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• Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. : ArcKnight
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  Isn't the starter edition for developing markets, not for small computers? It seems like Home Premium wo... : electroly
  • In my own experience, all people that buy computers with a starter edition around here just take the PC t... : Nitrium
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    No, starter is the supercheap one they use on netbooks. Same reason netbook XP is liimited to 1gb I think... : jcupitt
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      XP on netbooks isn't limited to 1gb. They can't be sold with XP if they have more than 1gb of ram but use... : Prozium
      • sure, but you have to buy XP again for that, or you're violating the EULA : jcupitt
• this is going to confuse folks who already have three apps in the systray : cpt_gloval
• O_o what : AllYourBase
• http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10172140-64.html : dumb.
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  why would you post something like this completely out of context? it's for poor as fuck countries, on poo... : feek
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    it is for netbooks people here will buy, not for africans using vacuum tubes : Luminair
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      source? : feek
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        hmm what a surprise : feek
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          Brad Brooks, corporate VP for Windows Consumer Product Marketing [said] “These engineering investments ... : jcupitt
          • perhaps in an effort to bog our pockets down. with money. : yakz
        • the quote in the original post is from the cnet link above. what more source do you need? it says the s... : Luminair
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    http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+starter+edition+to+be+sold+in+developed+markets : electroly
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      ... and for low-cost netbooks in the developed world : jcupitt
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        man if only netbook manufacturers offered you some kind of choice as to the OS you wanted on it... what d... : mikecyb
        • whatever OS you like, as long as it's not XP, I think is the rationale MS need an OS product at this s... : jcupitt
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        this is the point i was making. to be sold in developed markets

        Feb 26, 2009 3:49pm PST
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        this is the point i was making. to be sold in developed markets : electroly
        • oops, sorry, need new specs : jcupitt
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  Stupid, stupid, stupid :( What qualifies as an application anyway? A process? an entry in the task list... : GloriousCow
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    Doesn't matter, you'll never get the option to buy it. Starter is for third world nations. : umcpwintermute
    • poor poor canada : CoRDS
  • When I had vista starter as one of the OSes on my testing laptop I believe it was 3 applications that hav... : semaphore
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  At least this will limit people's malware infections : theamazingrand0
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    But once you're infected with three things you're fucked bigtime. : inchwide
    • lol : TrptJim
• So basically its a web browser with maybe Word, AIM, or a small game running in the background. : handofthrawn
• Seems reasonable. It's like the iPhone limiting running apps so it doesn't degrade performance. : Dave-A
• haha. chrome is fucked. you get 2 tabs! : epit
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  Doesn't Intel already limit the hardware specs of netbooks by only allowing ones of certain screen sizes ... : ShekkyBoy
  • wintel bullies manufacturers into not making netbooks too good, yes : Luminair
  • The XP license agreement thing is what limits netbooks right now. This is why the Mini 10 can only be sol... : rosewood
• So it's just like the equivalent version of XP? : d fluke
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  i think the main thing this will be used for is digital signage, and maybe point-of sales. I can't think ... : SolveChrist
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    That is what WinCE and their other embeded products are for. Starter has been said for developing nations... : rosewood
    • yea forgot about ce. you are correct sir : SolveChrist
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    No, it's ONLY to be sold in thrid world nations. : batkiwi
    • this was true for XP and Vista but for Windows 7 Starter Edition they will indeed be selling it in develo... : electroly
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  I have 18 user based processes running on my Vista machine, six of them are device driver related. To ac... : metalremains
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    Yes, you're right. Everyone at microsoft are retards. Or maybe they actually know more about this th... : uncleanmonkey
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      Is a task tray icon a app or process? How about when you open the IM window from task tray is it an app t... : metalremains
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        How the hell should I know? I'm just saying that you shouldn't assume everyone is a retard. They're not g... : uncleanmonkey
        • ...they might. : skryte
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      Hahah, there's nothing magical about an app that takes up a task bar slot. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Not yet there isn't. Maybe because you're not running Windows Starter Edition? : qsylvr
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          MS isn't going to make any drastic changes that might break backwards compatibility with software written... : MagicWishMonkey
