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• It's awful, thief. : nevicata
• It's really bad. Not in a so bad it's actually unintentionally funny, but just...bad. I made it 3 episode... : Frozen Pixel
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  I have been watching it on Hulu. I think it's pretty good personnally. Ep. 9 was fantastic. : fatalsync
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    I'll skip to episode 9; a compromise between you, nevicata, and Frozen Pixel's opinion. : thief
    • Keep in mind, I have no knowledge of the books, so I'm not tainted by any preconceptions. : fatalsync
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  I was all excited about this series until I actually caught an episode. The acting is HORRIBLE. : ForestCreature
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    I'm always intrigued by acting. I wonder if the show would better if you gave the same lines and same co : thief
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      Good acting can make a world of difference. Take dogville, which is shot on an obviously fake set (like t... : uncleanmonkey
      • ^^^ What he said. : ForestCreature
      • I'll rent dogville soon. : thief
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  It's not that bad. I'd really prefer it if they had stuck with some of the original lore brought out by t... : digital_d
  • I feel as if I could tolerate the campy way hey chose to do the series were it more faithful to the narra... : thief
  • Yeah Naked empire was awful. He didn't even try to veil the fact it was a book designed nothing but to b... : nukewinter
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  I tried to read the first of those books and it was awful. : tashtego
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    If I didn't have other books I wanted to read I'd go back through it to compare how I feel about it now t... : thief
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      The writing was really clumsy and terrible. : tashtego
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        Also the male/female relationship was so ridiculously hackneyed and borderline misogynistic (kind of like... : tashtego
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          I'm trying to figure out if you are thinking of a different book or what. Wizards First Rule is probably ... : gyrfalcon
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            Nope, that's the book. Couldn't even finish it, and I have a pretty high patience with fantasy writers wh... : tashtego
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              Erikson is a terrible writer? : Goncyn
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                tashtego, I am disappointed that you would make such a bold claim about my favorite author and then not s... : Goncyn
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                  I like him a lot, but it's in spite of his terrible writing skills. I fear that he is one of those geeks ... : tashtego
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                    I'm curious what you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking. Are you a writer or editor or teacher ... : Goncyn
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                      I'm an avid reader. I read a lot of straight literature, and I'm a tried and true devotee of the "great A... : tashtego
                      • What you see as irrelevancy is a lot of interconnected details throughout the series. Erikson will devote : Magus
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                        The guy is a graduate of the Iowa Writer's Workshop, which is a prestigious graduate-level writing progra : Goncyn
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                          I was working on my BA in English when I dropped out and went into the service. Kinda wish I had finished... : Magus
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                            I think I would like being an editor. Teaching, well, I don't know how good I am at it. I didn't have a c : Goncyn
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                              Doing something just to do it rarely turns out well, unless the doing itself is a hell of a lot of fun. W... : Magus
                              • I would make a fine teacher and, admittedly, the lifestyle -- as malleable as I think it can be -- fits m : thief
                        • That's good to know that he went to Iowa- my criticism stands but now I know I'm wrong as to its origin =... : tashtego
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                          Also, you should come back to Moby Dick at some point. At least read the opening chapters so you'll be pl... : tashtego
                          • I did read the first hundred pages or so. I appreciate certain aspects of the book from a literary and hi... : Goncyn
                          • I agree. I never enjoyed the classics until after leaving college, when I was no longer forced to read th... : Magus
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                        Have you read anything by Dan Simmons? : thief
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                          Loved The Terror (because I'm obsessed with whaling and arctic exploration), re-reading Hyperion right no... : tashtego
                          • Hyperion is undoubtedly worth re-reading :D : thief
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                His plots are a mess, he sucks at character development, he suffers from "pet word" syndrome (witness the... : tashtego
                • One very notable exception though: Karsa Orlong is a great character. I wish he would give the rest of th... : tashtego
                • I don't know. I have never noticed the "pet word" problem, and that's something I thought I was fairly se... : Goncyn
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                  I can't take someone's argument seriously when they wring their hands over a word choice. : Magus
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                    Huh? Susurrate is a perfectly cromulent word. It's the repetition that annoys me. : tashtego
                    • You don't have to resort to slang to make your point. :) : Magus
                • Totally irrelevant, but I'm laughing because I understand your Golden Corral analogy having gone to one f... : shyguy74
            • Please explain sussuration. I mean, I know what it means, etc, but... : thief
          • It's misogynistic in the fact that it's a very male perspective on female characters. Robert Jordan did t... : Modica Sol Solis
      • I agree 100%. Goodkind is a terrible writer and not even a very good storyteller. If I had the time, I wo... : Anti_dentite
  • Hmm, the first one is actually pretty good .... : nukewinter
  • I also thought the first one was very good and it went downhill from there. It's been a while, though. : Goncyn
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  I'd say skip over it in anticipation of the HBO's adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Apparently they ... : Jenings
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    He needs to hurry up and finish the series before he croaks. : c0bra
    • Truth to that, it would be one of the bigger cock teases I can recall to see some of the character thread... : Jenings
• any show with naked old men holding chickens is ok in my book : GloriousCow
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  You mean The Legend of the Seeker. It can be pretty terrible but some episodes have a minor spark that gi... : Landrosradick
  • iawtp : c0bra
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  I really like it, and the actress who plays kahlen is so fucking hot. : jayares
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    That's really its only saving grace, and the effects budget is decent. : Vantage
    • The slowmo battles are awesome too, hollywood could learn a few things from this show. : jayares
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  The fantasy genre is campy by default, so I think the show is decent for what it is. : thebigbeefsandwich
  • I keep wanting to reply to this post and say something eloquent about how claiming fantasy is "campy by d... : Goncyn
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  thief, take my word as gospel on this subject, it's fucking terrible.
  
  I've read all the books (in addition to a metric fucking ton of other fantasy), so while I'm aware of the Sword of Truth's shortcomings as a series I still felt there were aspects of it to be enjoyed. The TV series has essentially stripped away everything good and replaced it with generic fantasy nonsense, plot lines that begin and end in one 42 minute episode, and acting so bad you wonder what the fuck the Goodkind was thinking (other than maybe, "cha-ching?") signing off on this shit.
  
  Episode 9 was the only good episode in the series, and consequently the only episode that bore more than a passing resemblance to the books themselves. After seeing the episode I'm convinced the only actor with a hint of talent is that long faced Bruce Spencer who plays Zed, which is strange because in the beginning he struck me as awfully cheesy.
  
  I want to avoid it and piss on whoever is in charge of it, but given that well known fantasy doesn't get much translation to the small screen I'll stick with it a little longer and hope that episode 9 is the beginning of a trend away from the show being absolutely terrible.

  Jan 27, 2009 3:31pm PST
  thief, take my word as gospel on this subject, it's fucking terrible. I've read all the books (in add... : fuell
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  The show is horrible, but watchable. Unlike Merlin. That was just sad. I have no idea how they pla... : fleabug
  • I liked Merlin too :( : jayares