Morning Discussion

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  If they are going to support mouse and keyboard then I want a way to find multiplayer games that are cont... : Evil Benius
  • I see this as the next step for Live - a standard matchmaking service that all multiplayer games use. : Begawkiness
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  I want at least 3 more years with the current consoles. : lacker
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    For future consoles I would like to request huge (2 TB +) hard drives because I really am too spoiled by ... : lacker
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      Truth. Even if they do some stupid crap like you can play without the disk only if you are the original o... : Ebu
      • Pretty much the only reasonable way would be via online retail. You buy a specially signed version of the... : uncleanmonkey
• decent amount of built in storage (ssd, hdd) but also allow additional upgradable storage in addition to ... : Mmmmmoo
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  Hardware that doesn't die after normal use. Games that don't need patches. : capt tripps
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    software should be perfect : derelict515
    • They did pretty damn good before hard drives were standard. : Derringer
• I just hope multiprocessing doesn't get even more convoluted. Making games is hard enough already! : SeaLlama
• I remember my first $100 on RB DLC :( : Deathlove
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  Better fucking d-pads >: : ghost in my shell
  • Isn't this because of Nintendo owning the patent for the d-pad, making everyone else just use a circular ... : Derringer
• are you really serious about those things? isn't it obvious how important they are? the current generat... : Luminair
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  i want dev costs to be really low so there are just a shitload of games released for each console and dev... : Mr.SEX
  • also i want the hardware to not suck shit next gen and every console should just use live for anything on... : Mr.SEX
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  I want to be able to sit down on anyone's couch and access my profile in all of it's glory in under 20 se... : SockMonkeh
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    Yes I don't understand why it takes so God damned long just to use your profile on someone else's console... : Begawkiness
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      As I understand it, the lengthy time is due to the system needing to verify all of the download content t... : deveus1
      • It still takes about 10 minutes for me transfer my profile and I only have Bionic Commando and like 10 RB... : Derringer
  • This is why I was happy the new arcade unit I got still had the memory card. I moved my account over to t... : sigpro
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  Online play should be free up to a certain point. First 10 hrs a month free. Power gamers that play 10h... : mnsnota
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    Whoa, no way. Free online gaming is the way to go. It works well on PC, PS3 and is functional on the Wi... : melkore
    • I would love for it to be free also but I am anticipating negative responses if I were to claim that Live... : mnsnota
    • Until the PS3 and Wii match Live in functionality Microsoft has no reason to make it free. I still find i... : Evil Benius
    • And look at how the better service on XBL causes that online community to thrive compared to the others. ... : derelict515
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    They could also make the cost of XBL hidden by taxing dlc. : mnsnota
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      Apparently Microsoft is going to be decreasing the cost of Live. : manlyman
      • Good to hear. : mnsnota
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  I would love to see Sony remember what made them such a hit in the 90s. : haiku
  • Square? : lacker
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    hmmm, a large number of innovative games and next to no competition, I'm not sure they can pull that off ... : Luminair
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      They had to compete with nintendo and sega. Now they have to compete with nintendo and microsoft. I figur... : haiku
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        I was watching this go down when you were mugging other skateboarders, look at this, this is me being rig : Luminair
        • ^^it's like haiku punched him mid-post : lacker
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          Microsoft had something competitive next to the ps1? : sigpro
          • no that was a braino for nintendo : Luminair
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          the launch titles for the PS1 were shit : boring gegtik
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            fuck you gegtik tekken disagrees. : lacker
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              i liked ridge racer the best of the launch titles (tekken was a launch title ?) : qwpeoriu
              • this post made me realize I am incapable of not reading 'ridge racer' as 'riiiiiiidge raaaacer' :( : mikecyb
          • The entire first year of PS2 titles were terrible with a tiny number of exceptions. Just on games alone, ... : qwpeoriu
          • holy shit WRONG : Luminair
          • You shut your dirty whore mouth! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : HojuSimpson
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            2extreme was the shit. I used to always play as the skateboarder and hit top speed, and jump right before... : mr.sleepy
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              jumping flash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2hukvZ0zBw : mr.sleepy
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                oh man that game was the shit1 : mikecyb
                • holy crap I deserve to die for missing the shift key : mikecyb
              • That game kicked so much ass : OverloadUT
              • That game was great! I liked the puffy birds that said "kiwi!" while hang gliding. : helvetica
              • I'm pissed they never brought over the 3rd one. I don't know why they don't release titles like that in ... : pyrogen
            • That was the worst game ever sleepy. : ieGod
          • i thought warhawk and gameday were pretty fun. : xxiv
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            Battle Arena Toshinden ! (I agree with gegtik) : bozer
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              wait nevermind i think im confusing with dreamcast maybe. I remember one of those consoles had such shitt... : bozer
              • The Dreamcast launch was great and the PSX launch was pretty bad, IMO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li... : pyrogen
          • holy shit just stop : virus
        • Nintendo and Sega were both pretty competitive but what set Sony apart was their ease of development. The... : ieGod
  • The Discman! : nodebug
  • An unsophisticated audience willing to put up with shit? : SiW.
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    Fuck that I want Sega to make a game system again. :( : voodooraze
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      they can barely make a game anymore, much less a system : pyrogen
      • too damn right. : Klebold
    • Hail, Dreamcast brother. : Endymion_
• I'd kind of like orthogonal persistence. There's too much waiting around to actualy get to what you want ... : uncleanmonkey
• lest you forget, the PHANTOM will revolutionize this......... really makes you think..................... : Downforce
• 100% downloadable games, I don't want to buy discs anymore. Better controllers. 360 dpad sucks but ... : Richese
• Ability to install games from disk with only periodic disk checks (like, once a month or so) to avoid hav... : Masem
• As I've stated before, Solid State Drives will be cheap enough by then and likely the standard. : Sailor of Fortune
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  mouse + keyboard support for FPS games : grandmasterlee
  • I agree, but say for any game. : bombay
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  Anyone ever saw "The Dream Machine" on Nintendo Power about 10 years ago??? I never found that thing agai... : davidc02
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    I remember that, it was a contest to see what designs the readers could come up with for a new console. : AgentPothead
    • I've been looking for that picture since... : davidc02
• anti-aliasing : godhatingatheist
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  Online game library, from which I can "checkout" a game to play it. I buy a game online to add it to my o... : GodZilly
  • +INF this. Physical Media is DEAD. Bury it. I want a console that i can use without media. : trevis
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  The ability to reliably render at least 720p at 60fps. : SiW.
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    This is a little ambiguous. With what features enabled, how much geometry on screen, etc ... This ability... : qwpeoriu
    • Well yes, developers will always up the ante when given increased processing power, but I'm saying that I... : SiW.
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  I would not be surprised if backwards compatibility is dropped from future consoles. Any increase of hard... : ahlee
  • Sony isn't really ok with it either. There's like 1 game on the PS3 that supports mouse and keyboard onli... : derelict515
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  No more moving parts! They can go back to cartridges and scrap the optical drive. My Sega Genesis from 20... : Jeepy McJeeperton
  • I don't know if there's an industry for the multi-gigabyte ROM chips that would be necessary to go back t... : the archvile
  • Not possible with modern cpus and gpus, you will have to have a fan at the least. : Richese
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  i want a controller with invert switches built in. i play inverted and i hate having to hit a menu (somet... : cpt_gloval
  • I agree with this, I'm the only person that plays inverted in my circle of friends and it pisses them off... : Derringer
• Ability to wake up the console from the web by buying stuff. So I can go online at work to buy a new game... : uncleanmonkey
• Has anybody said a controller with a scroll wheel? I'd love if my 360 controller had a wheel I could use ... : AgentPothead
• Smellovision. : father_crown
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  a standard controller for FPS/third person games, maybe a wand like the Wii but more accurate. : Shai-Tan
  • i'd prefer a trackball for one of the thumb pads over anything wii-like as a standard for FPS : qwpeoriu
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  Cloud : cookblaze
  • Exactly, storing savegames online so I don't need a stupid memory card to prevent starting games like EDF... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  There needs to be a better way to type stuff, although I guess voice chat is pretty ubiquitous now. Those... : wasylm
  • Wireless keyboards can be used with all current generation consoles, and I have one that works great. Wha... : ieGod

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  Traveling is awesome in Fallout 3 (assuming you don't quicktravel, but that's on you) : dirge23
  • Yeah, because it's permanently exploration and adventure. Not having the Charisma for Animal Friend was s : node
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    I'd agree except for the DC area. Those subway tunnels make it a pain to get around. : Horn
    • Yeah, it is a shame there are those big walls. But when you find enough places it's not that bad. : node
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  Oregon Trail was all about traveling? no shit sherlock it's called the Oregon Trail for a reason : cptstern
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    I'm not sure how I can make what I said clearer. My point is that travel in most games these days isn't f... : S1ing B1ade
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      Yeah I mean who doesn't like to have to caulk a wagon or ford the river and 90% of the time lose a lot of... : Chod
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        Frankly I think this idea that loss != fun is what is killing MMOs these days. Obviously it has to be bal... : S1ing B1ade
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          what's fun about threat of loss when you're just traveling around? that sounds terrible : electroly
          • Go play WoW then. : S1ing B1ade
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          Wouldn't an Oregon Trail MMO be awesome? Of course, it would probably devolve into racing wagons, and op... : Lone Swordsman
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            a "Settling the American West" historical MMO would be crazy awesome. I'd be a Comanche straight out of B... : dirge23
            • Fucking right it would! I've been watching this 4 hour documentary on Lewis and Clark for the past coupl... : changejar419
          • As long as there was a class with a "Dispel Dysentary" skill, I'm all in. : changejar419
          • I can't wait for the Oregon Trail Arena Tournament to begin! Match up with an opponent, then hop off you... : slax0r
          • Even better they could have a Civil War mmo. : plunkymeadows
    • I know what you meant I was just being facitious : cptstern
    • I see what you're trying to say, but the "random shit" that happened during Oregon Trail wasn't some extr : action wombmate
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    ... : kaddar0
    • this is the response to cptstern i was looking for, thanks. : dirge23
  • what is this post? : abovedefault
  • wtf is with people getting so angry over something benign? "boy, i really like flowers!" "OHHHH H... : burning eye
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  The first time I saw anyone use the fly power in City of Heroes was awesome. I was a newb teamed with m... : cerealSAM2
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    CoH's travel powers are awesome. Super speed is also a lot of fun because it forces you to think ahead, ... : Finestaut
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      It's cool because it makes you become familiar with the map, too. But it's aggravating as hell in the a... : cerealSAM2
      • Yeah, Redside sucks for super speeders, fortunately, it's easy to grab jetpacks over there. : Finestaut
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    'toons' It's like fingernails on a chalkboard. Nothing personal, but ugh. : skankcore
    • It's weird how some people just hate on that word. :) : cerealSAM2
  • City of Heroes was the first thing I thought of when I read the OP. : Johnny Law
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  This is what people are complaining about in FarCry 2! Me, I like it! : wendigo
  • I sort of like the travelling but I really hate having to get out of the car every 10 seconds to kill the... : Splinebastard
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  I'd really like to see an RPG that was based solely on conversations and diplomacy. It's all I really enj... : mittense
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    It would be you and a bunch of teenagers running around screaming, 'no u, fagort!' : cerealSAM2
    • He didn't say MMO. : thetangent
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    As dull as any game based solely upon a single concept - A game with nothing but combat and no depth or f... : T-900
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      What's dull about a game based on a primary concept? It's dull if it's done wrong or handled poorly, but ... : mittense
      • In a lot of classic political situations, violence was the automatic failure case, and it would be cool t... : Mad Jack McMad
    • Uplink was based on a single concept. And it was fairly fun. : Splinebastard
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    pencil and paper RPGs : abovedefault
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      Bah! It ain't a pen and paper RPG without some dice slinging and monster crushing. You're thinking of tho... : Mad Jack McMad
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        I love diplomacy in my RPGs. It's called RolePlaying for a reason. If you're not in character talking abo... : abovedefault
        • It's a mix of both, which is why I "bah!'d" at the idea of an RPG that was "based solely on conversation ... : Mad Jack McMad
    • Absolutely not. : mittense
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    I'm assuming you've played Planescape Torment? Apparently there's only four fights in the entire game tha... : Arceihn
    • I'm not sure how accurate this is, there are a number of dungeons you have to dig through in that game. ... : Finestaut
    • Fallout. There are no mandatory fights in the game (assuming you're willing to run from random encounter... : poindexter1985
    • I'd say Torment and Anachronox have the least amount of battles you need to fight in good rpgs : Mondo
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    Vanguard : graceofdragons
    • Yep. I did quite a bit of diplomacy when I played the game. : Pettytheft
  • Sounds boring as all get out, to me. Still, those avenues could stand to be better explored at least. : wytefang
  • The voice acting I thought was really good. That more than anything drew me into the diplomacy. : Smirks D
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    so basically you want a game like VTM: Bloodlines, only less broken, and further emphasis on character in... : TorpedoBeetle
    • ..except that Bloodlines degenerates into a combat heavy game, disappointingly. : SiW.
