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  The Black Company series. : ArcKnight
  • eot : acheron
  • this, for serious : boring gegtik
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  What's low fantasy? : -efx-
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    Hobbits. : Rehevkor
    • Man, that's high fantasy. : Arceihn
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    Conan, swords and sorcery tales, also (appearently) fantasy without a strong moral compass, i.e., having ... : silent prophet
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      Oh, I thought it was low-brow fiction like the Forgotten Realms fare. : hatelull
      • I used to think so too, but its much weirder distinction than that. Its like fantasy critics tried to tak... : silent prophet
      • Forgotten Realms, etc., books are low-quality High Fantasy : Goncyn
  • Generally, less epic, more gritty. Wikipedia has good articles on both high & low. : cerealSAM2
  • limbo day-dreams : sgtsanity
  • I always considered the distinction to be how much (if any) "magic" there is in the world. Low fantasy =... : acheron
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  Magician: Apprentice : Jinxplayer
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    Have you read any of the latest books? I haven't read anything from Feist in years, but I notice he is s... : breadsticks
    • Yeah, ive read most of his new stuff...most of the books i have read are just from the riftware saga, i k... : Jinxplayer
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  Raymond Feist Riftwar Saga/Series. Start with a book called 'Magician'. It's very addictive. : kainen1
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    oops, what he said above me. :) : kainen1
    • :D Yeah, all of Feist's work is really good. And they are quick and easy reads too. : Jinxplayer
• Does Dusk count? That book was pretty bad ass. : waxthirteen
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  You could do worse than that Avatar Trilogy in the Forgotten Realms series. It's fairly lowbrow, a fuck : hatelull
  • I tried reading some of the Drizz't books (the first ones, I believe). They were ridiculously bad. Maybe ... : shyguy74
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  Malazan : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Mala FUCKING zan : indosauros
  • This and Black Company are my faves. : icking fudiot
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  I consider A Song of Ice and Fire to be low fantasy. : zebosausamite
  • And badass. : daneloire
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  Glen Cook - Black Company. Agreed. The Thieves World shared Universe novels (Robert Asprin/Lynn Abbey e... : AxeMan808
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    I guess Moorcock's stuff is kinda High fantasy to be on this list too, but it's pretty gritty and persona... : AxeMan808
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      Also, I'm liking Cook's new series, Instrumentalities Of The Night - kind of a fantasy reversioning of Th... : AxeMan808
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        Turtledove is in love with doing shit to WW2. Did you read any of the Worldwar series? I only read the ... : Wadmaasi
        • Yeah, those were.....OK. They were *just* OK, though...I stopped at like #4. : AxeMan808
  • Wow, someone else who read the Cenotaph Road books. : cerealSAM2
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  Any Drizzt Do'Urden book. : Edges
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    again, those aren't low fantasy. Their lowbrow, perhaps, but definitely high fantasy :P : Goncyn
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      Their Low Brow : boring gegtik
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        God. I hate myself now. : Goncyn
        • how could you let me do this gegtik : Goncyn
• Charles de Lint, all his books : Goncyn
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  Steven Brust, Taltos series. : cerealSAM2
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    This series is high (OMG floating castles, resurrection, gods and goddesses directly involved in the worl... : LoioshDwaggie
    • Yeah, and you realize that Vlad Taltos kills people for money. Hates everyone he works with or befriends... : cerealSAM2
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  it's kind of sad that I have read every suggestion in this thread! and most aren't low fantasy at all ... : lakren
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    Yeah, most people have no idea what they're talking about. : LoioshDwaggie
    • Since neither of you cared to expand, I went to Wikipedia for some assistance, figured I'd share.. "Th... : icking fudiot
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  I'd offer up Bones of the Dragonship which is almost all classic low-fantasy with two exceptions. : LoioshDwaggie
  • Oh yeah, and Jacqueline Carey's entire Kushiel's series (it's finished after 7 novels I believe). It invo : LoioshDwaggie
• Sorry Lakren, that's about all the low fantasy I have. I don't read that genre much. : LoioshDwaggie
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  Battle Circle by Piers Anthony http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Circle-Piers-Anthony/dp/0380018004 (it'... : r_picmip 5
  • CerealSam the 9mm. : cerealSAM2
  • Too Funny! Sos The Rope! : AxeMan808
• anything by robert e howard : cptstern
• Mercedes Lackey. By The Sword, Oathbound & Oathbreakers. : geedeck
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  Any Fritz Leiber / Michael Moorcock : nrgXs
  • I was going to suggest the Elric of Melnibone series but I haven't read it. : c0bra
• I've always wondered if the Witcher books (translated) were any good. : drhazard
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  Gene Wolfe's The Book of the New Sun series : smax
  • For sure, though I'm still not sure what it was about sometimes. His language is pretty.. dense. But I ... : icking fudiot
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    I was tempted to suggest this, but I still can't decide if it shouldn't count as sci-fi, rather than fant... : Vincent Grayson
    • i've already read it, obviously! : lakren
• Would the Dresden Files be low fantasy? Or just low brow? (they're my guilty pleasure) : zakazi
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  Perdido Street Station by China Mieville : grendel
  • Also his followup The Scar (and I am sure The Iron Council is too I just haven't read it yet) : grendel
• i hate you : spaceless

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• nice : kgargs
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  This guy is brilliant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFyP2yP-FWU&feature=related : stonedonkey
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    how does he know when to come in for that second I'm no Superman?!?!?!?! : Korban
    • the world may never know : Ziz
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  OH MY GOD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ckfho3e4o&feature=related : maulla
  • one of the comments "I bet that dog eats a lot of peanut butter. " hahaha : hobosapien
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77auNQDiPk&feature=channel_page +inf : aeg1x
  • CHRIST : Phil
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    holy shit lol... backscratch and fucking gut-bite by dog. : zebosausamite
    • O_O : ass-street
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    lol @: THE FINAL BOSS OF THE INTERNET comment. : grandmasterlee
    • OH MY GOD gut bite.....I bet that smells nice : grandmasterlee
  • hahahahaha that's so awesome. DOG SUCKLING. : jingletard
  • Look at the wisdom our elder generation can provide, they are a valuable knowledge going untapped! : askedrelic
  • you know all the other videos make me think this is fake because it's hilarious but in this one he swings... : mikecyb
• Wow. Some people should not have webcams. : Ormsbee
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  The dark side of progress : action roommate
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    See you're being an ass here. I hope I have the balls and the mental presence to be that much fun and tha... : dafugg
    • what if he's only 30 : aeg1x
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      wut dafukk : Phil
      • There's an old balding man that runs a lan around here. I used to go there years ago. He says that. Ju... : dafugg
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wdmSL2-Ock&feature=related : DrillBit
• Typical you-tube generation : kgargs
• Phil, you just introduced me to my new hero. : Korban
• Like so many other commetns say, what a frightening old man,but I just can't stop watching. : Entity
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  phil you need to work on your lighting, man : grandmasterlee
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    LET ME DO MY ART : Phil
    • Unless you pump out some more FUUUUUUUU pictures, you're getting shut down. : ArcKnight
  • Haha : ieGod
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  This guy is definitely a shacker. : marblehead
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    WHICH SHACKER IS THIS?!?!~?!?!?!?!? : ArcKnight
    • Its actually Phil. He's just being a shill : retardhumper
• I find him extraordinarily dangerous--how would you know if/when he turns into a zombie? Better to preemp... : Bold
• Heh, he so reminds me of my late grandfather. He always aspired to be an actor, but never found his stag... : liqker
• This is amazing! : mysled
• I think this guy used to live in my basement : sKetchflow
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  Description? : punchdog
  • It is indescribable : zebosausamite
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    A cross between Uncle Fester of the Addams Family and Christopher Lloyd creeping everyone out. : Jeepy McJeeperton
    • this is actually a very good description : bad_fish
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  he reminds me of Chop Top http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW_eKcFfJYg : waxthirteen
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    wtf is TCM2 a comedy? : deathofrats
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      wait..how did Tobe Hopper go from directing Poltergeist to something that looks like a troma film in just... : deathofrats
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        Spielberg covertly directed Poltergeist : dirge23
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          interesting..i just read that on imdb. I can see that. : deathofrats
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            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(film)#Creative_relationship : dirge23
            • That said, TCM2 is a classic 80s horror flick : dirge23
      • Even Denis Hopper couldn't save TCM 2 : theghostofsmdever
• he seems like a nice guy, actually. probably hilarious to hang around with. : industro
• i need to find this guy so we can hang out. : arcane_
• This man is my hero. : notd665
• that's the creepiest thing i've seen in a really long time : skelom
• Phil that is your idol, admit it. : MercFox1
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  Oh shi- http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=2530 : theangrywaffles
  • Whoa. Nice. : magistersmax
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    In before FLORIDA : Phil
    • He's in SC now! : zebosausamite
