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Valve Talks Team Fortress 2 Sniper Unlockable

by Nick Breckon, May 05, 2009 5:19pm PDT

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A new post on the official Team Fortress 2 blog has shed some light on Valve's upcoming Sniper update.

"In an effort to reduce some of the aggravation that other players feel towards the Sniper, we chose the goal of designing an unlockable that encouraged the Sniper to get a little closer to his target," writes Valve's Robin Walker.

"We want him to give up some of his primary advantage in return for something else, so that enemies he kills feel like they were engaged with them, and feel like they could have survived if they'd just managed to fight a little better," he teased.

No news on when the update will go live, though it's expected to launch sometime after the head-slot item update.

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By: penguinftw x Show Full Post

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So they're making TF2 even more casual friendly by gimping the only skill based class in the game. Grand.

May 05, 2009 5:40pm PDT

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So they're making TF2 even more casual friendly by gimping the only skill based class in the game. Grand. : penguinftw
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Why dont they just remove snipers completely. Probably one of the most frustrating classes to play against when they are good, and they are bloody useless when they arent that good as you would do better to have the 3 snipers as classes that are actually helping with objectives.

Not that valve know what the hell they are doing anyway.

May 06, 2009 12:43am PDT

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Why dont they just remove snipers completely. Probably one of the most frustrating classes to play agains... : Beady
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  No, they should listen to some random guy on the internetz. Silly valve. : master_disaster_17
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    Who pays their salaries again? Oh yeah, the gamers do by buying their games... : Freon
    - That still doesn't mean they dictate how and what they should make. : Godhatesfatpeople
    - That doesn't make one suggestion right or us as shareholders. : FuryVII
  - they should also remove the AWP from CS, amirite? while they're at it, get rid of those damn ubers, and ... : tunis5000
- snipers are the only class that generates expert medics. : Downforce

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By: M4DM9X x Show Full Post

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Am I the only one actually excited about this ?

"[...] so that enemies he kills feel like they were engaged with them, and feel like they could have survived if they'd just managed to fight a little better"

THIS
I can't wait to play sniper and get people even more pissed because they know they could've done something but they just suck

May 06, 2009 11:00pm PDT

Am I the only one actually excited about this ? "[...] so that enemies he kills feel like they were en... : M4DM9X

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By: Dr_Cube x Show Full Post

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There's no better class with which to heckle another player. Everyone's afraid of the headshot.

May 05, 2009 5:32pm PDT

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There's no better class with which to heckle another player. Everyone's afraid of the headshot. : Dr_Cube
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  The spy fears only fire! : SockMonkeh
  - i lol'd : g000n
  - ...and narrow hallways. : Stucky_101

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I think the Sniper's new gun should be this.
http://www.premiermoviereviews.com/noCountryforOldMen_chigurh_gun.jpg

The pneumatic rifle as seen in No Country for Old Men, usually used in slaughter houses to knock out or kill cattle that are waiting to be gutted. It would be an interesting alternative for the Sniper and would even fit TF2's industrial desert theme.

May 05, 2009 7:14pm PDT

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I think the Sniper's new gun should be this. http://www.premiermoviereviews.com/noCountryforOldMen_chigu... : Stucky_101
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  get help dude : Cihte
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  that photo isn't a pneumatic rifle, it's a silenced shotgun : dopefish
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    You should probably do some research before you post... "Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) strangles a she... : Stucky_101
    - You should probably do some looking at the picture before you post. : _jon
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    Oh sorry, you're right. The photo I posted was a shotgun, but you know what gun I'm talking about so what... : Stucky_101
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      Yeah, I was about to say that the cattle gun is the tank he walked around with. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      I'm confused, I thought there was a rifle sized cattle gun he had, which he pretty much just attached to ... : Stucky_101
      
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      The cattle gun only shot out a piston 5-6 inches long and then it retracted back in. : loboVT
      
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      Sounds like a Sniper to me! : Wisp!
      
      well the call me the sniper cuz i gotta be accurate with my 3 inches. : papaskot

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By: yacoub35 x Show Full Post

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im so glad i stopped playing after the scout update came out that ruined the gameplay with unlockables that interfere with another player's movement control/ability, which is a basic no-no that Valve with all its supposed psychology should have realized because now i dont have to care that they're ruining the sniper class too!

May 06, 2009 8:41am PDT

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im so glad i stopped playing after the scout update came out that ruined the gameplay with unlockables th : yacoub35
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- im so glad i stopped playing after release with basic weapons like any explosive and the sentry gun that ... : erikman619
- You post this in almost every TF2 thread. : Godhatesfatpeople

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By: eonix x Show Full Post

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Just posting because 75% of the comments brought the lol's - acting as though you MUST use the new unlocks and change how you play/enjoy the game.

Guh, gamers.

May 06, 2009 8:55am PDT

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Just posting because 75% of the comments brought the lol's - acting as though you MUST use the new unlock... : eonix
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  Thank you for saying this. Gamers are so friggin' whiny. : erikman619
  - Don't get me wrong, I'm a gamer as well. Just stating the obvious :) /end whine.exe : eonix

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Exploding koala nade! Exploding koala nade!

May 05, 2009 6:42pm PDT

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Exploding koala nade! Exploding koala nade! : StukaFox
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  Wacky waiving inflatable arm flailing tube man! Wacky waiving inflatable arm flailing tube man! : Stucky_101
  - I lol'd : erikman619

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Fix latency issues with getting sniped after ducking behind cover and I wouldn't care what they do with the class.

I hate both playing AS a and AGAINST a sniper when I know how many shots are latency only.

Fix hit registration please. CS1.3 FTW!