  • In the Massively Multiplayer world, there's always EvE. : Finestaut
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    The original "The Longest Journey" from 2001 was an absolutely fantastic game, and it had no combat at al... : duffman03
    • There was one moment of combat, when you had to outsmart that cannibal thing in the woods. Or at least i... : kallanta
  • It's called marriage. : bipolar
  • http://globalgamejam.org/games/din : Karnov
  • "YAWN" : Zman0404
  • MSN messenger. But seriously, not exactly RPGs but Pheonix Wright and some click and point Adventure g... : razlebol
  • Yeah man, choosing good/evil/nuetral a thousand times over is wicked fun! .... .................. .... ... : pleasedpig
  • Maybe there should be an RPG where you have to haggle for a good price against increasingly crafty used-c... : afroninja
  • its called politics, no thanks. : araczynski
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  Man, can you imaging an Oregon Trail game in the style of Elder Scrolls/Fallout? : Masem
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    Only with zombies. : cerealSAM2
    • And guns. Lots of guns. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  There are lot of great stories that involve the adventure that one sees along travel. Just take the Lord ... : Mad Jack McMad
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    I think if it is balanced by rewards it should be fine. Yes you might get ganked or drown in a river or g... : S1ing B1ade
    • If you want to keep the trips balanced even if you cover the same terrain you need to *gasp* auto-level t... : Mad Jack McMad
  • I laughed so hard at boar taints. : Clasifyd
• Far Cry 2 :D : mn3m0n1c
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  what about driving games smartass : boring gegtik
  • Because they're races and not travel? I think they're pretty different scenarios. : S1ing B1ade
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  You have died of dysentery. : Clasifyd
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    You have shot 2,102 pounds of meat. You can only bring back 200. : shaffe
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      There are elephants in Oregon? : Arcanum
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        do you really remember not shooting the hell out of bison in this game? : dirge23
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          er, not remember : dirge23
          • I don't think I ever played it very much. Maybe a few times, but I don't think I or my family ever owned... : Arcanum
        • Reminds me of that scene in Dances with Wolves. "Only the white man would have done this." : lolpatrol
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      I had a few friends who would spend all their money on bullets and spend all our computer lab time shooti... : Shadsy
      • using a next-gen engine, too...that'd be awesome. : MisterPhoton
    • hahaha, yeah! i'd use up all my bullets on one run. it looked like a fucking battlefield out there. : biskits
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  I would love to see an MMO that did not allow fast travel so that you would really begin to know the peop... : Evil Benius
  • Vanguard : graceofdragons
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    Umm, EVE Online? : Sailor of Fortune
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      I would like the idea applied to a more standard MMO. : Evil Benius
      • EvE *is* that standard MMO now. all of that IS available. : Downforce
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        The problem is, once you start applying those ideas, you stop becoming a standard MMO. Having a robust,... : Finestaut
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          By standard MMO I mean characters, towns, wilderness etc. As in not ships in space. : Evil Benius
          • Ok, so it's more a question of setting for you. That's a more reasonable request. : Finestaut
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            "take the great features of EVE and put them in the cookie cutter fantasy genre of the other 99.9% of MMO... : riptyde
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              Some people just enjoy that setting though. I appreciate what EVE does, but it just did not appeal to me ... : Evil Benius
              • World of Oblivion : Downforce
              • Well when they have players walking on stations, then you can come back. Scheuled for late this year. : Modica Sol Solis
  • Pirates of the Burning Sea : cpt_gloval
• to be honest it makes sense with the way games are made now. To-do list for game: - come up with al... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  Vanguard : graceofdragons
  • Now you've said it's name three times, and we're all fucked. Thanks. : Mad Jack McMad
  • http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_releases_new_stupid_piece_of : kamarov
• the early days of Asheron's Call were a good example of how amazing no fast travel can make a game. : grandmasterlee
• UPDATE: New Oregon Trail DLC adds herpes, oxen armor, and elephants to hunting minigame : Omaha
• Get in your car and go somewhere dude. : ejectorpod
• http://achewood.com/index.php?date=05132003 Read the next four strips, too. : Deathlove
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  Darkfall *cough* : m0rfus
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    We'll see. : SockMonkeh
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      My curiosity (sadism) will force me to buy this and try it , the subscriber only forums will be worth it ... : malus72
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        The Darkfall forums are the worst thing on the Internet. :( : SockMonkeh
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          I'm hoping to be able to finally see something that approaches Vanguard closed beta forum days , god I wi... : malus72
          • The Darkfall beta forums aren't quite as bad as the public Darkfall forums, but they are close. : SockMonkeh
• My favorite part of oregon trail was hunting for food though :( : CyCo_PL
• The original "The Longest Journey" from 2001 was an absolutely fantastic game, and it had no combat at al... : duffman03
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  Why do you need a game to make travel fun and exciting? : RikiTiki2
  • yeah he should just hop in his covered wagon and ford a river : thebigbeefsandwich
• I remember way back in EQ where I'd walk across the entire Norrath between the necro Erudite area to Free... : moe6
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  FALLEN EARTH HOLY SHITBALLS Seriously if you are a MMO player sign up for beta, do it now. : shortbuscaptain
  • Tell me about this, Shortcart. I don't believe I've heard anything about it. : valael
• With the way some boss fights are in games nowadays, most of the fun I have is the journey and not the de... : TrptJim
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  travel in morrowind was the best thing ever. : kill9
  • Until you started up the worldwide fedex quests, then it got kind of annoying. : Finestaut
  • after removing cliff racers via mod! : Joseph

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  how much money do I have : grandmasterlee
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    You have roughly $2000 CDN (this probably disqualifies alot of people) : carnivore
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      here's an example of one I was looking at: Samsung 52" LCD A550 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddeta... : carnivore
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        Gawd, $1700?!? : CrustaR
        • save $100! : moe6
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        I love my 46" A550. Can't go wrong with them. : mwasher
        • i have the same tv, and i love it! would def recommend : theWhite
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        Bump up to a A650, there's a side-by-side noticeable difference in the black levels. : Hiro
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          The price difference is $900. Is that really worth it? : carnivore
          • Yes, It is, although futureshop has the 750 which looks better(bezel wise), same PQ as 650 : nickjolly
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      I have to be honest, I would much rather pay $2500.00US and get a sweet ass 73" rear projection than spen... : grandmasterlee
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        I can't stand how even the really pricy rear projection tvs look, : re-verse
        • look how wrong you are!!! : CRaY SV1
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        Good luck moving that fucker. : Rehevkor
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          how often do people move their TVs? : grandmasterlee
          • I seriously fucked up my back once trying to carry a large TV down stairs once. It was only a 36 inch CR... : valael
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      For that amount? Plasma Plasma Plasma. If the diff were between, say, $1000, and $1500, and you absolu... : Endymion_
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        Go to a best buy or something before following this advice. I had pretty much an unlimited budget for my ... : re-verse
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          Is that a 120Hz set? : Endymion_
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            yes : re-verse
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              Well then you should educate yourself a bit about 120Hz sets. They look nice because they interpolate 60H... : Endymion_
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                can't you turn off the 120hz though? : wtf242
                • yes. : re-verse
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                Another of these fucking posts. 120 Hz is not the same as interpolation people. They're two different thi... : Conan
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                  Yeah? Well it is not getting a fucking 120Hz broadcast either, and it is losing detail from a 60Hz signal... : Endymion_
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                    It doesn't lose shit on a 60 hz signal if you're not using interpolation, and 24 fps bluray looks perfect... : Conan
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                      >It doesn't lose shit on a 60 hz signal if you're not using interpolation I love the if qualifier ther... : Endymion_
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                        turning it off kinda eliminates any need for 120Hz What? You even acknowledge the need for 120Hz when... : electroly
                        • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19183271#itemanchor_19183271 : Endymion_
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                        The whole point of 120Hz for film sources is to avoid 3:2 pull-down. : mn3m0n1c
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                          Mmno, you are drawing a conclusion that I didn't exactly say, as is our axe-wielding barbarian. I'll just... : Endymion_
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                            I drew the only conclusion possible, since you specifically bitched about interpolation, making it sound ... : Conan
                            • I know it can be turned off. Want to take a guess if it will be off on any tuned display at the store? Yo... : Endymion_
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                      are normal dvds at 24 fps? This 120hz still confuses me. some shackers say "AWESOME" and some say horribl... : wtf242
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                        120 hz is always awesome; the thing people object to is interpolation technology - basically, some TVs ge... : Conan
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                          That's only true for (many, but not all) video-sourced DVDs where the original show was videotaped at 30f... : mn3m0n1c
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                            Ah, okay; I wasn't sure since DVDs were around before most displays could handle that natively, and I did... : Conan
                            • It was a big deal back when DVDs first arrived on the market, because different players handled the 3:2 p... : mn3m0n1c
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                          Interpolation is the devil. The fact that it is even included in so many sets makes me so fucking pissed. : Serpico74
                          • Agreed. Also pissed because, as here, people get hung up on it and miss the real benefits. : Conan
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                            All of this could have been avoided if you film guys would just shoot at 30fps, Serpico! :D J/K, I know h : mn3m0n1c
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                              Jump in a fire : Serpico74
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                                :D : Serpico74
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                                  Only if you promise to shoot it at 120fps and run it in slo-mo back, and to the left : mn3m0n1c
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                                    I shot 300fps last week, that count? : Serpico74
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                                      Sweet! What were you shooting, stunts? Action sequence? : mn3m0n1c
