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  What is Evony and How Do I Get Started? Evony is a web-based MMO with a slick Flash interface. It looks : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Xanad (719,296) : x4nth3
  • Samekh : samekh
  • Kelzmelzer (674,267) : kelzmelzer
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    LolPatrol - 767,211 : lolpatrol
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      Oh no...you can in right between me and the horde leader...lol. : CapnChaos
      • That'd be Hobock, stacked around the two npc cities, huh? Ah, there you are. Whelp, I've got 7 days... : lolpatrol
    • 4th city added (stolen from a Horde member) Vik 713,204 : CalibanX
  • MChain (683,303) : MarkovChain
  • phazey <-- I just created an account, but whilst I'm building things, keep me in mind please! :) : -phazey-
  • UPDATE All info above this post is now in my list. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Matz (577,61) : MatzL.E.
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  Noob Guides & Helpful Info (Updated 2009-05-15) 1) Do not upgrade your Town Hall to Level 5. Doing so wi : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Other acceptable flags I'd love to see: Shaq Lamp Sand Lime 8==D ILTC : Agrona
    • My vote is definitely for ILTC : Ride-My-Rocket
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  i hate you guys. i started playing this last night. i blame Reptile and Sanchez. : m0rfus
  • although i cannot play at work. :'-( : m0rfus
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  War Zone Download the latest list of enemies here ( http://ride-my-rocket.shackspace.com/evony/Enemies.p : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Could you add ManHobock at (765, 214) and (767, 215)? He (and three other horde) came in after I was atta... : CapnChaos
  • Swineville has teleported to 639, 245 after receiving multiple beatings from myself and Desten today. : fuell
  • Sackville has ported out as well, no clue where he ended up. : stonedonkey
  • I see another Horde North of me. His name is Aquinas and his two cities are: 793, 217 and 794, 217 : cheeseman162
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  niceboy131 is a friend of Caliban's and has the second largest army (after chem). He's also donated a lot... : fuell
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    ^^ verify this, and I think Skid is not a spy risk. desten is non-shack but ok too, friend of caliban. : ]pm[chem
    • but verify I mean, I concur : ]pm[chem
    • Cool. Sorry if ya'll have posted this info before... it's hard to keep track of everything. I'll update... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  how can I join the alliance? : MagicWishMonkey
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    First, read this ( http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19943689 ) if you haven't started playing yet. Th... : Ride-My-Rocket
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      I'm playing, you have me in your list of shackers... my city is called MonkeyTown, shoot me an invite whe... : MagicWishMonkey
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        I have you in my list, but I don't know your in-game name. Vat ist? : Ride-My-Rocket
        • WishMonkey : MagicWishMonkey
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  Gingavitis is a IRL friend of mine, who recently joined the shack and Evony. I guess he got kicked from... : slickdoody
  • I'll send him another invite, then. Sorry to hear about the attacks... : Ride-My-Rocket
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    if he keeps playing we can fund his rebuilding sometime. just never saw him in guildchat and no idea who... : ]pm[chem
    • ya, I don't blame you for kicking him. :) There was no way to know who he was. : slickdoody
• Great, I log on for the 5minutes I have before I go to work just to start some long build/research and th... : sanchez
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  Skid joined us from that alliance we're friendly with iirc : sanchez
  • he posted his shack name yesterday in Alliance chat, but i forgot :( : naabster
  • I don't think he was actually in Hidden. But he did just join us randomly early on. I don't think he's a ... : OverloadUT
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  Going to attempt to conquer my first city today now that I've ranked up to Baronet and can claim a third.... : fuell
  • If you want to keep conquering, use your last spot to conquer + abandon. As a bonus, you'll produce farm... : Agrona
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  This server crashes more than Oceanic 815 : OverloadUT
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    interestingly the server state persists; events are usually not pushed back. I am not sure if it's a cra... : ]pm[chem
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      I would expect that the way the code handles events makes up for lost time. In a game where all of the ti : OverloadUT
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        Also playing this game has made me want to make my own. Mine would be space themed and it would be awesom... : OverloadUT
        • Planetarion with graphics! : d fluke
      • (It used to roll back about 5 minutes every time it crashed. Enough complaints from servers 1 and 2 and ... : Agrona
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    goddamn right. I just brought myself out of protection, and the server crashes are making everything impo... : re-verse
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      It's back. : fuell
      • It was, at least. : cyclonebee
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    This is making it annoyingly more challenging to conquer dude's city than it should otherwise be. : fuell
    • However, it can also work to your advantage. If someone's relying on precise timing to dodge a coordinat... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  afternoon attack: I launched a massive attack on 750,352 that is due to arrive at 3:20pm CENTRAL. If you... : ]pm[chem
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    ^^^ ok actually it will hit at 3:11pm. if you would get there before me, you can use 'camp' function wh... : ]pm[chem
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      update: he has not reinforced, attack still undetected. proceed after me. : ]pm[chem
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        success! he saw the attack coming at the last second and closed gates and moved his resources away (cry)... : ]pm[chem
        • These Horde guys generally have no balls. Agreed. They use pussy tactics and only hit derelict or begi... : fuell
  • Haha, so few defenses for that many resources. He's just painted a giant target on his city. : Agrona
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  Where do you need to be economy wise before you want to reach level 5 city? : byorn
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    I wouldn't leave beginner protection voluntarily without 2-3k archer towers and an army with at least 2k ... : edgewise
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      Do you have to stock the towers in some way or do you just have to have a certain number archers and they... : byorn
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        no stocking required, no food/resource used as upkeep, no archer necessary to man it. They're a bitch to ... : edgewise
        • thanks! What population should I be aiming at to support an army/infrastructure like that? : byorn
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      the numbers in this game seem insane. Rather than dealing with numbers in the 100's, everything is WELL b... : byorn
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        unused resources are a waste and make you a tasty target. Queue up some production, or get building. : edgewise
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          You can queue up production? : MagicWishMonkey
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            You can queue up unit production and defense production. Just not building upgrades or research. : OverloadUT
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              Ahhh ok, thats still good to know though Can you sell iron and stuff for gold? : MagicWishMonkey
              • Yes you can although their prices are very very low. Lumber is worth 3-5x more than them. : OverloadUT
• up and down, up and down. Are the other servers this fucked up? : edgewise
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  I was inactive for several days and it seems that I got booted from the alliance. I attempted to join aga... : sonicstorm
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    If you're going to be active again we can kick an inactive user and let you back in. : OverloadUT
    • Yeah I'm back from vacation now, so there won't be any more lapses of several days. :D : sonicstorm
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  I was out of town over the weekend and got completely wiped out. Fuck. : dudehoyt
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    Noticed :( We can help you rebuild very, very quickly though. : daedraug
    • Yeah i think I'm gonna need some help. : dudehoyt
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  Are we at war with Empire? My Empire neighbor (620, 213) just spent the weekend plundering my cities. Hor... : Lrd_Cujo
  • I messaged my Empire neighbour and had him stop raping me by offering a truce. No point in running rape-t... : d fluke
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  ShackNews Alliance 2: The Sequel: Seems there's enough new people posting, and I hate to see RMR say "... : Agrona
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    ShaqES FileShaq? : d fluke
