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  latin women > * : mrvandelay
  • Yes, I agree with this post 110%. : tcxsnoop
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    here lemme fix that : latin women*' S CRAZINESS }r > * : proclone1
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      bah fuck that I never fuck up tags : proclone1
      • haha, it looks better that way : quadeh
  • their background and heritage help guide their decision-making! : Dave-A
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    By the time they're all 40 they'll be edging 180 lbs, have mustaches, want 6+ kids, and be crazier than h : action wombmate
    • when mexican girls hit 20, they put on 20 lbs/. : mojo the helpr monke
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    I cant get into latin/black girls... my loss, I guess. I just see them as ... lesser people? is that raci... : MagicGenie
    • lol : freshyk
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      Yes that would seem a tad racist. You could have stopped at I don't find latin girls attractive. : DM7
      • i don't think that is a tad racist. it's like AIDS. you either have it or you don't. and he's full blo... : dopeman
    • wtf : sanchez
    • nice : iamgoat
    • See, okay, let me explain something to you MagicGenie There are only two words in your post that make it ... : Bean
    • ur doin it rong : Downforce
    • It's only racist if it isn't sexist. : Dynotaku
    • LOLOLOL : proclone1
    • "I just see them as ... lesser people?" lol : Godhatesfatpeople
    • yeah, that's racist. : dopeman
    • lesser, like... height-wise? : c0bra
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      It is only racist if you have a solution in place. Which I happen to have! : haiku
      • D'oh, see you all in a week. : MagicGenie
      • a final solution? : Turd Ferguson
      • ban hammer? : hamachi
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      To Clarify (and i doubt this will make it any better, but im a sucker for punishment) when I said "lesser... : MagicGenie
      • haha this reply didn't help at all. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • sorry chief you can't ride the fence after that and backpedal. : Downforce
      • OH JESUS STOP! YOU'RE JUST MAKING IT WORSE!!! "but rather mixing my DNA with that persons DNA wouldn' : Bean
      • oh, so eugenics : c0bra
      • so you're all for racial purity? : cygnus
      • oh well that clears it up quite nicely thank you : fishbone
      • hahaha. wtf. this is supposed to make things clear that you aren't racist? : sicko
      • haha this is like The Producers : proclone1
      • Just stop, that's worse than your last post. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      • lol, your one of my favorite new posteres : mojo the helpr monke
      • hahahaha this is absurd. Just stop, stop now. It's almost worse that you're not referring to social value... : Merlin13x
      • doublelol : deviantpaul
      • You were born and raised up in the youtube comments, come on admit it. :) : DM7
      • black/latin women on the shack? u do realize this is a gay msg board right? : fathertime
      • http://www.shackpics.com/files/thatsracist_mhzkjn68egaj5fyefsln.gif : FrayLo
      • I gotta give you credit, at least you're not using a gardening trowel to dig yourself in deeper, you just... : yosemiteclimber
      • Now please tell us what you think about gypsies and Jews. : Bean
      • This thread is going places. : thetangent
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        "but rather mixing my DNA with that persons DNA wouldn't be beneficial from my standpoint." Bullshit b... : Orange Pylon
        • "Perception can be changed with reason." Clearly not his strong suit. Though we can hope. : Merlin13x
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        you're not racist, they're just genetically inferior... gotcha. : GloriousCow
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          He has clearly never fucked a latina! : Bean
          • kinda hope he never does : das_runt
        • GENETICALLY DIFFERENT : gmd
      • You don't own any brick ovens, do you? : boarder2
      • wow, judging a persons DNA by the color of their skin. if that's not racist, then i don't know what is! : dopeman
      • wow. just wow. : boofy
      • bahahfuckinghahahaha : Bamtan
      • lmao you're my new hero : ateam311
      • Well at least you don't call anyone the N word. : freshyk
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        I don't understand why you people are attacking him, here let me show you some phrenological measurements... : SpaecKow
        • Hahaha, I just checked she's not even dark. : SpaecKow
      • I've always speculated in my own mind that mixing DNA from people with significantly different makeups wa... : owly
      • hahaha this post would've been better if you said the N word instead : wvuong
      • Please post another response further clarifying your position; it's not completely clear to me. : esad
      • jesus fucking christ man, stop now : moshman
      • Thank you shack lol for making this reading possible. : spazzium
      • There's nothing better than mixing DNA with chicks from other races and cultures. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • hahaha : lightly inclined
    • trollllllll post : das_runt
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      to be honest the vast majority of people (i'd gues 95+%?) date within their own race so you're really not... : [fry]
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        Yeah, but (hopefully) most of them don't do it because they're scared of mixing their 'better' DNA with s... : Merlin13x
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          his reasoning is odd but the end result is the same as most of the rest of us ya know : [fry]
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            You must have missed the "lesser people" comment? Buy your right, we are all closet racists here. I even ... : DM7
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              buy = but :( : DM7
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                your = you're? ;) : thetangent
                • f = u :~( : DM7
          • I'm trying to figure out his reasoning. I think, to narrow it down, we need to do the boner test. This... : Bamtan
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      HEY MADGRAD, WORD ON THE STREET IS THEY SMELL FUNNY TOO! : abrasion
      • rip madgrad : gmd
    • Someone call Mace in to explain his error. : TigerRei
• oh my goodness : virus
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  Is anyone else irked that it's labeled "capoeira", but it isn't capoeira? They should label it "Sexy Braz... : Bold
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    it actually is capoiera, it's the samba da roda that happens at the end of each game cycle.... this is by... : akirabob
    • ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : Bean
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    yeah that totally irked me. in fact i'm still irked. : fishbone
    • i'm still irking right now oh god wow - wait am i using it wrong? : xsoulbrothax
  • I kept hoping she would do a handstand and kick some guy's face off. : davantalus
• how do girls do that? hypnotic : jcupitt
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  IMAGINE HER WRIGGLIN AROUND ON YOUR WILLY : niceguynick
  • OK : NastyJack
  • She would break it. : CRasterImage
  • done and done : sanchez
  • I think i can do that. : ColoradoCNC
• She is getting pushed by another girl @ 01:36 : humbleone
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  Why are Brazilian Women so Hot and Stocky at the same time, I like it! : cjcharv
  • Go to Marietta GA, there's like this small Brazilian community there, it's crazy, but good for cheap Braz... : vov1n
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  I think I just became a religious man. : Bean
  • Does your religion involve tugging one out to videos on the internet? In that case I think I'm a charter ... : Dynotaku
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  I need this in 1080p. : Dynotaku
  • Agreed. : eseiat
• i bet she's a dead fish in bed : cygnus
• if she did that in US, she'd be arrested for molesting those boys' fragile little minds : deviantpaul
• That's impressive! : ColoradoCNC

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• The lord is CarterInk. : trove
