go with yes : Arctic Fox
    • LOL. : RogerDandy
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  Damn I'll probably be gone from Dave & Busters by 9 tonight haha. : Chod
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    haha for real? what are you doing there? : re-verse
    • Was going with a friend earlier that's all, nothing fancy. : Chod
  • I used to live in a condo in that building! : Jimb0v2
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  My girlfriend and I will be at the L&L on belmont and clark today after work if anyone wants to swing by.... : not work safe
  • my last girlfriend wouldn't even walk into L&L : fletch_
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  I'd go but we're poor. Have fun though! : jingletard
  • You should anyway! we're low budget. : re-verse
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  i hope it's not too packed. the one thing i hate about d&b is it's chalk-full of jerks and you can never ... : arcane_
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    We'll just get RPE to talk to them about copyright law until they either move or commit suicide. : Arctic Fox
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      RPE hates capacity crowds. : re-verse
      • </Francis> : Arctic Fox
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  see you there! : Snuffles-
  • awesome :) SM re-verse your cell number in case we can't find you. : Arctic Fox
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  Too bad I didn't know about this sooner. I can't just drop everything and make a 5 hour drive! : valael
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    Shit, if anyone ever makes a 5 hour drive to come to a shackmeet, dinner is on me. : re-verse
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      What about a 5 hour flight? :P : Alco23
      • heh indeed! : re-verse
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      I'd do a Chicago one, that would be 8 hours.. do I get a dinner and a half? : devi| dog
      • a nice diner. : re-verse
    • paging sailor of fortune, its go time!! and ctrl-phreak, wasn't it? : xsoulbrothax
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  Afternoon BUMP : Arctic Fox
  • iawtab : re-verse
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  wtf? short notice, i have plans tonight : fletch_
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    Yeah, the next one i'll try to give at lesat 48 hour notice. This thing has been in planning for over ... : re-verse
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      He's all butthurt because no-one replied to his last Shackmeet thread. I told him to supply a time and a ... : Arctic Fox
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        I'm sure the fact that my post didn't include phrases like "my apartment" "bucket of lube" and "sweaty me... : re-verse
        • there's no time on this : Deathlove
• I wish I could go because you are all cool people and I'd like to shake Chepitos hand. : NastyJack
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  everytime I read Mystikal's name this is what happens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMY80kGvHdc : moe6
  • lol thanks for that, now I will forever associate the two : Arctic Fox
  • SAME GUY! : ass-street
  • oh god, what did we get ourselves into? someone might get raped tonight. : arcane_
  • exactly!! : buzzbat
  • Jesus Christ, same here : king_darius
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  Awwwww dammit! I wish I could go! If you're in the Chicago area and you miss meeting these people you're ... : RogerDandy
  • agreed. : re-verse

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  Sticks and stones. Personally, the more obscene or out of left field it is the more I like it, because it... : Rooster Cockburn
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    Any song examples? : thief
    • soulja boy - crank dat : FrayLo
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      Most recently? Eminem, off Relapse. Lyrics like: Don't you know what felch means? (yeah), well then te... : Rooster Cockburn
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        man, that dude has some serious issues with ladies! : jessipoo
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          man, that dude has some serious issues -{with ladies}-! : dopeman
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            wow that was a horrible guess let me try that again: man, that dude has some serious issues with ladies! : dopeman
            • oh my god my reading comprehension fails me : dopeman
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        That must be a long lost cut from a Insane Clown Posse album. So damn edgy! : NastyJack
        • ICP - bitches : FrayLo
• morally disagree with? yeah, i dont think i'd listen to that if it's not a joke. : feek
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  I can't understand the lyrics in most songs which works out great cuz once I eventually learn what they a... : Megara9
  • Weird Al? : legato17
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  i generally don't resolve the lyrics into words, i just hear (and sometimes memorize) the syllables. the... : electroly
  • aka REM - Murmur : Deathlove
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    Yeah, but -- this is why I included that death metal example -- does realizing what the lyrics actually a... : thief
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      No, I wouldn't say my enjoyment of the song is affected once I learn what the words are. The lyrics just... : electroly
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        So then could a metal band get away with singing about flowers and puppies so long as they continue to gr... : thief
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          Absolutely. I'm unlikely to notice, but if I did, I don't think I'd care. : electroly
          • So why sing about legitimately awful things. That's where I get lost. The only reason I can see is that... : thief
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    pretty much the same with me. i rarely take in the lyrics, even when clear. often I find them distracting... : stgulik
    • I'm not a musical person, so I probably put too much emphasis on the lyrics. For example one of my favo : thief
  • hold me closer tony danza : dopeman
  • excuse me while i kiss this guy : dirge23
  • "There's a bathroom on the right" : hirez
  • Same. I have to try quite hard to actually 'follow' the words in a song. : Danny5225
• I love bizarre lyrics. Frank Zappa was a master at fucked up lyrics, and his stuff is great : retardhumper
• I don't really care about the lyrics if the song is good. Perfect example is the "The Rake's Song" from t... : wretchedradio
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  I've been on both sides of the fence. Typically, I would say that I usually like a song for it's beat fir... : zipper76
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    Would you listen to those songs that you like its "beat first" if there weren't any lyrics? Or are the l... : thief
    • Most of the time, I would say yes, but there are some songs that the lyrics are almost part of the rhythm... : zipper76
    • i would say the beat is the base for everything, you need a pace for those lyrics. most electronic music ... : ghost hacker
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  tori's cover is so fucked up. it's gorgeous and creepy. : dahanese
  • Yeah, I like it a lot. : thief
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  I don't like the N word (I don't even like the letter N) so that puts me off of a lot of rap and hip hop,... : dognose
  • this is how i feel. : feek
• It depends usually, on how blatant the topic is and how far they push it. If it's an agenda song then th... : one random winner
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  I really don't listen to lyrics. For example, Opeth is one of my favourite bands and I have NO IDEA what... : Vantage
  • I love Opeth too! But I do listen to their lyrics, and it's usually themes of alienation and social se... : h0cake
• They don't sell music like that at Walmart so I don't listen to it. : not work safe
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  It depends on the music. Some music highlights lyrics and with others it's just another instrument. R... : renegade732
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    Oh hey, I like your movie analogy. But what do you think about SAW and Hostel and Amateur Porn Star Kill : thief
    • Whatever gets your rocks off? I haven't actually seen any of those movies so I can't comment directly. : renegade732
  • what if the lyrics were, whoever is listening to this song is like totally lame....burn! : spiderfill
• It depends if the message is corollary to the music, or if the music is supposed to be the message. I wil... : wasylm
• i like instrumental music a lot. i feel a huge number of great songs are ruined by lousy lyrics. : dirge23
