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  this should be nominated for some kind of award : Degenerate
  • he's almost to dognose levels he is he is : RikiTiki2
• I'll watch anything you put on YouTube. : Bull
• I think you MAY have played through that before. : Super Sparker
• I would like to subscribe to your newsletter : r3dn3ck
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  wow, that game looks fun! I think I'd like to play it! : PapaBoo
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    get the one on XBLA. you could probably get some shackers to coop with you : dantastic
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      I'm going to get a points card tonight at BB, so that will be my first purchase. : PapaBoo
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        why not just buy them through the console or the xbox live marketplace site? what's the point of going a... : dantastic
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          because I always make bad gaming decisions. : PapaBoo
          • its only worth buying from the store when the points cards are on sale. otherwise avoid typing in the co... : dantastic
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  Man, that game came out a long time ago. This sequel is taking a long time. : Mrc32
  • apples are red : dantastic
• i always wanted to coop on this and shadow warrior.. ahh those were the days.. only if they had good mult... : SoNiC :<
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  First time I've seen Duke 3D since I played it once when it was new. I just never saw the attraction of ... : Saman
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    http://degenerate.shackspace.com/Shack/stewie2.gif : Degenerate
    • driving panda still wins : RikiTiki2
    • hahahaha : Dschinghis Khan
    • hahaha perfect : manero
    • HAHAHAHA! : Super Sparker
    • This is the best response! I had forgotten about that picture :D : Demius
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      Dude! I made that! Not the original mind you, but I added the text. : Omaha
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        Dear Omaha, I love you and have used your humorous animated Graphics Interchange Format file on many o... : Degenerate
        • Dear Degenerate, That is awesome. Keep on keepin' on! Love, Omaha : Omaha
  • ... : Fyunch Click
  • Never post again about anything gaming-related. : FlatlineDixay
  • You Gotta Pay The Troll Toll To Get Into The Boys Hole : get_navi
• I tried to count how many pig cops you killed but there were just so many I lost count. It's all very imp... : A Sponge
• Impwessive. : ImageOmega
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  Thank you for posting this CrustaR, I hate PigCops so much :( : dognose
  • they really are the scourge of the universe. >:( http://www.duke4.net/images/fanart/tas/1.jpg : Degenerate
• i get so motion sick when i watch other people play FPS games, especially in that sort of frantic movemen... : Korban
• CrustaR that 0wned! we need to play some GTA4 again : oHnOES
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  That is one thing you don't see anymore - that first level can be played so many ways. I would always go ... : TroZ
  • I played that level so many times when all I had to play was the shareware version. :| : CrustaR
  • It was a helluva level. I don't think all of the later levels lived up to the high expectations set by th... : FlatlineDixay
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  is that a ported version like rancidmeat or janoF or is it the one that just released? : SoNiC :<
  • eDuke32.exe renamed to Duke3d.exe. It's the only one with proper mouselook. : CrustaR
• nice FPS skills ! : mXENO
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  steroids crustar, really? i thought you were better than that. :( : Audhuml4
  • It sounds like he's constantly swallowing when you use the steroids. :| : CrustaR
• Balls of steeeeel. : DrWaffles
• Wow you play this game with style : OverloadUT
• Haha...I forgot how much he talks in this game. : CapnChaos
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  I like that fact you were playing at the "Come Get Some" difficulty level! : cjcharv
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    I have never tried the highest difficulty before. I think I remember it being stupid hard like nightmare... : CrustaR
    • hard game club member my ass : mwasher
• that bring back memories... that opening level is one of the best MP maps ever, my friend and I would pla... : tunis5000
• Hail the the CrustaR : twifosp
• excellent work, CrustaR! there aren't enough Duke3d.exe videos on YouTube : Mmmmmoo
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  Shit blows up! : sanchez
  • dognose, I agree! : CrustaR
• brings back good memories of playing modem-to-modem with my friend up the street back in hs : yacoub35
• I love you. Awesome video. : coolbreezr
• this was awesome and sweet : Downforce
• CrustaR, thank you for this. I last played Duke3d.exe probably 8 years ago on my friend's Packard Bell. W... : packav
• damn, i forgot how cool that game was. : sammyl
• This is crazy!!! I loved it! There's nothing like Duke3D... : monchipeters

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• I think it's going to be a big update. They're feeling the heat from the Pre. : Deathlove
• I don't mind the lack of MMS, but it's fucking stupid not to have it in a coded URL. I can't wait till m... : JT
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  I think yes to copy&paste, no to a lot of other things like MMS, background apps, etc. I wouldnt be surpr... : Maarten Goldstein
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    I don't imagine them hyping this up to just announce c&p support. They must have a pretty decent amount o... : re4ctor
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      Oh I think there will be a good amount of new features and updates, just not people's wish lists. : Maarten Goldstein
      • oh yeah, that's entirely possible haha... : re4ctor
      • stupid refresh >:( : Korban
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      Any chance of a higher capacity iphone/ipod being announced? I still really want to see a 64 gig version ... : re-verse
      • you and me both, friend, you and me both. : Deathlove
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        if the prices of SSDs are coming down, i don't see why you wouldn't. then again... i don't know anything... : Korban
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          SSD prices are dropping like mad. Apple have been dragging their feet up upgrades to size though :( I mea... : re-verse
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            i don't even fill up my 8GB iPhone, i can't picture filling up 80GB and thinking i need more space. : Korban
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              My 60gb is full of music. If I had more room, I'd put more on. I think the difference is some people p... : re-verse
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                hmm, that makes sense. i only check songs that i know i wanna hear while at work. never really thought ... : Korban
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                  Me too, but i think our spans of variety vary. I'll get really in to an artist for a few days, and want t... : re-verse
                  • ah, i get a new favorite song maybe 3 times a week. it because my first picked song when working and the... : Korban
      • why not, but I'd be fucking pissed if the upgraded the touch now :( : rookieone
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      they'll definitely have a ton of updates, but a good majority of them will probably be things you'd NEVER... : Korban
      • hate to say it, but this is definitely going to be it. they're all cocksmokers : freakord
    • New SDK features would be cool as well (like letting devs access the stored music/videos on the iphone) : Horn
  • I really wish they had background stuff for the gps. or at least the ability to push/pull at will : hamachi
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  i stopped at the apple store the other day and asked 2 salesmen the diff between the iphone and G1 - the ... : dignan
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    it can help you figure out the tip! it's a tip calculator! : Korban
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      I don't understand how people cannot calculate 15% in their head. $47 check 10% is 4.70 half of that... : mancide
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        Whoa...I just do 20% (which is a good tip and much easier to calculate in your head!). : ImageOmega
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          I used to, but lately I've just went back to 15% because I feel like I was being too generous most of the... : mancide
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            iphone thread derailed by tip thread! i generally just double the tax (8.25%). how's that for fancy... : dopeman
            • why not just tip based on the service? fuck some arbitrary %'d #. or tip based on how big her tits are ... : dignan
      • haha usually its more liek "47 check... move dec over one = $4.. now add a buck and you have a $5 tip" :(... : Demius
    • Lets round down... god forbid they should refil the water. : Demius
    • It does other things! : emcea
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    The only reason the G1 doesn't have multi-touch is because Apple asked them to not do it and Google agree... : mancide
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      Was that ever confirmed, or just speculated? : liqker
      • BO is going to ask Iran to not kill Israel... mmmk and they will do it : conandan
      • I think it was somewhat confirmed because didn't a third-party branch get it working? : mancide
      • confirmed. someone found the code commented out : retarded talking dinosaur
    • why would google agree to that? : papaskot
  • um easy $200 : get_navi
  • those guys are obviously uninformed : Yanks
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  I am guessing we will see a new mobile app/music store. : byorn
  • that'd be nice, to see them both in the same app and organized much more like iTunes Store than the curre... : Korban
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  So what do you guys think: will 3.0 be as big of an announcement as 2.0 was? : byorn
  • 50% bigger! : losimagic
  • I doubt it. The app store was pretty huge. : Horn
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    last year i think 3G was the big thing. i'm wondering if they've got a new hardware update or if it's ju... : Korban
    • There is a new model number floating around, but I would be willing to bet it's either a larger capacity ... : mancide
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  where can i watch this shitshow unfold live? : get_navi
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    Gizmodo Liveblog: http://i.gizmodo.com/5170767/iphone-os-30-liveblog-starts-now : Korban
    • Thanks Korban! : get_navi
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  I just fucking jailbroke my phone a week ago and now this :( I couldn't give a rat's ass about C&P (th... : hawkeye
  • it'll get cracked soon enough : Mr.SEX
  • leprechaun service! that sounds fantastic. i wonder if our leprechauns would fight. i hear they are scrap... : laurgasms
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  Copy paste is already there if you install the Clippy app. So it's not like they be bringing a big inno... : doomed
  • Has apple ever? : rosewood
  • not everyone wants to jailbreak : Chandler55
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  Ability to do a search for music! : rosewood
  • Winner, winner, chicken dinner! : rosewood
• I don't think we'll see tons of changes on the front end, I'm willing to bet this will make dev's excited... : jingletard
• oh gees, 40 minutes to go and someone already pulled the alarm. luckily everyone's back inside now. let... : Korban
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  This announcement is only about the OS, correct? : WhatIsThisFor
  • yes, not hardware : Maarten Goldstein
  • This reply needs more love, the OP makes it seem like there will be a new peice of hardware. This is iPh... : crimrOw
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  Are there any leaks? : davidc02
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    dood, 24 minutes left... : Korban
    • hahaha I know... : davidc02
  • Yeah - yesterday http://i.gizmodo.com/5170262/kevin-rose-dishes-iphone-30-rumors-cut-and-paste-feature... : Schnapple
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  Vote for Top issues that need fixing http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/ : AltZero
  • would apple ever listen to an internet petition? : hamachi
  • omg if I vote soon enough do you think Apple will change the prepared list of features because of my vote... : DapperDan
  • lol like they pay attention : manero
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    #7 Full Arabic Support Really? : Schnapple
    • (that it's as high as #7) : Schnapple
  • Obviously it will not directly change anything for 3.0 or possibly any other release, but nice to see wha... : AltZero
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  The one HUGE advantage Blackberry still has over iphone are the background IM apps. If apple was smart, ... : Edges
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    I imagine there was quite a bit of OS work they needed to do to get it working in 3.0. : Kentor
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      they could release their own chat software à la iChat mobile that can run in the background much like iT... : rookieone
      • For good reason as well. Their current memory manager does not have ANY swapping hence running out of mem... : Kentor
  • Push is supposedly actually coming this time, so that'll solve that problem. : DOOManiac
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  New Springboard. Trust me! : -sk-
  • new springboard with folders/categories would be pretty cool. I'm up to 4 pages and thats after some spr... : Horn
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    wait, what's springboard? is that the app bar at the bottom of the screen? : Korban
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      Springboard is what you see on the main screen. : -sk-
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        oh, so it's basically the GUI of the OS : Korban
        • What sk mean is the home screen, or "desktop". The one w/ all the icons. : DOOManiac
    • Springboard is the software that manages the main screen icons, and background and all that stuff. : sigpro