• man now i understand why people have 8-10 barracks. : tomatoactivator
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  Do you have a recent scout report on him? : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I ran a scout on him, but I didn't get any troop info back. : trove
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  Important naabster has created an awesome webapp ( http://evony.naabster.com ) that renders all of the d : Ride-My-Rocket
  • was just about to post how awesome this webapp is, and how we need to throw a shoutout to naabster. : tomatoactivator
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    down - i need to upgrade the database. it will be back in a bit : naabster
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      So, I've been thinking about this. Is friend/foe per city or per lord or per alliance? Which makes the ... : Agrona
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        i was thinking about this also. it is a bit stupid as position,lord or alliance can change. so i made it... : naabster
        • here's another thought - what if I add an entry for a location where another one exists - does it overwri... : Agrona
    • up - new: history( nothing gets "really" deleted. eat that spy!) : naabster
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    wow, that's cool! Is there a way to generate a map view? Basically, do a query like: select * from t... : TroZ
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      This could be pretty cool! It'd be nice if it scrolls faster than the game, too :o : Agrona
      • It would not only be cool. I think it would be required. Data is much easier to take in visually. : CRasterImage
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    I still think you should call it IBORY. : CRasterImage
    • Get it? "Evony & Ibory"? *sound of crickets chirping* : CRasterImage
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  I have been annihilating his other 4 cities, so he is hitting shackers near that one (which is way far fr... : ]pm[chem
  • I forced him to abandon one he started 2 blocks from my city. : edgewise
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  Should 1100 ballista be able to take this out with zero losses? I'm still not 100% sure how defenses bes... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Sure looks like they would. Be wary, though, if that's not an idle player - they may have troops from so... : Agrona
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  Market manipulation research update: Last night I did a few tests, with the help of Buzzbat and others, ... : riptyde
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    I've been able to manipulate the lumber market a bit by buying up the cheapest offer available, in the ex... : Ride-My-Rocket
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      Hahaha, awesome. Just to let you guys know, lumber and iron prices are up near 1.00 on servers 1 and 2... : Agrona
      • Lumber was like 0.32 on Server 5 just now. Highest I have seen it. : riptyde
  • I remember with Ikarium I could manipulate the price of commodities to a certain extent by stockpiling hu... : MagicWishMonkey
• Tip on resource capacity: Although your pop-ups show a limit on resource capacity based on the levels of... : riptyde
• StarRage, the gentleman who made me pick up the soap, has built a new city at (621, 374) with the possibl... : buzzbat
• Oh ffs, lagged again. I'm done with this shit. just one more queue to fill : d fluke
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  I'm pretty much done, as I don't have time to keep up with it anymore, if anyone is interested I have cou... : stonedonkey
  • Yeah I gave up after I went to visit my girlfriend yesterday morning at 8am and three hours later found m... : Evil Benius
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  Empire are onto Shaqfly, Jplayer wiped my main today. : even4
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    jplayer is horde isn't he : buzzbat
    • that's j-man77, iirc : riptyde
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  Does this game take up a ton of time? : imcompa
  • umm, it can, yes. You can also play it more casually, especially if you just stick to one city. : Agrona
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  I'm starting to get attacked by Horde. Apparently my towers/intelligence is still too retarded to see exa... : lyme
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    He didn't get so much this time: battle5.evony.com/default.html?logfile/69/a4/b5/a8/69a4b5a8aaf00f0fb710... : lyme
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      Archers towers are good, he just had an overwhelming amount of archers. And I am going to assume his arc... : riptyde
      • Yea, probably. My archery is only level 4. I'm having trouble keeping enough gold for all my research so ... : lyme
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  I am qutting. Anyone want my account? I have 120k prestige, four cities and a somewhat decent army. There : OverloadUT
  • Don't you do this to me you fuck! Don't you get me hooked on this goddamn game and then bail on me! : e3_Jeb
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    That's a definite problem with this game. You can't just log in, spend 15 minutes queuing up what you wa... : riptyde
    • ^^^ This. : Ride-My-Rocket
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      The twisted thing is that it's not really a problem, it's by design.. They want us to have a tab with the... : e3_Jeb
      • Not sure why, they don't seem to have ads. Yet. : trove
      • I think they only intentional designs in this game are unit balance and the shop. The no-queue is there ... : Agrona
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      it's disappointing (as is large parts of the endgame), but I understand. my one city challenge helps all... : ]pm[chem
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        you only have 1 city? : edgewise
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          yeah, always been that way : ]pm[chem
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            I have 2, but the second one is little more than a Market and an Academy so I can research 2 things at on... : riptyde
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              Why wouldn't an enemy attack such a city? : CRasterImage
              • It probably has little to no resources, making it an unattractive plunder target, and if it really only h... : OverloadUT
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                its probably heavily guarded, and you cannot conquer someones last city. : tomatoactivator
                • oh shit.. nm : tomatoactivator
  • i'm getting close to that point as well, not there yet, but close : buzzbat
  • nooo don't go! we need to you! : edgewise
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    playing any MMO or diablo on b.net would torment you. : spectr3
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      I play WoW and no, they are completely different things. In WoW if I don't log in for a week, nothing hap... : OverloadUT
      • Exactly. I felt bad enough taking a few hours away to spend time doing something else, but when I came ba... : Evil Benius
  • I think I'm going to bow out as well. Feel free to remove Gimpy from the Shaqnews group. It's just too ... : Ecks
  • hey, overload, I was just about to get started on evony when I saw your post. you still looking to give y... : cherokee300
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  no they're horrible : Cihte
  • da hell... this was supposed to be about the Airborn Toxic Event in the Gh5 thread. That's odd. : Cihte
• When I come out of the closet noob protection in a few days, what would be a good goal for me by that poi... : CRasterImage
• bump : CRasterImage

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  EAST: Be ready tomorrow! I'm hoping for at least four encounters. I'm planning my part out tonight. : zebosausamite
  • Tomorrow is going to be a 1930 night for me; my wife has plans also, and it's her turn to take precedence... : Wadmaasi
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    Can we not go to midnight? 11pm is late enough for me. : amrbean
    • Agreed. I'd like to spend some time with the wife before bedtime, and I need to get to bed earlier than ... : Ride-My-Rocket
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    No SockMonkeh, are all others still in? Erik and RMR can you make it? I think we go if four are present... : zebosausamite
