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  uh "know your enemy" isn't that original of a phrase dude. ratm didn't create that in any way or make it ... : JINKY
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    it's from Sun Tzu's The Art of War and is approximately 2600 years old : dirge23
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      which he stole from Bone Thugs n Harmony : Cihte
      • lol : ThomW
    • So it's a remix. : Xin Jing Client 1a
• http://www.thepeaches.com/music/dupes/ : ryuuseki
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  U2 and Metallica both released a song called "One" and nobody bitched about that. : jingletard
  • And Three Dog Night, Allanis Morisette and Harry Nilson..... : mordaken
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  RATM isn't nearly an iconic enough band to claim anything like this, sorry. : Attica Blue
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    exactly, nobody would call their song "Stairway to Heaven" or "Another Brick in the Wall" because those b... : dirge23
    • lies : sKetchflow
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    Um, yes they are. : Cihte
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      Um, not they really aren't. : sigpro
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        Indeed they are. Every time you see someone wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt - and you know you've seen them... : Cihte
        • so they are famous for selling a t-shirt of someone else? ok. : hamachi
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          Every time you see somebody waving a Confederate flag, they are advertising the Dukes of Hazzard : dirge23
          • fuckin lol : bipolar
          • lol : ThomW
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          That's cool that you're a fan but come on.... most of those people are actually just hipsters... oh wait,... : Floppygrandma
          • I'm not sure that my image of "hipsters" coincides with RATM. : crummynz
        • So its Rage's fault that all those douchebags wear che shirts and actually think they are cool by doing i... : xjdrake32
        • No, really that just means that there are still plenty of people who were fucking stupid enough to buy a ... : MacemanInTW
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      one might argue that Green Day is as iconic as RATM. : dopeman
      • No, sorry, not even close! : vtxrider80
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        Green Day is a household name for one reason only: the movie Angus. : Cihte
        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvg1bffOD0&feature=related lol : Cihte
        • hahaha : fishbone
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          This thread was already plenty ridiculous, no need to take it even farther. You're so wrong and I love Ra... : derelict515
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            I'm not wrong at all. : Cihte
            • well, maybe about the Angus thing. : Cihte
    • Within the group's niche of fans, yes, but you can't really begin to compare the notoriety of RATM to a Z... : Attica Blue
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      I couldn't name you one title of their songs if you asked me too. : anhero
      • but we can pretty much guarantee you've heard them. : zerog83
      • I know Guerilla Radio but i only know it because when I hear it, i wish it was Wall of Voodoo's much more : Floppygrandma
    • lol no : AlexXdude
    • uhhhh ummmmm no. you sound like an asshole! : Mr.SEX
    • uh, not they're not. : anthonybean
    • Not like any of the other bands mentioned, and "Know your enemy" isn't that original of a phrase. I lo... : zehh
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  RATM were fucking terrible. At least Green Day isn't ear-cancer. : wretchedradio
  • you are wretched : crummynz
  • I can't take you seriously ever again. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • You are soooooooooo wrong : sKetchflow
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    What the fuck is this shit. : Phil
    • You know what to do. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Truth : anhero
  • What the fuck are you talking about : mittense
  • ban this fool : marmite
  • you sir are outright broken, beyond saving. You will now only ever be remembered for your wrongness. I pi... : silentbobuk
  • I didn't like much of what they did after their debut album, but they really aren't that bad. : jingletard
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    They're both awful! *ducks* : thetangent
    • rage is just kinda "meh" to me now. And greenday is pretty wienery. : Fish_Bulb
    • I agree, they're both awful, but RATM just seriously pisses me off. The vocals were cringe-worthy, the so... : wretchedradio
  • I dunno, I was always thoroughly impressed with Morello's guitar work in Rage. : Ellissd
  • B& : r3dn3ck
  • You're taste in music is broken. : Ormsbee
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    strike that, reverse it! : SolveChrist
    • ^^^^ I agree with this SolveChrist. : deject
  • "...Rally round your family, with a pocket full of shells" Where else are you going to get post-apocal... : Xin Jing Client 1a
  • Green day is pretty bad too : dognose
  • Oh what the fuck happened to this world? : Thisispol
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    What is it about RATM fans that makes you guys so ravenous? : jayacheess
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      Call any big time band with a lot of fans here 'ear cancer' and see what happens, people will defend the ... : derelict515
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        I wonder if there's a pretty well-defined list of what those bands are for the Shack. I think we saw a co... : Felraiser
        • http://www.last.fm/group/shacknews maybe : crummynz
        • Menudo : bipolar
        • Please. Try NIN. : Attica Blue
  • get the fuck outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : infiltrator`
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    I hate RATM too. Shitty singing and shittier guitar. : ThomW
