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  oh snap! : deject
  • IAWTOS : c0bra
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  Why not BF1942 :( : yosemiteclimber
  • perhaps in the future : kn1fe
• Be there, or be DEAD. : d0gbert
• Cool. I shall try to be there. : Jonathan
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  If my eye doesn't fall out I'm in. : ejectorpod
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    You don't need depth perception for 2D videogames ejectorpod. : orgcaptainnemo
    • I will need it when I'm trying to inappropriately grab your GFs ass tho :( : ejectorpod
• Hmm, I still have BF2 installed from the last shackbattle. : Sailor of Fortune
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  THIS CONFLICTS WITH MY AWESOME UT2004 SHACKBATTLE YOU JERKFACE. : omnova
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    lol you're never going to get one of these things going! : yosemiteclimber
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      We already had one and it was AWESOME so pfffffffffft. : omnova
      • i will play ut 2004 with u next week : kn1fe
  • Dude I bought UT3 and I likes it. : Lightzout
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    oh man i'd do this, but i lost my copy :( : kainen1
    • Unlost it. : omnova
    • looks like you need to buy another copy : kn1fe
  • i'm sorry your shackbattle is not in this castle : kn1fe
  • And the regular DoD:S one... Mondays will be free for Shackbattles this week onwards... : Alco23
• cool thanks : Lightzout
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  I'd consider doing this hmmm : Begawkiness
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    I wonder if I still have my copy... : Begawkology
    • whats up with your names? : kn1fe
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  I'll be at work :( : sanchez
  • you're always at work : kn1fe
• word I'll try to make dis! If vista plays nice that is : kainen1
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  Hm... I'll think about it... I'd really rather NOT play BF2 to tell you the truth... I've only got a copy... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    oh god you make it sound like bf2 is tetris or something : kn1fe
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      Nah, but I'm just pissed that I lost my CD-key to the game. : Maddog_Delphi97
      • i feel ya, I lost my bf1942 key. then I found it but couldnt find my cd's. now I found my cd's but lost ... : SolveChrist
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  I'd play, but I re-installed my copy I've never loaned to anyone and when I try to enter a multiplayer ga... : orgcaptainnemo
  • BUY IT AGAIN : kn1fe
  • you lose! : ejectorpod
• fyi widescreen users can use this command in your shortcut: "C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Battlefield ... : kn1fe
• I'll be there if my new mobo is here by then. : FPSDavid
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  Why not on Friday when I don't have to work the next day???? : tangles
  • Because I'll definitely play if it's moved to Friday... like, fer sher! : tangles
• that's a little late, but i'll be there : feek
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  I'm there...I wish it was 2142 instead but I'm still there. : mrwolf710
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    I would play some 2142 with you. Do you have a preferred time? : deject
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      I play 2142 too I want in. I have been missing 1942 as well. : Lightzout
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        in the future ill set one up, maybe after we try some mods for bf2 : kn1fe
        • Point of Existence mod for BF2 is fucking epic, btw : FPSDavid
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  I'm not going to go through the trouble of installing and patching this fucker and configuring it's 8,000... : Chepito.
  • I don't get why you would need to remap anything, unless you're one of those non-WASD people. : deject
  • ive shackmsg'd like 45 ppl who came to ones in the past, so i think turnout will be good : kn1fe
• i am in for sure : kill9
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  change it to BF1942, make it a sunday night around 8PM EST, and I'll be there with my gerbils on. : beastrabban
  • Now yer talkin'! : yosemiteclimber
  • i don't understand the love for 1942 over bf2 - there are so many little improvements in the interface th... : dedgecko
• if we do this again im in for next time : renoforrent

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  $39.99 at Fry's right now w/ no sales tax : sigpro
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    The game basically functions as a steam game at retail right? : pigvomit
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      you have to insert the CD everytime to play, at least thats what HL2 was like IIRC : stgdz
      • I... doubt this will be a requirement. : Fayk
      • You do? I bought the Might and Magic game disks, it authorized through steam, and required the disk. Ho... : pigvomit
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    Damn dude that's like stealing, I mean do we mail Valve the $10 in the mail so we don't get arrested or c... : ghost in my shell
    • I just had tomservo buy it for me on steam. In return I am sending him a used 360 so I can send him messa... : sigpro
    • when jokes go too far and are no longer funny at all...news at 10 : pancake humper
  • Yep, even their online store is selling it for $39, in case you don't have a Fry's nearby. : SatansFist
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  yea its a little too much for what amounts to a multiplayer mod : mega man
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    Such a stupid way of putting it. If you don't like the game fine, don't shit on everyone else's rainbo... : kpxkrnjc
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      Isn't saying the game is great equivalent to shitting on his rainbow? Well, not exactly, but it's a perf : thief
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        Because it's an obvious half-assed attempt at off-hand dismissal of a game that has lots of fun potential... : kpxkrnjc
        • I'll let you know what I think once I play some this week-end. But I doubt any shacker here can, as a zo... : thief
    • i like the game but it has flaws and its overpriced : mega man
    • How the hell is he shitting on anyone's rainbow? : Evil Benius
    • You're shitting on my shit-rainbow!!! : Albemuth
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    It was a multiplayer mod last year when they first showed it. It's a fully-fledged game now, albeit a mut... : Gonzo
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      I hate stat whores. Play the game for fun, not by numbers!!! /I usually kill the most infected btw.. O... : unjustend
      • Don't play Pac-Man for the high score, play for the unadulterated joy of eating pellets. :-P : Altanar
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    UT was totally a multiplayer mod of Unreal : EvilDolemite
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      The SP was terrible in all of the UT games and it only got worse after UT, so yeah... this statement is t... : ateam311
      • Wait wtf did I just type? Jesus. Kill me. : ateam311
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        Quake 3 was totally a multiplayer mod of Quake : EvilDolemite
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          im pretty sure they made a new engine just for quake 3 along with new netcode and didnt just up the shade... : mega man
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            latestchatty.x is totally a multiplayer mod of the front page. : omnova
            • youre just a mod from your parents genes OOOOOHHHH : mega man
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            so we can agree that any game made with the engine of a previous title is a mod? : EvilDolemite