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                                        People walking : Serpico74
                                        • Ooh, Koyaaniskatsi remake? :D No, I have no idea how it's spelled and I don't care : mn3m0n1c
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                        Do you put your PC monitor's refresh rate at 30hz or do you make it run at the highest possible setting ?... : MrLobo
                        • Well, no, it's not really the same for a TV, since there are hard set standards for the framerate on the ... : Conan
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                        Yes, 99.9% of film-sourced DVDs (and Blu-Ray discs) are in 24 frame progressive format on the disc. (Ther... : mn3m0n1c
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                          So do DVDs look better? or just HD movies? From a comment above it sounds like just HD : wtf242
                          • A DVD made from a film will look better, yes. A DVD made from a videotaped TV show will look about the sa... : mn3m0n1c
                      • 120 Hz is ONLY needed for LCD's cause they look like ass otherwise. Ghosting when anything moves very fa... : GoodBoy
                  • Frame-doubling (repeating frames to increase the refresh rate) is not the same thing as frame interpolati : mn3m0n1c
                • This. 120Hz and interpolation are separate features, and TVs that offer interpolation generally offer a ... : electroly
              • look how wrong you are... Nothing in your post is even remotely true. : MrLobo
        • Agreed - same with us, we went to three different stores and compared plasmas/lcds side-by-side (I even c... : dumb.
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          I love my 52" 750 samsung... the picture quality is amazing. If you get one, get on avsforum.com and us... : khaosman
          • Whoa, that's awesome. I just happen to be searching for calibrations for my new 40" 650 Samsung. : theangrywaffles
        • Plasma does not show off well under 1000Mwatt store lights. Especially for black level which is a plasma ... : DarkWolf5
        • Do NOT look at a store for determining picture quality - they set the TVs on ridiculous brightness/contra... : TabsAZ
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          must not have been a kuro on display then : gmd
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            wasn't there an article just last week saying they are not going to make Kuros anymore? : wtf242
            • yes : gmd
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              I don't know about that. I do know that Pioneer will not be producing their own panels anymore, and that ... : Serpico74
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                Pioneer hasn't made their own panels for like a year. : cltcprd
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                  incorrect : nickjolly
                  • My bad the agreement to switch to Pana panels was nearly a year ago. http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/2... : cltcprd
        • And you would be absolutely right, taking that tv home with the proper settings, it pales in comparison t... : nickjolly
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        the shack really does seem to like Plasmas a lot... strange because all the manufacturing seems to be goi... : carnivore
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          It depends on the set. I've seen LCDs that put plasmas to shame. : ieGod
          • You would never say that if you had them side by side at home : nickjolly
        • Plasmas are still going strong. Panasonic is introducing new plasma panels this year with the deepest bla... : Serpico74
• Don't just junk your rptv, you may be able to sell it on the avs forums. Sometimes the problem is nothi... : Wombat Woo
• go to a store that has 50" plasmas and lcds on display, done properly with good inputs. if the answer do... : Luminair
• samsung dlp : boomstickah
• Kuro or bust. : cookblaze
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    and seconded on cookblaze: Kuro or bust : Serpico74
    • I was contemplating getting the on sale 50 inch when my sxrd bulb blew but when I put in the new bulb it ... : gmd
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      Pioneer just exited the TV market, kuro's are great but their parent company is gone gone gone : GBeer11
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        Link please? The only recent news I've heard is that they're leaving panel production to Panasonic (best ... : Serpico74
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          http://i.gizmodo.com/5148562/pioneer-exits-tv-business-no-more-sweet-plasmas : hohoh0
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            Basically what it seems like they are doing and have been leading up to for a while is letting panasonic ... : sigpro
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              I see, so instead of having the upcoming Panasonic panels with Kuro tech and a Pioneer badge, it'll be al... : Serpico74
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                That would be my guess as to what is possibly going to happen. http://gizmodo.com/364842/pioneer-will-... : sigpro
                • Someone copy/pasted this recent press release, I wonder what the date is: "Pioneer will continue to fo : Serpico74
              • Yeah, the current Panasonics still aren't Kuro-class but they're definitely 2nd best by a mile for plasma... : midgetherder
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      you people are all rich : carnivore
      • Samsung 52 A650 LCD. Really nice. : peter
      • http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/PlasmaTVs+Monitors/EliteMonitors/ci.PRO : Serpico74
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        I got this one for $1600 CDN at Sam's Club: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertai... : cookblaze
        • i'll buy it off you for 1800 : silversurfer
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  LCD, definitely. : Richese
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    Seriously, who wants to buy a super expensive TV that can suffer from burn in? And they all have glare p... : Richese
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      So many inaccuracies. You can easily get a 1080p Plasma in bigger sizes for a cheaper price than an LCD.... : ant_hillbilly
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        Show me a decent Plasma that costs less than an LCD of at least equal quality. I'm sure there are some c... : Richese
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          Actually my viewsonic LCD TV and my old 2001FPW both had image retention problems. It goes away after tim... : qwpeoriu
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            That's ghosting, not burn-in. : Richese
            • What ? No, ghosting is aliasing when your source material is updating faster than your screen can keep up... : qwpeoriu
        • Depends on what you consider equal quality. However according to my standards. Panasonic 1080p Plasma... : ant_hillbilly
        • LCD that can compete with a Kuro http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN46A950-1080p-refresh-backlighting/dp/B0... : DarkWolf5
        • The terminology here is incorrect. Image retention is what happens on some LCDs. It's a non-permanent ano... : ieGod
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      Look at who doesn't know WTF. How cute. : Serpico74
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        No you don't know wtf. : Richese
        • I can do this for hours. : Serpico74
        • He works in the movie industry. I think he has an eye for these things. : carnivore
        • HEY that's my title in a TV thread, OK? :D : Downforce
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          breadloaf : sigpro
          • u fat pig : Serpico74
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      Plasmas no longer suffer burn in. They can suffer image retention, which is temporary and goes away afte... : bipolar
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        I can't get my Panasonic plasma to retain images at all, and I've intentionally TRIED to do it! I can wat... : Bold
        • Faster response time and more film-like images are huge pluses for both gaming and movies. In the case of... : Serpico74
        • You can still do it on the Panasonics, you're just not trying hard enough! none of that image retention : midgetherder
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  The new LED backlit LCD from Sony is reportedly as good as Kuro at black level response, so if you're goi... : Mr.Finkster
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    There is no plasma burn-in anymore. LED backlights are only good in some circumstances. If you're looki... : bipolar
    • The sony he is referring to is very close to a kuro for black, even using a star filled sky. : DarkWolf5
  • that sony is more expensive than a kuro. : DarkWolf5
  • its also 6-7 grand : nickjolly
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  LCD's look a lot better than Plasma's now. : Sailor of Fortune
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    They look just about as good; the only thing Plasma has on LCD is deep blacks but unless you're comparing... : Richese
    • Deeper black translates to better color. I can't stand how oversaturated LCDs are in comparison to a plas... : Serpico74
    • In my price range (sub-$1000), there was no competition. LCDs had terrible "pixel squirm", for lack of a... : bipolar
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      I disagree http://ded.zenblue.net/g520p_2001fp.jpg Even though this is a side by side comparison the ... : stgdz
      • I suppose none of us should see a difference since most of us are using lcd monitors. : peter
      • That 20" Dell is also an IPS. I have one of the absolute best 24" LCDs on the market right now, the NEC 2... : Serpico74
      • Plasma's can't be compared to CRT either though, so this image isn't really fair in the plasma vs lcd deb... : ieGod
    • The "only" thing? Really? : TrptJim
• I recently purchased a 46" toshiba regza (120 hz) and I'm VERY happy with it. The picture quality looks j... : 5150Joker
• Plasma has better picture quality bar none, but it's not for everyone. If your tv placement would have l... : bipolar
• Mitsubishi DLP. great picture, and for $2000 you can probably get 60" or so. No burn-in. Looks alot b... : GoodBoy
• plasma definitely. 50" Kuro for 2 grand. Everyone who says LCD can compete is wrong. http://www.onecal... : malloc
• Factor a Blu-ray player into your budget if you don't have one yet. Why spend all that money on a TV if ... : mojorisen1117
• You have to look for yourself. When I was in the market I was set on getting an LCD due to an irational ... : jojomcbobo
• Plasma. There are pros and cons to both but plasma is better unless you are going to shell out for a high... : Sgt_Boomstick
• Plasma. Back in the 90s when I was a kid, we all thought we'd be flying around in cars come year 2000 and... : Splinebastard
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  Hmm, most of the voting seems to be for plasma. : carnivore
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    I have an addendum. If I intend to be hooking a computer up to it, would a LCD or plasma be better? : carnivore
    • Just be sure it will do 1 to 1 pixel mapping. : Merconium
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      You definitely want to check on the model of TV to see what kind of inputs it will take and what resoluti... : midgetherder
      • That's a good point. My plasma can run 1080P over HDMI (or DVI to HDMI), but the VGA input has a lower ma... : Bold
• Plasma if you are not in a brightly lit room. Matte LCD if you are. : aggressor

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  I hear messing with people in Texas is fun. : sigpro
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    I hear Texas only has steers and ___________ : pancake humper
    • dognose? : CrustaR
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    I think San Antonio is too far to drive to go look for the basement in the Alamo. : PapaBoo
    • I would get sidetracked by Austin on the way down anyways. : mwasher
  • Texan Tipping : Slowtreme
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  oh hell yes. you two should go out with mwasher and I on Friday night : wtf242
  • our flights don't land until around 10:30, and I'll have to go pick up ThomW at Love Field since we can't... : PapaBoo
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    so you decided to go to the show? :D do you know what would be a good, inexpensive option for hotel... : mwasher
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      i still need to double check my tattoo appointment. I'm just going to priceline it : wtf242
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        last time i went to dallas for a weekend I paid $70 a night for a 3.5 or 4 star hotel in a great area. : wtf242
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          That would be awesome... especially if it was fairly close to the club. : mwasher
          • What show are you going to? : twifosp
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  What kind of stuff are you interested in? We've got a bit of everything in the area. : RomSteady
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    you name it and we're up for it. Like I said, neither of us have been there before and I know one day re... : PapaBoo