  • Whoa holy shit nice find hahaha : Begawkiness
  • This explains so much... : MercFox1
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    "Sexual battery" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another : liqker
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      meaning you can't sue your doctor for sexual battery when he's getting a vaginal swap unless he sticks hi... : Joseph
      • vaginal swab* I'd like to swap my vagina, IT HAS SAND IN IT : Joseph
  • This just made his videos even creepier. : hirosushima
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    How did you find this? Did reverse image search save the day again? : FirstPersonCooter
    • People have been posting it on his youtube channel comments. : liqker
    • It was mentioned in a reddit article I stumbled on this morning. Plus, I think its in some of the YouTube... : theangrywaffles
  • goodness that's scary. I wonder what his victim thinks of all the attention he's getting : deathofrats
  • I wonder if he recorded that stuff, too. : nugt
• This guy belongs in a castle high on a hill in the darkness with lightning flashing around it, helping as... : silent77
• This guy is incredible hahahaha : Begawkiness
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEgslCkDm0&feature=channel : acidnynex
• I will never be able to look at that show the same way again. : FirstPersonCooter
• Doc, we better back up. We don't have enough road to get up to 88. : Snuffles-
• What an awesome old dude. He sounds like Steve Buschemi : sikander
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  the comments are a bunch of people saying ijustine phil we need to talk about this ijustine thing of y... : Luminair
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    I should make a video. : Phil
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      lol what will be your soundtrack : Luminair
      • Twin Peaks, of course. : Phil
• I can't watch youtube at work it's blocked. Someone give a review of the videos posted : GoodBoy
• his eyes are upon you =( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEgslCkDm0 : pharoah mike
• I want to look like this guy when I get old. : tomwiththeweather
• Wow, this one is amazing -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLyWQFbTU_c&feature=related : Polysorbate
• lol @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DfsBd3iSk&feature=related : rmjackson

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  still on yalls first pot of coffee? : whistletits
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    theres a small music festival going on in my pants : boring gegtik
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      its very intimate and small : boring gegtik
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        my penis : boring gegtik
        • quite a small victory gegtik : askedrelic
        • Like talking to yourself dontchya? : one random winner
        • cockapalooza. : daneloire
    • two turntables and a microphone? : whistletits
  • we only drink french press and espresso here. : MisterClaw
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  The only one i would consider going to is that one in Chicago in August... forgot the name.. lineup is re... : wtf242
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    lollapolloza : whistletits
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      yeah.. see? this is how you do a good lineup: http://2009.lollapalooza.com/ : wtf242
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        that one would be cool. : whistletits
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          we could hang out with mr sex : wtf242
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            i've been pricing it...swa flight $211, fest ticket $190, hotel $200+ for two nights plus spending cash. ... : whistletits
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              we could couch surf with shackers! : wtf242
              • I'd crash with em if it was cool. they could watch us arm wrestle. : whistletits
              • lets do it dude...fly and get tickets. : whistletits
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        Tool, Rise Against and Coheed and Cambria = RAWK. : ArcKnight
        • come on!!! : Mr.SEX
      • god damn : Patch-e
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    definitely not going to ACL though. Pearl Jam as the headliner? bleh. also most of cool bands play gigs a... : wtf242
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      tell us the real reason why you're not going...not because of one band from 130 others. You hate the outd... : whistletits
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        yeah pretty much : wtf242
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          hey whistletits you want to go to that new swank mexican restaurant with me? it's pretty expensive but I'... : wtf242
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            that is expensive for mexican, when? : whistletits
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              It's some famous chef from new york who just opened that restaurant in Austin. I don't know... probably n... : wtf242
              • I'll go. Lemme know when. Maybe Sat night? : whistletits
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            lol that is expensive? Looks like every menu here : gmd
            • very expensive. I can only think of a handful of restaurants that are more expensive than that.. Only 1 m... : wtf242
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              where is here good sir? : whistletits
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                Wyoming : gmd
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                  holy crap people live in wyoming still? : whistletits
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                    whistletits I don't live in wyoming : gmd
                    • i see, i was too lazt to click ur name. : whistletits
                  • I used to live in wyoming. It was awesome. : daneloire
            • for mexican, it is most joints have plates for $10 or less : EvilDolemite
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            that looks good. fittingly i'm presently staying in 'la condesa', which is a nice area of mex city : Audhuml4
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              are you scared of getting kidnapped. : whistletits
              • nobody wants me : Audhuml4
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  Outside Lands SF http://www.sfoutsidelands.com/ Trreasure Island http://www.treasureislandfestival.com/ ... : rossimo
  • I wonder what trewasure island lineup will be, but those all looks pretty good exect rothbury...to oldies... : whistletits
• All I know is the Bouncing Souls on May 6th. : ADSliv
• Probably going to Rothbury http://www.rothburyfestival.com/ : wasylm
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  I am completely shocked that Bonnaroo doesn't take place in Australia. : edgewise
  • ... why would it? : Cihte
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  www.summerfest.com I wish they would release more of the lineup! I will probably see Conor Oberst and... : mojorisen1117
  • holyshit this is an awesome festival. : whistletits
• Summer means jet skiing wheeee : jimmy-buffett
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  I already have my Bonnaroo ticket. Haven't been to the farm since 2006 when Radiohead and Tom Petty (and ... : Cihte
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    well, I've purchased my ticket. Wont' arrive until the end of May : Cihte
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      Why would you need to crash with someone if you plan to go to Bonnaroo? It's a camping festival. I'm brin... : Cihte
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        Really? That sounds awesome too. How will the weather be? : whistletits
        • it's usually very hot and humid. Though, there's sort of a tradition of rain during the festival. There a... : Cihte
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  Even though the Bonnaroo lineup is the best festival lineup ever, the fun goes beyond just the music. The... : Cihte
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    Me again! I'm sorry, 'roo just gets me all excited. Phish is so rad, and by far the reason I'm travel... : Cihte
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      the drive from austin is @937...not too bad. : whistletits
      • Not at all. In fact, you can probably even road-trip it with people from TX. Check inforoo.org (the carav... : Cihte
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      Also, people get naked all the time and lay on the grass, or run through the fountain. I seen boobs!. ... : Cihte
      • man, people not showering for 3 days and horse shit everywhere...I bet that camp stinks. : whistletits
• http://milehighmusicfestival.com/ TOOOOOL : FusionJunky
• Going to Sasquatch (http://www.sasquatchfestival.com/) with some old friends. MURDER CITY DEVILS and oth... : gnomish
• At least Flow Festival in Helsinki, really good vibes :) http://www.flowfestival.com/en/ : knepus
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  Bonnaroo is awesome. I was thinking about going this year, but have had to put off vacation until later ... : mwasher
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    i think i'm gonna do lollapolloza in chi-town. : whistletits
    • Zzzzzz. Big mistake! : Cihte
• I wish I could go to http://sziget.hu/ this year. : ysbreker
• i got a ticket for lollapolooza...looks like i'll be hangin out in chi-town in aug 7th-10th. any shackers... : whistletits
• Gathering of the Vibes!!! Damn hippies. : ant_hillbilly
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  http://www.orbfestival.com I've never been out east in this country except for lower penn. michigan. i... : esmokah
  • also, http://www.earthdance.org/ : esmokah

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• oops, forgot to pimp Arctic Fox's Uber Sound Overhaul of Awesome! http://alco23.shackspace.com/DoD : Dschinghis Khan
• I'll try to join! I've been busy as hell lately. : .frame
• I will definitely be there but I gotta jet around 11:30 or 12. : h o s t i l e
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  I am 16th with only 3 hours play time. I am too fucking cool. : h o s t i l e
  • The stats have a nice 'rubber banding' effect. You get more points for killing someone with higher points... : Arctic Fox
• bump : Dschinghis Khan
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  I'll be there to try to defend my #1 spot :P. : Alco23
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    lol, paging AlexXdude to the field. : Arctic Fox
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      AlexXdude is bored since we are all so easy to kill >:( : chungathebunga
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        nah, i just haven't really been playing much the last few weeks. I'll try to be there tonight though : AlexXdude
        • HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER! :) : Alco23
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          Damnit. Playing hockey tonight : chungathebunga
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            this is unacceptable chunga the bunga : AlexXdude
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              Indeed. We require our soldiers to have no social life and no physical activity! : Arctic Fox