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      Could we bump it to the next date? I can still do it tomorrow, but things are crazy at work... I've been... : Ride-My-Rocket
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        Also, here's the calendar of dates we voted on: http://www.doodle.com/kut8xkiea24hxpra : Ride-My-Rocket
        • The next day is a week out. *sob* : Wadmaasi
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        According to our last Doodle* the backup dates would be next week, Wednesday, June 3rd. Any objectio : zebosausamite
        • None here. : amrbean
        • I think that works for me too. : ErikTehRed
        • I hate all of you not really maybe a little but I can probably survive until next week. Probably. A... : Wadmaasi
        • I think I should be able to do that if I get MapTools and Vent on my laptop. I might be a little bit late... : SockMonkeh
    • I'm still good to go I believe. : ErikTehRed
  • I'm so pissed off that I can't make it. : SockMonkeh
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  LFR: Important announcement below... : amrbean
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    Quit cocking this shit up you motherfucker! : Wadmaasi
    • You totally fucked it all up. I am so going to kill off your character. : amrbean
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    I am running a LFR module for shackers on Monday, June 1st at 7pm EST via Maptools and Vent. AGLA1-1... : amrbean
    • Harkaan is a Bravura Warlord asshat. : Wadmaasi
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      Woah, wtf. Awesome! : zebosausamite
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        Ok! We got two signed up! : amrbean
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          Make sure you note which version of MapTool you'll be using. EAST is at least 1 build behind, for exampl... : Wadmaasi
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            Right. We'll be using Maptools v. 1.3.b55. But since I don't have your RPGA number, I am not sure you... : amrbean
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              Sweet, the fighter you mentioned above wasn't you screwing up my character? Awesome! : Wadmaasi
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                Actually, it was. Sorry friend. Who can keep track of what you are doing over there? : amrbean
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                  Asshat. So who's the 2nd? Stand up and be counted! : Wadmaasi
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                    Δ O <(I may be playing a mage!!) -( )- / \ : zebosausamite
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                      (or a Rogue, or a Paladin) : zebosausamite
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                        I could probably enjoy playing a Paladin, but for whatever reason I'm always drawn to the brute-force mel... : Wadmaasi
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                          Here's the Paladin I'd run next time a defender role is needed. http://80bower.net/files/tork.mundrun.... : zebosausamite
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                            (that damage is if marked, which they usually will be) : zebosausamite
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                              Where are you picking up the extra +2 AC from? I also prefer scale; plate is good in theory, but all the... : Wadmaasi
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                                Ha ha, nice domain name. : Wadmaasi
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                                  Heh. A good friend called me that in an e-mail years and years ago. It stuck. : zebosausamite
                                  • I like it, it's awesome! : Wadmaasi
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                                Heavy Shield grants the +2 AC. : zebosausamite
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                                  Shields! I always forget about those. My playstyle would rather have the potential +2 damage than the c... : Wadmaasi
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                                    Hence the Dwarven Weapon Training! : zebosausamite
                                    • But I loves me some dragonbreath and the +1 to-hit from swords. That's a very well-balanced character,... : Wadmaasi
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      how do I sign up for RPGA? : Crimsonbeak
      • http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=rpga/membership/welcome : zebosausamite
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        "When you attend any RPGA-sanctioned event, the organizers will have a membership application and a membe... : amrbean
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          I wonder if I can run down to my local comic shop that does these and see if they have any extra cards. : Crimsonbeak
          • Probably. They're the sort of thing that WotC wants places to have plenty of on-hand. God damn it, I'... : Wadmaasi
          • If this works, that's all you would need. The form just gets send back to WotC via regular mail and the ... : amrbean
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      What's an "official LFR character" ? : Goncyn
      • This should have the info you need. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lfrx/welcome : zebosausamite
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      Damnit I would totally get in on this if you weren't doing the session on my 1 year wedding anniversary :... : OverloadUT
      • Priorities: get yours in line! : zebosausamite
      • Slowly convince your husbandwife that May has 32 days and then celebrate your anniversary on Tuesday. : amrbean
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      Only 2 spots left!!! : amrbean
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        Awesome, that means we have four which, at the very least, is a legal table. : Wadmaasi
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          (defender or controller here!) : zebosausamite
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            Soooo I rolled a Half-elf Warlock (Fey Pact). What do you guys think? : Delaric
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              I've never played with a Fey Pact, they seem pretty mobile due to their boon. : zebosausamite
              • That's what I'm thinking. If I get stuck in combat I'm gonna get rocked, so mobility is nice. : Delaric
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    ATTENTION INTERESTED SHACKERS WHO ARE NOT RPGA MEMBERS. I may have access to a resource that will allo : Wadmaasi
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      This would be super if this works out. Do you have extra application forms? I don't know why they don... : amrbean
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        Doug has already offered to bring forms on Saturday and leave them with me. So yes. If the wankers abov... : Wadmaasi
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          Yea, this is great then. I plan on running these regularly. Monthly, maybe event bi-weekly. So don't b : amrbean
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            I would sign up but I already have so much D&D going on, I don't think I should. It's a pretty cool oppor... : Goncyn
            • RPGA is where its at. : amrbean
    • what is involved and is the format similar to what we've been doing in our shack groups? (vent + map too... : kpxkrnjc
    • I would like to become an RPGA member even if I can't get in the shack group if at all possible. : Crimsonbeak
• RPGA: So far I've only got 2 sign-ups for the game I wanted to run this coming Sat, and both of them are : Wadmaasi
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  Oh, right, and Character Builder updates today: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/insider/characte... : Wadmaasi
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    Hrm... I never got anything in on my RSS feed. I wonder if it's just a data update. : zebosausamite
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      Yeah, there wasn't a news item that I saw like their usually is. : Wadmaasi
      • Damn it, they changed the scheduling but didn't update the calendar: Originally Posted by WotC_Trevor : Wadmaasi