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  anyone going to have a feed for the new info that will be coming out? macworld.com maybe? : conandan
  • FEED: http://www.macworld.com/article/139401/2009/03/appleevent.html?lsrc=top_1 : conandan
• A2DP Bluetooth Profile.. please.... : braker
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  why cant apple just do this at CTIA like everyone else? : retarded talking dinosaur
  • They can make announcements in their own controlled environment on their own terms and everyone drops eve... : rossimo
  • Present Different : DapperDan
• lol, DLC : losimagic
• I can't wait to be nickled and dimed now for updates to apps. : Horn
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  hurray for DLC on the iPhone now. : pancake humper
  • lol Apple is also double dipping now too! : pancake humper
• Now with support to intrusively nickel and dime you!!! : Cheeziologist
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  P2P via Bluetooth is kind of neat. : hawkeye
  • I love how they use the example of sharing a contact which you could do with really old palm pilots years... : Cheeziologist
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    Though it seems weird that it's Bluetooth and not WiFi. Security concerns? : exigence7
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      Better battery usage if I had to guess. : hawkeye
      • Probably not since they're also getting big on video streaming... : DOOManiac
    • bluetooth comes ready for the p2p thing nokia phones from 5 years ago do that (contact transfer via BT... : doomed
• Apps are gonna have DLC now? So gay and awesome at the same time. : Edges
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  This Accessories thing seems pretty cool. : TastyWheat
  • HMMMMM yes it does! Looks like there's a lot of potential for fitness apps. : Bamtan
• all they need is a detachable cylinder that has flashing red lights and the iPhone can become a tricorder : Cheeziologist
• Does this mean Also enabling some of this over Bluetooth. "We support all the standard built-in protocols : Horn
• Give us latitude. : davidc02
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  real-time feed at http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/03/live-ars-technica-coverage-of-apples-iphone-o... : Mmmmmoo
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    i'm watching the engadget coverage : Cheeziologist
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      link? : davidc02
      • http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/ : Cheeziologist
• fucking finally a google maps API : mikecyb
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  speech for turn by turn directions would be sweet : vynn
  • "Now there is one catch -- bring your own maps. Due to licensing, we can't use those tiles in maps." So t... : Schnapple
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  hey maybe we're getting push after all! : Horn
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    Push just means less focus on background apps :( : Edges
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      The phone doesn't have enough ram to do proper backgrounding it seems. I doubt we'll see it until there'... : Horn
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        push notifications should handle about 80% of the background needs of most apps though, don't you think? : mindfk
        • Oh I'm not complaining about it. I doubt I'd use backgrounding that much anyways. Push should cover eve... : Horn
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        I've been told that backgrounding existed when the iPhone was in beta, but was removed on release. : Arcanum
        • Apple apps run in the background, and jailbroken apps have this capability too. It's just the public SDK ... : DOOManiac
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  Turn By Turn \o/\o/\o/ : TastyWheat
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    PUSH : TastyWheat
    • what is push? : dignan
• turn by turn GPS and push, finally! : MikkleThePickle
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  PUUUUUUUUUSH!!!! : g0nk
  • HAAARRRDDDEERR : Mmmmmoo
  • AH, PUSH IT. PUSH IT REAL GOOD. : TreMetal
  • PUSHH PUSSH ME PUSH ME : doomed
• I've had a google finance window for PALM up through all of this, and PALM stock has been flat to up duri... : Cheeziologist
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  what's a data detector? : Mmmmmoo
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    know how you can tap on a phone number in Safari, or something like that and hit call? That. : Yanks
    • neat : Mmmmmoo
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  "We were asked, why don't you do background processing? It's bad for the customer. It drains battery. ... : Schnapple
  • Some apps run in the background, yes, and the performance does drop. : davidc02
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    ......... it should always be the user's choice. this is the kind of thinking which makes me hate apple. ... : retarded talking dinosaur
    • on the other hand if they do put it out there and apps don't play nicely with it, apple will get blamed. : Horn
    • And they're thinking just like Nintendo has all these years. Everyone wanted a backlit screen. Nintendo w... : Schnapple
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    There's a jailbreak app that will background any app. The thing that really annoys me about no backgroun... : hawkeye
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      yep. but those are the only apps i can think of that would honestly need backgrounding that aren't also c... : mindfk
      • Oh I totally agree that Push solves most of the background use cases. : hawkeye
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    lol meanwhile I have 3 different browsers and various other things running on my Touch and my battery run... : DarkWolf5
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      Your touch doesn't have 3G and GPS, the main battery drainers : Schnapple
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        Mine has both. : DarkWolf5
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          wait, your iPod Touch has GPS and 3G? : Schnapple
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            I would I be talking about an mp3 player? HTC Touch. : DarkWolf5
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              Heh - my bad I saw Touch and I just assumed you were talking iPod Touch, what with the context of this th... : Schnapple
              • yes, you are incredibly ignorant because you thought he was talking about an apple product in an apple th... : conandan
  • It's more than that actually, the iPhone is really short on RAM. If you want to make any semi-complicated... : steelsamurai
• meebo wohoooo! i liked beejive but this is great... they better have a good reason for copy paste : davidc02
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  lol, i love their justifications for not having background apps. : retarded talking dinosaur
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    battery life rape? sounds like a pretty good justification to me :( push covers 90% of what BG apps wou... : mikecyb
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      Well, not quite. If you wanted a voice command app to always be running in case you wanted to make a blue... : FirstPersonCooter
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        I know there are a couple applications where a background app could do something not possible with push, ... : mikecyb
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          The voice command thing is not really fringe, i think, and is standard on most other (even crappy) phones... : FirstPersonCooter
          • that's fair I suppose. most people just want internet radio streaming while they do other shit and I gue... : mikecyb
    • seriously, i'm convinced that most people don't know what push does : Korban
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      or they could improve their shitty battery, that's the feature I want and I'll buy one. : kainen1
      • oh ok. : mindfk
    • No, push covers a tiny fraction of them. Push allows a server on the Internet to tell an app "hay I have... : Arcanum
    • What about that app that sends/receives pics to random people? I know it's a silly app but that'd be nic : losimagic
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    i like having my phone's battery last all day : Yanks
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      then in a hypothetical universe where they made background apps possible, you could simply not run any ba... : retarded talking dinosaur
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        Yeah, that'll happen. Maybe they could put an X button that doesn't really close apps, that'd be awesome... : hawkeye
        • No, more like the -- button. : FirstPersonCooter
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        but people are stupid and would tell their friends "HAY THIS IPHONE SUCKS I CAN ONLY USE IT FOR THREE HOU... : Maarten Goldstein
        • Well, it's true. Bonzai buddy needs his friends to be happy. Are you telling me I can't run those apps in... : FirstPersonCooter
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          if it was really a problem they could have the OS pop up a notification that running an app in the backgr... : retarded talking dinosaur
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            Are you a software developer? You sound like one. PEOPLE ARE STUPID : hawkeye
            • seriously. : mindfk
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              some of us like options and not being treated like a retard by our gadgets. : retarded talking dinosaur
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                well its good you have a choice in what phone you can get! : Maarten Goldstein
                • yes, it is good, but i would also like to see more options everywhere :) : retarded talking dinosaur
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                tell me the amazing gamechanging app you have in mind that REQUIRES background processing that isn't cove... : mindfk
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                  Well as someone has pointed out - Internet radio. : Schnapple
                  • yeah thats the only one i can think of that would be dramatically different with background available. : mindfk
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                People are fucking stupid. Good design steers how the object is to be used, not the other way around. If ... : Serpico74
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                  steers, but not forces. as i said, an annoying nag for every bg app would solve the problem; developers w... : retarded talking dinosaur
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                    wrong. developers aren't thinking about how their app impacts the overall quality of the phone. and the a... : mindfk
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                      those people are idiots and i really dont think software design should be modeled around protecting idiot... : retarded talking dinosaur
                      • idiots over 50% of the users of the phone. : mindfk
                      • you obviously do not work in software interface design and development : Yanks
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                        Again, people are idiots. I can see the threads from the morons on TardOCP popping up over how they can't... : Serpico74
                        • yah you can just look at your average person's windows system tray to figure out how this would end up wo... : mindfk
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                That's fine, but you're an extreme outlier case of most users. Sure I'd personally like the option, but ... : hawkeye
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                  how would it be "awful" for apple? all they have to do is allow background apps and then demonize them in... : retarded talking dinosaur
                  • but it would make the OS shittier. right now its pretty clean, without any such notification bullshit. i'... : Maarten Goldstein
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        Or it'd just be like windows mobile and hitting the x sends it to the background anyway requiring you to ... : Blackdawgg
        • yeah. sure, it sucks for a few apps that there's no background mode, but overall i really dont care. wind... : Maarten Goldstein
        • Task manager in a phone, fucking WM.... : Serpico74
        • Or you just download a program that alters that behaviour. : Vantage
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  Is there copy paste yet? : gakera
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    Maybe copy/paste will be the "one more thing..." if so, I'm still not interested! : re-verse
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      if there's only one more thing, I hope it's Flash and if not that, MMS : vynn
      • I completely forgot they were working on a version of flash for the iphone. : Super Sparker
  • There is a new text selection api so.... : indosauros
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    I can feel it NOT coming. : Geoffrois
    • That would suck balls : davidc02
  • There is a new text selection api so.... : indosauros
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    Why does everyone make a big deal out of this? I've never felt the need to copy and paste something. : Edges
    • i imagine its more of a work thing. i used it a lot on my windows mobile device : Maarten Goldstein
  • One of the icons in the "SDK" screen was a pair of scissors. : TastyWheat
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  the sims 3 ! : Mmmmmoo
  • First premium app? : Geoffrois
  • lol DLC : Mmmmmoo
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  WHERE THE FUCK IS MMS AND C&P ALREADY!! RAAAAAARRRWWWW!!! : g0nk
  • Those better be the "one more thing" items : Schnapple
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  EA, The Sims and Microtransactions? Whodathunkit? : TastyWheat
  • Apple is wearing their money hats : AltZero
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  oh jesus christ.. by a hat for your Sim = $0.99. but some socks for your Sim = $0.99. etc.. etc.. : g0nk
  • lol! pass : vynn
  • fuck. by & but = buy. cant type today. : g0nk
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    this is exactly why i never played the Sims games. there's always more things to buy to experience the f... : Korban
    • You can buy just the core game and still get a very enjoyable experience out of it. It is the "full game"... : OverloadUT