            • I think it goes along with the feeling that large-scale free mods (counter-strike, natural selection, tea... : mtgDoofy
  • dumb : boomstickah
  • lol : onji
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  yeah, i like how it's fucking insanely expensive yet people all justified steam's limitations by saying i... : OMGzImBurning
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    No one ever said that. : EvilDolemite
    • oh please. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=13843265 http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17884638 h... : OMGzImBurning
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      At least no one who knew wtf. : skinlab133
      • and some things are cheaper. : skinlab133
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  Left 4 Dead is only £19.97 on Amazon, complete with free delivery: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Left-4-Dead-P... : A Sponge
  • Good find! Pity myself and everyone I know has already bought it from Steam >:( : nodebug
  • That's only 30 US dollars. I'd pick it up for that. : Horn
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    Is EA distributing it in Europe? If not, that might be why it's cheaper over there.. I have a theory th... : deathofrats
    • EA are the publisher in the UK at least... : losimagic
• And yet you can buy the box from play.com for 22.99 GBP = 34.50 USD I don't understand. It used to ... : rock elf
• Amazon Friday 3am - Saturday 3am, Left 4 Dead for $20, according to this. http://www.crunchgear.com/2008... : AxeMan808

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• I agree. If it weren't Valve doing this, people would be up in arms. I haven't had a chance to play the... : afty
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  So is the demo unplayable now? : nomaad
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    Yes : Schnapple
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      Really? What the fuck? I've been busy so I got to play it once, and that was basically just dicking aro... : Arcanum
      • Yeah it's a pretty bad dick move on the part of Valve. I understand they're trying to avoid a UT99-st... : Schnapple
      • Me too. What a waste of bandwith for 20 minutes! At least I wasn't that interested in the game anyway. : guigr
    • Locking the demo makes *zero* sense. The folks who were going to buy the game at release already did. T... : genom
    • wait wtf asdflsd;f : derelict515
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  Uhh, that's because when the demo was "unlocked" it clearly said "7 DAYS LEFT" We all knew it was coming. : disposition
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    I honestly didn't put much thought into that. I figured it was an advertisement for the full game. Call... : kek
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      For the same reason people defend Apple to the death - Valve has so much good will that when they pull di... : Schnapple
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        Really? I love Valve too but I think this move is stupid and L4D is overhyped. I've no problem calling th... : avatar_58
        • I agree with you completely and I remember the thread where you were raked over the coals for this opinio... : Schnapple
      • Apple - Google - Valve - Blizzard The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse! : guigr
  • That's not even the point. The point is WHY they are doing this. NO matter the reason it's stupid and n... : dilutedq
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  Well, look at it from Valve's position. Which number do you think is higher: A) The number of people ... : fishbone
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    If B is the reason then the game has issues and this is not the fault of the demo. : Evil Benius
    • Ding! : Arcanum
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      It also has a lot to do with ALL OF THE OTHER FUCKING GAMES OUT. : pancake humper
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        Well it's backfiring then because since I'd rather buy all the other games instead of this one... I st... : Schnapple
        • Yep. I can think of at least 5 other games I'd rather give my money to that *have* demos and don't pull t... : avatar_58
    • Completely agree. I think this is a terrible move by Valve. : Attica Blue
  • You forgot C) People who would like to try the game without paying for it - find they can't - and then pi... : gakera
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  I can't say I really blame them. The demo has such a high replay value people are getting burned out on ... : changejar419
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    What? Just disable MP then if they are so worried. There's no reason why they can't let people have the S... : avatar_58
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      But as I've said previously, SP is not indicative of the gameplay online. MP is sooooo much better. : Arctic Fox
      • I've played the demo for probably 30 hours, I never wanted to try single player. I bought the game for 4... : unjustend
• I only tried the demo once and yeah it's fucking stupid. I can't try it anymore unless I'm willing to giv... : avatar_58
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  I don't understand what's so great about the game but might have tried the demo when I found the time. ... : nudel
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    I have a "demo first" mentality too but I bought Fallout 3 even without a demo or any plans for one. I wo... : Schnapple
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      Just wait for Valve to do one of the inevitable free weekends then. Problem solved. : Arctic Fox
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        Not cool to establish a time pressure for your leisure time. Lots of folks have jobs and families and fi... : kek
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          If you don't want the dictating when you play, just give them $50. : TroZ
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            Really I think Valve should have just said that the 'demo' was a open beta because that was clearly what ... : Arctic Fox
            • Yeah, that probably would have been better, however, the bf1942 demo is still being played by people, so ... : TroZ
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          You are not a lowly mortal Kek, just a pissed off poor bastard that can't afford the game. Since you cann... : X-Nice
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            I am neither pissed off nor poor. I may be a little starved for gaming time but I think my concerns are ... : kek
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              You have a point, I think it might be a tad trivial though. Just because the lack of game demo's isn't a ... : X-Nice
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                This ties into my point about returns, which is related to this argument. If they're not going to allow ... : kek
                • Well, what do you think about Steams system of allowing refunds on pre-orders right up to the night befor... : X-Nice
    • I'll buy Fallout 3 without a demo, too (when I have time) but L4D isn't on my "must play" list. I'd like ... : nudel
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  I thought the only way to get the demo was to pre-order the game? Since I didn't what to buy it, I missed... : Slowtreme
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    If you preordered it you got the demo two weeks ago, if not you could get it one week ago. : Schnapple
    • oh well I accidentally the whole demo :( : Slowtreme
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  ask for your money back : boomstickah
  • too late, they already asked for their demo back. : kek
• i agree. valve are top notch but this was a bone headed idea. : anthonybean
• You obviously didn't read Evening Reading last night. : Arctic Fox
