Left 4 Dead Survival Pack Release Dated

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  while that sounds all good, community maps will end up being nowhere near as good as the Valve maps as th... : churgen
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    There are some pretty good community mappers out there. And even if they're maps aren't the greatest, it... : JediDwag
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      yeah, while I don't think campaign mode will be as good, if survival mode turns out to be really fun, the... : churgen
      • oh man, i'd love to see an example of having to sacrifice a player in order to save the other 3. Feed Fra... : Cihte
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      will these community maps be selectable from within the lobby?? : Cihte
      • valve said they would. : coolbreezr
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    Some of the best TF2 maps came from the community, along with CS and other valve games. Also, what a... : deathofrats
    • I wouldn't say best. But the few out in the wild are close. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I get your point, and I agree with the voices, but maybe Valve will pick up the best community maps and a... : Snipergen
  • thank you Nostradamus : kainen1

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  I hope it doesn't come out soon... the last thing I want is for people to break the game and get sick of ... : Jobos
  • What about campaigns? Dawn of the Dead is ready to go! : YummiGummi
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    I agree vehemently with Jobos. The custom maps for L4D look incredibly fucking boring and I'd rather not ... : A Trusted Friend
    • Correction: None of them SEEM to get. : A Trusted Friend
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      So because you don't like a custom map made to recreate a famous movie location that you have not even pl... : Wisp!
      • "So because you don't like a custom map" Should be "So because you don't like any of the custom map... : A Trusted Friend
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      Hrmm...the terminal level in Dead Air is essentially a big shopping mall. It's got large open areas, lon... : warthog
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        It's not and it's the easiest example to demonstrate my point. While it overall feels as if it's a large ... : A Trusted Friend
        • I don't see how it's not. Think about the horde battle in the large open square. Or the metal detector ... : warthog
    • Dude you dont know what you are talking about. Some of the customs out there look far more interesting t... : kainen1
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  I suspect Valve does not want to release the SDK yet because people would use it to haphazardly modify th... : booyaka
  • pro-tip: they're already available and while not polished, work quite well for the most part. we've been ... : yacoub35
  • hahaha, we have been playing those for months now and they work fine sans very minor clipping issues on b... : kainen1

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• You are all alone on this one. : freakynipples69
• SDK is coming soon, and that's about all we know at this point. : Chris Faylor
• *crickets* : watcherxp
• played the game almost everyday since its been released....i cant agree with you there. : i poop from there
• I couldn't disagree more. : niceguynick
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  It's like CS, alot of people like it and it's not for everyone. : Pneum0
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    on top of that, people mostly play the same 2 or 3 maps over and over and over in CS, at least in L4D you... : brainchild420
    • I don't play CSS, but I know enough about it to point out a few other differences: - you are versing o... : Mystery0000
• What about all the gamers who've made it out to be replayable? : DinK
• I agree. I have been playing TF2 since release, largely due to the flood of new maps that have been made... : WhatIsThisFor
• L4d is extremtely replayable. : matrixneo42
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  I'm about 100+ hours into it with no sign of slowing down... : Jobos
  • I've put 10 hr in this week along with playing the heck out of DoW II and my new copy of Sins. L4D is th... : IHATEDUST
• I'm a L4D whore. I have 3 games I've bought on steam I haven't even touched because of this wretched game... : YummiGummi
• You're not alone. I do want tactical choices, relative freedom, and more horror/tension. : T-900
• That's nice, next. I want the SDK too but I think the game is very replayable. : kainen1