              • you can have a social life and physical activity, just not on thursdays at 10 PM EST! : AlexXdude
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          Play tonight, Alex! : nevicata
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            you should play this tonight! : Dschinghis Khan
            • I don't have it! And besides, TF2 >>> DoD. : nevicata
• I shall be there to get some ROCKET LAWNCHAIR action in. And hey, maybe I should get the 8 remaining MG42... : Arctic Fox
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  Sharks game again. If it's still going later on I might pop in. : gnomish
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    ^^^ This. : yosemiteclimber
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      >:( : Alco23
      • lol! Sorry, playoff hockey trumps video games every time. : yosemiteclimber
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  I'MMA BE THERE. POST NUDEZ. : vile
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    You obviously haven't seen some of the more charming sprays that gnomish et al come up with : Arctic Fox
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      Tits or GTFO is and will continue to be the best spray in any source game and I'll stand by that claim. : AgentPothead
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        Oh that one is fine, I'm talking about the meatspin sprays, or that nasty one of the girl throwing up on ... : Arctic Fox
        • DICK SAUCE : Dschinghis Khan
        • Yeah see, you can blame that gay stuff on gnomish, but the best tits in the game is all me baby. : AgentPothead
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    NWS http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=1240521211565_uh7tckr2fdw30vat53a6.jpg : Dschinghis Khan
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      ib4 fat : AlexXdude
      • eh, whatever, i think shes cute. : Dschinghis Khan
      • Sup, FPSAlexx : smegmar
• Evening bumpage : Arctic Fox
• oh hay I'm back from vacation : timaste
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  Me and my Kar will be there. : darklink28
  • you use that shit you are banned mother fucker!! not really :D : Dschinghis Khan

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  Concentrate on getting through Basic and MOS training before you start thinking about Rangers, let alone ... : AlexXdude
  • also congrats! : AlexXdude
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    heh, yea most def. My buddy is in ranger school right now & failed on the 3rd part, so he's having to do... : goatjc
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      The last phase is one of the hardest. My former 1SG at my unit was a Ranger and said that part he drank s... : Sailor of Fortune
      • Yea, I'm not exactly sure what part it was that he failed at. . .from the info that I got, it was the map... : goatjc
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  I was a ranger and I felt bad for the medics cause they had to carry a shitload more than us combat guys ... : hashd
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    and here I thought you just flew spaceships all day :D : AlexXdude
    • He walked in the dark places no others would enter, carrying a goddamn heavy pack. : elwood00
    • Hahahaha : hashd
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    The Rangers I knew in Iraq were loaded. They carried 3X basic combat loads and the medic had the biggest ... : Sailor of Fortune
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      medics/radiomen are always fucked at rucking : deadfish
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        rto is a whore in any combat unit. : xxiv
        • this is SO true. : deadfish
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          and always the biggest target in a firefight too! anything larger than the whip antennae is just a huge "... : mindfk
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            i hated those faggot tent pole connector antennas. and getting up early to be at battalion toc to fill th... : xxiv
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              all i know is comm never fucking works. especially when you need it. if i had a dollar for every time ... : mindfk
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                oh and trying to connect the headset to the PRC is the hardest thing in the world. : mindfk
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                  Oh gods, I was with a Signal Battalion and that gives me bad memories when putting equipment together. : Sailor of Fortune
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                    it's always the last thing i have to do before stepping out on a convoy because comm always takes their f... : mindfk
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                      wtf? just use peltors? : deadfish
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                        we don't get fancy stuff like that. : mindfk
                        • before we got peltors we used to tape a spoon to the hand mic so we could clip it to our helmets lol. : xxiv
                    • You are talking about Call of Duty games right? : excessus
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      Yeah, word around the office was that medics carry the #2 heaviest pack in the force. The first being an ... : disposition
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        haah no medics carry the heaviest : deadfish
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          he just said medic was the heaviest : RikiTiki2
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            #2 is what he said. #1 is what i've seen. : deadfish
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              Hahaha, well fuck. Since I have about 5 months until ship, I'm about to start rucking with 35, moving up ... : disposition
              • hahah check your PMs dude : deadfish
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                hahah "rucking" sounds so gay. in the marine corps we call it "humping". er... wait. fuck. : mindfk
                • the brits have the best term. they call it tabbing. tab = tactical approach to battle. going on a tab... : xxiv
              • Careful not to bust yourself before you go otherwise you'll be stuck in IET FOREVER! : Sailor of Fortune
              • Don't bother, train at 35/35 until you're comfortable, then work up to 55 and don't go over 65 lbs when t... : Magus
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    would you mind sm'ing me your name and class? or unit if you were 75th. you understand why i'm asking... : xxiv
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      I was in 2/75 out of Ft. Lewis Wa my mos was 11c fuck I was a gunner so I had to jump with the damn 60mm ... : hashd
      • Oh shit, old timer. :) I'm at Ft. Lewis now, a lot of guys I work with were in 2/75. Did you go to Iraq f... : Magus
  • You still in the service? What unit are you with? : disposition
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  Fuck that go to Sapper school! : whistletits
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    He's not a combat Engy. : Sailor of Fortune
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      i think that school is open to everyone now. : whistletits
      • it is for 11x's anyway. : xxiv
      • Well there is supposedly a Counter-IED course now taught by Sappers/EOD but I haven't seen the class numb... : Sailor of Fortune
• Where are you at? : Koral06
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  mheh... 6 years here and only 5000 posts? not sure that's Shackmeet worthy. : Korban
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    quality, not quantity : kn1fe
    • neither : Korban
  • For the Minneapolis crew -- sorry, we keep cunts out ;] : disposition
• E , E , E. : packav
• Gah, I'm a green side qualified corpsman for the navy and I'm out in less than a year, and I've been luck... : shwortdogg
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  I am assuming Active Component since it's just 4 years and you probably have to do the remaining 4 as Res... : Sailor of Fortune
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    Also best of luck at your Basic and AIT. Ranger School is a good confidence builder and I wish I had jump... : Sailor of Fortune
    • RIP is pretty fun but just make sure not to let yourself get admin fucked somehow : deadfish
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    Reserve -- entering as an E-3. Supposedly I'll get out of basic as an E-4. : disposition
    • Err, 4 year active, 4 year reserve. : disposition
    • Supposedly I'll get out of basic as an E-4. lol don't count on it, unless you have some kind of drug deal... : Magus
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  Good luck man, i am separating with 23 years next month.. It's been quite a ride, when i came in we we... : watcherxp
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    Man, that sounds intense. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but I want to thank the cooler heads that ... : silent prophet
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      Yeah, was a strange time, I worked 24 hours/7 days a week on alert, with a week off, then back on alert ... : watcherxp
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        It is a shame what happened to SAC. : bombay
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          No kidding, my old SAC brain just can't understand the nuclear fiasco that happened last year.. My bra... : watcherxp
          • At least the history remains. Poor LeMay must be rolling in the grave right now. : bombay
  • I've always wanted to be a medic. Something about standing between a man's life and death in the midst of... : disposition
  • Also, what was your MOS? : disposition
• From one Military man to another, congratulations and thank you for your service. : Salad Sammich
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  ARMY folk: What does the number mean when they say things like "101st Airborne Division"? Do they "reti... : zebosausamite
  • not usually. occasionally they will if a unit takes horrific losses in some famous battle. : deadfish
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    101st is the unit's designator. like you have 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Infantry Divisions. They created uni... : Sailor of Fortune
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      That sounds confusing as shit. : action wombmate
      • Heh, it's simple once you enter the world of NATO Symbology: http://www.friesian.com/history/order-32.gi... : Sailor of Fortune
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      wtf if you can figure all of this shit out you should just go to medical school instead cuz ur a genius : arizona bay
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        I suck at putting on a field dressing but I can stick you with an IV. Getting a 1 Liter bag of IV flui... : Sailor of Fortune
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          Dude, I spoke with 2 prior service and an active service guy while at MEPS, and they ALL said the same th... : disposition
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            We had a Medic reclassed to Admin in the unit I deployed with and the week before we shipped he showed us... : Sailor of Fortune
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              wow, that is dangerous as fuck : Jackass1233
