First Modern Warfare 2 Trailer Debuts

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• WaW had gary oldman and keifer sutherland : greydog
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  Wait, what? Bill Murray did a voice in CoD4? How'd I miss that? holy crap : mrwolf710
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    Not Bill Murray, Billy Murray. : freshyk
    • That would be awesome. You are in the middle of the fire fight, bloody limbs everywhere and suddenly you ... : steauengeglase
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    So, that, uh, grenade blew off my foot, but the Dali Lama said that I'd have total conscience on my death... : mrwolf710
    • We're here at the 18th hole at Augusta. A real Cinderalla story. : yacoub35
• Needs Michael Wincott... : Angry Max
• It makes me think that Captain Price found the Fountain of Youth in COD game somewhere. But IIRC he died ... : Sailor of Fortune

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• I played 2 levels and never touched SP again because of it. That kind of crap should be confined to the 8... : EviL AnGeL
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  Scripting, heavy scripting, makes the kind of content possible that people like me enjoy. Until they can ... : ramshot
  • Half Life 2 is much better at scripting a game but making it seem dynamic and providing levels that are o... : manlyman
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    Agree completely....nobody can come close to the OH SHIT moments that are in Call of Duty games. This is... : supyoscn
    • Yeah, but you don't need infinite spawning enemies to have well scripted moments...my biggest problem isn... : Vorlonesque
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  I believe CoD4 did not have them. If they did it diddn't feel like it. : Sturm08
  • Uh...yeah, I can't really stress how wrong this is. Did you ever play on Veteran? : ArcKnight
  • Yeah I have to confirm this is incredibly wrong... The spawn points are always hidden well, but if you re... : ramshot
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  Yep, I read it in a game informer blowout. No more infinitely respawning enemies or on rails gameplay. T... : UMG
  • I think the on rails was still there, no doubt. Some quote like "every good story is on rails" : johngloid
• I would be happy if you come across a building, 15 enemies shoot from it, you shoot all of them. Then you... : Sailor of Fortune

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  Because you can't get them or what? : unjustend
  • Hardly. As for the op though: supposedly there's a few mods out there that removes airstrikes and what... : fffortune

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  you're crazy not to finish cod4 single player : sreyes22
  • Yeah, it only takes 4 hours or so anyway. : Johnnsen

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  Scripted rocks...allows you to actually have cool effects, cutscenes, and plot!! Screw open ended games ... : supyoscn
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    open-ended has tons of more replay value because you wont have the same exact thing every single time. ... : 1Mystic-G
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      I never usually play single player games more than once anyway. : gibolas1234
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        Indeed. I 10x rather have a great first experience, than X amount of decent ones. It's not like there's a... : ramshot
        • agree, scripted for the win : Angry Max
      • same, scripted ftw, cod4 was amazing : sreyes22
  • I agree with this man. : Snipergen
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    It's just that COD overdoes it like crazy. It's like only one little step away from an arcade lightgun ga... : Pulveri
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      Well, real war is also scripted, the route is planned before going in. : Garfferen
      • Indeed. This manifests in the success story of modern warfare: The George W. Bush fieldtrip to Iraq. "... : VisitorQ
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        Well in real war "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy" and there is no invisible walls left an : Pulveri
        • + comparing COD with real war is like studying pharmacy to play PacMan. : Pulveri
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    FarCry 2 would like to have a word with you. : IndigoAK
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      I played Far Cry 2 for about 3 -4 hrs and it was cool graphically...and had some good ideas, but travelin... : supyoscn
      • Yeah, indeed. The very reason a (good) scripted game is so good is that shit like that doesn't happen ... : ramshot
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        This is a bogus complaint that so many people offer for FarCry 2. If you don't like the checkpoints - av... : IndigoAK
        • avoid them = walk around crouching, or go slowly over a river or a railroad track or what have you. and i... : thebigbeefsandwich
• Roller Coaster vs Dirt Bike FIGHT! : Cygnus X-1
• Just like the 1st one it It does look really cool but just never got into it. : bolneze
• yeah just about all of that was in game cutscenes : dantastic
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  Whatever. The CoD games are some of the best FPS experiences out there. : Fred Garvin
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    Hand over your gamer card. NOW! : Wolfanoz
    • That was meant for 1Mystic btw. : Wolfanoz
• just like the half life series! : -=kodiak=-
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  I'll take a CoD4 or a HL2's 'scripted action' over an open world of Far Cry 2 any day : Cihte
  • I'll take them both...they're different things. : Vorlonesque
• Yay for fun. : eonix