• What the fuck? Really? : silent prophet
• Locking the demo was pretty harsh for those with little time. But like you said, it's Valve - they're the... : even4
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  What the Hell? What if, you know because I don't have all fucking day to play games, I get done with the ... : funnynamehere
  • I imagine you'll have to wait for a preview weekend : Maarten Goldstein
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  That's it. I'm not buying it. because i'm too busy playing woltk lol : [7]kami
  • You're playing WHAT!? : Bamii
• I dl'd it but have been out of town so I couldn't play it yet :( No sale for me : AisfortomAto
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  I'm sick of this fucking company and their hatred for iron sights. : deadhorse
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    Yeah, that kills me. Iron sights makes so much sense, and I'm always so tempted to press the left trigger... : lookitzpancakes
    • Yeah, this really needs to be a standard. Even wish they had it in Fallout. : deadhorse
    • I keep doing this. Although suddenly spazzing out in a melee attack when nothing is around is kinda funny... : Fyunch Click
    • same here on the 360. it's alright on the pc though since the mouse provides for better aiming. : Mmmmmoo
    • Just crouch if you want better aim. : DinK
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    I love that there is no iron sights. : chungathebunga
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      I also hate iron sights. : unjustend
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        what are iron sights : fishbone
        • http://www.kaneohegs.com/images/M1A-Socom-039.jpg : kek
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  Makes perfect sense to me. Valve is in the business of selling games in order to make money. : newek
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    that only makes sense if the demo has just as much value as the full game : painangel
    • Or close enough that many people won't buy the full game. If that's the case, something is very wrong. : Arcanum
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  "you people"? : deveus1
  • Is it because we're black? : Bamii
• I'm done buying games based on hype only to set them down after a few hours, pulling the demo for this wa... : painangel
• Hopefully they'll reconsider. : guido anchovy
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  They are going for the hard sell. The market is saturated with top-tier titles right now and so I think i : ayesel
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    what surprises me the most is how many douche moves can be justified simply by saying it was committed by... : painangel
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      Yeah. I've never bought that argument. It's nothing but a huge cop out. : hawke
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        "YOU JUST SET THAT MAN ON FIRE!!!" "It's ok, I work for Megacorp Inc. We set him on fire for profit!" : Arcanum
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          Well I reject the premise that Valve harmed anyone. Did you not notice the part of my post where I listed : ayesel
          • "Harm" is a relative term. No, Valve didn't physically harm anybody. Of course not. But Valve is an in... : kek
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            It's called honesty. Not getting a demo at all for a game sucks, but at least the company is being hones... : Arcanum
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              From the official press release: On November 11 the demo will be made available to all Xbox 360 and PC : ayesel
              • WOAH THERE, intellectual honesty? D-does that exist? I mean, is that possible? : yAak
              • bah. that proves nothing : hamachi
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                So I have to read a press release to find out that it's time-limited? How about making it obvious. : Arcanum
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                  I agree that Valve should have made it more clear, but you used the word "honesty" to imply that Valve wa... : ayesel
                  • I agree and I'm not vitriolic. I'm genuinely concerned that this is the beginning of the end of freely a... : kek
            • You're uninformed on this topic : fishbone
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    I see it as being closely analogous to this: I go to an ice cream shop, and I'm interested in a partic... : Arcanum
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      You had an entire week to try it out. It wasn't the full game. It wasn't taken away without warning, ei... : DrWaffles
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        I included both those facts in my analogy, and I received no warning. : Arcanum
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          "It's the same thing with the L4D demo. I was offered a taste of the full game, but that taste was then t : DrWaffles
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            The counter they never told you the significance of? I thought it was just a "we're releasing the full g... : Arcanum
            • I'm just pointing out the fallacies in your analogy. : DrWaffles
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            I'm not sure whose side you are on. : weaselmeister
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              Neither? But I'm probably biased toward Valve. I had my time with the demo, I knew that I had a week to... : DrWaffles
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                IAWTP. Had it been a single player demo, then fair enough, but keeping the demo going would tie up server... : Mr.Finkster
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                  Weren't the servers for the demo user-hosted anyway? : Arcanum
                  • Yes, but whose servers are they downloading the demo from, whose servers are listing all the user-hosted ... : Mr.Finkster
    • You:"Can I taste that ice cream?" IceCreamman: "Sure here, but this ice cream expires in a week" guy ho... : unjustend
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      When you're offered a taste of ice cream, you get ONE taste and then have to buy the ice cream if you wan... : changejar419
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        This analogy is already stretched beyond recognition. Lets go back to software trials, hmm? Every other... : kek
        • Is it really that obtuse that a company is trying new things to make money in a failing economy? How... : changejar419
  • Yeah, really too bad I don't blow 50 bucks on every title without playing it because somebody says it's f... : gibolas1234
• I got to play it once. And not in multiplayer. Why would I buy it now based on that measly sampling? At t... : Albemuth
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  The reason we aren't is because it'd be retarded to do so. Where is the TF2 demo? Where is the Half Life : OverloadUT
  • HL1 demo was a completely different level from the game... i still have the CD i picked up at walmart for... : dignan
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    They actually do have a demo for Half-Life 2 and Portal out. : DrWaffles
    • And Half-Life Day 1. All of which I can play at my leisure. Your argument, OverloadUT is invalid. :( : kek
    • LOOK HOW WRONG I AM :( : OverloadUT
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18487652#itemanchor_18487652 : Arcanum
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  Let me see. 4 maps. Give away 1 in the demo... Only leaves 3. But then, look at their other g... : hawke
  • Not quite accurate. The demo is 2 of 20 maps. It's less than half of one of the four movies/scenarios. : DinK
• I'm disappointed. Give it another week or two at least. With the retail, gogamer may have it cheap with... : thejm4n