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      I'm not super-comfortable with this. I'd rather stick with the Shaquille disguise - I Don't want to dr... : Agrona
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        ShaqFu*? * Best game ever? : d fluke
        • Ahah, wtf http://www.shaqfu.com/ourmission.php : d fluke
        • This name should win. : gnomish
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        I have a Ritual of Pact btw, I can join the new one and use it right off the bat : d fluke
        • Excellent! Thanks for the info. I'm leaving straght from work to get wasted, so I probably won't be on ... : Agrona
  • Shaq2Foo. : edgewise
  • SackFly : stonedonkey
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    WLTC : buzzbat
    • this is a good one. Obscure enough it won't lead enemies to the shack. : re-verse
  • Shaqfoos : dromo5
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    I like keeping "Shaq" in the name because it's awesome that most people think we're a Shaquille O'Neal gr... : OverloadUT
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      Really? The top hit for ShaqNews is Shacknews. : Kentor
      • Yeah but most people are not going to search the web for our alliance name. They're just going to look at... : OverloadUT
  • ShaqAtak : Fayk
  • realshaq : Kentor
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    ShaqNews : fuell
    • ^^^ Do this since alliance names are case sensitive. : fuell
  • SharqPoos : slickdoody
  • PsyShaq : kelzmelzer
  • You're the man, Argona. Thanks for doing this... we'll all do what we can to help keep the workload mana... : Ride-My-Rocket
• hey, note on who NOT to attack: do not attack members of a top 80 alliance, even if they seem inactive. ... : ]pm[chem
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  We ought to coordinate an attack on j-man77, who is far and away Horde's most aggressive player. He's bee... : fuell
  • yes, he is on my list, action will be taken sooner or later : ]pm[chem
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  CITY CAPTURED! Remember Giantfish, the guy who threatened me and was the first Horde guy that chem lau... : OverloadUT
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    nice! post links to any interesting battle reports :) : ]pm[chem
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      Haha more like an hour of 10 scouts vs nothing, slowly reducing his loyalty : OverloadUT
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        Is that pretty much it? Just keep spamming scouts until loyatly hits what 15? Then mass attack your who... : stonedonkey
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          IF the guy has an army there then it will attack when loyalty is below 5. The thing that happens at 15 is... : OverloadUT
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            Really? I assumed attacks affected loyalty, just by less than a whole point. If you can just stop attac... : Agrona
            • Unfortunately not, which is annoying because you can't tell if you're at 100 or not. It doesn't take THAT... : OverloadUT
  • Enjoyed watching that flash across the screen.. glorious. : stonedonkey
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  If you guys were to build a second city very near your first, would you consider just building farms and ... : edgewise
  • Already did it, would do again. : Caoster007
  • Absolutely. : OverloadUT
  • I think I'm going to do 4x mine, 4x quarry, the rest split evenly between farms and sawmills. I don't w... : Agrona
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    This seems like a good plan to me. I barely even use stone, but I burn through wood and food like it's g... : riptyde
    • You should be using stone like crazy for those archer towers! You want tens of thousands of them. : Agrona
  • I did this - however I needed to build one iron mine and one quarry so I could build other things inside ... : trOmblyj
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  shack raiders: there is... another. I have located a target (or two!) relatively close to my home city (... : ]pm[chem
  • (714,337) NO DEFENSES outside, under 1000 troops (and no archers) inside -- 42 loyalty -- scout rush and ... : ]pm[chem
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  Captured another Horde city! Took NewYork from LightHead of Horde about 30 minutes ago, which has, among ... : fuell
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    this post needs more love. nice score! : ]pm[chem
    • There's a vacant lot next to my city, how can I build a new city there? : MagicWishMonkey
  • holy crap, great job. : slickdoody
  • Nice! That's what j-man77 would've been able to say about me had I not teleported. :D : skizl
  • well done sir! : CalibanX
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    Get agriculture 10 while you still can! What a waste of a Mike's script, though. : Agrona
    • The Horde member I took a city from also had a L10 farm. Not the city I ended up capturing though. :( : OverloadUT
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  Game: Civony / Evony Player Name: Niceboy131 Alliance: Shaqnews i'm here!! i'm not a spy : niceboy1314
  • ^^ welcome sir! : CalibanX
  • ^^^a spy : buzzbat
  • ^^^^^ jessicaslumberparty : xsoulbrothax
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    Hmm, you registered today, and you want us to believe you are NOT a spy! HAHAHAHA! : trOmblyj
    • We'll have to give him a barrage of lurker verification questions. : Agrona
    • He's CalibanX's friend. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • God, what a fag. I updated the XLS with your name... welcome to the fold. :) : Ride-My-Rocket
• Woot, I just raided my first NPC city. Didn't quite send enough troops... I put together a handy spreads... : riptyde

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  You forgot Chuck and Heroes : jbury
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    No, he mentioned the good shows. : gooblerampling
    • Well, he was 50% right. Thank god Chuck at least got renewed for half a season. : Totenjaeger
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      If you just implied Chuck is anything less than awesome (in your opinion)... I will fucking end you : jbury
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        Chuck is a vanilla rehash of old ideas that can't decide if it is a comedy or a drama. I can see how it w... : gooblerampling
        • Make with the ending, jbury. : mafu5150
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          It made up it's mind. It's a dramady. : Matt Burris
          • I always forget, is that one hump or two? : cerealSAM2
        • lol you clearly don't know wtf if you think Chuck has ever even tried to be only a drama or only a comedy... : derelict515
      • THAT'S RIGHT! MAKE THE FUCKER SOME JBURY STILE CHICKEN AND END HIM! : dfz0r
• You are paying for your parents and grandparents sins against the television gods. Genetics karma is a b... : one random winner
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  24 finale tonight! : opengl128
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    Let's hope Kim dies. : Senate5000
    • I would have no problem with this. : Link.
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      She must die so Jack may live. : stump
      • Ya I was kinda hoping they go this way. "Jack, your daugter is dead but she wanted you to live on and ... : Senate5000
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  No new 30 Rock is the greater tragedy. : trOmblyj
  • I didn't start watching it until this season, so I went back and I'm through the first six episodes of Se... : PapaBoo
  • ^^^^ this and Better Off Ted :( :( : dissembler
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  Isn't Supernatural starting? Or did it just end? Wtf. : lightly inclined
  • ended : mmaster_pw
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    Never seen an episode, but I'm a huge fan of horror movies and anything horror or supernatural. Is this s... : Gary the Llama
    • Trust me, there are no MENSA level conversations about sleeping with your teacher. : Totenjaeger
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      It's uneven, some episodes are great, some are so-so. It's definitely not Dawson Creek with ghosts though... : melt_core
      • This last season has been more for people who have been following the entire run of episodes than anythin... : c0bra
    • How can anybody hate a show that decides to title one of it's episodes "Criss Angel Is A Douchebag". : Totenjaeger
    • Supernatural is great. : c0bra
• I have started watching those logging shows on the learning channels. They are kind of like Deadliest Cat... : eldiablo01
• More time for games! (I hate having to watch TV in real time :/ ) : Masem
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  Burn Notice in two and a half weeks. : Totenjaeger
  • Sweet! I love that show. : umcpwintermute
  • Yeah I'm really glad it will still be airing in the summertime : Begawkiness
  • WooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOo : heartsauce
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  Lie To Me too. The Unusuals are still going on though, right? : kramweil
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    is that show any good? : smax
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      I enjoy the hell out of The Unusuals. : Super Sparker
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        Too bad it has been canceled after this season. : Totenjaeger
        • :( : Super Sparker
    • Lie To Me is like House, except with Tim Roth, and it's about lie-detection. The Unusuals is light-hearte... : kramweil
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  How I Met Your Mother season finale tonight! : zerog83