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  ATTN Goncyn! http://gamingincode.com/?p=76 : Wadmaasi
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    That's a useful bunch of info. I don't see anything that couldn't be figured out by observing how the web... : Goncyn
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      Sorry, dude, you may as well be typing Goblin for all I know what you're saying. =D Hmmm...for Dragon... : Wadmaasi
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        That info (the fact they have the power and the choice of stat) are present in the internal rules tree in... : Goncyn
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          Ah, gotcha. Maybe you can e-mail the dude with the blog and tell him to fix that? *heh* : Wadmaasi
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            I did just e-mail him to ask him if he could share when "part 2" would be available. Then I just looked a... : Goncyn
            • =/ I didn't read the blog at all; I saw a link to it in a forum post which mentioned Character Builder A... : Wadmaasi
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  LAGGERS: I believe we've still got room for one more, a we should probably start getting JohnnyRey (sorr... : one random winner
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    For what it's worth, I've seen a guy DM a tabletop session from a netbook. The small display is going to... : Wadmaasi
    • That's what I was figuring, probably get one with at least a 10.1/ 1280x800 screen. That or I'll put tog... : one random winner
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    Yes, please SM me with your character details, or email me the sheet @ johnnyr_game@yahoo.com : JohnnyRey
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      I've been messing around with maptool and all the tokens and crap. How is that going to work? Do we make ... : Noitall82
      • Uh, good question. to start I was thinking you can just make your own token (I can send you one of your c... : JohnnyRey
  • God I wish I had time for this right now, but my project just went into Alpha and i'll have no life for t... : Bantis
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  CENTRAL: So we haven't played since our first time and it's my fault. I actually don't know that I will b... : c0bra
  • Don't worry about it, you have more important things to deal with. I've been crazy busy with work anyhow... : melkore
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  Wadmaasi, is this your doing? http://gamesbyemail.com/News/DiceOMatic : zebosausamite
  • I almost bought the dice-tower that Gabe posted a few weeks ago, but $85 for a hollow block of wood is to... : Wadmaasi
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  WEST SIDE - hey guys, lets really DO THIS THING tomorrow. I want loots. : hirez
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    how long would the full session last? just trying to prepare the wife for my geekery : hamachi
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      I'd hope we'd go to between 10/11. : hirez
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        This is the usual expectation. Last session was unusual. My official plan is not to go a second past 1... : OverloadUT
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          So I think I am going to be about 30mins late. I inadvertently double booked my social calender and need ... : hbalce1
          • No problem. : OverloadUT
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  Hi I'm super late to the party but I have been checking out MapTools, Character Builder etc. and thinking : Delaric
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    Jump into my LFR session (mentioned above)! It is a one shot session. All you'll really need is the cha... : amrbean
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      You don't even need to know the rules! He ^^^^ doesn't. : Wadmaasi
      • ok I sent a preliminary SM and am installing Character Builder on my work comp. The chars I already roll... : Delaric
• STRAGGLERS You guys never post but everyone else has a subthread so we should too. Some people have spoke... : Goncyn
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  what is url to website again plz : Deathlove
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    www.shacknews.com No, really, which website? : Wadmaasi
    • http://shackdnd.greglaabs.com/forum/ : Goncyn

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  Why 32bit? : zebosausamite
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    yah seriously MS should of dropped 32-bit for Windows 7, there isn't any reason it should still be around... : Shadowdane
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      this machine is not 64bit. why install 64bit on 32bit hardware? : m0rfus
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        What type of processor is it? : zebosausamite
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          Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail : m0rfus
          • That's 64 bit. : jingletard
          • that's a 64 bit cpu : xxx2xxx
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            That processor DOES support 64-bit: http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAY7 Look ... : Smitty
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              i learned something new because of the shack, looks like i will redo with 64bit version. thank you gents! : m0rfus
              • no problem! 64-bit is the way to go from now on. : Smitty
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          wtf does it matter, its not 64bit, you got your answer. : Jinxplayer
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            doh.. : Jinxplayer
            • Hahahaha. : zebosausamite
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        How old is this machine? Basically anything 2005 and older should be 64 bit, including pentium Ds : mroizo40
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          mobo doesnt need to be 64bit as well? heckle and mock me please. i havent built a machine in almost that ... : m0rfus
          • All that matters is the CPU and whether there are 64-bit drivers for all your hardware (there usually are... : Goncyn
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      I wouldn't install 64 bit on anything that has less than 4GB of memory. : Jonathan
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        There's more to 64b than being able to address more than 4GB of RAM. : factor27
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          Such as? : rudds
          • extra bits. : re-verse
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          You can run 64b apps which give you: 64b virtual address space more temp registers (fewer memory transa... : factor27
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            Also the real memory cutoff is between 2 - 3gb, not 4gb : mroizo40
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              More like between about 3 and 3.5. The exact number depends on a few things, mostly the amount of RAM you... : Arctic Fox
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                Default user space/kernel space division is at 2gb for XP. : mroizo40
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                  That doesn't have to do with physical RAM usage, that's the split between virtual address space. : factor27
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                    That matters because in a 32bit exe you're limited by that address space for operations like mem-mapped f... : mroizo40
                    • Sorry, I thought you meant user mode apps could only use 2GB of physical memory in XP, which is not the c... : factor27
            • It can be as much as 3.5GB (or higher, but I haven't seen it). It depends how much memory mapped space i... : factor27
      • I installed win7 64 on my gaming box that has 2GBs of ram and it ran just fine. c2d chip btw. : loboca
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      • Yeah I think netbooks are the limiting factor right now. : Whistler77
      • ^^^^^^^^^^ give this man a prize. : Arsenal
      • The only reason the Atom is 32-bit is because Intel neutered it that way, from what I understand it's no... : one random winner
      • damn forgot about Netbooks... honestly they should just name the 32-bit version Netbook Edition or som... : Shadowdane
