E3 Morning Discussion: with a Vengeance

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  Still no word from id Software. :[ : CrustaR
  • I'm not expecting anything from them. :( I thought they'd be promoting the hell out of Wolfenstein. : freshyk
  • It seems like expecting much from them or Blizzard is silly since they each have their own entire events : derelict515
• No id or Valve for me. Then again id has quakecon so I'm not that disappointed. : PointlesS76
• Everyone going nuts over stupid motion sensor gimmicks. : baronzemo78
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  MAG still makes me want a PS3. It seemed like they just chose a poor way to demo it. If I was in a squad ... : cfalcon
  • I'm bummed that we didn't get any info on Episode 3 from Valve. I also haven't seen any BFBC2 gameplay... : cfalcon
  • They announced it at last E3, so really they got the benefit of the doubt there. This E3 should have bee... : pigvomit
  • totally made me want to get a ps3 for sure, even with that lacklustre demo. : moe6
• Where's my Pilot Wings for Wii? : WhatIsThisFor
• The first minute of the Alan Wake trailer reminded me of Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, thats probably not ... : fen boi
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  I'm pretty sad that the Big Boss MGS game is on PSP. I wasn't a fan of Portable Ops at all and it looks l... : veras
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    So far, both Big Boss MGS games have had terrible names. First Snake Eater and now Pisswalker? : pigvomit
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      What? MGS3 was awesome.. : razlebol
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        Yes it was... Snake Eater? Bad name. : pigvomit
        • Yeah, I missread :/ : razlebol
        • Snake Eater is a sweet name. The whole game was fucking sweet. Eating snakes, running around the jungle i : sigpro
  • It looks much better than Portable Ops, so I'm not sure the complaint. : Link.
• no Deus Ex 3, Alpha Centauri 2 : deviantpaul
• as good as dice and infinity ward are these socom developers arent amateurs : Chandler55
• valve needs to make a valve-con. : whereiwannab
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  I really expected more from Valve. Nothing against L4D2. I'm not disappointed in that, I just expected Ep... : K1Bond007
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    How could you not be disappointed in the L4D 2 announcement? That's literally the LAST game I wanted to ... : treefingers1
    • L4D is probably the easiest for them to spit out a sequel of, though. The rest will take a decent amount... : walker270
    • Because even though I expected more from Valve with L4D, to say I didn't get my money's worth out of it w... : K1Bond007
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    Valve is not done with announcements yet :) : -sk-
    • oh ho ho...What say you little birdy??? : Godhatesfatpeople
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      valve acquires dnf confirmed : Chandler55
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        oh shi... could they 'publish' it to steam only and do an end around on Take2? : hirez
        • hirez your wife is a lawyer don't pretend you think this is possible! : mikecyb
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        Will be packed as an extra to Portal 2 : locater16
        • PORTAL 2! just thought I'd emphasize that for you : Jobos
    • !!! : buzzbat
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      have I ever told you, that you're my hero? : hirez
      • he can kiss away the pain : Bamtan
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      Episode TRIPPLE : GloriousCow
      • This would be lovely. : spazzium
    • ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : deviantpaul
    • counter-strike 2! : GrimmyD
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      ....where's the big valve announcement? D: : GrimmyD
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        All L4D2 content will be available as an update to original L4D owners. : one random winner
        • With a $30 fee. :-P : Altanar
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    How about a motherfucking engine update? When CSS and HL2 first came out I remember thinking they looked... : Wheatloaf
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      Less engine updates. More game stuff. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Source looks like poo these days. Should be different teams anyway. Same with Steam. : Wheatloaf
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          I still think it looks great due to great art and character design. TF2 is one of my favorite looking gam... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            Well, I'd say it looks great considering it's based on a 4 year old engine. It really needs to be comple... : deject
            • And that's why I'm fairly happy with it. The continual upgrades have really sharpened a lot of areas for ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            TF2 looks fine. Your eyes are broken on your other points, though. Their engine wasn't even top notch o... : Wheatloaf
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              Throwing piss at people is a god damned hoot. And my eyes are fine. : Godhatesfatpeople
              • needs more screaming eagle! : Toraz Chryx
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      I suspect that after Episode 3 is released Source will get a big makeover. : K1Bond007
      • Yep, Source still has legs. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Ep3 updated the engine a bit. : crummynz
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  DNF is finished, gone - let it go, RIP, goodnight sweet prince, lest we please can we forget? : abrasion
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    There's always next year. : pigvomit
    • If I weren't on my iPhone I'd copypaste a link to the wikipedia page for battered wife syndrome. : chrisschutz
    • I would not be upset if I never heard mention of it again. : abrasion
    • lol'd : jamesray
    • and the year after that : thebigbeefsandwich
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    I'm still holding out that it is a PR ploy - especially since they were not at this years E3 I expect the... : Porkasaurus
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      worst PR ploy ever : electroly
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        pretty tricky how they actually fired people n all : crummynz
        • getting sued was the best part. man T2 is gonna have egg all over their faces lmao! : mikecyb
    • The DNF gold announcement will be made by Andy Warhol. : deject
    • It's not, it's over,... please R.I.P : abrasion
    • Let it go. : dognose
    • you can't be serious : derelict515
• The whole thing. : DOOManiac
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  everything im looking forward to is coming out 2010 : mindshot
  • this is why I stopped caring. oooo a game I can buy in 18months? wow! I'll just wait till the week b... : hamachi
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  No Beyond Good & Evil 2 from Ubisoft. Fuck Ubisoft. : Link.
  • there's still time :( : mikecyb
• I think some devs thought it was gonna be that regular boring E3 from the last couple of years instead of... : mrwolf710
• Oh.. and Max Payne 3. It's coming 2009 so where's the trailer!? Tomorrow maybe? Need this stat so I can e... : K1Bond007
• I hoped Mag was made by Treyarch, then it might be good. : mnsnota

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• They could have at least made the heart and diamond icons red. : Bull
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  ace of diamonds : busdriver3030
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    Oh? I would think 4 of hearts. : Conan
    • i think you're right : busdriver3030
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      I'm not sure how Colin knows it's the 4 of hearts and not the QH or 5D. : Sze Ior
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        Colin knows It's red, so he knows it has to be AQ45. Hence, he knows it's not J7632. Therefor, since A : Conan
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          You didn't address the question. How does Colin know it's not QH or 5D? : Goncyn
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            Yeah, this is the problem. I think it's flawed. : [fry]
            • Gegtik you cocksucker you broke my brain over a flawed puzzle. : [fry]
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            cause he knows that val knows the card is red then its QH or 5D, where as if its black then its QC or 5C.... : re4ctor
            • this man speaks truf. : cerealSAM2
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              Can you please write this out so it makes sense to someone who doesn't already know it? : Goncyn
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                No, I think I figured out what you're trying to say, but it doesn't follow. Colin knew Val did not kno : Goncyn
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                  Yeah, I'm still stuck on the logic of the last part. \= : shyguy74
                  • you're stuck because it's a bullshit puzzle and gegtik deserves to die : [fry]
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              Has anyone figured out what this means. Colin knows the card is red, and based on the answer Val gave...... : Datrick
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                Colin knows the color is red; this means none of the *values* that appear only once is the card. The onl... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                  Which is how Val knows what the card is, since the stranger told him the value and Colin "tells" Val that... : arhughes
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                    I didn't read the sentence that states now Colin knows which card it is. Thinking again. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
                    • colin is a goddamn fucking telepath and knew all along : kungfusquirrel
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                      I don't see how Colin can know which card it is. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
                      • I don't either and I'm anxiously awaiting tomorrow's post : boring gegtik
            • wow guess I didn't explain it well.. I dunno it makes sense too me :/ : re4ctor
        • Yeah, its not The ace because there is no way for Colin to tell which is which, because he knows that it : conandan
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          To show that this is flawed, just allow for Val being told the card's value is 5. It must be allowable. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
          • Unless "telling value" means AKQJ are all reported as 10. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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            that doesn't prove anything : boring gegtik