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    But what IS the difference between peanut butter and jam? :p : Toraz Chryx
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      you can't peanut butter your penis into a girl's ass! : zerog83
      • I disagree. Vehemently. : mafu5150
      • But you CAN Peanut butter in her ass, strange but true! : Toraz Chryx
• Terminator on Wed, and Up next week. : Crimsonbeak
• So go watch old shows, like Blackadder or Monty Python. : Lone Swordsman
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  When is The Office over? : pancake humper
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    i thought last week was the finale : dirge23
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      if that was the finale, that was pretty shitty : dantastic
      • I'm pretty sure the answer is yes and yes. : one random winner
  • last week : smax
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  I'm so glad everything's over so I don't feel tied down to the TV for a while. : ThomW
  • Yeah, my DVR is finally not piling up every day. : Totenjaeger
  • IAWTTW : notd665
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    There is always Big Brother this summer! : Patch-e
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      I can't believe you watch that. : ThomW
      • I can't believe I watch that. : Edges
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    You're supposed to be using a DVR and Hulu you weirdo. I haven't felt tied to a tv schedule in years. : derelict515
    • I'm not tied to a schedule, but man does that Now Playing list look daunting after a few days of neglect. : Deathlove
    • Believe me - I've owned a DVR for nine years now. I remember how bad it was without one, but even with I... : ThomW
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  Eureka starts in July.. granted that is little ways off. : Shadowdane
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    Thanks for the announcement as I don't really watch the Sci-Fi Channel anymore. : Totenjaeger
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      scyfy : dantastic
      • SyFy and they still haven't called themselves that yet OFFICIALLY (at least on the Network proper). : Xevo
  • yessss : askedrelic
  • Fucking YAY! Can't wait. : Stoned Gargoyle
• Yeah but Wipeout is now on so it's all OK. : exigence7
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  Rescue Me is going to be on all summer pretty much...and True Blood is starting it's second season soon. ... : wretchedradio
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    dude Rescue Me has been kicking ass this season. Soo good. I thought Warehouse 13 was only going to... : grabbie
    • Rescue Me has been so good.....Sheila deserves her own series at this point. And yeah, Warehouse 13 g... : wretchedradio
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  someone praised "lie to me" and i watched two episodes so far that were very decent. : Hoax
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    It might get better next season when Shawn Ryan is a showrunner. Unless he does a The Unit... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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      Did Ryan have anything to do with Lie to Me this past season? : wretchedradio
      • Not a thing. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • It's like House except the guy is looking for lies instead of diseases. Even the music is the same. Liste... : persuxe
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  Entourage will be back july 12th! woohoo! More homoerotic male friendship! Yay! : melt_core
  • That show is 30 minutes of forced, awkward cameos. : heartsauce
• survivor's finale was last night. JT! JT! JT! : whereiwannab
• I saved fringe episodes 10 on to watch over the summer : WhatIsThisFor
• I just caught up on Heroes over the weekend, so now I'm really looking forward to two of my favorite show... : Deathlove
• I have turned to books and comics to cope with this : spiderfill
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  true blood season 2 is back mid to late june i believe : dantastic
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    I thought they ditched the show after the first season. What a weird, but interesting show. : Matt Burris
    • they renewed it before it even finished airing the first season : dantastic
  • At first I really liked the show but the story seemed to get slower and slower as the season progressed. ... : losimagic
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  maybe you can get to that backlog of games everyone has been complaining about : not work safe
  • I haven't complained about his backlog of games. : Endymion_
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  Breaking Bad? : Vanitas
  • WORD. Last night was fantastic. : trOmblyj
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  Is Sons of Anarchy coming back? : NFXFSX
  • Yes, probably September. : Deathlove
  • Henry Rollins will be on it this season too. : pimpium
• 2 hour season finale of 24 : -=kodiak=-
• Supernatural ended its season as well :( Also the Mentalist is this week, right? And Bones is done for... : c0bra
• When does the next season of Dexter start? (season 4, I think it will be) : CRasterImage
• it's always sunny in philly cant come back on soon enough :( : chodog
• so burn notice can come back? =) : rmjackson

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  FUCKING AWESOME : feek
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    FEEKING AWESOME : CrustaR
    • CRUSTING RSOME! : Lunatic Angelic
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  Now why would you ruin this kids dirtbox action? : hashd
  • I think his dirtbox action was already ruined. : Arcanum
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  People say Facebook is better than Myspace. But every story about it and how people use it, always makes ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    people say facebook is better than myspace because it's technically better (as in, the site is written be... : electroly
    • It's also better from aesthetic and usability standpoints as well. : Arcanum
    • It's like they are some sort of network to socialize with! : pancake humper
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    You can't make Facebook look like a Geoshitties page with animated backgrounds and shitty fonts, or put a... : Arcanum
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      I would try to do that if I did have an account. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        you would fail but you can keep ragging on the social networking sites! : FrayLo
        • you mad? : Godhatesfatpeople
  • At least facebook doesn't make my eyes bleed looking at it. : cerealSAM2
  • no it's not even remotely close to that cesspool : FrayLo
  • People are people. And people are on both services. People. : PlanetPerfecto
  • That's because people don't talk about their mundane regular usage of it. : OverloadUT
  • It's still better but it was a lot better when it was college students only. : Sailor of Fortune
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  I would hate to be that kid. : hamachi
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    he has no idea she gets CC'd on all his facebook entries either. Poor kid. : FormerHPB
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      Now that is just wrong. I'd find a way to let him know. : InfoBiter
      • Send him a facebook message to tell him!!! : jenisthebest
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        Why is this wrong? He's her child and not an adult. Are parents not suppose to watch their children? : exigence7
        • It's not healthy for either the parent or the child to have the parent always watching over the child's f... : Arcanum
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          Apparently we are not supposed to watch or guide them but get blamed for it if they fuck up anyways. I... : themelon
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            this is a fine line. it is a line between responsible parenting and invasion of privacy. here is how i ha... : m0rfus
            • I'm hoping I can be like this with my kid : hamachi
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              I really like this approach, especially the 4th point re: social networks. What better way to hammer hom... : riptyde
              • Also, I'd rather know, in the general sense, that my kids are surfing for porn, than actually see what po... : riptyde
            • iawtp : InfoBiter
        • I think the "wrong" part is the lack of transparency. I think it'd be far more constructive to say "here : kungfusquirrel
        • Not to this degree. TBH I never even understood the kind of parents who freak out about their kids get... : Wikidd
        • The problem isn't that she is watching his actions, that is commendable and something more parents should... : InfoBiter
    • How old is the kid? : HojuSimpson
    • that's fucked up. how does that even happen? : feek
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    What, you don't like anal? : InfoBiter
    • I just would hate to be him when his mom confronts him over his friend. the level of awkward would be in... : hamachi
• pics+divx : mancide
• My name is Mace and I approve!!! (tm) : mace
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  wait her "facebook" name is buttslut (like a fake last name), or is that her real last name? : FrayLo
  • It's actually Büttslüt, she's German : wasylm
• hahahaha : timaste
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  She lies, there is no BUTTSLUT on FB. : Fred Garvin
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    I found 3: Jackieisa Buttslut in Omaha, NE ButtSlut MCVajj and ButtSlut McHorny : jenisthebest
