Left 4 Dead 2 Screenshots Quell the Mob

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  People are not 'pissy' because it more like an 'expansion pack" than a sequel. They are upset because St... : Ras668
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    "But with campaigns still not playable in Versus" - Huh? They're all playable now. : Arceihn
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      Correct, HALF WAY THROUGH the life of L4D1, since it's being replaced in only 6 months - awesome! : abrasion
      • Man, I am filling in gaps in Ras' knowledge over here. I don't much care one way or the other with regard... : Arceihn
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  This is how people campaign, band together and do things with far more reach than they would have alone. ... : Angry Max
  • Calm down there, will ya? I'm not trying to be "cooler than you", so any of that vibe you're getting is d... : three-d

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  #2 - in comes the "Valve PROMISED" rhetoric. No, Gabe did not make a promise, Mr Frodo. : dookiebot
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    Quote: "So we'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll ... : Granzka
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      http://www.videogamer.com/news/valve_details_post_left_4_dead_launch_plans.html "Newell said that Valv... : zdiddy85
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        They are indeed releasing more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements. They jus... : Mad Jack McMad
        • Fuck this logic. It's not "more" if you have to buy another game that is, essentially, a more refined ve... : ReiMomo
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      Oh I see. "promise" right there. Got it! : dookiebot
      • PWNED : MechBFP
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    Please don't spew facts if you don't know what you're talking about, it makes you look foolish and ignora... : bob3578
    • Any hope of being taken seriously went out the door when you said "sheeple." : oO SilentK Oo
• I didn't follow the game enough before release to know that, but it sure as hell doesn't make me any happ... : deadhorse
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  Shack: Will updates for the original Left 4 Dead continue? Chet Faliszek: Looking at Left 4 Dead 1, w... : dumptruck
  • LIES! Everybody here knows it's scientifically proven to be IMPOSSIBLE for Valve to release new content ... : oO SilentK Oo
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  People still listen to Gabe? He claimed an immediately pending release date for HL2, then he blamed the s... : MrAdults
  • this +1 : hyperwired
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    Yeah but they have some games. Which is the criteria I base my purchases on... not "promised" future cont... : dookiebot
    • Well, if you bought L4D for what was there on launch, at retail price, you've got some damn low standards... : MrAdults
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  Gabe Newell never promised. He never made a contract with you gamers. What he did, as CEO of Valve, st... : A Trusted Friend
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    It's tough for me to see so many people on this boycott, with the software development industry full of m... : Tauru
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      True, but Valve has no shareholders nor subsidiaries. It's 100% privately owned. : 0mar
      • Private corporations have shareholders. : andre GiANT
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      If that's the case Valve better start charging for all the TF2 updates that keep coming. : YummiGummi
      • The point is they _should_ be charging for the TF2 updates. What other company would give so many updates... : athmpsn

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  Remember to wipe your chin, sir. : The_Archon
  • i think he got a lil on his chest as well : Angry Max

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  Because the Shack probably knows the boycott is completely ridiculous? : churgen
  • You know what's completely ridiculous? Reporting every little fucking update they do for TF2. Oh, but I... : deadhorse
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    Let's see here: Shacknews Left4Dead: 981 members, 43 in-game (4.5% of all members) L4D2 Boycott: 22,3... : Rooster Cockburn
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      Official Left 4 Dead Group: 142,618 Members Does it look a little sillier now? : WillsJB
      • what? : flasher 907
      • No. Actually, 6% of the official L4D group is much more than I'd have expected. : Arceihn
    • Nope. Still retarded. Sorry. : wytefang
  • or because they are good friends with valve crew? : Angry Max
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  Boycott is what? 5 - 10,000 people? With sales of 2.5mil ( http://www.edge-online.com/news/102/left-4-de... : DaMojo
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    The "official" L4D2 boycott on the Steam Community page is at 22,000 members now (was at 18,000 yesterday... : gokwyjibo
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      Almost all the boycotters are going to buy L4D2 when it gets discounted to $20 anyway. So in the end @ $2... : dookiebot
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        They'll buy it anyway. The people who care enough to boycott the game are the ones who care enough to buy... : -JLN-
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          Let me guess, you didnt pay full price for L4D. : bob3578
          • Paid full price on release day. : -JLN-
      • boycotts are little more than saying you disagree with a decision. i don't expect any of them to not buy ... : flasher 907
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      Just a thought: When you consider the usual Sensible Rational People to Whiny Dipshits ratio of most o... : MeestaNob
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        Just like online petitions or facebook groups, the numbers in this boycott group are meaningless. Sinc... : evildanish
        • You gotta remember the fact that internet itself brings the ability to assemble instantaneously. That's ... : Xulu
• They need to create an e-petition! : ermac
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  "By god I like the setting," are you crazy?!?! sunshine, bright colors, tropical hawiian shirts?? this... : roont
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    It's a setting for people who aren't retarded pre-teens such as yourself. Please do us all a favor and ne... : MechBFP
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      wtf are you talking about? It's a valid opinion and insulting him for it is incredibly juvenile. : deadhorse
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        I guess you were too caught up in being a stuck up snob to read his post eh? : MechBFP
        • dude... stop. : c0v3rt@speakeasy.net
        • HIS post? George is gettin upset! How the fuck am I a snob? Please explain that. Calling someone a re... : deadhorse