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              It proves that 5 is just a valid answer as 4. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                it proves you don't know what premise Val is going by and you chose a random card out of the bunch to say... : boring gegtik
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                  you realize we're not going to get a real answer tomorrow, right, because there isn't one. it's impossibl... : [fry]
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                    it is from a blog called "Futility Closet" :( : Modulus
                    • Exactly. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                  Allow for a moment for 5 to be what Val was told. Does it invalidate any of that conversation? : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
                  • Answer: no. Therefore Scotty Colin doesn't know. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
                • We know the premise Val is going by (or at least one possible way). We don't know the premise Colin is go... : ieGod
• it's the 4 of hearts : bRAINsick
• i dont : nomaad
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  THE ACE OF SPADES THE ACE OF SPADES!!!! *air guitar* : r3dn3ck
  • lol : ofcedeot
  • Find the Battalion of Saints cover of that. It's blistering. : dognose
  • you're not supposed to have fun with that puzzle. : Klebold
• four of hearts without looking at anyone elses answers. : cerealSAM2
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  How does anyone in that convo know its red? The colour of the card isn't mentioned once in the entire con... : eonix
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    If the stranger told Colin the color was black then Val could have known what the answer was because blac : arhughes
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      There are no black aces, only red. That invalidates your 2nd sentence. : cerealSAM2
      • That is correct, I should have said "all the red cards are duplicate values of other cards." The conclus... : arhughes
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    Yeah, that's not the way to solve it. The first step is to remove the unique value cards, which leaves ... : cerealSAM2
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      Val knows it's one of the eight cards that are not unique values. Col knows it's one of five reds. The ... : cerealSAM2
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        NONE OF THIS explains how colin knows the answer and it won't because it's a bullshit problem : [fry]
        • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20079100#itemanchor_20079100 : kungfusquirrel
      • But there are 3 cards in the intersection of those two sets. : arhughes
• its like a convo between Ignignokt and Err : smax
• The card trick is just a distraction to hide the fact that the stranger has his dick out and is excited b... : PointlesS76
• I disagree with everyone posting here, but I might be wrong so I'm going to write out my thinking. [edit : Grumbeld
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  The only way this works is if "color" really means "suit". If so then the answer is 5 of diamonds. If the... : Delusional
  • ^^^^^ I think this is the flaw of the problem : OverloadUT
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    It could still be any of the non-ace red cards. Even if you change the wording from 'color' to 'suit', Co : Sze Ior
    • No, the puzzle is solvable if color becomes suit. It works as follows: Val knows the value of the car... : lechuck59
• To reiterate: the puzzle is fucking broken unless color means suit. : lechuck59
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  Does the first statement (Val's) have any relevance to the problem? Because I don't see it. She says "I d... : shyguy74
  • No, you're right, Cal doesn't learn anything from Val's first statement. : lechuck59
• I dunno, but their conversation reminds me of those two weird kids from Home Movies : Home Nugget

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  i asked the same question a few weeks ago and the answer is no, you pretty much just need to get the stoc... : [fry]
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    They should just raise the price $99.99. Or, hell, give me a downloadable virtual PS2 : Ebu
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      Yeah, I'd honestly pay more for the BC model and sell my current one, it would mean no PS2 in the house t... : abrasion
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        But if you just keep your PS2 and go with the non-BC PS3, you could hook up the PS2 to another TV in anot... : LemonJoose
        • And what if that doesn't matter? I'd rather have one less device and better quality output. : Fred Garvin
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          I don't have any use for that, I just want a nice single console doing it all :/ also I can't believe I'... : abrasion
          • sorry, wireless controllers. : abrasion
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      Or, just buy a PS2. They are pretty cheap now. $99 at Target for the Slim. http://www.target.com/Play... : IHATEDUST
      • I have a PS2. I want to use my hard drive as memory, my wireless controller, and my HDMI connection. : Ebu
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  If you want BS the only choice you have is used or pony up the big bucks http://www.amazon.com/PlaySta... : sigpro
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    Oops I mean BC. : sigpro
    • works either way : Chandler55
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    They don't sell that here >:( : abrasion
    • I haven't seen that in stores, but I haven't looked too hard. I just have a non working 40g and also a re... : sigpro
  • Wow, I'm surprised they still have those around. : Sirus2400
  • Wow, that is very tempting. : Ebu
• fuck that shit brickmatt, just buy TW 10 for the 360 instead. : Degenerate
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  I think I'm going to be in the market for a PS3 soon but I want a PS2 also. Goddamit sony. : freshyk
  • i wonder if they could make it BC with just a firmware update..... : mindshot
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  Dell's got a deal on it right now: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/21371/Dell-Home-Playstation-3-80GB-... : midgetherder
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    Damn that's tempting. Looks like Uncharted/160 GB bundle is on sale for $400, but out of stock :-( : Head Rush
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      There is one is the store I work at. : rlc:tk
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        but no discount :( and I'd have to ship it :( : rlc:tk
        • aww, thats cool, I'll find one elsewhere or wait for the slim. Thanks though! : Head Rush
• :] : mittense
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  How badly do you want the BC? I'm getting mine fixed, but I don't really need the BC anymore, and woul... : Vincent Grayson
  • You ain't snipping my tubes! : chiisu81
• just buy a slim PS2 along with it : .Jayson
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  man fuck you!!! : Mr.SEX
  • It's killing me here. : brickmatt
• From the experience of a ps3 owner. Don't do it man. I only did it because I was working at EB at Christm... : doublechan
• I think I'm going to get a 360 (again). Shadow Complex is going to be the tits. : pyide
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  There's no way I'm buying one now with the slim rumors. I can wait until 2010 if necessary then GoW3 will... : derelict515
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    I'm also looking forward to the slim version. : Mmmmmoo
    • yeah, there are definitely titles accumulating that I want, but a slim for $300-350 in the holiday season... : derelict515
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    What's the point of a slim? Smaller? It isn't like these PS3s are failing. So why wait for a slim? : brickmatt
    • Cause the PS3 is a beast. : IHATEDUST
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  I'm really surprised that Sony didn't announce a price cut. Hopefully they'll drop it soon. $300 is my ... : Altanar
  • That's not even two extra games over the lifetime of the system... : Ebu

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  The E3 floor is open today for the first time. The last two days are just conferences. : OverloadUT
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    (and the floor is where booth babes are) : OverloadUT
    • Where's id??? : CrustaR
  • ohhh so the floor is finally open yay. : chilln
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  Oh god. No reporting on booth babes? What will we ever do? Jesus christ. : mittense
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    Overreact much? All he gave was two observations that he felt was unusual especially considering he thoug... : OverloadUT
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      That probably read harsher than I spoke it in my mind, but I think booth babes being one of the things th... : mittense
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        Do you even use shacknews? Of course it's one of the things gamers take away, it's HOT CHICKS. : quadeh
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          It's hot chicks presented in the most awkward way possible, which I don't really find hot. : mittense
          • yeah, they should find something meaningful that would reach their target audience better. unfortunately ... : zerog83
          • 7.5/10 : coyoterys
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  Booth babes are just embarrassing. : Evil Benius
  • embarassing feeking awesome : CrustaR
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    You mean embarrassing like this post? : Mrc32
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      Yes because I am not cool if I do not like jerking off over girls just standing around for geeks to gawk ... : Evil Benius
      • Seriously. : mittense
      • I'm pretty sure most guys drool over scantily clad women : melkore
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        They just perpetuate the stereotype of gamers being nerds guys who never get laid and drool over scantily... : Floppygrandma
        • but they have babes on car expos too :( : ErneX
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        Booth babes are not exclusive to video game conventions. : NexusOne
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          I know and I think they are stupid pretty much everywhere they are used unless at a porn convention maybe... : Evil Benius
          • yes, b/c women are porn : cap n KRUNCH
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        fuck yeah! I prefer to do that shit in private with a pair of binoculars or maybe a telescope! : mikecyb
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          or maybe that new XBox camera, thanks Microsoft! : mikecyb
          • Natal, more like our model here Natalie. SHE'S DRESSED LIKE A CAMERA GUYS. : mittense
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        Wait...are you admitting that you're not a nerd who drools over scantily clad women? : Ovate