              • Yeah, I don't think I'll ever try it again. : Sailor of Fortune
              • Yeah, that is crazy shit. Bet that fucking burned going in. : bombay
            • hahahaha : Magus
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          hahah. before my last deployment we got trained as "combat life savers" so they taught us how to do more ... : mindfk
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            Man, when we were at mob station we just would take the IV bags and stockpile them. Then we took the bags... : Sailor of Fortune
            • Took the IV bags out of the CLS bags that is. : Sailor of Fortune
            • Damn it, TMC not TMP. Too much CS:S : Sailor of Fortune
          • All the Army really expects soldiers to retain out of CLS is how to apply a tourniquet :) Any other train... : gatts
    • Battalion is the smallest self sustaining element in the military. For the regular Army, maybe. :) : Magus
  • Mostly battalions will get deactivated and reclassed or reactivated later. : whistletits
• I owe you a beer! Congats Man! : watcherxp
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  Army d00dz: What unit/MOS/rank are you? : disposition
  • 1st ID 2nd BDE STB - Signal Corps - 2LT There is some good advice to heed in this thread. As some abov... : gatts
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    I'm a Sergeant stationed over at Ft. Lewis. : Magus
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      I was there last year for BNCOC, I like it up there, wouldn't mind being stationed there. Another SSG fro... : Sailor of Fortune
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        Its a beautiful base, beautiful scenery all around the area. But it bugs me how generally rude people are... : Magus
        • I kind of wish Oakland Army Base was still running, I heard back in the heyday it was the most sought aft... : Sailor of Fortune
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  AF Dudes: Same Question. : watcherxp
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    Hell, I'll jump on this. 5RS / 2A373(A..I'm not giving it up!) / TSgt : Deviaant
    • Heh, 2A593(B!) myself /MSgt : watcherxp
  • separated after 4 years, 3C051, SrA : dextius
  • 3C072, from a 1T171, TSgt : capt tripps
• Oh shit, man. Good luck. I'm guessing that means you won't be at Lollapalooza this year. : mittense
• My really really close friend is a combat medic - he's on his 3rd tour in iraq right now as the medic for... : virus
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  Twin Cities Shackmeet? Absolutely! : Bold
  • Haaaaayyy : jimmy_legs
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  Good luck dude. Try not to get to demotivated after basic. I got a year left and I cant help but count th... : bobbman
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    Then again the Marine Corp sucks the life out of you, your experience may differ. : bobbman
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      who are you with? mos? : mindfk
      • 2/4, 0311 : bobbman
• good luck, disposition! : Mmmmmoo
• Congrats man. Thanks and good luck! : Colleton
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  That's awesome! Thank you so much for your service! : whodares
  • He'll make us proud. : Sailor of Fortune
• Ubershield or Kritzkrieg? : NexusOne
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  Primarily for Air Force, but still good reading. I posted this just over 2 years ago on 4/06/07 http: : Xin Jing Client 1a
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    Thank you for that post back then. I kept some of that stuff in my head through basic and tech school. ... : glio1337
    • Sometimes I wish I went AF just because you guys have such better looking women. : Magus
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  my cousin is a combat medic / special forces. smallest dude there. currently deployed (he spent his once ... : bosst0ne
  • Where is he stationed? Also once a month phone call what the fuck : Magus
• Good luck, homie. Where's basic at? : Kaiser
• awesome, thank you and stay safe, especially when you deploy. : yacoub35
• Combat medics always have the most fucked up PTSD. Good luck. : Albemuth
• You may end up running to my brother at some point in your career. He's in the same unit, now stationed ... : Wolfanoz
• You sir, are a greater man than I. : sukabljat
• Awesome. Good luck, stay safe, and don't stick your finger in any open wounds, you don't know where that ... : yosemiteclimber
• stay safe and good luck. : pancake humper
• What are the requirements to becoming a combat medic? : freshyk
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  Some advice about Basic: don't get tunnel vision. Remember what you want: Airborne Ranger. You will hear ... : Magus
  • can't speak to the army specific stuff in this post but i 100% agree with the volunteer for everything ad... : mindfk
• Remember: Don't use your Ubercharge on a scout and you'll be fine. : ChibiJosh

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• Those bloody smokers >:( : Snuffles-
• i agree, it is super fun. : Dschinghis Khan
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  its a little buggy, a lot of the hunters/smokers go tot he same spot to attempt the same pull. they need... : brainchild420
  • If anyone is interested, the dedicated server logs show these spawns happening all at once in a typical g... : Rich McNinch
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  For some reason this game mode crashes for me within 2 minutes every time. :( The campaign levels I... : midgetherder
  • I think my comp was starting to overheat last night. There were so many specials and common on the screen... : bombay
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    nvidia card? try the 178.24 drivers. this fixed all my problems. : hirez
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      Bastard stealing all my advice. :)~ : erebus
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        you were busy flexing! : hirez
        • Alas, this is true. : erebus
• It's pretty scary when you encounter 3 smokers and 3 hunters at once. You know you're screwed if you don... : DHAvatar
• I kinda prefer having more common infected and less special. : Waffles!
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  Best L4D mode IMO : Thomas Hace
  • campaign co-op is damn good, but survivor kicks it up a notch. BAM : Downforce
• My son and I love it too. It's hard as hell though. : edgewise
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  Is this pretty much like horde mode in Gears2 or more chaotic? Are there breaks between waves? : ieGod
  • There are breaks but sometimes they are only 5-10 seconds, other times a little longer. Usually by the ti... : h o s t i l e
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    Pretty much like Gear2, except you will never get to wave 50, EVER! : soapland
    • There's a few shackers that can attest to reaching it and beating it... : dedgecko
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  It's fun but I'll take VS -- competing against people over it most any time --; survivor will get old for... : thief
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    It's a nice mode to play with when you don't have an hour but still want to shoot some heads. : Snuffles-
    • That's a good point - normally L4D requires a solid time investment, but Survival is perfect for a quick ... : crummynz
    • Agreed, thats what turned me on to it. : benwha18
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    I want VS Survivor! : midgetherder
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      I've heard lots of people ask for this, but isn't it technically impossible? You would have to have 10-12... : mysled
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        Could always reduce the respawn time or eliminate it altogether. : Mmmmmoo
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          Yeah, would be pretty simple. If there are more special infected than you have players, that means the AI... : pyide
          • I think I'd actually enjoy this more than regular Versus or vs AI survival. : pyide
    • This would be awesome. Something like rotating through 3 teams of 4, so you had 4 v 8 constantly, woul... : gnomish
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    but Adam, you are a MACHINE. so of course people would give you the most challenge. : hirez
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      Don't mock me! I suck at survivor, just ask Khan who had to rescue me several times :( : thief
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        its true, he does. But Adam, yo ucan compete with other people for time. I found this out last night yo u... : Dschinghis Khan
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          Hiding in a room is only so fun. What makes VS fun is the movement. Survivor only allows a little bit o... : thief
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            well that was one map we played dude. We should play the light house map, moving from place to place is k... : Dschinghis Khan
            • so far my favorite is the level in no mercy with the gas station. I need to try the light house some more... : mysled
            • I've played the LH one a few times and can see that, as it's all about using up pills before health packs... : thief
            • moving correctly from place to place is the key, as I recall :P : c0bra
• It is. It's almost always 50/50. Some get so frustrated because they can't make it a certain point. Other... : Godhatesfatpeople
• I love it. I like your wording of cathartic. : bombay
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  Is there a new record yet? : virus
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    sheepraper, drakoniac, drak's cousin and I made it past 13 minutes last night! I've heard of people getti... : mysled
    • Whoa. I'd like to see a video of that!! : virus
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      me, dmason, CptTrips, and Death of Rats got 14 minutes on the terminal last night. : Dschinghis Khan
      • That was surprisingly a lot easier than I thought it would be. We got just shy of 14 last night too. : K1Bond007
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        It was 15 minutes, and it was me, not dmason ;) : Arctic Fox
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          oh that's right he had to bail, i'm sorry Fox : Dschinghis Khan
          • That's alright, I understand, we're both awesome, must be hard to tell us apart sometimes : Arctic Fox
        • Haha, yep, that was definitely not me. I had to bail... : dmason
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        Was this after I left? D: : c0bra
        • yes. : Dschinghis Khan
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      Yup some of my friends list have 16 and 17 for certain maps. I'm more interested to see the Lighthouse ... : gnomish
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        Yeah it seems people are finding good "corners" to achieve those high times. I want to see numbers like t... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Damn that map and it's breakable walls. This one time we stashed all our gas cans and propane tanks in th... : Mmmmmoo
          • Something similar happened to us. We had saved a couple of gas cans up top to use later for upcoming wave... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          We did a 12.5 minute Lighthouse run on launch day. The "secret spot" is hiding on top of the two water he... : kbufo
