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• McG. Heh. : Visceral Monkey
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  And FUCK, in the first scene explaining things they talk about how the machines are targeting Kyle Reese : Serpico74
  • Oh jesus, that's painful. I'm going to hate this movie. : brickmatt
  • I must have switched my brain off when I saw this - because I enjoyed it. : action roommate
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  I am probably going to avoid this, thanks for the heads up : Mr.SEX
  • Yeah, you should. It has two neat sequences (probably under 5 minutes total), but that's it. Don't let th... : Serpico74
  • We agree! : brickmatt
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  i knew this movie would blow when i found out mcg was directing it. anybody that makes charlie's angels ... : arizona bay
  • He actually staged a very impressive sequence near the beginning of the film. Its a crazy single continuo... : Serpico74
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    The thing that bothers me is that McG was obviously trying to make a "serious, dark, gritty" film and sha : Serpico74
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      i just wish he would change his name : arizona bay
      • I don't care about his name, I just wish he made a better movie. : Serpico74
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  you guys are just holding your standards too high. its not going to be better than 1 or 2, so just forget... : mindshot
  • In a series that threw its own time travel logic out the window with T2, this goes WAY the fuck out of bo... : Serpico74
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    Are people expecting this to be as good as T2? I went in expecting shit, and somehow this movie ended up... : choppp
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      My expectations were lowwww, just like with T3, and the best thing I can say about it is that it was bett... : Serpico74
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        Hahah.... ouch ...duly noted - I will see Star Trek instead [if I get a chance to see either!] - I still ... : PlanetPerfecto
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          Star Trek was really good! : Serpico74
          • Oh well. At least we'll always have that smashing on-set tirade Bale goes into, captured forever. The aud... : PlanetPerfecto
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  So is it better or worse than T3? I liked the third one but I know a lot of people didn't. : Mmmmmoo
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    IMO its worse. T3 had stupid jokes and a lame villain but at least it had some humor, it had an amazing c : Serpico74
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      I'm glad I am movie retarded. I didn't even stop to consider that shit you mentioned re: skynet's knowled... : Morgin
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        also, i wish it was more like the beginning of T2. Where are my lasers? :( : Morgin
        • Dude, I know. :( What I also thought was weird is that even though the movie had this really shitty fo... : Serpico74
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        I thought the whole helicopter crash at the beginning was really good, and I liked the bike chase. Unfort... : Serpico74
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          I liked the factory battle. It was pretty awesome seeing the endo fuck shit up and just not stop. : NFXFSX
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            See, that bugged me too. In The Terminator, you don't get anywhere NEAR that fucking endoskeleton. Kyle R : Serpico74
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              Whaaaaaaaat. Seriously? What. Oh god. : brickmatt
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                I KNOW : Serpico74
                • I was expecting them to fuck up the timeline, and maybe the characters even. Probably. But that level o... : brickmatt
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                This is the closest thing I could find to that fight between Connor and the T-800: http://www.youtube.com... : Serpico74
                • Totally loling here, I just watched that episode the other day. : brickmatt
                • I like how Bale takes a bunch of hits from the T-800, but then Marcus gets one punch and hes down. Oh, a : choppp
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              wtf?? A director, producer, screenwriter, actors, and visual effects people all had to be ok with that fo... : haiku
              • It's painful to imagine the stupidity. Or apathy? Or maybe just the desire for moneyhats. But seriousl... : brickmatt
              • $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ : Prozium
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                Dude, that is nothing. The core conflict in the film is based on Skynet targeting Kyle Reese for terminat : Serpico74
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                  I know time travel is a bit confusing, but how did everyone fail to think this through? Even a little? : brickmatt
                  • I really couldn't believe it when I heard that guy say his name. Time travel can be a little confusing bu... : Serpico74
                  • hint they didn't care. The story doesn't matter in this movie. all that said, maybe from the future wh... : Morgin
                • Maybe they're being advised by terminators sent from the future. This movie sounds bad. =( : Senate5000
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                  Since you work in the industry, do you have any insight on how things like this happen? I know Producers ... : haiku
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                    People are stupid assholes. : Serpico74
                    • I wished there was some way I could provide positive reinforcement for good writing. It's so rare. I watc : brickmatt
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                      Seriously, people ask me often why I'm not in a rush to work on movies, and aside from the lower pay scal : Serpico74
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                        I wish I knew more about how the industry works. How people like McG con their way into director positions on several hundred million dollar projects, how Brett Ratner got X-Men 3, and then somehow just because 2 good writers and a good director get involved in a batman movie, you end up with a masterpiece. There is no way to tell what is going to end up being amazing and what is going to end up being confusingly bad.
                        
                        Like Iron Man could have been just as much of a pile of bullshit as Wolverine, but somehow it wasn't and it was pretty awesome. I just don't get it.