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      Where in Dallas will you guys be staying? I'm just off 75 and Lemmon. The King Tut exhibit is in town... : RomSteady
      • i booked a hampton inn in plano. 4901 Old Sheppard Place Plano, TX : PapaBoo
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        I'm down with ancient egypt stuff : PapaBoo
        • We went to it after Christmas and it was about 35 bucks a head, pretty neat, but also fairly small. You... : omnova
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        The King Tut exhibit sucks ass. Do not go. It is very overpriced and there's not a lot there. The ... : hanfeitzu
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          My wife hasn't been to the Sixth Floor Museum yet. May be a worthwhile alternative, although I will ... : RomSteady
          • The DMA itself (where the Tut exhibit is) isn't too bad, but my wife and a friend went with me to King Tu... : hanfeitzu
• I'm hoping to go, too. : thief
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  SO JEALOUS : tomservo
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    JOIN US : ThomW
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      buy me a plane ticket? that's my birthday weekend! : zerog83
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        I'm broke and having problems swinging my own way right now. haha : ThomW
        • that's how he's getting there, swinging : PapaBoo
        • yeah but... it's my birthday! : zerog83
    • It'd be a choice between that and Quakecon unfortunately for me :( : tomservo
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  You guys are losers for not coming to Boston instead. LOSERS. : tashtego
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    steve gibson & sHugamom, dognose, rosewood, sleepy, wtf242 > Boston : PapaBoo
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      why am I not on this list you jackass. :( I am most definitely > than sleepy. : mwasher
      • steve gibson & sHugamom, dognose, rosewood, sleepy, wtf242, mwasher, et. al : PapaBoo
  • You guys are idiots for waiting until that date to have a Shackmeet up there. IDIOTS. ;) : ThomW
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    whats in boston : feek
    • shitty roads : pancake humper
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      tashtego, feek. : CrustaR
      • This guy ----> : FormerHPB
    • horrible accents. : kikilupo
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      red sox fans, I advise avoiding at all costs. : sigpro
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        I think gegtik has already formulated the proper response to this post: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?... : Horn
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          Are you saying that's the sound all you sox fans make when talking to each other about the sox? Because y... : sigpro
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            please post more : Horn
            • Post more? I already average 11k posts a year. : sigpro
    • people that say wicked, pissah, and wicked pissah : qwpeoriu
    • guys who watch you pee at the train station : Boxelder
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      i mean what's going on, i've never been to boston so it might be a cool weekend trip to hang out with som... : feek
      • http://www.shacknews.com/shackmeet/events.x?id=5541 : PapaBoo
    • sports fan on sports fan violence, a total lack of R's, and Pick Up Stix roadways : EvilDolemite
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      The motherfucking BRUINS who just got schooled by the motherfucking SHARKS!!! : virus
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        Who got raped and humiliated by the wings 6-0 again? : twifosp
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          you must be talking about the sharks who later beat the wings again : JINKY
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            I predict many injuries before playoffs and sharks are out first round in 5 games : vov1n
            • I predict your prediction is hilarious until the play off seeds are actually close to being final. If th... : twifosp
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            Yea, 6 to 5 in OT, not 6-0 :) But to be fair the sharks some benched players injured in the 6-0 game. ... : twifosp
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              It's ok - when your wings are golfing and the Sharks are still rolling, we'll talk then. : virus
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                The sharks are about the only team capable of defeating a healthy wings squad. But don't count on it ... : twifosp
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                  oh FFS. I'm going to be so happy when the Sharks dominate in the playoffs. : DJ Clipdat
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                    Good luck with that. : twifosp
                    • no you! : virus
      • Fuck yeah and they're going to do the same thing tonight against the Penguins. : DJ Clipdat
    • my single sister in law who is very cute and looking. :) : kainen1
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    I've only been to Boston once. Maybe some of us awesome PA shackers should make a trip up there sometime. : zerog83
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      or those fgts should come to one of the awesome PA Shackmeets : PapaBoo
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        But you could come up here and go to a Sox game at Fenway. You could wear your new Sox hat! : FormerHPB
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          I don't think any of us would be caught dead in Fenway. At least not to watch the Red Sox :-p : zerog83
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            Even if you hate the Red Sox as a lot of shackers do, if you are a baseball fan you owe it to yourself to... : FormerHPB
            • maybe some day when they're playing the White Sox : zerog83
    • I'd love to go up and hang out with those guys but Papboo and I decided to do the TX thing then they anno... : ThomW
    • yeah i think i might like to go to the boston thing if you are down : feek
• :D : dognose
• shit on the steps of Dallas Stadium of course : flagg209
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  You guys can actually stay at my place of you want. I am only about 4 miles from the MainEvent the meet ... : themelon
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    I can even stay at work late and pick you guys up at the airport. Love field is on my way home and DFW i... : themelon
    • that's awfully nice of you ... I'll send you a shackmessage. : PapaBoo
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    melon, can i reserve a spot at your house for me and daughter. Im hoping im well enough to get up there... : dignan
    • You're a dude he doesn't really know with a potentially deadly infectious disease on Feb. 12th - that the : Phil
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      damn, you're pretty fuckin rude : moshman
      • wait, I read themelons post wrong, sorry : moshman
• Sugamom called me this morning, im really hoping im well enough to attend, im glad it got pushed back a... : dignan
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  You can meet up with FPSdavid,angryraxman and myself! : spazzium
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    iphone*d : spazzium
    • Why you gotta assume it's technology at fault? Maybe he has an accent? : digital_d
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  I'd like to go. How much is a plane ticket from tn to dallas? : Antilles_Prime
  • If only there were hundreds of web sites with that information. Oh well. : ThomW
• The 6th Floor Museum and Dealey Plaza where JFK was assassinated: http://www.jfk.org/ Dallas also h... : LemonJoose

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  HUD NEEDS DUKE ITEMS?????????????????????? omgomgomgomg : Downforce
  • I've got a few extra they can have :( : dognose
• Just about to post this. Glorious. : notd665
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  This is a really good sign. Most of these bugs are minor. They are now in nitpicking mode. : peter
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    or it could be sorted to show only a certain level of bugs, and there could be six more pages of higher p... : mikecyb
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      Why you gotta burst his bubble? : hashd
      • because I am right next to our QA department and everyone needs to feel my pain >:( : mikecyb
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      It's a small peek at some resolved issues. : sigpro
      • yeah I just read his twitter update. the images on the left look like the bug priorities. A, B, C, D an... : mikecyb
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      Even so a good QA team usually doesn't log nitpicks until the end when everything is almost completed. Fo... : peter
      • I disagree with this post, at least for the non-games industry. A good QA dept won't log certain categ... : Fayk
      • well placeholders shouldn't get flagged as bugs, but any good QA team should certainly flag lower priorit... : mikecyb
  • bullshit. if the game where anywhere close to being done the hype machine would be in full effect : maulla
• ego gain mega task? : oHnOES
• ok it has cheat codes, and vehicles. : sigpro
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  wtf is an ASSTROOPER? : NeoMoose
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    I don't know but I WANT TO FIND OUT! : manero
    • and those associated sounds???? WIN : Downforce
  • Goddamn my compulsive image searching. http://dziwnetabletki.com/pics/asstrooper.jpg : Splinebastard
  • If I had to guess it would be most Shackers. : hashd
  • I want to kick it with Duke's MIGHTY BOOT! : Goblin au
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  Mother of god. : anhero
  • Hell yes, you can juice! : anhero
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  posting your bug tracker seems kind of poor form :( : mikecyb
  • At least they're to the point that they have bugs to work on : glio1337
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    does it really matter after 10 years of dev time? : cltcprd
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      I dunno, it just seems weird to do for a non-open source project. I mean George is in charge so that's c... : mikecyb
      • I'm guessing the list is scrubbed to not show anything big (or hazardous). :) : cltcprd
• god i hope this comes out in the first half of this year, i want to sell my 360 before i move abroad and ... : disembodied potato
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  Anyone else disappointed? You can really see how they're watering down the game. I'm thinking of starting... : systatic
  • hahahaha. no way. we're good, check their front page. :D : Downforce
  • fixed! : niceguynick
• ASSTROOPER : two50six
• woot holoduke! freeze gun, pipebombs, steroids, everythign is back! : Chandler55
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  Interesting: "Fade the inventory HUD out with the weapon HUD". An inventory HUD implies a decent amoun... : exigence7
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    There were steroids, an underwater breathing apparatus, boots for wading through toxic waste, a jetpack, ... : David Craddock
    • Oh man that's right. It's been too long :( : exigence7
  • boots holoduke jetpack medkit night vision SCUBA gear steroids : Degenerate
• This is strange, I haven't been that into the latest pics from the 360 version and that christmas thing, ... : ETPC1
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  They're using Jira. Nice. : sukabljat
  • I noticed this too! : grendel
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  what is HOLODUKE? : AllYourBase
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    I hope you're joking :( : ETPC1
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      Ive never played any duke game : AllYourBase
      • banned. : Robotic Puppy Eater
      • gtfo : atom519
      • jesus fucking christ : mrvandelay
      • INTRUDER ALERT INTRUDER ALERT : jingletard
      • get out : manero
      • WHAT THE HELL?!? : CrustaR
      • Your gonna got rape. : Utopia
      • I've never really hated you until now. : Degenerate
      • run dude. run fast. : bakanoodle
      • He's not banned yet, because Dognose is going to track him down and torture him psychologically first. Lo... : locater16
      • grab it from Xbox Live Arcade or for PC from 3DR's site! : Postal
    • he may as well have said "pipebombs! that's new!" =( : pharoah mike
  • its like a little holodeck, but for KICKING ASS : radula
• WID : Goblin au
• "Freeze ball bounces off Octobrain brainblast projectile" Fucking. Schweet. : Goblin au

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  I couldn't believe at the end of the trailer that the film's name is actually spelled that way. Also I... : Chris Remo
  • I think they had to spell it that way because another movie/product with the same name exists and was giv... : MrLobo
  • NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN! : Ride-My-Rocket
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    I like Pitt's "accent" - it's partly tongue-in-cheek and appropriate to a movie that doesn't take itself ... : Postal
    • exactly. it's not supposed to be authentic. : dromo5
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      That seems silly to me if it's deliberate. I don't know why you couldn't have someone with an accurate ac... : Chris Remo