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          I enjoy a good looking woman, but I do not need them there to sell me on games. : Evil Benius
          • Need? No. Thoughtful addition? Yes. : Ovate
      • What if they're dressed as game characters and pulling in a crowd to check out their game? : Edges
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        Dude, every respectable industry has booth babes at their conventions. I went to a World of Concrete sho... : pigvomit
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          Are they dressed like slabs of concrete or just attractive women in corporation-branded clothing (most li... : mittense
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            There were plenty of them in slutty, tight dresses. Not corporate uniforms, just girls picked up from mo... : pigvomit
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              Yeah, but at least they're being sex objects in a standard way and not dressed up like a fucking elf or a... : mittense
              • True. : pigvomit
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                You're clutching at straws to make it sound like E3 booth babes are any different than hot women being us... : OverloadUT
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                  Does it sound like I'm providing a ringing endorsement for that too? If it sounds like I'm clutching at s... : mittense
                  • I guess I don't see the booth babes as being in any way more inappropriate than all of the other ridiculo... : OverloadUT
                  • They use women like that to sell cars too, you know? That's even more sad because it reinforces the "hot ... : Wikidd
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            My dad was in the plastic molding and parts manufacturing industry for a while and they had scantily clad... : ieGod
            • well they were mainly the product weren't they ? Look how she turned out ! pretty heh ? its all my work. : barichnikov
      • 9/10 : ieGod
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        I think the stereotype applies to all men and is TRUE. Sex sells. : orgcaptainnemo
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          it also comes off as pathetic and undignified. It suggests that your product isn't compelling enough on ... : Mr.SEX
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            But all products being the same, which is often the case in a crowded market, a booth with attractive wom... : pigvomit
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              it doesn't change that it's still an undignified way to showcase a product. change around the presentati... : Mr.SEX
              • That's really an enlightened way to think about it, however, the realities of a crowded show floor can ca... : pigvomit
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            Really? Really? I mean, REALLY? TV, movies, and all forms of advertising are INUNDATED with sex even if ... : orgcaptainnemo
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              Yes, really. For one thing, we've lost subtlety. "Sex sells" doesn't mean "stick boobs in my face". Have ... : Conan
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                I never said "sex sells" means "stick boobs in my face". However you spin it, if they use any kind of se... : orgcaptainnemo
                • This whole bit is about booth babes, though. I kinda figured it was an implicit endorsement. : Conan
                • it doesn't all boil down to the same thing. some advertising uses sex in clever, subtle, and interesting... : Mr.SEX
              • DING DING DING, we have a winner! : one random winner
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              what is your point? it's ok because it's common? : Mr.SEX
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                No, it's okay because it is simply okay. This isn't a morality thing. : orgcaptainnemo
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                  i'm not bringing morality into this at all, i feel that it isn't a powerful or effective way to highlight... : Mr.SEX
                  • In the end, is anyone even doing a top ten list of booth babes, on the serious side of games journalism? ... : Sailor of Fortune
          • this is why beer commercials are looked so down upon. they try to use hot girls to get us to buy their be... : handofthrawn
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            Says mr sex? : RikiTiki2
            • yes : Mr.SEX
        • you are so wrong. every event for any form of entertainment should be masked in gender neutral colors. i ... : handofthrawn
      • hot chicks at car shows should go too. because i know so many girls who dont know what E3 is are hardcor : handofthrawn
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        Booth babes have two purposes: 1. To entertain people like me. 2. To draw attention to the product.... : mace
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          I know what they are for and I pretty much take it as an insult. Apparently I will not be interested in y... : Evil Benius
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            The actual content is the after effect. Booth babes draw your attention that direction. Then your focus i... : mace
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              Not really effective at all since I would pretty much ignore them. : Evil Benius
              • Your drawing attention to them with every post in this thread. : mace
          • Companies that do these conventions have a fairly good understanding of what makes a successful booth and... : pigvomit
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        So then you think every NWS post on the shack is dumb, since this is a game website and the NWS posts hav... : Mrc32
        • Yes that is exactly what I said. : Evil Benius
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          Your analogy is broken. : mittense
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            Because you said so? Great debate. : Floppygrandma
            • No, because a proper analogy would be people coming to Shacknews to advertise their games and, aside from... : mittense
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            So gawking over hot chicks you can't have on the internet is okay, but once it enters the real world it b... : quadeh
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              That's not even remotely what I think nor is it what I'm saying. I love attractive women. I don't love cl... : mittense
              • It seems to me that you assume that every hot chick is NOT a nerd nor a video game enthusiast. Moreover, ... : quadeh
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              I mean, images or presence of extremely attractive women are sort of a universal currency for men, and ha : quadeh
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                So aside from going to kind of awkward lengths to validate.. Something, you didn't really change the fact... : mittense
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                  I'm not trying to validate anything, I just think your outright rage against booth babes is funny. I mean... : quadeh
                  • (obviously, when I say 'you' there, I mean joe everygamer) : quadeh
      • most stereotypes are based on fact. : metalremains
      • For every self righteous person offended at the presence of booth babes, there are probably nine others w... : pigvomit
      • What the fuck, you are acting like hot women are only used at nerd conventions. They use hot women to sel... : OverloadUT
      • I agree with this rant : cdbeckman
      • Pretty sure you just perpetuated the stereotype there yourself. : SiW.
      • You are way overthinking this : Magus
    • Embarrassing like how you mentally consider booth babes one of the most significant things of a gaming ex... : mittense
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    Even more embarrassing are all the jackholes that try to get pics with them. Sweaty, smelly nerds with sw... : Fred Garvin
    • Haha a podcast I was listening to yesterday talked about how the girls always get stinky ass shoulders fr... : Evil Benius
  • iawtp : riptyde
  • I pretty much think scantily clad women should be everywhere : bozer
  • It depends if they are paid at a decent rate. If they are paid a few bucks to stand there nearly naked f... : semaphore
  • I'm way too important to look at girls in skimpy outfits. : Slowtreme
  • i swear to god you're all a bunch of faggots : [fry]
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    The only good thing about booth babes is watching the painfully socially-inept nerds who hover around the... : ColoradoCNC
    • Do you really need to validate the video game industry to someone? As I said above, this practice is com... : pigvomit
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  weren't booth babes banned at E3 like... years ago? Like totally banned for a year (or two) and then even... : pharoah mike
  • this year was supposd to be the year they are allowed back... its early lol : chilln
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    E3 became serious business for a couple years but now it's back to being clusterfuck central so anything ... : mikecyb
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      It's kind of sad that E3 was unsuccessful when it was more mature so now it has to go back to being an ov... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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        well it wasn't even a show the last two or whatever years, it was entirely press and like investors and t... : mikecyb
        • AKA BORING : Slowtreme
      • I don't think the problem was that it was more serious, and more that they did a horrible job of organizi... : ColoradoCNC
    • I was wondering if that would last. : action wombmate
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  Here's a link for E3 booth babes but in spanish, a friend of mine is over there taking pics http://alt104... : ErneX
  • I didn't notice any spanish. : kek
  • lol Ubisoft. And Daisy Fuentes forgot how to age. : Ajax
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    ATTN PHIL: http://alt1040.com/2009/06/las-chicas-del-e3/chichas-e3-03 : SiW.
    • Internal server errors are so fucking HOT!!! * F A P ' D * : RomSteady
    • fucking server ASPLODED : ErneX
    • Well shit. One company had their girls nicely dressed in plain white shirts and tight black skirts and b... : SiW.
    • AIE YI YI PAPI !! : Phil
• OVER?! Hah - it is only just beginning!! newb ;) : dedgecko

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  wtf did I just read. : orgcaptainnemo
  • If you actually read all of it, color me impressed. : Satyric0n
• The negro compiler does work but try and figure out what is for the tree or indian chineese. O.o : mwasher
• that is amazing : Mansmells
• what the hell : Yanks
• He uses strange words. : CRasterImage
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  This is awesome. : Link.
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    Is it awesomely genius? Or awesomely retarded? I can't figure it out. : CRasterImage
    • The latter. : Link.