                        May 22, 2009 12:18am PDT
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                        I wish I knew more about how the industry works. How people like McG con their way into director position... : haiku
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                          Hexon worked on X3, I'm sure he can tell you all you need to know about Ratner. Another buddy worked dire... : Morgin
                          • Didn't Ratner get X3 because he was basically one of the few directors available to shoot the movie? Matt... : Prozium
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                          Both McG and Brett Ratner (I was an intern on his first movie) are very very charismatic and motivating p : Serpico74
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                            Well. They can't take Robocop from us. : haiku
                            • No they can't, sir : Serpico74
                        • in the case of The Dark Knight I know that Nolan and his writers were basically given free reign. Like n... : mikecyb
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                          I want to know how they made Casino Royale and then Quantum of Solace only 18 months later, it's like one... : abrasion
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                            they changed directors didnt they? : Chandler55
                            • They changed WORLDS man, changed WORLDS. : abrasion
                          • its the 18 months later bit that's the clue. Casino Royale had a good script. Quantum started shootin... : alnya
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                  lol.. what was also terrible was the whole Marcus plan that Skynet devised. Let's make this perfect in : das_runt
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                    omg, I'm dying : Serpico74
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                      But seriously... If we're supposed to believe that SkyNet knows who Kyle Reese is... THEN WHY THE FUCK : das_runt
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                        The second minute of Arnold in The Terminator showed the best way to terminate a man: you rip his heart o... : Serpico74
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                          It brings a tear to my eye. : das_runt
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                            no SERIOUSLY It's one thing when one writer takes his own take on a character. I didn't like how T3's : das_runt
                            • Spot on right there : Serpico74
                            • I am so glad I am reading these spoilers, this movie sounds exactly like something I would hate. The ques... : abrasion
                            • wait one fucking moment here. Are you telling me that they didn't kill THE BLACK GUY?!?!?! What kind of b... : sesmaster
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                  Why anyone expected McG to deliver is beyond me. I don't know what digital acid they put in those trailer... : Godhatesfatpeople
                  • Not enough, someone should have pointed out that it wasn't just crap or whatever, that it just didn't mak : Serpico74
                • Oh my god :( This is the saddest news I've heard all day. I can never watch this movie now. : ieGod
            • to be fair, the thing had taken a number of grenades, and it was the first model t-800, so the alloys the : Morgin
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              Hm. I'm wondering if I should still go see this movie. I currently have very low expectations for this mo... : Mmmmmoo
              • Eh, go ahead if you're still curious, there's five minutes of decent stuff in two hours of movie. That ma... : Serpico74
              • If you are a "i like fun movies" kind of person, you will probably like it. If you like fun movies but... : Morgin
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              Did I just read that? T1's T-800 fucks people up, it was a proper horror movie, wtf! : abrasion
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                Its the full on boogy man, you run and don't let that thing get anywhere near you. Here they're all wrest... : Serpico74
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                  I love how scary he is in Terminator 1, that's why you respect him in T2 and T3 - if anything can even sl... : abrasion
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                    You gotta watch the bad. Just to gauge your references. Watch them on cable while drunk/high or with frie... : Godhatesfatpeople
                    • Maybe with T4, since I don't adore the franchise but I'll never watch Indy 4, ever. : abrasion
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                    I'm actually glad I saw it now, this thread made me laugh and my friends have something new to talk shit ... : Serpico74
                    • I can't thank you enough :( : abrasion
            • WTF??? A fistfight with an endoskeleton. : matthaeus
            • That's the part that made the whole theater bust out in laughter. : Godhatesfatpeople
            • Ahahaha. I might have to catch this on DVD just for this scene. It sounds so patently ridiculous. : ZTac
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          I liked the part where Connor played GNR's You Could Be Mine to catch himself a motorcycle.]/ : Prozium
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            Yeah, I liked that too. :) : Serpico74
            • It was even the same style of tape player that he had in T2. : das_runt
        • I actually liked the part where they pulled up to the gas station, up until it didn't turn out to be the : Morgin
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          Oh, and again, I really liked Kyle Reese in this movie, that actor did a great job, I bought that it was ... : Serpico74
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            That was Chekov, right? Not surprised he nailed it. Too bad they didn't make the movie about him. : brickmatt
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              I kinda wish the movie was a few years further in the future with an older Kyle Reese, just before he's s : Prozium
              • I wish for a lot of things, like a pony. =( It's sad they missed this opportunity. : brickmatt
    • WHAT THE FUCK. terminator 3 was fucking terrible, on all counts. the humor sucked. the bad terminator suc... : xxiv
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    I thought T3 was fine, considering the lore of the series dictated their path fairly tightly. With what ... : abrasion