          • I think the key to the ammo thing is to only use auto-shotties, and make sure you use pistols for everyth... : mysled
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        11:00 is my limit on lighthouse so far. Hoping for a better time but cannot manage that. : sheepraper
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          I've only made silver on that map. its HARD. had a good new strategy though from the guys I was playing w... : hirez
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            We stayed in the generator room but I was playing with some really good people. : sheepraper
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              how did that work when there were a couple tanks at the same time? did you have enough flammable material... : hirez
              • Everyone packs autoshottys, a full clip each is enough to take a tank down. : Arctic Fox
  • if you can get the tanks to get stuck, apparently you can go for over an hour : yacoub35
• I still haven't tried this, I need to make it a priority tonight. : devi| dog
• Boo, i can't join the Dallas servers. Keeps saying "Connection with session has been lost" as soon as i c... : Snuffles-
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  i agree. but i wish there was some kind of stopping point . . . a break between a few of the waves. and... : jedi_27
  • One of the things I'm trying to get better as is spotting the Tanks from the top of the lighthouse as the... : Godhatesfatpeople
• the time is great. i can play an FPS game for 5minutes in the morning before work. : handofthrawn
• Going to give this a shot tonight. : megarust32
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  i had 2 tanks at once yesterday, i thought that wasnt supposed to happen. : papaskot
  • No it is, its like fighting two Abobos' in Double Dragon. : Dschinghis Khan
  • oh yes you can! the further you get, the quicker they come. we had 3 tanks at one point. : hirez
  • I think they just spawn at a predetermined time based on the elapsed time. I know that I was running out... : .Jayson
• most games are going to take less than 10 minutes Man there were a couple where we were lucky to survi... : c0bra
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  I love this mode, but there are a few issues that stand out more when playing this. 1. Hunters / Smok... : K1Bond007
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    I think Survival mode is just a coop version of Versus which would explain the melee cooldown and hunter ... : Mmmmmoo
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      Id love to see a version of Survival mode with human played zombies as well as AI to fill out the numbers... : nem00
      • That'd be cool, especially since there's times when I just want to play infected for a long time and not ... : Vincent Grayson
  • I swear that I shot a hunter from the machine gun while he was pouncing at me and it registered as having... : c0bra
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  Alco, K1Bond007, Deceth, and I got our first gold medals last night. Good times. http://www.shackpics.com... : Mmmmmoo
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    Survival needs more Boomers. Their numbers are always low, and getting goo'd is one of the harder to nego... : FusionJunky
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      I think it actually has a lot of boomers, but they tend to not make it far because everyone's firing as f... : mroizo40
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        I've only played maybe 10 rounds so far but about half of them it'll have 0 boomers in the final kill tal... : nem00
        • I've had that happen too...hell, I'll even *HEAR* the boomer spawn, and still see zero. I think it might ... : Vincent Grayson
  • Glad. When I was playing with Alco, K1Bond and Deceth last night, I definitely didn't feel like I was he... : slambast
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  I wish it was more progressive like zombie mode in WaW. : Fred Garvin
  • I suspect someone will add this as a mod when the SDK is released. I like how it's dependent on cash to b... : K1Bond007
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    agreed or something like the GOW2 Horde mode. : jedi_27
    • Yeah, I mean it's kind of fun, but 5 minute rounds are a bit short. Especially when you spend that amount... : Fred Garvin
    • GOW2 Horde totally kicks ass! Cant wait for GOW3... : excessus
  • I've never played WAW but I think you're asking for what I'd like too. : abrasion
• inverse . see how quckly you can kill lots of zombies (say 50 each) and die. : CoRDS
• I was very skeptical of it when it was announced but I'm glad to report it is much more awesome than I ex... : DOOManiac
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  That said, I'm kind of miffed that I can't get a single 8 player Versus game going w/ Shackers on the new... : DOOManiac
  • you could always start one yourself, and invite others to join you! : hirez
• I wish the leaderboards were tied to the L4D group like servers are : Thomas Hace
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  I would like to see some serious options added to it (and or just changes) How about at the 10 minute ... : abrasion
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    this sounds good. : yacoub35
    • While I'm on a roll,... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=768320 I started that ... : abrasion
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    That sort of defeats the purpose of trying to survive. If your health and grenades were re-stocked and If... : pyide
    • I think survival is permanently set to normal or easy as well, because FF damage seems really low. : pyide
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      I must've explained wrong, I'd just like it to last a bit longer - eventually becoming so hard that sure ... : abrasion
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        Well there are a lot of maps you can play it on, and it's easy enough to go multiple times. If you want a... : pyide
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          Pyride I <3 you, I love co-op and expert co-op is awesome but no cocks want to play it, they are all up i... : abrasion
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            Well for one they'd have t remove the whole leaderboard system for people not using the standard settings... : pyide
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              Disable the leaderboard for the non standard mode, hundreds of games do this, even Pixel Junk Monsters do... : abrasion
              • Part of me like that everything is simple and streamlined and can't be messed with much. As soon as the S... : pyide
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    This mode was specifically designed to be short. One of their initial requirements was that the typical g... : SatansFist
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      That's why I'm proposing options for people who would like it to last longer :P : abrasion
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        I'd like to see that stuff added with an SDK. : crummynz
        • It would be nice if they released it within a year of the games release. : abrasion
  • They designed this mode to be played as a quick pick-up and not last longer than 15 minutes. They said th... : Godhatesfatpeople
• i'm updating the shack philly servers to add a survival server right now : dirge23
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  the quickness is the best thing about it IMHO.....i stopped playing alot of L4D because i could never co... : ozfactor
  • Yeah, I love that I'm able to squeeze in 2-3 rounds in between laundry loads. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  New update: Survival Mode Changes - Darkened the Lighthouse background movie and increased the co... : pyide
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    I wonder what the exploits were. : Mmmmmoo
    • We were able to get up on the plane in Dead Air. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Getting into corners or areas where the AI couldn't reach the Survivors. This is why you saw so many high... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Meh, fighting AI isn't as good as fighting humans. If we had two teams that swapped and tried to get bet... : Wheatloaf
  • I could see them doing a versus version of survival eventually, I wouldn't rule anything out. There'... : pyide
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  why aren't more people playing this right now? or do i not have the right shackers on my Friends list in ... : yacoub35
  • It seemed to grow old quite quickly. : abrasion
  • im stuck at work , and i cant play that while my kids are awake/at home . so that limits my playing time ... : CoRDS
  • Work... I'll be on tonight. : dmason
• I kinda wish there was a survival/versus mode. : bobbman

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  What a bunch of fuckbags. : theangrywaffles
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    We knew they were just withdrawing for PR reasons, it wasn't a real victory. We just have to stay on top ... : Visceral Monkey
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      hey just the fact they withdrew the cap plan is a pretty big deal! i honestly was ready to move over t... : EvilDolemite
      • You might want to keep considering it at this rate. : Visceral Monkey
      • But they didn't really. : pancake humper
      • They didn't though, that's the thing. All they are doing is spending more money on "educating" customers... : twifosp
    • For certain. I was impressed by the people willing to stick with TWC even after they decided to shelve th : theangrywaffles
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  so, they aren't upgrading to docsis 3, but if they implemented the caps, they'd have given everyone more ... : EvilDolemite
  • Sure it does, it means you'll eat your little bandwidth shit sandwich even faster and like it! : Visceral Monkey
  • It does if it wasn't capacity but online video competition that was the start of all this. : Conan
  • why? The way I have always understood it is that teleco's aren't set up for capacity but they are set ... : stgdz
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  Do people really think there aren't going to be bandwidth caps on every ISP within 5 years? Because anyon... : geedeck
  • i don't care about having a cap. i would only like the cap to be reasonable. $55 for a 40GB plan is rid... : EvilDolemite
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    Because it hasn't been capped since it's incarnation. : freakynipples69
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      For home connections, but every wireless connection always has. And yeah, I mean I get that it's always B... : geedeck
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        "Might as well just pay for it like the electricity." : Luminair
        • there is a big difference between generating electricity and maintaining a network, black lung for one : Luminair
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        I already pay $40+ a month for internet. I don't need to pay more. Should I be charged per minute of tele... : freakynipples69
        • Exactly. Will they begin to charge you for how many hours your TV is on everyday and calculate the amoun... : ant_hillbilly
    • So what. MP3s used to be free and widely available. Web sites used to not have that many ads. The interne... : Cygnus X-1