May 06, 2009 6:39am PDT

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Fix latency issues with getting sniped after ducking behind cover and I wouldn't care what they do with t... : WTHInac
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- It isn't a "latency issue," it's an intentional addition to make sniping with double digit pings more via... : erikman619

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This is the first time I'm not happy with what Valve are doing! More close combat for a sniper!?? Really? Why? This is just stupid. That's the whole point of a sniper...to kill from far. The whole point is every class is different. Leave the concepts unchanged!
Oh wait, next they'll say we also want to encourage the scout to do long range kills.

May 05, 2009 8:36pm PDT

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This is the first time I'm not happy with what Valve are doing! More close combat for a sniper!?? Really?... : scary_monster
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- Do you guys not read the updates before posting. The original concept is still intact. Nothing is being c... : Godhatesfatpeople
- My guess is a sniper rifle with less scope zoom, no charge, a faster reload, and it does more damage the ... : JediDwag

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Is this article a joke? Of course he's irritating. He's a freaking SNIPER! That's what snipers do.

This gameis completely sterilized. Valve, do everyone a favor and please hand the game over to another outfit for TF3.

Please. You've lost complete grip of what TF is all about.

May 06, 2009 7:18am PDT

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Is this article a joke? Of course he's irritating. He's a freaking SNIPER! That's what snipers do. Th... : boulder94
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Here's hoping their using my idea of a lower damage semi auto (not bolt action) scoped rifle.

If you add a damage dropoff, it would encourage snipers to fight from corner to corner, popping out to pick off the weak and get slick insta headshots, rather than the conventional camp-across-the-map sniping.

May 05, 2009 6:02pm PDT

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Here's hoping their using my idea of a lower damage semi auto (not bolt action) scoped rifle. If you a... : SFtheWolf
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- That's a good idea actually. : Godhatesfatpeople
- It sounds like this is exactly where they are heading... : g000n
- this seems plausible. increasing mobility and visibility at the expense of super long range and scope nec : Downforce

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Snipers are now able to cast level 3 arcane spells.

May 06, 2009 8:48am PDT

Snipers are now able to cast level 3 arcane spells. : DewFuel

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If this wasn't Valve I'd be worried.
I don't like the sound of it but they haven't let me down before.

May 06, 2009 1:25am PDT

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If this wasn't Valve I'd be worried. I don't like the sound of it but they haven't let me down before. : chazums
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- Exactly. THIS is what everybody that bitches before they know ANYTHING should understand. : Snipergen
- aside from the Scout update and a few stupid tweaks in recent months. : yacoub35

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I want an auto or semi-auto rifle.

Keep the scope but lose the charge.

May 06, 2009 3:58am PDT

I want an auto or semi-auto rifle. Keep the scope but lose the charge. : slackshoe

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bow and arrow and a boomerang... ?

May 05, 2009 5:33pm PDT

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bow and arrow and a boomerang... ? : bloodypalace
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- I second the bow and arrow part! That'd be fucking amazing! : Stucky_101
- No! The boomerang idea! Instant kill and a head rolling if you hit necks when the boomerang returns to yo... : Snipergen
- Explosive tipped arrows! : Sailor of Fortune

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By: sirmuffinman x Show Full Post

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Seems like the only people complaining here are the Snipers.

May 05, 2009 11:12pm PDT

Seems like the only people complaining here are the Snipers. : sirmuffinman

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sniping doesn't have to be long range. sniping really mans to fire from a concealed position (which is typically far away, but not required). you can 'snipe' someone from 30 feet away with a weapon equipped with a sound suppressor, hiding in a bush while wearing a ghillie suit.

May 05, 2009 8:37pm PDT

sniping doesn't have to be long range. sniping really mans to fire from a concealed position (which is ty... : abovedefault

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By: DM7 x Show Full Post

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Then he's not a sniper, he a close combat solider. :~(

May 05, 2009 5:29pm PDT

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Then he's not a sniper, he a close combat solider. :~( : DM7
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  Exactly my thinking and I think it's kind of sad that instead of talking upgrades to the class like they ... : K1Bond007
  - Honestly, I think they may have been trying to do similar things with multiple classes now. The medic-def... : Felraiser

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We want the sniper to...not be a sniper

May 05, 2009 7:55pm PDT

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We want the sniper to...not be a sniper : thief
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- would it have been better if he said ""In an effort to reduce some of the aggravation that other players ... : pyide

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They should give sniper some kind of cardboard cutout he can drop. Maybe of another sniper. Or maybe some camouflage cutout, uses texture of whatever is near it, could stand behind it.

May 05, 2009 7:14pm PDT

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  They're called sprays. : psamathos
  - lol. Not everyone equips sniper spray, not really part of game, can just disable them. : benjaamin
- haha that would be funny : Godhatesfatpeople

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raaaaailllllguuuuuuuun

May 05, 2009 5:55pm PDT

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raaaaailllllguuuuuuuun : RikiTiki2
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  It won't be a railgun :P : Godhatesfatpeople
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    what? allows him to get closer up, but no zoom. does what they just described : RikiTiki2
    - Well I don't think it will be a railgun in what you're seeing. But I can bet it will be an alternative ri... : Godhatesfatpeople

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I'm guessing something along the lines of changing the sniper's charge shot for an increased damage SMG.

Or maybe he trades his SMG for a mug of coffee that increases his machete swing time for a bit :P

May 05, 2009 5:36pm PDT

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- good ideas : Pneum0

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with the way he new updates are going i am sure they will add some more stun knock back effects to really fuck game play up even more. maybe his new melee will be a jar of his own piss that stuns the player in shock so he can get a free head shot.

May 05, 2009 5:32pm PDT

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- http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=11694&game_id=#img132854 : thejay247

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M4 Colt please!

May 05, 2009 5:21pm PDT

M4 Colt please! : razlebol

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