      • i'm more concerned about how the way it looks. its too clean for the subject matter. it needs some film... : ibrokn
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        It's kind of like when Pink Panther was actually funny. The whole the was tongue-in-cheek making fun of h... : anhero
        • The whole the thing : anhero
      • an accurate accent would also be very cliche! (not that this isn't at least slightly cliche) : Postal
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  Please be good. Please be good. Please be good. Please be good. Tarantino hasn't made or been involved wi... : Bean
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    Mike Myers is in the movie? Fuck. : Bean
    • I hate that man so much. Biggest 1 trick pony in Hollywood. : h o s t i l e
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    Kill Bill #2 was awful, so I'm not convinced he can still tell a complete story. : Ride-My-Rocket
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      YES THANK YOU. I hated the second one. : MrBig0
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        it should have been one lean, mean movie, not two bloated ones. : dirge23
        • The second movie was also just completely different than the first one. The first one was virtually a sup... : MrBig0
    • I really liked it, I felt like 1 and 2 served as perfect compliments to each other. 2 also brought back s... : quadeh
    • The second one was awesome! David Caradine is the man! : Grumbeld
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    Kill Bill wasn't really that good, though. : Magus
    • You're right. Because it was AWESOME. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      The second one was great. First one too gratuitous, but the second made up for it with the slower pace an... : node
      • great dialogue? such as: "She deserves her revenge for what we did to her." "We deserve to die." "Yup, s... : MrBig0
  • I don't know if I'd say it was good, but I had a lot of fun with Grindhouse. : Conan
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    The part he directed in Sin City was good and I loved Grindhouse. Still waiting on that Kill Bill boxset ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Ugh, I wonder if this is ever going to happen. Word is that Tarantino still hasn't done any significant w... : Serpico74
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        He recently commented on it... http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/01/20/quentin-tarantino-claims-kill-bill- : Godhatesfatpeople
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          No date but cool having information either way. All this is why I still haven't bought Kill Bill on Blu R... : Serpico74
          • Same here. I didn't buy the single editions because of this box set. : Godhatesfatpeople
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            Replace 'on Blu Rray' with 'at all'. : Mad Brahmin Disease
            • Well, yeah, I passed on the DVD as well. :) : Serpico74
  • Death Proof was great. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • he hasn't done anything particularly interesting since jackie brown : disembodied potato
• This looks awesome. He may not be as choice as a producer, but when he directs, Tarantino flicks are almo... : AroundTheFur1380
• oh man I smell a Saboteur DLC movie tie in : sammyl
• Yeah, I want all that. : Deathlove
• That actually looks...Fairly Decent. : AxeMan808
• That looks great. : nomaad
• OH YEAH : Albemuth
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  oh god it's got ryan from the office, I don't think I can take him seriously : AllYourBase
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    Yes. All I can think of when I see him is some intern douchebag. hopefully he's the douchebag of the grou... : kikilupo
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      This trailer is so tame compared to what actually happens in the movie. The script is very violent. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • Yeah, I cant wait to see it. :D : kikilupo
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  looks interesting, brad pitt should make this awesome. But I fucking hate Tarantino, his fucking ego is b... : jayares
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    Haha most of this thread is bullshit. This looks like a potential movie of the year. Don't be a *draws do... : icon_of_syn
    • ^^ Meant for op. Lolol : icon_of_syn
• oh yeah. it's gonna own. : NeoMoose
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  oh man, they are going to have a hard time getting an R rating. : hirez
  • Yeah, this film needs a redband trailer badly. : Godhatesfatpeople
• might be good : anthonybean
• I saw tarantino and closed the tab. I've honestly not enjoyed a single one of his movies. Not even the ea... : retarded talking dinosaur
• WW2 + Nazi Killing + Sneakiness + Brad Pitt = GOOD MOVIE PLEASE : glio1337
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  Oh god I hope this isn't all Tarantino'd Up I can see it now. A war movie with a bunch of guys sitting... : tomservo
  • it's like gilmore girls dialogue for guys but i actually dig it : [fry]
  • The only thing I dislike about Tarantino is his goddamn foot fetish. : ArcKnight
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    His writing is one of the main reasons why I love his films. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      he cant really write though, every single one of his characters in all his films are tarantino in costume... : disembodied potato
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        He can write. But that's his style and not everyone likes it. It's quick, snappy, and vulgar. It reminds ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          i agree it worked at one point, it was fresh in the resevoir dogs/pulp fiction days. Then he expanded it ... : disembodied potato
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            I don't think so. If that's the case, Kill Bill and Grindhouse would have resembled that. I think he push... : Godhatesfatpeople
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              I feel the oppsitie is true from my point of view. I just feel they were very much safe options for him a... : disembodied potato
              • Those are far from just re-workings. Especially KB or GH. Which are amalgams of the 3 genre's he said he ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    As I am to understand it this is all anybody ever really talks about anyway, so what's up? : fleabug
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      I just think he hammers them out so frequently and in such an... uncouth manner that I just hate listenin... : tomservo
      • Your opinion can go get bent. : sigpro
• strange casting : mindshot
• Hahah. Frau Bucher is going to be in it. : edgewise
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  Perhaps I'm biased, but this looks like crap. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I agree. I've liked all of Tarantino's movies, but he's at the point where he could release a trailer of... : Poor Yurik
    • Exactly. I like most of his movies, but this trailer doesn't do anything for me. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Then again, an ultraviolent guns of navarone type movie by him is an instant watch, but that trailer make... : Poor Yurik
      • i just get the impression he isn't trying anymore. The last film he made where he actually stretched hims... : disembodied potato
  • It looked pretty good I thought. : Ellissd
  • pitt looks unconvincing. he doesnt want those scalps. : get_navi
• that's a serious scar around pitt's neck : anhero
• Looks awesome...but Ryan from The Office killing Nazis in tremendous ways will just make me laugh. : givemesnacks
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  Holy shit, a Quentin Tarantino WW2 movie. I wonder who's going to be more pissed off -- the country of G... : LemonJoose
  • Hopefully both. : Haku-Jin
  • i'd imagine the german wont mind at all : disembodied potato
  • The French : Grumbeld
• That looks really awesome. :D : virus
• Looks good to me. : stump
• I didn't know World At War trailers were being adapted into a major motion picture! : SpaecKow
• I look forward to it. : bakanoodle

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  HOW TO SIGN UP Reply here with your top two leader choices (real men play random ;) ) and copy/paste thi : OverloadUT
  • I'm gonna buy it for this, so I guess I'm in! As long as late night turns are ok. =P My one issue is gon : Pacalon
  • "I am fully planning on playing a turn a day for a year or more. Barring any unexpected personal life cha... : deveus1
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    are you filtering people by shack signup date or # of posts? because you should : ]pm[chem
    • I don't really see any reason to : OverloadUT
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  Signups: There are 23 signups so far! People with a * by their name still need to SM me their email addr : OverloadUT
  • I have emailed you. Please to be starting this game soon. Also, are we playing a mod? : conandan
• You are putting dslyecxi to shame today man! : yosemiteclimber
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  how are turns processed? does the pitboss server just do it every 24h, regardless of people having sent ... : ]pm[chem
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    You don't "submit" moves. You literally log in and play live, only the other players aren't there at the : OverloadUT
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      Oh and since you're interested in all of the details, we play with a very important set of "house rules" ... : OverloadUT
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        +inf. thanks. good rules, although no war before 3500 bc seems odd. missing turns, heh, in my games vs... : ]pm[chem
        • In practice the "3 turns" is a very very loose rule. I rarely notice it until it's been a lot more than t... : OverloadUT
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      I never play multiplayer online (my gamespy acct is bugged), so help me out here, if I have moves and pro... : ]pm[chem
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        I see what you mean about submitting moves now. Production queues are special because they only matter be : OverloadUT
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          Oh and one other thing I forgot to mention in the thread: We will be doing an Advanced Start which is tha... : OverloadUT
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            adv start is good, I play that a lot. it may remove the need for your 3500 BC war rule, too. re: moveme... : ]pm[chem
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              I am about 90% sure that automated workers will do their thing if you don't log in. It's regular queued m... : OverloadUT
              • I'm pretty sure queued moves work even if you don't log in. Not 100% certain, though. : Goncyn
          • I heartily endorse a significant Advanced Start for this very reason. The early game, where you basicall... : Vantage
          • boo-urns on advanced start, but whatever : Cheeziologist
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      Oh, so we need to get the 32 player mod, too, it's not just a server-side thing? : Deathlove
      • Yeah, when I send out instructions on how to connect and whatnot I'll have a link to the mod. It's just a... : OverloadUT
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        you need the pitboss thing. Its on the CIV website : conandan
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          You actually won't need to download the Pitboss application. For one, only the server runs it. Everyone e... : OverloadUT
          • ooooo : conandan
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  This sounds awesome, I want in. Please sign me up for a slot with random Civ. : metalremains
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19184054 :) : OverloadUT
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  Sign me up for Vikings or Chinese : deveus1
  • Or random if none of those are available. : deveus1
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19184054 :) : OverloadUT
    • whoops! : deveus1
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  okay, I'm in leaders in order of preference 1) boudica (celts) 2) justinian (byzantine) 3) julius c... : ]pm[chem
  • Alright you're number 26 on the list! If metalremains and deveus1 see my replies above then they will be ... : OverloadUT
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    I beat you to Boudica, suckaaaaa. Please don't come after me in game first! ='( I <3 you! : Pacalon
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      Unfortunately for you it doesn't mean you'll get her for sure. For any conflicts I randomly choose which ... : OverloadUT
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        Why must your ruin the pre-game smacktalk already!? haha : Pacalon
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          I hope you do get the Celts so you'll have no excuse for your incompetence when my mighty Randomites' tan... : OverloadUT
          • That's more like it! Regardless, here's betting I'll be better within 2 weeks of practice than you are : Pacalon
      • you should just random everyone. : hirez
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  anyone know where the 32-player mod is for BTS 3.17? I can't seem to find the page/thread for it. : ]pm[chem
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    Here is one: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=234779 It's actually a 40-player mod. It ... : OverloadUT