• I'm pretty unimpressed. Would have liked to get some of my friends to try it. :/ oh well. : terath
• it was a pretty underwhelming demo anyways, made me a lot less enthusiastic for L4D : brewsterdog
• I agree that they should eventually take it down, but I do think it was really stupid of them to take it ... : Begawkiness
• It's valve, this is shacknews. They are going to accept what they do, and even twist logic so that it is... : dilutedq
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  ITS NOT LIKE THEY CANT RELEASE ANOTHER ONE. why would they want to cut into their paying player base by k... : hirez
  • Yeah, they'll probably do one of those free weekend deals in a few months like with DoD:S and TF2 when bi... : DrWaffles
  • Don't try, hirez, no-one listens anyway. : Arctic Fox
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    That's definitely a valid point. I played the Q3 demo for months (but I did eventually buy it). Whether i... : rock elf
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      I think that's completely besides the point. The point is about empowered consumers. Demos that game ma... : kek
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        The point is you're a commie and want the use of someone else's work for free! You hark back to the sh... : zen2k
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          And my friend I originally posted about who didn't have a chance to try it on his system? He should suck... : kek
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            I've already seen one thread were someone was saying fry's already has it for $30. If price is your m... : zen2k
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              So my friend plunks down his $30 to try the game and doesn't like it. A shame that his schedule didn't f... : kek
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                To continue the clothing analogy, you can't return underwear you don't like either. You know, I though... : zen2k
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                  So in your metaphor Left4Dead is used underwear. :) I don't think such a comparison will make into the m... : kek
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                    Are you allowed to loiter in a mall? If you're not purchasing items, you're not legally allowed to be ... : zen2k
                    • So downloading demos and not buying them is equivalent to loitering. :( Some might call that 'shopping' : kek
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          "there are precedents for people that play on demo servers for eternity" It's not like the choices for... : nudel
          • Nothing stopping them from having a free weekend or some other promotion down the line either. : zen2k
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    If that was the case it would make more sense to release a playtime limited demo. They could track it eas... : enyakk
    • which I bet they will do, once initial sales have slowed. : hirez
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  it would be a horrible idea for them to let it run longer than a week cause it fucking sucks. constant cr... : mega man
  • As a counter point. I had none of these issues. : unjustend
• Wow I hadn't even had a chance to try it, been playing wow too much. I downloaded it hoping to like it an... : rhuntley12
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  battlefield bad company for Xbox and PS3 USED To have multiplayer until they stop hosting the servers ... : quadalupeupe
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    this is why those specific games suck. COD4 you play peer to peer so no company has to host the server. : FormerHPB
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      Actually the games are tons of fun and I am glad they host the servers for us, fuck some tool with a crap... : Evil Benius
      • It's pretty rare that I run into problems with COD4. The biggest problem is that the host quits the game... : FormerHPB
• Shack loves Valve and Steam so much, even when they pull a dick move like this, we give them a free pass.... : Finestaut
• Limited time demo... Well these guys are just innovating all over the place. Guess next time they release... : emcea
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  Temporary demos are lame. Looking forward to some kind of subscription demo service in the future. I li... : Sludgehead
  • I also think a 3gb download (or whatever it was...deleted now) for a demo is a bit steep. I realize havi... : Sludgehead
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  Honestly I think the demo removal was to prevent the mod scene from abusing it. Think about it. People ... : Wombat Woo
  • ^^^ ding ding. : Iwannaacura
  • thats almost a good explanation except the demo was planned to be temporary from the get go. its not like... : mega man
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  You know why it was so easy to do this on pc....steam. : SlingBlaze
  • Steam did 9/11. : ayesel
  • I woke up this morning and wanted to play the demo so bad, I don't have the 50 bucks to play the full ver... : itstimetoshine
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  I think this was all just a big semantic mess up by Valve. If they just called it a beta, there would be... : DrWaffles
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    if they called it beta they people would have endlessly shit all over them for having a "beta" 2 weeks be... : yAak
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      They should have just not released a fucking thing at all. I swear, the video game community harbors som... : DrWaffles
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        Present company excluded I'm assuming? :( : kek
        • It's just a wide, sweeping generalization :). I might be hypocritical, too. :( : DrWaffles
      • If they did not release the demo I personally know of three copies that would not have been purchased. : DinK
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    I completely agree here. I think a better move would have been to call it a 7 day free trial. I saw pos... : kek
    • Right. The problem isn't the time limit itself. The problem is that the time limit was never made parti... : Arcanum
• Its a move you could see EA making. Sad to see valve adopt that sort of business practice. : Beady
• There's too many games out right now to care about such shit. We would certainly bitch during the dryspel... : ghost in my shell
• Most games don't get demos. It's not the blindingly stupid move everyone claims it is. The demo was to ... : yAak
• I replied to a similar thread last night: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18485866 But basically, ... : dopeman
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  its valve, of course they wont get shit from the shack : maulla
  • uh... : fishbone
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  What do you mean "you people"? : Lawgiver
  • What do YOU mean 'you people?' : FormerHPB
  • Valve went full retard. : emcea
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  DAMN THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS FOR DISABLING THE DEMO ON THE RELEASE DATE OF THEIR GAME NEVERMIND THAT MOST DEM... : glio1337
  • caps lock is not my friend : glio1337
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    if it were EA or epic doing this there would be a shitstorm. guaranteed. : maulla
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      That's just it. EA or Epic would never release a demo prior to a games release. Valve did, and whose to s... : glio1337
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        uh both EA and Epic have quite a good history of releasing pre-release demos. its understandable on a mas... : Maarten Goldstein
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          No shit... wasn't the BF1942 demo released way before the retail game came out? The shack played the hell... : malevolence