  • can always count on EA to jump on any opportunity to nickle and dime their customers! : mindfk
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  Wow this is completely underwhelming. : pancake humper
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    /agreed.. push is cool, other than that, yawn. so far anyways... : g0nk
    • streaming video is cool : carnivore
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  Next up Oracle??? what does a db provider have for the iphone? : Cheeziologist
  • dude's name is Hody Crouch! sounds like he should be a video game character : mikecyb
• audible groans! haha : vynn
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  lol Oracle. They're going to have to show something really neat after that one. : Geoffrois
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    Jason Chen: The Oracle guys are talking about their app that tracks supply line and blah blah chain bl... : davidc02
    • Having Oracle display really seems like a poor choice. When the iPhone has enterprise features, do an en... : hawkeye
• Sweet an app that track supply line and blah blah chain blah blah company stuff! : AltZero
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  I like this Push stuff. I hope Zenbe uses this feature and alerts me when I need to do or get something i... : freshyk
  • ya, I was tired of using Beejive to send me email notifications when an IM was received if the app was cl... : vynn
  • I hope even Notes uses this, instead of having to open any app all the time to check notifications! : davidc02
• "Next up, Oracle." Next up, we take a nap. I love how Engadget keeps on going back to the same snarky ... : sgtsanity
• haha, go engadget 10:41AM ESPN just made a sports joke we didn't get. We hope we don't get kicked out : Cheeziologist
• ESPN alerts.. *bing* GOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL!L!!!!!!!!! : g0nk
• duh na nuh! duh na nuh! : vynn
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  "Next up, ESPN" Good lord do they not understand why it is that people actually want to follow to this... : Schnapple
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    They only put this part in to show off push and to waste a bunch of time before they announce copy & past... : ovrlrd
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      And how fucking sad and pathetic is it that we're sitting on the edge of our seats for a feature which ha... : Schnapple
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        no shit.. lol so bad.. : g0nk
        • True story, this morning I was discussing the iPhone event today with my wife (we both own iPhone 3G's). : Schnapple
  • Developers are people too : MaxPete82
  • I care about this. : soggybagel
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  Next is LifeScan, a Johnson&Johnson company in glucose monitoring. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz......... : g0nk
  • I thought you were kidding and then I looked at the live feed. : -sk-
  • I think it's OK, but we want the hardcore stuff... I'm sure they have something good for the end... : davidc02
  • I think g0nk has low blood sugar!!! : trOmblyj
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  Wow great app for Diabetics : Edges
  • I don't care about that, but Given the new SDK, the meter can transmit that data over Bluetooth or the do : hawkeye
  • yeah that's pretty awesome : mikecyb
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    Does the average grandma use iPhone's? : davidc02
    • my cousin has diabetes and she's 26 : mikecyb
    • I knew several people in high-school who were diabetic. : sgtsanity
    • there is a reason they used to call type 1 diabetes "juvenile diabetes" : jenisthebest
  • Yeah, this is stunningly impressive. : sgtsanity
• DUDES GLUCOSE : TastyWheat
• Video streaming looks cool. : Nitrium
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  Anyone else heavily repulsed by DLC? I'm so sick of this shit already in the console marketplace, and now... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • At least meebo didn't mention having to pay for each message sent :P : davidc02
  • it looks like you're angry. Would you like to buy the bold caps lock DLC for the latest chatty app? CANCE... : FirstPersonCooter
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19451185#itemanchor_19451185 : Cheeziologist
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    It probably will only be popular with games, and even then, I am sure a lot of developers will not bother... : ovrlrd
    • haha : Maarten Goldstein
    • it'll start out like a good thing, and then youll get apps that are fucking ridiculous, like RE5 and mult... : retarded talking dinosaur
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      More like $2 games and you have to pay $10 for every 5 levels. : DarkWolf5
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        Yeah I suppose there is a potential for the extreme end, but because there is so many apps competing on t... : ovrlrd
        • If it's a company doing it I can see them taking the fair approach. If it's a user made game or whatever ... : DarkWolf5
      • That's fine with me. I generally put down games before I finish them, so it'd be nice to only have to pay... : OverloadUT
  • Not really...it is rare that I find DLC that I really want all that much. If they were making me pay for ... : MaxPete82
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    Nobody is making you purchase something extra. Nobody is making you buy a product if you think they're "h... : Bamtan
    • Well, he does sort of have a point in that if the game is dirt cheap (most iPhone games are somewhere bet : Schnapple
  • I like how you whined about background notification being the "user's choice" earlier in this thread, but... : sgtsanity
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  So anyway, did I understand before that we'll finally be able to get GPS step by step apps for say, cars?... : Geoffrois
  • i think so : Mmmmmoo
  • Yes, but you'll have to use a 3rd party app because Google Maps isnt licensed for it if I understood corr... : kikilupo
  • That's way more important that C&P if you ask me. : hawkeye
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  I can't wait to nut all over a stick and have my iPhone tell me my sperm count via Bluetooth : TastyWheat
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    or cramming the iphone itself into your girlfriend's vagina to see if she's preggers. : g0nk
    • or just having your gf piss on your iphone : Cheeziologist
  • killer app. : mindfk
• then the app crashes while calculating how much insulin is needed : vynn
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  Being able to charge for updates to apps is bad news for the consumer. Boy is that going to be abused by ... : yacoub35
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    oh man they're totally forcing you to buy shit, lame shit, Apple! thanks a lot! : mikecyb
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      do you work for apple? : kainen1
      • most apple fans kind of do : retarded talking dinosaur
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        no I'm sick of people crying about abuse of DLC when there has yet to be a single case of anyone 'abusing... : mikecyb
        • there's been no single case of it ever? really? : carnivore
        • hahah whatEVER! there is plenty of abuse. i'm sorry you can't see things from the consumer's POV. : yacoub35
        • RE5 MP. if you buy it no one else will. it could have been great, and if DLC wasnt an option we could all... : retarded talking dinosaur
        • except when it influences application and software architecture to be watered down on purpose to drive DL... : kainen1
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          haha well there it was, the ngmoco fps asking if you wanted to buy a rocket launcher for 99 cents. unless... : Maarten Goldstein
          • ngmoco... they're already guilty for releasing what would have been an update to Topple as a new app -- T... : yacoub35
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          So utterly wrong. Sorry you can't see it. : Robotic Puppy Eater
          • you need horse armor? : Korban
  • There's a difference between DLC and an update. : Serpico74
  • It's just changing the way it's done really. I'd rather just have "DizzyBee" with a bunch of purchased l... : hawkeye
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    They already do that. And I agree, it's totally fucked up. : Edges
    • Yeah but at least not all developers choose to do it, and it seems like the whole DLC just make it so we ... : ovrlrd
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  Unless they've got some more major feature announcements coming, my reaction is "whoopty-fucking-do". : Arcanum
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    no matter what 3.0 includes, if MMS and Copy & Paste aren't in it, it fails : vynn
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      Yes. Push alone won't be enough. : davidc02
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        Especially if it's not available today. I remember hearing how great push would be once before...I think... : hawkeye
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          I like how there's an option for push notification in the iPhone settings, but apparently nothing (possib... : Arcanum
          • Email, contacts, and calendar is and has been push since 2.0 (if a bit unreliable) : hawkeye
  • Yeah, pretty much. : dmason
• Who would like to subscribe to my glucose updates? I hope it plays the ESPN tone or a fart noise every t... : icking fudiot
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  Regarding DLC: "It's only for paid apps—free apps can't charge for content." It would actually make mor : yacoub35
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    i agree. the lack of being able to "try out" a paid app means i don't bother 95% of the time. : mindfk
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      most game apps offer a Lite or Free version to allow you to try them. : yacoub35
      • ...which would be totally unnecessary if they just allowed this in-app purchase thing for free apps. : mindfk
    • it's very common for apps to have a free lite version to try out : vynn
    • Even if the app is only $0.99? I've tried and deleted (and kept) a few $0.99 apps over the past year. : Edges
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    But if free apps had DLC, a lot of apps would go free then after 2 minutes they'd ask you to pay to conti... : Geoffrois
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      yeah i can see both sides of this honestly. : mindfk
      • that's a good point. so maybe they should just not have done this whole "pay for updates" at all since it... : yacoub35
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  >.< One of the uses of Touch Pet is a push notification of a “play date with someone else’s dog.†: g0nk
  • I want to see that First Person Shooter : MaxPete82
  • FINALLY. My iPhone dog has missed so many playdates because I wasn't getting push notifications. : icking fudiot
  • This presentation has kind of jumped the shark : Blackdawgg
  • Remember when they did cool stuff at these events? : hawkeye
  • yeah this is getting kind of lol : mikecyb
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  Any place to watch video of this live? : airrob
  • I'm getting the updates from engadget, but no live video I don't think : Thomas Hace
  • only the people attending are cool enough to see it live. What did you expect in 2009? : vynn
  • http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/03/live-ars-technica-coverage-of-apples-iphone-os-30-event.ars li... : davidc02
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  They better pull off something here otherwise the Pre is going to rape their fucking faces. well, tech... : Deathlove
  • I smell a bailout of epic lolz coming : conandan
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    unless there is some crazy new hardware upgrade around june to apple, I'll probably be switching to sprin... : smacknca
    • Say what you will about Sprint, their phone selection completely fucking rapes every other carriers, yeah : Deathlove
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    I still don't understand that argument, the Pre looks decent, but it pretty much has the same features as... : Geoffrois
    • kinda irrelevant, but inductive charging is really damn cool : Thomas Hace
    • The interface is pretty impressive and it can run more than one app at a time...and of course it's made b... : hawkeye
    • Unified contact data across services, app backgrounding, future Flash support, a physical keyboard, just ... : Arcanum
    • Great interface, easy to develop for, multitasking, I love their approach to the cloud and not having to ... : Deathlove
• they should make a quake live app : Cheeziologist
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  re: LiveWire FPS: You can BUY new weapons for real money (rocket launcher), and play together with your b : g0nk
  • Yeah this sucks... They are really fucking this up. : davidc02
  • hahahaha : DarkWolf5
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    "Would you like to purchase one rocket launcher for $0.99?" SERIOUSLY. I didn't make that up, there's... : icking fudiot
    • Well there you go mikecyb. You asked for proof. : DarkWolf5
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      Link, I don't see that on Engadget or Gizmodo : Serpico74
      • It's on Engadget's feed. : hawkeye
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        It's in a screen shot on engadget. Last one for the FPS. : DarkWolf5
        • Yeah, the internet is pretty slow where I am right now but I see it, thanks : Serpico74
      • Oh shit, haha, nm, I see it : Serpico74
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        http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/03/apple-2009-iphone-3-1339-rm.jpg : Maarten Goldstein
        • No, but I'll buy five for $3.99!!! : dmason
    • OK, outside of the people who would profit from this, is there ANYONE ON EARTH who thinks this is a good : Schnapple
  • Terrible. : ant_hillbilly
  • hahahahah man that's so terrible : Yanks
  • i hope they are just showing that off because it's a new API. What idiots. : ovrlrd
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    I hope the crowd is booing right now. : Edges
    • indeed : davidc02
    • Yeah right, they are probably jacking each other off with Steve Jobs masks on. : SockMonkeh
  • Haha, no : Serpico74
  • ahahahahaha : dmason
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    haha oh god I retract my previous statements :( : mikecyb