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  And while we're at it, whoever was sitting around and thinking "Hey, let's take one of the most atmospher... : Rooster Cockburn
  • Grr!!! : Begawkiness
  • So, not only is it not different enough, it's also too different??? : warthog
• Very nice. This is called a sequel. This is not a new game. Fixed. : Pulveri
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  L4D was not a beta. L4D2 is not an expansion. : dookiebot
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    Elvis is not dead! And DNF is out soon, very soon. : FiReaNG3L
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      And the moon landing was faked! And a plane really didn't crash into the pentagon. : dookiebot
      • and the moon crashing on pentagon was faked! and plane didn't really land. : Unkei
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  Nope, sequel. It's like saying all the NHL, Madden's, etc. etc. are expansions. : eonix
  • even though ppl bitch about those games.. new stuff gets changed every year, like new players and differe... : lolnub
  • You're absolutely correct. This is an "EA" sequel, not a "Valve" sequel. : carbontree
• Yeah! Fuck DOOM 2! : booyaka

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  Want some cheese with that whine? How very erudite of you, though. I just loved the reasons you listed... : zarathustra2k1
  • Here's one: Monotony As much as I enjoy the game, it can get pretty dull after a little while. Plus ... : deadhorse

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• Awesome : bigginsmicginty
• this is PERFECT! xD : Unkei
• Best use of that scene so far :) : fadetofunk
• lol .. that was hialrious. : YummiGummi

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• L4D is going south : Unkei

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• I am definitely paying $20 for this. Can't wait. : Unkei

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  haha perfect. The only people telling us to stfu are the guys who bought it on a 25-50% off weakend at S... : zdiddy85
  • So true. : Nn010385
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    Horray for sales. : StolenNosferatu
    • and sellouts :P : lolnub
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  Valve's Chet Faliszek: I think all this, oh, Valve's going to make Maddens every year--that's not true. T... : Chris Faylor
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    Shacktag faylure, but you get the idea. Who knows what will happen. : Chris Faylor
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      the more i read the more i get the impression the original left 4 dead was the real cash cow and this new... : lolnub
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        I have had more fun playing this "experiment" then anything since quake 3. If L4D1 was just an experime... : erebus
        • may i recommend you to try a four assed hooker : Unkei

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  The colors on his shirt seem to clash with.... just about everything else. : Nn010385
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    Ummm, perhaps that's by design? : dumptruck
    • I find the clots unnecessary given the shape of the character. Fucking racists. : packav
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  I'm guessing/hoping those will be redone because the L4D1 skins look tons better : MuteMode
  • agreed! : Unkei
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  It's some lame High School football Coach shirt, that's how they are. : DM7
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    Yeah, it's called Visual Contrast people. What do you think a day care looks like during a zombie apocal... : Tauru
    • Besides hilarious : Tauru

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• no doubt they owe me money to play this. WHERE'S MY CHECK VALVE? : sm00v3d
• I was done with Valve when Half Life 2 wasn't free! : dookiebot
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  If my next car isn't free I'M DONE WITH FORD! (see how silly that sounds?) : vertdang
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    Yes very silly. You're actually thinking of buying a ford. : Cashh
    • As opposed to a Pontiac. : The_Archon
  • I don't think you saw what he did there. : Mad Jack McMad
  • HAHA YES I DO! Your comparing the purchase of a Video game to purchasing of a car? That is silly. ... : L0xx
  • So, here's your Ford. If you want to have a stereo system though, you will have to buy it FOR THE FULL C... : Syrek

