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• when you see it ... : epit
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  I haven't watched the whole video yet, and I haven't read much about ssd. But is it a good bet that this... : Zakko
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    If SSDs have already hit 256GB in 2-3 years, they will catch up quickly to HDDs and then yea, probably. : askedrelic
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      From reading about them on the wiki article, it looks like the main drawback that doesn't seem to have an... : Zakko
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        I know Intels SSD's have a controller that allocates the space based on how much sections have been used ... : Beady
        • heh, I didn't even think of that when watching the video. While interesting, his defrag demonstration is... : Zakko
      • I think for consumer level hardware the mean time to failure is already roughly the same. Yeah, hard driv... : uncleanmonkey
• Running win7 x64 on a samsung slc ssd is indeed awesome. I can't go back to platter. Having a 32gb c: is... : phokz
• that was pretty funny : carnivore
• amazing stuff. : festivalman
• Did Samsung make their own controller or is this using the Intel one? Either way I assume it doesn't such... : nudel
• SSD is indeed blazingly fast. I do believe platter based HD's are going to be phased out. : Fredrik S
• duddets! : On the Brane
• That was hilariously awesomeness. : Matt Burris
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  wow, ripping a dvd that fast is insane : sikander
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    That was just making a copy of a 700MB file. It wasn't even a full 4.5/9GB rip. : hawkeye
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      Still, if it does 2gb a sec that means copying a double/double disc ISO in less time than it takes you to... : action roommate
      • No. The disc drive would still be the bottleneck. I think even at 16x you're only looking at about 20MB... : aux7
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  The jumping on the trampoline part was great. : hawkeye
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    I was still cringing though, couldn't help myself. : MagicWishMonkey
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      yeah, i had my hands up infront of my face. How did he keep the drives from unpluging? : trevis
      • I don't know, I kept expecting one to unplug and crash to the floor : MagicWishMonkey
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        Don't they make locking SATA cables now? : hawkeye
        • Yeah, SATA cables with latches have been available for a while ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  Samsung claims that its SSDs max out at 220 MB/s for sequential reads & 220 MB/s for sequential writes. ... : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Also, any pricing on these SSDs? The 128GB models due to hit shelves in the first half of 2009... : Ride-My-Rocket
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      UPDATE The part number for the 256GB model is MMDOE56G5MXP-0VB ; the 128GB model is MMCRE28G5MXP-0VB .... : Ride-My-Rocket
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        Ouch fuck! $745 bucks? : risimage
        • I know, it's only half the price of the intel one : Luminair
        • Keep in mind that the 160GB Intel X25-M's ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168201670... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  i love how they are doing this on a bus that will be so incredibly bottlenecked this is completely pointl... : Yanks
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    this cannot be real, the interconnect on the motherboard could not handle 2 gigabytes per second : Yanks
    • yep, the more i research the more this becomes completely impossible : Yanks
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      they're using two raid controllers and the onboard SATA too. Must be a software RAID : suqur
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        how. windows doesn't support software raid : Yanks
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          this is a lie. but still, with 2 raid controllers if they had them at PCIEx x4 slots, that's a theoret... : Yanks
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            They could alternatively have 5 x4 cards in there somehow with the onboard that would make 24 and that wo... : Yanks
            • pause the video after the "get ready to pause the video to see how he did it" title. this is all covered : electroly
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              who pooped in your cherrios? : m0rfus
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                just a bit skeptical, that's all! : Yanks
                • you're acting like you just discovered the moon landing was fake or some shit : manero
                • No, you just got your units mixed up. : MisterClaw
                • If it's fake, then why did they even bother showing how it's done at the end of the video? I'm thinkin... : Maddog_Delphi97
          • they used 3 controllers, and the areca alone is pcie x8 : Luminair
          • PCI-E 1X 1.0 is is 250 megabyes per second each way PCI-E 1X 2.0 is 500 megabytes per second each way : plat2on1
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            PCIE 1.x is 250MBytes/s per lane. that's 2gigabits/s per lane. : MisterClaw
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              I blame wikipedia if its megabytes instead of megabits, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express MB = ... : Yanks
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                oh what the fuck, GB it gigabit but Gb is gigabyte but MB/Mb is the opposite, fuck everything this thread... : Yanks
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                  Big B is Byte, always. : MisterClaw
                  • I remember teaching this to an 8 year old kid : Sailor of Fortune
                • you got the last part right at least : Luminair
                • No, GB is still GigaByte and Gb is Gigabit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte small b is always... : Judicus
              • MB = megabyte Mb = megabit That's common notation for a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MB/... : MisterClaw
        • Windows Drive Management has built in stripe support (since XP) and you can perform a registry hack to ge... : Judicus
    • They are using multiple controllers. Pause at the end to read the exact config. : OverloadUT
    • 1993 called, they want their PCI bus back! a PCI-Express 4x 2.0 slot is 500Megabyes/lane * 4, that mak... : Toraz Chryx
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  uh, 2x1000 watt PS's ? he brings in a corsiar 650hx in the starting of the vid : dignan
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    upp, i see the 2 1000's, but he also puts a 650 in front of them. impressive video : dignan
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      Would he even need that much power? SSDs use very little. : sanchez
      • skulltrail + raid controllers + Radeons : Toraz Chryx
• When he's defragging you can see that he has left 4 dead on those drives. :D : SilverSnake
• Anyone have a link to the actual specs? I suck at pausing at the end. : sanchez
• what tool was he using in the beginning to see his magical 2GBps number? : smacknca
• Love the HALLELUJAH!'s :P Thanks for posting this monster. : SlamDunk
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  http://personal.inet.fi/atk/kjh2348fs/pics/ssd_awesome.jpg : SlamDunk
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    this is good. thnx : epit
    • you're welcome : SlamDunk
  • Awesome -- thanks for posting this. I didn't realize Areca had come out with a few more models in the AR... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  Meh, what would 22 Raptors have achieved in those benchmarks, and how much less would they cost? All S... : code-e255
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    Can 22 Raptors achieve or exceed 2GB per second? : Maddog_Delphi97
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      the F-22 Raptor has a top speed of mach 2.5 so i'm not sure how that translates into GB/sec : kbnerd
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        Mach 2.5? You can throw it at two and half times the speed of sound? What? : Maddog_Delphi97
        • Yes the F-22 Raptor can move at two and a half times the speed of sound. : OverloadUT
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        Depends if we're using bluray or DVD to measure it. Mach 2.5 is 73,761cm/s Each disc is ~12cm in dia : Judicus
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          slow day at work? : buzzbat
          • Oh Zeus yes! : Judicus
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          you're my hero : epit
          • WAIT! What if we stack the bitsdiscs vertically? DVD4.5: 27.6TB/s * (12cm/disc / 0.012cm/disc) = 2760... : Judicus
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          This calculation only makes sense if the jet is pulling a strip of discs behind it or something. For a m... : DinK
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            Nah. It actually has to cover that data, not just pull some. There are a lot of really bad assumption... : Judicus
            • Oh look at me, thinking of transporting it from point to point like a network instead of thinking of a si... : DinK
        • This is pretty god damned funny. : Squirrely
        • hahahah this is why the shack is awesome : askedrelic
        • Wow. I don't know what to say... : DOOManiac
        • I love this. : Ride-My-Rocket
      • The bandwidth avialable to the AESA radar would be insane. "Regular" bandwidth is probably 1 or 2 Mbit ma... : bombay
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  BONUS POINTS for the Bad Influence data blast at the end. And even more bonus points to anyone that gets ... : node
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    My tapes had all been recorded over so many times it was impossible to read the data blast but I still tr... : A Sponge
    • My VCR was too ghetto to have slow mo :( : node
  • My pause wasnt good enough to read any of the stuff on VHS. is it wrong to think violet berlin was kinda : silentbobuk
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  I want one of these so fucking bad. The size just needs to go up, and the price needs to come down. : AroundTheFur1380
  • The fact that we're already at 256GB is mind-boggling, considering our company paid $600+ for 32GB SSDs t : Ride-My-Rocket
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    I don't care about size, as long as windows and that stupid ass swap file can fit on it... price needs t... : ShadowRam
    • yah I wouldn't use SSD for storage... buy a nice 1TB or 2TB drive for that and a decent sized SSD for Wi... : Shadowdane
• Oh man, nothing succeeds like excess sometimes... : five_percent
• It was hilarious to see my x48 chipset system with a velociraptor outperform my mates brand spanking new ... : Mr.Finkster
• Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but: http://techreport.com/articles.x/16291 It seems like four d... : Freon
• that guy was getting all those computer girls hot and horny : gyokuro
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  Thought it was kind of dumb they defragged the drive though... : DOOManiac
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    Also: I thought SSD's were actuallly slower in RAIDs? I read some article a few months ago (though it was... : DOOManiac
    • No reason IMO to think that issue with the RAID controller needs to be present with all RAID controllers ... : DinK
    • i could imagine if it was using on board RAID... but a real hardware RAID solution would probably be fas... : Shadowdane
  • the kind of dumb doesn't end there : Luminair
• heh, recycling 6 GB. Be my hero and 7-pass random overwrite 6 GB. : the archvile

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  cp : suqur
  • yes, the standard copy command is fine even the GUI file managers are fine : jcupitt
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  scp checks for transfer integrity at the end of the session doesn't it? : spiffymc
  • cp is copy, scp is network copy, so it all depends if the hard drives are in the same system. Both will w... : re-verse
• rsync. can resume interrupted transfers. : mwasher
• eot, you have all you need. : re-verse
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  Qzxkz, dsfv, and pkhgfh are all you need. : Dave-A
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    Sorry i made those up. : Dave-A
    • lol : pyrogen
    • Hahahaha : ieGod
    • heh : sanchez
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      It's sad when you can't even be sure they are made up. : Lone Swordsman
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        They look like perfectly legitimate linux utility names! : Zakko
        • :( : askedrelic
    • hahahahaha : virus
    • Oh damn this is great. : thief
    • hahahaaha omfg : Downforce
    • It's like Poe's Law for geeks : Schnapple
    • hahahaha : Nitrium
    • lmao lack of vowels totally had me : grandmasterlee
    • LOL... good one. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • we need a super lol button for shit like this : sesmaster
    • It's a Unix system. I know this." : Mr.Fusion
    • hahahaha : SockMonkeh
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      whats funny is that dsfv is actually a command to delete securely from video in debian 4.66 : FPSDavid
      • thanks google : oHnOES
    • I 100% fell for this. : OverloadUT
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      what are you guys talking about? this actually exists. http://www.kaddar.net/man/dsfv.html : kaddar0
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        Turns out his post wasn't funny after all I guess : Chris Remo
        • I think it makes it even funnier : zerog83
        • yeah oh well :( there goes my day : suqur
        • kaddar0 figured it out, party's over everyone, get back to work. : ArcKnight
        • It wasn't funny before people realized there were programs using that name. : AgentPothead
        • Sorry, i made those options up : kaddar0
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          I think this post & reply just pushed the whole thread off the funny scale. : hirez
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            Do you mean it broke the scale because it's so funny or that it made it not funny because you better mean... : OverloadUT
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              oh the former. definitely the former. : hirez
              • I think remo's post is my favorite post in this thread : kaddar0
        • Haha beautiful :D : dumb.