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  It looks the writing of a skitsofrenick programmer that was then badly translated into english. I have no... : johnlocks
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    skitsofrenick? was that on purpose? schizophrenic : valael
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• "Once we are able to make use of a mineral Generator. People are going to be able to generate items from ... : DrWaffles
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  ekuriox is a programmer? that's it i quit this industry : Dave-A
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    *door slam* : Dave-A
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      *fading footsteps crunching on a gravel path* : Dave-A
      • i lolled. was reading his posts earlier : kch
      • hahahahah : Poor Yurik
• The time cube of programming? : zehh
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  fuck, i laugh harder, and my head hurts more, everytime i read this... just lol : rmjackson
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    I think my favorite part is the ANCIENT LATIN section. It's like a non sequitur on page that already make... : Satyric0n
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      "I do recall a series of comilers running at once i dont remeber the numbers at all.. but it was like {1... : rmjackson
      • I think I figured out what he's smoking... basically all you have to do is take that black stuff out o : Satyric0n
    • sir the ancient latin is fucking win in every way! : rmjackson
• It is my responsibility to report this information : DOOManiac
• programming and mathematics seem to attract many ... unique individuals. : slickdoody
• I love how he replies to his own stuff, saying how great it is. : famine101
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  I dont think this guy has any idea of how computers work : gyokuro
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    Apparently he's writing a compiler; I found this in another thread of his: Im working on a compiler. I : Satyric0n
    • do you really want to know what the matrix is? The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us, even now in... : gyokuro
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      I wonder if he speaks a different language and his stuff was translated by something like babblefish. W... : CRasterImage
      • He uses too many English figures of speech to be translated though. "Put that baby on a chip and you're i... : Satyric0n
• this is like when my brother-in-law (who prefers Excel for word processing) starts explaining to me how c... : industro
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  THESLIPPYSTREAM http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcgeneral/thread/f4e48af2-3dc7-4f0c-b49c-b... : sirkne
  • Haha. That's a totally involved troll. He's using people's time who really should be helping real progr... : SLUDGE^
  • THESLIPPYSTREAM is a conversion or binary pipeline for converting a program in binary to visual. Im tryi : zehh

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• They really should have had versus running on all campaigns before they released it but other than that I... : Haku-Jin
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  The gameplay clip with Faylor's excellent gamer skills on display convinced me. I'm now genuinely excited... : mittense
  • I agree. that was awesome the way he ran up to that smoker and got choked. very excited for L4D2! : hirez
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    ... Really? I just watched it and it looked pretty much the same. Still fun, but I'm not feeling the ... : sevogajre
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      Then either: a) wait till the black friday deals (or any other xmas deal) of 50% off b) wait 3 months t... : dedgecko
      • yes, that's exactly what i gonna do. i'll buy it for sure, but not at full price - and it's not because i... : fw_rams
• Well said. Some of those bitching about L4D seem to be really picky nerds. Shut up, pay for the game on t... : focusdaily
• so you're examining the difference between usable content and unusable content, or quality vs quantity if... : Luminair
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  Valve touted future additional free content for L4D, which most people assumed would be new campaigns and... : metalremains
  • We didn't even get a freaking SDK until recently. Between that, only having two campaigns for versus (arg... : Arcanum
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    I think this is a valid argument for being disappointed by L4D2. Someone posted an old quote from Gabe re... : jipey
    • I agree with supporting them with actual money when they make a game/content. The problem is that L4D2 w... : metalremains
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  there's always some way to shill for a stupid idea. regardless, a sequel to a MP game 1 year after the fi... : thebigbeefsandwich
  • agreed : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Valve, please wait at least 2 to 3 years to come out with a sequel! You heard it here first. : Poor Yurik
    • I say they have a new sequel each month! The gamers insist on having more sequels as quickly as possible... : AndyGoin
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    Unreal Tournament 2004. : LeeMon
    • If L4D is like UT2K3, the L4D2 better have six game modes, 40 maps, and vehicles. : Nuxes
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  just because you play something for a 100 hours doesn't make it a good value. How much would you pay fo... : Modulus
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    Hah, if we gauged value and pricing based on playtime alone, how much should a deck of cards cost? $500? : AndyGoin
    • lamest comparison ever. >.< Most games these do not supply you with 100 hours of fun, that is genuinel... : JoeBubber
  • Of course it means it's a good value, assuming you enjoyed those 100 hours. What are you going to gauge ... : DinK
  • Uh, what in the fuck? If I get 100 hours out of a game, that's about 4 times more than I expect for my m... : Poor Yurik
  • if they played 100 hours and don't enjoy it, what the hell? : TrptJim
• macs vs. pcs 360 vs. ps3 l4d vs. ut3 : cpt_gloval
• These are my thoughts as well. : Milleh
• I think it's more about hours of enjoyment then content. I've spent 50+ hours on L4D. Compared to just ... : Edges
• I agree with you on this. They have 3 campaigns and I play 1 of them over and over again. Its like clas... : handofthrawn
• I was thinking a while ago how I'd have no problem paying $10 for a new top quality campaign by Valve. T... : FirmButtstone
• Surprise, anger, reluctance, excitement, impatience. In that order. : nevlos
• l4d doesn't even have free hats yet : nem00
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  It's just the lack of diversity in the maps. Even on expert, it's the same fucking map over & over again... : jingletard
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    Yeah, we need some more old wooden ships from the Civil War era in L4D! : zerog83
    • zombie pirate captain! : ass-street
    • haha - a LeChuck n gang vs Guybrush n crew would be a pretty awesome TC. : dedgecko
  • How come there are never suburbs? I've lived in suburbs all my life, I wanna kill some suburban zombies! : cerealSAM2
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  it's much less of a value per dollar on the 360 . $69 for 4 maps is pretty slim : cptstern
  • 20 maps? : crummynz
• I'm super excited and can't wait to play it. I don't get all the complaining either. : deveus1
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  gameplay hours and content translate directly to money agrjhefsjkdlkalsagshdjbsaajh next up, games as ... : mikecyb
  • hey I didn't know this was the idle thumbs forum : tashtego
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  To me, the complaining is justified. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • Can't argue with those reasons :P : jipey
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    How is the weather in San DeVagina ? : CRasterImage
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      lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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        iawlol : r3dn3ck
        • ^^^ troof : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Thud : tomservo
• exactly. it reminds me of the days when games were games..before we went off into scripted i want to be a... : kemical
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  the problem is that L4D was only 'completed' with all the versus maps very recently, and they immediately... : ]pm[chem
  • and they have an SDK out now so people can mod it make more maps for it and those mods will also work wit... : sigpro
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    So you would be perfectly fine if they artificially delayed the sequel a year? Got it. : WhatIsThisFor
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      No, the team should have had the other versus maps done by Thanksgiving (it was a Halloween release, righ... : Merconium
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        it was released in november (11th or 17th, dont remember... a tuesday for sure), and some things like... ... : brainchild420
        • the SDK will still be the saving grace because it will offer some fresh areas and ideas that can only com... : dedgecko
• I was one of these people who felt bummed at a new version coming out and I'll have to pay full price etc : jbury
• Gamers are getting snotty, spoiled and de-sensitized. There is also a newer generation who never would fo... : jane911
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  Valve takes multiple years to develop a single six-hour episode of Half-Life 2. They then take more or... : Schnapple
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    I thought Valve helped Turtle Rock (by buying them up) polish L4D in 12-18 months. It was in development... : dedgecko
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      wiki search turns up: Development on Left 4 Dead started in mid-2005.[24] Valve aimed to create a horr : dedgecko
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        All of which rather supports the belief that L4D was shoveled out the door for quick cash while the real ... : Arcanum
        • Or perhaps split in two : Schnapple
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          where does the 2+ year dev cycle scream "shoveled"? : dahanese
          • More the fact that after the 2+ year dev cycle they released a game with a relative paucity of content, b : Arcanum
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          ... but you don't believe that, right? : jake2000
          • I'm unclear on why I shouldn't, given available evidence. : Arcanum
        • Those two games are completely different developmentally. An episode of HL2 is fine-tuned, singular ca... : das_runt
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  http://www.videogamer.com/news/valve_details_post_left_4_dead_launch_plans.html So we'll do the same t : Halen
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    Instead we get two versus campaigns and a new mode, both of which really should've been in the original r... : Arcanum
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      ...and the SDK which will be upgraded for L4D2, I would hope at launch. All the shit people have made ... : dedgecko
      • The SDK which also should've been available on release or shortly after, but instead was released six mon... : Arcanum