    • although the chances of this being successful at all are pretty slim I'd imagine : mikecyb
  • FUCK THAT SHIT : kainen1
  • Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned. : MaxPete82
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    You guys I'm sure Apple has a good reason for this, they know what's best for everyone! : retarded talking dinosaur
    • Right, because Apple told that developer to charge for weapons! : Serpico74
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  "Would you like to purchase one rocket launcher for $0.99?" FUCK NO : hawkeye
  • I hope that game mechanic dies in a fire : conandan
  • LOL : -sk-
• You can BUY new weapons for real money (rocket launcher) Developers: DIAF PLZKTHX : Arcanum
• I can't wait to spend real money to get the rocket launcher!! : vynn
• I am NOT one of those complainers about DLC, but wow...EA is all over microtransactions. As long as the i... : byorn
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  They are about to unveil the ovarina of time app. PLEASE!!!! 10:58AM Scott: "Next, is Smule. The creat : Cheeziologist
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    TROMBONE HERO : Bamtan
    • trOmblyj Hero : trOmblyj
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  QUIT WITH THE OMG COOL AP HERE AWEOSME AP THERE AND GET TO THE BREAD AND BUTTER YOU FUCKERS. SOMEONE... : conandan
  • Seriously, if I knew it was going to be this kind of keynote I would have stuck my dick in the mashed pot... : dmason
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  I get the feeling that in the absence of MMS and Copy and Paste they're trying to blow people away with t... : vynn
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    They haven't discussed any non SDK stuff, and I imagine they're saving any user-facing OS stuff to the en... : sgtsanity
    • Hahaha hello copy and paste! : sgtsanity
  • haha that would suck : davidc02
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  OK so we're an hour into this bitch and no C+P. Game over man : Schnapple
  • just announced. foot in mouth? : mwasher
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  lol 11:01 David Chartier: our readers/commenters here are pretty fed up with all the demos : losimagic
  • 10:57 PT - JS: It's rare that you get fluffy puppies and demos from Oracle within the same 15-minute span : conandan
• Wang’s talking in a loud, breathy whisper, and is kinda creeping me out. LOL : g0nk
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  This is getting really bad. Now they're talking about blowing trombones on your iPhone. : AltZero
  • www.sadtrombone.com : Geoffrois
  • because how can blowing be bad?! : vynn
  • Have you ever used the Ocarina app? Honestly it's pretty well done and I am sure these guys actually know... : ovrlrd
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  You guys are whiners. As an iPhone developer, I am pretty damn excited about some of this stuff. * Su... : SqueegyTBS
  • yeah this was really more of a dev announcement it seems. from that perspective, it seems cool : Maarten Goldstein
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    Most of the people here are treating it as a consumer, rather than developer conference. : Bamtan
    • because most of the people here think the world revolves around them :D : RikiTiki2
  • $0.05 a shack post? : DarkWolf5
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    Welcome to the Shack. Is this your first post? : ThomW
    • Now you tell me. : SqueegyTBS
  • This shit is awesome all around for me, except now we have to reengineer stuff a bit at work : Yanks
• yay the demos are over. Was there even one worthwhile app in that whole bunch? I guess the ESPN and mee... : Horn
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  COPY AND PASTE! : Mmmmmoo
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    Ah, there it is. Fucking finally. Two hardware revisions and three major software updates... and it's fin... : dmason
    • why is it so hard to do something simple like a clipboard? lol : kainen1
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  Hahaha. Wow, this is one of the worst apple events ever. Has the crowd started openly booing yet? : Matto357
  • Nope, they just announced C+P : Schnapple
• and there it is! : losimagic
• Copy and Paste is in : tashtego
• COPY PASTE CONFIRMED : -sk-
• If I ever seem someone playing their iPhone like a trombone in public, I will seriously get my glare on. : MaxPete82
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  Now, finally, onto the customer side. It has more than 100 new features. INCLUDING, Cut, Copy and Paste. : vynn
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    Cool what are the other over 99 features? : Schnapple
    • cut and copy, pasted 99 times. : g0nk
• copy & paste announce for all you wussies : sammyjojo
• HOLY FUK! Now, finally, onto the customer side. It has more than 100 new features. INCLUDING, Cut, Copy ... : g0nk
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  cut, copy, and paste : Mrc32
  • finally! : davidc02
  • OMG CUT COPY PASTE! : AltZero
• FINALLY. Copy/Paste. : TastyWheat
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  copy and paste is in! I can finally stop hearing about it : Horn
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    That's really my favorite part about having C&P, not hearing people bitch. : hawkeye
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      same here. and people still use MMS? Id rather have video over MMS any day : two50six
      • yes, i would use MMS a LOT more with my friends out of town that dont have iphones if the fucking iphone ... : g0nk
      • I use either twitter or email instead of MMS. Why send to one person when I can broadcast to all my frie... : hawkeye
    • me too, thank god : RikiTiki2
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    I find it hilarious that it took them three fucking generations -- on a smartphone -- to get copy and fuc... : retarded talking dinosaur
    • it's even more funny to see how excited everyone is for it, including me! : vynn
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      Well they offered a lot of features those phones didn't have, like the ability to tap a phone number or e... : MaxPete82
      • im talking about software generations : retarded talking dinosaur
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      what's your deal man? if you really hate the iphone so much why are you even bothering with this shit? : mindfk
      • i don't hate the iphone :) : retarded talking dinosaur
    • 3 generations? no. : two50six
    • Seriously. Congratulations Apple, you've finally implemented features that every other smartphone has ha... : Arcanum
    • I finally have a real phone! : mikecyb
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    Hurray people finally get what they want so they can proceed to pretty much never use it. Can we move on ... : ovrlrd
    • Did you miss the part about the trombones? : Schnapple
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      hey! I'll use it like.. twice a month. wtf :) : vynn
      • Well I know a lot of people will use it with SMS, Email and Twitter, but I don't see myself using it all ... : ovrlrd
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      You just don't understand the genius behind Apple. They just remade Copy/Paste into a killer app. Think d... : Geoffrois
      • that's true! They reinvented it and it's 10x more awesomer : vynn
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  So WHY was there no copy and paste before? : davidc02
  • because there's plenty of things to do instead that were more important : Yanks
  • Guessing they went through a bunch of iterations on it and finally settled on one they liked. : Serpico74
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    Now the thing is why not in the past, not how cool is we gonna have it soon. Good point. : Mini-d
    • They talked for half an hour about why they didn´t have Push, the least they could do was to at least ha... : davidc02
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  8 David Chartier: Opens SMS app, there's a camera icon in the lower left. : davidc02
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    Yeah I am starting to think we will definitely see MMS. : ovrlrd
    • I bet it's a dev unit they're using and they fucked up and used the MMS version instead of the SMS versio... : Schnapple
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  i wonder if the undo feature works for things other than just copy/paste, like undoing deleting of text : Mmmmmoo
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    You want them to implement something that would make sense? Crazy talk! : Arcanum
    • it's like being back in the OS stone ages, isn't it? haha : Mmmmmoo
• mail multiple photos! yay : Mmmmmoo
• honestly they could just say "yes you can copy and paste now" and everyone would have got it instead of t... : Deathlove
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  nice, multiple pic attachments in email : g0nk
  • This is something I've actually run into, glad they added it. : hawkeye
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  any keyboard tweaks coming or what? : burgertime
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    like what? : Maarten Goldstein
    • ah, wide keyboard. that, or was wondering about any t9-style function : burgertime
  • landscape keyboard! : sgtsanity
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  landscape, looks like apple is addressing a lot of complaints today : Yanks
  • sweet, I can get finally switch and used to the keyboard layout all over again : vynn
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  Landscape mode! Now I'm excited : Horn
  • Fucking finally, so simple for them to implement. : MaxPete82
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    i actually dislike landscape mode.. feels weird to me : g0nk
    • it dislikes you just as much : conandan
    • Same here, I don't like how squished it makes everything. : hawkeye
    • I completely agree, it feels totally awkward : Yanks
    • I avoided it since it couldn't be used everywhere. There was no sense in trying to get used to 2 differen... : vynn
  • works in notes and SMS too, woot! : mikecyb
  • indeed, some paid app had this : davidc02
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  and my final complaint is addressed, it's perfect for me now MMS WOO : Yanks
  • there it is! : mikecyb
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  So far they've knocked out C+P, landscape mode, and now MMS. What else have people complained about? : Horn
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    Video recording. Flash support. After that, I'm done. : Schnapple
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      Flash is never coming. You can jailbrake and record videos... : davidc02
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        you can jailbreak and use flash as well.... : agentlead
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          Wait... what? : Edges
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            I agree... what? : lonepie
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              yes there is an app when jailbroken that will let you use flash sites...according to my little brother...... : agentlead
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                iMobileCinema flash video..found on cydia : agentlead
                • You have to add the iMobileCinema repository first before you can see it. : TrptJim
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                  I have used it. It's shit. : spazzium
                  • what do you mean its shit?? : doomed
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    true, but a $.99 rocket launcher? come on now. : burgertime
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      Blame the developers for that. : Horn
      • blame apple for being enablers. (not really, i just got an iphone pretty recently so this all sounds rea... : burgertime
• wow now you guys can shut the poo up about mms and copy paste : sammyjojo
• send files and contact cards. finally : Mmmmmoo
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  M-M-M-M-M-M-S!!!!!!!!!! : g0nk
  • too many M's : conandan
  • Sweet. : dmason
• All I need now is spellcheck! : Jonathan
• Now finish with a dropping of AT&T. I know it won't happen but AT&T has shit coverage here. : DarkWolf5
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  has PALM stock taken a shit yet? : Schnapple
  • at 1:00 it was 7.91, it is currently 7.90 : Cheeziologist
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  good stuff! The one additional thing I hoped for that hasn't been announced yet is Flash. : vynn
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    oh, and contact grouping : vynn
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      there already is contact grouping. : carnivore
      • I can't group my contacts by company name. : vynn
      • what, where?? : doomed
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  How long are they saying before the 3.0 gets released? : Pacalon
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    Not announced yet, but I'd guess June/July given their tempo. : sgtsanity
    • And to get this straight, this is just a new software update right? Not an entirely new phone? =P : Pacalon
• Haha so tricky. They waited at the end to announce that they implemented every single thing people wanted... : Geoffrois
• MMS HELL YES! : AltZero
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  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK all of the excuses I was using for not getting an iPhone are now gone now w... : OverloadUT
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    You can get a used iPhone for $99, although you better be quick about it. : ovrlrd
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      Where? : OverloadUT
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        http://www.dealnn.com/99-for-the-refurb.-8gb-3g-iphone-black.html : ovrlrd
        • oh, well thats with a contract. fuuuuuuuuck that : retarded talking dinosaur
    • cheapest ive seen is $175 and that was a cracked one on craigslist. :/ : retarded talking dinosaur
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    Question: Can you seamlessly sync your Google Calendar and Google Mail with the iPhone? I mean with as mu... : OverloadUT
    • I think you can now... with the subscribe thingy : conandan
    • yes : Maarten Goldstein
    • yeah. : mindfk
    • New Google Sync thingie for calendar and IMAP for mail would work. : hawkeye
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      yeah gmail syncs perfectly. it's exceptionally easy to set up too. no idea about gcal though, since I d... : mikecyb