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        You win this thread : OverloadUT
        • I'm glad somebody got it Overload >:) : kaddar0
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          And now that I've read the whole thing you win even more. I laughed out loud at "this is a required flag. : OverloadUT
          • -b nobody is sure what this option does. : DrWaffles
          • I love how the capitalized version of the same says "do not use this flag" : dumb.
          • haha I did the same. Good work, kaddar :) : Ovate
        • Ahh, now that I've actually read the link. Holy shit. : spazzium
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        oh shit i was just making shit up in my post :( : FPSDavid
        • Haha click and read the link carefully : OverloadUT
      • You fooled me for a moment until I started reading it. :) : DHAvatar
      • -b nobody is sure what this option does. haha : Teiresias
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        for data distribution over decentralized networks, utilizes metadata provided by the qzxkz bit stream h : rosewood
        • lmao wow : Downforce
      • That took me a second :D : d fluke
      • Submit as RFC right away! : loboca
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        lolol : pyrogen
        • That is the funniest post in a long time. Every line is great. : pyrogen
      • +INF : dumb.
      • hahahah wait : askedrelic
      • lolol : zebosausamite
      • ok this was funny : ]pm[chem
      • lmfao, nice : yAak
      • My favourite post since INCOMING FAIL WHALE : SenorSpine
      • if I could [ lol ] this at the office, i would. : qsylvr
      • This is the greatest post I have ever seen on the shack. : aaarrrgh
    • hahaha. Nicely done. :D : DOOManiac
    • none of those packages are in debian. : sukabljat
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    I don't get it... :\ : mwasher
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      Actual linux commands: grpck insmod ipcrm klogd mkfs mknod mrd pppd ptx pwck ypbind ypcat zc... : Zakko
      • "man man" is all you need to know : c0bra
      • yea, but I know what most all of those do and how to use em. I guess I just didn't fall for it in Dave-A... : mwasher
  • I was about to google this shit :( : anhero
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    this whole sub thread is an abortion and not funny at all. I don't understand you people. : gmd
    • oh god I just got to class one hour after writing "files distributed over the network are versioned using... : kaddar0
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  cat /dev/random > newfile : c0bra
  • cat /dev/random > /dev/audio or something (IANALG - I am not a Linux guru) : Rehevkor
• dd : SwiftyPants
• is it an entire drive copy, or a subset of files/folders? : vitaminzach
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  rsync : rmjackson
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    ^^^ rsync -ravu /home/me/myfiles /mnt/newdrive if you want to make it bullet proof, run screen first.... : epit
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      yeah, running this in a screen session would be a must. : rmjackson
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        why would screen be a benefit here? just run the rsync in background or a different tty : ]pm[chem
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          in theory it'd keep running if you were SSH'd in and lost your connection. but it'd be nice to see the re... : epit
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            that's what nohup is for : sumo-hacker
            • screen is approximately a billion times better than nohup for everything that nohup is used for : electroly
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            running in background will keep going after a ssh exit too. for the log, rsync options] foo bar >& log & : ]pm[chem
            • fucking shacktags : ]pm[chem
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              It depends--usually not. When an session dies, the terminal will send a SIGHUP signal to the shell, wh... : asdf
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                1. ssh from my mac laptop to linux box right next to it. 2. yes >& /dev/null & 3. ps -u username | g... : ]pm[chem
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                  instead of "yes" try "top." "yes" does not respond to sighup like regular programs do. your example wor... : electroly
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                    my example works fine with rsync, I just tested it. (ssh from box 1 to box 2, rsync from box 2 to box 3 ... : ]pm[chem
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                      kill -9 doesn't let the HUP signal be raised. : sumo-hacker
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                        ok well you can also run it and then immediately exit the ssh session on box 1 -- that works too, and the... : ]pm[chem
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                          It depends on how you do it, here's why: Backgrounding a process in bash will do a fork, change the gr... : asdf
                          • This has been a very educating subthread. Thank you. : DOOManiac
                          • good info, I enjoyed this subthread too. exit also worked with tcsh. kill -9 worked of course, as noted... : ]pm[chem
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    Yup. RSync is what you need. If you need to copy from Windows to Linux or vice versa there's even a ve... : DOOManiac
    • Is this really right though? I'd use rsync if I had to keep two big directory trees on two servers in syn... : jcupitt
• does scp support resume? regardless, scp (or rsync w/ scp if you are doing a handful of them) : Yanks
• Drives? cp Servers? scp, sftp Replication? rsync / drbd : anhero
• rsync -Pax source_files destination is probably what you want! If your connection or machine dies, it ... : asdf

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  No Halo Wars players here besides me, conandan and shwortdogg? : hoov1185
  • Me also. But I'm in a another galaxy far far away. And I'm not online with the 360 yet.. :( : humbleone
  • No I am, but I havent done much MP yet. Add me "rezlogic" : two50six
  • I have it... The limited edition even, just haven't put it in the drive yet. Soon, though! : uncleanmonkey
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  so far, I have not really found a way to counter a wart hog rush. They can be powered up so fast, and th... : conandan
  • Yeah I guess part of it was that I wasn't expecting it at first, but it got to the point where I had 2 ba... : hoov1185
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  Me and a guy I met online, have been playing rounds a lot. We have played about 20 matches and only lost... : conandan
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    Damn. Got any helpful strategies? Do you primarily upgrade one units tech all the way? Another game I ... : hoov1185
    • I think most people underestimate the importance of the resources that are on the map. This is because t... : conandan
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  Oh, and this game is so a gem in the rough. Its being overlooked because of DOWII, but the fact of the m... : conandan
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    id really like to try this game out. i still havent played the demo. I probably wouldnt mind picking t... : -=kodiak=-
    • Most new games are 60$ on release for a week and then 70$ 1-2 weeks after. : razlebol
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    There are some missions, like the Arcadia Evacuation and Scarab Laser so far that have failed and retried... : Sailor of Fortune
    • I learned the hard way not to select all units and use the special ability. I lost a number of Warthogs b... : hoov1185
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    is it better than the demo had me believe? i'll admit i only tried the first level but i wasn't that imp... : Mr.SEX
    • yes... much better. its a very fast paced game once it gets going : conandan
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  I've switched up my routine big time when I go against human players as opposed to A.I. I definitely use... : shwortdogg
  • the covenant fast rush is easy to ward off, and they will waist shit tons of money trying to take down yo... : conandan
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  Warthog rush with Gauss cannons are really great! I think the only way to counter it is a bigger group... : Sailor of Fortune
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    But what to do when you are playing as Covenant? : humbleone
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      lolol... have you seen the covenant boss powers? the god damn arbiter is almost unstoppable in a group o... : conandan
      • I think it's badass how you can control him too. Although it depletes resources fairly quickly. : hoov1185
      • I haven't played the game yet /o\ Purchased, but not played. Also its my first Halo game - so I know l... : humbleone
    • Hmm, I always hated running into grunts or whatever that throw plasma grenades at my warthogs. : Sailor of Fortune
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  not sure why you're getting owned by the warthog rush, where is the rest of your team? just creat some an... : mo13
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    That attributed to my problem for sure. I got some help from one of my teammates but the other was focuse... : hoov1185
    • I guess the main problem was that I had little money after I finally beat them off. While I was trying to... : hoov1185
    • you should ALWAYS Jack the vehicles with the spartans ASAP unless you are sniping from long range : conandan