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• agreed. This is totally underutilized right now and makes game worlds less believable. : Neech
• hopefully we're not getting infinite civilian respawns like we do with the enemies : hanged_man

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• Amen. : bryanvlo

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  Did anyone ever actually argue that Treyarch was better? : uncle slappy
  • no... derean is dumb. : greh kleh
  • Treyarch did, probably. : FirstPersonCooter
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    Looks like you missed all the fun in all the WaW threads. : derean
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      WaW was essentially a WW2 mod for CoD4. : uncle slappy
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        My guess is Modern Warfare 2 is going to be a Mod of COD4....but who the hell cares...if the game is bada... : supyoscn
        • i had a lot of fun playing through WaW with three other friends in co-op. definitely a fun game. zombie m... : Mansmells
        • I'm just saying WaW was basically built on the foundation of CoD4, and thus anything making it awesome ca... : uncle slappy
        • It was okay, but it wasn't the balls-to-the-wall roller-coaster ride that COD 4 was. Plus, it had no real... : uncleanmonkey
      • a more fun one at that ;) not saying treyarch is b etter. WaW wouldn't exist without IW but I had more f... : dantastic
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  Treyarch is the only other dev I've ever seen capture the same living battlefield magic that IW has. WaW... : Cygnus X-1
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    Mainly because of Call of Duty 3, which was pretty friggin' bad, however, Treyarch did really good with W... : K1Bond007
    • They have been a great developer for a LONG time. They created Cod: United Offensive expansion pack whic... : supyoscn
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    If you thing WaW (COD5) was good, you need to be shot in the nuts. Repeatedly. The only good thing about... : The_Turbinator
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      Ok so what was a better shooter in 2008 then? : supyoscn
      • Since when do we grade on a bell curve here? : SantaClaws
  • THIS1 : magicfucker
• Treyarch just make copies of Infinity Ward games how could anyone think they are a better developer. : orangesq
• WAW was pretty good, with great production value. And I like having the voice of Jack Bauer in the game. ... : AlvinKlein

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• friggen laser beams lmao.. just watched that the other day lol : Taggart

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• heh, CoD4 has a few "Michael Bay... splosions!" scenes in it. : the archvile
• Millions of people will buy it, that means you're right. Seriously though, does look pretty good, as a... : -JLN-
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  So you are calling people who don't like Michael Bay films morons? Backwards much? : MamiyaOtaru
  • Backwards much? What are you talking about...I was comparing IW Hate to Michael Bay Hate...and how it r... : supyoscn
• this post has irony written all over it : brewsterdog
• I love Michael Bay movies. Actually when I see what people say about movies, music and games online I dis... : Kristian Joensen
• I agree. I love stupid popcorn action movies, maybe I'm contributing to the downfall of humanity in some... : greh kleh