    • ButtSlut McHorny wins the name contest there. : Xanthos
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      busted : Phil
      • * B U T T S L U T ' D * : action wombmate
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      Buttsluts walk up to this? : Omaha
      • HAHAHAh : royalally
      • backwards : riptyde
• oh, internet. what won't you say? : c0bra
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  That kid should definitely go out with her IMO : MagicWishMonkey
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    why? ohhhhhhhhh. : xxiv
    • it would probably turn out to be the greatest and most fulfilling relationship of his young life. : MagicWishMonkey
• hahaha awesome : GoodBoy
• Big Mother is watching. : IHATEDUST
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  I didn't even realize you could auto-forward stuff in facebook. Need to tell my family about this. muha... : Scotty22
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    hmm...I can't find this setting anywhere. : Scotty22
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      Maybe it's on the email side, the parent is just getting the facebook notifications autoforwarded via ema... : FrayLo
      • Yeah, it's gotta be external to facebook. What's really interesting is the law enforcement accounts on t... : Scotty22
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        I'm not sure how she set it up, but she's constantly reading all the posts he gets. I've been LOL'ing at... : FormerHPB
        • Totally. You need to emphasise how good it is that he's got a girl that he likes and is willing to put ou : Wikidd
• oh god i'm dyin here gotta breathe : halophoenix
• Sounds like someone took the "it doesn't count if it's in your pooper" argument to its extreme... : Schnapple
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  she should be happy - no unwanted pregnancies in her son's future : EvilDolemite
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    Anal is gateway sex : uglysad
    • lololol : MrBig0
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  She should look on the bright side: at least her son isn't the buttslut. : obiquatro
  • yet : dirge23
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    lol! This is a good point and I'm DEFINITELY pointing this out to her tomorrow. : FormerHPB
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      hahaha this will be good : Downforce
      • It's also good for her economically. Cheaper to supply her son with lube than with condoms. : riptyde
    • Can you record her reaction? That would be gold. : Maddog_Delphi97
• what she should really be worried about... http://imsobadatsex.com/view/story/id/266 : ricomr

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• but it's a dry cold : prime8
• don't forget it's also way warmer in sunlight :) : Downforce
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  You are missing the point of the movie: Baysplosions!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRS90V8BQGo : uglysad
  • even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHLgeNqjrYw : uglysad
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    yeah the explosions were good.. but damnit, is it so wrong to ask that my brainless action movies at leas... : erotic sock
    • i am still waiting for one of them to eat an energon cube : CoRDS
• How dare you use logic in a Michael Bay film! : manlyman
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  while space is cold, it's not like it's actively-wind-blowing-on-your-face cold. Assuming the 'bot is ... : Clay
  • they also showed starscream destroying the mars lander. http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tempera... : erotic sock
• my bad :( : Dave-A
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  They were int he ships that crashed on earth. : stgdz
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    maybe in the original stories... but in bay's transformers the autobots are clearly seen landing without ... : erotic sock
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      um optimus was clearly seen getting out of the thing that crashlanded on earth : stgdz
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        what? i don't remember that IMDB says: # Originally, the Ark and the Nemesis, the respective spaceship : erotic sock
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          yeah, the asteroids are the ships. When you see optimus primes ship you see some dials, gizmos and lig... : stgdz
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            but megatron was clearly flying through space, without a spaceship. also fuck that movie, it's banned ... : mo13
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              I would love to hear your other "banned for life" movies. : DM7
              • it's just that, I have a stupidly childhood connection to transformers that I can't let go of - I get shi... : mo13
            • Was that in the pre-quel comic, because that wasn't shown in the movie. All we got in the movie was mega... : stgdz
• how about the part where there are huge robots fighting and people are like, oh. : mindshot
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  ice gets all up in their grills and prevents things from working : RikiTiki2
  • this is probably the most plausible explanation lol, when theyre in ship mode, they can withstand space ... : Chandler55
• Didn't they dump them in the ocean for the cold and high pressure? : DarkWolf5
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  They didn't freeze in space because NERRR ZZEEEEEEEEEEE BLAAAAARGH MEEP MEEP HONK BLOOFPPSAKKF]O : Snuffles-
  • bahwahgrahnahweepninnybon? : CoRDS
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  What locks Transformers into the science-fiction genre isn't giant talking robots, it's that some fucking... : HojuSimpson
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    it's true. that was far more unbelievable. :( : erotic sock
    • Suspension of disbelief can only go so far! : HojuSimpson
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    You forget that Brian Austin Greene bagged that fine piece of ass. : chrisschutz
    • Which proves that Megan Fox isn't real. She's just CGI and other advanced forms of special FX : HojuSimpson
• In space, no one can hear you freeze : anhero
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  Electronic machines would actually function better in space. Functioning in ice is another story. : CRasterImage
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    your mother would function better in space. : erotic sock
    • after her eyeballs pop out of the socket? giggidy! : Korban
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    yeah i have no problem believing that a active robot with a power source which can generate it's own heat... : Clay
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      They wouldn't even need heat. Electric circuits run better in the cold. They just don't run well in ... : CRasterImage
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        but then one of the autobots gets out of a pool! it just keeps coming! : erotic sock
        • You're thinking too hard. : Waverider
• They don't function in space. Where did you hear that? They traveled through space. That's completely ... : Jobos
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  hey, I found another plot hole: GIANT GODDAMNED ALIEN ROBOTS : Magus
  • that speak english : CRasterImage

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• so is this your new career? maybe you should take this skill to the Four Seasons : RikiTiki2
• so am i pretty edgy for mixing bisquick pancakes with quaker instant-grits? sometimes it gets out of han... : kpxkrnjc
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  if you are cooking in a restaurant, i agree. if you are cooking at home, i say you try new things. i'm pr... : dahanese
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    Yeah, trying new things is fun! I don't see why I'd limit myself to one type of cooking, especially since... : brickmatt
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      you are dead to me mister brick : dahanese
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        Aww, don't say that Ms. Nese. =( I'll def be able to play later in the week, and maybe even sooner. Stuf... : brickmatt
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          YOU FAVOR YOUR WIFE OVER ME I SEE HOW IT IS WE ARE DONE MISTER MATT DONE YOU HAVE BROKEN MY HEART FOR THE... : dahanese
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            OUR LOVE IS FORBIDDEN AND CAN NEVER BE. EMBRACE YOUR HAIR HELMETED ONE, AND BE AT PEACE. Whatcha makin... : brickmatt
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              brickmatt, I play with my penne a lot! : Bean
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                And I prefer to serve my penne with a nice creamy white sauce! http://www.sadtrombone.com/ : Bean
                • yeah, you like to treat your penne rough, it seems : Postal
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              I LOVE HIM MATT I REALLY DO BUT YOU ARE LIKE HAVING THAT BROWNIE SUNDAE RIGHT AFTER YOU'VE GONE ON A LONG... : dahanese
              • AND MUCH LIKE THAT SUNDAE, I'LL GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR ASS AND CHANGE IT FOREVER. Sounds good! When's a g... : brickmatt
  • agreed! It's a lot more fun to cook if you try new and interesting things. : zerog83
  • I agree with this, trying new things is fun, and really, you'll probably never screw it up to the point o... : boarder2
• Keep it simple stupid. : ADSliv
• Gordon Ramsay has made me crave making a Beef Wellington. : .sticks.