• It depends entirely on the music. If I'm listening to some Hip Hop or something similarly lyrically d... : Ctrl-Phreak
• I hardly ever know the lyrics but I know when the guitar solo will kick in. People that pay attention to... : kgargs
• Good lyrics are very rare in rock music so when I find a band who has them like, say, The Mountain Goats,... : NastyJack
• Generally I can't understand what most of the death metal bands I listen to are saying so it's all good, ... : megarust32
• More and more I focus on instrumental music, as nearly all lyrics seem dumb, unoriginal, and cliché. and... : NexusOne
• easiest solution to this is to lower your morals. : agentlead
• i listen to a lot of metal so i have absolutely no idea wtf the lyrics im listening to are 90% of the tim... : ninjase
• i don't have any morals, just taste. : Dschinghis Khan
• I don't listen to lyrics. They convey no emotion at all. It's all the music. : Chunks

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  A bullet that gains momentum the farther it travels? Heresy. : VictoriouSecret
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    someone call the mythbusters to test this video game stat : twifosp
    • All it takes is the human mind man! : Bamii
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      I still can't believe they tested the "curving bullets" thing from Wanted... i mean seriously WTF : Shadowdane
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        Yeah, I would think the answer "BASiC PHYSICS, MOTHERFUCKER!" would suffice. : ChibiJosh
        • that assumes people know basic physics. most people don't. : deject
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet : nosseman
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoffTmg9bxU : sludge vohaul
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    Not if you shoot down! : _jon
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      I hope you are kidding. :) : nosseman
      • If you shoot down... into a black hole : snuff
      • gravity accelerates objects! : _jon
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  It already instakills for headshots, what more do you want? : bryanvlo
  • It rarely instaskills on HS : AlexXdude
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    They want to long range rape like a sniper + mobility. Perhaps they can get a self heal and the ability ... : pigvomit
    • I love spies, they make playing sniper fun :D : daedraug
  • I want it to only count headshots for shots fired when the gun is fully cooled down, not these random spr... : nem00
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    There has been numerous times for me when a clear headshot is not an instant kill. I haven't played for ... : thief
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      the only time it's an instant kill is when it does enough damage to kill the person. it does 102 dam... : manero
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        Oh yeah, I can see that--I just thought, when I first received the weapon, that it was an instant kill if... : thief
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          it hasn't really changed since the update.. i got it as a random drop pretty early when the patch first c... : manero
          • oh and it's a normal crit, not a mini-crit : manero
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            Then where do people get the idea of an instant-kill HS? I assumed that was how it was and then they ner : thief
            • What they nerfed was the fact that in the first day of the patch you didn't actually have to hit someone ... : Zek
  • It isn't instakill, but I also disagree with the original post. I love playing as the Spy, but it doesn'... : Rag and Bone Man
  • Its only around 100 damage. : D45hiz
• We should play TF2 on Dallas tonight. : RyDogg1
• please, let's not make a halo1 style pistol in TF2 : Cheeziologist
• when I first read this I forgot the ambassador was a gun and suddenly hoped they added hunted mode : kaddar0
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  Pr0 pyr0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B170dwf7Z7I : dkrulz
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    Strange but true, but according to the stats, Pyro is the most popular class with Shackers. : RyDogg1
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      Is spy the least popular? I find shackers don't like playing spies all that much. It's funny cause I also... : Geoffrois
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        This is not a surprise but Medics on the shack servers are the least popular. All those "PRO PLAYERS," d... : RyDogg1
        • Medics are rated like that 'cause I stopped playing. Those who can't kill, heal. : Rotten Deadite
      • They probably don't like playing spies because there are too many fuckin pyros : snuff
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      Spy is easier to play on pubs lol. : mrvandelay
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        oh god its so much easier to play on pubs. I can do stuff on pubs with spy that would NEVER ever work on ... : hirez
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          I don't really find this to be true--the only exception is that a shack game more often has a dedicated p... : thief
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            salute the pyro while he's running toward you, and have him NOT spy check you. Shack servers tend to hav... : hirez
            • I don't know, I feel as if the range of skills and experience one sees on pubs are so broad that you tend... : thief
    • i used to play lots of pyro due to my asstacular ping (main reason i played lots of medic too). having to... : Hoax
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      Because she is the best class! : Snuffles-
      • she likes propeller beanies : RikiTiki2
    • i'll confess to adding to that. pyro's by far my most played class : RikiTiki2
    • most only use +mouse1 and the "w" key : Merconium
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    that might work on noob pubs, but on a Shack server for example that won't work at all... : tunis5000
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      All right, let me break this down for you. This guy is literally not aiming, literally not using any keys : Felraiser
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        What do you mean the situation doesn't matter? What if he stacked the server with bots that run in circle... : boomstickah
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          Well, I actually never said the situation didn't matter at all, but I can take a straw man! Pub servers a : Felraiser
          • love it : RikiTiki2
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            Soldier and heavy and demo: while (true) { Player target = nearestTarget(); w(); if ( target.is : Nali4Freedom
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              But you didn't add in the aiming function! Curious how that wasn't needed at all for pyro. Soldier and... : Felraiser
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                then prove it? : RikiTiki2
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                  riki, just accept that you play a noob class. : mwasher
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                    noob. : mwasher
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                      never said i didn't. just think that while he's a pro-gamer, he's not a pro-grammer : RikiTiki2
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                        That's backwards, actually. :P I'm a CS student but definitely not "pro" at any game. That code is not in... : Felraiser
                        • not a pro-gamer?! wtf you had us all misled : RikiTiki2
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                I assumed that's what target=nearestTarget() was. If that doesn't aim at someone, then your pyro code has... : Nali4Freedom
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                  Well, I'll give you that standard pathing isn't in there, so we can assume that for all classes. But this... : Felraiser
                  • There actually has to be someone in that 60 degree cone for that to be effective, the skill of playing pr... : Nali4Freedom
            • lol i love the scout code, that is so true, you usually go left or right of the person and hope for the b... : Chandler55
            • your scout is going to look like a retard, but that's cool. : Agrona
      • That video doesn't mean dick. There are several skillless classes in TF2, why single Pyro out? The onl... : tree8
      • yeah I get that, but I still find it hard to believe that doing this guys "tactics" will actually net you... : tunis5000
      • the demoman can still be considered worse. pipe spam. it BOUNCES. you don't even HAVE to select targets, ... : Downforce
      • Holy shit, I read this after my post above. : Merconium