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      hmm, that page says it's for BTS 3.13, and everyone playing via Steam will have 3.17... :( : ]pm[chem
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        nm I cannot read. : ]pm[chem
        • It took me a lot of reading in that thread to realize that when he uploaded the latest version he didn't ... : OverloadUT
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  What difficulty is it set at? Noble? This would change my tactics greatly. Also, how are you preventing... : TinyWoodFarmer
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19184436#itemanchor_19184436 : Cheeziologist
  • Permanent alliances are not a feature that is even allowed in the default rules. You have to explicitly t... : OverloadUT
  • It'll either be Noble or Prince; I am not sure yet. : OverloadUT
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  I'd play but I'm pretty sure I suck : Clay
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    its ok, because I know I suck, so we can suck ... together. did I just ILTC myself? : hirez
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      i suck too but i love playing civ and i think it could be fun to get a big game like this going . worse ... : deveus1
      • oh no, you can only play for three months! : Degenerate
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  I am in! Random for me. : byorn
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19184054 :) : OverloadUT
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  "I am fully planning on playing a turn a day for a year or more. Barring any unexpected personal life cha... : TinyWoodFarmer
  • ER already went up so he might not see this. You may want to send him a shackmessage. http://www.shack... : Degenerate

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  1. Unholy DK 2. Unholy DK : g0nk
  • ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : pancake humper
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    Already have that. I'm looking for a 3rd character for crafting. : mace
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      sounds like you need a clothy. warlock. affliction. go. : Downforce
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        Half right. For soloing, you want to go 21 Affliction, the rest goes into Demonology for the felguard. ... : valael
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          I must be a horrible Warlock then. At level 54 I have 38/5/2 and am primarily Affliction. I need some... : Zips
          • You can't really use the spec until level 71 sine you'd have to sacrifice siphon life or the felguard, wh... : valael
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          After you get Dark Pact, full Aff is the way to go. Keep the imp on passive, turn off his fireball, and ... : Clasifyd
          • I tried that before switching to SL/FG and it just wasn't as easy/efficient. I only ever casted siphon li... : valael
        • A good affliction warlock can constantly move from targets to targets with no downtime. Place your major... : DianeOfTheMoon
    • Stunlock or Mutilate rogue. Ret Pally. : pancake humper
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      hunter. they are easy as shit to level. : electroly
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        also, why all the obsession with crafting? i say this every time but i really think you should focus on ... : electroly
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          mining/skinning + buy shit on the AH. so less stressful. grinding the last 20-40 levels in any crafting... : kek
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            i make a pretty decent amount of gold with mining and skinning. : xxiv
            • yeah gathering professions are way better than crafting ones. there are only a couple items that are BoP... : electroly
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          I'm making pretty good money with inscription, herb, skinning and LW. Wanted to add tailoring and alchemy... : mace
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            why add more? at some point you're spending more time on professions than the actual game. gold is stup... : electroly
            • Cause I'm broken and when I get into something, I fucking own that shit to the MAX!!!! Man you don't k... : mace
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          Also, I'm getting close. My druid is 77.75 and my DK is 75.90. : mace
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            just level those suckers to 80 and then worry about gold. you don't need gold when you're leveling. : electroly
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              I have my Swift Flying form on my level 77 druid. You cannot disagree, that's 6000g well spent. : mace
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                The only thing I ever use my flying mount for is flying from Venomspite to Naxxramas, and from Agmar's Ha... : electroly
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                  It makes gathering herbs, hella easy. : mace
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                    Yeah, that it does. If I had some gathering professions I'd probably both 1) have the need for a faster ... : electroly
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                      Yeah and that's another reason I want to level alc on another toon! : mace
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                        Flasks are overrated, IMO. This past week I decided once and for all that I'm never buying flasks or buf... : electroly
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                          Uh you are insane, they can make quite a bit of difference sometimes on the order of 100dps+. : Chod
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                            I'm a healer, not a DPS. Probably makes more a difference for the pew pew types. : electroly
                            • They make a huge difference when your whole raid is using them and it's new content. However if you have ... : flooq
                    • wtf why are you flasking that much the only fights you should reasonably be flasking on are Malygos an... : Majuju
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                  Man I wished I played on the same server as you. It would be nice to have a knowledgeable contact in game... : mace
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                    I'd paypal you the money to transfer if you join us. : pancake humper
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                      I don't think transfers to Mal'Ganis are possible. : electroly
                      • I'm alliance. : mace
                      • I am able to transfer my PvE character to Mal'Ganis. : pancake humper
                      • You can transfer to Mal'Ganis you just have to do it at offpeak times. : Chod
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                  You're missing out. Flying Mount > Taxis/Land Mounts. : action wombmate
                  • You know me. The only place I'm traveling to is the entrance of a raid instance, so I usually just get s... : electroly
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  warlock + draintanking : mwasher
  • oh wait, g0nk is right. there is no reason to level any damage class other than DK now. : mwasher
• unholy DK with the bind on account shoulders and trinket. (requires another level 80 and some badges) ... : Downforce
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  Pick a class that fits your play style, they all work pretty well. : Pneum0
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    Wrong. Leveling a non-AE class SUCKS. : disposition
    • Yeah I'd say the worst (dps) levelling spec is elemental shaman. Of course this is excluding the healing... : kek
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      Leveling is pretty damn easy, i'd rather have the class I want to play most. : Pneum0
      • This. : Link.
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        This man has not leveled a holy priest. : LoioshDwaggie
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          Why would anyone level a holy priest? That's just masochism. : asylumn
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            i stayed holy on my pally for 70-80 and it wasn't too bad. but 1-60 as holy would suck. : electroly
            • It does suck. I did 1-60 prebc, and 65-70 as holy. So so evil, but instances were easy enough to ge... : MacemanInTW
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            BlackCat9 has...of course, we did like 50 or so quests before hitting 70 (the dungeon quests). Levelling... : DianeOfTheMoon
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              it just takes too long to level by chain running instances. i didn't do any quests from level 70 - 77, i... : electroly
              • Well, it's certainly not the fast way to get things done, but we were a group of friends with a tank, hea... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  Blood is easier than Unholy. : skinlab133
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    no it isnt unholy is so retardedly easy to lvl its practially broken : theWhite
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      I played Blood on the beta and I couldn't tell the difference between unholy and blood in terms of which ... : kek
      • one that sticks in my mind was pulling about 8-9 lvl 66-67 mobs at lvl 64 and killing them all. Unholy FT... : theWhite
    • I'm not saying unholy isn't easy, but blood is even more mindless. you stand there and whack stuff. there... : skinlab133
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      Blood is better for leveling, you never run out of health and still do ridiculous damage. Unholy DK will ... : Magus
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        I have heard blood was really nice for solo leveling to 80, anyone able to point me to a really good offe... : sticktastic
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          Yeah. Mine. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Lau With that spec I easily so... : Magus
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            That's a pretty sweet blood spec. I'm currently really diggin my Unholy/Frost spec http://www.wowhead.com... : noodleboy723
            • My current spec http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqc0IcfoxzAoZf0hhxco : lodit
          • This is what BlackCat has been using. He's tanked bosses in a pinch with it, saved heroic wipes and rece... : DianeOfTheMoon
          • I solo'ed that punk with my Enh Shaman... definitely the hardest 3-man quest elite though. : Simulacrum
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            I solo'd him as unholy spec at either 73 or 74, wasn't terribly difficult. I had the most trouble with th... : Nighteyes
            • In the same boat as Nighteyes. : Frozen Pixel
            • This confuses me, as the bird elite was ridiculously easy with very little health whereas the gigantaur d... : Magus
          • It took me a second try to solo him on my DK, but mainly because I wasn't paying attention. The second t... : MacemanInTW
      • I never ran out of health while levelling Unholy either. : Simulacrum
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        If you die as any spec DK you fail. Seriously. Unholy heals more than enough to aoe grind massive group... : MacemanInTW
        • Unholy...heals? Maybe you're just talking about Death Strike, then. And when it comes to relying purel... : Magus
  • I think all three are so easy it's kinda silly to try and compare which is the easiest. : DianeOfTheMoon
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  druid. tank/dps/heal/stealth so many quests will take you no time, but for others like 10 min of fi... : TPSReport
  • Already have a restro druid : mace
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  Combat rogue to 50, Mutilate rogue to 80. : jra101
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    Mutilate nerfed :( : Slowtreme
    • Mutilate is fucking awesome at 80 if properly geared. : mwasher
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      True, but Slice & Dice + Hunger for Blood buffs make up for it (at least once you're high enough to get H... : jra101
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        that's great for PvE. but cutting 30% of your damage for Mutilate sucks for PvE. Also UNRELATED TREES. : Slowtreme
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          With the proper gear it is relatively easy to stay up or exceed the numbers put out by combat rogues in r... : mwasher
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            Yup, although the Lightning Reflexes change (10% passive haste) in 3.1 might bump combat to the top. : jra101
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              HFB is now easy to keep up and it gives 15% benefit instead of 9% at max. : mwasher
              • Still a PITA to keep up (until 3.1) but the 15% is nice :) : jra101
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          I assume you meant "sucks for PvP", which is true but I never PvP =/ What do you mean by unrelated tre... : jra101
          • err I got confused with HAT. Either way its a stupid nerf to dagger rogues, making easy swords easy again : Slowtreme
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  1. BM Hunter, if going 1-80, otherwise Blood DK 2. Arcane/Frostfire Mage DK raid DPS is pretty averag... : Link.