          • Yeah... Wake Island was so good at the time that I never bought the actual game until last year for like ... : yAak
      • Mirrors Edge had a demo out well before release. : TreMetal
      • The thing is, the demo was made, so why take it away now? I wouldn't mind if they time-limited it from th... : nudel
    • Thats because EA and Epic suck dick and Valve is awesome. : virus
  • hey look! Let's defend valve with no real point, avoid the topic, and show once again we can't criticize... : dilutedq
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  It doesn't matter because the game sucks anyway. : DJ Clipdat
  • ohhhh burn : lakren
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    troll spotted : Iwannaacura
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      don't startle the witch : yosemiteclimber
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        some fag told me to "shoot the car" when i was on the ground fighting for my life.. it was my second time... : oHnOES
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          What does shooting the car do? : action wombmate
          • it makes the car alarm sound and TONS of fucking zombies come from everywhere : oHnOES
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            Sets off the car alarm attracting a massive horde of zombies to come charging in , it's freaking awesome ... : yosemiteclimber
            • I need to learn how to refresh... : yosemiteclimber
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  i understand that losing a demo when the game is released is troublesome, but they have to balance lettin... : dahanese
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    I think they screwed up the balance. That they have to balance things may be true but only giving people ... : nudel
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      1 *particular* week, I should have said. If I got to try the game for a week, or even a few hours, withou... : nudel
      • Like, for example, the week Finestaut was out on his honeymoon. : Finestaut
    • I really think the demo's primary goal was to spread word of mouth, not to actually give everyone a chanc... : yAak
    • you may be right about 1 week. i'm not sure many companies can get away with such a short demo. some can.... : dahanese
    • You would be surprised at the number of people that are perfectly content with just playing the same 2 le... : Prozium
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    I agree to an extent here. I think that one of the games major selling points is it's replayabitly, and a... : Lawgiver
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      timelimit demo's always get cracked. : Iwannaacura
      • yeah. and on top of it, the fact you could put more shit/get some more shit (like the zombies, although a... : dahanese
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        Hmm, well I don't know much about hacking but since the demo was out can't people just hack that to keep ... : Lawgiver
        • no, they locked the demo, you'd have to unlock it somehow. : hirez
• This is surprising.. I had no idea the demo was going to expire. I was going to check it out eventually ... : sikander
• I'm a Valve fanboy, but I've got to say this was a dumb move. I convinced a couple of friends to download... : sneak
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  Hmm, ok this is crappy. For some reason I thought that those who did not preorder L4D could try the demo ... : r3ckless
  • My friend apparently thought the same thing. I might just gift it to him for his B-day because his wife ... : unjustend
  • Yeah. My issue starts with the fact that it wasn't communicated very well. I downloaded the demo last nig... : derelict515
• that's idiotic but what do you expect of multi-million dollar companies? ethics? LOL. all they see is hmm... : thebigbeefsandwich
• Wow. I had no idea that was the case. :( I guess I won't be playing this game at all now. Maybe rent i... : thecray
• i dont care because i played the demo for a few hours : dantastic
• Eh, I'd bank on Week 1 impulse buys too. I would however mention that there was going to be a preview wee... : Damodred
• Well i laid most of my venom out last night about this fucking load of bullshit. Fuck them. I was just ... : trevis

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  The flag annoys me. : thief
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    why are you so negative theif! i'm just fucking with you. but seriously, i have a friend who will look ... : dopeman
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      Oh no, it's an awesome photo, but I noticed the flag and it just like, well, yeah. Sorry, I don't mean t... : thief
      • i don't see a flag :O : GloriousCow
    • here is a not so great example of this commentary: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlieu/2807943012/sizes/l/ : dopeman
  • gmd diss : mr.sleepy
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    I didn't even notice it and now I can't stop seeing it ! : gmd
    • That was my point, even if you're being sarcastic :P : thief
  • are you talking about that little red triangle? : scottythejock
• the picture is so big that it's kil : ateam311
• should get a print of THAT : AlexXdude
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  why did you delete it i was looking for the flag! : dopeman
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    I still am looking for the flag. What fucking flag. : mittense
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      There is no flag. : pipboy
      • FUCK SHIT WHORE CUNT. : mittense
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    I just uploaded a new version, still has flag ! : gmd
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      WHERES THE GODDAMN FLAG : GloriousCow
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        HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE IT?!?!?! : thief
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          FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : GloriousCow
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            oh there it is. : GloriousCow
            • It looks like one of those marker flags they use to mark utility lines that are running underground. : ateam311
        • Dammit. I didn't see it before, so I had to go look for it. Now my enjoyment of this very nice HDR photo... : Teiresias
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          is this something that colorblind people will have difficulty seeing because i cannot see the fucking fla... : dopeman
          • oh snap you faggots. is that what you call a flag? are we talking about one of those little sprinkler m... : dopeman
          • I can see an orange cone(?) I think. : Bamtan
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            there is no flag. There are one or two dust blips, but no flag. : terath
            • healing brush to the rescue! : terath
            • seems to be a hdr anomaly, they are not in the raw files and they are perfectly aligned. : gmd
          • It's really fucking tiny, even if you're colourblind you'll see it because it totally makes a little WTF ... : windowpane
    • That tiny little red thing? : mittense
    • dear gmd, i cannot find this flag you speak of, but it appears that you may have dust bunnies on your ... : dopeman
• Very nice dude. : yosemiteclimber
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  what flag : wtf242
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    nevermind i see it.. it is kind of annoying : wtf242
    • Once you see it, you can't stop looking at it. Photoshop this out gmd, it's horrible :( : yosemiteclimber
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  Looks more like a cone than a flag : dysfunctional
  • You may be right. GMD, will you go investigate the matter immediately? : thief
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  Too much blue : bRAINsick
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    Nah, the thing about HDR is you can actually see detail in all shadows etc. Shadows are bluer than sunli... : mlev