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      I am fascinated how the shack holds themselves to such a higher standard that public servers. : D45hiz
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        The reason they hold themselves to a higher standard makes the shack typically a better pub to play on th... : thief
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          I honestly feel lately that some pubs I play on are just as good if not better than shack servers. I gue... : D45hiz
          • My point was, now that I read my post, concisely put: The shack is better than a pub because it is more : thief
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        because it's true? not saying that anyone who plays on Shack servers are automatically the bestest playe... : tunis5000
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          Those shackers that played valve are tf2 gods in my opinion. Iced scrubs developers. :D : D45hiz
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            Wasn't valve an easy game? : thief
            • Yes but they improved : D45hiz
  • He's not sticking to the formula! He added a bit: Mouse1+W+MouseWaggle. : Agrona
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    If i saw a pyro running at me like that id take my shot gun out to kill him, I dont play pyros (or any ot... : okellyc
    • i agree. most pyros are played terribly : RikiTiki2
  • funny, but I mean he was playing defense, with a dedicated medic half the time, and half the kills he sho... : ]pm[chem
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  the day I got it, I speculated that a team of all spy ambassadors defending on a CP map could actually sh... : ]pm[chem
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    if. : thief
    • I would love to assemble a crack team of ex-quake players and L4D sharpshooters to test this :P : ]pm[chem
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    Overhealed heavies take like 4 headshots to take down, takes quite a while if you are on your own. : dkrulz
    • well yeah, it's the being 'on your own' part I want to address ;) : ]pm[chem
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  That noob canon needs a nerf badly. It amazes me how easily people can HS with that thing. Same goes for ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    lol, you actually have to aim the ambassador, it isn't easy. The huntsman on the other hand is a much mor... : dkrulz
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      it needs a nerf.. it does not lose enough accuracy after the first shot - it should maybe kick the screen... : e v i l
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        I really hope that is sarcasm, I fully charged an arrow last night and put it through the chest of an und... : arsonide
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          The huntsman is at one edge skill and on the other bullshit luck. There really isn't a median. Most of ... : thief
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            It was designed for pub play, even more specifically pl maps where you can spam the cart and get kills. : dkrulz
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              well, the whole GAME is designed for pub play -- that's why it's so successful. I like it that way. q3/... : ]pm[chem
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                cs:S was most certainly designed for pro play. I was replying to thief's question, but now I'll reply ev... : dkrulz
                • If you're battling a spy you want to use the urine and machete or just the machete or even the SMG works : thief
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                He wasn't talking about this topic, but why does it matter what developers intend for something? If Valve... : Felraiser
                • commenting that a weapon was designed for pub play just seems superfluous. of course it was! : ]pm[chem
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            The reason to use the Huntsman is so you can stay closer to the action, it's pointless to snipe with it. ... : Zek
            • By the way the SMG is really useful when you use the Hunstman. I use it over Jarate and the Razorback(lol... : Zek
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              I loved last night on Badwater on the Shack Server. I had my rifle and I was facing off against snipers ... : redfive
              • Yeah trying to sniper duel is an exercise in futility. You really shouldn't even be attempting long rang... : Zek
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            thief is mostly right. you can make some really great skill-based kills with the huntsman, as headshots ... : ]pm[chem
            • and 5. it looks much cooler, and is more fun because you have to arc your shots through the air. : ]pm[chem
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              It's fun, sure, but my original point I guess is that those reasons for use it aren't good enough in my o... : thief
              • Yeah the fun part gets old after a while. I'd actually like to get more kills. It's why i've gone back to... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            the huntsman is way more fun : mikecyb
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              Yeah, but that's it. A novelty. It's more fun but mostly because it's new to the game. I don't think t... : thief
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                I dunno it's pretty awesome to shoot arrows at dudes and then they have arrows sticking out of them or th... : mikecyb
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                  Well yeah, but as much fun as I have in leading targets -- makes me think of the sniper rifle in RTCW -- ... : thief
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                    even if I was a super awesome sniper I think the huntsman would be more fun, so we will have to agree to ... : mikecyb
                    • I'm just not good enough with the huntsman to get a kill and feel as if I've deserved it, I guess :D, tho... : thief
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                    Shooting arrows in the heads of scouts double jumping in the air = most satisfying kills in the game. You... : pyide
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                      Oh, I don't think it's more satisfying than headshooting a scout as they double jump. The thing with you... : thief
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                        A moving scout is still the hardest target to lead and aim for and hit at range. I'm talking when he's go... : pyide
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                          My point, if it's valid or not, was that I believe a scout double jumping makes it, during that double ju... : thief
                          • Predictability is necessary to lead the target and make contact, I'm just saying it's the hardest to lead... : pyide
        • 6 hours later to reply but i was referring to the ambassador needing a nerf, not the huntsman : e v i l
    • The only thing I truly hate about the huntsman is that a single non-headshot shouldn't kill so many class... : Fayk
  • Huntsman works its best in narrow passages. The walkway on Granary to the last point is crazy easy kills ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I booted TF2 back up after this recent update. And uninstalled it again last night. I should have known... : The_Archon
  • there are plenty of servers that throttle the number of spies and snipers playing : grendel
  • Hahaha...same thing occured with me. All the talk of TF2 got me to reinstall it, then I promptly got rid ... : 5150Joker
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    welcome to "the zerg of new shit". it's fun because there's a HUGE player surge - more targets. : Downforce
    • and lol @ stoutly quitting with 3 more classes to unlock still... : Downforce
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  The Force-A-Nature needs to do more damage. It's just an annoyance really : snuff
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    Yeah it could definitely use a bit more damage, or maybe more of a kick back effect (balance the trade of... : ovrlrd
    • They just buffed its damage by 10%. : Zek
  • The recent 10+ dmg buff has made it a good weapon now. I was using it last night and garnered lots of kil... : Godhatesfatpeople
  • They just buffed it 10% and it seems very powerful. : Pneum0
  • you really do have to get right up in people's faces to be effective with it. consider it a melee weapon... : wendigo
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  Right now it's not really a long range gun at all - headshotting at long range is far too difficult unles... : Zek
  • I disagree completely. The past few days I have been smoking people from long range as they move. : D45hiz
