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• Actually...thats the game. Enjoy. : Jinxplayer
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  should've joined a corp with Shackers :-( Join the channel Shacknews in game and say hi! : zerog83
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    Sure will do!!.... How do I join a channel? >.< : Clasifyd
    • on the left side of the UI there's a button that'll say "channels and lists" when you hover over it (or i... : MisterPhoton
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    what this zerog83 said. Come join Photon Ventures Inc, the best Empire corp around! : MisterPhoton
    • ^^^We will totally help you out. : ejectorpod
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      hijack I've moved to Nonni to do higher quality level 1 Home Guard agents. What standing are we shoot... : r_picmip 5
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        if we could get everyone there, yes, it'd be awesome, especially in ~9 days when I take delivery of my ne... : MisterPhoton
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          You should name it MY CHILDHOOD so you can go around to systems singing "HAVE YOU SEEN MY CHILDHOOD?" : ejectorpod
          • if I wanted to do something like that, I'd name it MY PENIS or MY BASEBALL : MisterPhoton
        • Are you going to probe wormholes with your Willy? : r_picmip 5
        • Oh and that's pretty awesome :D The Orca is a nice looking ship. : r_picmip 5
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  are you doing the tutorial or any of the tutorial agent's missions? You'll get tutorial aids that way ... : Sailor of Fortune
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    Yeah, I've been following them around, and I got put on an 'Epic arc', whatever the fuck that is, so I've... : Clasifyd
    • The trash should be sold or reprocessed. The ships should be pretty easy to sell. : hawkeye
  • Tutorial aids? Is that anything like Space AIDS? : waxthirteen
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  Find some way to make money and do that endlessly forever. Alternatively, go mow lawns and buy isk. Mak... : Sambula
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    What's 'podded'? I see that everywhere, and have no idea what it is. : Clasifyd
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      its when someone blows up your pod. From the user manual: Podding is the act of destroying a player's ... : MisterPhoton
      • Make sure to update your clone when you are podded (up the skill points that it 'protects' to more than y... : loboca
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  lots of EVE hate >:( http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_21&page=5 http://www.eve-tribune.com/i... : ejectorpod
  • Also, make sure to get EVEMON and Eve Fitting Tool (EFT). Very useful tools. with EVEMON you should sta... : ejectorpod
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  The guides on this site (right panel) are required reading: http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com/ My sugg... : r_picmip 5
  • Yeah, they're just a couple of guys... one guy stuck up my warp drive when I was in some low sec area try... : Clasifyd
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  So, is solo mining actually a profitable venture? : Clasifyd
  • to an extent. It becomes markedly more profitable when you have a second account or a buddy hauling your ... : MisterPhoton
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    Just don't get lolcanflipped. I've done this to so many people it's kind of sad. : kpxkrnjc
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      That does sound pretty nasty.... What is it? : Clasifyd
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        where someone comes over to your jettisoned can full of ore, creates one next to it, then drags your ore ... : MisterPhoton
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          Ah, right. Speaking of mining, are asteroids the only things you can mine? : Clasifyd
          • You can mine moons which provides massive amounts of income, but that's done automatically by Player Owne... : kpxkrnjc
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            you can also mine ice fields and can harvest gas clouds. Ice is used to power player-owned stations and j... : MisterPhoton
            • UncTom was harvesting gas (lol) over the weekend. Never got a final profitability number out of him tho. : loboca
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              I'm assuming ice and gas are all in low-sec space, though, right? : Clasifyd
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                not gas, I think its only w-space (?) but ice I believe yes. : loboca
                • gas can be found in empire space, but probably on the rare side. : JuffoWup
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                  ice is scattered all over the place. There's Ice two systems away from our home system. : MisterPhoton
                  • in a .7, forgot to say that part : MisterPhoton
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          We did this to someone in a Hulk. Well we killed the Hulk and he got pissed off. He went back to the ... : kpxkrnjc
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            Can't you insure those things, though? (minus the cargo) : Clasifyd
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              Freighters and Hulks are tech 2 ships so their insurance payout is extremely small compared to the initia... : kpxkrnjc
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                I see, so, essentially, running a tech 2 ship has a high probability of intrinsic loss? Is there no defe... : Clasifyd
                • The defense is to not die. : Goncyn
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                  Tech 2 gives you power, but that power comes with increased risk. : Finestaut
                  • in other words, with great power comes great responsibility : MisterPhoton
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                  and making sure you can afford to lose it before you fly it. : mindfk
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                    No matter how many times this gets repeated, it's still a lesson no one seems to learn in time. :( I w... : Finestaut
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                      its a hard lesson to follow :( there's so many shiny toys in EVE : MisterPhoton