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  Given how the campaigns have been created, I can definitely see why it would take a significantly longer ... : RomSteady
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    I completely understand that, and I am sure they are in development. It would be nice to have any assura... : manlyman
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      Two more campaigns for VS sounds like the bomb to me. The first two are still fun as hell with good frien... : FusionJunky
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        Yup, exactly. This is a great start, moar plz. : node
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          Its two campaigns that are already in the game, its really bullshit that they were not in the retail rele... : manlyman
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            you also aren't paying for it, so you have no right to complain. classifying this as DLC is silly anyw... : brainchild420
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              Can't complain because it's free? Bullshit. This is a multiplayer only game that people bought with the e... : synapse19
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                there was no miscommunication on how many campaigns were playable at launch(and you bought it understandi... : brainchild420
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                  Did you completely miss the point on purpose? : synapse19
                  • This is a multiplayer only game that people bought with the expectation that there would be added content : brainchild420
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                It's not 2 vs maps. It's 2 vs campaigns. About 10 total maps. Each vs campaign takes about 90min - 2hours... : Cihte
                • also, each map, or section, or a campaign is usually bigger and more detailed than average multiplayer fp... : Cihte
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                  CoD4 is not an MP only game. : synapse19
                  • versus is not the only game mode either. L4D launched with 20 playable maps, and 10 playable in a second ... : brainchild420
              • It isn't multiplayer only. What was released definitely was great value for the buck. Especially consid... : matrixneo42
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                Don't you mean TEN versus maps? It bothers the shit out of me when people bitch about the "two vs maps" w... : Rooster Cockburn
                • dude i already said that don't be stealin' my points its whack : Cihte
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            In an alternate time-line, Valve post-pones release of the game to ensure inclusion of all 4 co-op maps a... : TrickSh0t
            • seriously, i can't imagine having to wait this long for left4dead. the 2 vs. modes have kept me plenty e... : ermac
            • In an alternate time-line, Daikatana was good too, I would have liked them to delay it to include all of ... : Durajim
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              Dead Air and Death Toll are already playable as VS. maps by basically simply copying and renaming the fil... : synapse19
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                ... roofs are also missing. The maps can be played, but they're far from balanced and I'm sure this relea... : Cihte
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                  There's 1 missing roof that really just looks like a texture error on Death Toll and a simple clipping is... : synapse19
                  • blood harvest/no mercy have been tweaked in many places in order to balance it. i'm hoping there will be... : ermac
• Sums up my feeling. I bought it on the assumption that the main failing of the game - lack of maps - woul... : ihya
• Dude. FREE. And new content. And new modes. And new vs capability for stuff we already had. Did I me... : matrixneo42
• Well, it took some 3-4 years to make 4 levels, it'll probably take another 10-12 months to make one more,... : Jobos
• They must have the slowest modelling and texturing team in the world. Assets are easily created and I kno... : jjjapan

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  AvP2 needs to be on GoG.com : freakynipples69
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    More like AvP with fixed menus please! : node
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      AvP > AvP2 The first AvP is so much better than the second one. I'm quite happy that Rebellion is making... : jccalhoun
      • I still say the 2nd one was way more technically polished, but the level design was kind of...stilted...... : AxeMan808

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  What does Hitler have to do with this? : airmaus
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    oh no they're on to me : brainchild420
    • ..Least I got chicken. : fade2black244
• High five! : FusionJunky

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• Didn't Valve call it lighthouse originally? People were calling it lighthouse before they knew it had any... : Durajim
• So... who the fuck cares? People can call it whatever as long as people know what is being referred to. I... : f1kt1t1ous

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• Left 3 Dead : Pneum0
• The friendly AI does piss me off as infected. They'll do stuff like shoot you through trees, see with eye... : node
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  My complain is not being able to just do matches on one side. I like doing infected. When I click quick... : handofthrawn
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    People who only play as infected make the game worse for everyone else. If you can't be bothered to play ... : Rooster Cockburn
    • agreed. Take your turn for Fuck's sake. We all like infected too, and we'll "suffer" through the survivor... : vertdang
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  the reason you need them is that it's very easy for 2 people to get pounced/smoked at the same time, wher... : brainchild420
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    Re-read what I wrote the come back and reply again! :) : eonix
    • i understand that you would want it balanced for 2 players, but seriously are you going to have any fun f... : brainchild420
    • Oh so you only want 1 special infected at one time? You have bad ideas and should remain quiet knowing... : A Trusted Friend
• Just kill the AI. : S1ing B1ade
• yeah there's no way that would work. it isn't a case of changing difficulty depending on the amount of p... : ermac

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  You didn't like the game play modes? And the "Survival" mode is the reason you're picking it up? Co... : Tauru
  • Just let 'em have it. It makes them feel better to contribute to the thread. :) : TrickSh0t
• Do you like coop? Because it does coop better than any other game to date. : matrixneo42

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  I'm reasonably certain the AI responds to the "Let's go" voice command. They seem to jerk into life and d... : Alice O'Connor
  • it seems since the last patch the Ai likes to just run away in VS mode. It's rediculous :( : brainchild420
  • Agreed. The voice command "Hurry" works wonders too. One human calling Hurry to three bots will make them... : Rooster Cockburn