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      Yeah I kept looking at the picture and I did notice that the blue was mostly in the shadows. So, my b : bRAINsick
      • not really a B at all.. its actually a very interesting phenomenon. it helps for eye training as well. ... : mlev
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  Me too me too! http://fc94.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/249/8/c/My_first___good___HDR_by_Kannon23.jpg : mlev
  • How shit your picture just raped everything else I've seen today. That's gorgeous. : mittense
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    The cone annoys me. : thief
    • SHUT UP ACYBERKINETICKEATS. : mittense
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    holy shit dude, that's awesome : Yanks
    • Thank you guys very much. Here's my HDR gallery: http://kannon23.deviantart.com/gallery/#HDR The por... : mlev
  • Wow. : yosemiteclimber
  • OMFG, this is amazing. : Super Sparker
• Ok, after looking for five minutes for that damn flag, the rest of the picture loaded. I thought it was d... : I7 SilverFox
• Motorstorm? : getfrisky

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  What OS : indosauros
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    XP : dahanese
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      Does the phone look like it is charging when plugged in : indosauros
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        yes, it is charging when plugged into the USB port. : dahanese
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          From a random forum post: 1) open "run" from the start menu, and run "services.msc". 2)find "Apple M... : indosauros
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            it is both "automatic" and "started" : dahanese
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              Any chance they are USB 1.0/1.1 ports and not 2.0? Probably a long shot : indosauros
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                Just another check does it show up under Scanners and Cameras in the Control Panel : indosauros
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                  well, i had her plug it into a different computer and that computer recognized the iphone. so now i'm try... : dahanese
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                    Get the make/model of the computer. : Prozium
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                      this is like pulling teeth. i've got "intel R (duh) pentium (r) 4 2.80" i'm really not sure if you can... : dahanese
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                        By make/model I meant is it a dell c200 series or a compaq v2000, or something like that. : Prozium
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                          i know. i think it was a custom built computer, so there is none. : dahanese
                          • you can use http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php to get the mobo model and manufacturer. if it's not terribly o... : eisencc
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  Have her try another USB port and then have her update to the latest version of iTunes. : Prozium
  • did all that, rebooted already. finding no new hardware. : dahanese
• logmein.com so you can see what's going on. : Deathlove
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  Does she have any mapped network drives? : Jonathan
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    no to that. : dahanese
    • Have her run compmgmt.msc - How many drives appear under disk management? : Jonathan
• Is she on a laptop? : mattfl
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  This is a pretty common problem. What she's going to need to do is to go ahead and check her settings, m... : ejectorpod
  • I think this is the solution. : Jonathan
  • ^^^^^^ This is an offical iPhone Apple Repair man! He knows how to fix it! : kikilupo
  • UHC lists her as a man just like me. next. : dahanese
  • We've already seen them : sigpro
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    are you going to try to meet everybodys sister and then not have a three way with them? : Degenerate
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      yeah sort of : ejectorpod
      • k. I'll see what I can do : Degenerate
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    She's quite a cutie. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • you know the other one, but we all look a lot alike. : dahanese
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  Dumb question, is the phone turned on? That is, out of the box, you have to press the top button to turn... : goatjc
  • the "USB --> itunes" icon should show up on the screen of the phone. : goatjc
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    no question is too dumb, don't worry. does the phone have to be plugged in to the computer when she's doi... : dahanese
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      no, when she starts the phone up, that'll be the first screen. You pretty much have to do that before us... : goatjc
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        err, it doesn't have to be plugged in. She should just hold the top button down for 2 seconds, then she ... : goatjc
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          apparently when she did that it showed her "the apple." : dahanese
          • The apple shows on initial boot, like a splash screen. If it just stays on the apple, her phone might be... : goatjc
      • hm. can you show me a picture or something? i can't find that in apple help docs and being able to show h... : dahanese
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        • Late: But this http://images.macnn.com/macnn/news/0801/iphone/iphone113_5.jpg : goatjc
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  Let me give her my email address just in case it starts to randomly email pics to people right when she g... : risimage
  • How did you ever find that... please tell me you're the guy. : RogerDandy
  • I can't stop reading these :) "as a former mac genius myself, my professional opinion is that YOUR HUS : mafu5150
• iphones are not compatible with ramen : azenmaster
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  my dad put me through this when he bought one. i had to download and read the user manual, then translat... : biskits
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    i think she doesn't have USB 2.0. that's all i can think of. if it works on another computer, and this ... : dahanese
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      isn't USB 2.0 backwards compatible? i think it just goes slower if you plug it into a 1.1 jack. : electroly
      • Apple's site says only compatible with 2.0 : indosauros
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        The spec is backwards compatible but I believe some devices can require 2.0. : OverloadUT
        • ah. if anything is going to do that i bet it would be an iphone. seems like the most likely candidate : electroly
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      usb 1.1 should still work, it just wont transfer files fast... USB has backwards compatibility : hirez
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        The iPhone is USB2 only, but seriously try the AV/internet security software thing. I've seen old vers... : peanut-
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          yeah, seems like it. USB 2.0 all over the specs & manual. she's going to need one of these: http://www.ne... : hirez
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            it's a desktop. i don't think those work. : dahanese
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              oh shi... I thought I read laptop somewhere... these are what she needs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr... : hirez