    • Agreed. : abrasion
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        http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/default.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/defau... : abrasion
        • There are features in 7 that could be very useful and desirable on 32 bit hardware. : Halen
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  the build has date bombs in the code, you can't buy a new key to keep it active. : metalremains
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    those bunch of twats. thanks. : m0rfus
    • However there are rumours that you will be able to upgrade to the full build without reinstalling. : Arctic Fox
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  RC1 lasts to June 1 2010 but will start shutting down every two hours 2 months prior to that : lordlobo
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    any early indications of the cost? : kainen1
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      more than vista, says Dell http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10242555-64.html : jcupitt
      • They got to recoup some of their losses with Vista somehow. ;D : DM7
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      Free for me! Woot woot! : VectorJKL
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        do tell : kainen1
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          He's probably got a TechNet subscription or similar. : Arctic Fox
          • He's a pirate. Shackbeard. : SeaLlama
        • Technet subscription provided through military. : VectorJKL
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        Same here. My employer buys my OSes for me. One of the little perks. : Entity
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          I need to get my employer that kind of idea. : one random winner
          • yah my last employer had a Technet subscription, got my copy of Vista Ultimate for free. Granted I'm on... : Shadowdane
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          Yeah, I need to work out how to get it cheap. I want legit but not for circa £100 : node
          • powertogether plz : feek
          • So that's W7's price estimate come release time? I want to get an OEM for no more than 100 bucks when t... : kainen1
    • More than Vista for all OEM and retail editions is the early word. : slickdoody

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  No one likes this stuff? : Xin Jing Client 1a
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    that mentioned series of movies makes me sad because they piss on the message of the book they're all bas... : riedlos
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      Agreed, they aren't true to the source which says at least two things: 1. The film was remade 3 times,... : Xin Jing Client 1a
      • Clarification: 1. The novel was made into a film 3 times: 1964, 1971 and 2007. : Xin Jing Client 1a
• yawn. it was a 3 day weekend. we're all to tired for philosophical discussions this early. : hirez
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  I watched Serenity, Star Wars 3, and Star Trek yesterday : kgargs
  • Star Wars 3 as in the third Star Wars movie, or Episode 3? : Cihte
• Watch Steel Dawn. Patrick Swayze is in it, and he's dreamy as a badass desert nomad warrior guy. : DrZettl
• How bout "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? There's another apoc movie for ya with a totally different met... : Delaric
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  If you haven't already, see La Jetee, the Chris Marker film. : Attica Blue
  • I contemplated it, but I have seen 12 Monkeys by Gilliam. Time travel is always a quirky sci-fi subject, : Xin Jing Client 1a
• i am a post-apocalyptic junkie as well! not a fan of zombies though, but i love killing them in l4d. : podizzle
• lol congrats on watching 3 movies based on, but avoiding the content of the same book : MoreVespeneGas
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  While not a post-apocalyptic movie. You should check out the original Assault on Precinct 13. It's a sie... : tetragrammaton
  • The original is pretty fun : MoreVespeneGas
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  I watched the first three Alien movies this weekend. I kinda wish I stopped after the second one. And I'... : Teiresias
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    The 4th has Ron Perlman (Hellboy/Blade) and Ridley humps some aliens. Also it has a flamethrower and some... : MoreVespeneGas
    • Ripley I mean. : MoreVespeneGas
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    Alien 4 works fine as a random space infection action splatter movie thingie : d fluke
    • It also has some of the best scenes involving actual aliens : d fluke
  • Don't bother, Alien Resurrection is pretty awful. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
  • Resurrection isn't nearly as good as the first two, but its better than the third. :-/ : thetangent
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  I like plausible nuclear holocaust scenarios, like Threads, The War Game or The Day After. There's somet... : Lone Swordsman
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    I wish 20th Century Fox would hurry up and release Damnation Alley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnation : Xin Jing Client 1a
    • I said plausible! : Lone Swordsman
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  i heard the postman is a good one : mindshot
  • The book is totally different than the movie, but they're both OK. The cinematography and bleak scenery a... : Enkidu
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  I started reading The Walking Dead (comic book series) and it's amazing. I'd highly recommend that if yo... : Thud
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    I tried Marvel Zombies and found it imediately interesting and quickly disappointing. Marvel Apes was ev... : Xin Jing Client 1a
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      Well i've never read those, and to be honest i'm a complete noob when it comes to comics. So far All i'v... : Thud
      • Walking Dead is great. He has a newish series called The Amazing Wolf-Man, that has two trades out right ... : MoreVespeneGas
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        A great horror series I read years ago was Twisted Tales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_Tales. : Xin Jing Client 1a
        • those are kinda neat, trying to be like the old EC comics. Taboo was pretty vile, that was from the 8... : MoreVespeneGas
    • Boom Studios does some interesting Lovecraft based stuff: Cthulhu Tales - http://www.amazon.com/Cthulh : Dunwich
  • agreed! this comic kicks all kinds of ass! : .Jayson
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  Anyone here pick up the book "Wastelands: Stories Of The Apocalypse"? Is this just a compilation of most... : Xin Jing Client 1a
  • I've read it. I had not read the stories that were in there anywhere else before so I can't speak on if t... : Dunwich
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  I know what you mean! I think I like the themes of abandonment and living for the moment that most of the... : Trips
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    It's a lot of things, but a large portion is the isolation. The "no man is an island" adage come true, l : Xin Jing Client 1a
    • Ha, I said Meredith Burgess. It's Burgess Meridith!! : Xin Jing Client 1a
• check out "Plan 9 from Outer Space" or "Ed Wood"! : cjcharv
• I watched City of Ember last night. Really not the same genre as the films you listed, but it is set in ... : spazzium
• Look for The Day After. : heartsauce
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  Read The Road. There is no more bleak or chilling a post-apocalyptic scenario available in any medium. : rudds
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    http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/the-road/trailer I like the look of the movie, looks like L4D + F... : alphablu
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      its much sadder than either of those i think : spiderfill
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        I agree100% That book had the best imagery about the world and life dying away. :( : DM7
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          I forget everything I read in a book within a few days. Every image I pictured while reading it will stay... : tetragrammaton