    • I can imagine not everyone liking vocals but what issue do you have with the guitar? : crummynz
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      Tom's guitar playing is amazing. : Cihte
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        what : Halen
        • IT IS AMAZING! There. Did you hear that. : Cihte
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      Also, Zach raps. He doesn't sing. : Cihte
      • But not very well (at least 90% of the time) : MacemanInTW
  • Holy shit you fail at good music. : Freon
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  I would have included Pink Floyd's "Wish You were Here" but since then, both Incubus and Rednex made a so... : mordaken
  • I remember when Incubus' version came out. I thought the same thing. The nerve, man. The nerve! : Cihte
• Green Day's last album was really good, and new songs they've been playing at concerts this week have bee... : not work safe
• I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like "Know Your Enemy" is some indelible title, it's pretty c... : action wombmate
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  They made a cheesy song listenable, so I salute them. : Boxelder
  • It's not even the same song. Just the same title. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  And Sun Tzu's descendants should sue RATM. : PointlesS76
  • I don't think that would be applying tactics from their most popular manuscript. : Xin Jing Client 1a
• I doubt many people know this fact or care. : WhatIsThisFor
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  Much like the other classic phrase they created, "Look Both Ways Before Crossing The Street". : Johnny Law
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    Classic Devo song. : Cihte
    • and They Might Be Giants! wtf : Cihte
• green day has been doing political crap for at least their last couple of albums this is nothing new. al... : mikecyb
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  Zach couldn't find Tibet on a map if he had a Sherpa with him. : Lunatic Angelic
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    but Tom graduated Harvard! That has to amount to some smarts in the band!!! He graduated in 1986! Way bef... : Cihte
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      I like Tom, but Zach was hypocritical / holier-than-thou enough for the whole fucking band, a complete to : Lunatic Angelic
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        ODAAL is great. : Godhatesfatpeople
        • Yes! I love Last Letter. : crummynz
      • I disagree! When the police shut down their show at the RNC last year they did an acapella concert: http:... : datoo
  • Pretty sure he could. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I'm just surprised they are not suing every company which creates machines. : Alice O'Connor
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    Then what would they have to rage against? : MeenMunky
    • Clubbed thumbs : Godhatesfatpeople
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  i like Rage and all, but did you justmp compare them to Zepplin or Floyd? : Clay
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    that was clearly a mistake on his part, ratm is much more talented or something : bipolar
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      excuse me : Clay
      • you're probably right, but Led Zep did borrow others' musical styles to make some of its tracks : Postal
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  Thanks to this post i now hope Lindsey Lohan makes another cd and titles a song Know Your Enemy just to p... : boredguy
  • Writing a letter to her now : Ebu
  • I'm not pissed off at all. : Cihte
• I like Green Day's song more than RATM's. : mathyou
• Know Your Enemy isn't really the quintessential RATM track though. It's NOT like Nickelback naming a son... : Freon
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  seriously who cares? so many people are all crazy about 90s music and how awsome and complex it is b... : Geoff Jr.
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    I was agreeing with you but you got all jerky about it and now I'm just edging away. : Zero|DPX
    • the internet........serious buisness to some.......just a place to nonsensically rant for others : Geoff Jr.
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  also, RATM is the biggest band of whiney hippocrates ever HEY LETS SELL CRAPPY MUSIC TO THE MASSES T... : Geoff Jr.
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    I realize you have a little non-conformist shtick of your own going on, but using spellcheck would make i... : Felraiser
    • yeah im not too worried about anonymous people taking an non-serious post in a serious manner cuz i have ... : Geoff Jr.
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    i know this place doesn't always have the most intelligent discussion (re: this thread) but holy shit dud... : dahanese
    • This thread was brilliant. Well, the OP anyway. : Cihte
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      you cant tank absolute zero : Geoff Jr.
      • It's spelled, JEFF!!!! : Cihte

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  There we go, better late then never :P Gotta keep this bumped so people see it. : AgentPothead
  • i agree : Dschinghis Khan
• Awesome count me in : phokz
• Here we go, here we go, here we go again. : Alco23
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  Hallejfreakinlullah! Its Thursday. A evening of serious mirth where friends get together and put their ... : Lightzout
  • fire and dicks : .Jayson
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  Doh, hockey league starts this week and its on Thursdays. >:( : chungathebunga
  • I see you are going to take up yosemiteclimber's posting habit every Thursday from now on... :( : Alco23
• I think I need to go to the liquor store. : .frame
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  watch this sick ass sniper video to get you pumped http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdNcxMWHTAc : .Jayson
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    holy shit, no don't watch this video. oh god the editing. : Chepito.