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                can she buy it at best buy? lol : dahanese
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                  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7833785&st=usb+2+pci&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=114229862600... : hirez
                  • you rock. : dahanese
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  Serious anser She needs to uninstall iTunes, uninstall Apple Mobile Device Driver, restart, reinstall i... : peanut-
  • I like to highlight all of my retarded spelling mistakes in red. : peanut-
  • Sometimes the first option doesn't work because the registry is fucked You may need to uninstall every... : ErikTehRed
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  This happened to my iPod Touch so I took it to an Apple store and it worked on their computer and when I ... : FPSDavid
  • it worked on her coworkers computer but not her own. i'm sending her peanut's advice as well as hirez's d... : dahanese
• A lot of computers only have USB 1 ports on the front...have her plug it into a USB port on the back. : mrwolf710
• sometimes it won't recognize unless itunes is open before you plug it in : aeg1x
• That happens to my ipod when I kill the mobile device driver app in my task manager. Restarting my compu... : Ellissd

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• system shock 2 is better : JINKY
• system shock 2 ftw. : Xanthos
• system shock 2 : indosauros
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  Dead Space : CrustaR
  • fo realz? how did you like BioShock, CrustaR? : Korban
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    I too had a much more fun time with Deadspace. Though I will say Bio Shock had a much better story. : braaains
    • Yeah, the story was better in Bioshock, but the pacing was much worse than Dead Space's. : CrustaR
    • I'm going to agree. Although I did like Bioshock a lot. But SS2 blows them both outta the water. : Haku-Jin
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  System Shock 2 really is better, though of course the graphics are dated. : Conan
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    There's a half finished user made mod that drastically updates most of the character models in the game. ... : Dynotaku
    • Oh, I'm a huge Thief nerd, so yeah, Dark engine is okay. It always had good character animation, it's mos... : Conan
• Have you played system shock 2? : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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  Tecmo Bowl : orgcaptainnemo
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    Super Tecmo Bowl : PapaBoo
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      Hey man, some of us prefer only 8 men on the field at a time. : Totenjaeger
      • moving all at the same time on kickoffs : PapaBoo
    • Super Tecmo Bowl: Final Edition. /EOT : pgharavi
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  i own the game, was sent by the gracious dahanese... i love her. but i never beat it : oHnOES
  • you are a bad gamer. : Iwannaacura
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  Burger Time!!!!!!!!! : Totenjaeger
  • ^^^ This man knows whats up. : baronzemo78
• I'm sorry. : skankcore
• Dead Space : .ka`boom.zZz.
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  Best game ever? That's surprising I thought the combat felt a little weird, I don't know how to explain i... : DM7
  • the mouse controls were laggy, some of it got better after the patch but it still had latency and was jus... : Hoax
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    ^ This is my problem with Left 4 Dead. Raises shields, Scotty! Flaming imminent! : theangrywaffles
    • That's surprising too, I think L4D and Bioshock "feel" completely different. L4D feels like Half Life 2's... : DM7
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  The Secret of Monkey Island. : GloriousCow
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    Monkey Island 2. : heartsauce
    • an adventure game I actually like. I always have to use walkthroughs with these games, though. I never ... : valael
    • b& : Katarn3279
• Anything with an ounce of immersion/challenge that doesn't suffer from a bad case of consolitis. But y... : Master Tonberry
• guess it depends on preference, i tend to prefer more character creation / rpg elements and would tend to... : wetard
• I'm trying to remember moments in the game; I played it once shortly after it came out. Nothing seems to... : DrWaffles
• Resident Evil 4 : mista mista
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  Bioshock is like a huge tub of amazing jellybeans but then you realise the only one left is ass flavour. ... : silentbobuk
  • That was.... poetic. : Ocelot
  • That's the way I felt about the first STALKER game. Haven't played part 2 yet. : Rotten Deadite
• In his defense, he had HL2 as an all-time favorite. (Psst, System Shock 2). : Damodred
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  Mario Galaxy is tied with Link to the Past as best games of all time. : Yanks
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    don't you mean Ocarina of Time is tied with Link to the Past? : Korban
    • I never really got the love for OoT. Not really my thing. : Yanks
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  Bioshock seems like the kinda game to me that get's some things really really right and other things real... : SenorSpine
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    what did you hate about it? are you on the "ALL THE ENEMIES LOOK THE SAME!" train? : wetard
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      Why are you assuming I didn't like it? : SenorSpine
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        i didn't mean to sound accusatory i just really wanted to use that phrase.. it's the most common complain... : wetard
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          Those people need to play the witcher then. the first version had like 5 identical npcs on screen whereve... : Hoax
          • That's a RPG and I give them more tolerance for some reason. We can pull the same card with Left 4 Dead i... : DM7
• Quake 3 Multiplayer : ra1n
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  If you absolutely LOVED Bioshock, and not just for the graphics, you MUST play System Shock 2. You REALLY... : AxeMan808
  • Yep, going to echo this as well. SS2 is outstanding. : dravalen
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    1 has not aged well. I wouldn't recommend it. 2 is still suberp. : EvilDolemite
    • "suberp" lolol : ninj0rc
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    where can copies of system shock 2 be obtained? : Jackass1233
    • I dunno but I sure hope GOG jumps on it. : crummynz
• Most of them? I dunno, I was unimpressed with a lot of Bioshock. There's some cool ideas, but the e... : Vincent Grayson
• haha wow. That kind of sucks for you, sorry. : virus
• Space Quest 3. (but srsly I need to play Bioshoq) : pipboy
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  the horrible inaccurate controls and crappy movement aside bioshock is a pretty good game. by far not as ... : Hoax
  • I disagree about it not being as good as he says, I absolutely loved Bioshock, and it is up there in my t... : AroundTheFur1380
• I couldn't take my eyes off Deus Ex and System Shock 2, even when I played them for the first time in 200... : Zolneirz
• Agreed. One of the last single player games I completed : bozer
• is it too late to jump on the system shock 2 bandwagon? : dextius
• I'll say that was the best first 2 hours of a game I've ever played. It was all downhill after that. But ... : Pettytheft
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  Yeah, dunno about that, been taking it slowly and playing it in short bursts and I'm already sick of the ... : lightly inclined
  • slow even... : lightly inclined
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    The combat is vilely boring after an hour or two. The garish cartoony art gets tiring on the eyes after a... : randomposter
