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• It's awful, thief. : nevicata
• It's really bad. Not in a so bad it's actually unintentionally funny, but just...bad. I made it 3 episode... : Frozen Pixel
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  I have been watching it on Hulu. I think it's pretty good personnally. Ep. 9 was fantastic. : fatalsync
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    I'll skip to episode 9; a compromise between you, nevicata, and Frozen Pixel's opinion. : thief
    • Keep in mind, I have no knowledge of the books, so I'm not tainted by any preconceptions. : fatalsync
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  I was all excited about this series until I actually caught an episode. The acting is HORRIBLE. : ForestCreature
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    I'm always intrigued by acting. I wonder if the show would better if you gave the same lines and same co : thief
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      Good acting can make a world of difference. Take dogville, which is shot on an obviously fake set (like t... : uncleanmonkey
      • ^^^ What he said. : ForestCreature
      • I'll rent dogville soon. : thief
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  It's not that bad. I'd really prefer it if they had stuck with some of the original lore brought out by t... : digital_d
  • I feel as if I could tolerate the campy way hey chose to do the series were it more faithful to the narra... : thief
  • Yeah Naked empire was awful. He didn't even try to veil the fact it was a book designed nothing but to b... : nukewinter
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  I tried to read the first of those books and it was awful. : tashtego
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    If I didn't have other books I wanted to read I'd go back through it to compare how I feel about it now to how I felt about it then. Do you remember why you felt it was so awful?

    Jan 27, 2009 2:06pm PST
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    If I didn't have other books I wanted to read I'd go back through it to compare how I feel about it now t... : thief
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      The writing was really clumsy and terrible. : tashtego
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        Also the male/female relationship was so ridiculously hackneyed and borderline misogynistic (kind of like... : tashtego
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          I'm trying to figure out if you are thinking of a different book or what. Wizards First Rule is probably ... : gyrfalcon
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            Nope, that's the book. Couldn't even finish it, and I have a pretty high patience with fantasy writers wh... : tashtego
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              Erikson is a terrible writer? : Goncyn
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                tashtego, I am disappointed that you would make such a bold claim about my favorite author and then not s... : Goncyn
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                  I like him a lot, but it's in spite of his terrible writing skills. I fear that he is one of those geeks ... : tashtego
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                    I'm curious what you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking. Are you a writer or editor or teacher ... : Goncyn
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                      I'm an avid reader. I read a lot of straight literature, and I'm a tried and true devotee of the "great A... : tashtego
                      • What you see as irrelevancy is a lot of interconnected details throughout the series. Erikson will devote : Magus
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                        The guy is a graduate of the Iowa Writer's Workshop, which is a prestigious graduate-level writing progra : Goncyn
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                          I was working on my BA in English when I dropped out and went into the service. Kinda wish I had finished... : Magus
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                            I think I would like being an editor. Teaching, well, I don't know how good I am at it. I didn't have a c : Goncyn
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                              Doing something just to do it rarely turns out well, unless the doing itself is a hell of a lot of fun. W... : Magus
                              • I would make a fine teacher and, admittedly, the lifestyle -- as malleable as I think it can be -- fits m : thief
                        • That's good to know that he went to Iowa- my criticism stands but now I know I'm wrong as to its origin =... : tashtego
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                          Also, you should come back to Moby Dick at some point. At least read the opening chapters so you'll be pl... : tashtego
                          • I did read the first hundred pages or so. I appreciate certain aspects of the book from a literary and hi... : Goncyn
                          • I agree. I never enjoyed the classics until after leaving college, when I was no longer forced to read th... : Magus
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                        Have you read anything by Dan Simmons? : thief
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                          Loved The Terror (because I'm obsessed with whaling and arctic exploration), re-reading Hyperion right no... : tashtego
                          • Hyperion is undoubtedly worth re-reading :D : thief
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                His plots are a mess, he sucks at character development, he suffers from "pet word" syndrome (witness the... : tashtego
                • One very notable exception though: Karsa Orlong is a great character. I wish he would give the rest of th... : tashtego
                • I don't know. I have never noticed the "pet word" problem, and that's something I thought I was fairly se... : Goncyn
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                  I can't take someone's argument seriously when they wring their hands over a word choice. : Magus
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                    Huh? Susurrate is a perfectly cromulent word. It's the repetition that annoys me. : tashtego
                    • You don't have to resort to slang to make your point. :) : Magus
                • Totally irrelevant, but I'm laughing because I understand your Golden Corral analogy having gone to one f... : shyguy74
            • Please explain sussuration. I mean, I know what it means, etc, but... : thief
          • It's misogynistic in the fact that it's a very male perspective on female characters. Robert Jordan did t... : Modica Sol Solis
      • I agree 100%. Goodkind is a terrible writer and not even a very good storyteller. If I had the time, I wo... : Anti_dentite
  • Hmm, the first one is actually pretty good .... : nukewinter
  • I also thought the first one was very good and it went downhill from there. It's been a while, though. : Goncyn
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  I'd say skip over it in anticipation of the HBO's adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Apparently they ... : Jenings
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    He needs to hurry up and finish the series before he croaks. : c0bra
    • Truth to that, it would be one of the bigger cock teases I can recall to see some of the character thread... : Jenings
• any show with naked old men holding chickens is ok in my book : GloriousCow
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  You mean The Legend of the Seeker. It can be pretty terrible but some episodes have a minor spark that gi... : Landrosradick
  • iawtp : c0bra
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  I really like it, and the actress who plays kahlen is so fucking hot. : jayares
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    That's really its only saving grace, and the effects budget is decent. : Vantage
    • The slowmo battles are awesome too, hollywood could learn a few things from this show. : jayares
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  The fantasy genre is campy by default, so I think the show is decent for what it is. : thebigbeefsandwich
  • I keep wanting to reply to this post and say something eloquent about how claiming fantasy is "campy by d... : Goncyn
• thief, take my word as gospel on this subject, it's fucking terrible. I've read all the books (in add... : fuell
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  The show is horrible, but watchable. Unlike Merlin. That was just sad. I have no idea how they pla... : fleabug
  • I liked Merlin too :( : jayares