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      well yeah, but I was referring to the gameplay : .Jayson
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        Aimbots are pretty sick ass. : Felraiser
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          Or if not an aimbot, a dot stuck in the middle of his screen would allow him to achieve most of the no-sc : Arctic Fox
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            I still don't understand why it's such a badge of honor to bad-mouth me in DoD:S. Anyway, what made me... : Felraiser
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              I'd say "if you don't understand the bad-mouthing then we can't help you" -- but that would be cruel. ... : Arctic Fox
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                Shack games are never especially serious, though, and yet it's never gotten to the point where people act... : Felraiser
                • *The sound of crickets*. : Alco23
                • Appropriate venue, appropriate time. If you want a serious discussion of a game, post it on the Shack the... : Arctic Fox
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                  Hahaha. Just keep on bein' man. I like you Fel but there are times I have to even tune you out occasio... : kainen1
                  • So, have you bought DoD:S yet? : Arctic Fox
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                    Fucking buy it for tonight asshole : H@rvester
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                      Nevermind just check your Steam gifts. : H@rvester
                      • Woot go Harvester, player of the week right here : Arctic Fox
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                        Holy fucking shit you weren't kidding! I could totally pump your butt right now <3 : kainen1
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                          DoD:S, getting people horny for buttsex since 2005 Wait what? : Arctic Fox
                          • FUCK, I came. : disposition
                      • how generous! : AlexXdude
                      • Good stuff H@rvester! Or should I say Hans, Hans Shoveler. :P : Alco23
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                        awesome Harvester! kainen1 you better fucking show or i will rape your face with a bag of dicks. : Dschinghis Khan
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                          I'd rather not come now : kainen1
                          • Well well, someone who prefers Khan's bag of dicks! : Alco23
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                    Yeah, as I said, I completely get it. It's just a little more intense in this particular game, and I'm tr... : Felraiser
                    • DoD Battles are 100 times more relaxed and 'fun for shits and giggles' than anything else we play. That ... : H@rvester
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              Re: the video, it's hard to conclude based on YouTube evidence alone. Hack together enough videos of me a... : Arctic Fox
              • The video looked like how I play non stop! : chungathebunga
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    or you could watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NetrA56gx8 : Dschinghis Khan
    • I like this better! : .Jayson
    • I really need to rewatch that movie. : sanchez
  • Anybody can look good if you just edit the hell out of it and keep only the cool shots. : K1Bond007
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  Has the sound pack been updated recently? I know some of the german voiceovers are in english and Alco wa... : H@rvester
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    If by Alco you mean me.... :) Nah I keep meaning to find some time to have a look at it. I want to add... : Arctic Fox
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      Ok I forgot who made it, I love it still, especially the winning music :) : H@rvester
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        One main thing has slowed me down: it's hard finding win music that is as awesome as Das Alles Ist Deutch : Arctic Fox
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          dude, Duu!! : Dschinghis Khan
          • shhhhhhhhh : Arctic Fox
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          New Allies Victory Music: Top Gun Theme : H@rvester
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            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCTJmXrgsFg Cut out the first 15 seconds then it gets awesome! : H@rvester
            • Hahahahaha nice. I thought you were going to post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPYF2p-cGx8 : Arctic Fox
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  I can't make it tonight, kid has her spring school performance. Fuckin kids, I'm gonna call her a fag >:( : yosemiteclimber
  • Dare you to stand up in the middle of the performance and chant "fag fag fag". Actually don't, we may ... : Alco23
  • call the person whoever scheduled the performance tonight a fag. The principal? fucking jerk >:( : Dschinghis Khan
• Evening BUMP for great justice : Arctic Fox

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• HI : boring gegtik
• Nice, those first two bullet points are awesome. : electroly
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  OSX version please : foo
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    Amiga version please : electroly
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      ENIAC version please : Ride-My-Rocket
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        Mark I version : themaestro2657
        • Abacus version. : elwood00
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    It's already at the point where random public people can build it, soon we hope to be at the point where ... : Zero|DPX
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      You always gotta start somewhere. :) I'm curious how well the tabs-on-the-top is going to work on the ... : electroly
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        if it's anything like safari 4, HORRIBLE. : manero
        • i'm sorry but those tabs blow ass : manero
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          Good thing Chrome's implementation of tabs is basically nothing like Safari. : electroly
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            Besides being placed on the top of the window, that is. Pretty much all other aspects of the tab impleme... : electroly
            • my main complaint is the topness : manero
        • I think Safari's are close to being good though. There are some weird usability issues for sure, but onc... : hawkeye
        • I'm running a chromium build for mac. Even in an unstable state, I like it better than safari 4. : wabut
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        safari 4 beta has tabs on top. It works fine, not to sure what you're getting at. : DogDharma
        • I'm getting at the fact that when you whip the cursor to the top of the screen, it hits the Mac menubar. ... : electroly
      • Yeah, but at least if we don't get that benefit, we're not actually making the tabs harder to target eith... : Zero|DPX
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  how is GSoC going? will you be mentoring? : jcupitt
  • Yes, I will. Student selections get announced in 4 days. : Zero|DPX
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  Do we have a time frame when the independent tabs will be out, nothing like having all your tabs frozen u... : mordaken
  • yeah the quasi-independence is a curious novelty to me, because when a process breaks everything still br... : Luminair
  • Tabs aren't independent when they need to be able to script each other. So if you have sites open tabs v... : Zero|DPX
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  How do I set the channel again? I use to be on Dev, but now I want to be on Beta. Wasn't there a tool or ... : Simulacrum
  • Nevermind, I just googled it. har har. : Simulacrum
• I recently switched to Chrome as my primary browser at home. It's great, I really love it. No major pro... : slickdoody
• That second bullet point bit me in the ass at least 10 times because I'm retarded : hawkeye
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  What are these from a few weeks ago? # New FTP implementation: use --new-ftp # Experimental Bookmark ... : hawkeye
  • Not sure if any of those are on by default yet, if not, then, well, they're what they say they are. Ne... : Zero|DPX
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  my Chrome is still broken. : Cihte
  • you did that yourself : WhatIsThisFor
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  Why don't you allow a setting that changes the new tab from Most visited to ... speed dial. Actually, it'... : K1Bond007
  • More customization of that page is an eventual goal, but this was the most pressing thing so we're trying... : Zero|DPX
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  Have you guys done any testing with Chrome + Ultramon? Ultramon adds a scretch horizontally and switch mo... : sanchez
  • Nope, we don't use Ultramon. Sorry. Fixes welcome, otherwise we probably won't get to it because there ... : Zero|DPX
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  Req: Image properties (namely pixel dimensions and filename) through right-clicking on an object. : Lone Swordsman
  • As a workaround, you can do "Inspect Element" and the height/width styles will be filled in regardless of... : electroly
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  Is the dev channel background updating now? I remember we used to have to force it by going to the about ... : InfoBiter
  • You've never* "had to" force things. Going to the About window does an immediate update check, but just ... : Zero|DPX
• did you crash gmail? : sammyl

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  Are the servers still down? I finished Drones V last night and queued up more stuff but capsuleer says I'... : Jonathan
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    Same story with Evemon. I think server is down. : mace
    • probably the Apocrypha 1.1 update : AlexXdude
  • Still ticking for me. Small energy turret 5 T-minus 1 day 20 hours. : jdmSlix
  • patching? : silent prophet
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    You train skills when servers are down. You just can't change them, so always put up a long skill queue. : Link.