                      • I was part of a corp that actively recruited new members for awhile, trained them, and tried to make them... : Finestaut
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                        I die a little inside every time someone who's been in the game less than a month celebrates because they... : zerog83
                        • Me too :( In my eve kindergarten corp we tried sooooo hard to put pressure on people to not do that. Un... : Finestaut
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                          I haven't even fully figured out my Destroyer. I'm just hoping I'm ready for Cruiser by the time I get t... : hawkeye
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                            Turn that frown upside down hawkeye! You're smarter than at least 2/3 of EVE's population! Celebrate! : Finestaut
                            • I've also already lost my first love and I'm still playing. I'd gotten my Catalyst all sexied up with ... : hawkeye
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                            It bothers me more because people say "I WANT TO GET A BS!" and they spend days training up the skills ju... : zerog83
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                              I gotta stop clicking Post before my thought is complete. The whole "get the bigger ship!!!!11" mental... : zerog83
                              • Hopefully, us posting about it over and over in this thread will at least help shackers from falling into... : Finestaut
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                                Good advice, I agree. I went balls to the walls mining my first trip through EvE and basically Bored Qui... : r_picmip 5
                                • Oh and a "side job" is important. Be it mining, trading, working contracts. You should be doing that st... : r_picmip 5
                              • I don't see how flying around in an interceptor helps my penis size at all. Now a Titan, that makes me... : hawkeye
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                                But there has to be a floor to this as well, right? I mean, for a newbie like me, I'm flying around in a... : Clasifyd
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                                  Only if you want to mine in .5 sec and up, and even then, there be NPC pirates in the belts who can get y... : Finestaut
                                  • Well, yeah, but I have to get out of the Frigate class and through Cruisers before I can get anything spe... : Clasifyd
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                                  If you're mining then getting out of a frigate should be a priority. http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php... : hawkeye
                                  • ^^^^Listen to this and not to me. : Finestaut
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                                    Okay, I've been using this as a loose guide (already fucked it up aparently, since I went Gallente), so I... : Clasifyd
                                    • If you're desperate to get in something cooler in a hurry and don't mind wasting a little bit of time go ... : hawkeye
                                    • While I encourage no one to follow my lead, my character (I'm terrible though, as I've been away for a ye... : Fayk
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                                I think part of it is that people are used to "bigger" or higher numbers being better, as is typical of m... : Fayk
                                • unless they changed it, frigs can do wrecking damage on a BS, so its in their favor to have some way to s... : JuffoWup
                            • Eve shackers listen to these people.... i was lucky when playing that i was pilot better than alot of peo... : ssj4megaman
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                            in my experience the battlecruiser provides a decent solution for a compromise between balancing the "sex... : mindfk
                            • Battlecruisers are the best thing to ever happen to EVE. : Finestaut
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                      unfortunately it seems like half the people that learn that lesson take the occasion to quit the game. : mindfk
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                        Worse than that. See above. We were actively recruiting and training new players, and despite all of ou... : Finestaut
                        • This should be on the EVE faq or something. : hawkeye
                        • absolute truth right here. and honestly, it never stops being hilarious to me. : zerog83
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                Freighers are not tech 2 and can be insured properly : Reptile
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                  Freighters...I mean Jump Freighters are t2 ....needs more spellcheck : Reptile
                  • Their insurance pay out ratio may as well be T2, in case you didn't know. : kpxkrnjc
        • I caught a can flippers before with a sweet little technique... One of my friends' corps was a high-se... : zerog83
        • classic pirate move. >:) : m0rfus
  • it is until you get blowed up and your shit stolen. : jonin
  • High risk, low reward. You can't efficiently mine alone, you need at least one other player to haul or... : Finestaut
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  Hunting people with directional: http://files.filefront.com/BriefGuideToPiracySmallerwmv/;13172700;/filei... : semaphore
  • directional scanner is a very important skill to know if you plan on doing any kind of pvp : kpxkrnjc
  • that's a pretty cool vid, thanks : dael
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  I started working on an updated version of EVE Asset Manager. Requests go in this subthread. : Goncyn
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    dongs : zerog83
    • I would think MisterPhoton would be interested in this. Both dongs and my program. : Goncyn
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    Wait, did you resub? I'll have to check the latest version and see what its got. <3 asset manager, even t... : loboca
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      There's still no newer released version than the one from a year ago. I'm working on updating it though. ... : Goncyn