• http://welcometoillinois.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/20080731_simple-jack.jpg : hankyJR
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  I disagree. You cannot improve unless you attempt to push boundaries. You just have to accept that you're... : Bean
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    Exactly. Being good at keeping it simple is merely a very solid foundation for all good cooking, but shit... : randomposter
    • Also, simple is a deceptive term here. Simple things can be incredibly difficult, as is learning when "si... : Bean
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    I think the failure you're referencing is not one of trying new things, but rather attempting to try new : Bean
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      thank you Mr. big words guy! but yeah. the tough part is actually learning the why and what that make... : hamachi
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        So you gonna call or what? : Bean
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          yup. been busy with baby related stuff. interviewing nanny's, dealing with in-laws, etc.. I figure you ... : hamachi
          • NP. You can hit me up any time, especially nowadays, and I'll almost always answer. I can't really answer... : Bean
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  Obligatory self-made beef wellington pics http://www.forgoodnotevil.com/photos/beef_wellington/ : action roommate
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    The beef wellington looks really good (although I wouldn't eat it because I don't like pâté). The stuf... : bcyde
    • Looks like a mushroom risotto and it looks good as fuck. : skankcore
  • What's the risotto with that? : randomposter
  • Better plating skills DONKEY!I kid I kid : hashd
  • so dinner at your place during qcon? : mikecyb
• Eh I think both kinds of cooking have their place at home. I have an excellent Alice Waters cookbook t... : Ovate
• oh man definitely. simple is good. easier to make, easier to clean up. nothing like spending a lot of tim... : yacoub35
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  This is something some really really talented Chefs fall into, have you by chance seen the Kitchen Nightm... : Toraz Chryx
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    Is that the one w/the young french chefs that make dishes w/like 25 flavors in them? Beautiful well-prep... : action roommate
    • Yeah, that's the one. : Toraz Chryx
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    Most of the chefs on that show are the opposite of talented. I've forgotten about the Inverness episode,... : pres589
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otwCm1MJOGw : Toraz Chryx
  • I saw it happen on some of the (Japanese) Iron Chef episodes. The reigning champion would, granted, make... : Arcanum
• "When you first start off trying to solve a problem, the first solutions you come up with are very comple : Home Nugget
• I cooked a pizza last week in my oven : gmd
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  thats dumb your dumb : boring gegtik
  • after fucking up foccacia several times in the past this weekend i made the best foccacia ever! : boring gegtik
• TRUE TRUE TRUE, this is why i stick with hamburgers and wont touch cheeseburgers : CoRDS
• hug thy microwave : peter
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  It's much more fun to go balls out. If you mess up, hey, it's only food. : helvetica
  • I have to respectfully disagree with the balls out postulate. That's a situation that will not be repeate : Bean
• Maybe if you want to stay boring. I find experimentation is key. : ieGod

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  imo we're at a weird place in hardware. there's core i7 stuff which isn't 'reasonable' - it's batshit ... : xsoulbrothax
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    We are early into the i7 stuff right? So I could theoretically upgrade the CPU or something in a year? : Clay
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      There's no i7 "Celeron" that I've heard of, so it'd be a costly CPU now to replace with another costly CP... : pres589
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        What's the cap on memory with those things? 6gb seems to be the common #, can we expect 9 or 12 in the fu... : Clay
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          I don't know about the memory for those things (speeds are probably different) but this past weekend I sp... : pres589
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            12GB is actually fairly cheap with an i7.... ish since they have 6 dimm slots, it's just a big stack o... : Toraz Chryx
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              I have 12GB on my current rig. It makes me happy having that much ram, even though I don't think I really... : Modulus
              • i have no regret about my 8 gigs of ram on my quad system with windows 7. all of my apps i use a lot see... : handofthrawn
        • Depends how many sticks of memory you put in them. Some i7 boards can go upto 24gb in 6 slots. : sigpro
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        I think the core i5 is going to be the mainstream CPU; but it's a different socket http://en.wikipedia.o... : Modulus
        • yea, but i7 owners will be able to move up to the next line of 6 core procs down the road and hopefully e... : mwasher
    • there's a i7 6 core cpu coming out next year called gulftown : wvuong
  • I bought a gateway fx6800-01e for like 1200 bucks at fry's : chrisschutz
• Depends on if you want a upgradeable path or not, and what your budget is. : one random winner
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  I'm almost insulted that you didn't ask me this first >:( : Toraz Chryx
  • I am at the office, only have iPhone access. I'll message when I get home! : Clay
• I was in the same spot a month ago. Replaced with a q9400, 4GB on a P45 board with an ATI4890. Great sy... : jimmy_legs
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  I'd seriously suggest an AM2+ Phenom or AM3 Phenom right now. The AM2+ Phenoms are fantastic value for... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • PHenom II* I should have said...the original Phenom was not that good...but Phenom II is fantastic. : Mr. Goodwrench
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    but that kind of power is seriously unnecessary for real-world applications, including games. LIES! LI... : Toraz Chryx
    • Very true. Video transcoding is crazy fast on a core i7. : Modulus
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      Perfect truth you'll find. It depends what h wants this sytem upgrade for. If on a budget then i7 is a... : Mr. Goodwrench
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        Again, if he he doesnt game and needs it for video encoding...you are right...an i7 would be the best cho... : Mr. Goodwrench
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          Sorry, but Core i7 still has significant speed advantages over Core 2 and Phenom II in gaming. It might ... : deject
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            Depends wholly on the game, resolution, and whether Xfire/SLI is used. : one random winner
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              http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Core-i7-Nehalem,2057-24.html obviously everything at the top... : mwasher
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                Toms hasn't had reliable reviews in at least 5 years (some would argue more), and it would be prudent to ... : one random winner
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                  They are out there and show the exact same trends. But I did all that research when I was spec'ing a sys... : mwasher
                  • Yes they are out, no not all of them show the same trends, most of the time on 2560x1600 running a Xfire/... : one random winner
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        future proofing is a pretty important aspect of a computer purchase don't you think (assuming one has the... : mwasher
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          There is no such thing as future proofing with PC components. : Mr. Goodwrench
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            By that I mean your equipment will be top of the line for six months at most. : Mr. Goodwrench
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              huh? that is irrelevant. having something that is more powerful than you need now is future proofing in... : mwasher
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                okay, i agree with you there. But to spend so much cash now on a system that is still essentially brand b... : Mr. Goodwrench
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                  I believe the term "prohibitively expensive" fits here. : Clay
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                    I don't think a bleeding edge system for sub $1000 is "prohibitively expensive" whatsoever. : mwasher
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                      12GB + quad sli is. : Clay
                      • the 12GB part isn't all that prohibitive. but yeah, quad sli is lolpricey : Toraz Chryx
                • I was upgrading from an Athlon 2800+ ... lol. It made no sense to go with a core 2 platform because i... : mwasher
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            But in this case it is kinda future proofing. If GPUs are the bottleneck right now then by going with an ... : Prozium
            • Or he could buy a top of the line GPU and not have a bottleneck? Or even go SLi or XFire if he was that w... : Mr. Goodwrench
            • That's what I'm looking for. With current system I wouldn't see noticable upgrades on the CPU, and signif... : Clay
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      If i7 was a dude I am pretty sure you would suck his dick. : crazywigga
      • luckily for me all microprocessors are female. : Toraz Chryx
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    I'd serious suggest avoiding AMD and buying an i7. : abrasion
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      yeah i've done AMD for the last couple boxes, it's time for something new! : Clay
      • Clay. i7 920 Asus P6T 6 or 12gb of DDR3 1600, no need for anything too fancy any brand name. Sinc... : abrasion
• I'm going to guesstimate prices out of laziness, but I was going to build a system based on a Q9550, keep... : mafu5150
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  have a microcenter nearby? You can get a core i7 920 for $200. http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/20865/I... : Prozium
  • holy shit! : mwasher
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  if this is your gaming rig, you wont be let down spending the cash on an i7. i went from the opt 165@2.5... : smacknca
  • Looks good! : Clay
• If you want reasonable and an upgrade path, get a Phenom II X3 720 or other Phenom II. : Link.