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    Probably has something to do with countries around the world with no caps and better speeds. : TreMetal
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      I agree that I don't think its based on infrastructure needs. Its based on increasing profits as much as ... : silent prophet
      • unfortunately in most places the consumer base can't abandon their providers : zerog83
  • I don't think we are bitching about the fact they are thinking about having caps, they are bitching becau... : pancake humper
  • agreed. they are reverting back to when high speed just was ramping up. cell phone plans are extremely st... : Downforce
  • Probably because they are full of shit and are no where near using up the capacity they have, that's why... : Visceral Monkey
  • Because the proposed costs to the consumer have essentially nothing to do with the actual cost of the ban... : Arcanum
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    Because the prices aren't planned in "pay for the shit you use" fashion. They are planned in a "don't bo... : twifosp
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      Then citizens should mobilize and make their demands clear! Well, clearer than CAPS BAD, FIRE BAD speak : geedeck
      • They did. Why do you think we had two different Congress Critters start talking about taking legislative ... : Conan
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        a fair cap based on usage trends in my area, an easy ability to track usage, automatic email warnings on : EvilDolemite
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          Don't even put up with that. I'm going to have a no cap policy on any internet I pay for for as long as ... : twifosp
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            I'm sure they would love to partner up and charge Netflix fees to get faster connections to consumers, bu... : wasylm
            • You don't have to partner to get faster connections. You have to partner for subscription services. : twifosp
      • Follow the story -- Stopthecap.com is a huge movement. There's been town halls. Lots of emails. Petit... : twifosp
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        it's been a very well organized and thought out movement against them, nothing like that at all : Audhuml4
        • Oh, well that's pretty cool then. OK! : geedeck
  • Because this isn't about capacity. It's about protecting on demand and premium cable revenue. : Conan
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    because their price per amount is retarded. I work at an ISP. I know what bandwidth costs. they are in te... : NexusOne
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      well then they're just begging for any other company to come out with "NO CAPS 20 DOLLARS" campaigns aren... : xxx2xxx
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        Except cable companies are government backed monopolies. DSL and wireless aren't competitive with cable f... : magila
        • Then the government has to make laws requiring them to rent out bandwidth to resellers at low price so ne... : xxx2xxx
        • In my area they are more than competitive. : Halen
      • Sure...if those other companies could get into the market. Which often they can't. As an example, Time ... : Arcanum
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    Pretty soon we'll be paying for air too. I,for one, am sick and tired of being ganked for everything. Whe... : bozer
    • But when your parents are our age they didn't have Cell phone Cable TV Internet : mroizo40
    • All 3 of the services you mentioned are choices. You don't have to have any of them. You choose to have a... : Colleton
  • Because Time Warner themselves have admitted that the cost per user for their internet service has gone D... : mwasher
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    No this isn't "paying for the shit you use" - you're already paying for that. This is sheer greed. They... : destroy.all.monsters
    • "paying for the shit you use" - you're already paying for that. You're also paying for it (whether you... : MagicWishMonkey
  • I would have no problem with caps as long as two conditions were met: 1 - Government sponsored cable/i... : MagicWishMonkey
  • This is such a bullshit fatalistic argument. : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • But it's not just the caps. They are going to rape everyone with this 'restart' of billing. : phil_mckraken
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  I got over pretty good on Time Warner yesterday. Cancelled my TV service ( I went to the office, not over... : snuff
  • Oh yeah, I bought an antenna to get OTA HD for like $30. : snuff
  • mlb.tv is so awesome : Deathlove
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  I have no sympathy for the Roadrunner user in the story. 44GB in 1 week? lol People like him are what ... : Colleton
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    cable hasn't worked that way in years also 44GB is not unreasonable for one week, if you stream a lot ... : EvilDolemite
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      I know comcast still works exactly like that. They even warn you that your "maximum speeds" are not guara... : silent prophet
      • Here's the thing, the maximum speeds aren't guaranteed by any connection, because at some point the chain... : Toraz Chryx
  • me either. What a fucking pig. : ultramega
  • what? pirated movies, games and music? No way, he is probably just a Linux fan and likes repeatedly downl... : Smitty
  • those punk kids and their technology : Audhuml4
  • Netflix HD was hitting me with 700kb/sec. That would be 17 hours of movies.. 6-8 movies on Netflix HD an... : TreMetal
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    44GB in a week is completely trivial to use. : Toraz Chryx
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      That's not even a good night. : Judicus
      • No shit, part of the service I give my "in the boonies with slow net" clients is to plumb their machines ... : Toraz Chryx
  • Um, you realize that all the things you have named as pirated are also very commonly downloaded/streamed ... : wasylm
  • shut it ! http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/06/japanese-isp-institutes-upload-caps-of-30gb-dail... : sikander
  • i know you think dsl is all yours, but thats not the case. the shared bandwidth point is just moved fart... : smacknca
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    With a Rhapsody subscription, Hulu, Netflix, HD youtube, and Steam, I could imagine hitting that. : crummynz
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      It would be a bit tough though. HD movie rentals are typically around 1.5 - 2.0GB each -- so 44GB coul... : Kentor
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        How is an HD movie rental only 2gb? Are these sub-720p? Shit, a properly compressed 1080p movie typically... : d0gbert
        • Yeah, 2gb is very low quality for even a 720p feature-length video. : yakz
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          I haven't streamed on recently, but that's what I recall the sizes typically weighing in at. I'll check a... : Kentor
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            Netflix 500 - 3400 kbps Amazon Unbox ? - 6000 kbps (2500 kbps average) So it looks like: Netflix 0.4... : Kentor
            • What kind of weakass HD is that stuff? :( : d0gbert
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    I've streamed over 30GB in HD video in a day. : yakz
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      Did you marathon the whole day or something? : Kentor
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        Yeah, I hadn't watched movies for a while. Granted, it was an outlier in terms of bandwidth usage, but wi... : yakz
        • Yeah, I think that 44GB isn't going to be typical usage per a week, but it's certainly possible without t... : Kentor
  • It's really not that much. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Does that mean we can't play on your lawn? : omnova
  • You're not thinking long term enough. More and more video streams are going HD and they need much more b... : sukabljat
  • Welcome to 2009 grampa. : ieGod
• Im done with this internet : two50six
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  Anybody know of any deal sites for AT&T U-Verse, like with free install promo? I am leaving TWC but ATT w... : dognose
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    I believe AT&T has a $100 rebate if you switch from a cable company for your internet. : hirez
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      check here: I see something about $250 back if you order on-line https://uverse1.att.com/un/launchAMSS.do : hirez
      • Sweet thanks!!! : dognose
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  The TW division i work for just got the go-ahead for DOCSIS 3.0. We also ignored the idea of bandwidth c... : burning eye
  • How do they break the company structure up, is it like a bunch of locally run establishments with near fu... : d0gbert
  • DOCSIS 3.0 reduces the effect of heavy transfers, doesn't it? I know it does channel bonding, but that's... : Postal
  • are people there laughing at all the stupid press these knumbskulls in texas are racking up? : smacknca

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• ww2 online? : loboca
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  Joint Operations had 128 if I remember correctly. : hoov1185
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    Had alot of fun with that one! : RookieCAF
    • As did I. I think I still have a copy and the expansion somwhere arund the house. : MacemanInTW
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  64 player 1942 was epic : kch
  • you are damn right. defgun shells were SERIOUS business. : Downforce
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  I'm glad player numbers have settled. A large part of the impetus driving the playercounts upwards was "W... : Alice O'Connor
  • L4D: Perfect example of making small, awesome. : LoioshDwaggie
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    Yeah unless you have organized voip with sub-channels on each team its very hard to communicate with 32 o... : Lightzout
    • True. The one thing I loved about BF2 was the squad parts of it. If it worked well then your team could m... : niceguynick
  • Yeah, although with specific objectives or class-based actions on the battlefield, you'd be more likely t... : niceguynick
• Quality over quantity. : Sailor of Fortune
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  Gameplay hasn't advanced, in fact it's sorta regressed. : trove
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    not really, its just alot more of the same, we are so picky now. I remember getting on quake1 and just... : chilln
    • I'm not so sure. We had Tribes with small teams and vehicles, then BF1942 with large maps and larger tea... : trove
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  At what point does it turn into an MMO? (Honest question) : RevRaven
  • If you can do dance moves ~ you are probably playing an MMO. : humbleone
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  I don't get how you guys enjoy those types of games. To me I want my actions to be significant. A team of... : avatar_58
  • I think it depends on your role/class. If they had a bf game where you'd build something or sabotage some... : niceguynick