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        no no, I'll be like, I wonder where I left blah, and he'll be all, uh, use asset manager, and I'll be all... : loboca
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          Oh, right. That makes sense. I remembered him being initially skeptical of its usefulness so I'm glad he ... : Goncyn
          • Reptile, per lobo's comment, if you use my asset manager how come you never bug me about it? : Goncyn
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    I like it the way it is...maybe some wallet integration, if the API allows for that? : MisterPhoton
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      It does I believe. How would you like wallet integration to work? : Goncyn
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        it'd be nice to be able to pull reports of all transactions, then be able to either export them directly ... : MisterPhoton
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          Hmm. I wouldn't mind messing around with that after I get a new version out the door. Just like with asse... : Goncyn
          • it really does, but there's just so much information the game has, it's almost impossible to determine wh : zerog83
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    What is the asset manager and where do I get it? : byorn
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      http://wiki.heavyduck.com/EveAssetManager
      
      the database file there is incredibly out of date; there are newer ones out there but I haven't had a chance to post one yet... let me do that now akshually

      Mar 16, 2009 11:53am PDT
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      http://wiki.heavyduck.com/EveAssetManager the database file there is incredibly out of date; there are... : Goncyn
      • on second thought, I'm not going to post a new db file before I release a new app version; it would just ... : Goncyn
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    Request: Mac Version! : g0nk
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      i've considered working on a web-based evemon/eft tool for a little while now since i'm sick of having to... : mindfk
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        i'll suuuuuck yer diiiick maaaannnnn.... really, that would be awesome! : g0nk
        • yeah but from what i understand EVE players are notoriously paranoid and having a web-based skill tracker... : mindfk
      • I was really disappointed that EVEmon and EFT are windows only :( : hawkeye
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      Does Mono run on mac? I need to check that out and see how far away my app is from running on Mono. : Goncyn
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        yes there is a mono implementation for osx but it's very rough. evemon is all sorts of broken on it. : mindfk
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          Is Mono itself rough, though, or does EVEMon just use poorly supported features of it? I think you have t... : Goncyn
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            yeah i don't know which. if you were careful i'm sure you could make things work fine with mono. evemon n... : mindfk
            • I looked at evemon's code once and ran away screaming. : Goncyn
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    Why? Old version worked fine except for the new assets (I assume a new db dump will fix it...just waitin... : Reptile
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      oh, I guess that answers the question I just posted. There are a couple of bugs people have discovered ov... : Goncyn
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        Sounds interesting...pricing would be a nice addition http://www.eveonline.com/community/toolkit.asp ... : Reptile
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          I already have an Apocrypha db. : Goncyn
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            perhaps might want to wait for the official one? :) : Reptile
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              Well, I got it from the guy in #eve-dev who has been bugging me for a year to update the program, he is o... : Goncyn
              • Other than the new db needed, I've been fine with the old ver...comes in handy on occasion when I'm feeli... : Reptile
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  Okay, so I've got several of the same ship due to the tutorial missions (I think they're all Navitas and ... : Clasifyd
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    Yes, keep them. Make different builds out of them with the fittings. PvP, PvE, E-War, etc. Probably no... : r_picmip 5
    • you should load out one for tackling and go to =< .4 and start some shit! good learning experiences will ... : m0rfus
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    Use them to play with fittings, and treat them like backups. Never get too attached to one thing in EVE,... : Finestaut
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      Never get too attached to one thing in EVE, because it's always going to get it always has the chance of ... : mindfk
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        I actually prefer my more "hopeless" interpretation. EVE is dangerous. Every time you undock, you run t... : Finestaut
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          true, but in my experience there seems to be a fair amount of things you can do to mitigate those risks. ... : mindfk
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            That's playing smart. : Finestaut
            • honestly it's all due to playing with shackers. as soon as i could fit my drake with something that would... : mindfk
  • I'd keep one spare and either reprocess or sell the others depending on skills (Refining) and needs (vari... : hawkeye
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  Dumb Eve Online Question How are the steps to pvp combat? This seems like such a basic question, b... : byorn
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    1: You don't know. All you really know at first is the ship he's in (right click and show info). You ha... : Finestaut
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      You can have the overview show the name of the ship type, but if you don't know the difference between a ... : loboca
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        lol...that is true. So how do I learn that stuff? : byorn