  • Yeah exactly why I bought it (twice). I had an expectation of continued support. I never would've paid $7... : SenorSpine
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  the content is FINE. it's the stigma of only playing 10 fucking minutes, tops, at a time - unless you cre... : Downforce
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    I have played L4D on a pub all of once, and it was versus mode where I spent half the match calling some ... : mikecyb
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      anyway the moral of the story is only play L4D with shackers because they're not usually terrible! excep... : mikecyb
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        You're not allowed to talk shit mister my in-game depth perception sucks as much as my real-life haircut. : Ajax
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          hey do you get royalties for being a playable character in L4D2? : mikecyb
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            Do you get royalties for all those That 70's Show reruns, Eric? : Ajax
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              why yes, yes I do. also for making out with Laura Prepon. I like women that scare me. : mikecyb
              • ahaha this post clears up EVERYTHING cybermichael! : Ajax
            • this is a quality epic burn : Downforce
  • Whenever someone ragequits I find their slot gets filled within seconds (it amazes me every time) : crummynz
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  With all the new content in L4D2, it would prolly have cost more in split up DLC packs, than L4D2 will co... : JoeBubber
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    The problem is not that L4D:2 will not be worth it, it's that L4D was not worth it. : melt_core
    • It's a matter of personal opinion (as stated for the umpteenth time now). I'll probably purchase it wi... : dedgecko
• I felt like L4D was lacking. I played it a few times and didn't feel the need to replay much more. It fe... : razlebol
• I think this is a little questionable on Valve's part, but in the grand scheme of things are people reall : action wombmate
• We'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll release more : melt_core
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  Valve have set a precedent and now (finally) broken the expectations. It's not that their games are bad,... : abrasion
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    I don't think it's even that. It's that there were explicit promises made about continuing free content, : Arcanum
    • That also. : abrasion
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      out of curiosity when did they promise new content? and I mean, we've gotten a new game mode and extra v... : mikecyb
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        http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54485 : GloriousCow
        • Wow, what a huge serving of big fat lies. Has anyone called them out on these statements? Especially on : deathofrats
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          didn't all that happen already? : mikecyb
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            We got one genuinely new scenario. No new weapons. No new bosses. : Arcanum
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              I'm reading the 1up article and none of this is a promise, it's just a plan, and it's not even outlined b... : mikecyb
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                when you publicly state your plans for additional content for a product before the product is released, a... : dirge23
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                  have they backed off though? has anyone asked if they are still going to support L4D or add any shit to : mikecyb
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                    oh come on mike, L4D2 is coming out in 5 months..do you really think they'll release new weapons, new cre... : deathofrats
                    • that's kinda the point. they have a conflict of interest between servicing the buyers of their previous g... : dirge23
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                      Shack: Will updates for the original Left 4 Dead continue? Chet Faliszek: Looking at Left 4 Dead 1, w... : mikecyb
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                        Well, looking at their reply to Shack's question (concerning updates for L4D), it seems as if the updates... : StolenNosferatu
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                          I'd imagine they will drop off, but who knows what their full plans are, there's clearly a lot of outcry ... : mikecyb
                          • also if when you make maps they work with either game... uh, that seems like it should tell you something : mikecyb
                    • correction: they said L4D2 is coming out in 5 months. this is valve! : crummynz
                  • i dunno, but it's not looking good : dirge23
            • It's more like 1 new map really. : abrasion
        • that article came out months before the actual game was released. gimme a break. : hirez
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      If you argument is entirely predicated on one statement from Gabe, what makes you think that L4D won't st... : WhatIsThisFor
      • a) Not "one statement from Gabe", as GloriousCow's link demonstrates. b) No explicit statement has been ... : Arcanum
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      We got new, free content. We got the two extra versus campaigns and we got survival mode + a new survival... : aeg1x
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        The versus campaigns that were just modified versions of the co-op campaigns? That's not exactly "new", ... : Arcanum
        • They're very different maps with different geometry, item placement, spawn points, etc. It didn't take t... : WhatIsThisFor
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    I don't even see it as that. Left4Dead, in it's initial form, doesn't approach the other games they've r... : Halen
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      I adored the game, it's the best co-op engine ever released, the potential for single player (co-op) expe... : abrasion
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        I played the shit out of the co-op, but at the end of the day, it always felt like there should be more c... : Halen
        • Agreed, I think we're in the minority now though - it's become a VS fest which I'm totally not interested... : abrasion
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          Don't people keep comparing the lack of content to TF2 which also shipped with a really small number of m... : derelict515
          • No idea, I don't play TF2. : Halen
• IAWTP. Excellent game, will buy again (lol). : sasoi
• I've had the game for about a month now and still love it as much as when I first got it. I do think L4D ... : 5150Joker
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  I think most of the people whining about lack of content are people who don't play versus for whatever re... : aeg1x
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    It just seems like it'd be so easy for valve to throw in a new weapon or two -- melee -- and a new campai... : thief
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      sure, but then its also easy to add in new special infected and hey why not a new character and what abou... : aeg1x
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        Oh, it's still a mod to me and not a new game. I feel strongly that valve could have and should have don... : thief
        • oh, take away strongly. I don't want that word nor my lack of reasons or explanation to get me drawn int... : thief
• Stop caring, it's what I do. and it works! : Magus
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  The only thing that bother's me about it is that the title is L4D2. This makes me think that the game is ... : Nighteyes
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    This is exactly how I feel. : SatansFist
    • l5d : boring gegtik
• I am upset they did not release the SDK sooner. : thief
• i tried to like L4D, but it ended up just feeling like a mod. anyone else feel similar? Seems like i'm... : broly1718
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  Valve is ripping us off and splintering the L4D community by doing this. How can anyone like this? : gyokuro
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    Wasn't most of the sales for L4D on the 360? if thats the case, its not splintering anything. : baron calamity
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      Of course it is. Some people will stay on the old one, and some people will happily shell out another $50... : weaselmeister
      • How did Gears 2 splinter the Gears 1 community? Same as L4D2, it doesn't. If you had Gears 1, owning Ge... : WhatIsThisFor
• Left 4 Dead has always felt like it was a half-assed title compared to their other ones. Four short campa... : Mmmmmoo
• l4d was prolly the most fun i've had gaming in years : boomstickah
• L4D was a brilliant experiment and now that they have the formula down, L4D2 will be amazing. That being... : IHATEDUST
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  I think what everyone is missing here is the amount of work that goes into producing these campaigns. All... : Rodeoclash
  • $29 expansion pack. (i bought L4D for like $22 on steam) : gyokuro
  • I don't know if an upgraded version of a game necessarily demands a new version. Like other people have s... : StolenNosferatu
  • I think people were expecting new campaigns one at a time released for free or as a low cost DLC. Valve ... : IHATEDUST
  • I want a crossbow with arrows that can be lit on fire by molotovs. Or arrows with explosive tips. : Mmmmmoo
  • Then make it a paid DLC goddammit! : melt_core

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  I hope footage is released which shows some more of those new robot dudes. Those looked cool! : SpaecKow
  • The new species? If that's what you're reffering to then I can confirm they're actually aquadic in nature : warcrow
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  Did they address everyone's concerns about the control? : pigvomit
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    I need you to be more specific. : warcrow
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      are they fixing it so I can more easily sort my inventory? : deject
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        they did this in the PC version, so probably : dirge23
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          I played the PC version and thought the inventory was pretty clunky. I'm hoping that it's more user frie... : ZTac
          • Don't take it for granted, the 360 version was ok for small inventory but it becomes a nightmare. : Sailor of Fortune
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          No, they really didn't. It was by far the worst part of the interface. Scrolling through 35 different s... : deject
          • It was an improvement over the abysmal X360 interface, but yeah, they could still improve it a lot. : dirge23
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        They wouldn't talk or show inventory, but it's probably safe to assume it's being completely reworked wel... : warcrow
        • Sounds good to me. : deject
• MOTHERFUCKING FOOTAGE!!! NOW!! : g0nk
• wut? details... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  hope to hear about it on the next Played, unless of course you signed a NDA : grabbie