    • I put a 3 day skill at the end of the list. : Jonathan
  • I find the API stuff is wonky on patch day. : r_picmip 5
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  I forgot how hard it was to fit smaller ships. I've been working on fitting a cruiser for playing around... : melkore
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    That's what happens. Train fitting skills like Weapon Upgrades/Electronics/etc. : Link.
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      Already at 5 for anything that cuts down cap/cpu usage. I even used EFT All Level 5 to see if it was pos... : melkore
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        Drop your 10mn mwd. Always drop the speed boosters on a DPS ship before guns. : Link.
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          I think I got it. I couldn't fit 3 200mm carbide rails, even with no mwd at all. I changed to dual 150mm... : melkore
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            You don't necessarily have to be cap stable, since you're not going to be lighting the mwd at all times. ... : Link.
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              How's this look? It's got some teeth and I can also help tackle if need be. [Vexor, PvP] 800mm Reinf... : melkore
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                Your choice, but I'd drop/downgrade some of the armor for 200mm railguns. If you're going to be at range... : Link.
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                  I learned the hard way yesterday that flying a close-range ship in a fleet op as a young character ----->... : ninj0rc
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                    Haha, yeah. Unless you're rich and going nuts with something like a Blaster Hyperion, close range is rare... : Link.
                    • I'm learning (slowly)...this is a big part of the reason I'm training to get into a Harbinger, and eventu... : ninj0rc
  • I'm in the same boat, I've been fitting pretty much nothing but battlecruisers and t2 stuff, and now that... : Finestaut
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  I downloaded the trial for this the other day but I'm yet to log in. I might hop on tonight depending on ... : marmite
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    Awesome! Make sure you join the shacknews channel. We are in several channels sometimes, so if we don'... : mace
    • I don't really know what that entails but I'm sure it will become clear once I've actually played the gam... : marmite
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    I am also really close to downloading a trial. Reading about all this chinese you guys write on here make... : chrisschutz
    • ok downloading now : chrisschutz
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  CEU was being their regular station docking/undocking selves when I logged off last night. I'm curious t... : r_picmip 5
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    those guys are ridiculous and i hate them : AlexXdude
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      Doesn't look like we faired well: http://ceu.griefwatch.net/?p=kills : r_picmip 5
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        What the fuck guys. The amount of destroyed BC/BS there is embarassing : AlexXdude
        • Geez, they just lost one BS and one BC, ouch. : one random winner
        • ........... : ninj0rc
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          No worries, it's just a matter of time at this point. Our revenge will be legendary involving a weeks vac... : mace
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            and a couple of hookers and a few bottles of JD? : AlexXdude
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              If those hookers want to log in as spies, sure. : mace
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                i just want hookers and bottles of JD is that such a bad thing mace : AlexXdude
                • No sir! And buddy, one day it will happen for you, I promise! : mace
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          Err... I don't see any BS losses for us on there...a couple BCs and some frigates. : fr0x
          • Hardly anything to be embarassed about all things considered. : ninj0rc
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      They're the biggest reason why I've not joined Photon. : Jonathan
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        I joined shortly after the war started and they weren't that much of an issue for me TBH. I couldn't do ... : Arcanum
        • CEU redeclared last night. : AlexXdude
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          Every time I read about wars starting I picture the Futurama clip: Sergeant: "Correct, there is no obl... : hoov1185
          • LOL I thought I was the only one that remembered that episode. : Clasifyd
      • and that's unfortunate. don't let sad bros with something macho to prove keep you from playing with shac... : Lunaran
      • If you're smart about it, you'll never/rarely encounter them. Goonswarm and their allies are fighting aga... : Link.
      • Unless you want to run missions and play in torrinos, you shouldn't really ever bump into them. I haven'... : fr0x
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  Is the server still down? I was getting the incompatible protocol error and deleted the eve folder as sug... : hoov1185
  • yeah I just checked and it's down for me too : AlexXdude
  • Down until around 12:15PM EST. : Link.