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    I like the ambassador for when you stab someone and have some determined enemy chasing you down. It's to... : thief
    • i love when engies or medics get big balls and try to rush you and you just one-shot them with the ambass... : EvilDolemite
• No, no and SolveChrist is welcome to experiment with other weapons/classes because he must be getting bor... : Lightzout
• By the way what are you guys' take on the Dead Ringer now? I hate how bad they nerfed it but I'm curious ... : Zek
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  The best Spy unlock is the Cloak and Dagger. It's a great exercise in patience and really fun to use. : dmason
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    It's interesting, just as long as you're not so patient that you spend half the game doing nothing or try... : Zek
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      I like it for taking out L3 teleporters which, when they're L3, hugely influence the outcome of a game. : thief
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        Holy shit, teleporters go to L3 now?! : rosewood
        • and dispensers : RikiTiki2
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          Yeah they can send a person like every 5 seconds or so : snuff
          • faster than that even : mrvandelay
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            It is like a whole new game. : rosewood
            • Yeah L3 teleporters may have been the biggest game changer since the release of the game. : sammyl
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      To be fair, unless you're taking out a very specific target, playing spy doesn't typically (No, not alway... : dmason
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        That's not really true, a kill is a kill. If your score is good you're probably helping, especially if yo... : Zek
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          Scores mean so little in this context. If your goal it to help your team, you're much better off playing ... : dmason
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            With the exception of Medic and Engineer, points = kills. Helping your team basically means killing peopl... : Zek
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              No, points are scored differently for each class. : dmason
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                Not really, Snipers/Spies get point bonuses to reflect the killing of more important targets, and some cl... : Zek
                • I'm of the opinion that the headshot/backstab bonuses are a crude way to approximate the higher amount of... : Felraiser
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                  Points are not given based on importance. 2pts for a backstab. It doesn't matter if the person is AFK or ... : dmason
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                    I realize that, it's just an estimate. But the reason they get it is because backstabs/headshots are capa... : Zek
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                      I completely agree with you there: And that's certainly true in 6v6 scrims but in a pub game all the clas... : dmason
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                        Except thekidd when he plays scout. : omnova
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                          he's just trying to relive his TFC scout glory days : RikiTiki2
                          • this is so true. : thekidd
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    The pace of some maps makes it useless but for more standoff-style maps, it's really fun : Fayk
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      Yeah, I wouldn't use it on maps with a lot of travel time. Using the regular cloak and picking up ammo a... : omnova
      • something. : omnova
  • I've only been able to use it with good success on CTF maps. It's good for very calculated offenses since... : K1Bond007
  • yes... although it drains REALLY fast while moving, which makes infiltrating to the rear a challenge : ]pm[chem
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  I wish the Scout unlocks were more fun. Scout is the only fun class. : Boxelder
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    Yeah, I'm fine with the FAN (despite its flaws, it's fun) but Bonk is pretty crap, and the sandman got ne... : Fayk
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      Agreed, I don't understand why Valve hasn't addressed either of those. Scouts are still absolutely worthl... : Zek
      • bonk actually works great on dustbowl on offense. when scouts try to play defense and bitch, they are doi... : Downforce
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      The sandman still hurts ubers a lot, and makes a sniper's job even easier in some situations. Bonk can di... : pyide
      • Even though it can disrupt ubers, giving up a double (or triple with force-a-nature) jump, sacrificing su... : pyide
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      I think bonk is great for actually scouting the offense/defense. you can tell run into the enemy, find ou... : hirez
      • i like using it to go invincible during humiliation : RikiTiki2
      • I could see it being useful for that if it didn't have slowdown, or lasted longer, or was tweaked in anot... : Fayk
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        oh also: GATE OPENING. holy shit I almost forgot. bonk rules so hard. : Downforce
        • Bonk is a mini uber that you can use every 10 seconds, it's fucking amazing. You get WAY behind their lin... : sammyl
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  They should make it so you can curve the ambassador's bullet trajectory... : legato17
  • this would be amazingly fun, but would likely require a total rewrite of the amb's projectile code : ]pm[chem

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  he just shrugged, turned the box off, and is now building Lego things and is already talking about going : Penis Brittle
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    If he starts playing RPGs, and you do this, you will become the object of his unbridled wrath. : silent prophet
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      He's only five, so RPGs with lots of dialogue and moral choices are a bit beyond him still. : ConfusedUs
      • he's making a brothel in the Sims right now : Downforce
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    That's an easy fix. Stash some porn under his bed. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Or in the woods apparently. : PointlesS76
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  I tried this with my son and he just flips the fuck out whenever the timer hits. He reminds me so much of... : Deathlove
  • Well I did sit here with him, and I pointed out the notifications and such so he KNEW it was happening. ... : ConfusedUs
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  does the xbox give you a warning / message explaining what's going on? or does it just shut off with no ... : FrayLo
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    He plays on my profile. There is a four-button passcode required to access most of what the xbox can do. ... : ConfusedUs
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      How come you didn't make him his own profile? : Dave-A
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        Because our family uses the Netflix Instant Streaming a lot too, and my profile is the only Gold account,... : ConfusedUs
        • Well, that's a pain about NetFlix! Oh well. : Dave-A
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      4 button combination? Hmm...I bet your kid is actually spending his time figuring out all the permutation... : Rice-Rocketeer
      • There's twelve buttons for each of the four spots, assuming just the letters, the shoulder buttons, and t... : ConfusedUs
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  You're a horrible parent. :( : legato17
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    i would do the same thing. i wouldn't want my young kids playing six or eight hours of games a night. : EvilDolemite
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      Ditto, and I love that you can disable the R-rated movies and M-rated games, did not know that. Of cours... : Begawkiness
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        You can disable games and movies at ANY rating level, not just M/R, and you can disable them separately. ... : ConfusedUs
        • You will play only violent, sex-filled games, and you'll LIKE IT, son! : electroly
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      This is what was happening while I was at work. His mother just let him play for hours upon hours. He'd n... : ConfusedUs
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        yeah when he's older he can use his time management skills to balance playing with other responsibilities... : EvilDolemite