    • the only thing i remember about that movie is john connor looks like a rat and the "terminatrix" inflates... : xxiv
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      It was not exactly the lore parts of T3 that people are complaining about. It was in fact the everything ... : SpaecKow
      • ^^^^^^^^ : xxiv
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  My friend did a lot of VFX for this movie. I was over at his place last month. I thought the trailer lo... : midgetherder
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    Hahah : Serpico74
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      I wonder what scene it was when Bale went off on the DP. : Prozium
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        Apparently it was supposed to be the emotional climax of the movie. Judging by this thread that may no... : spazzium
        • Pretty sure it was the "We've been at war since before either of us existed" line. I was looking for it,... : fleabug
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          http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/terminator/terminator-pictures-funny-1.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
          • lol! : Super Sparker
          • You're really getting a lot of mileage out of that aren't you. : not work safe
          • Hah. : ieGod
      • That should have played in a gag reel over the end credits. : Serpico74
• I liked it for what it was...a summer action film. : NFXFSX
• I blame the messenger. Fuck you Serpico74. : Kentor
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  I have a question for you. Bay for Transformers McG for T4 Which is worse in your opinion? : pigvomit
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    It has to be McG for Terminators. Who ever expected a movie about cartoon shape-changing robots to be goo... : brickmatt
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      T1 Brilliant?? Really? have you watched that movie?? Sure, it was great in the sense that it setup a gr... : ShadowRam
      • If it wasn't for T2, T1 probably wouldn't have been remembered by 1/2 the people here. : ShadowRam
  • McG just because he has no excuse to really fuck up an opportunity like that. With Transformers, you knew... : haiku
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    Different. Transformers is heinous shit, while T4 is squandered opportunity. One makes me angry, the othe... : Serpico74
    • Thank you for your review Serpico. Your tastes mirror mine and you've saved me $15 and 2 hours. Gracias. : ahlee
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    I thought Transformers was really good :( : losimagic
    • Me too why the hate everyone? It's just like the cartoon. Maybe how you remember it is fucked? : RogerDandy
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    transformers2 is gonna be dark knight awesome you'll see : Chandler55
    • I almost Lol'd : Dontdrop
    • I just threw up in my mouth and then gargled it so I could forget what I just read : bozer
  • Transformers was a good movie because nothing else came before it so it could crack jokes and not have to... : stgdz
• lol. owned. : Magus
• Update: still crying. Watching T1 to feel better. : brickmatt
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  haha told you. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Its ok, this thread cracked me up and now me and my friends have something new to rip on. Glass is half f... : Serpico74
    • Our audience really didn't take too well to it either. When the ending came up, so did laughter. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I have trouble imagining how this is possible when the trailer looks so good. I guess it just means we'll... : BlackCat9
  • Just think about Matrix 2 :( : matthaeus
• They've been playing the first three movies on TV lately. I'll happily sit and watch the first one anytim... : Dave-A
• Man, so fucking depressing, I really wanted this to be good. I really did :( : SpaecKow
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19869524#itemanchor_19869524 : industro
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  i dont understand the hate. what are people expecting? i expected some robots from the future blowing u... : papaskot
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    Me too - I'm not getting the hate either. I mean, I didn't have big expectations - but other people here : action roommate
    • no it's a very entertaining movie. i liked it, and will be buying the BR. : xxiv
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    I was expecting a proper following of story and time lines, with respect to what was already established ... : ieGod
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      I will fully admit that the story and general adherence to canon is pretty shittastic. But I didn't expe... : action roommate
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        I thought they did a pretty good job not contradicting the previous movies. : Arcanum
        • How do you propose Skynet knew that Kyle Reese is John Connor's father and that John Connor was a threat : Serpico74
  • Exactly. I mean Cameron himself ripped off Harlan Ellison for the first movie. It's just xeroxes of sci-f... : gooblerampling
  • I don't expect a fisticuffs foight of da centurah! between a human and terminator as described here http:... : ZTac
  • No, you got robots from the future throwing people into walls and taking punches from them. I saw no assk... : Serpico74
• It wasn't that bad at all. People just like to exaggerate how bad it is because it's a sequel to a couple... : lplasmatron
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  Bullshit, I enjoyed it. : ShadowRam
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    (and I hate bail) : ShadowRam
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      are you trying to string together a series of posts discrediting yourself? : aeg1x
      • Nope, just adding to my own thoughts. Not sure what your getting at? : ShadowRam
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  you know y T1/T2 is so good for me? because i watched it as a kid. if i watched those movies today for ... : vassili_zaitsev
  • endless debates about robotcop vs terminator vs aliens vs predator vs whatever else. i know what you mean... : xxiv
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    Bullshit, I saw the Matrix at ...21 years old and the entire concept literally (!) had my jaw drop in the... : abrasion
    • the matrix also wasnt made int he 80s... : brainchild420
• Okay, I won't see it. Here's my T4 movie: Opening credits show a montage of scenes that span 10-15 ye... : kek
• I didn't hate it, but I'm in no hurry to ever see it again. Mostly it just reeked of wasted potential. N : disdain