      • gcal works too as long as you don't depend on another exchange account for work or something. : mindfk
    • You can sync using exchange, so yes : jenisthebest
    • one of the promised features in the new update is CalDAV support which is what Google Calendar uses. It's... : carnivore
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    Wait, isn't this a software upgrade for all generations of iPhones? How does that work : kainen1
    • Yes it is. It's a patch just like an update for any other device. : OverloadUT
• Voice memos really turns me on. I had to use a separate slow app before. : hawkeye
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  Finally I can subscribe to my google calendar, yay : WhatIsThisFor
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    this already available : Slowtreme
    • No it isn't. It requires syncing with google which is much different. : WhatIsThisFor
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  yay! support for search : Mmmmmoo
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    w00t! spotlight : Mmmmmoo
    • awesome. search across all apps and content : Mmmmmoo
• Search mail FTMFW : davidc02
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  so it's almost going to be a storm? LOLOLOL /runs : Downforce
  • now if they'd just disable the proximity sensor so the screen stays on when you put the phone to your ear... : vynn
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  haha holy shit they are raping all the complaints in the face. this is the best! : mikecyb
  • facerape :D : Audhuml4
  • lol this thread is going to be funny to re-read. : mindfk
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    I wouldn't call "finally implementing features that should've been there from the first release" "raping ... : Arcanum
    • agreed. this is a response to the pre. thank god for competition forcing them to actually implement featu... : carnivore
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  Spotlight. This might be interesting... : Horn
  • there has been a app for jailbroken iphones that did the same thing for awhile, glad they added it : vynn
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  ah, universal search, beating palm to the punch : Yanks
  • I've waited for this damn feature on a hand-held (even pushing for it as a developer) for years now. : Kentor
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    So far, I still think I will buy a Pre. Heavily dependent on seeing an SDK and a demo unit at this point,... : Cheeziologist
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      Why does the Pre look better to you? : Sgt_Boomstick
      • Speaking as an iPhone owner who salivated at the Pre unveiling, the way they multitask between apps was j... : spazzium
  • Oh god it's a separate page rather than an app that takes 10 seconds to load. I'm almost feeling like a ... : hawkeye
  • Yep, that's pretty solid. : Deathlove
  • Spotlight is the shiznit. : Bamtan
  • I wonder if third party apps can register their own objects to be found in Search. That would be fucking ... : OverloadUT
  • yeah I have to wonder how much of this update is fueled by "oh fuck pre" because that was honestly the fi... : mikecyb
  • If they make it so that other apps can "register" themselves as being searchable as well that would be aw... : digital_d
• so with MMS you don't have to buy the $15+ messaging addons? : mwasher
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  Holy shit this update just got huge : TastyWheat
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    Shit just got real. : dmason
    • who peed on the stage? : conandan
  • now it's the matter of when this is released : Mmmmmoo
• oh shit there's calendar appointments!!! fucking yeah : Yanks
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  stereo bluetooth, haha man everyone is so fucked : Yanks
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    flash support and video recording. If we get that then Apple just went in dry. : ant_hillbilly
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      flash will thankfully not happen but video recording will i would imagine : Yanks
      • Flash says to battery: OM NOM NOM NOM : Cheeziologist
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        why thankfully? nobody would force you to use it if the functionality existed : electroly
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          would you really want a prompt each time you went to a website with embedded flash controls? Flash is suc... : Cheeziologist
          • What makes you think it would be a prompt when the page loads? The most obvious solution would be to bri : electroly
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      oh crap, you're right, no flash......... All they need to do is touch to activate a flash area, if they a... : historyinthemaking
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        flash support is less battery life and more memory. lots and lots of flash applications can be memory ho... : mikecyb
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          yeah it's too bad there would definitely not be any way to turn flash off if they implemented it. no way... : electroly
          • Flash would be a huge win for the consumer. Considering 2 years for cut&paste, no chance. : yacoub35
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            yeah but if you have it on how do you gauge how much memory a particular swf is going to potentially use?... : mikecyb
            • Allow only one at a time by clicking on the one you want to see, then, and have a maximum amount of RAM t... : electroly
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          Actually I've heard that the biggest hurdle to Flash is processing power - namely that the processor in t... : Schnapple
          • apple is also almost suspiciously anti-flash. there's a ton of stuff on their site that probably should ... : mikecyb
          • Flash Lite is useless. It's available for WinMo and you might as well just not install it. : hawkeye
• YouTube subscriptions, YouTube accounts and Encrypted profiles! Nice, been waiting for that. : historyinthemaking
• $10 says they fuck over typing speed again : manero
• O.o Stereo Bluetooth? I thought it wasn't possible with the hardware. Kick ass. : Judicus
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  What will my notes sync with? : WhatIsThisFor
  • I think this is for Mac people. :( : DOOManiac
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  So, it says WiFi Autologin - I have WiFi at my house, with WPA; if I had an iPhone, before, I'd have to t... : Deathlove
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    Nope. You can store profiles and it'll autologin whenever it finds that access point. I'm guessing this... : Horn
    • OK, that seemed like it'd be the case but I don't have an iPhone so whatevs. : Deathlove
    • Even for hotspots, it would save my connections. : slax0r
  • No. But I'm not sure what they mean by WiFi autologin, then. : dmason
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    No, I'm not sure what that means because my WiFi has auto logged in since 2.0 : hawkeye
    • what? it's always been able to login to a wifi spot it's connected to before, not just since 2.0 : carnivore
  • No, it saves the stuff currently. Don't know what thats about... : Judicus
  • honestly do you want your wifi searching all the time? wifi, gps, and 3g radios significantly reduce batt... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • no, I believe that's for at&t hotspots : vynn
  • wifi hotspots dude : doomed
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  youtube subscriptions, nice : vynn
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    What does that mean? : Geoffrois
    • you can see the videos from channels you've subscribed to, couldn't do that before : vynn
• yay, developer beta starts today : tashtego
• I am F5ing the developer portal SO HARD REFRESH REFRESH : Yanks
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  It's still a FEW MONTHS away? FUCK. : TastyWheat
  • what did you expect? this was always billed as a preview of the beta OS for iphone developers, not a roll... : tashtego
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    hah somehow i knew it was going to be june. im pretty tired of all these companies prereleasing a produc... : smacknca
    • They have to... otherwise developers don't have time to make sure their shit works. This was a DEVELOP... : tashtego
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  free!!! : jenisthebest
  • OHH YEAHHHHHH!!!!!! : Bamtan
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  No A2DP or MMS for first gen iPhones. : dmason
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    what is A2DP? : Matto357
    • A2DP is designed to transfer a uni-directional 2-channel stereo audio stream, like music from an MP3 play : dmason
    • Ass2DoublePen : digital_d
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      Use bluetooth headphones with music-playback. : Deathlove
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        doesn't this rape battery? : kainen1
        • completely depends on the phone. : rigg5kthx
  • What? >:( : pyrogen
  • wooohoo! <sigh> I knew I should have sold mine when I had the chance. : smacknca
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    No MMS is odd considering there are jailbreak solutions that bring it to those phones. : pwnage1232
    • Perhaps you did not know that they want to sell more 3G iPhones. : Deathlove
  • Yeah that seems pretty stupid to me. I could understand the BT chip in the first one being incapable of A... : Zeeliv
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  Ruh roh. No MMS for first gen. My sig is gonna be pissed. : Matto357
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    Another great reason to make fun of friends with 2G iPhones : AltZero
    • at least my battery lasts several days : pyrogen
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    What is stopping them from doing MMS on first gen? Do they not want people clogging up EDGE with picture... : slax0r
    • That doesn't make much sense since you can go on the internet and download stuff even bigger. : pyrogen
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    This makes no sense to me. What hardware is keeping this from happening? : byorn
    • The suit´s printers. : davidc02
• Am I the only one that missed the fact that they are going to include Bluetooth A2DP? Finally my bluetoot... : ovrlrd
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  Only need a i feel that they missed was a better way to organize you app icon screens. Good show Apple. ... : SqueegyTBS
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    I accidently bricked my phone when I was jailbreaking it and it really made it clear how completely awful... : hawkeye
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      Would it be so hard to add an organizer in iTunes, or perhaps even folders to the homescreen? Folders ... : SqueegyTBS
      • I'll miss folders when I un-jailbreak for 3.0. It's nice to be able to hide away all my games and save t... : hawkeye
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  quick question: if i buy a used iphone 2g and jailbreak/unlock it, will i still be able to install this s... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • not right away, the new firmware will have to be hacked again by the iphone dev team : lonepie
  • Not right away no. Usually new firmware updates break your jailbreak. : sigpro
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    no clue, but you wont be able to have MMS or Stereo Bluetooth if you do. : historyinthemaking
    • the price difference between used 3g and 2g phones makes up for that i think. the only thing i would real... : retarded talking dinosaur
    • it's not like he has it now.. : doomed
    • There are plenty of MMS apps in Cydia right now, if that's something he even gives a shit about. : DOOManiac
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  haha, they will release essentially simultaneosly with the Pre : Cheeziologist
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    Probably at the same time as the new iPhone hardware too. They're prepared. : Geoffrois
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      Exactly what I was thinking. iPhone Nano. : Deathlove
      • I'm just expecting a faster iPhone with more memory, better battery life and a better camera. : Geoffrois
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  only things missing for me is video recording and custom themes. pretty nice update : re4ctor
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    I am not sure they ever will allow custom themes with jailbreaking. Apple has always made it hard to them... : ovrlrd
    • without jailbreaking I mean. : ovrlrd
    • yeah i wasn't really expecting that one. no video recording is surprising though. i also wanted flash... : re4ctor
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  What do they mean by "live streaming"? : Arcanum
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    they mean live streaming : Maarten Goldstein
    • i'm still confused : [fry]
  • Live audio & video streams from the internet, like watching a live event (sports, etc). : ovrlrd
• now all they need to do is put out at least a 32gb by september when I get back to the states and everyth... : notext
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  11:33AM Q: Why did copy paste take so long? A: Scott: It's not that easy. There were security issues. ... : Schnapple
  • rogue code that a badly designed app would interpret and break shit? something like that : Maarten Goldstein
  • Microsoft time travelers from the 70s tried to break in to the apple labs to steal their copy and paste c... : DarkWolf5
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    Plenty of security issues crop up when you let apps communicate with each other : WhatIsThisFor
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      the thing is, why would the apps be communicating, isn't it copying text into a buffer within the OS? : vynn
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        Who knows how it works, no one here has access to the source so I think we're probably best off taking th... : WhatIsThisFor
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          it just sounds like a lousy excuse for not supporting something so basic : vynn
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            yea I'm sure they're lying... : WhatIsThisFor
            • I didn't say they're lying, those things have to be taken into consideration but those aren't the only re... : vynn
      • From what I understand, even that can cause buffer overflow security issues. : slax0r