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  If you could, link me one of your games from halowars.com - i'd like to see how many they are getting out... : YoYo
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    Holy crap I did not know they kept tabs on the stats. Cool: Game in question: http://www.halowars.com... : hoov1185
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      Yeah - we got some tweeks to make to them, but they help look at some of this stuff. In that game the pr... : YoYo
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        Ohh ok, I just checked your profile. Makes sense now. It was definitely a learning experience. I hope ... : hoov1185
        • That's greatness! : YoYo
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  how large are the mp maps? the one in the demo was pretty tiny : Mmmmmoo
  • The 3v3 maps are pretty big, but they are not huge. Some maps are more confined then others, but they all... : hoov1185

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• I still need to buy this. : guido anchovy
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  I agree : gmd
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    also why does the six-axis control perfectly in it and suck dick in every other game? : gmd
    • I guess this proves that how the SIXAXIS is implemented the developer makes a huge difference? :P : IndigoAK
    • same reason Wii controls are great for some games and crap for others... some devs take the time to under... : Demius
    • Because since you're essentially controlling the "wind", it doesn't need to be trigger-finger responsive,... : at0micgarden
• i don't think i'd say "one of the greatest game ever made", but it's flawlessly executed. 4/4 stars. : dirge23
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  I watched the video, but it didn't impress me that much. Please impress me with information so that I wil... : LoioshDwaggie
  • The game's awesome and $10. Buy the game. : walker270
  • Flower is a game that really needs to be experienced in order to get what it's about. You can't really e... : IndigoAK
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    I felt the same but it was cheap and people raved about it so I grabbed it. It is indeed a great game and... : nudel
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      I hope they add more content later on down the road. That's probably the only thing on my wish list. I'... : IndigoAK
      • You have sold me on this purchase. You get a cookie. : LoioshDwaggie
      • Yeah, it should be easy to make levels for it and I would definitely buy some more of them. : nudel
  • Look around you. It's a game about flowers. Yet we all seem to be playing it. Flower has effortlessly mad... : etherealrhythm
  • you don't really need the opinions of other people if youtube has footage of peeps playing through it : Shai-Tan
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  The game puts me in my happy place. Except for Level 5. That puts me in my scary place. >:( : walker270
  • Haha so true. When the power blew in level 4 I was all :( : pturvz
• I still need to get this one. I finally managed to get around to playing Noby Noby Boy this weekend, so ... : helvetica
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  BEST. GAME. EVER. LIKE. BATMAN. IS. BEST. MOVIE. EVER. : [fry]
  • where does watchmen or braid fit into this list? : hamachi
  • It moved me to tears. : Godhatesfatpeople
• I've been burned so many times now by the quirky "omg you have to get this game even though it looks like... : bozer
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  What's this Flower thing? : Ride-My-Rocket
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    I heard it has something to do with video games. : guido anchovy
    • This is it, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_(game) If it's PS3-only, I can't play it. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Its not even close to being the greatest game ever made, but it is very unique and more aligned with art ... : manlyman
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  Your aspirations are pathetic man. Greatest game ever? A program that would be more at home as digital ar... : bob3578
  • It''s a game. : IndigoAK
  • have you played it? : dromo5
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    It's one of the greatest games ever made to him. How does this make his aspirations pathetic? : My Documents
    • I dunno. If it makes any difference to him, Link to the Past and Half-Life 2 are on that list as well. :... : IndigoAK
• i want it for pc. i like games that have a distinct movement or flow like quake or to some degree even mi... : Hoax
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  This game sounds awesome; why don't imaginative titles like this come to the 360? : fishbone
  • because they have a size limit and charge $5000 for a larger hard drive. : gmd
  • durrrrr : [fry]
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    sony should really produce more 360 games, wtf : dirge23
    • not quite what I meant : fishbone
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    A big part of it I think is Microsoft's attitude to XBLA versus Sony's with PSN. Sony is a lot more op... : Chris Remo
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      it's a damn shame there's a real lack of decent non-downloadable games for the system, I can't really jus... : Yanks
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        not real lack, percieved lack due to too much shack. : Boxelder
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          not really, there are no exclusives that I want enough to justify it either and pretty all multiplatform ... : Yanks
          • Control matters more to me than Live does, since I don't do a lot of games online. Silent Hill: Homecomi... : IndigoAK
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            You don't really know that because you haven't played them. I don't see why Gears can seem so awesome an... : Boxelder
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              MGS4 was my most disappointing game of 2008. And I'm a huge Metal Gear fan. : SiW.
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                Or, it's the most lovingly crafted intricately and detailed games ever made with a unparalled narrative d... : Boxelder
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                  I think MGS4 is a great game and I had a lot of fun playing through it, but I dunno. It seemed extremely... : IndigoAK
                  • I think it's probably one of the few games I've played that really stands up a serious critical interpret... : Boxelder
              • uh, did you finish it? I hated the story but it's one of the best games I played this generation in terms... : Shai-Tan
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                I wouldn't call myself a huge Metal Gear fan per se, but I did really like 1 and really love 3 and like q... : Chris Remo
                • I also love 3 and still think it's the best in the series. 4 just bored me to death with all of this extr... : ieGod
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              Coming from someone who has every current gen system and enjoys them all, the difference between Gears an... : Begawkiness
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                A someone who isn't buying Re5, you can take co-op and shove it :(. : Boxelder
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                  I'm not someone who plays those really so I am not positive that I'm reading your post correctly, but I'm... : Begawkiness
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                    I was just joking. Co-op is fine, but it's the trendy thing now so it's showing up where it doesn't FUCK... : Boxelder
                    • Oh yeah I know, I was just saying I agree and coop doesn't belong in all places, but works quite well in ... : Begawkiness
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                      hmm, I haven't played KZ2 yet but I thought they really improved Gears 2 relative to Gears 1 : Shai-Tan
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                        My problem with Gears 2 is most of encounteres it's just two pieces of cover on your side, 3+ pieces of c... : Boxelder
                        • I have to agree, while I don't feel it was 'rushed' as you said in an earlier post, I agree completely wi... : Begawkiness
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                        My problems with Gears 2 were the parts where you weren't doing stuff that involved cover. Fuck that vehi... : deveus1
                        • really? I liked the variety they added. obviously they could improve the game mechanics in some of them b : Shai-Tan
                        • I fucking hated those part as well. I also hated the bosses. I liked the normal gameplay a lot more. : razlebol
                      • If by improved you mean stayed almost the same, then yeah, they improved it. The coop wasn't actually as ... : ieGod
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          That's unnecessarily dismissive. There are plenty of people who own the console and agree that there's a... : deveus1
          • It is perception and not reality though. Looking through metacritic you'll find the number of exclusives ... : ieGod
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      I think once XBLA proved itself a lucrative market, you saw the big publishers clog it up. It's atypical... : SiW.
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        There are some real gems in the community games section. I was playing Miner Dig Deep all weekend! : adsriordan
        • Oh for sure. We've yet to see many real standout "artsy" titles though. : SiW.
