Empire: Total War Demo Now on Steam
The demo packs two missions, the Battle of Brandywine Creek and Battle of Lagos, in which players take control of the British as they fight off the French and Americans.
Requiring Steam to play, the full game his PC on March 3.
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Sambula
replyAnother game that I have to have internet connection to play single player with?
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...stop beating a dead horse, i'm pretty sure its dead.
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You also have to have an Internet connection to complain on video game sites.
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Hella good point!
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not really good, playing sp game should not require the same things that posting on forums does. I refuse to buy all these online requirement games. only games i buy that require internet, are mp games only.
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um ok then uh enjoy living in the past, pre-steam world my fellow luddite.
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i still use steam, just only for purely mp games, if valve goes down, i only lose my mp games which makes sense. I dont lose all my sp games.
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you realize they have stated multiple times that if valve were to go under they have the steam unlock codes/patches ready to go to make any of their games playable.
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i trusts valve word as far as i can throw them. ive seen and experienced where what they say is not what they do.
such as the soulstorm deal ended almost 24 hours early. price was back at $30. they still had the ads showing discounted deal. i contacted support, they gave me some lame response about when the times of deals end, i responded if that was true then the deal should have been open for another day because nowhere in the world did the times when deals end fall within those hours. my reply went unanswered obviously.
ive almost been banned from the forums because i made a post in the suggestions area, people loved it, a mod started being an ass, i called him out on what he was saying and how it had no relevance to my suggestions. thread was deleted, i was warned, i tried to contact an actual official about their actions and they basically told me to go away.
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its not just the demo, im refering the whole game in general. retail also requires steam activation.
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its the matter that you can get your games to work in offline, its the fact that any internet is required at all. that is the bigger issue at hand.
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I think they figure any computer that is capable of playing the game will likely have an internet connection at least once, and to be honest, I would agree with that.
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stupid no edit button.
the requirement of having any internet connection to play an sp game at all ridiculous. i still go back and play my old games and not have to jump through hoops. its not gonna stop pirates, its just a hastle, if i buy a game, i want to just pop in disk and install.-
seriously...the last time i had a computer w/o some way to get on the internet was like 1995.
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thats not issue at hand here
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pretty much, i grew up and started playing pc games back in late 80's without having to jump through hoops. the whole idea of being required to authenticate with some server to supposedly prove that i bought the game, something which isnt going to stop pirating is just absurd to me.
in regards to steam, i dont want to tie tons of games to it, for the fear that if something happens to my account. the very least that would happen would id be vac banned. and with the steam rule of "sorry go buy your games again" rule I dont feel like being screwed out of my hard earned $.-
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never had the decoders, but id much rather go back to the days of looking up the word on such and such page. i trust myself to keep my stuff safe.
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again, demo is 1 thing to require downloading. but if i go buy retail i shouldnt have to deal with online.
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For all the pushback here, this is a very legit point raised by Sambula. What if you want to play on a laptop and you don't have the slush fund needed to pay for Wireless High Speed Internet and/or you're not around any wireless networks at all?
I hate this trend for the most part. If you can't see how it makes you even more reliant on people you shouldn't have to be, then I guess you're happy to walk around with your head in the sand. ::: shrug :::
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How did you hear about the game? Watching G4? STFU
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You have to connect to the internet ONCE to play this game, you just activate it and then turn Steam to offline mode. I don't think connecting to the internet ONCE is unreasonable, considering the alternatives.
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alternatives include such as not having any online authorization, just like all my other total war games. this is one ill be skipping on due to the steam requirement.
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Did you also skip Medieval 2: Total War because it required the disc be in the drive when you play it?
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...how does me saying i dont like online authorization while mentioning that i have the other TW games and play them equate to me not liking disk checks?
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Both are minor inconveniences for the sake of copy protection. You seem to be fine with one method, but firmly against the other. For me personally, the Steam requirement is far less intrusive and annoying than a disc check.