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    Applications accessing the clipboard and uploading the data? Still doesn't seem that hard to prevent. : OverloadUT
    • True, I hadn't thought of that : Schnapple
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    software is complicated : Audhuml4
    • ^ this : WhatIsThisFor
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  11:34AM Q: Flash? What are you doing? A: We have no announcements on that topic today. But there are a l... : DarkWolf5
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    "We're adding HDTV streaming for audio and video." Erm, isn't that kinda pointless on such a small scr... : Schnapple
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      Video out? : Conan
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        I dunno if it can handle 720p, I think he meant high bitrate. : ovrlrd
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          Yes, most HD online video is only running at SD. : midgetherder
          • I'm looking at you Shackvideo. >:( : DOOManiac
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    I hate when they respond to Flash questions by talking about video. Video is not the only thing Flash is... : electroly
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      they would lose game sales : re4ctor
      • This is probably why. : Edges
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      I JUST WANT TO BE USE THE MOTHERFUCKING WENDY'S WEBSITE Actually it's a great way to talk clients out ... : Schnapple
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        Yeah I actually think it's awesome that it forces developers to make their own iPhone app instead of depe... : ovrlrd
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          Yes, clearly we want more shitty apps in the app store when the review process is already months behind..... : Arcanum
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            It's not months behind, and really there is just as many shitty flash sites so what's the difference? : ovrlrd
            • Flash sites wouldn't be subject to the review process like iPhone apps are. I actually think this is the... : electroly
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  Flash is the new copy & paste. : JT
  • It'll be worse when the Pre is out running flash shit : kainen1
• Now I'm thinking about getting Bluetooth headphones to use with both my iPhone and MBP. :( WIRES SUCK : TastyWheat
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  great, my OG iphone sucks now. no mms? LAME. : FrayLo
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    time to upgrade, sucka! : mikecyb
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      watch me buy one, and then iphone 3.0+++ comes out 9 months later : FrayLo
      • seeing as how the update won't be out for some time and probably coincide with the launch of a new one, i... : carnivore
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  data tethering is supported! : Mmmmmoo
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    hope at&t supports it soon but probably not for awhile : vynn
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      really Apple is lying about needing AT&T's support. More like needing AT&T's OK. Technically there is no ... : retarded talking dinosaur
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        yeah, the only real support needed on AT&T's end is a way to bill you more. That, said, I wonder what co... : ttyRazor
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          The jailbroken implementation can use the USB connection. I see no reason why an offical tether wouldn't... : spazzium
          • yes, Pdanet is wonderful. : doomed
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  this confirms it, i will be upgrading to a 3G this summer when 3.0 comes out :) : Korban
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    If you're going to upgrade at least do it to the new model. ;-) : dmason
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      The unannounced new model? I really don't see what they could improve without making it way more expensiv... : MaxPete82
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        faster cpu and more memory, maybe? : Mmmmmoo
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          yeah the main changes would be hardware upgrades at this point, though changing things too much could cre... : mikecyb
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            Better camera with a flash, better battery and a faster cpu and I'd buy it. : Matto357
            • I think they won't add a better camera until they update more of the hardware, and so they won't update i... : ovrlrd
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              flash would be the death knell for the battery : RikiTiki2
              • I dont get the "flash is gonna eat your babies" complaint. If you use flash and see the battery draini... : doomed
        • The problem is they want to keep things uniform across all models. The iPod Touch 2G has a faster process... : aggressor
      • I really hope it has a better camera. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I hope they offer a trade in program! One can hope.. =( : Pacalon
    • my current contract isn't up till the end of june (got my 1st gen iPhone on release day), so that should ... : Korban
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  When is it going to get released? : davidc02
  • developers can beta test now, full release in the summer : re4ctor
  • "summer" : byorn
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  so when will the update be pushed to the current 3G iPhones? : m0rfus
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    its coming in june : Maarten Goldstein
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      Which sadly means June 30th in Apple time. : ovrlrd
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        Actually I didn't see Apple announce "June" just "summer" so I would say it's anyones guess. : ovrlrd
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          August 43rd : delataur
          • that's my birthday! :D : r3dn3ck
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  Just a note here: A2DP is NOT supported on older iPhone, only newer iPhone. (That's BlueTooth stereo) : LoioshDwaggie
  • Yea, neither is MMS. : ovrlrd
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    so does this mean that MMS is only over 3g or that they don't want to program for the 1st gen's antenna? : byorn
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      I think it's safe to say that Apple's MMS might be the latest version or whatever, which supports a lot o... : ovrlrd
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        I can browse the web, download music, and watch youtube over EDGE. I refuse to believe the hardware preve... : Zeeliv
        • I think it's less prevention and more not bothering to support a discontinued model. though if they want... : mikecyb
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  Push Notifications This is the big one for me. I can now use an iPhone for work reasons. Wow. I t... : virus
  • yep, me too. : mindfk
  • From a development standpoint, I was hoping for more such as background applications and push, but the mo... : Kentor
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    If you've got an Exchange server you can use it for work reasons right now... : DOOManiac
    • Do you have a quick link where I can find out how to do this properly? Will it work like a Blackberry (s... : treefingers1
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  I'm refreshing the shit out of my developer portal. It's down and telling me to comeback soon... : SqueegyTBS
  • me too :( : mikecyb
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    hah the page with all the info is up but now if you try to download anything it shows the same "nope" pag... : mikecyb
    • oh shit I missed that they added a media library framework. fucking awesome! : mikecyb
  • oh my god i want it so bad refresh refresh : Yanks
  • wait what did i miss? it's not just the 3.0 sdk on the developer site? : mindfk
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  So, the question is, buy now or wait?! :( : losimagic
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    probably new revisions this summer to coincide with 3.0 release. only improvements i can think of would b... : Mmmmmoo
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      how about camera quality (autofocus). fixed focus pinhole cameras are garbage. id rather have AF than mor... : retarded talking dinosaur
      • i have no idea but that would be nice : Mmmmmoo
  • If what you have right now is an old piece of shit phone that does nothing, buy now. Otherwise, I'd bet m... : Geoffrois
  • For me, its a big wait. : re-verse
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  Apple ppl, is there going to be a new Iphone model this summer? My contract ends in May and I want to swt... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Almost certainly. The new firmware supports all Bluetooth functions, you need hardware to match, most li... : Lone Swordsman
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      Right, there is nothing in the new firmware that isn't supported by the current 3G model. This incredibly... : ovrlrd
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        I'm saying that full Bluetooth DEMANDS a new model, unless the hardware has somehow been compatible all t... : Lone Swordsman
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          Oh yeah, and Apple likes to do annual hardware refreshes for its handhelds. : Lone Swordsman
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            They said only the old iPhone 2g is not compatible with the new Bluetooth A2DP. I am certain that the Blu... : ovrlrd
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              I missed this, if so. Anyway, analysts have been picking up supply chain evidence of new phones. : Lone Swordsman
              • My bet is on 32GB + new color backs + new CPU from iPod Touch 2.0 + maybe more RAM in June timed to sync ... : Gonzo
  • I think it depends on how much you want an iPhone and how big of a deal iPhone 3.0 is to you purchasing i... : ovrlrd
  • If they did come out with a new phone, I would imagine it the differences would only be in space and aest... : Greymatter42
  • http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone : carnivore
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  it's pretty clear at this point that Apple has very little interest in getting Flash to work on the iPhon... : MikkleThePickle
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    I think they're working with Adobe on creating a new mobile variant of the flash player : vynn
    • In an interview with Bloomberg at the Davos, Switzerland event, Adobe chief Shantanu Narayen describe... : vynn
  • the iphone also isn't powerful enough to run most flash games out there. I really don't think this flash... : Horn
  • And not just games - lots of apps could be replaced by free flash applets; slower yes, but cheaper : losimagic
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    Or it could be that Flash is just utterly awful and should DIAF. : hawkeye
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      Or it could be that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, having based your opinion sole... : electroly
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        Well that and most anything flash takes up like 80% of your CPU time. : Dynotaku
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          That's funny because WinChatty never uses more than 5%. What's that? You're only talking about banner a... : electroly
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            And basically all internet video. Sure maybe it's possible to write elegant, efficient code for flash... : Dynotaku
            • Full-screen HD video on YouTube uses about 30% of my CPU. I'd hardly call that a CPU hog. And if they w... : electroly
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      I personally really dislike Adobe. I really think they have such crappy products personally. : ovrlrd
      • they do (mostly). and fuck their 3rd party support, what a nightmare. : Audhuml4
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        i love acrobat and photoshop :( : RikiTiki2
        • Photoshop could be sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better. They need to fucking scrap their brush engin... : Dynotaku
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    You're asking for a horribly inefficient VM that makes Java seem blazing fast in comparison to be running... : Kentor
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      Sorry if I'm being abrasive -- still kind of pissed off at filthysock's Luddite comments from last night. : Kentor
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        Which is reasonable. I'm having the same reaction to the OP in this sub thread. The issues with flash o... : spazzium
        • I don't think you guys are being abrasive at all. I've been following news of Flash on the iPhone pretty ... : MikkleThePickle
  • Good. Flash is the absolute last thing I want on my iPhone, right behind pictures of Hitler hugging kitte... : DOOManiac
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  I'm pretty satisfied. Summer is a long time away though. : Albemuth
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    I'm definitely installing the beta for now : vynn
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      beta? : mindfk
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        http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/ : Mmmmmoo
        • http://devimages.apple.com/comebacksoon/ :((( : Yanks
        • ahhhhh. got it. : mindfk
  • not really, like a month or two : two50six
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  Since Devs have access to iPhone 3.0 starting today, can we count on it being available on torrent sites ... : 5150Joker
  • Usually the developer versions have limitations, like no phone support. I don't know if that is true of 3... : ovrlrd
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    Won't it just be the SDK today? : Schnapple
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      Dont know yet. The dev portal seems to be hammered. The login page is timing out. : SqueegyTBS
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        Hey if you get a download link SM it to me please, for the love of god (I'll also let you know) : Yanks
        • :( will do... : SqueegyTBS
      • I am so going to annoy the shit out of you to show me the new OS. : spazzium