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  Are you serious? That IS in-engine footage. The goofy camera follow and all should tip you off. : TimeDoctor
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    Exactly. It is footage from in the engine, not "actual gameplay" which generally means video of someone ... : OmegaRed59
    • well yeah 9 minutes of some dude walking around and getting killed in MP or dicking around in SP is going... : TimeDoctor
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  Gameplay of an FPS games usually involves seeing something from a first person perspective. There's also ... : shurcool
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    cg_draw2d 0 : TimeDoctor
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      You're right - they've just turned off the HUD display. Other than that, that's exactly how the game will... : shurcool
      • You're right, I'm completely wrong. There is no reason at all to cut up shots of in-game and cutscene foo... : TimeDoctor
• yeah I totally agree. making games look like movies is kind've... insulting. for both medias. : robosextoid
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  For a reveal trailer showing some moron running around in a 1st person view would be lame. It's meant to... : supyoscn
  • For the me exciting parts of a game is when I'm playing, not when I'm looking at a cutscene. : ramshot
  • One problem. This isn't a movie, its a game. I don't doubt Infinity Ward's ability to make a good game,... : majinpsyduck

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• Then take your lips off the dam thing!! : JackAxe
• just a beautiful sentiment..... *backs away slowly......* : cell9song

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  Makarovs are my favorite kind of handgun, I actually want to get one someday. : VaultThirteen
  • They're also cheap to shoot right now. I love my CZ-82 because ammo is still 10 bucks a box for the bett... : Vorlonesque
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  its actually pretty common name, but yeah its funny... at least its not Kalashnikov : Angry Max
  • Yeah I realize the pistol was named after a guy...as most Russian weaponry is (Simonov, Tokarev, etc)...s... : Vorlonesque

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  Honestly I hope Infinity Ward listens to nobody but their gut. Their games improve so much with every ite... : Sturm08
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    You're serious? It's the same dang stuff every time! : EnderWigginDA
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      Yeah, for sure. Who wants more awesome? Awesome fun games are just so overrated. : mrwolf710
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        TBH I find the COD series a little too simple. If you find that awesome, then good for you. Different s... : EnderWigginDA
        • Can I get a Harvard educated opinion on what is a good first person shooter for the intelligent mind? ;) ... : ramshot
        • Simple? I find them incredibly intense. Yes, they are quite linear, but I've found over time the AI acts ... : Sturm08
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    Yep, no one sticks to the rails like they do. : thejay247
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      Not every game has to be an open-world MMO game-type deal. : Super Sparker
      • Agreed. : steauengeglase
      • Agree 100%. : Dantarios
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  You should never take ZP's criticism to heart. He's overtly critical for the sake of being overtly criti... : kpxkrnjc
  • I've been waiting for someone else besides me to say this. : SabinRaijin
  • Exactly. I love ZP because some pet peeves can wreck a game for me. I listen to the review and see if I... : kingdepork

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  Hear hear! CoD has always been about the multi, SP being only the afterthought that you rush through duri... : VisitorQ
  • Before COD4, I played CoD games for the SP content. I would beat them, then beat them with mods, then bea... : abovedefault

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  Normally I'd say fuck yeah, but the PC version came with Punkbuster and all that busted was my rig. : derean
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    ya, it is a shame that Punkbuster is used, I dont know why it is either. I have seen torrents of COD4 tha... : rock42
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      If you've seen how many cheaters a day PB bans, you would see why IW insists on putting it in their softw... : tfsbrian
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        http://www.gametracker.com/search/cod4/?query=cracked thats way more than 10-20 servers, actually. S... : HisKillSkill
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          There's 300 in that list. and there's over 20,000 normal CoD4 servers. : Cihte
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            You're off by a little. The lowest ranked server is rank 10,614, so I assume at different times of the da... : -JLN-
            • I was just going by the number the in-game server browser gave me yesterday. : Cihte
    • CoD1 and CoD2 were released without PunkBuster and the community lobbied pretty hard to get it included i... : deveus1
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  I love CoD4 MP on PC. I couldn't imagine playing it online with a controller. : Vorlonesque
  • oddly, i found it an entirely strange when i played it on PC after spending 2 prestige ranks on 360 : Klebold

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• and that's bad? : Madwacker

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• yeah same here. : festivalman
• HD feed looks blocky to me when it plays (plays smoothly) but SD looks fine....wtf? : Madwacker