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          It's in the living room. No TV in his room at all. : ConfusedUs
          • that's pretty rare these days! : EvilDolemite
          • Yeah, I didn't get a tv in my room till I could buy one myself. : one random winner
          • That's good. : Godhatesfatpeople
          • i still don't have a TV in my room... never did as a kid either : Shadowdane
          • Good. I plan on doing the same. : virus
          • I had one of those tiny black and white portable TVs. I didn't have a computer in my room until I was in... : spazzium
      • My wife's cousin is like this. He actually played COD:WAW with some shackers. He's 9 and schooled most ... : FormerHPB
      • You're making the right decision. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Clearly you're a horrible parent, actually. : virus
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      Not yet, ha. I've never had limits on my gaming time however. I managed to spend a lot of time outside ... : legato17
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        i never had hard limits but my parents were easily able to cut me off when it was apparent i was neglecti... : EvilDolemite
        • Yeah, my consoles were in the living room so my playtimes were always limited. Got a tv in the room late... : legato17
• good job, kids need outdoor time. : Magus
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  Can you setup a schedule? Like during the week maybe 1-2 hours, but on weekends maybe a bit more? : pun][sher
  • If there's a way to set it up by the day, I haven't found it yet. You can limit it to either X hours per ... : ConfusedUs
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  yes, mine gets an hour a day as well we did try not limiting it, but it quickly got out of control :( ... : jcupitt
  • Much smarter way to do it, till they learn self-control and responsibility. : carbontree
  • Yea same here. My friend's kid just complains the whole fucking time he is anywhere outside of his house.... : myfasha
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  does that let him save his game at least? : .Jayson
  • Kind of and it's my only real problem with the family settings. Once the limit is reached, the console is... : ConfusedUs
• only an hour? : GloriousCow

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  get a mac : multisync
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    i have one.. but I do my dev work on my windows system that has two 24" LCDs. I can't hook up my macbook ... : wtf242
    • or just live with one screen being the laptops : MoreVespeneGas
    • get two macs : multisync
• vmware workstation is a good product, not free though : slickdoody
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  pay me in beer and slices of pizza to come set shit up for you. : mwasher
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    I am having a pizza party on Sunday I think. Going to grill some pizza.. probably make some normal pizza ... : wtf242
    • well i'm sure kasey would love to get out and about since she will be back in town. maybe we come over, ... : mwasher
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    also, I actually toyed around with virtualbox last night and saw the issues I think you might be having, ... : mwasher
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      I have wasted hours and hours trying to figure it out. I even tried a bunch of shit i read off of google ... : wtf242
      • it should be easy with vmware server... if you accept all the defaults the only address / port informa... : mwasher
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        i can give you a beating in sf4 : whistletits
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          I came so close to winning my first g2 tourney. was like 70k+ points at stake.. fucking shitty akuma play... : wtf242
          • i slapped that jap back to the mongolian age last time we fought : whistletits
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          fucking best buy never called me today. i am so mad. they better have my phone in the morning. :( : mwasher
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            i think BB only gets shipments on tuesdays : whistletits
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              no they've supposedly been getting pre shipments in every day :\ but when I worked at a best buy we go... : mwasher
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                oh, then they just dont like you. Try the South store. : whistletits
                • i'm next in line on the wait list goddammit : mwasher
• VMWare Server is a good option for this, workstation is an ok option, Player will work, you'll have to ma... : boarder2
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  I'm running a guest XP in virtualbox, and using 'bridged adapter' the guest OS can get it's own IP addres... : JHelgie
  • in theory yes, as that is how vmware server's default networking works. but with linux guest os's i have... : mwasher
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    I can't get "bridged adapter" networking to get an internet connection. Also it never properly gets an in... : wtf242
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      Are you bridging the correct adapter? : terath
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        I don't even know what that means : wtf242
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          wtf242, you're going to need to remodulate the phaser banks on your motherboard to emit tachyon particles... : electroly
          • Don't forget the flux capacitor! : sludge vohaul
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        When you bridge, you need to bridge to a particular network interface. Many computers have two or more th... : terath
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          aaah this might be the prob. I have two that look to be the same exact name. I am reinstalling everything... : wtf242
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            you shouldn't have to reinstall. should be able to just go into the network preferences of virtualbox an... : mwasher
            • I already fucked around with tons of settings and all kinds of linux shit. i would rather start from scra... : wtf242
          • Is this a laptop? One would be your regular nic and the other, wireless. : doomed
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    Vwmare server really is the way to go. The setup isn't too bad. : .frame
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      I'm using vm workstation and running win 2k3 server on it with no issues : yosemiteclimber
      • I've got vmware images for cisco stuff (mars, CSM, mac) win2k3 server, redhat, and xp that all run fine o... : .frame
• the free vmware with NAT or even local networking, then run avahi in linux (bonjour daemon), and bonjour ... : twobeer
• If it has bridging mode, use that. You'll get a proper ip on your local network that way. : terath
• I've always had good success with Virtual PC, which is free. : electroly
• if you can't get it setup and you dont have the hardware to run a headless physical box... http://slic... : rmjackson
• lol : Halen

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  InFamous seems like a must have title. (And like I've written many times before, a reason to buy a PS3 ma... : humbleone
  • It's... fun. But definitely not worth a purchase. It would be a good pickup as a rental. : spazzium
• infamous was fucking awesome. I haven't console'd like that since KOTOR. : Downforce
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  infamous is ps3 only? : agentlead
  • Yep. : David Craddock
  • yep :( : humbleone
• InFamous is the better game. : walker270
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  What do the two have to do with each other besides both being free roaming? I'd like to know. : avatar_58
  • Same basic sandbox + superhuman powers format. They're actually really similar, and both do certain th : walker270
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    The parkour stuff would probably be the main thing. They really are very different games though. : humbleone
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      When did that term come about? I can infer the meaning. Did it start with Assassin's Creed? : spazzium
      • Parkour? The term's been around for around 10 years or so. : walker270
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        It started with Nike Commercials, I believe. Also, District B-13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GpOr... : AxeMan808
        • IIRC the main dude in District B-13 invented Parkour like 10 years ago. : Ctrl-Phreak
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        The first time I saw it mentioned was with these two titles and Mirror's Edge I think. Probably been ar : humbleone
        • Created in 1998, apparently... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_parkour : walker270