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    No NDA, but they definitely had a decent sized spoiler at the end and haves us a heads up about it. If ... : warcrow
    • a bigger 'blow away' than anything in ME1? : Bamtan
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  Have they turned the game more in to a shooter than an RPG? Based off of the trailers & previews, it see... : jingletard
  • You know, from what I saw it was exactly the same in that regard but refined. : warcrow
• After the latest trailer and shack preview, I think I'm shutting myself to all news about this game until... : kungfusquirrel
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  I am hoping it's better than the first game. I really only finished it because I was too far in. They nee... : Fred Garvin
  • the inventory system was HORRENDOUS even though you could get used to it. i am more stoked about Mass Eff... : mr.sleepy
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    I was able to get 1 min 1-on-1 time with the producer and I asked him about side missions and the planets... : warcrow
    • Nice. : ZTac
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      It's not that hard really. Instead of having say 20 pre-fab worthless planets knock it down to a few doze... : avatar_58
      • 5 billion hours of gameplay!! : Fred Garvin
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        No I asking about the size of the universe and he said is was the same size ad ME1 but just richer and de... : warcrow
        • Damn iPod!! :( : warcrow
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        How does one "knock down" 20 planets to a few dozen unique ones? : kungfusquirrel
        • I'm not feeling well today, cut me some slack here. Pretend I said 50 :D : avatar_58
      • hrm... 20 vs 3*12 ... hrmmmm .. not that hard really as quality is much better than quantity : kgargs
      • Not only this, but apparently they decided to make each planet 'unique' in the sense that the side missio... : theangrywaffles
      • There is no reason not to now. The engine is there, the tools are in place. : Pettytheft
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      Which producer? : Fred Garvin
      • I heard the Dr.s talking about this yesterday on G4. They really wanted to address the fans concerns with... : pyide
    • Sounds good! : action wombmate
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    I still like all that stuff mostly because the dialogue was good. I mean you want to talk excruciatingly ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      I know a lot of people love it and to each his own, but I was not blown away. It had the right elements, ... : Fred Garvin
      • Perhaps ME2 is your game then. :) : warcrow
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    I really enjoyed Mass Effect 1 a lot but I think you're right, the story, graphics, art direction and mus... : abrasion
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      We agree on something :o the story and NPCs are pretty much the only reason I kept playing and when I got... : derelict515
      • Time heals all wounds - /fist bump. : abrasion
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  Any idea if they refined the Mako controls? I was hoping they would be more like Halo. : hoov1185
  • Yes. No details though. : warcrow
• G4 had a hands-on demo with it last night for a good 15 minutes, plus a good bit of commentary by the dev... : theangrywaffles
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  I'd kinda hate/envy you for already having played it but then I don't want to spoil the game for me befor... : razorblade79
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    He didn't play it, it was a hands-off demo. : action wombmate
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      oh I never heard that term before. the off should've given me a hint though. still, looks like they inclu... : razorblade79
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        The did, yes. : warcrow
        • *they : warcrow
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        I'm playing it tmrw, any Qs you want answered? : rudds
        • You get to play it rudds? :0 : warcrow
        • actually yes; will there be more classes? will they change the skill system, are there more skills per ch... : razorblade79
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  http://e3.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/50298/mass-effect-2/index/ : warcrow
  • I like what I hear, especially the part about the extra attention on the side planets. : Mmmmmoo
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    they promise a solid framerate ! :) i like the idea that you can take legs out. they should add a move fo... : thebigbeefsandwich
    • The graphics, and this includes texture work, graphic/texture fidelity, frame rate, shadow and lighting (... : warcrow
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  Where do you work? : WhatIsThisFor
  • Who is your daddy, and what does he do? : quadeh
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  are the side quests pretty much the same rthroughout like in the first game? : cptstern
  • I dont recall details on that, so it probably didnt come up. : warcrow
• I've only ever been truly jealous of you when you got Fallout 3 early. : cdbeckman

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  Target has them for $120-130. I would get one but seriously the heat here only lasts like 2 months. : orgcaptainnemo
  • to me, $130 for sleeping in cool temperatures, even for just two weeks per year, is worth it. those wind... : EvilDolemite
  • What kind? Good ones? For horizontal windows? : pun][sher
• just get like a $149 unit at a store. plenty of power for cooling up to 500 square feet probably. : EvilDolemite
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  i just put a fan in my window and that does me. it doesn't stay that hot at night : cpt_gloval
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    don't you hear cars and shit drive by? that bugs me at night : EvilDolemite
    • Fan noise + music drowns that ambient noise out pretty easily unless you're in a real downtown/city area ... : derelict515
    • and trains, and sea lions, and neighbors, and... i will sleep through armageddon. : cpt_gloval
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  What's the temp been lately? here it's been like 24-26 for the last few days. I feel fucking great in thi... : focusdaily
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    78-85. Haha, yeah, I'm weak. : pun][sher
    • lol : RikiTiki2
• Man it's like just over 80. Turn a fan on and take your shirt off and it's fine. It could be a lot worse.... : derelict515
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  love this weather, although it is a bit toasty at my house : FrayLo
  • cross breeze ftw : cpt_gloval
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  I just checked your forecast for the next 10 days. what the fuck? : mwasher
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    oh wait, i guess it would still kind of suck to not have an AC when it's low 80's. :\ : mwasher
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      we're weak but this kind of weather usually doesn't happen this time of year, we're looking at deep augus... : cpt_gloval
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        yea, a heat warning when the high is 85 is funny to me. :\ : mwasher
        • if it's 80 now it should be will over 85 by 4-5 pm. : cpt_gloval
      • yeah man my fucking lawn is toasting and I was realizing I never have to water until at least July. : malloc
• Drive down to Portland, OR and I'll sell you the one we bought less than a year ago. We're moving into a... : tangles
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  greenlake is faptastic : Iwannaacura
  • the milfs are out in force up in lake stevens : cpt_gloval
  • i need to go for a run around gl after work, haven't done that this year yet : FrayLo
  • there is much truth to this. I rolled up the bluewater with some crew. holy crap. : Downforce
  • i need to go. i wish it wasn't a whole 2 miles from my place. : orgcaptainnemo
  • The UW is pretty nice too right now. : digital_d
  • omg.... no kidding : radicus
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    and I live only a few blocks south of it so I get to watch all of them walk past my window on the way to ... : Waffles!
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      god we need to have a seattle meet. : orgcaptainnemo
      • mmm,it has been awhile : Waffles!
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  I might have to expedite my time table for a gin and tonic focused shackmeet since I'm running out of gi : Downforce
  • I have a new bottle at home that you'll have to fight my wife for. : digital_d
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  are you serious?! You pussy. You don't need A/C till it gets up to 90+ (°F). Get a fan for like 2... : dedgecko
  • My AC has been on for weeks. I live in NH. \m/ : FormerHPB
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    out of curiosity, at what temperature do you start wearing jacket/sweaters? do you use an umbrella in the... : mindmann
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      f everyone else, i use an umbrella when its raining more than a light drizzle. i also wear a jacket when... : FrayLo
      • ^^ missing his protective layer of blubber : cpt_gloval
      • well eff you too, FrayLo. : mindmann
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        So many people here wait at the bus with a jacket and no umbrella, then they sit down all drenched and th... : derelict515
        • yeah i don't know what's up with the whole "i'm too good for an umbrella" when it's raining : FrayLo
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        is it normal for people to own umbrellas? i've never owned one. if it's raining i just run from the door ... : [fry]
        • Some places it can rain so hard that running to the car gets you much more than a little wet. Also some p... : derelict515
      • that's because you're thin. : orgcaptainnemo
    • I've worn my Northface fleece year round here in Auburn, WA / Snoqualmie, WA, less I'm snowboarding. O... : dedgecko
  • this is actually pretty nice after getting a faceful of Othello heat wave last weekend. : cpt_gloval
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    this really depends on humidity. in houston 80 degrees can be downright miserable without air conditionin... : [fry]
    • ^ This. In Denver we can do just fine with open windows and ceiling fans until it hits at least 80. Bef... : riptyde
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    We had 28% humidity last night. I wouldn't say i'm a pussy. I just like sleeping in compfort if I can. I... : pun][sher
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      Really, man, you shouldn't need an AC in Seattle, even in this "heat wave." you'll bun up an extra hundre... : Juno
      • I guess I could. It's mainly for sleeping though. : pun][sher
      • exactly, better yet, any of the parks along lake washington. Marshe park in Kirkland, is pretty damn nic... : dedgecko
  • bear grylls of the urban world : askedrelic
  • I went last year without A/C all Summer in NY. I do live rather far out east on the island so its cooler... : ant_hillbilly
• i've had an lg artcool 1.5T for about 2 years now, zero issues so far. had some troubles initially but lg... : vikramwillrock
• i start running my A/C when it's like 65 degrees out. fuck it. it costs like $10/month to run it consta... : electroly
• Just get a fan, the temps drop to the 60s at night during a heat wave. And it's not like we have humidit... : Waffles!