• About 12 of them would play legitimately, the rest would be griefer fags trying to make youtube videos. : jingletard
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  Higher player numbers don't necessarily make things better... there are clear issues with balance and map... : Felraiser
  • It's also pretty funny that you criticize game companies for "focus on the visuals" when what you're push... : Felraiser
• the problem is that no one wants to stick to their 'role'. everyone would want to be the general directin... : hirez
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  Didn't somebody show off some game at E3 that would have 128 players, maybe even more? It didn't even hav... : evildanish
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    Massive Action Game for the PS3? It's supposed to support 256 players, according to the Wiki. And yes,... : RevRaven
    • Yeah, that's the one! : evildanish
  • You're thinking of Massive Assault Game for the PS3. I doubt that it will that massive for long. : Sailor of Fortune
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  Yes, developers have learned that if you streamline it and make it easier the more people play it. It's... : icon_of_syn
  • What's wrong with easy to learn, hard to master? : datoo
  • CounterStrike was the beginning of the end for the FPS. toot toot the failboat is here : Downforce
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    haha I was right with you until that last sentence there. I'd include CS as one of the last good ones. : Begawkiness
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      How's that? : icon_of_syn
      • Mis-reply - anyway, CS was the beginning of end is what I said. Not the end. Everything has gone from n... : icon_of_syn
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    tf2 is pretty fun though : Chandler55
    • agreed, read above. : icon_of_syn
• Right now I'd trade graphics for anything. I think we could have stayed at Half-Life 2 level graphics and... : melt_core
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  i remember 64 player quake 2 LMCTF/DM games on those huge custom 64 player maps. think the most that i... : -=kodiak=-
  • I was going to post that, too. Quake2 was the first I remember going to 64. : excessus
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  64 players seemed largely unplayable to me in bf1942 games. very few maps handled it well. 40-50 seemed t... : carnivore
  • pretty much all of the Italian levels were absolutely badass w/ 64 players. especially the british one... : -=kodiak=-
• Too bad network speeds don't follow Moore's law :( : MrLobo
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  There is some PS3 game IIRC that's poised to have 200+ . (Socom?) : Masem
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    MAG (Massive Action Game). Done by Zipline or something. : mittense
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      And I think it's 128. : mittense
      • Nah, they said 256, I'd be surprised if it's anything close to that when the game is actually released th... : pyide
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  Yeah :( The 24 player limit for TF2 is just stupid, especially with long-ass respawn timers, sometimes... : Beady
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    Respawn timer is a perfect punishment for doing something stupid. Play such that you do not die so often... : alias
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      Yeah because walking out of the spawn room to eat a crit rocket, headshot or any of the other one shot ki... : Beady
      • Shrug, crits change things slightly but the result remains the same. You did something dumb that the oth... : alias
  • theres alot of 32 player servers : HisKillSkill
• I was hoping to see at least 24 or 32 in quake live. : fathertime
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  I'm surprised no one has made another Planetside type game yet. That game was released 6 years ago, had a... : PointlesS76
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    I really want another Planetside game. : Evil Benius
    • I think Global Agenda is gonna be something like this. : Majuju
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  because more players means more fun : mittense
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    Look at Battlefield: Bad Company. It only has 24 possible players in a game compared to the 64 of its PC ... : mittense
    • Yeah, it's just how you tailor the game around X players. You can't just make a game and toss any number ... : Sailor of Fortune
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    you get what I'm trying to say though right? I have BC too which is great but I guess I loved seeing a lo... : niceguynick
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      I get what you're saying, but developers stopped playing the player count arms race and started realizing... : mittense
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        yep. even WoW realized this and scaled back the raid headcount from 40 to 25 or 10. people do gloss ov... : Downforce
        • Guess you haven't tried Wintergrasp? : lefthighkick
• I've never liked games played with that many players. I enjoy smaller games the most, it's fun when you s... : datoo
• It all depends on the game and the map. 64 is way too much for most maps in CoD4 but some of them are rea... : Dynotaku
• I have never been a big fan of the huge battles, they always seem to lack focus IMO. I have always been ... : Begawkiness
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  PLANETSIDE : Majuju
  • Does any one still play this? : WadeMcLain
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    :/ that game had so much potential. : re4ctor
    • It sucks when you are part of a major op where one person is in command drawing on th map you take over ... : Sailor of Fortune
  • Someone who knows WTF really needs to make an MMO spiritual successor... : DOOManiac
• there are SO many FPS these days and even with 16-32 player games a lot of them struggle to maintain a co... : derelict515
• I miss being able to play every new FPS game. Stupid ancient computer and no money. : ThomW
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  Remember the initial plans for BF2 to have scalable maps depending on how many people joined the server? ... : RookieCAF
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    It did have maps that scaled, just not dynamically or anything. : mittense
    • I remember in CGW that it was initially planned for them to scale dynamically. : RookieCAF
• What was the name of the small UT '99 map that was essentially a dome with a Redeemer in the middle and t... : dognose
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  I remember near the end of QuakeWorld somebody joined dm4 and dm2 (and one more map?) in one big map that... : dael
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    There were two of them, both adding 3 maps together. They were totally nuts, but a lot of fun. : Thresher
    • I remember playing those maps in some Sweden vs Finland matches. I remember playing one of those matches ... : Mysig
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  Do any of you kids remember the 64 player Quake 2 mega maps? : Omaha
  • Yeah, those were crazy. : bombay
  • I remember running around and not bumping into anyone for a while : Omaha
• BF1942 might be an exception to the rule, though. A BF game with 100+ players would still probably work ... : DonkeyPopsicle
• starsiege tribes had 128 : HisKillSkill
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  100 man ArmA 2 games are going to be fucking epic. : shortbuscaptain
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    sadly only 98 will buy it :( : Geoff Jr.
    • All I care is that I am going to be able to play with shackers, I know a few who are already looking forw... : shortbuscaptain
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    When does this come out? Maybe I'll try to play with the shacktac guys when this comes out. : Modulus
    • This summer sometime, hopefully. : shortbuscaptain
• Didn't Tribes I or II have games with over 100 people? : podung
• Quake 2 was the first to support 64 players. : Arcanum
• Hyjack: best techniques for deathmatch? I've been playing a lot of singleplayer UT2K4 and I always get... : Xin Jing Client 1a
• Agreed and agreed. Didn't ID release some server for Quake 2 that could run 128 player maps? I was rea... : Porkasaurus
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  Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising had up to 128 players in a game. I think around 80 was the sweet spot be... : ErikTehRed
  • I enjoyed it quite a bit. Alot of greifers tho. One guy didn't like me for pointing this out so he starte... : RookieCAF
  • It was a fine upgrade from Blackhawk Down, but everyone rather played BHD. : Sailor of Fortune
  • the apc's in that game were sweet. : mnsnota
  • Bumping this post because this game was GREAT. I played on some serious servers with 80+ people on those... : sukabljat
• WW2 Online gave me that kind of feeling, which BF1942 never really captured in the same way, if those two... : pharoah mike
• Grenade spam!!!! : spiderfill
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  Planetside called and left you a message... "Where did everyone go?" : SigENeaT
  • wow, bringing that back almost sounds like Eve's combat now. The blob effect. Wish some MMO could come ... : JuffoWup
• More players (at least on a team based game) give more opportunities for people that don't want to improv... : alias
• I blame matchmaking and lobbies... I hate them both. Also, I remember id adding a 128 player map for ... : razlebol
• needs more 64 player X-Wing / Tie Fighter game : Toraz Chryx
• I think that it might be harder to achieve critical mass for these games where you're expected to have su... : famine101

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• 0.o? : m0rfus
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  So, I had a fire-sale on all the shit I've been stockpiling over the last few weeks and made enough cash ... : Clasifyd
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    No. As was mentioned in the evening chatty, we have another dec on our alliance as well. : r_picmip 5
    • Ok, so that news is public. : mace
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      Mother fuck... Looks like I'm gonna be holding down the fort over in my system, then. : Clasifyd
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        You could always go in a shuttle to sign up and we'd escort your miner into 0.0. : r_picmip 5
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          Yeah, I like the leisurely mining that I'm doing now... I don't know if I want to dodge dickheads all nig... : Clasifyd
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            id encourage you to seriously consider making the move to 0.0. mining out there is more lucrative, it sho... : cpt_gloval
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              The down side is the rats are much bigger. You'll want to pair up with a combat type or two. Or wait fo... : Arcanum
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                See, that's exactly what I don't want to do. I only play for about an hour at a time, and I don't want t... : Clasifyd
                • I don't know when you're usually on, but when I'm on there are usually several people just hanging out. : Arcanum
              • yeah. but it's pretty easy to get someone to run security for you while mining, just ask. i can't do it j... : cpt_gloval