        • start reading! http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Ship : mindfk
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      So what is the best way to learn about PVP? I know everyone says to join a corp in 0sec, but how do I fin... : byorn
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        I'm thinking the militia stuff might make a decent PVP intro for a newbie. Haven't decided if I'm going ... : hawkeye
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          Our basic requirements for NWS are that you are in a Battlecruiser that can survive 0.0 ratting (Drake is... : loboca
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            Looks like Photon or militia then! I'm a long ways from BC/BS. : hawkeye
            • Yeah, I am close to those, but my funds are nowhere close to being to buy and then cover the expenses tie... : byorn
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              What is the militia? : byorn
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                Faction PvP and PvE in Empire. You join an NPC militia corp for a certain faction and go out hunting for... : r_picmip 5
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                  so does it take place anywhere in empire space and is it one group vs. one group or are you just hunting ... : byorn
                  • It's nation vs nation though you don't have to be a particular race to join its faction, only have high e... : r_picmip 5
      • The best way, honestly, is to start out as a frigate pilot. Learn about tackling; holding down targets wh... : zerog83
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        It's tribal knowledge mostly, you learn by practice, and by association with people who know wtf. Anythi... : Finestaut
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          Are there any problems bouncing between 0sec and +.6sec? : byorn
          • getting there alive, finding someone to run with in 0sec, getting back alive : Goncyn
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            Depending on where, it can be fairly exciting. A lot of wealth flows from 0sec to empire, so a lot of th... : Finestaut
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              What sort of config is a blockade runner? : byorn
              • Transport ship; small cargo hold but really fast to align and get into warp. : zerog83
              • it's a particular ship, a t2 industrial cargo ship : Goncyn
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                It's a t2 industrial ship with a modest cargo hold (in the low thousands), but fast and well armored. If... : Finestaut
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                  How would I get jobs to transport stuff? Via contracts? Wouldn't I get attacked by factions if I am not a... : byorn
                  • You're already smarter than the average courier contract person.... Read where you are picking up/deli... : Reptile
                  • I'm not familiar with doing that kind of work for contracts, but I used it as a cash multiplier for stuff... : Finestaut
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        If you're a goon...go goonfleet! We love our new-bees!! : Caoster007
        • I tried to join last year, but my goon account was turned down so I lost interested. : byorn
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          You need to subscribe to SA to join Goonfleet, ja? : Ride-My-Rocket
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            need to be an active SA poster registered at least three (possibly more) months ago : Majuju
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              I registered a while back, but I think my account has lapsed. If I turn on my account again, should that ... : byorn
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                I thought SA accounts are for life unless you banned and thus have to pay for it to come back. : Sailor of Fortune
                • if you don't use your SA account for a while it gets locked (or something) and it has to be enabled again... : byorn
              • I was in Goonfleet about two years ago, re-subscribed, went through the automated authenticator system wi... : Majuju
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        If you want to learn how to PVP, DON'T join goonfleet. They're terrible pilots. They're funny at times ... : kpxkrnjc
        • ^^^ BoB spy : Clay
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          Haha, your goon hate in EVE threads is always hilarious. I'm curious where you get this stuff. True, I... : Fayk
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            Maybe, one goon is the same as another-- dead. I'm glad they're funny though :D I always feel so alon... : kpxkrnjc
            • I'm ex GBC cooperative : kpxkrnjc
            • It people like you that make me glad I'm goon. You suck. : Caoster007
  • pvp combat initializes when someone with vastly superior range obliterates you. : Downforce
• Every one of these threads makes me want to resub : Thomas Hace
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  So who do I talk to about getting in Photon and where do I need to go? : Clasifyd
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    come to Torrinos VI - Home Guard Logistics Support, click the offices tab, find Photon Ventures, click ap... : MisterPhoton
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      Holy shit that's a hike.... How the hell do I get all my crap out there? : Clasifyd
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        repackage, recycle, sell minerals, buy shuttle, buy new crap when you get there : Goncyn
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          Rgr. Will I actually be able to do missions out there, or will I just get stomped on for a while? : Clasifyd
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            if your rep is preventing you from doing missions, we can fleet up and I can run a lvl 3 or 4 a few times... : MisterPhoton
            • Well, keep in mind I'm still running an Imiscus, so I don't exactly have firepower/shields/etc... That's... : Clasifyd
    • what sec is this? : Thomas Hace
• Yes, its called: JOIN THE GOONS the only reason to do anything in the game is to get money to buy skil... : wimpy1
• "I feel like I'm floating around aimlessly waiting for my skills to increase." - That IS the game right t... : Damodred
• Read this from start to finish http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com : Reeves