New Battlefield 1943 Details: Three Classes, Regenerating Health and Unlimited Ammo

Wow, regenerating health and unlimited ammo? Dissapointing that the PC is getting these casual games (Heroes, 1943), luckily Bad Company 2, the only serious looking one, is getting a PC release unlike the original.

"And while the game will only ship with three maps, Dyke suggests that more maps could arrive depending on player feedback. "

They missed "for a price" which is their entire scheme for releasing 1/2 of a game for $20.

Three maps? Three classes? Halo health? Anyone can blow up a tank? Fucking kidding me?

Does anyone know about the opportunities for modders with this? If it's as open as BF1942 was, I am certain that someone will build a proper class-based title within weeks of retail release, because fuck these design choices.

Why the fuck do all the games have regenerating heath these days? Are attention spans so short that people can't be bothered to go and find a medkit?

Well it looks like the Battlefield series just went the way of the Rainbow 6...good bye depth and complexity, hellooo frat boy LAN parties.

The biggest fail here is the fact it only comes with 3 maps.... one week of playing and you'll be bored.

I don't think everyone has seen this gameplay from bf 1943, so LETS DO THIS http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/play/44532/Xbox-360/Battlefield-1943/Gameplay/NYCC09-Off-Screen-Developer-Walkthrough/Flash-Video

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Let us remember back to the glory days of BF1942. The Wake Island demo. No-one knew how to fly, it was constant lols watching people take off from the aircraft carrier and immediately crash into the ocean. Team killing for airplanes was rampant, no-one used teamwork, everyone got into the first vehicle they could find and went out to cause mayhem. People would take the landing boats and try to sneak around the back of the island with a 1 man strike team. Jeeps constantly crashed and blew up taking all passengers with them.

The game was a clusterfuck, but it was fun as hell. I think this will still be fun as hell. Regenerating health and infinite ammo will help with the unbalanced infantry that was a problem in the original, maybe this will cut down on TK'ing for vehicles (if you are even allowed to TK).

"DICE wanted to make sure that players could fight in any situation regardless of the chosen class, so each has weapons that can take down a tank. "

WTF are you serious? What's even the point of having classes if they do this. They're suppose to have weaknesses and strengths.

Dice is just trying there damndest not to release a proper BF3 arn't they?

Awesome, I just saved $15-20!

They might as well just make a game where you press start and it says "YOU WIN", then gives a 1000 achievement points. It would sell millions because anyone could play it.

You guys are on crack.

How is the convergence of classes dumbing down? Just like Q3 is complexer then playing an scout in TF2 because of the larger weapon arsenal so can the convergence of classes also increase the complexity within 1943.

Less classes = more abilities per class = more "right" tools for every situation = steeper learning curve = harder to master = what everyone wants.

I hope they introduce runes and powerups. Maybe a secret lasergun, like a new Nazi weapon. It would be neat if we all had wisecracking sidekicks who followed us around and randomly dropped grenades, while shouting "Uh oh, I done a bad thing!"

Oh, and a dev team guy who shows up at your door for plenty of assrape irl, whenever you start to play.

I will pay $100 for a real update of BF 1942.

El Alamein is the greatest online map I have ever played. The battles from that map are completely EPIC. The greatest combination of freedom and action I have yet to experience in online FPS.

Please don't ruin BF1942 with a chopped down version of it. Just remake the enitre game as it was, quirks and all. Please no "unlocks" or other garbage either. Just great maps, newer gfx, a very simple stat system, no "general". Make it $100 and I'm in.

Also, do the same for BFVN and I'll pay another $100.

1942 remade through the Frostbite engine with some gameplay changes... sounds sweet. I'm interested. For $20, I'll definately be downloading this. =)

Is it wrong that I'll wait to play it until judging?

So when is 2143 coming out...


I wouldn't mind 2143 actually since I thought there was a lot that coulda used beefing up in 2142. Like uh. Say. Gee. The shields should have protected from air-ramming and the power of the battle walkers would have been much improved.

hey just a reminder to 1942 fans that we're having an epic shackbattle this sunday!!

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19129792#itemanchor_19129792

One of the virtues of BF1942 was its immediate accessibility. You could drop into a random game and flail around as a lone wolf and still enjoy yourself. The game, however, successfully straddled the line between accessibility and complexity and it is a testament to that depth that so many people are reacting negatively to this news.