  • looks like they pushed the startup time to 1645, so another 20 min. or so : MisterPhoton
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  Internet Spaceships!!!! : hashd
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    Hashd! You're going through Hurricanes like they're Kleenex! : r_picmip 5
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      Fuck no shit man. I swear no matter how big the fleet is those bitches always target me first.... : hashd
      • maybe they like hash : trOmblyj
      • LOL, before I logged off, I remember you saying this same thing in corp chat! : mace
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        hey man, as long as you're having fun *shrugs* All the killboard whoring is pretty fucking hilarious ... : ninj0rc
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          Some corps are really hung up on it. It becomes their end game. I had a CEO rage on everyone on voice b... : r_picmip 5
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            *cough* CEU *cough* Seriously, those guys do nothing but link to their KB in Local chat. I just don't... : ninj0rc
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              on the flip side of that, killboards are the only real way to measure who is winning/losing a war because... : mindfk
              • *nods* I understand that, and I'm not saying that killboards are pointless or worthless or anything like ... : ninj0rc
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                Only if it's measured correctly. If CEU is blowing up all your cruisers and frigs, and you're blowing up ... : Link.
                • of course. it all comes down to the total isk loss for both sides, not just number of losses. : mindfk
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              insecurities. look at all the assault rifles and look-i-put-my-arm-around-a-hot-chick-once photos on the : Lunaran
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                Dude, you read my mind. I could not possibly agree more with you...the whole "war" is hilarious. : ninj0rc
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                  it's not really a "war" in the sense that it's a pissing match of honor or anything. CEU is just a typica... : mindfk
                  • the problem is that PHOTN as a whole lacks the front-end damage required to pop their ships before their ... : MisterPhoton
                  • You make a valid point, and for the most part I certainly do not hold their actions against them...if thi... : ninj0rc
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        youre in a big ship, OF COURSE YOU GET PRIMARY! : m0rfus
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          Haha yeah I know maybe I will start flying around in a cruiser instead lol. : hashd
          • You should get into a pimped out thorax or rupture and own the fuck out of them. : Link.
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      Speaking of Hurricanes, this; http://ceu.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1149 Is not a PvP fit. Eith... : Mr.Finkster
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        The environment in which we usually encounter CEU *does* lend itself to close range weapons (given their ... : ninj0rc
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          i don't have any real empire pvp experience, but can someone dock while being webbed/scrambled? : mindfk
          • They can dock so long as they have not committed an aggressive act in the last 60 seconds. So -- if the ... : ninj0rc
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          Yall should outfit yourselves with sniping gear and make them come to you. : one random winner
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            This won't work, since once they see you at long range they can just de-agress, re-dock, or just leave th... : Mr.Finkster
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              That's a good point...IF we started to get one of them into low armor/structure, he could just warp away ... : ninj0rc
              • Nm then. : one random winner
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                Also, unless you had a particularly large sniper fleet, I doubt you would have the dps to get them into a... : Mr.Finkster
                • *continues furiously taking notes* Thanks a ton dude :P : ninj0rc
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                Although if it's more about anoying them to the point they don't want to wardec you, this might work. : one random winner
                • Well, their war dec is now on the alliance of which we are a member, not PHOTN itself. : ninj0rc
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          Fleet combat is hundreds of people fighting for Sov in 0.0, with dedicated logistics, ewar and cap suppor... : Mr.Finkster
          • This is definitely worth a try...although one random winner's comment about making them come to us might ... : ninj0rc
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  i went broke buying skill books D: : cpt_gloval
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    1.) Learn skills 2.) Use skills to violently deprive others of their valuables 3.) ??? 4.) Repeat! : ninj0rc
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      3.) ??? 4.) Profit! 5.) Repeat Fixed it for ya. : one random winner
      • :P : ninj0rc
  • I had to buy a 10mil Cyno book the other day. :/ : Link.