  • lol at DK raid DPS being average. : pancake humper
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    mages are on the nerf train. rogues are getting buffed to be top dps, iirc. : d0pamine
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      Why? Because they have fuck all utility? I never got that logic, they gave them that combat Misdirect thi... : node
      • because rogues are worthless right now. no reason to bring one to your raid. : electroly
  • death knight dps is completely insane. i have no idea what you're talking about : electroly
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    mages got pwned and will be going back to fireball/ttw spec for 25man pve (frostfire for 10 man), frost f... : Downforce
    • mages die fast, they need to be able to kill fast. : d0pamine
  • DKs in your raid are doing it wrong. : soapland
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    Sounds like all the DKs in my guild suck. Thanks all. : Link.
    • Can you link to their armories? : pancake humper
  • Bad DKs I just specced diseaseless blood (51/0/20) and I am pumping out 2500-3000 dps unbuffed (not ... : lodit
  • Yeah DK DPS is totally subpar/average. I mean my friend that ran timed CoS with me only did 3600 DPS. H... : Nighteyes
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  Pally is silly. You get several ways to prevent damage, heal your own damage, and do a massive amount, A... : Zhaneel
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    Yeah but it's boring as hell. They are the most survivable class of all with their bubbl shit, but it's a... : node
    • agreeing here. leveling my pally made me want to scoop my eyeballs out with a rusty spoon : electroly
  • I loved levelling my paladin : Draugluin
  • i did my pala as ret until level 30. Then prot the rest of the way. protection just isn't a viable level... : captfarrell
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  How hard would it be to level a prot spec warrior? I know most level damage then switch, but I'm wanting ... : Lionel2b
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    leveling as a tank is not a good idea especially if you're solo 90% of the time. you'll just be wasting ... : electroly
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      I figured - I just wondered how much of a difference in damage it is. I have no experience so I figured s... : Lionel2b
      • you can make it work by pulling multiple mobs at once and taking advantage of the tanking talents, but it... : electroly
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    It is currently on par with fury leveling once you get to your 60s, if not better. : Link.
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      Also, solo leveling as a tank spec has nothing to do with actual tanking. You'd do it only because you ca... : Link.
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        This is true- I meant getting used to skills and what not. But as the poster above said, it doesn't take ... : Lionel2b
        • You will not learn how to properly tank by leveling. DPS for leveling. At 80 switch to prot and run inst... : pancake humper
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    Easy, after Blizzard made some massive changes to the protection tree. I specced as a prot warrior then s... : phate81
    • Boring to play until ~ lvl 20 I hear... :) : Sylvanus
  • Protection warriors are pretty overpowered now. The amount of stuns you can put out is ridiculous. : ant321
  • 90% solo? Go Arms, bub. For the pre-60 5-man instances you can still tank as Arms or Fury if you throw on... : Magus
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    When I leveled Prot to 80, I used an unorthodox build in order to try and keep dps high. http://www.worl... : Ajax
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      Did you try a standard Prot build first? Because the build you're linking there seems like it would be pr... : FlatlineDixay
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        what is this standard Prot build? : Lionel2b
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          this is what I was planning: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?25000301000... : Lionel2b
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            wrong link: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?tal=350200002000000000000000... : Lionel2b
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              Yeah, that's basically what you want. For soloing, you definitely want Sword and Board for rage efficienc... : FlatlineDixay
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                Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I figured Impale wouldn't be fantastic until later anyhow. Is vit... : Lionel2b
                • Yeah, I'd drop the points in Improved Intervene and Puncture and put them into 5% dodge. I'd also ditch I... : FlatlineDixay
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  Hunter is currently the answer to both your questions hands down. : InfoBiter
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    I thought they got the nerf bat last patch? Or are they still great for DPS oh fuck, two months clean, WT : node
    • Slight nerf. Before they were top dps by a huge margin now a few other classes are at least competitive ... : InfoBiter
    • beastmastery got a nerf. their pets ALONE were doing more damage than a player. : Downforce
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  I have a question for the Rogues out thre. I don't get what's so great about slice & dice and rupture. Ye... : Magus
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    dps comparisons are generally in the context of raid boss fights, not squishy world mobs that die in a fe... : electroly
    • ^^^ this : lodit
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      Ahh, ok. What about PvP then? : Magus
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        pvp viability is a totally different comparison than straight dps. your actual dps is a lot less importa... : electroly
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          Well of course. But I'm just talking about damage here. : Magus
          • slice & dice would be useless in pvp as your target will probably be running around, blinking, fearing yo... : Nighteyes
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    You're not thinking in terms of raid damage in which rupture and snd do a massive amount of your damage. : mwasher
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      this thread is making you want to resubscribe, sholina : electroly
      • I'm technically still sub'd until saturday. :P But no, I have renewed my love for my 360 and big TV. : mwasher
• shamans are easy to level, lightning bolt lightning bolt lightning bolt lightning bolt : AllYourBase
• They're all so easy, WoW is very EASY. Pick a class you like and play it. : Sixcos
• Hunters sleepwalk leveling. : Majuju

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• Microsoft doesn't agree with you. : zerog83
• Buy a router where you can install DD-WRT, set it up as a bridge, profit : Yanks
• It's $100 : pancake humper
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  ^^^ It used to be $70, but Microsoft heard your whimpering and raised it to an even $100 : Home Nugget
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    so there's no cheaper 3rd party adapter? that's ridiculous. fuck street fighter 4. everything required is... : wtf242
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      get the first wireless adapter for the original XBox, the MN-740, it's like half the price. Had mine sin... : HojuSimpson
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        It doesn't support more current encryption schemes, though. : Arcanum
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          Because if there's one thing people are going to spend the time to decypher it's your xbox live traffic. : AgentPothead
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            The point is you can't run higher encryption on your main router if your xbox bridge can't connect to hig... : sigpro
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              I think you guys over value your information a tad much if you think somebody is sitting around hacking y... : AgentPothead
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                Poor College Students living upstairs. : Sailor of Fortune
                • As a poor college student, this is the correct answer. Bonus points for "High school kids with laptops... : MercFox1
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          Doesn't more encryption add more lag? : Fred Garvin
          • No. You lose some throughput though. : quanta88
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      There are. I am trying to find it but it's just a bridge not a usb device like the MS one. : sigpro
      • http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Network-Adapter-Access-Xbox-360/dp/B001A5S6YG I am pretty sure I saw on... : sigpro
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      buy a Linksys WRT54G at walmart for $40, put dd-wrt on it and make it a wireless bridge. there are instr... : mwasher
      • ^^^ this is the correct and cheapest answer : sludge vohaul
    • 242, I agree. : CrustaR
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      Cheapest third party alternative -> http://www.amazon.com/25-Foot-Category-Cat5e-Ethernet-Patch/dp/B000BR... : Endymion_
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        Difficult when the router is on another floor : phate81
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          Be a man and drill holes! : Sailor of Fortune
          • That gets your jeans dusty. : Endymion_
• I had to pay $100 : whistletits
• Welcome to 2005 friend : ateam311
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  wireless bridge, $30, done. : Begawkiness
  • This is what I did! : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Same, grabbed a Buffalo bridge (are they still in business) for about $35 off newegg, kind of annoying to... : icking fudiot
    • Buffalo recently got an injunction against them stayed, so they are starting manufacturing up again. : Fyunch Click
  • Ya, I put ddwet on a used linksys. Now I have 4 ports out at the tv for 360, TiVo and wii. : good man
  • And you can use it for *gasp* more things! Seriously, though, this is the way to go. : dmason
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  All 360 hardware is a giant ripoff, especially the hard drives. : jingletard
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    I don't think so. My original $400 purchase has gotten me a total of 5 360s. Not all at once, but that'... : manlyman
    • Your purchase should only have to buy you ONE though. :( : changejar419
  • Especially. Agreed. So hard. Fuck them. : ieGod
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    yeah it's pretty much shit. the consoles fail and my controllers won't stop going left : Mr.SEX
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      try going right in games. Stop being so sinister. : Fyunch Click
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        Or he should stop playing Nascar games. : Derringer
        • oh shit that's a good idea, the controller will just go left without any input so i can just put a brick ... : Mr.SEX
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    You know what's worse? MS's wireless protocol is proprietary so the mad catz fightpads are wireless on t... : factor27
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      I love how Sony has kept the system so open and standard but everyone still loves to hate them. :[ : Ebu
      • Well as a company their stance on their product line is pretty distasteful and conceited. I really think ... : ieGod
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        Because that makes up for everything else. : TrptJim
        • What "everything" else? : Ebu
      • That is, undoubtedly, the most awesome part of the PS3. The problem is everything else about the way they... : ColoradoCNC
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  It is. A cheaper alternative is to get a router that is compatible with the Tomato firmware and set up a ... : ieGod
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    my dlink 4300 doesn't support it. lame : wtf242
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      i told you it was shitty : whistletits
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        it's a badass router and has great reviews. you're network card is shitty. I've never had a problem with ... : wtf242
        • your : wtf242
        • The DGL-4300 rocks. : cltcprd
        • no u : whistletits
    • I don't think that matters. You'd need a new second router to act as the bridge, and could leave your DL... : DinK
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  They should have named it the Xbox 510 for nickel and dime. : mnsnota
  • I like this, I'm stealing it. It's stolen. : Derringer
• I use my laptop. Bridge the wireless and wired connections. Use the wireless to connect to the netw... : changejar419
• MOAR LIKE MICRO$OFT RITE GUYS : abovedefault