EA is already producing an accessible version of Battlefield; it's called Heroes. While I'm excited for that, I and I think a lot of the BF community would enjoy a reskinned version of 1942 in its full depth.

They Deus Ex: Invisible War'd mai Battlefield.

So, when is the eta on 2143? ... Hmm... sigh.

I hope they make it so you don't have to shoot people in this game, that part is frustrating to me.

I find playing games frustrating in fact. I just want to pay 60 dollars and get a nice colourful World War II themed win screen that says: "You win!"

this fucking explains ERTS share price. on the one hand i feel like they are trying to mass appeal to bring their stock back up, but on the other hand they really need to realize how they got to where they are today in the first place. it wasn't by making mediocre games that casual players could enjoy

Might as well make it insta-gib while they are at it. Who isn't frustrated when you shoot someone 50 times and they live?

Problem solved.

WHAT THE EFF?! unlimited ammo? automatically regenerating health?! THREE CLASSES?!

I have to say this sounds just bizarre. They're talking about making a graphically suped up version of BF1942 with stripped down gameplay and fewer choices, fewer options for the player. If this is the best they got, they're finally bankrupt of ideas.

If it works, then it will be a referendum on previous BF efforts, and I guess it means choice and team play were the wrong things to do. But I suspect this will fail miserably, and DICE will be looking to just sweep this horrible footnote of a mistake away.

10$ should be a fair price lol.

This is going to backfire in a big way. Bad move, DICE. Bad move, EA.

I've spent a ton of time playing Dice games over the years but sometimes it does really feel like the company is run by retarded monkeys. Holy fuck. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this and not just another dumb video.

As someone who has never owned a Battlefield title but is very much looking forward to 1943 I find EA's judgment troubling. This game's mechanics seem to infringe on the entire point of Battlefield Heroes (which is terrible, FYI). On paper they are the same game really, a remake of a classic that is cheap and accessible. So why waste resources making two very similar games that are going to released back-to-back in a span of three months? It really makes no sense at all. First of all, they would please me and others by making this game more hardcore and probably make more money in the process.

Because what will be going through the mind of your typical gamer: why should I buy Battlefield 1943 when I already have Heroes for free?

Not smart, at all EA.

Dyke suggests that more maps could arrive depending on player feedback.

dlc

jesus christ wtf

It'll be interesting to see if EA/DICE change anything after the largely negative response. I doubt it, even if the majority doesn't like the changes they are the minority when it comes to who will buy the game.

The low overhead of producing an XBLA title, shipping with only 3 maps and IP recognition will guarantee a profitable release.

Oh for freak sake! When did the entire industry go STUPID on us? This is another game victimized by accessibility, as in they dumbed this down for the masses, as in you couch dwelling thumb suckers!

For fuck sake. Are we ever going to get a true sequel to BF 1942/BF 2/BF 2142? Because this piece of EA'd shite sure isn't it.

It's like whoever is making these decisions doesn't understand what made BF42 and BF2 so popular. They seem to believe we want the most dumbed-down experience possible in all Battlefield games.

It could still be fun, although the lessened focus on teamwork sucks. :(

Like many of you, I'm disappointed in these decisions. It sounds like they have made a deep game shallower. I understand that they have in part done this to appeal to a wider audience, but I think that Battlefield: Heroes is better suited to this. I think that they're trying to appeal to the BF1942 audience and some of the casual gamers at the same time, but they run the danger of satisfying neither, rather than both.

Making teamwork less important is going the wrong direction. A battlefield game should not be like team deathmatch. The key to previous games was that specialization required players to work together to offset each class's or vehicle's weakness. Also, it was already the case in BF1942 that each class had a weapon that could harm tanks, although some classes were clearly much better at it than others. That is, every class had, at the very least, grenades, three of which could almost destroy a light tank (three grenade hits would always make me jump out of a sherman, since it was about to blow). Heavy tanks (e.g., the Tiger) could take more punishment, but that made sense.

I feel let down. However, as I said in a previous post, I'm going to buy the game and try it. I'll tell everyone what I think about it. I will reserve final judgement for the finished game. If it sucks, I'll say so, but if they've somehow made a fun game despite these simplifications, I'll be glad of it and suggest that others buy it. Maybe it will turn out to be a great Shackbattle game after all.