    • I can see advantages to both approaches. MS seems to be going for a more coherent and streamlined experie... : Dave-A
    • Downloadable content is what sold me on PS3 actually. It's the only reason I have one. : sammyl
  • Rumor has it that Fez is going 360, and Braid ranks. : Boxelder
  • Uh.. they do? Most recently would probably be Braid. : uncleanmonkey
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  Yeah, and you can't really talk much about it without ruining it either. It's one of those things people : My Documents
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    you are wind blowing shit off plants : Luminair
    • wats da big deal : Luminair
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  I really find Noby Noby boy achieves the same effect in a much less cheesy way. Or at least it's self co... : Boxelder
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    you jerk off into it and feel sort of ashamed afterward : boring gegtik
    • IT TAKES A WHOLE BOX, OH YEAH : Boxelder
• needs more mattplays. : SlamDunk
• Noby Noby > Flower : MoreVespeneGas
• I think I'll finally dish out the 10$ for it... : razlebol
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  i watched some shackers play this at Beef-'s place one night for about 20 minutes. Seemed pretty boring. : dantastic
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    You're boring! : eonix
    • your mom's boring : dantastic
• i'm sure someone said the same of Daikatana :) of course i'm not comparing the two :) point is, i wouldn'... : araczynski
• It's fun, and neat, but not perfect. : Magus

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  lol "violation of this precept grates against all good things and the way of nature" : Begawkiness
  • hahaha I love the escalation of everything at the end, thanks I enjoyed that. : Begawkiness
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  So what's proper etiquette if someone attempts to talk to you, just ignore them? : FPSDavid
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    I believe it's considered polite to turn and face them while carrying on the conversation. : aux7
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      WRONG! that's 2 violations, no talking AND no direct eye contact! : dantastic
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        But the whole "pissing on the guys leg" thing is fine in your books right? : aux7
        • i aint pissin anywhere except in the plumbing : dantastic
  • bark like a dog : GloriousCow
  • stare at his penis : cptstern
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    suck him off : SockMonkeh
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      when is this not polite? everybody loves a bj. : [fry]
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        When you've just had your junk surgically removed due to cancer. That's when. : ieGod
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          Then you can just lick my Ken-doll smooth area. : riptyde
          • hahahahahaahahsdiufhapisey8faopisueyf : Downforce
  • Turn and face him, bark like a dog, stare at his penis, then suck him off. : DrWaffles
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    this is the original reason that the founding fathers put a concealed carry permit law in the Constitutio... : boring gegtik
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      it's true. there's a card in the back of every one you buy. : Fyunch Click
      • If I had the script installed, I'd LOL this. Instead, I RealLife Forwarded it twice. : AxeMan808
  • Give him the look http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=whatthe_short_xypdfdabjyk2fnnv8o6o.gif : Prototype
  • you slowly bring your gaze up from the stream, always keeping a straight and solemn face and then you tur... : sKetchflow
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    short 1 syllable answer, no eye contact, then go use a stall : dantastic
    • i'm talking if you've like already started to piss at a urinal and someone says something to you : FPSDavid
  • slowly look up and down his body and then lick your lips seductively. : edgewise
• "Hey, buddy, nice watch" : Juno
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  Ah come on... its fucking exagerated... : Utopia
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    thats me in the video : boring gegtik
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      yeah i bet you are the guy in the blue shirt who is getting raped by crazy ass punks hahaha : Utopia
      • wtf man not cool : boring gegtik
• Didn't cover any foot tapping protocols so it is kind of an incomplete guide. : semaphore
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  this lost me at the adjacent urinal thing....that happens all the time, not a big deal. : kainen1
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    The whole thing is exaggerated, it gets completely nutso by the end : Begawkiness
    • No, I've seen it happen. : DM7
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    naw i will use a stall if that happens... if there are no stalls free i may kill time by washing my hands... : dantastic
    • or hold it for later.. unfortunately if i use a public restroom it's usually no time to hold it : dantastic
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  I always take the urinal next to someone just because I don't give a fuck and find it funny that so many ... : razlebol
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    Maybe you caught the gay? : DM7
    • Didn't we all? : razlebol
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  Wash your god damn hands. This goes out to you employees of the Chicago Sun Times. I'm pretty sure 90% of... : Chod
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    haha i always tell my female friends how most guys dont wash their hands when theyre done in the washroom... : dantastic
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      I won't shake hands with anyone I meet in a bar because of this. It disturbs me how many people I see com... : uglysad
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        or even better, they just swipe their fingers under the tap for .05 seconds, dry, and walk out. that'll : busdriver3030
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          You should try pissing into the urinal not all over your hands. : sigpro
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            it's not a matter of not pissing on your hands. as a friend of mine said, your dick is probably the clea : busdriver3030
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              And I've seen studies that show washing your hands without soap gets rid of just about as much nasty stuf... : sigpro
              • exactly. i would shake your hand sigpro : busdriver3030
    • At a call center job we used to keep a list of no washers. It was extremely awesome to see the uncomforta... : anhero
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    You have to perfect the no-touch strategy. This is what I do anyway. Not going to get into details but ... : TheNiXXeD
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      so your hands dont smell like your sweaty dick, pee particles on the backs of your hand? i dunno just fuc... : dantastic
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        I don't pee on my fucking hands in the first place. But then if I don't touch my 'sweaty dick' as you pu... : TheNiXXeD
        • splashback, dude : dantastic
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  If there is someone else in the bathroom when I am shitting and I do an amusingly loud fart, I sometimes ... : Beady
  • Evil laughter? : drodver
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  http://i43.tinypic.com/el4jms.jpg shit muffler thread got nuked? come on. : Phil
  • An odd thread, but one you couldn't look away from. Kinda like fat girl porn. : Fyunch Click
  • hahahahaha jesus christ Phil : pukerat
  • Yeah wtf? : voodooraze
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    Is there a list somewhere of the rest of these? :D : jbury
    • I think phil makes almost every new one that appears on the shack. He should really make a folder : anhero
  • GAMEFLY DOESN'T LIKE SHIT MUFFLERS!! : AndyGoin
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    The little penis is all I needed : rosewood
    • you quoting your wife again? : CoRDS
  • His boner is hilarious. : pancake humper
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    The whole damned thing would be nuked if it didn't have a video. I really do now understand why poop t... : anhero
    • what dipshit did that? : Fyunch Click
  • Hahaha amazing. : Utopia
  • BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GODDAMMIT PHIL : r3dn3ck
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    I want a shit whistle tip : pyros
    • Da Wizzle goes POO POO : DOOManiac
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      It goes WOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! : FPSDavid
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        then u got da flows man : Flying h4x0r
        • den dey be trippin' 'bout da flows. : yacoub35
      • Dats only in da mornin'. You spos' be up shittin' brefas, so it's like an alarm clock : Rag and Bone Man
      • Whacha wanna POOOO POOOOOOOOOO? : coldfusioncs
  • HAHAHAHAHA jesus fuck : Downforce
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    why'd they nuke it? wtf? : biskits
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      Utopia did a poop manfesto subthread which is against the rules. : Phil
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        then nuke the subthread, not the funny! :( : biskits
        • Phil's post was a reply to utopia's post because one of his requirements was that people use some sort of... : OverloadUT
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      it hit a little too close to home for some of the mods. : deathofrats
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        I myself use a muffler regularly and did not appreciate some of the replies. : thekidd
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          what the fuck is a poop muffler :-( : zerog83
          • http://www.magnaflow.com : yacoub35