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  lol wireless. run a cable : Downforce
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    yeah run a cable down my stairs, through my front living room, into the back one, and into my xbox. perfe... : wtf242
    • yes : abovedefault
    • drop a cable straight down the walll.... : mwasher
    • its what I did, but its only around 20 feet. : ultramega
    • http://www.cat5ecableguy.com/inc/sdetail/109 : Endymion_
    • do you need help with this or what. 20 minutes at home depot and you have everything. shit you can even ... : Downforce
    • do yourself a favor and buy some cable at lowes and put the ends on your self, you'll save a ton of money : Richese
    • ... nothing but net! : dmason
    • Install a RJ45 jack next to your 360 and run the cables through the wall. Not really hard to do but it do... : razlebol
• I got one of these instead for the same price: http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/ Plus now I can con... : SqueegyTBS
• I bought this for $100 after using shared Internet with my laptop and also using my linksys as a bridge. ... : ejectorpod
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  wtf, just get a Linksys WRT-54GL and flash it with either Tomato firmware, or if that doesn't cut it, DD-... : geedeck
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    This is what I do, I also have my PS3 hooked up to it as the PS3's wireless craps out a lot (it's worse t... : Sailor of Fortune
    • PS3 wireless is maddeningly flaky. it took a full hour to finally get the patch downloaded in order to pl... : cpt_gloval
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    It's pretty fucking retarded that this is a cheaper solution. : SenorSpine
    • I'd be more annoyed if DD-WRT bridges weren't so fucking awesome : geedeck
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  You could forego the Elite, unless you really want the 120 gigs. The Premium has 60. You could even do th... : hoov1185
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    I figured the elite won't red ring as much maybe since it's newer? Doesn't matter i talked myself out of ... : wtf242
    • actually, the arcades and pros out now have the 65nm Jasper chipset and I don't believe anybody has found... : Smitty
    • I don't know if the whole product line has the new hardware yet or not. I'd imagine it would. But even th... : hoov1185
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      get a standard, 60GB, don't waste your money on a wireless adapter, you can have mine for free, boom, the... : EvilDolemite
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        There you go, and my offer still stands with the hard drive so if you're really interested just let me kn... : hoov1185
        • Oh shit, the only thing I didn't think of is the HDD enclosure. That might be a problem, unless I can fin... : hoov1185
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    I am starting to think that the 120GB is not even big enough for me with a bunch of games installed. : Evil Benius
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      I am itching to get mine upgraded so I could install most of my collection. It's bliss not hearing the di... : hoov1185
      • I think I have around 8-10 games installed now and it is starting to get crowded with map packs and add-o... : Evil Benius
  • my 120gb HDD has 38 gb left :( : dantastic
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  Get an older WRT54G-something router and throw Tomato on it. Not only is it cheaper, but it is MUCH more... : magistersmax
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    WRT54GL : Ride-My-Rocket
    • non GLs can still run DD-WRT : smegmar
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  Get a Wii. Built in wireless and they don't charge you to play online. : swenkcahs
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    I have a wii, you can´t compare the experience : davidc02
    • ^^ Knows WTF. I have one also. I got it for the kids, the 360 I bought for me and Live is the best part... : FormerHPB
  • don't couldn't even if they wanted to : nudel
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  There is so little I like about the 360. It's ridiculous that people have to suggest all of these other t... : haiku
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    its pretty fucking dumb to assume that everyone who buys your console happens to keep their router next t... : boring gegtik
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      They had a chance to redeem themselves when they came out with a premium version of their hardware to inc... : haiku
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        it's too bad you don't have the need to use it as a media center extender. I hardly play games anymore... : sludge vohaul
        • They're ok, I wouldn't say awesome though. It pales next to an HTPC. : ieGod
        • Most of what the 360 does in this regard, the PS3 does also. : Ebu
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    it's a good console with some good games but the lack of wireless is pretty baffling. Microsoft continua... : mikecyb
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      I really can't even comprehend how forgiving the gamer market has been with the hardware failures. Litera... : SenorSpine
      • really, they only survived on the strength of the software and multiplayer implementation that's the r... : EvilDolemite
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        I want one, can afford it, and won't buy it because I know I'll end up returning it. I'll suffer through... : flagg209
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          lately I have enjoyed the ps3 more since I don't fear it breaking everytime I turn it on. : gmd
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            I can't imagine what it is like to spend 200+ on a system and then be afraid it was going to break every ... : flagg209
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              I can't imagine what it is like to equate no games for a week or two with being stranded miles from home. : Endymion_
              • Probably paid as much for that first car as the 360. : Ebu
          • I fear the drive going out in my ps3. Already happened to it on one. If it happens on this 2nd one I'm go... : sigpro
        • My friends are so unlucky with their PS3s, out of the eight people I know with one, seven have had their ... : Derringer
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      I can understand the lack of wireless since they want to give the consumer choice, the main problem is th... : Evil Benius
      • you'd think they sell so few at that price point that they would lower the price to sell more and make mo... : feek
      • For a long time even the alternative products cost just as much or more, so I chalked it up to the fact t... : OverloadUT
    • It doesn't baffle me, I never would use wireless with it, and I appreciate the cost difference of being a... : Halen
    • But what about the fact that I personally wouldn't use wireless so I am glad the console doesn't cost ext... : OverloadUT
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    haiku, it does have a lot of drawbacks, but the fucking thing about it is, with all its problems, it is p... : EvilDolemite
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      I am pretty sure every time I have used Live, I have praised it. It's exactly what online gaming should b... : haiku
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        I am really impressed by how nice Live is. It's very very nice. The DLC is retarded. Videos are free, wal... : not work safe
        • videos are free because they are advertising. if companies charged for videos then nobody would watch th... : mikecyb
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          I think the streaming video resolution is a bandwidth issue. They couldn't stream higher res video becaus... : haiku
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            That makes sense, however why not just stretch to fit? But I didn't think about that, you are probably ri... : not work safe
            • I would rather they keep the smaller scale. The compressed stream already looks bad enough, if you scale ... : haiku
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        the best games of the last 4 years are mostly on the 360, so if you think the library is weak you might j... : Luminair
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          I'm pretty sure that's hugely subjective, as he stated. : ieGod
          • yes, not liking games is definitely subjective : Luminair
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      Does the PS3 use standard hi def cables or propriatary ones though? It's not that hard to get a cheap sta... : ninjase
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        PS3 component cables are proprietary but you can buy 3rd party ones if you like. HDMI cables are standar... : mikecyb
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          well that doesn't sound like that big of a deal then : ninjase
          • it's not I guess, except the PS3 being HD is kind of a selling point, especially given it's a Blu-Ray pla... : mikecyb
      • The PS2 component cable will work on the PS3. You can buy PS2 component cables for $0.01 http://shop.ebay... : ieGod
      • I flipped out on the lack of HD cables. My friend was telling me how awesome GT5:prologue looked on his H... : khaosman
      • you can use any wireless bridge with the 360. like a $40 netgear or linksys or something. the $100 one ... : EvilDolemite
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      it doesnt tie his room together : feek
      • hahaha : Richese
    • it is probably the most viable current-gen console for general gaming and that's why i find this gene... : Mr.SEX
    • Plus the PS3's pricing is like MS forcing you to buy the Wifi adapter whether you want it or not. Hone... : nudel
    • "xbox live is still worlds beyond any other console network offering, the controller is very thoughtful, ... : Derringer
  • boo hoo plugging in stuff is hard :_( : Richese
  • What to like about the 360: Pac-Man Championship Edition : pyide
  • The XBox 360 costs less than the PS3 to start with. Why should everybody have to pay for built-in wirele... : LemonJoose
• shane i have a linksys wireless bridge you can have, for free, it will work : EvilDolemite
• Get a DLINK pocket router, less then half the price and will work. : rhuntley12
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  Powerline adapters!!! I'm totally sold on these. They eliminate all the hassles with wireless and give... : uncleanmonkey
  • I second this emotion. The one I have been using has worked great. : bigblack
  • the 200mbps netgear one is like, $120 The slingbox one would be good enough and is only like $75 or so... : sludge vohaul
  • The quality of your signal heavily depends on the wiring in your house and what you have plugged in aroun... : TrptJim
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    Do those work well? The disclaimers about performance are pretty long... : sanchez
    • They do work well, unless you're unfortunate with your wiring. The crappy thing is you can't try them out... : nudel
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    They used to suck horribly, about 6 or 7 years ago. What improvements have been made? : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
    • They're much faster, have encryption and seem very reliable. Still not as fast as gigabit ethernet, of... : nudel
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  i know, its like almost half a fucking pant leg. : re-verse
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    ^^ this ^^ : Phil
    • hahaha I missed it : Downforce
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    that's fucking hilarious : wtf242
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      or like 15 minutes in a tattoo parlor : kevp
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        or like half a koi : kevp
        • You could buy a months worth of smokes with that money! : SenorSpine
• I was in GameStop when some kid was trading one in. They were going to give him 18. I offered twenty ca... : rlc:tk
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  break into the pentagon and take an old mainframe server then uplink to a comm satellite and hack into th... : gmd
  • Can you open sockets to Xbox Live from there? : phate81
• My LinkSys wireless adapter totally interfered with the controllers. Although one is 802.11g and one is B... : Ra5putin
• shit... it used to be a $100 : infiltrator`
• lol : Richese
• I agree how stupid it is that it doesn't come with it. But if it's any consolation, the official adapter ... : ahlee
• At least since it's still priced so high you can resell it for a decent price. I sold mine after having i... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I know people have already said "lol, cable" but seriously, I have THREE different devices in my entertai... : DinK
  • this is my notion too. i've never had solid wifi service through more than one wall, let alone solid gami... : cpt_gloval