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  there is next-to-no public knowledge about the upgrade life of x58 motherboards, so : Luminair
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    there's also less reason for them to be obsoleted, as the chipset is basically a pci-e switch. : Toraz Chryx
    • while that is true, my view of history is that intel makes things incompatible like clockwork, regardless... : Luminair
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  Damn clay...I actually remember when you were putting that rig together a waaay long time ago and I was s... : norulez
  • /*\ marches on /*\ : Toraz Chryx
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    and once again, you will be. : Clay
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      Just you wait until construction begins on Full Metal CowbellTM : Toraz Chryx
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        speaking of which, a local comp shop I use was building a system last week that ended up 3rd on the curre... : Old_Fart
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          Well, phase change cooling hasn't made the list yet, but we're talking 12GB of DDR3-2000, pair of GTX295'... : Toraz Chryx
          • the system those guys were building were for some type of CAD stuff and apparently their software people ... : Old_Fart
• Clay, I was in your position earlier this fall. Upgraded to an e8400 4gb Asus P5q pro 4870 512mb ... : stgdz
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  check out my current build list: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=8... : slickdoody
  • that, sir, is out of control. : Clay
  • Haha, this is pretty much exactly what I just bought although I shelled out for faster RAM. I need Neweg... : midgetherder
• Too funny - I have an Opteron 165 that I was just thinking of upgrading. : dengar65
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  Ok, this is what Toraz suggests I get https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=116... : Clay
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    Asus, fuck Gigabyte our of principle, they are vermin scum. get the P6T I also much prefer the Antec P... : abrasion
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      ... just what do you have against Gigabyte? the P183 is a fuckton more expensive for no real benefit? ... : Toraz Chryx
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        P183 looks much better. 3.3ghz i7 is a monster, saves him $$$ on an un-necessary third party cooler. Gi... : abrasion
        • the P183 is $100 USD MORE your opinions of what constitutes monsterous are... pretty goddamned low. Y... : Toraz Chryx
    • I actually have the P180, not a huge fan of that line... : Clay
    • Let's discuss the Asus vs. Gigabyte mainboards. : Clay
  • that heatsink doesnt come with a fan, do you not need one for it? : smacknca
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    so Toraz, does the Xigmatek THOR'S HAMMER HDT-S126384 outperform a TRUE ? : Old_Fart
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      I have no experience with the TRUE, so I can't say I've discussed the Domino with Clay on MSN, but he'... : Toraz Chryx
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        he went i7 and he's bitching about a $79 USD cooler? : Old_Fart
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          oh and of the 2 decent reviews of the Domino, it's either similar to a TRUE, or a good chunk cooler. I'd ... : Old_Fart
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            Here's the less complimentary one http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/coolit_dominoalc/4.htm : Old_Fart
            • I've got nothing but nice things to say about the Domino. : Toraz Chryx
        • what I specced up was already a bit more than he wanted to spend. :p : Toraz Chryx
    • I do know this much though, it has a much better name THORS HAMMER OH YEAH : Toraz Chryx

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• Was it Maarten who called it? : abrasion
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  Early reviews are a horrible indicator. Also, it's being directed by a dude named McG - hope for the bes... : action wombmate
  • That's strange, movies like Wall-E and Star Trek spend their first few days at 100% not 17% : abrasion
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    Early reviews are horrible indicator because they are generally more positive due to the selective audien... : TreMetal
    • That I can understand, but you can't expect every movie to follow that trend. Just wait it out a little ... : action wombmate
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    Not so with star trek : gmd
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      I didn't say they were always wrong, I said they were a horrible indicator. : action wombmate
      • I have a bad feeling about this movie : gmd
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    he directed the Charlie's Angels movies, if that gives you any indication : mikecyb
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      the first one was a good popcorn flick with mindless action and some funny parts. the 2nd one was just a... : Korban
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        the first one was terrible tripe and you're fired : mikecyb
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          there was ass shaking. so not pure tripe. : hamachi
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            okay FINE : mikecyb
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              I actually like the first one. it was like skittles. pure sugar coating and highly colorful and perfect... : hamachi
              • it had lucy lui, and Sam Rockwell who is fucking awesome. : Halen
    • Oh it does, that's why I'm not expecting anything amazing. If it happens to be a good movie, then that's... : action wombmate
    • Well, it's not like the material was all that great to begin with. I honestly don't think he's done enoug... : K1Bond007
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    they are not a horrible indicator. early RT values might vary +/- 20% from long term values. not horrib... : Luminair
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      Maybe, but the way people on the Shack hang on to them you'd think they were like the fucking Oracle at D... : action wombmate
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        hahaha you are really vested in this movie eh? : hamachi
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          What makes you think that? I'm talking about these RT posts that always get made about anticipated movie... : action wombmate
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            I disagree that RT (especially early reviews) are a horrible indicator. the early stuff should be for al... : hamachi
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              Rotten Tomatoes is consistently a better way to check than imdb. : abrasion
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                both are useful because they take different but incomplete slices of the population : Luminair
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                  I agree, IMDB full of rabid children clicking "101010!!!!" for a movie they thougth was 'kinda ok' is goo... : abrasion
                  • what about Koyaanisqatsi? http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/koyaanisqatsi_life_out_of_balance/ http://www : MrBig0
        • it's also fun to anti-hate something because it's popular to hate it. or something. : Downforce
      • I'm with you there because professional movie critics are so far from oracles that they aren't even repre... : Luminair
    • So you're saying that Terminator Salvation could end up with a negative three percent? lol : Maddog_Delphi97
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  still the best trailer ever. : mindshot
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    3rd star trek trailer owns that title : gmd
    • ^^^ this man speaks truth : ErneX
    • fuck yes it does glamorous mylar dirigible! : deject
  • i think so too, the part where the guy looks down and sees the hole in his chest and screams gives me chi... : MrBig0
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    not even close. the trailer is good because NIN paired with gritty visuals is good. that is it : Luminair
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      the nin music elevates that trailer so damn high. i guess i imagined the part about them doing the sound... : smacknca
      • yea i hate NIN but that music was perfect for the trailer. : MrBig0
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    if the movie turns out to be shitty then i'm just going to put the trailer on loop for 2 hours and watch ... : erotic sock
    • In many cases I love the trailer more than the movie. They're like awesome mini-movies. : Jobos
• meh : yacoub35
• I can't wait :D now that I know there's a neat element in the movie, it should be fun. : Downforce
• Called it: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19615013#itemanchor_19615013 : PenicillinX57
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  there have been plenty of movies with low percentages that are still lots of fun to see : prime8
  • lies! i must only form opinions based on what i read on the internet! : erotic sock
  • On movies that i really want to see, either from interesting trailers or just the topic, i completely ign... : boredguy
• Ouch. : spazzium
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  Honestly, these low reviews just make my expectations lower and in the end makes the movie more enjoyable... : manlyman
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    Yeah. I actually enjoyed the last Indiana Jones flick by the time I saw it because of this phenomenon. : action wombmate
    • You are mentally deranged. : abrasion
  • Same here. Now I expect a CGI festival for my eyes but nothing for the brain, I can accept that as I oft... : WhatIsThisFor
• A) It won't, at least not to where you want it to go. B) Who's surprised. C) Rewatch 1 and 2, two of th... : brickmatt
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  Jesus, what's with the little comment bubbles with the stupid-ass comments in them? This website is ridi... : Jobos
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    Haha, when I say "this website", clearly I'm talking about Rotten Tomatoes, and not the Shack :-) : Jobos
    • It works either way, really. : stump
• here's a really positive review: WARNING SPOILERS: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940262.html?cate... : MrBig0

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  As cool as built-in outlets may be, I think the pass through is the most practical solution. I'm no AV j... : adpalumbo
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    True, but I can always just pop the keystone plate out of the wall and put in another jack. That's why I... : virus
    • yeah the keystone plates seem like a good plan for that. i am about to tackle the same sort of thing a... : cpt_gloval
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      Is it worth the hassle though? This looks so clean and it's simple, you'll never have to change a thing a... : ieGod
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        those are neat but the other way is a lot cleaner : redfive
        • Yeah I mean that would work, but that's essentially what I have now (just holes in the wall) and I want t... : virus
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        That first picture cracks me up. It looks like a scared face and a happy face barfing cables : HojuSimpson
        • Hah, I hadn't even noticed. : ieGod
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          :D : redfive
          • >D: : c0bra
        • hahaha : khaosman
• I don't see a need to wrap them in anything : kgargs
• I only terminated my audio jacks, the rest I run straight from TV to source. I got a little scared about... : malloc