• A lot of this goes out the window when you're at a sporting event and urinals are replaced by a 1960's er... : PointlesS76

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• Hahaha what. : omnova
• holy crap. how does that not fall off? :D : mwasher
• god damn! : Shadowdane
• Oh wow : Serpico74
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  how loud is it? : cltcprd
  • probably not very loud at all. That looks like a low-rpm 120mm fan. : pancake humper
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    noctua fans are basically silent.... got 2 in my righ : miasma(&)
    • ***rig : miasma(&)
  • very nearly silent... I have the noctua nh-u12p SE (same as the one pictured but with a second additional... : rgoer
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  Hah, yah I have a huge Asus heatsink that's pretty much that big. http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?... : plunkymeadows
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    http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=16&l2=65&l3=0&l4=0&model=2042&modelmenu=1 This is just ridiculous... : pyros
    • Hah, a collector's edition heatsink wtf? : plunkymeadows
    • That's about the same size as my Tuniq Tower. I absolutely hated the default Intel HSF due to the pins, ... : bipolar
• haha what the fuck. Is that a MINI FRIDGE in your PC?!? : jingletard
• If you turn it on does it create an atmosphere for Mars? : sesmaster
• the noctua looks like a massive rip off of the thermaltake series. : Klebold
• how comparable to a zalman? : Iwannaacura
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  I love huge heatsinks; I've been running a Scythe Ninja on mine for a year and a half: http://the_archvil... : the archvile
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    Mines huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge http://87.194.136.91/asusheatsink/_DSC0606.jpg : Toraz Chryx
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      running a Tuniq Tower here. http://www.leimrod.com/p180/21.JPG (not my pc, just GIS'd) : bipolar
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        that's... o_O : Toraz Chryx
        • That shot makes it look bigger than it really is. Another pic: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4353/h... : bipolar
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    Yep, been running this one for a few years now. Fucking awesome. : ateam311
    • Ninja's are awesome, but they're a pain with intels peg mounts IMHFO :( : Toraz Chryx
• This is my heatsync too! Pretty good deal considering the two excellent silent fans it comes with. Runnin... : pyros
• Why praytell do you have three dimms installed on a Core 2 Duo ? : Toraz Chryx
• What voltage do you run? Three memory sticks? : Freon
• That's retarded. : Godhatesfatpeople
• wait that's a CPU or a GPU? lol : packav
• im surprised by the replies in this thread, dont you all know most nonstock heatsinks are this size : Chandler55
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  I bought this heatsink for my Athlon 4400+ X2 which I never used: http://pebui.shackspace.com/Pictures/O... : Sailor of Fortune
  • ah the 2 liter technology is brilliant, isn't it? : packav
• what settings are you overclocking too? FSB? Vcore? multiplyer? (or is it locked?) : dignan
• that's a noctua nh-u12p, good choice :) : rgoer
• I have that heatsink, works great, but damn man all heatsinks are such a BITCH to plug in to those mobos.... : kainen1
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    weird i broked the first link http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=therm1_fme9hvdxaf1newxqsnlm.jpg : smacknca
    • that is what i use! and it is fucking massive indeed. :D : xsoulbrothax

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• *their different perspectives = three different perspectives. Seemed like there were three commentaries o... : David Craddock
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  Preacher was a fun read. : ThomW
  • The Preacher comic with Bill Hicks in it was genius. : Wolfanoz
  • Indeed. : preacher
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  Sandman is a good series. : r_picmip 5
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    Some of the vignettes in Sandman are really fantastic. The one about Emperor Norton is particularly good... : ZTac
    • I loved that issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton : theargent
  • I really need to get back to Sandman. : Deathlove
  • God I would love to read these again. : Mr.Finkster
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  now that you've read the best superhero graphic novel go read the best graphic novel http://en.wikiped... : cptstern
  • Yes, and Maus II! : manlyman
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    sounds... depressing : Arctic Fox
    • it is, but it's a well written story : cptstern
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    and then, when you're done being depressed and you like any of the Alien movies go and read this one just... : Marauder IIC
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      Your description made me want this book, then I looked at the cover and immediately judged the book as so... : re-verse
      • Here are some more covers you can judge the book by :) http://www.robotplanet.co.uk/USERIMAGES/ALIENS- : Marauder IIC
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    I've been meaning to pick this up. : re-verse
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      it's sad depressing however it's the height of what the medium is capable of : cptstern
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        I don't agree at all. It might be one of the greatest works of the medium, but I don't think it's one of ... : Chris Remo
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          well you cant compare the body of work of an artist with a single book.. Maus is a good stand alone examp... : cptstern
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            I think that by being reserved with its visuals though, it kind of by definition doesn't reach the height... : Chris Remo
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              well steve ditko, jack kirby, alex raymond, all giants of the field dont hold a candle to many of today's... : cptstern
              • I can't decide if this should be O_O, LOL'D, or just ignored. : MoreVespeneGas
      • Maus is highly overrated in my opinion. Due to the content of the story, and its timing are the major rea... : MoreVespeneGas
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  Transmetropolitan! Or Atomic Robo. Or webcomic collections! Gunnerkrigg Court or Dr. McNinja! : Deathlove
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    holy shit dr mcninja is awesome! : ass-street
    • It's one of those rare cases where really absurd humor and situations are used without feeling "lol rando... : ZTac
  • Seconding Transmetropolitan. : hawkeye
  • Transmetropolitan is my favorite out of all the comics I've tried. : Goncyn
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    Atomic Robo is awesome and needs more love. I picked up the Agents of Atlas trade last week and I'm lovin... : Rauol Duke
    • I just got the second Atomic Robo trade in the mail today. It was a pretty awesome day. : Deathlove
  • Everyone needs to read Transmet at least once. Also, my iPhone is named Filthy Assistant :D : djkenohki
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  Batman The Long Halloween is really well done. : manlyman
  • Agreed. Probably my favorite Batman story ever. : David Craddock
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  I think Batman RIP is going to be pretty confusing on it's own. You might be better off starting from th... : mexicanimator
  • Also, you should look into AnimalMan and MiracleMan for more meta-commentary on the concept of super hero... : mexicanimator
  • Hmm, good idea. I think I might go ahead and read RIP since I have it, but I will start at the beginning ... : David Craddock
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    is RIP in TBP yet? : dahanese
    • the hardcover version just came out a few weeks ago. It's really nice, oversized with some bonus stuff ... : mexicanimator
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    You can really skip Ra's Al Ghul too if you don't want to spent the money. It has some stuff with Damien,... : Rauol Duke
    • That's true. I guess it's mostly set up for the stuff that went down in Nightwing and for what's coming ... : mexicanimator
• Ooooh I'll be watching this thread for next time I feel like a graphic novel. : Arctic Fox
• I've just started Consider Phleblas. Someone recommended it to me after reading the latest Peter Hamilton... : LoioshDwaggie
• Fables, The Authority (Warren Ellis issues only), Walking Dead, From Hell, Lost Girls : hawkeye
• Go read Maus. It won a Pulitzer Prize. : Lone Swordsman
• The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is good, I also liked The Ultimates. i was on a TB tear about 2 ... : quazar
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  LOL, after Watchmen I'm not reading V for Vendetta. : baronzemo78
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    V for Vendetta is fantastic. : hawkeye
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      i'd like to read the comic, because i thought the movie stunk. : anthonybean
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        I actually enjoyed the movie too, it's different and not nearly as well written, but I felt like the esse... : hawkeye
        • I thought the book was poorly written, honestly. A smattering of ideas and plot threads that get rushed a... : Modica Sol Solis
        • Except the fascism/anarchy divide in the original book was co-opted to be a democracy vs terrorism argume... : Arctic Fox
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  Maybe you guys can answer this question....what is the series of comic books in which Batman was really o... : lookitzpancakes
  • Sounds like one of the Frank Miller Batman books. : Jonathan
  • Sounds like the "Shadow of the Bat" Venom storyline. : theargent
  • Neither of the two....just looked at some pictures and didn't see anything. It was one of those thin comi... : lookitzpancakes
• I have to go pick up my Walking Dead volume 9 hold at the library. Great series. I'm also waiting for n... : SiW.