      • Are you asking about the term parkour? because that goes back beyond just games - http://en.wikipedia.org... : Jonathan
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        Such ignorance in this thread! : Lone Swordsman
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          Parkour is about movement. Not about sitting in a throne knowing everything. Move along, there is nothing... : humbleone
          • HA! : ninj0rc
      • It's the fucking french's fault. : voodooraze
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  I planned to play Prototype for 15 minutes yesterday, just to see what it was like. Turned into 3 hour... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • You planning on KB+M or gamepad? : project13
• I haven't played Prototype yet, but I just beat inFamous last night and it was fucking rad. : Ctrl-Phreak
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  Prototype is on Impulse for $48.50 and if you own Demigod an email went out with a 20% off coupon for any... : Sailor of Fortune
  • good call...forgot about that coupon. : byorn
• inFamous : fufux
• I'm only 4 hours into Prototype but at this point, definitely inFamous. No comparison. : Edges
• if I had a choice, I'd play inFamous. Prototype, while fun in some ways, just isn't that great. : moe6
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  haven't tried Prototype yet but InFamous is great! : bakanoodle
  • Same, haven't tried Prototype yet so I can't provide any insight there, but inFamous is a great game. : Begawkiness
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  i like prototype better, but i don't think either are that great. : pandastrong
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    What didn't you like about infamous? : ThomW
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      I don't really find the combat / powers to be that interesting. I hate being shot at from all directions... : pandastrong
      • I'm pretty much in this boat : kelerian
• Both. I beat Prototype yesterday, and will continue to milk all the gaming goodness out of it for the nex... : Greymatter42
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  Both are fantastic. I wouldn't purchase either though. : VictoriouSecret
  • So what games DO you buy? : Simulacrum
• I've spent time with both and really like them both but inFamous is without a doubt the better title. Sto... : uglysad
• inFamous is incredible and I'm on my second playthrough. Just doesn't get old. So much to do and accompli... : pturvz
• I have Prototype for the Xbox 360 and I am having a blast. : chuck577
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  infamous by an AU : jayares
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    AU means? : humbleone
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      Astronomical Unit. Roughly 96 million miles : uglysad
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        BAH! 93 Million which is the distance between the earth and the sun : uglysad
        • Ah thanks. Its called AE here (Astronomisk Enhed). Also, for those not using miles.. here it is in ki... : humbleone
• Different strokes for different folks. I'd try them both and return the one you don't like as much. : silentw
• InFamous without a doubt. : warcrow
• red faction : voodooraze
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  red faction : CoRDS
  • YES! : voodooraze
  • Really? Psht. : pturvz
  • playing that right now, its badass. : jayares
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    red faction is miles better than prototype, but I liked infamous better, red faction has multi though, bu... : klearlyunseen
    • The environment looked really boring, so I stayed away : byorn
• InFAMOUS RULES : AlexXdude
• having beaten both, DEFINATELY go with infamous, holy shit go with infamous, prototype is so repetitive a... : klearlyunseen

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  -UNTAPPED- Shadowrun This is pure MMO gold in my opinion: you have a great setting (gritty cyberpunk ci : etherboy
  • Under the "Mechwarrior" guise, I could totally see a Gundam MMO. : one random winner
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    I'm all for a Mechwarrior reboot. I miss this franchise. : kelzmelzer
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      just as long as its mechwarrior and not mechassault : Sparticuse
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        You mean BattleTech not MechWarrior : ShadowRam
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          no i mean mechwarrior. battletech is the table top game, mechwarrior is the simulation pc game. : Sparticuse
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            Simulation was based off BattleTech... After MS bought out FASA, BattleTech was gone, and 'MechWarrior' w... : ShadowRam
            • mechwarrior may have lead to mechassault, but as you can see by the names, they still arent the same thin... : Sparticuse
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      yes, this is long overdue. they need to return to the simulation-style gameplay of MW2. : dirge23
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        Absolutely, although Mech3 was my favorite. MW2 Mercenaries was a game I grew up on (I still listen to i... : kelzmelzer
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          i can't remember 3 as clearly. what i really want is a game where a "star" of players set up in a lob... : dirge23
          • Heavy Gear 1/2 was kinda like that... The multiplayer was REALLY fun for me at the time... 56k dial-up... : etherboy
          • That's like the one EA was working on, MPBT 3025, but they cancelled it : Penis Brittle
        • What was wrong with MW4? : SigENeaT
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      The MechWarrior many of us loved is DEAD. Any new MechWarrior will be an arcadey abortion, as any atte... : carbontree
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        If FASA (who now have the rights back) and a decent developer teamed up, it could be a really good refres... : etherboy
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          Doesn't Microsoft own FASA? : The_Archon
          • They either cut it off/closed it or something, but I meant the original FASA founders when I said FASA so... : etherboy
  • I'd love a shadowrun mmo. god that would rule. : AMikaboshi
  • i would imagine Shadowrun being like a better version of AO. i played AO for about 2 years and was such a... : m0rfus
  • The license is not in flux for Shadowrun to my knowledge. Microsoft owns the rights for any digital repre... : spl
  • I've always said a Shadowrun MMO would be orgasmic. Maybe it's up to me to see it come to life in the nea... : freakynipples69
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    there was one many years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_BattleTech_3025 it was fun, a... : xenophobe
    • maybe i should read more of the sub-threads before i post : xenophobe
  • Shadowrun is just... duh, why hasn't someone done this already. What I really want is an MMO with a rich... : TShandy
• STALKER could be cool. : ADSliv
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  I think a WoT MMO could be cool. They'll mangle it, but the world has the potential. Malazan's world i... : Ebu
  • They're making a WoT movie right? I never read the books (heathen scum that I am) but I hear it's a fa... : etherboy
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  Fallout MMO. I hear there is/was something in production and I'd like to see it really take off. I thin : jingletard
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    I think this one is already in the works? Not 100% sure, but I think I read something about it... : etherboy
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      Yeah, either it was being done by someone other than Bethesda or it got cancelled, I don't remember which... : jingletard
      • Oh I think I remember: wasn't Interplay contractually obligated to release one or something... and they d... : etherboy
  • Interplay is/was trying to make one but Bethesda is trying to/or has already shut it down. : freshyk
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  Heavy Gear Basically a MechWarrior clone (in some ways better)... HG2 was incredible from what I remembe... : etherboy
  • The Heavy Gear universe would allow a lot more room for an MMO : ShadowRam
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  World of Warcraft created a cliche bubble in the MMO world. I hope some game pops it someday : spiderfill
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    That won't erase the traces though, it will always stay cliche like we look back at other lameness now. : StriderNL
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      I don't think we'll ever get to a point where we look back and associate WoW with lameness. No matter if... : Pneum0