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            you know that two major versions of windows have shipped with this exact functionality in, right? this i... : electroly
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              I never said it was impossible, I said there's nothing magic about an app that uses a taskbar entry. ... : MagicWishMonkey
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                okay? i'm not sure what you're arguing exactly. : electroly
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                  Me either, just pointing out that MS will probably not limit apps based on whether they show a taskbar en... : MagicWishMonkey
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                    and i'm pointing out that they will and are currently doing exactly that. windows xp starter edition and... : electroly
                    • Ahh ok, interesting. I didn't realize that. : MagicWishMonkey
              • Which also makes it extremely difficult to use for your average user of this OS. It's not meant to be ... : uncleanmonkey
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        Yes, 'cause clearly you need magic to limit the number of apps in the task bar? Have you written a lin... : uncleanmonkey
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          yes I've been writing windows apps with C#.NET since the end of the beta in 2001 Enabling/disabling th... : MagicWishMonkey
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            i think you're on a different page than the rest of us. nobody is suggesting that applications with task... : electroly
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              Ok, is that for sure how they are planning to enforce the restriction? It seems kind of odd : MagicWishMonkey
              • yes, microsoft has stated that this is how it works. taskbar tray icons don't count, but when you click ... : electroly
          • Who claimed it was magic? Nobody. You claimed it needed to be magic, so perhaps you should reconsider you... : uncleanmonkey
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            Oh, and about being "hostile", maybe that had something to do with the fact that you wrote a post in a pr... : uncleanmonkey
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              I wasn't trying to mock you dude, chill out ;) : MagicWishMonkey
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                Yes you were. That or you're extremely bad at communicating. Pro-tip: Laughing at someone and then charac... : uncleanmonkey
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                  You're the one that assumed he was laughing at you and not the limitation, chief. : omnova
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                    Uh, because that's what he wrote... See, there are these threads here, where you can follow what someone ... : uncleanmonkey
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                      I wasn't laughing at you dude, sorry if you interpreted it that way. If I had a magic time machine (oh sh... : MagicWishMonkey
                      • What were you laughing at then? You responded to my post saying "haha", and then characterizing my argume... : uncleanmonkey
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              Lighten up, Francis. : omnova
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                What makes you think I need to lighten up? I just think that when someone says "HAHA" at someone and t... : uncleanmonkey
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                  Maybe you should learn to be correctional without resorting to outright hostility. You know, like reason... : omnova
                  • Which I do, assuming the person didn't act superior when he didn't know wtf he was talking about (you kno... : uncleanmonkey
                  • You obviously have never read a thread full of programmers before! : SenorSpine
  • Applications are not the same as processes. Microsoft isn't going to limit the number of processes the o... : WhatIsThisFor
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    Is a "process" always considered an application? : not work safe
    • as metalremains pointed out (well, he was going this way but then came to a totally ridiculous conclusion... : electroly
  • Are you running vista? Bring up the tank manager. How many applications are listed? : Horn
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  bwahahahahahahahaha : sKetchflow
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    gwaahahahahahahha : Mr.SEX
    • ahoo hoo hoo : mindmann
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  thats lame fuck micro$oft : wtf242
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    BILL GATE$ IS EVIL : jingletard
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      M$ $UCK$ : razlebol
      • More like M$ SU¢K$ : TheNiXXeD
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  My iPhone is limited to one, so whatever. Oh, I kid... : dmason
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    The iphone runs a ton of shit in the background. Most programs can only rely on 20 megs or so of memory ... : Horn
    • Oh, I kid... : dmason
  • You can fix that! http://code.google.com/p/iphone-backgrounder/wiki/Documentation It'll be limited to : DOOManiac
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  Ubuntu is used on a lot a netbooks already. Surely this will just push more consumers over to linux if th... : pieman
  • Yes they will, they have confirmed it ^^^ It's just for the super-low-cost $200 netbooks. : jcupitt
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    i dont see the problem with 3 app limit for netbook. Sure its a sledgehammer to try to keep memory use do... : filthysock
    • also, since you can do everything almost in the browser now, it should be much of a problem : filthysock
• Considering what HP is doing with the mini 1000 mi edition, this seems particularly shortsighted of them. : Conan