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Why is it such a surprise to be for 1 type and against another? Wouldnt that be completely obvious? Online Registration =/= simple cd check, hence 2 diff types of protections, so 2 diff types of opinions.
I don't see how its less intrusive to be forced to register an SP game with an online service where if something happens to your account (ie Hacked) your SOL. Something happens to the service your SOL, Not to mention that if you don't want the game anymore and would like to sell it or give to a friend, no can do since your game is tied to your account.
So if its less intrusive for you to be forced to hand your games over to a company to keep track of what you own, rather than just keeping on disks in a safe place, then go right ahead. But I on the other hand live in the real world where less intrusive actually means not having to deal with middlemen to play my games.
How did it become so OK for companies to control what we purchase for the sake of not having to use cd/dvds in the drive.
When did putting in a cd/dvd in a tray become such a hastle? Are kids today really that lazy?
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Those are good points. You do lose the ability to resell or give away your game, and yes, the service could go down (or you could lose the ability to play during a local outage). Your account could get hacked, but Valve is pretty good at helping people recover those from what I've heard. All valid points.
I thought you were against the Steam requirement simply on moral grounds, and I was wondering why one form of DRM didn't bother you while another bothered you to the point you'd pass up a game for that reason alone.
I personally don't resell games, so that aspect doesn't bother me. I do give them away from time to time, so that will suck 3 years from now when I'd want to give E:TW to a friend, but that's not a critical issue either. I don't think Steam is in any danger of going down any time soon, so that possibility doesn't enter into my decision-making process at all. When Steam gets shut down in 2027, I won't care that I lose the ability to play E:TW (or they'll patch out that requirement long before then).
CD checks annoy me, especially when I want to play games on my laptop.
Anyway, good discussion. I'd prefer no DRM at all, but if I have to tolerate something, I'd prefer Steam over the alternatives (Stardock, disc checking, etc).
I predict you will be very disappointed come the next generation or two when every game is purchased through digital distribution and/or tied directly to your account. That's the way things are headed.-
Yea I see where PC gaming is going and I find it quite dreadful. I still cling on to hope that a handful of developers will keep pc gaming closer to what it once used to be. I still have hope in Bethesda and CDProjekt.
I guess on the bright side is, I am getting older and a lot busier. So by the time 1 or 2 more generations of games come out, I should be working on my MA or finished with it. So ill be focused more on getting my career started.
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What alternative? Waiting a few days after release till the pirates make a "patch" and not even bother with Steam? I buy all my games and am tired of having to deal with DRM B.S. when a few days after release the pirates already cracked the code just for sh*ts and giggles. There has been no DRM to date that has worked. And yet you people will just say, heh everyone has internet so whats the big deal. You keep giving up freedom for the hell of it and for what?
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This "DRM B.S." allows me to:
1) Download/Install on any PC as many times as I want
2) Not have to worry about CD keys or physical media
Being pissed off about activating is fine. However, there's benefits to the game requiring Steam. If there were no benefits to activating I would be pissed, but I prefer games to be on Steam solely for the reasons above.-
And for the guy that likes to walk into a store, but a game and walk out? Do they get any concern or is it only for people that want to download the game every time their computer goes tits up for whatever reason. You've covered your angle but no one else. No DRM is good for every person. Some DRM is only good for a few.
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You can still go to a store, buy the game, and walk out. You'll still have the disk, manual, and everything you're used to. It's just once the key is tied to a steam account you don't even need the disk or product key anymore. A year later if you want to play you don't have to find your disk or that one page in the manual that has the product key. You can just redownload it if you want to. Hell you can make a backup of the game if you still want a disk. I don't know about you, but it's pretty convent to me considering I've bought games twice in the past because I couldn't find my disk or product key.
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how about those of us who keep track of all our games, i still have dos games in boxes with all the manuals.
Id rather be responsible for my games rather than worrying about something happening to company, or account where i can no longer play my legit games.
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People in this thread are making a big fuss without realizing that the internet might not be a stable connection for some people. When mine goes down I'd like to play some CoH only to find I can't until it validates through steam.
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