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  Do you have a dedicated outlet behind the wall mounted tv or are you just running the cable through the w... : ieGod
  • The latter, unfortunately. : virus
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    I did this, it was pretty simple really. Bridged into another outlet. : malloc
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      Got a guide? : virus
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        This might be the "easy" way to do that: http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=14... : virus
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          no, I literally just ran romex from one outlet to the new location and hooked up the wires. None too dif... : malloc
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            Just shut off the breaker and run the cable? Easy - I can do that no problem. : virus
            • I took out this book from my public library. It's total overkill but it has all the info you need about t... : ieGod
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  Check this thread out on AVSForum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=967079 : ieGod
  • Great link. Thank you - I'm pretty much set on what I want now :D : virus
  • That looks pretty clean. : bcyde
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  don't you have a receiver? why not use that as a video switch? why run 8million cables? I have a sin... : hamachi
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    I don't have an HDMI receiver. I don't really need one, but I see what you're saying. : virus
    • it'll make it sooooo much easier to deal with. and then you can get all the latest sound modes and all t... : hamachi
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  I just had a 1" diameter circular hole and all my cabled spewed out of it - except power, which I had an ... : gameindustryplant
  • That's what I have right now, and what I'm going to upgrade. : virus
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  Did you win the lotto, you've got a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket! : not work safe
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    This upgrade should only cost me about $100, and will drastically upgrade the appearance of my home theat... : virus
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      I know, I didn't even read your post. : not work safe
      • Oh. Need some cash? : virus
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  Quick diagram of what I will be doing this weekend: http://virus.shackspace.com/tv.jpg : virus
  • late afternoon bump : virus

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• So many people I know are leaving the business. : Fred Garvin
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  Where did you work before? What made you get out? What are your future plans? I was tempted a few year... : jbury
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    6 months of crunch(6-7 day weeks, 10+ hours a day) plus similar at a previous job, I'm just done with the... : dravalen
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      Ahhh thats awesome then - I've gone through some seriously horrible crunchtime before (when I worked in Q... : jbury
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        QA is one of the worst places to be in the industry. you get almost no respect, shitty pay, long hours a... : mikecyb
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          Yeah, I don't know why people think QA is a great place to get started. It's not. It's only a good place ... : mittense
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            Totally depends on how QA is treated at the company. If it's an afterthought and you're a "monkey" as mik... : MoreVespeneGas
            • we treat our QA department really well, they have a pretty big say in our games, designers very often go ... : mikecyb
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            my respect for qa is pretty high since i know i would probably shoot myself if i had to do their job. : synapse19
            • Yeah, I don't mean to say that I don't respect QA people, I do; that job would drive me insane. : mittense
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          I did QA for 5 years and it was pretty damn rough, I know it sounds dumb but I really felt I prematurely : jbury
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            how did you make that transition into the animation department? that's quite the leap, usually i see qa p... : synapse19
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              I basically started my QA job at 9am and finished at 9pm, I'd then stay and animate on my computer until ... : jbury
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                awesome :) yea i've seen a few other people sort of do the same thing, but it was the render wranglers in... : synapse19
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                  (im also an animator btw) : synapse19
                  • Ohhh awesome - where do you work? :) (can pm me if you don't want to mention it here) But yeah I ag... : jbury
        • I hate the way people treat QA, it's a fucking travesty in the industry. They are treated worse than audi... : Fred Garvin
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          Yeah, when I tested at Maxis and then EA it was quickly apparent that everyone there had full intentions ... : not work safe
          • I think at a big testing house like EA does it's next to impossible to get noticed. starting at a smalle... : mikecyb
    • People tend to romanticize the actual task of getting games made. : Lightzout
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      I always thought crunch is like...a month? Crunch mode for 6 months sounds a little excessive. : PointlesS76
      • Hahahaha, you have obviously never worked in games. A month of crunch is a cakewalk. : Fred Garvin
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        Crunch for most companies is two-four weeks for a milestone or so. What dravalen is talking about is fuck... : mittense
        • Yeah, I've got no issues with a bit of a push near the end of a deadline but what I've seen in the game i... : dravalen
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          Most companies? I don't know anyone that at one time hasn't done multi-month crunch. : Fred Garvin
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            Really? I do. I think I had a crunch of about a month (month and a half at most) here. Usually two week p... : mittense
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              Come back to me when you've had experience with a few different companies over a decade. : Fred Garvin
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                Always a pleasure, Fred. And I was citing friends I have that are far older and more experienced than... : mittense
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                  Oh come on man, you can't sit there and say extended crunch is an exception. If you think it is, then you... : Fred Garvin
                  • Captain Crunch disagrees : ateam311
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                    Did it ever cross your mind that *you* are in the minority? I've worked at a range of jobs over 10 years... : rt702
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                      Have you worked in the games industry? If not, then get back to me after you do. We could do a poll here ... : Fred Garvin
                      • I'm gonna have to side with Fred, I haven't been in the industry that long but I've got friends at a lot ... : icking fudiot
                    • the whole point of this is how gamedev places inordinate requirements on people compared to other program... : derelict515
          • mittense has worked for most companies. trust him, he knows this shit inside out : dantastic
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        you haven't lived until 9-10! : kungfusquirrel
        • Note to self: "I don't want to live." : PointlesS76
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        I've had two games where we crunched for damn near a year. Most of the team were either laid off or left... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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          What the hell is the incentive? : ThomW
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            Thats a good question. Another thing I wonder about is when game devs just work all the time and stop pl... : Lightzout
            • Yup, that's a big problem. : mittense
            • Devs play a lot fewer games than most people would guess. : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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      This is the reason I gave up on wanting to go into the industry and just got a simple web dev. job instea... : DOOManiac
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        That's a silly reason. There are plenty of horror stories within the game industry, but not every company... : mittense
        • True, not every company is like that. But enough of them are. : RomSteady
        • I dunno the video game industry is pretty notorious as far as this kind of thing goes. It's not every de... : mikecyb
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          I've never heard of one that doesn't do that. : DOOManiac
          • Horror stories are always more common than "pretty normal hours" stories. Always. : mittense
          • Yup, even well know companies (not naming names) that are held up as shining examples of employee treatme... : Fred Garvin
          • Honestly I think most that have been around for a few years don't, at least not for devs, because it's no... : uncleanmonkey
      • There are plenty some companies that don't crunch much (or at all). : Agrona
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      how the hell are you even productive after a couple of weeks days of that? my mind would be mush : epit
      • Yeah, I've was watching my work output just tank over the last few months. : dravalen
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      Question: when finalized code is ready to publish, is there a department within a game development house ... : Xin Jing Client 1a
      • Code freeze is the absolute last step. Content freeze is before that. : Fred Garvin
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        most developers have a build engineer if that's what you mean. code and content freeze are mostly done f... : mikecyb
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          I'm just wondering how "Hot Coffee" content or other examples of 'inappropriate' material makes in out th... : Xin Jing Client 1a
          • For some ways it gets on... http://www.romsteady.net/blog/2005/07/my-take-on-hot-coffee.html : RomSteady
          • well hot coffee wasn't 'slipped' onto anything, that was intended to be part of the game but was removed ... : mikecyb
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      Seriously...either tell us what you do, and where you did it, or GTFO. : JohnnyRey
      • there's a good a reason he's going to ignore you : synapse19
      • That's a pretty silly thing to say; I'd actually say he's smart for not saying. : mittense
      • why do you care so much? : dahanese
      • Per sharkII's list: Airtight Games Though that list is out of date for a couple of people so may be wr... : Zhaneel
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      It's so strange looking on at the games industry. I'm in a non-game programming job, and crunch is comple... : rock elf
      • One the major problem is not only is it a creative industry, but they promote from within so you have peo... : Fred Garvin
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        the sales margins are different, for one. if you work on regular software you will obviously improve the... : mikecyb
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          Good point. When our main customer requests another feature, we tell him how far back it will push the de... : rock elf