              • also, if you keep your eye on the overview for rat warp-ins, you should be able to bail in time. ive only... : cpt_gloval
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          Yeah. Right now it's more dangerous for corp members to be in Empire than it is to be in our 0.0 space. ... : Arcanum
          • It's not even remotely dangerous if you're in a group. We scared fucking Magus away with a Drake, a Jagu... : ejectorpod
      • If you guys can track down wormholes they might toss you out away from your enemies if you need to make r... : melkore
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      These wars are really annoying for someone like me who can only play in short bursts. I haven't been able... : ChibiJosh
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        work with corp members to find a time to escort you to where you need to be! we're safe in numbers guys. : ejectorpod
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          you're going to escort me on my missions I run? awesome! : mwasher
          • I'm sure people would be willing to join you! : ejectorpod
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    Really? Working the numbers I should only be seeing ~36% increase in yield when I move from my Osprey to... : ZTac
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      Oh, wait. Cruiser skill could account for that. : ZTac
      • LOL Yes, cruiser skill lvl 1. : Clasifyd
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      I only had Miner 1s on the Osprey, plus I got another level of Astrogeology, and another level of mining ... : Clasifyd
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        Math is fun :( : ZTac
        • So is lemon juice in my eyes... I think I'll stick to lemon juice : Clasifyd
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        I can't wait to get into a mining barge. I've got the skills trained, I just need the hardware. : Arcanum
        • That was my hardest time, too... Had to sell pretty much everything I owned to get it. Wasnt using any ... : Clasifyd
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          we have some extras at the POS for the op next week, if you can fly a barge you can probably fly one of t... : MisterPhoton
          • Oh nice! I've got about 4 hours of training left for Mining Barges 3, then a few days for Astrogeology 4... : Arcanum
        • just don't get a procurer, it's only about as good as a mining frigate. : dooberzoo
  • I'm pretty excited. I'm about 3 days away from a Retriever as well. : wanker67
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  Ok... I do need some fitting and training advice. I have a problem and it's not ED. I simply do not ha... : mace
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    skills mace, skills. youre not going to push those missiles any farther with modules. : m0rfus
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      Suggestions? Here is what I am at: Intelligence: 13.20 Perception: 13.20 Charisma: 11.00 Willpow... : mace
      • these are my suggestions, you *should* get these all to V eventually. * targeting and pushing a missil... : m0rfus
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    Targeting computers. I got 2 and it let's me target from 100k out but my missiles are only effective from... : g0nk
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      How do you determine the optimal range for a missile? I can't seem to find the info on the launcher or t... : Clasifyd
      • I believe you have to check the info in a missile that is currently loaded into your launcher. : daneloire
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        unlike turrets, missile range is determined by velocity and flight time. Other than skills as m0rfus ha... : JuffoWup
        • please keep in mind, targeting and pushing lead or missiles beyond 60KM are two COMPLETELY different set ... : m0rfus
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        it's roughly: flight time X max speed. It's actually a little less than that, because missiles don't alw... : Finestaut
        • my rule is: flight time * max speed * .75 but i adjust that .75 up for larger, slower targets. : cpt_gloval
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          That makes sense, actually. Thanks for that. : Clasifyd
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            also, pay attention to explosion velocity and explosion radius. If your target is going faster than your... : Finestaut
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              This is sweet info. I don't use missiles since I'm Gallente and relatively early in my piloting career so... : daneloire
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                Why make an alt when you can just cross train your main? : Finestaut
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                  Because eventually I am going to need an alt. This ore won't haul itself, sir. : daneloire
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                    i think you'll find that you have plenty of industry training to keep your alt busy without having to wor... : mindfk
                    • Yeah, I believe you're probably correct on that :P : daneloire
      • i dunno, i just shoot them until they hit something. :) : g0nk
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  fuck i forgot to log in last night and set a skill to train : mwasher
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    there would be times when i played eve, i would go out on friday or whatever and be at the bar when i rea... : xxiv
    • I have MisterPhoton on speed dial for these moments. : ejectorpod
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      I'm glad the added a 24 hour training queue. Having to log on at bizarre times just to set a new skill t... : Arcanum
      • yeah i think i'm training 2x faster now just becasue of that : cpt_gloval
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      hahah this has happened to me before. i'd turn to my gf and say "FUCK!" and she'd be like "what???" and t... : mindfk
      • My wife has gotten to the point where she can tell if I've had one of these moments, I'll give some kind ... : Finestaut
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      Leaving for a weekend trip I turned the car around after a few blocks to change my training to a longer s... : r_picmip 5
      • Hahahahahah awesome : Poor Yurik
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        take laptop with you next time. : m0rfus
        • No laptop (or blackberry) rule on our vacations :/ : r_picmip 5
    • hahahah : AlexXdude
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  Have you guys managed to get the noobs out of the station camp yet? ifnot i just read this :) http://w... : Vincenoir
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    fuck that we're going to get 15 destroyers and a tackler and see what kind of damage we can do to a stati... : ejectorpod
    • "Yeah FUCK that guy!!!" : mace
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  Hahaha last night was funny I had a blast! : hashd
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    can you guys please give us a story? are you really going to jeopardize security by not giving a low down... : m0rfus
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      LOL This is not top secret info. Aside from the system we were working in, it's nothing special :P N... : ejectorpod
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        Great times by all and we think g0nk was drunk. : mace
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          That would explain his comments in shack channel.. I mean, other than his usual comments. : loboca
          • SLOSH OP : Majuju
        • i wasn't!! I swear!! i was just in a goofy mood!! :) havin' fun! : g0nk
      • I must say I love my Cyclone setup now also! You forgot the Avril lyrics as well lol : hashd
    • lol : r_picmip 5
    • you need a TOP SECRET clearance to be in on this stuff. : MercFox1
• CUZ YOURE HOT THEN YOURE COLD, YOURE YES THEN YOURE NO........ Seriously, though, good times were had ... : MercFox1
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  I've been playing a level 1 Security agent for missions for some time and wonder when I will move on to l... : Sailor of Fortune
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    This chart will show you what standings you need: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L0ZO1xzqauc/RpG7oeSlhRI/AA... : r_picmip 5
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      Ok cool, thanks. So do I just need to work more for my Level 1 agent and my standings rise for the lev... : Sailor of Fortune
      • Don't check the standing with the agent. Check what your standing is to their organization/corp, that's ... : r_picmip 5
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        Also start working for a better quality level 1 agent. You'll get more LP and better standing boosts wit... : r_picmip 5
        • I found the list of available agents and I'm going to have to move. =/ : Sailor of Fortune
• ok, time to toss some fitting ideas. This is one possible scenario. I've been trying to come up with so... : JuffoWup
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  PHOTN PEOPLE Important poll up on the forums in lolcocks.x : MisterPhoton
  • I cast my vote for lolcocks. : MercFox1
  • rgr : cpt_gloval
  • Commented and voted. : Arcanum
  • voted! : AlexXdude
  • voted. I doubt that everyone will be voting as I have though. : BongSlayerB
  • Voted : Sailor of Fortune
• http://www.eve-search.com/thread/884478 Old but entertaining. : mace
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  Fitting (PvE) question: If I've got a vexor and 5 T2 drones...do I really need guns? If I slap some 1... : hawkeye
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    what would you fit in your highs instead of guns? : mindfk
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      Probably salvagers. It wouldn't be about slots it'd be because that 1600mm plating would use all of my p... : hawkeye
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        I've seen suggestions of perhaps 1 turret just so you can range pop the camp and get them all on you inst... : JuffoWup
        • That's a good idea, I noticed they didn't seem to want to aggro me at all. : hawkeye
  • With my Vexor I've been running 2x250 Rails, 2xSalvagers and 1xTractor. Considering dropping the 2x rails... : geedeck
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  ok, in case people are wondering on missile operations and what all the numbers on missiles mean, I stumb... : JuffoWup
  • Also on our new player guide: http://www.helpmewithmygameproblems.com/wiki/index.php/Understanding_Missi... : Finestaut
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  mace, did you see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6kKIvSBWQY :D : pancake humper
  • good god that's painful. : g0nk
  • Dude, I just happened to see it in another thread like 2 minutes ago! SO FUCKING AWESOME! You are fucking... : mace
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    Weird, anyone else having probs getting to YouTube? : loboca
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      Yeah : pancake humper
      • ah thnx. Worked on my phone tho. Was trying over Cogent land line. : loboca
    • it's been really slow for me for the past few days : buzzbat
  • Why didn't you sell your account? Couldn't you have made a chunk of money? : Poor Yurik