• Seattle heat wave? AC? That sounds like overkill to me. But a good oscillating fan on a stand and you sh... : Lightzout
• Ahahahaha, 80 degrees does not a heat wave make. :) : thetangent
• This weather is absolutely gorgeous!! When it gets to be 115 on a daily basis, and its still 95 degrees a... : Madwacker

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  yeah that's pretty horrible. Who would eat uncooked lobster? : Modulus
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    same people who eat uncooked fish? like me? : FrayLo
    • Is it expensive? There's something really awesome about properly cooked and prepared lobster. But blowing... : ieGod
• Andrew Zimmern ate it on an episode of Bizarre Foods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ZQal4xFkU : angrytaxman
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  things I don't want to try for 500... : derelict515
  • yeah, i can eat sushi but this is kind of over the top : FrayLo
• yikes.. i'm no vegetarian but i don't want to eat anything that still looks like the way it did when it w... : sikander
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  omf... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVAUG_nWpa0&feature=related : sikander
  • Fuck you. lol : Utopia
• Helvetica should avoid looking through the related videos. : cerealSAM2
• I'd try it : hamachi
• Don't think I could do it, no. Other's are welcome to, just... not around me please... : kallanta
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  Back on the farm in Colorado where I grew up, we used to hunt rabbits down by letting the dog chase and c... : dognose
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    dognose that's just ridiculous, rabbits don't have a gizzard : action roommate
    • Called BS one line in because of that. I usually don't call BS on a dognose post until the end. :( : drhazard
    • Innards? : doublechan
  • I wish carrots would scream when you bit into them. : Modulus
  • wtf @ nellie. : GrimmyD
  • my dear friend i just carefully put a spider outside but your post has inspired me to gut a moose back so... : Dave-A
  • dognose, I have a rabbit. please don't eat his innards :x : jessipoo
  • haha, perfect reply my vegan friend cheers : the city
  • i was a troubled child; i tortured asparagus in the garage : GloriousCow
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    dognose, did this really happen? : hirez
    • lol : TaintedSyringe
  • genius. : re-verse
  • no wonder you love noodles so much now- You can finally sleep at night. : Klebold
  • oh dognose! : electroly
  • supposedly this is the reasoning behind the kosher laws about butchering. before that, people would keep ... : dirge23
  • eww :( : AMikaboshi
  • LOL oh my god : TastyWheat
  • hahahahah : Serpico74
  • Bring me a live cow over to the table. I'll carve off what I want and ride the rest home! -Dennis Leary : reign27
  • I think your mourning period has enhanced your creative output. A+++++ [bows down and worships el jefe... : PlanetPerfecto
  • You will let me know when those lambs stop screaming, won't you? : c0bra
  • hey man, that's like alive, man : bRAINsick
  • :( : nevicata
  • I just...I mean... what....WHO'S head did this story come out of? : IHATEDUST
  • i cannot appreciate your sense of humor. Redneck. : doublechan
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    Ahahahaha, jesus dude, you had me going for a bit there! : thetangent
    • Also: http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq35/stoner_pixie/videos/?action=view¤t=familyguysheepkill... : thetangent
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  i've been a fisherman all my life so cutting up sea creatures that are still alive lost its weirdness for... : [fry]
  • I'm the same way, but I still don't want the front half thrown on my plate just so I can watch it move. ... : valael
• I like sashimi but that just doesn't seem very appetizing. Though I would imagine tuna sashimi wouldn't ... : boarder2
• That was...rather disturbing. He's still wriggling while he gets stuffed with garnish :( : Ovate
• i wonder if the "brains" are any good raw? the tail cutting seems pretty sloppy and unappetizing, but i'm... : supersonic potato
• That's gross. I like tuna sashimi, but the idea killing the animal right there (even if it is basically ... : LemonJoose
• Hmm never tried it, wouldn't mind to tho : Magus
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  Where is this? Nishino? : Iwannaacura
  • no idea, a friend posted a similar video on facebook of them trying lobster sashimi so i looked for one o... : FrayLo
  • The info says New Jersey. : IHATEDUST
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  i tried that. freaked the fuck out of me because the lobster was staring accusingly at me. The claws ... : Klebold
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    on another note, don't try sea cucumber. its the closest approximation to eating a grue as you will ever ... : Klebold
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      its pretty good fried up though! : radicus
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        was yours orange? mine was translucent orange. I only scored a side before the weight of beast divided it... : Klebold
        • nah, more purply before getting cut up into calamari style rings : radicus
  • man that's fucked up =[ i don't care how you perceive crustacean consciousness. wtf. yeck. : the city
• I would eat it in a heartbeat, same as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_shrimp which was absolutely... : snowwolf
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  I think I'm broken. I'm not a huge fan of lobster or shrimp. Crab is alright, but it's still on my ... : walker270
  • Then I am broken too, because I would rather have a steak than lobster. It seems to me if you have to dip... : gibolas1234
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  I tried it at Katsura in Toronto. It was delicious but disturbing because the lobster head didn't make it... : quanta88
  • At least you know it's fresh! : doublechan
• NEWS FLASH: Unless you are a vegetarian, your food was once a live animal and had to be killed in order f... : gibolas1234
• Dont show this to helvetica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuXKGuxB9Zc&feature=related : Delusional
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  I'll call your lobster and raise you a fugu! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBc8e7fkc6E&eurl=http%3A%2... : doublechan
  • That was a very cool video... always heard a lot about it but never seen it. : miasma(&)
  • That is so PRO knife work, wow. 7 years to learn to do that. Cool. : IHATEDUST
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    The guy talking in English doesn't know what he's talking about. I've eaten blowfish liver. : gibolas1234
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      I pulled this off the Wikipedia: "Toxicity Fugu contains lethal amounts of the poison tetrodotoxin ... : doublechan
      • But this is the best part: "Since 1958, only specially licensed chefs can prepare and sell fugu to the... : doublechan

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  There have been quite a few stem cell breakthroughs over the last few months. Wonder why? : MagicWishMonkey
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    Because Stem Cell research has been going on steadily for quite a while. Also this research used adult s... : Crimsonbeak
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      According to several shackers who actually work in the biomed industry (unlike you) you're wrong as hell. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Then why... did you ask? : rotten element
        • It was a rhetorical question. I hope your question is not rhetorical. : freshyk
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        And other people who are in the biomed industry and specifically work with stem-cells disagree with you. ... : boofy
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          This is not a matter of opinion. Stem cell research in the United States was severely hampered by Bush. ... : Ovate
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            No, actually this is a matter of opinion (and in fact, as we can't replay history, will always be a matte... : boofy
            • I guess there are two different things we're talking about here. The first is "stem cell research" bro... : Ovate
  • Obama. : DOOManiac
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    I didn't know Obama has been in office for 18 months? but the fact that the three test patients have b : cltcprd
    • also, nevermind didn't realize it was from Australia (which makes MagicWishMonkey also wrong). : cltcprd
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    this is Australian research : aeg1x
    • Is there no end to the wonders that Obama brings to the world!! : trove
  • Coincidence? : pigvomit
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  holy crap. O_O : g0nk
  • More like O_O : Godhatesfatpeople
• wow : derelict515
• holy shit : timaste
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  science is so fucking awesome. : the city
  • Fuck you!!!!!! : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Science makes baby Jesus cry, it should be banned. : MagicWishMonkey
    • all those lumps of mushy cells ARE CONSCIOUS DAMN YOU, THEY HAVE SOULLLLSSSS : the city
• Science is awesome : Godhatesfatpeople
• Fucking amazing! : Durandal07
• Incredible. : NastyJack
• That is really awesome. : Magus
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  This story should be titled "Fuck You, George Bush!" : treefingers1
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    George was only acting in gods will. : abrasion
    • Those fetuses belong in the trash, using them for stuff is like taking a big steamy shit on top of 10 bib... : MagicWishMonkey
  • The stem cells were adult stem cells...but it should be titled that anyway : Ovate
• science > god : NexusOne
• I want stem cells for breakfast, I especially want them all over my penis, really big stem cells. : abrasion
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  damn! woo, that gets me very excited... but i dunno if its applicable to my condition or not : GloriousCow
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    The cure for midget-penis syndrome is right around the corner, no worries. : MagicWishMonkey
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      You have no idea what its like having a fifty pound, 4' long penis : GloriousCow
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        it's almost like having a little brother : Utopia
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          every night you strangle your brother until he vomits? : GloriousCow
          • Whatever gets you off, sicko. : Moonbase Commander
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  Sweet, I can go blind now! : WhatIsThisFor
  • Odds are you've been trying real hard. FAP FAP FAP. : crimrOw
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  I love how scientists are always shown pipetting stuff. : nevicata
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    It's like when they talk about the economy and they show the same stock footage of money being printed in... : LemonJoose
    • They'll often go "interview" the scientist in question, then use very little of the interview itself and ... : nevicata
• I could probably use those. : ADSliv
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  The research team isn't getting over excited, still remaining unsure as to whether the correction will re : boarder2
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    it would suck if it gave you eye cancer :( : GloriousCow
    • True. : boarder2
    • you would change your eye every 2 years, no biggie. : Enigme
  • i'd look at boobs all the time : kingfish
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  Please be true. I want good vision again! : kallanta
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    what happened to your vision : smax
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      Went to shit when I was 18. Had 20/20 up till then, now I'm glasses'd. : kallanta
      • What about lasers? : famine101
      • um, they have lasik to correct this. : edgewise
• All these replies and not one masturbation corollary? : mafu5150
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  I'm waiting for them to learn how to repair Retinas since I have a disease which is slowly eating away th... : cygnus
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    Well, as long as your optic nerve is intact, you could always go the implant, occipital jack and cameras ... : Conan
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      Mmm, bionic eyes. I can't wait for high-res, full-color sci-fi military type ones with built-in display ... : Arcanum
      • And then your vision gets hacked and spammed with popups whenever you connect to the internet :P : miasma(&)
• Holy shit. This better go mainstream soon. I want 20/20 vision! : Link.