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        Totally agree... WoW is definitely the pinnacle of MMO development at the moment... whether that's goo... : etherboy
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          Ya, it runs on most PC's out there today. Even your grandmothers. Doesn't make the game great, by any mea... : eonix
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            It's all about accessibility. WoW & the Wii are great examples. : eonix
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              yup develop for hardware that has been around for 5 years and you'll sell more, imagine that. : one random winner
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                I know it's cool to rag on popular things, but WoW is popular beyond just being accessible... It has t... : etherboy
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                  It's not a particularly great game though. I only discovered this when I stopped playing a month back. ... : -JLN-
                  • You may not think it's a great game, but it takes more than clever to get millions of people to buy and t... : Pneum0
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    I'd say WoW represents the best and worst of what an MMO can be... On one hand it's extremely polishe... : etherboy
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      That's interesting because I thought Warhammers PVP felt fairly grindy. I only made it to 20 something b... : Pneum0
      • Well I dunno I have about 5 characters... highest is 12? Most around 5-6... I've only been playing a w... : etherboy
    • The endgame of every MMO is a gear grind, unless you're doing PvP. The journey *TO* that endgame thoug... : Vincent Grayson
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic. : freakynipples69
  • EQ created the bubble, but WoW certainly made it the size of the entire world. :( : Frozen Pixel
  • I don't think I agree it created it. WoW certainly perfected the formula, but most MMOs were along the sa... : Arceihn
• I'm interested in CCP's World of Darkness MMO (and subsequently, the next-gen MMO that I think Blizzard i... : das_runt
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  Quest for Glory. : abrasion
  • Quest for Tires : ShadowRam
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  It's a shame the Warhammer IPs aren't ending up in competent hands. Imagine a 40K MMO made by Valve or so... : veras
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    You're a moron if you think Relic aren't competent... Just my opinion though... : etherboy
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      Oops, I think Relic are very competent! Didn't realize or forgot or something that they ended up with the... : veras
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        Didn't mean to come off so derisive either... Also... Mythic are pretty talented too... But yeah a ... : etherboy
        • Relic isn't making the 40K MMO. They are making a 40k action game. Vigil Games is making the MMO. htt... : thejay247
    • Fool. Vigil is the studio that THQ assigned the WH40K MMO to; a dumb, risky move from what I can tell. : Dr_Cube
  • i would like to see a 40K MMO, but not the way WarOnline ended up. : Slowtreme
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    I'm about to give WAR a second go, from boredom. I love the franchise, just couldn't handle the buggy la... : Aztiel
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      Relic/THQ I think... : etherboy
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        Vigil, Relic has just done the Dawn of War games and now Space Marine, no MMO : kungfusquirrel
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          You're right... Putting such a diverse and well established IP as WH40K in the hands of a startup deve... : etherboy
          • Read my mind. I don't know who the fuck these Vigil guys are and their Darksiders game I don't give a shi... : Dr_Cube
• SimCity : Sylvanus
• whatever the next big thing is, I hope it's not another generic Elves / Orcs / Dwarves fantasy theme. : coyoterys
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  Star Wars. The Old Republic trailer looks great and I read an early review, from a non-die-hard gamer, t... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Well Lucas guards his universe pretty closely... so developing in that bubble must be tough... I think... : etherboy
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    Since I have a very high ranking source working on Kotor3. He worked on Kotor1 (in my top 5 all time) so... : Lightzout
    • Bioware's work 2003 and earlier is very, very impressive -- NWN was amazing for its time. But Jade Empir... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I think they should have a microtransaction option. I think they are asking for trouble if they require a... : Dr_Cube
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  I always through an MMO styled after The Road Warrior would be cool. : pres589
  • there was an mmo based around vehicle combat in post apocalyptic setting. it didn't last long (auto assau... : whereiwannab
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  Old Republic and APB are very high on my radar right now. Hope they turn out solid. : kungfusquirrel
  • I think APB is going to bomb. : Dr_Cube
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  Still looking forward to Jumpgate Evolution. MMO Space Sim? Yes Please. : carbontree
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    I'm guessing EVE Online is not your cup of tea? I hope Jumpgate is good too... I miss Earth and Bey : etherboy
    • I played it for a couple of months. TWICE. The gameplay just does nothing for me, though I do greatly ... : carbontree
    • the fact that E&B got shut down jaded me against ea more than anything else. : xenophobe
  • that or this one http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/14074/Black+Prophecy+Trailer one of these would be... : xenophobe
  • That or Black Prophecy. I hope that least one of these is good, not so much because of the MMO part but ... : FlatlineDixay
• This is getting a bit out there, but if anybody has read the Takeshi Kovacs series by Richard Morgan, I t... : Aztiel
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  Zombies... zombies versus humans... sort of like that web-based game a while back, but in full 3d where... : deathofrats
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    Left4Dead MMO? : etherboy
    • Left4MillionDead : one random winner
    • I think thats called working at Wall-mart, : Lightzout
  • Urban Dead : ImageOmega
  • Anything really based on a post-apoc scavenging universe would really get my gears grinding. : TShandy
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  The CCP/White Wolf World of Darkness game has a lot of potential to be awesome. They have one of the cool... : Psigun
  • Totally off my radar... off to check it out now... : etherboy
  • I'd love to see World of Darkness turned into something cool. They created a really neat universe then r... : hawkeye
  • This will probably be the next MMO that I play. As for the Fallout MMO. I just don't think it's possib... : Melignus
  • yes, yes, and more yes. : dahanese
  • Yeah I'm very interested to see what they do with it, should be very cool. : node
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  Rifts? RIFTS! : The_Archon
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    this would be an awesome mmo : Sparticuse
    • Agreed. I think it's got huge potential. : Dr_Cube
• i always had this idea where you were contracted alien infestation fighters and you take missions in spac... : gyokuro
• I am surprised no one says Deus Ex but I huess we all know they would fuck it up if they can't even make ... : Lightzout
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  Dune Get a bit of Frank Herbert up ya! I imagine any game would absolutely mangle the story though... st... : etherboy
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    There's not much freedom in the Dune universe though. It'd be impossible to give players the freedom to ... : hawkeye
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      The restrictions on travel in the Dune universe would mean that you would have to be limited to a single ... : Melignus
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        i disagree. you just have to choose your setting. making it during the butlerian jihad would fuckin roc... : Sparticuse
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          But travel between planets is still based on the guild isn't it? I'm not an expert on the lore by any mea... : Melignus
          • during paul's jihad he controlled the guild and during the butlerian jihad i don't know how powerful the ... : Sparticuse
      • I guess so... it's just such a great storyline... Could they perhaps travel forward/backward in time a : etherboy
• I hope APB pans out. That game has so much potential. TOR is an obvious one. Relic better be working on t... : Link.