          • So are you saying you'll never forget The Roads imagery? Because yeah, I don't think I'll forget it eithe... : DM7
• i would say yes (to your question). its like 28 days later, thats not a zombie film. But then again, it i... : Klebold
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  You know what's weird about I am Legend. Is that in the end he was supposed to be the monster and that th : Pettytheft
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    I think it was supposed to be unfair, but he was outnumbered, so the truth of the situation didn't matter : dirtboxer
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      Some were filled with rage, but some of the Hemocytes (the bad guys) could reason. One let dogs loose. ... : Xin Jing Client 1a
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        Whoops, I was referring to the book. It's really not much like the movie. And I meant that the infect : dirtboxer
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          I'm with you. It's too bad in the three versions of the film someone didn't take a chance and make a f... : Xin Jing Client 1a
          • The infected in Omega Man were fucking awesomely ridiculous. I need to watch that again. : dirtboxer
• Try Outpost. It's low budget, but pretty good : plunkymeadows
• You should pick up the audiobook of I am Legend: http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail : dirtboxer
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  I Am Legend is right up there with Van Helsing and the Mummy Returns as the worst movies I have ever seen... : Poor Yurik
  • Then you have never seen: 1. Stranded http://www.amazon.com/Stranded-Joaquim-Almeida/dp/B000A2X4BU/ref : Xin Jing Client 1a
  • I thought Hollow Man was pretty terrible. The only redeeming quality about that movie though is the ma... : DM7
• Non-fic post-apoc reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Without_Us. Amazon rated it highly http : Xin Jing Client 1a
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  You liked the I Am Legend monsters? They roared. Every Hollywood movie post-The Mummy has roaring mon... : cerealSAM2
  • The roaring guy in the movie I am Legend reminded me of the mummy roaring. :[ ] - roar! : DM7
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    And some of them don't even really roar. They just kinda exhale loudly. : dirtboxer
    • You hop 20, 30 feet at a time you're gonna exhale loudly, too. : cerealSAM2
• The Quiet Earth quirky "parallel universe" brit sci-fi with a decidely end-of-the-world feel http://ww... : flunkydude2@speakeasy.net

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• I'd like to see Valve fix it so that I could trade up items : Maddog_Delphi97
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  if they are smart, TRADING as well : Downforce
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    Usually it is a feature fix they say. Gut tells me it's an achievement fix. : RyDogg1
    • yeah I'd tend to agree. I have a feeling adding trading would blow up horribly anyway. : Downforce
  • I bet that'll come with the next class update : crummynz
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  I think that fix for the Spy's new gun being cheap would be more important. : Sailor of Fortune
  • they already fixed that : kill9
  • They fixed the hitbox problem last Friday : Godhatesfatpeople
• fuck they might as well just remove this entire drop/unlock shit and just give every new stuff at everyon... : HisKillSkill
• Hopefully they also fix the teleporter Spy shit too. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  here it is: The Ambassador now does full critical hits on headshots, instead of mini crits The Cloa... : kill9
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    Nothing too awesome. Nice that the Ambassador might be useful again. : crummynz
    • yeah, it's hinted in the videos as an assassin weapon, one shot at close range should be rapetastic. y... : Downforce
    • i'd like to try one with cloak and dagger : RikiTiki2
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    Re: C&D. So can I no longer stay perpetually cloaked, so long as I rest to recharge? Or does that mean, w... : graceofdragons
    • It reads like a bug fix to me. I'd be shocked if they feel the Cloak and Dagger is overpowered right now. : Felraiser
    • The latter, I think. : crummynz
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    Boo, no fix for teleporter exploit. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Damn. :( : guido anchovy
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      what sploit : RikiTiki2
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        One of your own Engies can build an exit in the resupply rooms (Junction, Dustbowl, Goldrush) and build a... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          just those 3 maps you can build exits in your own spawn? : RikiTiki2
          • Those 3 maps I've seen it in so far. : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Is that new to a recent update? I was using that to rack up some spy achievements on an achievement_id... : Maddog_Delphi97
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            That's with the recent Spy update where they were given the ability to use teleporters. The problem is th... : Godhatesfatpeople
            • Ah, I see. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Looks like "Cloak and Dagger" was a typo - that change is for the Dead Ringer, which is weird but makes m... : Felraiser
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      the update news now says "Dead Ringer" so you are right : RikiTiki2
      • Oh thank goodness, I thought they were nerfing a cool item that I haven't even got to try yet. :( : DM7
      • I feel less bad about always confusing the two now. : DOOManiac
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  Nothing in the patch notes about idlers fix : Serpico74
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    I drove over to valve and said "it's not a problem" and did a /waves hand : Downforce
    • made me lol : graceofdragons
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    how can you even fix that? don't count time spent in spec as unlock time I guess, but a lot of idle maps... : mikecyb
    • require at least one kill every hour or so? : YamatoTwinkie
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  ] connect 68.142.120.162:27016 Network: IP xxx.xxx.1.100, mode MP, dedicated No, ports 27015 SV / 27005 ... : Maddog_Delphi97
  • Nevermind, I connected another way and it worked. : Maddog_Delphi97
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  From: Robin Walker (Robin@valvesoftware.com) Sent: 26 May 2009 19:59:02 To: @hotmail.co.uk) Hi Thoma... : niceguynick
  • just an email posted on the tf2 forums, so looks like they're still tweaking the unlock system : niceguynick

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  Zamfir's greatest hits : cerealSAM2
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    wireless Pan Flute? : grandmasterlee
    • Pan Flute Hero : cerealSAM2
• All Loggins, all the time. : Majuju
• Devo rarities. : jasonepowell
• Weird Al? Finally! : rudds
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  1. 311 – Hey You 2. Against Me! – Piss and Vinega 3. Airborne Toxic Event – Gasoline 4. Alter B... : Masem
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    Needs more Muse. Also, is the Airborne Toxic Event any good? I like their new single. : jingletard
    • a couple very good songs. : boofy
    • It amazes me that Plug In Baby wasn't the first Muse track to be included in these games : losimagic
    • both muse tracks (in 3/WT anyway) are boring as hell to play : brainchild420
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    Du Hast! lol that should be fun to sing. : pigvomit
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      they really are scrapping bottom of the barrel here : askedrelic
      • Are you fucking joking? Rammstein have better songs, but I have wanted them in GH/RB for AGES. I sing alo... : node
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    Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody ! : Patch-e
    • Wow, now that will be fun as hell : nodebug
    • That would pretty much seal the deal right there, wouldn't it? : geedeck
    • I know, right? That makes this an automatic purchase : riptyde
    • God damnit YES! : MatzL.E.