• Just Snow Crash. I bought the iPhone Kindle version as a test. Not sure if I'm completely sold on using ... : Chris Faylor
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  Read the Sandman series, from the beginning. That and Hellboy, MUCH better than the films. : deathofrats
  • If you enjoy Sandman I would recommend Lucifer as well. : Evil Benius
• check out Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War for Marvel greatness : Mindfried
• The Walking Dead was pretty fun to read along with WWZ. : Psigun
• "Know it All" by A.J. Jacobs. great book, he read the entire encyclopedia Britannica , fun book : dignan
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  Ugh. Skip Batman RIP. That's what got me to stop reading Batman monthlies after 10+ years of never missin... : jason bergman
  • Oh, I've read Year One. I'm a huge Batman fanboy. Year One, TLH, and Dark Victory have prominent position... : David Craddock
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    I can't even understand this. Morrison's Batman has been the only interesting DC stuff in a long time to ... : Rauol Duke
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      Final Crisis and Batman RIP are some of the worst recieved storylines in the DC universe in a loooooooong... : MoreVespeneGas
      • Any reason? : Rauol Duke
      • Morrison was one shrooms when he wrote them : Clay
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      Yeah, it's just you. RIP was nonsensical gibberish. Batman acting out of character, lame, weird subplo : jason bergman
      • Oh, snap. Bats used a gun? That's awful. :( : David Craddock
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  Read the best comic ever written, The Filth. : TVsRobLowe
  • I read The Filth while out of my mind with a fever and delirious and I think I may have understood it bet... : Rauol Duke
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  Have you read The Dark Knight Returns? Sin City. A History Of Violence. Sentences: The Life Of M.F. Grimm... : AxeMan808
  • I keep meaning to pick up that M.F. Grimm one. I love that kind of stuff. The Alcoholic was amazing and r... : Rauol Duke
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  From Hell and the Promethea series. : Mr.Finkster
  • Oh and JTHM, ofc. : Mr.Finkster
• 100 Bullets and Preacher : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Preacher, Powers : Serpico74
  • Yes, POWERS!!! : whore
• Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind and Battle Angel Alita are two of my favourite manga. there is a gr... : miasma(&)
• The Walking Dead, Y: The Last Man, Fables. : Fred Garvin

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  nothing : dirge23
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    Actually, I'm throwing it in the box with that top-loading NES El Tigre sent to me for my WE and sending ... : ThomW
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      it shall take a portion of my No! all of my cunning but i shall unlock the secrets of digital copy. muah... : kbnerd
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        Well, I hope you like the movie. It's one of my favorites, hence my Blu-ray purchase. :) : ThomW
        • i've never seen it. but i promise i'll watch it. : kbnerd
        • I like it, but it's super draining for me. After I finish watching it I feel like I need to take a nap. ... : ZTac
    • Dude send me that top loading NES... : Schnapple
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  ZUNE! : deathofrats
  • what can brown do for you? : wetard
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  You don't have a zune? Wow that's weird ;) : MagicWishMonkey
  • he doesn't have an iPhone either : PapaBoo
• Send it to all your friends who want to watch it? har har. : ra1n
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  Isn't that a Sony disc? Warner Brothers got it right - with The Dark Knight I could chose either Windows ... : Jonathan
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    It's Warner Brothers. That's part of what I find so puzzling -- this came out after The Dark Knight but ... : ThomW
    • Oh shit I just realized I missed an opportunity to use the word "baffling' in that sentence. : ThomW
• There's some wmv>ipod converters out there, if you feel it's worth the effort (probably not). : waxthirteen
• This is just proof that they still just don't get it. : spazzium
• it's cool, i found a digital copy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trOij8SPIAo : dirge23
• i think i got one recently that is the opposite. works in itunes but nothing else. sucks : feek
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  http://xkcd.com/488/ I think this pretty much sums it up. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Same thing goes for those damn unskippable FBI screens that only legitimate customers are subjected to. : ThomW
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      The first time my grandma saw this screen when we got a VHS player in the early 80s she went "oooo, I lov... : jimmy_legs
      • At least on VHS you could FF through it. : ThomW
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d82Lq2rVB_4 : rock elf
      • Actually I would steal a cop's helmet. : rosewood
      • I used to see those ads and think to myself, "Man if stealing a car was as easy as downloading torrents I... : sKetchflow
    • Man I loved DVDs when they first came out because they didn't have all that shit. It was just right to th... : sigpro
• Yeah. It's fucking dumb. I couldn't get the thing to work on my PSP at all for me copy of the Dark Knight... : razlebol
• I think the real point of the "digital copy" nonsense is to make the average person believe that making t... : Schnapple
• So what you're saying is you don't like Windows Media Digital Copies. Digital Copies that can go on your ... : MoreVespeneGas
• wtf? every digital copy I've seen allows you to use it in either Windows Media OR ITunes -> It has both ... : sludge vohaul
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  Id say if you paid for the blu-ray, any fuck who wants to argue you cant download a free copy of it for y... : chilln
  • I would agree with this. With DVDs you could rip and encode it yourself, but BD drives aren't common on t... : pyide
• I thought it'd be the other way around. : thejm4n
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  I should work with iTunes. I just find the whole concept weird for HD movies. I have this awesome vers... : jason bergman
  • I meant *it* should work with I itunes. I DO work with iTunes dammit. : jason bergman
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  Related question for my iPod: I have a digital copy of Wall-E on my iPod. I put it on my office comput... : UtilityMaximizer
  • Answer: you should buy another copy of it through iTunes : pyros
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    The movies have the same DRM as songs purchased from the iTMS so they're linked to a specific Itunes stor... : Prozium
    • There doesn't seem to be any kind of authorization option with any of the movie files. Hmm. : UtilityMaximizer

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  As far as production goes, it's amazing, I don't think there's any argument about that. The story was al : SiW.
  • I had a lot of fun with it and would love to get around to playing it again. I didn't mind the change in... : melkore
  • they improved the shooting mechanics a lot from previous games. octocamo also makes the game a lot more f... : Shai-Tan
  • I was hugely satisfied with it, but ultimately prefer MGS3. Had MGS4 been more uniformly paced like its ... : sevogajre
  • I'm pretty in love with the MGS series, and overall i did think 4 had great gameplay but holy shit the st... : choppp
  • Yeah, I agree with the combat part. It also soured the MGS2 ending for me. It was a pretty forgettable ... : Grimp
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  IBR, I hear the cut scenes in that game get kinda long. : metalremains
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    they do, and the ending is over an hour long, but it completely ties the entire series together and answe... : gmd
    • With NANITES which was the entire reason I hated the game's story. : LoioshDwaggie
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    you can pause or skip them, and they look absolutely fantastic. the story was continually lame but everyt... : pyide
    • YES! This is probably one of the main reasons I don't replay the game as much as I'd like. : sevogajre
  • 90 minutes! http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52828 I still can't believe Nick posted that >:( : skitzo
• I bought it but only played for 10 minutes or so. I need to play again sometime : MagicWishMonkey
• It's the only Metal Gear game I have ever played. The thing is, it was pretentious. It was like that ... : virus
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  Reposting I guess: I wouldn't call myself a huge Metal Gear fan in the sense that some people are, but... : Chris Remo
  • =O : Mondo
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    so...Far Cry 2 > MGS4 sry...couldn't resist : byorn
    • Well I mean, I liked it more, yeah. : Chris Remo
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      I'm sorry, but to me you sound broken. IMO Farcry 2 should have been a driving game in Africa. It seeme... : notdeadyeti
      • That was meant for Remo. : notdeadyeti
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        Yeah I guess I'm broken : Chris Remo
        • Lucky for us, your lovehole ain't. Saddle up, boys! : disposition
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        Far Cry 2 is attempting to do so much but fails in so many ways. The game feels like it is artificially ... : manlyman
        • It does fail in a lot of ways. But in the end, my enjoyment outweighed those things for the bulk of the t... : Chris Remo
• I played the game a few months ago and stopped when I was roughly halfway through. If I ever play it agai... : PointlesS76
• I generally tell people to not play MGS4, even though I myself finished it four times. : shyguy74
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  MGS4 is one of the best games ever made in my opinion. All of your complaints, and I mean all - most ... : MoreVespeneGas
  • I can certainly see how the gameplay would be more satisfying at a higher difficulty level (and that's ho... : SiW.
• :(. One of my favorite SP game of all time. : razlebol
• I'm really looking forward to the iPhone game. It's the closest I'll come to playing MGS4. : WhatIsThisFor
• it's sad to see so many jaded gamers, it increases every year. MGS 4 was beyond awesome, the only thing t... : jayares
• The only thing I might go back and change is the awkward Japanese humour - but that's been around since t... : Bamtan
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  I think for being the PS3's flagship title, it was pretty weak. It seemed more of an interactive movie t... : jingletard
  • Which is fine. I understand it's not what everyone wants of a game but I appreciate games like this. Same... : razlebol
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  heres my rebuttal gta4 sux ass : Chandler55
  • I was disappointed with GTA4 too - and certainly enjoyed it less than MGS4 - but I don't have so much emo... : SiW.