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  it was a good mod nothing more : Frush81
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    Reply to yourself some more. : MechBFP
    • is there a way to edit? ok thanks : Frush81
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  Usually people who start off with comments like this end up abmitting later that have played 100+ hours. ... : dookiebot
  • Lol I dont think I even played 10hour a friend of mine bugged me to death to buy it I had no interest in ... : Frush81
  • Actually, just shooting zombies endlessly on the same set of maps can get dull after a little while. I k... : deadhorse

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  You won't even need to wait that long. I got L4D for $20 on Black Friday. A couple weeks after that Steam... : sm00v3d
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    This. First one was worth the 20. I would feel ripped off for full price. : TheGamer11
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      How about if you bought it 6 times at full price? : unjustend
      • Who would do something that stupid? : MechBFP

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  furthermore i think part of it is the DLC pedestal that valve has placed itself on, so even though everyo... : hyperwired
  • I think that's exactly the problem. L4D2 is inconsistent with Valve's record (with TF2), and it makes ... : zehh
• Because TF2 was easier to support with free small upgrades while L4D wasn't (takes entire new campaigns, ... : A Trusted Friend

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• Its called opinion and they are valid just like yours. (Except don't tell them its an opinion or they ... : dookiebot
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  Are people upset that this isn't enough to justify a sequel? I'm upset because of the time-frame between... : deadhorse
  • People are upset at different things- but in the end want it as a free upgrade or $10 expansion tops. Scr... : dookiebot
  • This is exactly why I'm upset as well. : TGammet
  • Yeah exactly. : SenorSpine
  • There have been updates. People whine when they have to wait for things like Ep3 and you are whining beca... : dumptruck
  • Stop beating yourself, we've heard these arguments before. ;D : DM7
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  Sequels aren't built in 12 months, expansion packs are. It's 100% absolutely about timeframe. : jimmy-buffett
  • More than one dev team maybe? Good business maybe? : dumptruck
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    If they'd taken 24+ months to put this out, people might just shrug and say "Time to move on to the next ... : MeestaNob
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      Expansion packs offer less content than the original game. This here (L4D2) offers more. Charging less m... : Mad Jack McMad
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        "Expansion packs offer less content than the original game. This here (L4D2) offers more." See, that's... : deadhorse
        • L4D had enough to make people play it for hundreds of hours, and then we got even more stuff for free. : Mad Jack McMad
• I'm just upset because I was expecting news on something like Episode 3, and instead I get an announcemen... : Nn010385
• You still don't get it do you? This is all about promises that were made that are being put into the next... : bob3578
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  Quake 3 and 4 were just fucking mission packs that added what Quake2 was obviously missing and they shoul... : Lunaran
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    i detect your sarcasm, but it's hardly a fair comparison. q3 and q4 were both completely new engines. If ... : flasher 907
    • I don't entirely get the moaning. As far as I see it, you could (and probably will) spend £40/$50 on... : -JLN-

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• The inclusion of Tesla towers more than validate RA's existence. : packav
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  Time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell... <Cue Hell March> : Sailor of Fortune
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    God I loved that song. One of the only game songs I listened to by itself (out of the game). : oO SilentK Oo
    • It's my ringtone!! Can always tell a fellow RTS gamer when they hear the song and their heads start bo... : WTHInac
• Games were much different back then. For one thing, we didn't expect so much from sequels and games didn... : 0mar

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• No, because then they wouldn't have a bunch of whining and free press and media coverage for doing nothin... : Sir_Brizz
• I agree. Oh, but they need to keep pumping out more lame updates for TF2. Where's TF3 guys? : deadhorse
• That'd be a great idea actually. I think the boycott is a little much if they are asking for this to be i... : Omega Blue
• an expansion is just as bad. the result effect is two groups; one who buys it and one who doesn't. a spli... : flasher 907
• Think of it as a stand alone expansion : Josiahs_hand

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• lol : lolnub
• :) made me lol out loud for real : Fuzzdad
• his shirt is really odd looking. models can change though. remember the original L4D ones? hopefully t... : pyide
• nice lol : Josiahs_hand

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• i'll buy it regardless but it was a lame decision on valve's part and it's costing them not in dollars bu... : flasher 907

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• i do not understand the ridiculous accents part. : sheepraper
• I don't understand the "excited" part. : zdiddy85

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• Gonna cost you $50. 5 new campaigns, new AI Director, more weapons...mmmyeah. It's a "new game." : Egretsan