  • My Back Pages seems like an odd choice for a Bob Dylan song. It's a great song, but I'm not sure its real... : Sacred Sperm
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    24. Flogging Molly – Float 88. Tenacious D – Tribute 53. Muse – Plug in Baby 65. Radiohead –... : mwasher
    • Flogging Molly would be awesome. Float's not their best, but I'll take it. Devil's Dance Floor or Salt... : node
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    Sultans of Swing should be fun : jonin
    • Yeah great tune, should be fun and challenging. : node
    • At last! : MatzL.E.
  • I hope this is close to the real list if not actually it - there are so many good songs on here. I'd bu... : thorn23tx
  • i'm going with too many good songs to be real : Audhuml4
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    Is there any guitar hero content that isn't rock music? : dael
    • Such as? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero_4 : Deathlove
    • Other genres usually end up a bit dull to play on certain instruments : nodebug
  • The Mars Volta tune can't be right, it's 16 minutes long. : RyDogg1
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    angel of death? doesn't sound plausible to me... they would get so much shit for that. : Guypz0r
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      They've had Slayer before. : Deathlove
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        angel of death is about killing jews, though. : zerog83
        • Oh, yes, I suppose that MIGHT be a problem. : Deathlove
        • slayer sure brings back memories : Audhuml4
        • if anything it's ABOUT the killing of jews, not killing jews. : moshman
        • IIRC, Metallica tried to get Angel of Death on GH:M and they couldn't do it due to subject matter so they... : tetragrammaton
    • id much rather have the other version of the song, known as KMFDM - Godlike \m/ : -=kodiak=-
  • motherfuckers finally put U2 but no song from Achtung Baby :( : ErneX
  • Greatest Soundgarden song of all time! Might be worth it for that... (that shit is going to be hard!!!) : flagg209
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    Some songs are good, most are horrible. :( : DM7
    • My thoughts exactly. : FormerHPB
  • Wow. There's barely any metal in there... Slayer being the heaviest of the bunch.... HOAX! (here's hopin... : mystifier
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    Rancid – Maxwell Murder Fuck me I need to buy this game now :( Probably the only fun song to pla... : MrLobo
    • good luck with the bass solo : ass-street
  • I would buy this for Holy Wars : megarust32
  • DIRE STRAITS : FrayLo
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    Possibly the worst set list of any of the GH games so far IMO. The should move forward with something... : sticktastic
    • at some point you run out of songs with entertaining parts to play... most bands only have 1 talented mus... : brainchild420
  • Not real.. NFW there's 99 songs and NFW we get Song for the Dead and Geek U.S.A. : CrabsJarrard
  • A few serious gems pushed deep under a tide of songs and artists I either don't know, don't care for, or ... : kallanta
  • Really great tracklist if true, shame about that gross gameplay though. : Xevo
  • lol "The Styx" : sludge vohaul
  • Some great songs, lots of crap ones. I hope all the good stuff is also made available in Rock Band. : Serpico74
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  Do we really need more GH games? Everything should be track packs for RB/ or GHWT from now on IMO. ... : kodt
  • The Bealtes: Rock Band makes sense as a standalone game due to its licensing nightmare. Also, both Leg... : Masem
  • In my time as a podcast listener (about 3 or 4 years) I have heard them go from elation and joy about Gui... : abrasion
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    It's really upsetting that it seems rare that songs will come out for both Guitar Hero AND Rock Band. GH ... : marmite
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      how was the gameplay in GH3 terrible? because it was hard? : brainchild420
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        The notecharts were insanely overdone. They've gotten better, though, with experience. : Deathlove
        • IAWTP. I really DESPISE their full-band interface though, it's too goddamn tiny on a Standard Def TV to b... : Xevo
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        I only played it when I volunteered at a youth center and I sucked at guitar in any RB or GH games but GH... : Sailor of Fortune
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          you griefed him by playing on an easier difficulty than him? that's not the games fault, lol... : brainchild420
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            I think we were on the same difficulty at medium (the kid was only 8-9 and I volunteered at the game stat... : Sailor of Fortune
            • i can only assume that you are talking about the battle mode, but it doesn't work like that at all... : brainchild420
          • it is when you play online. : katchow
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            3 was the one with "special attacks" and shit, and "boss battles". I didn't particularly care for it myse... : Entity
            • uh, thats battle mode, only 1 of the multiplayer modes for GH3 and all of the newer ones... and its the w... : brainchild420
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    gh gets improvements to the interface/control with every game released so, no, i don't want track packs : brainchild420
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      Software has never been patched or changed before via online upgrades, me personally I like the idea of b... : abrasion
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        maybe you should bash yourself in the head with your 36 guitars, since you are being an ass? and you are ... : brainchild420
        • ERR You just clarified my point actually, thanks. : abrasion
    • So more incentive to do it right the first time. : Sailor of Fortune
  • I think there's something like 15 different GH games coming out in the next two years. Oh, not to ment... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  i think the plastic guitar thing has run its course for me. i mean i bought all of them just like ever... : [fry]
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    I'm pretty sure The Beatles: Rock Band will be the last one for me. I have to get that one, though. : pyrogen
    • Yeah I'm gonna buy that, keep getting the must-have RB DLC (mainly Alternative music I grew up listening ... : Xevo
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    Same here. I mean, I've been done with the GH brand since 2, but I bought RB 1 and 2 and a pretty large ... : Begawkiness
    • Yea. I let a friend borrow my Rock band shit for like a month and it was nice being able to walk through ... : Ellissd
    • I'm definitely not....the music games thing is getting a bit saturated. I do not want more shit clogging... : kainen1
    • yup.. i don't see myself buying another RB or GH game. I'll still probably buy DLC every once in a wh... : Shadowdane
  • Same here. Totally played out. I find its not even fun for drunk friends anymore too. Everyone is just ov... : bozer
• HEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH HALLOWED BE THY NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... : r3dn3ck
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  I'm glad I don't play Guitar Hero, because some of these song selections are fucking retarded. They have ... : heartsauce
  • because those are the songs those bands/labels let them use : Deathlove
• still no tea party or or anything with mike patton on vocals :( : CoRDS

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• "Desperate Actors Make a Movie" : glio1337
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  oh Lorenzo Lamas...............what happened! : fadetofunk
  • "obscurity" : -=kodiak=-
  • nothing, he's always been a crappy actor with a crappy career. : Korban
  • He had a hot daughter. : pupismyname
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  I played that without sound. Is this a real movie or parody of some kind? : Attica Blue
  • Oh, very real. http://img.waffleimages.com/95750d9d04d8b4ca700882d8007d827f67348039/megashark5.gif : Lone Swordsman
• after the final battle they should have a dramatic love scene of the shark and octopus with debbie gibson... : arcane_
• can't wait for the videogame :D : r3dn3ck
• oh man i'd watch this : thekidd
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  HOLY SHIT that's Debbie Gibson!! Who among you has not jerked off to her in your youth : boring gegtik
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    I'd jerk it to her today. : Visceral Monkey
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      I just did! : thekidd
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        I'm jerking it right now : Slowtreme
        • i'm jerking it in 2 mins. : xxiv
  • I worked at a hotel in Denver with Debbie's sister Michelle (sales manager) and all the dudes that worked... : royalally
  • yeah, she still is bangable. : whistletits
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    Jibson? : rasputinreborn
    • Man, nice work. : royalally
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    in my ... mouth? : Sze Ior
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      What the... is there a mod edit button or something? I swear it said "mouth". : Moonbase Commander
      • whoa strange.. : deathofrats
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      hey whatever floats your boat : boring gegtik
      • PS. EVERYONE INF HIS POST : boring gegtik
  • http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/tiffany-debbie-gibson.jpg : Skoal^Fyfan
  • i guess she acts now : Mr.SEX
• How about, stay away from the ocean and you win. : DM7
• I've seen everything, now. lol : Rigg5
• I was trying to figure out wtf a jetliner had to do with the movie and then they show it at the end... LO... : malloc
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  The Snakes on A Plane effect =( : action roommate
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    This movie is much, MUCH, worse. : Vantage
    • I know - that's what I mean. The inevitable flood of "copycat" type of movies that try to be actiony and... : action roommate
• good grief. the end times must be near. : hirez
• first I was going to post "shark bit bridge" but then it bit the plane. lol. : grandmasterlee
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  safe for work? : proclone1
  • too cheesy for work : DM7
• I'm going! : rosewood
• lolololololol : ghost hacker
• It looks awe-inspiringly bad : ColoradoCNC

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  should be sold at any headshop. you have headshops near there? : electroly
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    What do I search for in Google "head shops near fairfax, va"? : amrbean
    • or smokeshop. Also some ciggarette stores carry them along with the shisha, coals and whatnot. : bigblack
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      There are always commercials on DC101 for some smokeshop out in Fairfax, but I don't remember the name (s... : umcpwintermute
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        yeah is that the one that always advertises their "tobacco smoking accessories"? : riptyde
        • I think so, and they say their store name like 5 times quickly in a row, I just keep forgetting it. : umcpwintermute
    • Dude, there's web sites for everything. If I really wanted to, I could probably find out when the next KK... : freakynipples69
• you can generally find hookah's at head shops and middle eastern shops : busdriver3030
• space quest 6 : kn1fe
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  buy one from me, please :/ : papaskot
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    You sell them? How do I buy? : amrbean
    • i shackmessaged ya : papaskot
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    I want a kickback. : pancake humper
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      but... i replied first : papaskot
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        we need seconds on post times now. : pancake humper
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          look at the root of this subthread! you posted after me! : papaskot
          • same time!!!! : pancake humper
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    oh man, did the city end up owning you after all that? :( : itsjames
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      I need a backstory here : Arctic Fox
      • it's horribly depressing :( : xsoulbrothax
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        the TLDR edition is that papskot attempted to open up a hookah bar but the city were being massive retard... : itsjames
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          you missed the biggest part of it... they actually DID approve it and he spent all the money doing the... : pancake humper
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            thats a bummer, the pics of the artwork inside looked great : Slowtreme
            • Yeah, he had a time lapse video of it. I don't have the link handy though :( : pancake humper
        • :( That sucks : Arctic Fox
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      sorry all, i was getting an email out to amrbean and didnt see this all take place. Here is a good artic... : papaskot
      • Man, I just don't see how they can do that especially after they approved it the first time. :[ : CrustaR
      • You ever thought about getting a lawyer or something? : CrustaR
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        Fuck that bullshit. So are you pursuing any legal action? Did that $75k just go up in smoke? (no pun in... : Ormsbee
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          Same here. That's the only path visible at this point. : CrustaR
          • working something out is all i'm really going to say on that subject : papaskot
• SM papaskot he is trying to unload some I think. : pancake humper
• my local quickie mart has them, which is odd. They are also common in Mexico and local head shops. : BongSlayerB
• I'm sure a cigar/tobacco shop could order you one : PapaBoo
• open phone book to 'tobacco' : dignan
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  I bought mine here: http://www.hookah-shisha.com : c0bra
  • oh ISN'T the internet. Sorry : c0bra