• I bought a PS3 bundle pretty much for this game and I only played it maybe 4 hours. So I'm not going to p... : Sailor of Fortune
• Disagree pretty much entirely, but yay, that's what opinions are for. I still can't believe they actually... : Conan
• I had an erection pretty much the entire time I was playing MGS4. : DOOManiac
• I liked the gameplay and thought the vehicle portions were a nice break from the normal gameplay, but tho... : bcyde
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  MGS4 is a movie with cutscenes of gameplay. I've played through it twice and played all the rest of the ... : sukabljat
  • The only other game where I felt like I watched more than I played was Dreamfall. : shyguy74

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  But I'm out of bookshelves and room to put new bookshelves. WHAT NOW : Deathlove
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    get a bigger appartment you cheap bastard. if you have enough money to piss away on a kindle 2 you can af... : Hoax
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      i have a house in the house there are rooms, with furniture, and people :( : Deathlove
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        get rid of the people. all they do is occupy place and consume oxygen. : Hoax
        • and that's MY oxygen!!!!!! : Deathlove
    • A dude I know had a personal library built next to his house because he had so many books it was getting ... : Arceihn
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      Seriously? This logic is so awesome. I pay about 2x the cost of a Kindle for my monthly rent. Movi... : crimrOw
      • someone here sure sucks at the whole sarcasm thing. : Hoax
  • Where I put Book?! Nooooooooooo :( : Psigun
  • http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/8/25/ : Chris Remo
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    ebay/craigslist a few dozen of the books you know you'll never read again. : riptyde
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      That's what I'm doing. (and White Elephant!) Then I'm getting rid of the bookshelves and putting up Art. : Deathlove
      • Adding another person will just deplete the oxygen more rapidly. : Fyunch Click
• yeah the fact that the kindle kills loaning books out really ruins it for me :( : re-verse
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  the kindle just seems like tech-for-tech's-sake to me. : dirge23
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    If you don't consider that you have access to a full bookstore as long as you have a wireless signal then... : Jonathan
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      Considering that I spend days or weeks reading a book, and that I pick up a few books at a time when I do... : Zakko
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        And? It's not like the Kindle has to be the universal book reader for everyone. It's more valuable to som... : Jonathan
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          I didn't say anything remotely approaching that, but it has zero appeal to me. : dirge23
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            Well what does tech-for-tech's-sake mean? : Jonathan
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              it means it's not worthless because dirge23 says he didn't mean that. : carnivore
              • I thought between the two of us I was captain obvious... : Jonathan
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              well what does "seems like...to me" mean? to me, it's a gadgetization of an already perfected invention t... : dirge23
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                I have to agree with this, the only thing it has over actual books is that it saves space which is not wo... : crazywigga
                • It's not an LCD screen. It's electronic paper. It is much easier on the eyes. : LoioshDwaggie
                • The Kindle screen is seriously no different than a book to me and completely different than an LCD screen... : hawkeye
                • It's not LCD, you have to see it in action. : ieGod
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                What are the huge drawbacks? And I see quite a few benefits. The library-in-your-hand has already been to... : Arceihn
                • clicking on a word you don't know to find out the meaning I love that feature, but I really wish it co... : hawkeye
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                Maybe you're just exaggerating in your posts to make a point and people are calling you on it. Like in t... : DinK
                • maybe benefits are subjective : dirge23
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                Huge drawbacks? Please tell me these drawbacks, I'd love to hear them. : Serpico74
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                  offhand: 1. high overhead cost in hardware 2. requires electricity 3. drm : dirge23
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                    1) is the only thing remotely close to a drawback. If you can't afford it, fine, but I personally see hug... : Serpico74
                    • Hell, I'll take it even further: With the exception of my art and coffee table books, if I could replace ... : Serpico74
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                      i didn't say the device has no value to anybody. but it doesn't offer me anything that the existing combi... : dirge23
                      • This is a better response than the "offhand" criticisms you had, which were basically nothing but FUD sav : Serpico74
                      • Go to Borders, they usually have a display model or two of the Sony Reader (a competitor) on display. E-i... : Arctic Fox
        • Didn't say it's worthless, I gave my personal opinion. : Zakko
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        I read a book every few days, and this has been the most incredible thing. Since I usually have 2-3 books... : LoioshDwaggie
        • For people who read as many books as you do, it's certainly a nice gadget. : Zakko
    • You know what else is like a full bookstore? the library : Super Sparker
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  I ordered one. The free 3G net access is what intrigues me. Being able to hit up my newspapers, contrac : Lunatic Angelic
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    I want one so I can travel without having to lug heavy books and magazines around. Man that would be nic... : riptyde
    • Oh man, rip, think of Wikipedia lightweight while on the can... this device was clearly made for our fat : Lunatic Angelic
• amen. : Zakko
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  I just can't make the leap in my brain. I can deal with buying games digitally, because they are inherent... : Chris Remo
  • I bought a couple of computer books where Amazon offered me an electronic copy for a few dollars more... ... : Jonathan
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    I'm exactly the opposite - I'm very excited that books are finally becoming digital products, things that... : Sexpansion Pack
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      That would suck. Imagine authors in their failing years of life going back and fucking up what was previ... : gooblerampling
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        clicks the set read only button, or perhaps the view previous revision button. I'm not saying I'm a big ... : goatboy
        • It's kinda like the old ones no longer exist because when they bring the movies to new media you get the ... : SockMonkeh
      • Fortunately - text doesn't need remastering every couple of years. Besides it could be really fun to have... : Jonathan
      • Like Orson Scott Card? : LoioshDwaggie
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      I love books being in my home. I grew up in a house with books all over the place, arranged on nice shelv... : Chris Remo
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      • I save those shelves for women. : Lunatic Angelic
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        I'm the complete opposite; to me, books, DVDs, CDs, these are just *things* that have what I want inside ... : Deathlove
        • The peanut analogy is good I like that. : hawkeye
      • I'm the same. I started collecting vinyl records (both new and old music) because there's something about... : sparkly
      • I'm not sure how you can do this for games then. To me it's all just an experience. Before books we ha... : ieGod
      • you can pass on your steam account to your kids : Chandler55
      • the kindle is a great way to decide which books are worth owning a physical copy of. : thief
      • i agree completely as far as books go. Not so much for film however. And as far as music is concerned i ... : disembodied potato
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      I think there is an experience with words on paper and the feel of a hefty book in your hands that will b... : bipolar
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        but it's really nothing like that analogy at all. there is nothing inherent about a book's physical pres... : electroly
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          OK, then use the example of a DVD recording of the concert in 5.1 audio. By all rights, the sound should... : bipolar
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            there's nothing "inherent yet undefinable" about the benefits of a live show versus the album and of the : electroly
            • Like I said, reasonable people will disagree. : bipolar
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              i also think text vs. audiobooks is an inapplicable analogy because it's not the exact same text, it's a : electroly
              • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19392781 : bipolar
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              But there's an easy way to test if you're objectively right, as compared to it being a subjective matter.... : bipolar
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                who said there were zero negatives? big negative number one: it's $359 : electroly
                • I'm making the assumption that they will follow the general trend of electronics and become cheaper. : bipolar
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                This logic is so wrong. Please stop this thread before it gets worse. : hawkeye
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                  I disagree. If there is a product that is clearly inferior to another in all (or even the vast majority)... : bipolar
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                    The problem with the logic is even when something is objectively better it's not used by 100% of people. ... : hawkeye
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                      I also can't really think of any Consumer Electronics that is 100% objectively better than another. : hawkeye
                      • Right, but we're not comparing two pieces of consumer electronics. We're comparing technologies, where i... : bipolar
                      • 8 tracks -> cassette tapes CDs -> tapes DVDs -> CDs HDDVD -> DVD hahaha okay maybe not : mmogger
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                      Can you name an example of something that is objectively better in every way that failed? The only def... : bipolar
                      • Something about this logic makes me feel like I'm running into a mirror and coming back out where I start... : hawkeye
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                I doubt they'll ever fully disappear, just like record players haven't fully disappeared. I can definitel... : Arceihn
                • That's a good example for my post here: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19392894 I would venture to ... : bipolar
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                There are negatives in certain use cases definitely. The Kindle is awful for programming or reference ma... : hawkeye
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                  It'll kill the market for Choose Your Own Adventure books :( : bipolar
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                    Actually it'd be perfect for CYOA books, you could use the hyperlinks to jump to the page you chose. : hawkeye
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                      That would be nowhere near as fun as having to use all your fingers, and when you run out of fingers maki... : bipolar
                      • Man that is not how you read CYOA books! I always started from scratch every time I messed up. : Arceihn
              • This is a dumb strawman. He was saying your analogy is crap, and it is. I don't think anybody is tryi... : DinK
          • books have a history, i love buying old copies owned by other people, i love reading second hand editions... : disembodied potato
        • I disagree. : lasercat
        • i disagree completely : Modica Sol Solis
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          I disagree totally, and so do many authors. Why do you think that so many books have an "about the font" ... : re-verse
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            they don't have fonts on e-readers? : SenorSpine
            • Not an infinite selection (although they could) : Ebu
      • It's a compromise - I'd love to keep all my books in a library but it isn't practical anymore. Also for e... : Jonathan
      • You "think" but you don't know. I've read dozens of books on the Kindle at this point and the process of : Serpico74
    • Same here, I've become increasingly repulsed by clutter as I get over and the accumulation of physical cr... : Dave-A
  • My thoughts exactly. You should pay maybe a buck extra and get a digital version when you buy a physical ... : gooblerampling
  • Isn't this how most people sounded 10 years or so ago regarding music? : Vincent Grayson
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    I can't make the leap in my wallet. Until I can check out e-books from the library, I have little intere... : SiW.