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  one of our clients is going crazy about the fact that he can charge for stuff in app, oh god it begins : Yanks
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    Oh god. This better not be what I think it is : Cheeziologist
    • what is it? : davidc02
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  So wait for new model? I was going to buy one this week :( : Silent Wolf
  • June or July, most likely, if it's consistent with the first two iPhones. : Lone Swordsman
  • my wife has been bugging me to get one for each us but she just had surgery so i'm trying to put off larg... : kbnerd
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    what do you guys think would be in a new model? new design most likely(all aluminum?), new camera..i can'... : re4ctor
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      Can't be all aluminum, that would block reception. That's why they switched to plastic backs. New cam... : Lone Swordsman
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        and more internal memory : vynn
        • Of course, but Apple's actually expanded capacity outside of main events before. : Lone Swordsman
      • ah true, i forgot about the 2G aluminum back.. new hardware could be one thing. there must be somethin... : re4ctor
    • http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/12/leaked-photos-of-next-generation-iphone/ could be fake but it's a ... : Mmmmmoo
    • i can't see them introducing a drastically new model that would cause compatibility issues with apps. : Korban
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      3G - 8gb ditched, 16gb replaces that price, 32gb introduced 3G - Body redesign, maybe. iPhone Nano - ... : liqker
      • Sounds likely to me, though I'm still skeptical about the Nano. : Lone Swordsman
      • i really liked the 1st gen body better than the 3G, aside from the aluminum getting scratched WAY too eas... : Korban
      • i doubt they will redesign the body, this year will probably be 32 gig, new colors, better cpu etc : historyinthemaking
      • I don't think they'll market this exactly like the ipods where the old tech gets handmedown'd to the nano... : emcea
      • I have serious doubts about the iPhone nano. iPhone developers right now have a very common platform to ... : spazzium
  • I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there won't be a new model this summer. When Apple gets it rig... : Schnapple
  • http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone : carnivore
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  So can I get a bullet list of important things announced? * C&P * MMS * Push That's the list ri... : kek
  • http://i.gizmodo.com/5171796/iphone-30-os-guide-everything-you-need-to-know : vynn
  • From Macrumors.com : - In-App Purchasing - Peer-to-Peer Connectivity - Third-Party Accessory Apps -... : ovrlrd
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  does having the push shit working mean that I can receive email when it gets to my inbox instead of havin... : conandan
  • can someone answer this for me please? : conandan
  • Yes. : TreMetal
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  Can the iphone fetch data for non apple apps automatically? Like let me know when a new story is posted t... : Thomas Hace
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    that's what push functionality will add in the update : carnivore
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      how will all this work with the touch? Mine doesn't seem to maintain wifi connectivity while it's locked... : Thomas Hace
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        Yeah it doesn't, and it won't. Buy an iphone? : spazzium
        • don't want to add to my at&t contract :/ : Thomas Hace
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        Mine maintains the connection if it's being actively used. I can lock the screen when running Pandora and... : Albemuth
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          this makes me think that the 3.0 update will make the iTouch stay connected for push reasons. : Korban
          • Yeah, it would pretty much have to and they didn't say this function wouldn't be available for the Touch. : Albemuth
• I finally got the 3.0 sdk downloading, saturating my pathetic connection at 300k/sec : Yanks
• Perhaps even more useful is a system-wide search based on Spotlight. Individual apps, including the suppl : rosewood
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  sweet zombie jesus what the fuck happened with this thread : CoRDS
  • jesusphone : chazums
  • Squeegy, your app is handling this monster thread quite well. : spazzium
• MMS: revealed!! : doomed
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  Make no mistake..I love my iphone..but its major saving grace is its UI and the appstore...feature wise i... : r3ckless
  • Video means that much to you? : spazzium
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  Just a small thought. With the new accessory support, I wonder how tangible a functional gamepad would be... : Greymatter42
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    but if you hold your gamepad who will hold the iphone? : doomed
    • Think along these lines, but not as crappy http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2008/8/iphone-game-pad.jpg ... : Greymatter42
• WTF, no video recording still? Oh well. Also: fucking lol, I just bought a pair of Sennheiser headphones ... : stuka
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  I'd like to be able to change my message tones. But its nice to see MMS, Text forwarding (yay, joke spam ... : Beady
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    I don't see why Apple doesn't let us change message tones. I would pay for this. :( Yes I know I can ... : freshyk
    • Mine is jailbroken and I can't specify message tones other than changing the ringtone to one single thing... : Phreakin
    • but don't you understand? more options and buttons will confuse the user!! : Mmmmmoo
• I would bet money that Apple's going to push HTML 5 as a replacement for Flash for the iPhone. : sgtsanity
• geez this thread is huge. : TwiLyght
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  Coming home and reading this thread has been an interesting experience, with all the "fuck this shit! no ... : DOOManiac
  • yeah it's pretty fucking hilarious : sKetchflow
  • Calendar events and immediate to-do stuff on the lock screen would be great. : freshyk
  • Photographers would probably like Flash to show off their portfolios. Still... : Lone Swordsman
  • copy and paste would be handy for remembering addresses from a website to check out in maps or putting a ... : carnivore
  • Yeah, I'm not too thrilled about encouraging devs to make $0.99 in game weapons. Then again, I guess it'l... : terath
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  Why has no one bitched about Ringtones yet? Why the fuck can't you just add ringtones? Even little piec... : conandan
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    because people that have "Holla Back Girl" as their ring tone should be shot in the face. : Korban
    • just because Jedi_27 eats tadpolls doesn't mean that everyone should be punished : conandan
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    you can add ringtones, you just need to be somewhat tricky about it : mikecyb
    • http://theappleblog.com/2008/08/07/free-custom-iphone-ringtones-using-only-itunes/ : FrayLo
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    Huh? You can add ringtones. Or are you griping that you have to convert them first? : DOOManiac
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      they have to be bought in iTunes : conandan
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        you can make your own pretty easily. google it. : carnivore
        • ^^ This. I am not giving Apple a dime for my ringtones. : DOOManiac
  • Full requirements are (off the top of my head) - an .aac file, named .m4r, and under 30s.* Anyone can ... : Fayk
  • Why has no one bitched about alarm ringtones yet? I hate waking up to a looping 30 second custom ringtone... : glio1337
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OEqyKbHDRE&annotation_id=annotation_484073&feature=iv : DianeOfTheMoon
• epic tl;dr : miasma(&)
• If anyone wants to watch the presentation: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0903lajkszg/event/ind... : DOOManiac
• So I'm kind of annoyed that if you want to use the new OS, it puts your phone into "testing" mode permane... : boarder2

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  Wow...that is fucking retarded. : NFXFSX
  • Yea it really is. I wonder what the underlying motive behind all of this is. : MagicWishMonkey
• What the fuck is going on in Australia? It's like the lawmarkers all got mad-cow disease.... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  nanny state : [fry]
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    more like nanners state. those bitches all done gone bannanas : MagicWishMonkey
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      it always starts with stripping the people of their firearms : [fry]
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        no one ever listens. it's easier to say "LOL YOU SO CRAZY NOBODY NEEDS NO GUNS!" than to think about the ... : MagicWishMonkey
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          Kind of sucks for Australia they don't have any neighboring countries to smuggle arms through if the wors... : MagicWishMonkey
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            you can call me nannerpuss, nannerpuss. and guess what? : [fry]
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              you can defend yourself if someone decides you need to spend some time in a special camp somewhere? : MagicWishMonkey
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                nope. i love pancakes. : [fry]
                • nanner pancakes? : Ride-My-Rocket
          • The Austrailian aborigines didn't have bow and arrow tech in their tech tree. : trove
        • Governments are made up of individuals that all have to deal with infighting, backstabbing and other crap... : Marauder IIC
      • if only they had guns, they could be shooting up the ACMA website right now : 60days
    • throw another nannerpuss on the barbie : festivalman
• why does australia suck so much? : feek
• wow, australia blows hard. : burning eye
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  Do they not realise that the internet is a global thing, so telling Australian websites owners not to lin... : thecray
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    no, they're also going to have a filter where you cant visit the sites : Maarten Goldstein
    • That's not coming for quite a while though. : thecray
    • i thought that whole idea was scrapped? : retarded talking dinosaur
    • China style. : trevis
• To think I once thought it'd be a nice place to move some day. I thought Australia was a free spirited co... : Marauder IIC
• Wait - how does jurisdiction for something like this work? - Sites that are hosted in Australia? (the ... : action roommate
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  Does anybody have a link to this list of banned websites? I cannot find it anywhere. : thecray
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    its secret, thats the whole point : filthysock
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      so, how are you supposed to avoid linking to them? : thecray
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        the govt tells you are breaking a rule, which you don't know about, which you can't appeal, ask question... : filthysock
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          I can't tell if you're being serious or not. If you are then that's completely fucking idiotic on their p... : thecray
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            from theage article "Already, the head of the Australian Christian Lobby, Jim Wallace, has said he hopes ... : filthysock
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              Despite [The Telecommunications Minister] previously saying his scheme would be expanded to block "refuse... : filthysock
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                What the fuck? How have they not revolted over this? Fuck censorship! : Ormsbee
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                  because everyone knows it won't actually work, as SpaecKow has said, its all posturing. : filthysock
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                    but its not ALL posturing because have actually succeeded in making a very large site pull a link to a ba... : filthysock
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                      Yeah... I guess I'd still be pissed. We've got the whole "first amendment"... and even though that seems : Ormsbee
                      • They would flip out on their couches, just like they are with the trillion dollar bailout bullshit. We al... : thecray
        • holy shit that's terrible : MagicWishMonkey
• australia's approach to the internet is really quite bizarre. every politician goes on about how importan... : erotic sock
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  You are all retarded and so is techradar. This is not in place and is not enforced. Nor will it be. It's ... : SpaecKow
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    well no, there is already a secret blacklist in place, with no way that citizens can find out what's on t... : filthysock
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      Does that really sound like something that is actually enforcable in the way normal laws are enforced? It... : SpaecKow
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        you do realise they already employ a fair number of people that scour the internet for naughty links and ... : filthysock
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          Do they? Sites should be going down all over the place then right? I perceive no Australian internet holo... : SpaecKow
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            well, they haven't started downing those sites yet. Its mostly kiddie porn stuff. But they have started t... : filthysock
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              No it's not about the type of site targeted, I mean that there is no way that this can have a serious imp... : SpaecKow
              • yep, once the all the ISPs gave the govt the finger, i felt a bit better about it. Just the fact that the... : filthysock
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        What do they do about the Internet in China? : DM7
        • Exactly... If China can do it, so can other countries. Seriously, fuck censorship. : Ormsbee