          • The other issue with scheduling games aside from those already mentioned (and Fred is spot on about misma... : icking fudiot
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  I've heard awful things from people at your company. :( : mittense
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    where did he work? : tharger
    • 3D Realms? : Nitrium
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      Blizzard. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        as a GM...? lol : Downforce
        • burn. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Welcome to the properly compensated side. : RomSteady
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    No shit. I'm pretty shocked at how much pay disparity there is and that's *before* the crazy hours. : dravalen
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      During my last crunch at Microsoft Game Studios, my salary was prorated down to minimum wage. : RomSteady
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        lol, why do/did you guys put up with that shit? : Modulus
        • Passion for what you are doing gets you through it, but the aftermath is murder. Hence, why I called i : RomSteady
    • We've been interviewing for QA managers where I work. The pay scale assumptions for people coming from t... : bcyde
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  You are lucky. As an artist, we don't really get that luxury, much less pay bonus for leaving the indust... : deathofrats
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    film and tv! it's much more organized haha : synapse19
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      (although you still get crunch in film, but it's not as much as it seems to be in games overall) : synapse19
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        Don't you guys get OT though? : dravalen
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          yes i used to :( (im in games now) : synapse19
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            so why'd you get into games if tv and film was better? : deathofrats
            • oh i don't hate games, i'm actually enjoying my time in it right now. every job comes with it's harder mo... : synapse19
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  it's a shame more companies can't be run like this: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?st... : synapse19
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    You mean under the umbrella of low-hyped titles that nonetheless have reasonably guaranteed sales? It's ... : adpalumbo
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      Punch-Out!! as a low-hyped title? It's a game for one of the most well-known publishers/developers in the... : mittense
      • Punch-Out!! has guaranteed sales because of the publisher and brand, but isn't exactly an E3 centerpiece ... : adpalumbo
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  Video games really are an awesome medium with a lot of potential for future growth. Which is why it's a g... : FlatlineDixay
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    sometimes the problem lies with too much creativity, especially when it comes late... : synapse19
    • That's something of a management issue, combined with the way that software products are notoriously diff... : FlatlineDixay
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      There's a difference between opting to stay late to do something exciting and being forced to work 80+ ho... : Agrona
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        what i meant is that sometimes too much creativity coming late is what causes some of those long work wee... : synapse19
        • yeah a designer or someone adding something into a game very late in the development (or late in the mile... : mikecyb
  • Most don't give a shit because they figure for every bum in a seat there are 10 more waiting. Very few ac... : Fred Garvin
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  What kind of work did you do? I've been trying to get into the industry for a while. :| : CrustaR
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    As what? : mittense
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      cinematic designer : CrustaR
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        If you want to get into the industry then having that specific a goal position with no industry experienc... : mittense
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          Precisely. :\ : CrustaR
          • You need to be flexible with your position goals when you're trying to break into the industry; I think t... : mittense
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        what do you mean by cinematic designer? a director, script writer, animator or something else? : synapse19
        • Something like this: https://jobs.ea.com/jobs/jobposting.aspx?refresh=1&postid=a0z50000000Huw7 : CrustaR
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    Programming, I'd really reconsider it if you have *any* other commitments(wife/gf, etc). It's great if yo... : dravalen
    • Well, it's not like working on Enterprise Widget 3.5 through 17.2 is a healthy or satisfying career eithe... : adpalumbo
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  Thats a shame to hear, keep an eye out, there are plenty of companies that don't treat their employees li... : nodebug
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    No kidding. It's sad that even after EA Spouse conditions at most companies haven't changed. : Fred Garvin
    • Honestly, I think many of them took EA Spouse as carte blanche, since the public eye was pretty much sole... : xsoulbrothax
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  Not all game jobs are horrible. Also, in some cases, I think people make the problem themselves, since th... : lplasmatron
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    you only say that because you're busy bathing in Fallout 3 cash >:( : mikecyb
    • And whores. Lots of whores. And cocaine. Lots of cocaine. : lplasmatron

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  I remember when [fry] posted this years ago. I can make the slut do things many different ways now. : sigpro
  • at least it's been expanded a bit. : Fyunch Click
• guess my gay skills dont work on the bitches... as in going in for the kill right away. lol : -=kodiak=-
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  Dude - I don't think she's wearing a bra! : mafu5150
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    Plus, when you hover over her nips, the only option is to complement her outfit. This is not very lifeli... : mafu5150
    • sounds like this is on the one I'm thinking of : Omaha
    • Ohhhh. Nevermind. : mafu5150
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      nah you can do more than that to them if you get her drunk but not passed out drunk and naked in the hot ... : sigpro
      • I just got to that point and gave up. It was taking entirely too long :) : mafu5150
• is this the one where she spills sauce on her top and you tell her to change it then you can walk in on h... : Omaha
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  I'm too drunk to go on tonight. THE END SHE FAILED THE TEST : Ellissd
  • You mean you didn't get a blow job from her in the car? : sigpro
• http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=10eipnc_lwoujga3oxlukg06c5y7.jpg the back button is your friend.. : niceguynick
• all i had to do was compliment her tits and she made out with me. : jenisthebest
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  i'm totally getting two girls naked in the pool : GloriousCow
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    She gets pissed when you end up naked in the bed with her friend. : sigpro
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      How'd you get her friend around? : menar003
      • Easiest way, once past the introduction, Kitchen drink wine drink wine again click the fridge to ge... : sigpro
• Took that bitch dancing and some dude touched her tits and then WE got thrown out of the club. Total bumm... : hirosushima
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  The game is kind of broken. Just freezes in random spots. I click and nothing happens. : Ellissd
  • Is that what happens on real dates also? : hashd
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  Fuck this is a random game. Why can't I just get her drunk like in real life? : uncleanmonkey
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    but you can! : sigpro
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      How the fuck do I even get past the introduction? It seems like I instanly end up with either "grab boobs... : uncleanmonkey
      • yeah i had that problem til i opened it in IE. now i just had sex with her twice but it's frozen and the... : jenisthebest
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        you are doing it wrong. Click her cheek the book, then her cheek again. : sigpro
        • If this thread is still around at like 5pm I will post some write ups of how to fuck her like 4 different... : sigpro
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          Clicking the cheek isn't an option for me... : uncleanmonkey
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            Should be able to the the upper part of her right cheek (your left when looking at her) : sigpro
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              Nope. I think it's just broken. : uncleanmonkey
              • No idea then. Works for me just fine. There is also a downloadable version that you can get and just open... : sigpro
      • Kiss her cheek! : stump
  • yea i was annoyed when i couldnt put some roofies into her wine. : -=kodiak=-
• meh i think firefox just called me a fgt because my browser crashed after getting her to strip and fondli... : Hoax
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  This game is stupid. I complemented her looks, and then told her a joke. Next, my only two options wer... : DOOManiac
  • Sounds too realistic to be fun. : pres589
  • there's a spot you can kiss on her cheek : GloriousCow
  • Yeah looks like it's broken. I tried it in IE and got a bit further but it still got stuck (script error)... : uncleanmonkey
• lol this is easy : adev
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  Hey watch your hands! We just meet and you are already trying to cop a feel? On a scale of 1 to 10, you ... : mace
  • I knew you'd get a 1 lol : niceguynick
• man this is the kind of shit I played when I was a horny 14 year old wtf : sparkly
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  haha, i keep glitching the damn game out. : chilln
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    me too, sucks. : cjcharv
    • Are you hitting back? If you are you need to hit back twice sometimes. Other times it gets all fucked up ... : sigpro
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  LOL at animated sex scene in bed! : adev
  • LOL in general : breadsticks
• fuck i got her all wet at the Log Ride and now clicking won't do anything :( : pukerat
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  Wtf it just keeps freezing, then not showing me a picture. I refresh and sometimes it works, other times ... : avatar_58
  • That is the goal of the game. : sigpro
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    Yea so stupid. I lost count on how many times I had to start over because of that : humbleone
    • the back button works mostly : niceguynick
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    The only way to win is not to play. : jason bergman
    • This is giving me memories of Leisure Suit Larry. Except at least that game had saves. : avatar_58
• she got mad that i just wanted to sit quietly and eat my steak : fletch_
• !@#$!%^ Comic Sans : yAak
• Man, this game is scary and way too uncanny valley for me. : Link.
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  The only way to win the game, is not to play at all. : abrasion
  • I won. : TreMetal