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• well I really got annoyed at some parts of the original call of duty and the demo for the expansion pack ... : mrflamey
• I'm a hater. I watch and re watch good movies. But I HATE invisible walls, 2ft high fences I can't clim... : Turd Ferguson

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• da hell... : Cihte
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  ...just a little creepy, FYI. : Johnny Law
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    Don't you think we are past a point in games where you accidentally shoot a team mate, or a innocent civi... : penny_flame
    • some of us can differentiate real life and video games. : Wshmaster0
    • Aight, when you put it that way I see your point. It makes sense from the POV of a better simulation, or... : Johnny Law
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      okay, how about your NPC squadmates incapacitate and restrain you on the way to a court martial and milit... : the archvile
      • > if you TK'd in America's Army, you'd instantly pop into a military prison with a harmonica playing in t... : Dr_Cube
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      I think decisions like this have more to do with the Microsoft and Sony certification processes than anyt... : -efx-
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        Nope, they don't have a say in any of this. If anything it would be the ESRB, but it is still not. Its t... : Sgt_Boomstick
        • Actually, they will have certain rules you can't break but maybe in certain cases it's more up to the pub... : -efx-
    • Well if you're going to argue realism, I don't think you would get very far after shooting civilians or ... : gibolas1234
    • But COD's always gone for a more arcade experience. If you want a proper simulation then you shoot a civi... : bryanvlo
    • But COD's always gone for a more arcade experience. If you want a proper simulation then you shoot a civi... : bryanvlo
    • Are you Keanu Reeves? : CRasterImage
    • So it's the game's fault that you can't aim? : heartsauce
  • 2nd'd : CaptCommie
• Are you the porn star? : soggybagel
• Dude, this looks like an action movie, not "Modern Warfare". Do I care? No. : ElArabDeMagnifico
• haha, you freak : moshman

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• LOL I think they did. It's the same sound effects as the second TF2 trailer. Wow nice catch. : ajvitaly

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• First one didn't have them, but I'm not sure the models had self-shadowing either. Hope it's not in the P... : hamliga

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  That is my guess...it's a little stretch, but I bet IW put this in their new contract with Activision so ... : johngloid
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    The rap at the end of COD4 calls it the "third instalment", so it's pretty clear that IW does not conside... : uncleanmonkey
    • Yeah there's been some obvious heat between the two for a while now : johngloid

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• http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x80v0u_michael-gurr-starts-with-goodbye_music or just bright eyes : johngloid

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• I'll say they look really realistic. : RogerDandy
• you have any favs? : johngloid

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• Neither did I. : steauengeglase

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  Haha, Nov 10 is my birthday too! : pturvz
  • Word up! : Mad BH
• Veteran's Day is right around the corner too. : Sailor of Fortune
• Hooyah! : Kolpath

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  you obviously have never watched the DNF 2001 E3 Trailer... baring technical aspects AND vaporware vs ... : dedgecko
  • Or the original Halo trailer before it became a console game. : thejay247
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  You're probably a young one, so you probably didn't witness the awesomness of the MGS2 trailer : Cihte
  • Yeah MGS2 trailer was probably the best ever. : ease one
  • yeah this, changed my view of games as a teen : klearlyunseen
• You probably missed all of the World in Conflict trailers...they were awesome! Also Ubisoft does a great... : supyoscn
• Yep, the WIC: Soviet Assault trailers are AMAZING!! My favourite - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEnaX55... : scary_monster

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  why would they show gameplay? you know how cod is going to play, though all of that was done in engine... : dedgecko
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    if gameplay is superior, then they SHOULD show gameplay.. : doomed
    • They have til november to show gameplay trailers and all that good stuff, this is just the beginning :D : tfsbrian
  • Maybe he was referring to the "gameplay" as in how the game plays and not what cutscenes look like... not... : FuryVII

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• amen! : DougL
• i couldn't agree more. : Dantarios
• IAWTFY : razorblade79