  • Want to buy an ETC to sell for isk? : MisterPhoton
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    I hope you're buying them around Torrinos :D : r_picmip 5
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      What he means is DO NOT BUY THEM IN TORRINOS. Skill books are ridiculously inflated...you can find a boo... : ninj0rc
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        This is terrible advice! BUY MOAR!! I sell a lot of the books in Torrinos : r_picmip 5
        • *extorts r_picmip 5 for a cut of the profits, ELSE THE BEANS WILL BE SPILLED* oh wai- : ninj0rc
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        oh yeah, i ALWAYS look at the region prices on whatever i buy on market. in this case last night, i would... : cpt_gloval
        • Prices vary greatly from region to region on certain skillbooks : sanchez
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    defect, come to the dark side of the drone regions with NWS! : Joseph
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      NWS is where its at! : m0rfus
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        Indeed! : melkore
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          gloval was one of us before.... ...before he quit and got kicked for overly excessive inactivity : Reptile
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            "overly excessive inactivity" haha nice choice of words i figured i'd join NWS's sister corp, when we ... : cpt_gloval
            • Depending on your play schedule, I would've suggested that you team up with jo : Reptile
            • i, too, am playing catchup on skills, shooting cheating ass mwd'ing bship sized drones (which aren't supp... : Joseph
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  any reason i cannot find my comment to mace's comment about fits? : m0rfus
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    looks like it got nuked. look what i found last night! http://www.nsfng.com/nws/?a=kill_detail&kll_id... : mindfk
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      i love me some destroyers! i like those in fleet battles, but not smaller guerrilla style gangs. i had t... : m0rfus
      • yeah, i'm not exactly sure why he was salvaging wrecks with a bunch of skill books and implants in his ca... : mindfk
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  Hello Everyone, i am very interested in joining this EVE Online experience by which you all talk so hi... : Dr. Manatee PhD
  • spy : Majuju
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    application fee is ten million : Lunaran
    • :( ten million, I am but a lowly manatee. : Dr. Manatee PhD
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    I'm in a similar boat as Manatee, I'm just waiting to resub until after this week. I have a marginally... : MercFox1
    • Cool, Im a complete noob at this game, but all those vessels mentioned seem cool :P I just want to get in... : Dr. Manatee PhD
  • ..........wtf : ninj0rc
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    i'll give you a system to go to, if you can make it there alive, NWS will *consider* you. game? : m0rfus
    • lol, 'set up us the bomb' comes to mind : Joseph
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      or, if you want to play with the cool shackers, join PHOTN : mwasher
      • Sounds like a plan. : Dr. Manatee PhD
      • or, if you want to play with the cool shackers, join PHOTN oh? I thought you were still in PHOTN : Joseph
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      Sure. : Dr. Manatee PhD
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        LS-JEP : m0rfus
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          Alright, I'll try and fly there soon enough. : Dr. Manatee PhD
          • normally i'm not one to shit on other people's fun, but I think m0rfus is trying to get you killed in spe... : Joseph
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            Understand that m0rfus nor his character in any way represent the .NWS. corporation or any of its subsidi... : loboca
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              ...neither M0rfus... : loboca
              • lobo is correct. you really shouldnt listen to me at all. : m0rfus
            • Well then, I shall not fly to the designated location. : Dr. Manatee PhD
        • Loser Shackers - Just Eating Penis? HAH! : mwasher
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          Oh this wont end well. : hashd
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            i disagree friend! : mindfk
            • So evil! : hashd
  • Just make sure you do all the tutorial missions, then go to Torrinos. : menar003
• I'm downloading the patch as we speak. : ChibiJosh
• patch downloaded well, haven't bombed to desktop yet, nothing is smoking. all went well I think. I li... : Joseph
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  Shack new EVE players - Be Advised! I think there is an issue here and rather than let it fester lets ... : trOmblyj
  • Cool sounds logical. : Dr. Manatee PhD
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    just to clarify, there is no real "choosing sides" here because NWS has never and will never be noob frie... : mindfk
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      Is anyone in these threads really thinking they should join with NWS? I wouldn't let them - it's hardly f... : Jonathan
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        i don't think so, but trombly's post made it sound like there were two competing shack corps that noobs h... : mindfk
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          we just can't let that wierdass m0rfus guy in because he's ... oshi : Joseph
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            too late, i am a proud member of NWS and ooze asshattery. i never go against orders. NWS is only experien... : m0rfus
            • i dig your asshattery! I just like to pick on you. No need to take it personally, fartknocker! : Joseph
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      oh and this isn't to say that NWS isn't willing to recruit shackers, just that the requirements to do so ... : mindfk
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        For that I would also suggest being able to pilot a battleship comfortably. I ran a lot of missions and ... : melkore
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          yup. shouldn't even consider it unless you are comfortable tanking a triple BS rat spawn which either mea... : mindfk
          • in a cruiser : m0rfus
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      Understand that neither mindfk nor his character in any way represent the .NWS. corporation or any of it'... : loboca
      • what kind of lawyer-speak is this lobo : Goncyn
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        Fuck, now I'm more confused. I have a hard enough time identifying Photn shackers that use different n... : mace
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          m0rfus, mindfk, melkore, loboca, myself, reptile and others i'm probably forgetting cause i'm brain damag... : Joseph
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            !!MAY BE OUT OF DATE!!! * Captain Aeon * Unctom * Colonel Zang * Gonminerkin *... : m0rfus
            • yeah that's ancient : Goncyn
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              Fen was removed due to the fact he lives in empire and I didn't want people getting popped jbury was rem... : Reptile
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                I am no asshat! :( : zerog83
                • I said the good kind! : Reptile
          • me too! : sanchez