• Are you guys fucking with me because that link goes nowhere for me. It's just a blank white page. : OverloadUT
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  WHY AREN'T WE FUNDING THIS? : Fred Garvin
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    WE ARE : Perturbation
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxy0bYkCTtE : Fred Garvin
  • because we know it's dark secret. The Australians are using Aboriginals as unwilling test subjects!!!! : edgewise
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  This reminds me that my father in law is convinced that legalizing stem cells will somehow create abortio... : mizterd99
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    Reduces the number of people in poverty, creates jobs, stimulates the economy...where's the problem? : Arcanum
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      Haha, you ever try bringing logic into this conversation with a pro-life republican? : mizterd99
      • No, never had the opportunity. I did point out in a developmental psych class that a fetus strongly rese... : Arcanum
  • Next time ask him what about those that sell babies to sick fucks for cold hard cash. : dissembler
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    There will be fields of hookers and with plenty of farmer Johns to fertilize them... : edgewise
    • There are fields, endless fields, where humans are no longer born. They are grown. : Arcanum
• Next up: Male pattern baldness! : SockMonkeh

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  I just discovered Grizzly Bear and have been listening to Veckatimest, it's awesome. : wykd
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    I second this. Saw em live last Thursday and it was awesome! : Yanks
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      You fucker :( Where are they touring? : wykd
      • Blah, nowhere near Missouri. : wykd
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  Made a mix that I've been listening to a lot. 1. MGMT - Time to Pretend 2. Lupe Fiasco - Superstar 3... : ejectorpod
  • Thank you for reminding me that I need to re-rip my Jimmy Eat World! : Modica Sol Solis
• Above & Beyond's podcasts. Catching up and #268 has Orbital's Halycon on it. Brings back good memories. : Moonbase Commander
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  Outkast; CThru : dognose
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    dognose is black now!!!!! like me!! : Mr.SEX
    • CThru is my friend's brother so I been playing it a lot, Outkast is just plain good : dognose
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  I'd beg to differ, for me it's Castaways and Cutouts > Picaresque > The Hazards of Love > The Crane Wife : quadeh
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    That Iron & Wine is a b-side's rarities thing. Some of it is probably forgettable. However, since it wa... : hatelull
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      Yah, the Trapeze Swinger is great. I love that song. : plunkymeadows
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        Listening to it now, and these two dudes are correct about this song. : quadeh
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          Boy with a Coin is also an awesome song. : plunkymeadows
          • "Resurrection Fern" is probably my favorite off that album, followed closely by "White Tooth Man." : hatelull
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    I love that about the album. Concept albums have always been my favorite things to listen to, since I rar... : Modica Sol Solis
    • On the Bus Mall is one of my favorites too :). California One will forever be my favorite, though. : quadeh
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    I'm not too enthralled with listening to the recording of the album, however I saw them last Sunday and t... : owly
    • I've seen him a couple times, and I'm pretty sure he regularly gets ripped or wasted before he preforms. : quadeh
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  Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings : Orange Pylon
  • I'm pretty impressed with it so far! \m/ : Vantage
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  http://www.last.fm/user/hatelull The new Iron & Wine compilation is oh so very nice. Other than that, : hatelull
  • Thanks again for that man. Good stuff on that disc(s)! :D : quadeh
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    Dark Night of the Soul is never coming out commercially though is it? I only listened to it on the site ... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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      Probably not. The wikipedia has some interesting information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_M... : hatelull
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        Tracks 7 and 13, the wikipedia page actually lists the special guests on each track. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
        • Oh wow. : hatelull
  • Oh man, my David Lynch fanboyism just got the better of me. I just ordered the book and blank cdr for th... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
• Mostly Stars of the Lid. Not such a fan of the first three albums anymore, but after that, it's gold. : Lone Swordsman
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  I'm going to Bonnaroo in 9 days. : Cihte
  • Lucky. Have some extra fun and e-mail it to me. : quadeh
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  I've been listening to the last three albums I've bought, which were... Bauhaus - Mask Public Image Ltd... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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    Those are all very exceptional records sir! Had you never heard any of them before? : hatelull
    • I've heard Loveless before and have been a fan of Bauhaus and Public Image but never listened to anything... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  I've been on an ambient music kick the last few weeks. Robert Rich has some real atmospheric, moody shit... : jahulio2
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    Have any recommendations? It looks like he has downloadable albums on the Zune marketplace. : wykd
    • Somnium is pretty good. : jahulio2
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  I didn't enjoy either the new Green Day album and so far the new Eels album has been disappointing as wel... : baron calamity
  • There's a lot of women in Mesopotamia. : hatelull
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    So what does he say in Don't Bring Me Down? Is it Prust or Bruce? : plunkymeadows
    • I sing it as "gross" : baron calamity
    • I usually go with Bruce, but really, who the fuck knows? : quadeh
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  listening to lots of Sparklehorse lately. That and Crooked Fingers : plunkymeadows
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    What's a good Sparklehorse record to check out if I've never heard them? That whole Dark Night of the S : hatelull
    • Wow, never knew something like that was coming out. Cool. I only have one album and frickin love it. ... : plunkymeadows
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  DMB - Big Whiskey and the Gru Grux King : pturvz
  • Much better than I expected! : Yanks
• Death Cube K http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_GSS2UT-xI : Rag and Bone Man
• It's a great album. I've been listening to it like crazy. Annan Water and Rake's song are my favs. : happynoodle
• Butch Walker - Sycamore Meadows : Degenerate
• I am fucking obsessed with 311 - Uplifter. Totally stoked about the concert at Nissan Pavilion later ... : ateam311
• The Sounds : chiisu81
• Our Book & The Authors. The new album makes me think Coldplay + Radiohead. Very awesome. http://www.... : Matt Burris
• Verbal Deception - Aurum Aetus Piraticus It's a strange album from a metal band I've never heard of. S... : PointlesS76