        • They have a internet filtering system and they maintain a list of banned sites and search phrases. Wh... : SpaecKow
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        It's quite possible. We have laws here in place that make it illegal to show minors stuff like porn. If y... : Marauder IIC
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          Computer games, the internet, porn, ban it all, crawl into a fucking hole and be done with it. Gah I hate... : xxx2xxx
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            I hope it's just the generations gap. : Marauder IIC
            • That's the sad part, it probably is the generations gap. They just don't die anymore and represent the ma... : xxx2xxx
• i posted this yesterday, the hilarious thing is, one of the biggest newspapers link to wikileaks in their... : filthysock
• first you can't fap it to naked incestuous simpsons, and now this? : GloriousCow
• WTF Australia. : spazzium
• Cue Pravin Lal quote from SMAC. : Arcanum
• Jesus, Australia is fucked up. : Danny5225
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  Fucking LOL, banned websites? WTF Australia? : thetangent
  • Guess I'll have to get my snuff porn the old fashioned way.. : lasercat
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  And people wonder why Americans get so pissy about Constitutional rights. : Arcanum
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    the american constitution is fucking amazing with regards to personal freedoms even in comparison to coun... : filthysock
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      "Pursuit of happiness" isn't in the US Constitution, IIRC. : Arcanum
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        sorry, declaration of independence right? Still, it set the tone for the country. : filthysock
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          Which one? The Confederacy or the Republic? : trove
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            well it can't be the confederacy because of that "all men are created equal" clause : dirge23
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              Wrong Confederacy. : trove
              • oh you meant that other failed country : dirge23
    • that was in the declaration of independence : kill9
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  its not banned... i'm on it right now : aeg1x
  • also the websites were both reported to the AMCA by people opposed to filtering as a demonstration of wha... : aeg1x
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    there are just a few blacklisted pages on there I think : jcupitt
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      no, websites hosted on australian servers will be fined if they link to wikileaks. : aeg1x
      • No, just a few pages on wikileaks: The Australian communications regulator says it will fine people wh : jcupitt
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  we have one senator called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Fielding causing all this mess. he is a fu... : radula
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    Watch promoting or advocating assassination be illegal in Australia as well :P : RikiTiki2
    • i dont mind the sacrifice if it 'fixes' the country. : radula

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  DO IT DO IT DO IT : gnomish
  • ^^^ : Xevo
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  We need one more you fucking homos fucking you more and more nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yesyesye... : gakera
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    It is more fun now that we finally have 6 people and are about to play finally. : Xevo
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      I wish I had the setup to play DoW 2 :( I'm sad again you jerk :P : gakera
      • Sorry, I had to upgrade to play it 3v3 as well =/ : Xevo
• still need one? : RetroRedEyeJr
• I fail at life, but it's okay; I have delicious pork chops to console me. : Mr.Finkster
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  Ugh too many freaking bugs tonight, I hate losing to crap that I've never seen happen with units before. : Xevo
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    I don't think we would have won despite the bugs. Dreadnaught spam + tech marine ability = fuuuuuuuuuuuu... : twifosp
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      which tech marine ability? : Modulus
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        Heal all vehicles : twifosp
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          I only used it once! It did save that one dread up top though. Had a few bad experiences with it before, ... : daedraug
          • Well yea, that was the time when I had three zoeys and all three dreads stunned temporarily with xevo com... : twifosp
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      Also, we had foxhawk on our team. : twifosp
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        oh twifo, where did we ever go wrong. : Foxhawk
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          I love you : twifosp
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            <3's all up in here. Now join us on the Vent server next time and get back in fighting form, Fox! (vent... : Xevo
            • Mike is quite the DOWII charlatan, isn't he? : Foxhawk
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      That was definitely a problem, and I adjusted to the Dread spam too late. Still, I had bugs in both game... : Xevo
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        By the time you guys adjusted to the dream spam, I had switched to tacs with plasma :D. Loving the FC + I... : Mr.Finkster
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          Yeah your FC wiped out a bunch of my crap when I was microing elsewhere and/or looking at a stupid bugged... : Xevo
          • Yes, yes it was. And for him too! : Mr.Finkster
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          Having moved from playing Eldar (Warlock or Farseer) to SM + FC, all I have to say is the FC with Iron Ha... : walker270
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            Agreed, he's a beast, but no more so than the tyrant or warboss. That and his Iron Halo has a very effect... : Mr.Finkster
            • They've already nerfed the FC's hammer in the first retail patch (it was so ridiculous before) and I imag... : Xevo
    • I got to your power pretty early on so I though we'd have the advantage there and decided to push it by g... : Mr.Finkster
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  Ill be around in a half hour : ]pm[chem
  • as promised. lets play! : ]pm[chem

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  yea it's pretty heinous i had fun for awhile tho, but we didn't have any whiny 19 year olds. : mwasher
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    I don't see how this is possible. : FlatlineDixay
    • They weren't 19 years old yet. : TheNiXXeD
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      for the most part, the guild i was in were older people, and while there were a couple who took things a ... : mwasher
      • We are running 10 mans with another guild where we're all grown ups. It's pretty nice, everybody seems t... : DianeOfTheMoon
• I'll take a free WoW account! : pyide
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  To be fair, you're the one who can't walk in a circle correctly. : jingletard
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    I'm assuming he was trying to do the Safety Dance : mwasher
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      that guy after patchwork :P : Rigor Morts
      • lololol so easy : yakz
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        ahh.. grobbulous : mwasher
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          yeah that him.....first i got yelled at for "going off" in the raid then after he told me i had to run... : Rigor Morts
          • er that's : Rigor Morts
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            To be fair you should have known what to do before you got to the fight by reading strategies etc. : Evil Benius
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              This is true, however, I can also appreciate a grown ass man not wanting to get yelled at by a teenager f... : lefthighkick
              • Naxx is cake and there's videos for every fight with descriptions of what to do on Youtube, it doesn't su... : acidnynex
            • It takes all of 3 seconds to explain it correctly, he could just leave the raid and delay it more dependi... : devi| dog
          • Maybe i'm going to sound like a dick but if you don't know what to do, you need to ask beforehand or bett... : dooberzoo
          • True, but those 24 other people aren't bots. You're burning their free time off work/school/whatever for ... : yakz
          • not to defend the zit-face dude but going the wrong way on that fight totally fucks up all 24 other peopl... : electroly
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          I am watching a video of it, but I don't understand what's going on. Are you not allow to leave the cent... : deathofrats
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            He places a disease on random raid members periodically during the fight that causes you to explode after... : acidnynex
            • Yea, going around in a circle, in addition to moving out of the rings of poison, also let's the "bombed" ... : mwasher
            • Also, when searching for videos to learn fights, always search for How To [Boss Name], there's a ton of v... : acidnynex
            • dude. use more punctuation. : biskits
        • I was going to guess Thaddius and the pos/neg charges. : Derringer
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  it's fucking hilarious how serious some people take it : freakord
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    to be honest, trying to keep 25 people organized can't be the easiest thing to do. but, screaming at pe... : mwasher
    • "Jahnson of Ire your maneuvering in round formation is lacking in effectiveness, come gather here at dusk... : Sailor of Fortune
  • It's also fucking hilarious how incapable some people are of successfly performing a simple task inside a... : Ellissd
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    I took it extremely seriously when you'd be with 39 other people for hours on end, failing miserably at l... : jingletard
    • Oh man, trying to lead a 40 man raid when learning BWL was like a second job that was way more stressfull... : Derringer
  • it's fucking hilarious how some people are actually entertained by it : SockMonkeh
  • Yeah. I pretty much quit when I got roped into Naxx in greens, specifically told them I was undergeared b... : node
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  Join EVE, I bet the median age is like 24 or 26 and everyone has HS or a GED. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Oh god I would love if this were the case. We had an alliance run by some ADD ritalin popping freak (Don'... : Mr.Finkster
  • Probably depends on your guild more than the game, the majority of people in GCR (the shack guild on Mal'... : acidnynex
  • You STILL get yelled at (at least in PVP you do) and if you don't then your commander is doing it wrong. : kpxkrnjc
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  The ageism of this post is hilarious. I can just imagine you screaming back at him and telling him how ol... : OverloadUT
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    ageism? seriously, you're going to try to pass that off as a real thing? and at what point did he imp... : biskits
    • Are you saying that there is no such thing as prejudice against someone based on their age? Of course age... : OverloadUT
• how many times have you quit and unquit? : lakren
• DON'T DO 25 MAN RAIDING UNLESS YOU WANT THE LOOT. If you just want to play the game and enjoy the cont... : action roommate
• lol at hearing "the zits over the mic" : biskits
• it can be fun if you're in a decent guild, but 10 man content is just as fun with less hassle. the worst ... : d0pamine
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  i pitty all current wow players that did not play the game in the closed beta/alpha like i did. man th... : -=kodiak=-
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    Raiding is an evil gameplay method that should have died in everquest but moved on to the other games : Mondo
    • yea back in the closed alpha/beta there were only a couple of small 5 main raids... like the one in westf... : -=kodiak=-
    • That would really suck if people enjoyed different aspects of the game from you, they should definitely n... : TreMetal
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    What was the end game instance back then? : dooberzoo
    • there wasnt any. it was just wailing caverans and that one instance for the alliance in westfall, forg... : -=kodiak=-
    • oh and when they finally opened up other races like undead and shit.. you had all the lowbie undead insta... : -=kodiak=-
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      oh yea, i forgot about the gnome instance too... that was there as well... later on when they opened up t... : -=kodiak=-
      • Simpler times I guess. Just levelling itself was pretty fun, it's a shame it's so fast now. : dooberzoo
  • When WOLTK came out a bunch of us just experimented with the new dungeons - no guides at all. It was the ... : Balboa
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    WOW beta is literally the most fun I have ever had playing a game, ever. I thought about it constantly wh... : rudds
    • that's what i loved so much about anarchy online, almost no items had any level requirements nor soulbind... : xxx2xxx
• You have it easy. I guess you missed the 40 mans. Don't even get me started on daoc, where unless you... : fleabug
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  I haven't played wow for over two years now, so forgive this probably stupid question... but the last tim... : rgoer
  • They revamped Naxx to be a level 80 25 man instance because there was a ton of content in there that not ... : pyide
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  sorry, i came at 25 man raiding. any point in reading the rest of the post? : Korban
  • sorry, i came at 25 man raiding. reaming. any point in reading the rest of the post? FTFY : hashd
• It only gets worse, pretty soon you'll have to listen to some 30 something year old failed IT professiona... : scorpiusman
• You did something wrong and got yelled at for it and so you quit. Grow some thicker skin imo. : kpxkrnjc
• Not all guilds are like that, unless you were pugging it? : b00tch