    • Quite a few libraries offer e-books (mine doesn't though), you have to convert them to Kindle format (whi... : hawkeye
  • Do you also like to rub your CDs or something? : rosewood
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    While I don't get the love for the Kindle, the Stanza app on my iPhone get more use than any other app I ... : Clay
    • Love for the Kindle comes down to this: It is a much better reading surface than the iPhone. If you like ... : Serpico74
  • I completely 1000% disagree. Game boxes and media are clutter, and for me I feel that same way about a bo... : Serpico74
  • I have had such a completely different experience with the iphone Kindle app than that which you just des... : sludge vohaul
  • Over the years there have been books that are now "lost" to us in any form, and while I don't think the p... : Frozen Pixel
• Indeed. : gooblerampling
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  I missed this one. lol http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/2/23/ : boring gegtik
  • that's the funniest penny arcade i've read in a long time. : ass-street
• Books are furniture and a reminder of a good story or information. Having it in a physical form where oth... : Psigun
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  I think in the end physical books are going to be like record players. Quaint and amusing, but only still... : Arceihn
  • That's a seriously depressing thought. : r_picmip 5
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  Remember when digitial distribution killed music stores? Well, they did. And it sucks. It's going to do t... : Cihte
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    Remember when the horseless carriage killed blacksmiths? : Deathlove
    • remember when science and reason killed religion lmao : boring gegtik
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    Fuck that I hated music stores. I much prefer to get my recommendations from people I like online then l... : hawkeye
    • but but but liner notes : Arceihn
  • you could argue that borders, amazon, and barnes and noble already did that. Compare the amount of small ... : mindmann
  • Yeah, well no it didn't suck. In fact basic economics suggests that buying shit on cds sucked and so ever... : locater16
  • well actually online stores havent killed music shops, illegal downloads have, if there was an easy and r... : disembodied potato
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  I bought my Wife one last week and she loves it. Now if they'd only make them backlit. : Simulacrum
  • I think backlit ruins it. I think even with e-ink staring into a bright light is going to strain your ey... : hawkeye
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    The Sony e-reader has side LEDs that cast light on the top of the e-ink (since it can not be backlit) and... : Awun
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      Give it time, we will have backlit e-ink. : rosewood
      • An equivalent would be like OLED and e-ink combined, where the ink actually glows. Not much point in back... : dooberzoo
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  The romantic notions associated with having physical copies of books do not apply to 99% of the books out... : scythide
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    Books have been around long enough now that you could really spent most of your adult life reading, and n... : re-verse
    • While I don't disagree, the meaning I take from a book is from its ideas, not from the paper it's printed... : scythide
• I like the smell and feel of an old book : EvilDolemite
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  Most of my books come from the public library. I'm worried that the shift to digital/e-books will screw o... : tashtego
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    you bring your cheap kindle-like device to the "new" library, and they upload you a digital copy that las... : re-verse
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      One of the things I miss is browsing at a book store. That is win. : LoioshDwaggie
      • I like browsing on the Kindle but I agree it's lacking. Does anyone remember Amazon's bookshelf concept ... : hawkeye
    • Except what seems more likely to happen, given the way every other attempt at digital media is going, is ... : tashtego
    • librarian is a gui Orlando Jones? : rosewood
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      I hope there are enough people who have no desire for a society where everything is automated with GUIs t... : Chris Remo
      • Where there are GUIs, there is no place for human dignity. : ayesel
    • they stopped books being read aloud in a robot voice, I'm sure the idea of a new kind of library wouldn't... : 60days
• I was meh on it but someone came into work with one today and I have to admit it's a very well designed d... : SolrFlare
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  Yeah, I hope Kindle fails. : WaterSign
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    http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=hope+fails&cs_user=WaterSign&cs_parentauthor=&s_typ... : re-verse
    • Hahaha! Just a tad temporarily bitter about a nuked post. But still, it would make a good meme, yeah? : WaterSign
  • i'm sensing a pattern with you JPB. : hirez
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  man, I love the new Kindle. I read a lot, and I often am reading multiple books concurrently. It is not ... : sicko
  • OK that does sound pretty awesome. You just sold me @_@ : r_picmip 5
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    It's so goddamn ugly though. It looks like some sort of poorly designed, rebadged product. : dooberzoo
    • you've never seen one in person, have you? : sharpie
    • The first one did, I agree. That complaint isn't quite as valid on the new one. : Conan
  • are you a speed reader? I still have more material then I can read in a year sitting on my shelf ;( : afrochops
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    sicko, do you (or Serpico74) know how the iPhone app affect's the phone's battery life? I'm curious. I'... : eugthinks
    • Affects without the apostrophe. Fuck, I never do that. :( : eugthinks
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  Dude : http://s5.tinypic.com/2gvpy60.jpg : Judicus
  • Mark I : johnlocks
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  The Kindle is my favorite tech gadget in years. The Kindle app that just came out for the iPhone puts it : Serpico74
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    It's my favorite device in years also, I love it. I love it so much I almost bought the Kindle 2 even tho... : qwpeoriu
    • That too, I'm pretty much out of bookshelf space (and I own one of these big things for my art books): ht... : Serpico74
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      My friend posted a great blog on it a few days ago: http://feliciaday.com/blog/kindle-oh-kindle : Serpico74
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        Yeah, I pretty much agree with her. I would add one more negative in that the selection is good, but I st... : qwpeoriu
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          One thing she kept bringing up when I told her about mine when I got it last summer was the whole "but it : Serpico74
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            That's because it is possible to find the same -- or a very similar -- pleasure in holding your kindle, w : thief
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              Poorly put--another time later I'll write another post. : thief
              • No, you nailed it. They did a great job with the interface. It is book sized and there is nothing distrac : Serpico74
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  Question for the naysayers: Have you actually gotten your hands on a reader with an e-paper display? I : Serpico74
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    That's pretty amazing. How long does a charge last? : Marauder IIC
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      Four days with wireless on, about two weeks with it off. Thing is that its rated by page turns (it only u... : Serpico74
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        That sounds excellent. I was skeptical about the idea when I entered this thread, but more and more, to m... : Marauder IIC
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          I suggest checking out the PRS-505 reader if you have a SonyStyle store near you. I think they might even... : Serpico74
          • When mine arrived, it had a plastic protective sheet on it, and instructions on how to turn it on. I peel... : Githyanki
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    Yes, at CES. My lack of interest in the device isn't really related to the quality of the screen. : Chris Remo
    • I see. So you're mainly attached to physical books themselves. : Serpico74
• I'm seriously consiering one for these reasons: * I never know when I might want a new book. If I have... : uncleanmonkey
• the kindle is great. I'm an english student/graduate so I'm all for the 'trappings of a physical copy' a... : thief
• Kindle has one key advantage: books are fucking heavy when you move. : Conan
• i love my beaten up books, but every time I pull out an "old" book from a box and my allergies go crazy, ... : stgulik
• I just read books on my iphone when I want to go digital. It makes sense because I CAN KEEP IT IN MY POC... : ease one
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  I like the Kindle, but I want both 1. Canadian support and 2. a colour display for it to be perfect. you : Postal
  • Color will get here as soon as color electronic inks are more feasable. Bezos has said in an interview a ... : Conan
  • On the subway the other day I saw someone using that Sony e-book reader. It's pretty cool. : TwiLyght

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• dude you'll save so much money you'll need a scrooge mcduck vault to swim around in : Dave-A
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  when everyone quits smoking how are they going to make up the lost revenue? : burningpantsman
  • The government will bail them out of course. : hashd
  • increase taxes on cigarettes, how do you think we got to 5$ a pack in taxes. it's an endless reinforcing ... : mmogger
  • selling weed : sKetchflow
  • Savings on medical costs. : freqq28
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  They were, like, $2 a pack when I was a kid... : Cihte
  • I used to spend my lunch money on a pack $1.25 :( : hashd
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    I remember $.75 a pack for Marlboro Red's. : Githyanki
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      i remember vending machines w/ packs of smokes in them :| : -=kodiak=-
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        They still have those, but they are in bars and casinos! : devi| dog
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          not in any bar/casino in ontario. : -=kodiak=-
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            It's rare that you see them at bars.. except I think every casino I've been to has them. : devi| dog
            • the casino i worked at didnt :P and that was on a native reservation too. although they did sell sm... : -=kodiak=-
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  As of last October, I would have spent $38,664 on smokes had I not quit nine years earlier. It's fun to c... : jason bergman
  • holy fuck thats insane : yAak
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  1 week 3 days w/o a cigarette for me!* *down from nearly a pack a day for the past year. : focusdaily
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    reading this thread makes me want a cigarette, though :( : focusdaily
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      think ill light up right now. : -=kodiak=-
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        *blows smoke rings* : suqur
        • I gotta get out of here. : focusdaily
  • Good for you! I smoke a little over a pack a day. I have 1 smoke left and I am already stressing out that... : hashd
  • I've quit since Dec. 23rd 2008. Cold Turkey! : bling1bling
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  If you quit Korban will give you a kiss. : Koral06
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    Can we pick a girl shacker please? : hashd
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      I'll give you a kiss baby : ateam311
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        Oh hell.... /me runs to buy another pack! : hashd
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          Better buy a carton cause I'll be waiting outside your window for you to run out : ateam311
          • Hahahahahaha : hashd
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      He is close enough for most shackers. A kiss from him will be the most action I have seen in years! : Githyanki
      • and i am DAMN good at kissing, so i'm told :) : Korban
• I think smokes are going up $1 in Washington State next month. : Prototype
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  Packs of magic the gathering cards are getting more expensive too >:( : kaddar0
  • Just wait till they ban magic the gathering in bars. : skitzo
• Lets take bets on what gets taxed next. I say videogames. Healthcare costs from obesity don't pay themsel... : aldraek
• Time to GETSNUS.com! My buddy who is trying quit told me about this stuff (wiki page http://en.wikiped... : crimrOw
• I'm glad that I don't even know how much cigarettes cost. : sanchez
• SIXTY-FOUR days smoke-free here! : zerog83