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  I think its been done but what about Mad Max mmo where people fight over fuel depots and can build custom... : Lightzout
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    There was an article on Slashdot a couple of days ago. They made a point that part of the problem with tu... : Melignus
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      Whilst a large population of an MMO will want to be a certain hero (see: Jedi) there's a lot who will pla : etherboy
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        Anyone have a pet uber-sw-lore-nerd we can consult? : Melignus
        • jedi were never "common" the only thing about them that makes them common in the old republic is compari... : Sparticuse
  • Fallen Earth is a post apocalyptic MMO where people build vehicles and fight over resources required for ... : retardhumper
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  I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't come out with a MMORPG for the Wii : rosewood
  • Animal Crossing? : graceofdragons
• MechWarrior : ShadowRam
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  warhammer40k please be awesome : Unleashed
  • Some studio is making it for THQ, all they've done is announce it though. Check Google. : node
• A Netrunner MMO. I have no fucking clue how it work, but something set in that type of universe would be ... : mmogger
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  they should make one based on the matrix : skryte
  • ZING... : etherboy
• Thief : dael
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  Firefly universe. : g0nk
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    meh, to be honest there really wasn't anything special about the universe. Firefly was great because of ... : Sparticuse
    • i agree : Ellissd
    • Yeah, I agree too. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Agreed. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    This. Holy crap I've never thought about it but hot damn, this IP that has a possibility to turn into ... : Melignus
    • They started working on one... I think development was canceled and transferred over to the Buffy MMO? : etherboy
    • I'm pretty sure playing regular people in a relative bland universe without the characters that made the ... : Vincent Grayson
  • I want hands of blue. : cerealSAM2
  • I know personally the man who wrote the original design document for the Firefly MMO. I've read it and i... : knytehawkk
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  Star Trek Online. : orgcaptainnemo
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    Yes! I remember back in the mid 90s when Trek roleplaying online (or simming, as it was called) was huuug : RevRaven
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      Haha. the webcam idea is so wrong, yet so right. : orgcaptainnemo
      • They could just capture the face and put a user requested background and clothing. : one random winner
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  for star wars fans I think SWG was nearly as big a disappointment as the prequels. I have no interest in... : beastrabban
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    Jump to Light Speed portion/expansion was probably the best part of SWG. But apparently you level up with... : Sailor of Fortune
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      yes exactly. it started out shaky, but good enough to keep me interested. Grinding for stuff was horrib... : beastrabban
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        It's strange because I think the thought they'd be more popular by changing it to be more like other MMO'... : Sailor of Fortune
        • lol yeah I rode that wave for a while and was part of the 1%. it was positively insane - I wrote a scrip... : beastrabban
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  Cowboy Bebop : disposition
  • Hopefully is has other jobs instead of bounty hunting. Like being a Repo Man. In Space! : Sailor of Fortune
  • Oooooo! I'd play! Still waiting on my Fist Of The North Star RPG. (the action games backintheday were so-... : AxeMan808
  • this this this, i wanna ship with two grappling claws : Modica Sol Solis
  • This would be pretty epic. : miasma(&)
  • I'll throw Outlaw Star under this banner. It's built to be made into a kick ass game with the magic and ... : melkore
• APB APB APB : NFXFSX
• better to keep shitty knock off mythos for MMO's since they have no depth to explore anyway. I'd hate to ... : thebigbeefsandwich
• A Syndicate MMO would 0wn so fucking hard. Each player is their own corporation and has to deal with bot... : SiW.
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  I want an MMO where I don't need to live a second life in another world to enjoy it :( : hawkeye
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    Have you looked into Second Life? : fuell
    • Another World was good, too. : AxeMan808
• I predict all MMOS will fail under the juggernaut that is WoW ...mostly because people cant let go and mo... : cptstern
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  Cthulhutech MMO would be awesome: http://www.cthulhutech.com/ : Dunwich
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    roll a character.... then get eaten. honestly i dont know how well the creapy, investigation basis of ... : Sparticuse
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      look at terrible beast... go insane and your hair turns white. : not work safe
      • This looks like the place for this: "The only proper endings to a Lovecraft story: 1>Hero dies, fails. 2>... : AxeMan808
  • hahah nice lurking fear newb!!11 lololo : timaste
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  I hope Final Fantasy XIV Online takes lessons from the mistakes and problems brought to light during the ... : fuell
  • you just jinxed it : Sparticuse
  • ug...FFXI was one of the worst MMO experiences I have had. It was pretty and well made, but it was SO PUN... : byorn
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  I know this will aggro a lot of folks but a Pokemon MMO in my mind would be really awesome. It would ... : Darthbrooks
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    I would be all over a Pokemon MMO. It's the logical next step for the franchise. : melkore
    • Nintendo would make massive rape dollars with a wii+ds pokemon mmo. An unreal number of people would buy... : capt tripps
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  I'm anxiously awaiting the American release of Hello Kitty Online. The beta was awesome. : electroly
  • me, mwasher, pancake humper, and D45hiz are going to start a shack Hello Kitty guild if anyone is interes... : electroly
• Naruto would be perfect for an mmo. : d3tached
• Discworld : locater16
• Deus Ex you dickheads : mechanicalgrape
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  Asimov 3-law robot universe. Think of the possibilities. : romulan
  • That sounds like a Sims with android butlers thrown in. : obiquatro
• I'm sure that there will be a Zelda MMO eventually. The LEGO MMO has massive potential. I'd like to see o... : skizl
• Snow Crash : Freon