        • m0rfus, loboca, Reptile, melkore, mindfk, Joseph, Umbr. There are more, but I can't remember their shackn... : MisterPhoton
        • There are only 3 shackers that are Directors in .NWS. Reptile is CEO, and zen2k and myself are Direct... : loboca
        • to clarify, i am a member of NWS but hold no roles or leadership positions. like lobo said, just tryin... : mindfk
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        lobo is the XO and the LAW : m0rfus
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          No, I just don't understand where the change in ".NWS. doesn't talk smack" came from. : loboca
          • Special exception granted to linerifter : Reptile
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        Exactly, us peons are just letting people looking to join to know what they are getting in to before comi... : melkore
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          or reptile. : mindfk
          • snake? SSSSSNNNNNNNAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEEE!? : one random winner
          • I was told that was required... : melkore
  • Yeah pretty much my thoughts. Which is a shame. : Jonathan
  • thanks for the advice. : chrisschutz
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    I would actually recommend trying to get with Eve University for absolute beginners and get some training... : melkore
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      Listen to this man!!! EVE-U is a great place to start. I think everyone should join EVE-U at the start... : Modica Sol Solis
      • Thought they shutdown or am I thinking a different noob training group? : Reptile
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    I disagree a little, but only because I think some of the newer players are thriving and learning faster ... : ejectorpod
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      I'm not advocating they not join a corp - just saying play for a few days first. The thought that someon... : trOmblyj
      • very true. : mindfk
    • the trial by fire can be harsh, but it does seem like the greenest players are picking up a lot faster th... : Joseph
  • thats what i'm doing. i just hang in the shack channel while i get better and skill up. i'm still a noob.... : whereiwannab
  • New people can join Giant Communist Robots which loboca has control over via an alt. There is pretty muc... : semaphore
  • Good advice, sad that most probably won't follow it : Reptile
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    For those of us shackhype succumbed saps interested in running with Photon, what is the best way to gauge... : Hyper-r3v
    • Before the move to 0.0 and wardec.....I would've said 3-8hrs after starting the game Now? maybe a coup... : Reptile
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      When you can A) Afford to purchase a clone with enough skill points to cover your character, and B) W... : trOmblyj
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        When you say purchase a clone are you referring to the SP clone upgrade packages, or are you referring to... : Hyper-r3v
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          no...game gives you a default clone for 900k SP, you have to upgrade that one when you go beyond 1mill SP... : m0rfus
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            Yeah, I understand that part of it but I have a ways to go before 900k. I guess what I should have asked ... : Hyper-r3v
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              You have to purchase a new one every time you "use" one. Jump clones are a different matter all together... : r_picmip 5
              • Alright, thanks! I had been wondering about that since I first saw that upgrade screen. : Hyper-r3v
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              if you get podded without a 'dictor being involved in the fight you're doing it wrong. you should know yo... : mindfk
              • this one time...at space camp...i was getting podded by some girls...and i forgot to align correctly. i w... : m0rfus
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          Correct SP Clone Upgrade packages. : trOmblyj
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            OK, so the upgrades in that neighborhood seem super cheap to me. Is the implication of A) also that I sho... : Hyper-r3v
            • Leave a good buffer so you don't have to constantly check on it. As mindfk said, you shouldn't be podded... : r_picmip 5
        • We're primarily a mining corp, and I'm sure the more miners the happier MisterPhoton will be. There'... : r_picmip 5
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    As a newer member of Photon with a low skill/isk character I disagree. The corp experience, members, comm... : cdbeckman
    • this is why these threads should never stop. : m0rfus
  • I giggle at how huffy mmo players can be ;) : packav
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  Is there a way I can try this game for free without paying for software or subscription or anything for a... : amrbean
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    sm me your email and i will hook u up with a 21 day trial. : ejectorpod
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      NO SEND IT TO ME NOT EJECTORPOD : MisterPhoton
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        First come, first serve. : amrbean
        • that's right I ALWAYS come first...wait, what. it's sent! : ejectorpod
  • sure, SM me your email address and I'll send you a buddy key : MisterPhoton
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  Well, I was online late late last night as usual, and once, again, nothing happened! : Juno
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    Are you sitting in the station spinning your ship? Get out there and explore :) : r_picmip 5
    • sitting around? hell no! I'm an important man, with things to do! I've got so many skill books to hunt do... : Juno
  • Hey Juno, I am also a late night player if it will make you feel any less lonely. Plus I have next to no ... : Hyper-r3v
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  Hey guys I just found an 8/10 complex in our system in nullsec. Two questions: 1) How hard is an 8/10 ... : MisterPhoton
  • Got logistics ships? I solo'd (meaning myself+alts) a 10/10 but just didn't have enough dps for the fi... : Reptile
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    3) How quickly do these respawn? : mace
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      Not a static plex Basically you run that sucker today or it might be gone (think there is roughly a 48... : Reptile
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        Additional: DO NOT MENTION IT IN ALLIANCE/INTEL CHAT : Reptile
        • Good info, thanks. : mace
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          heh, don't worry I won't. We're rushing to do it ASAP because there are some blues that like to come thro... : MisterPhoton
          • That was meant moreso for your members that don't know better : Reptile
  • I would be game but I am at work for at least another 2 1/2 hours :( : hashd
  • Very cool - I should be game but not until at least 7PM eastern. : trOmblyj
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    IGI! : BongSlayerB
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      damn patch day :( is this the one where they nerf the stealth bomber? : BongSlayerB
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        wow, ok, maybe not nerfed lol : BongSlayerB
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          Oh, its a nerf too : Reptile
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            The nerf that smells like a buff! : Majuju
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              Kinda sorta What they don't list is the recloak timer Which was 30s last time I tested it on sisi : Reptile
              • ICKY! You have to pull your pants down and expose your naked buttocks for 30 seconds before you can pu... : Finestaut
          • but it can finally use the cov-ops cloak, which is handy, but makes my Heilos less important. : BongSlayerB
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            For those too lazy to read patch notes: Stealth Bombers have had their role refocused to be anti-battl... : Finestaut
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              yeah, ditto on the torpedo thing. I think I'm going with siege missiles. : BongSlayerB
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                Siege missiles? No such thing. Siege missile launchers are torpedo bays. Torpedos are the battleship... : Finestaut
                • The nice thing about this is (I guess) you can now fit 3 torpedo bays and 2 bomb launchers at the same ti... : Finestaut
            • this. makes. me. so. fucking HAPPY! : m0rfus
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              This gives me some nasty ideas for ways to use stealth bombers in fleet engagements. : Arcanum
              • Posted on the PHOTN boards, in case this is actually a decent idea. http://www.photon-ventures.com/forum... : Arcanum
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              man I am gonna start selling bomber hulls, I'm gonna get SPACE RICH offa all these people thinking they c... : Majuju
              • I've sold 30 Torpedo and Torpedo Specialization books out of Torrinos in the last 24 hours. Looks like i... : r_picmip 5
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                but, majuju, i can make them work. :D : m0rfus
                • and I can make your ISK work! : Majuju
      • they nerfed my Falcon :( : MisterPhoton
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    fuckkkkk we went into the first room of the complex, me in my uber Raven, Nemetes in his Typhoon, and Kal... : MisterPhoton
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      damn...maybe we need to throw more ships at em' (still patching) : BongSlayerB
      • Almost time for me to get off work 40 more minutes! : hashd
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        still need something with a tank that isn't going to break. that is most easily accomplished with logisti... : mindfk
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          Are there specific ships that are logistic ships, or normal ships fitted with reppers, etc? : mace
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            <points to the ship section called logistics> There are some T1 cruisers that are ok for it as well B... : Reptile
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              LOL, I even looked in EFT before posting and completely missed it. : mace
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                i can help you with logistics fits mace. you basically need to think of yourself as a huge ass battery. : m0rfus
                • Sir, that's how I think of myself every day of the week! : mace
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      why would you go into an 8/10 with just those 3 ships? : zerog83
      • it sounded fun? : ejectorpod
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        wanted to see what was inside of it. considering I'm pretty sure no one in our corp can fly logistics, it... : MisterPhoton
        • could try with a heavy buffer tank raven + ospreys watching your ass and each other's ass watchlist is... : Reptile
    • One bad thing happened. I BLEW ONE FUCKER UP BEFORE RUNNING AWAY. : ejectorpod
    • That would be why I said LOGISTICS ships :) : Reptile
    • heh yeah that's not going to do it for an 8/10 unfortunately. gonna need some kind of logistics to make i... : mindfk
    • Damn, I still have 1 hour until I am off! : mace
    • Have some ospreys warp in and start shield transporting right after you get aggro, Also if you have some... : semaphore
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      Nemetes went and got something with a bigger buffer tank and we switched off warping out to clear aggro w... : MisterPhoton
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        WHO NEEDS FUCKING LOGISTICS! : ejectorpod
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          you after the first room. =p : mindfk
          • Stop reading my mind! : Reptile
          • There's no rooms in space! thats crazy talk! : jonin
          • one room is all i needed for mad cash! : ejectorpod
          • lol yeah. I'm going to see if one of the corp members with an industrial can pick up my osprey and bring ... : MisterPhoton
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            that's room ONE dude. im stuck at work...otherwise i'd come *help* you. : m0rfus
            • I politely decline your offer for help. : ejectorpod
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            Who needs logistics cruisers when you can use...LOGISTICS BATTLESHIPS! : MisterPhoton
            • (I put some shield reppers on my raven so I could rep nemetes's shield) : MisterPhoton
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  Is there any way that someone could Photoshop this image? Perhaps a dong in place of the beer, and a nic... : ninj0rc
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    Bah, that's the wrong image...the one I'm referring to is the dude with the constipated look on his face ... : ninj0rc
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      heh thats the guy that likes losing t2 ships. : mindfk
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        *nods* I would really like to have a doctored version of this image to post in Local when he starts smack... : ninj0rc
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          Just don't smack back in local. Two guys talking smack in local look like a couple of jackasses, one guy... : Finestaut
          • it takes a certain degree of finesse' and can be quite hilarious : m0rfus
          • Oh I don't participate on the shit-talking by any means...the most I contribute is the occasional barbed ... : ninj0rc
• I really want to resub my Eve account, I just don't have the time it takes to play :( makes me sad. : BingusLargus
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  EVE interface question: Is it possible to link bookmarks of specific coordinates within a system into a ... : Arcanum
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    No. You can move a bookmark into your cargohold and jettison it for someone else to pick up. Or you can... : semaphore
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      A widget that can transmit detected objects to other ships in the fleet? : Arcanum
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        Are you asking if there is one? No, there isn't. They can fleet up with you and can then choose to ... : r_picmip 5
        • Yeah, I was wondering if there was one. Warping to a fleet member isn't quite what I wanted. : Arcanum
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        what exactly is it you're trying to do? if you're talking about one person locating an enemy ship and ... : mindfk
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          http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19692188#itemanchor_19692188 : Arcanum
          • ok well we don't have access to your boards so *shrug* : mindfk
          • i'd love to hear your ideas. /grin : m0rfus