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      The art was my favourite part (except the reveal) : crummynz
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        I liked the art itself, as in specific assets, but the implementation and lighting of it really fucked wi... : randomposter
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          I'd never seen that kind of meta-narrative before in a videogame. I love it when videogames reference the... : crummynz
          • Max Payne. : randomposter
• System Shock 2 kicks its ass back to the shire : randomposter
• Half Life 1 : locater16
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  i'm playing fallout 3 and my girlfriend is playing bioshock. from what i can tell, bioshock is like "FPS... : skryte
  • That's because Bioshock is a shooter? : crummynz
• bioshock was very good, but in the end it was not as deep as it could have been. Other RPGs have stronge... : sroylance

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  Seriously, me and the first group I played with had the best time. Can't wait for more. : Serpico74
  • It's epic I love it. : brickmatt
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  Last night the team I was playing with took cover in a room with only one door to recover. I closed the ... : thekidd
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    Smokers are so ANNOYINGly epic. I hate those bastards. : unjustend
    • They make for some amaing moments. I love this game. : brickmatt
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      You are not the only one. One time on the first episode everyone except me had low health, and I was a zo... : DM7
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        Stories like this are why this game is epic. : brickmatt
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          Here's a story rethius sent me on skype today. I cleaned it up so it isn't a chat log: I am nearing th : tomservo
          • thats great. I love how he's expecting a horde and gets a Tank instead >:) : hirez
          • Ahaha exactly what I'm talking about. : brickmatt
          • haha nice :P : DM7
      • I was on the roof of the hospital near the end and a smoker sniped me from a far building while i was usi... : Phunk
    • I wish they took a bit more damage, but yes, good lord they are awesome. : tomservo
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    If you melee someone whose being held by a smoker or a hunter they will be released immediately : extrahappyturtle
    • I like to melée boomers. : brickmatt
  • This morning, I had the most pant-shitting gaming moment in L4D. (game, not demo) I was playing the se... : CRasterImage
• anyone interested in playing now? http://steamcommunity.com/id/burningeye : burning eye
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  I know I should get the PC version for maps and mods and more shackers to play with but I can't help but ... : derelict515
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    you know you want PC. Microsoft will want to charge you for new maps. Think of the custom maps we will ge... : Iwannaacura
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      Yeah, I just do so much less gaming when I have to reboot into Windows and play on an older laptop vs jus... : derelict515
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        I thought booting into windows would kill it for me, but it is so much fun it won't be a problem. : brickmatt
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          I lost my mouse when I moved here 3 months ago and still haven't bought one. That's how much of gaming I'... : derelict515
          • of = pc. Stupid phone : derelict515
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  You are an ass for bailing on me. : sigpro
  • My connection to that server was ass, everyone was warping. Sorry. =( : brickmatt
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  Yeah, my first session with the game was with three friends and I went from 10am to 4pm solid playing the... : Beady
  • Oh, and one of us got in the boat at the end of one of the campaigns just as the horde swarmed the pier, ... : Beady
• yea i dunno wtf these people are talking about. the game is amazing and totally worth the cost : eeeealmo
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  I like it a lot but I'm not sure if "variety" is a term I'd use to describe it. Ratchet and Clank has va... : Rampancy
  • Fair enough. I feel like the randomized aspects make for a variety of strategies and experiences but I un... : brickmatt
• It's a girlfriend friendly game, at least for mine it is. She likes it. We played a few missions in adv... : jingletard
• It's all I can think about while here at work and I am in agony. I want to go home, not go to class tonig... : tomservo
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  yes. I just love that its never the exact same game. What you thought there'd be better weapons here? HAH... : hirez
  • Oh my god reading this post makes me giddy :D :D : tomservo
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    Yeah they really throw the bosses at you now, makes it completely unpredictable. Also, I am a hunter MAGN... : yosemiteclimber
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      I'm finally getting better at picking them off before they pounce. OH, and I thinkthe best way to get the... : hirez
      • Yea alot of scrubs dont know how to pounce correctly, but when you have good "player controlled" zombies ... : Iwannaacura
      • Yeah unless you are an aimbot, I always melee the hunters off my friends before I shoot him. : DM7
      • Yeah I always try to melee whenever a teammate is close by but I'll open fire if they're getting swarmed ... : yosemiteclimber
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  I like playing on hard difficulty levels and I played with my brother and he kept saying "dude this is to... : Phunk
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    Yeah, there is no losing with this game. : brickmatt
    • agreed. we must have played the 2 levels in the demo like 200 times, and i think we actually finished it ... : barichnikov
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    The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: ... : Nation
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      So apt. Whatever happened to our politicians and statesmen being intellectuals? : zen2k
      • ^^ (rhetorical question, not lookin to stink up the thread with politics) : zen2k
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  There are basically two types of people in the world. Those who love Left4Dead and people who play single : Gonzo
  • sing it sistah!!! : moneyshot
• Speaking of playing it, is there a separate steam group set up for it? if so can i get an invite? http:/... : DonarUDL
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  QUESTION!: Anyone notice when you are a hunter and then your screen goes all crazy colors? Whats the caus... : Iwannaacura
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    Hunters get blinded by the flashlights. If they shine the light in your face, your vision goes screwy. : DHAvatar
    • ahh that could be it then! I love this game. : Iwannaacura
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  I wish they had more variety in the gameplay. The only difficult situations are tanks or witches because... : dkrulz
  • zombie swarms are not fun when a jumper and smoker are close. As for team damage best thing is to make... : Iwannaacura
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  What I really love is how amazingly bad things can go so very quickly. It's like each playthrough on Expe... : kenmis
  • The near-death moments are a blast. You get a very panicky feeling when your team is near death and the... : CRasterImage
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  alright you S.O.B.s I was stuck playing Single Player last night, so someone send me an invite into the S... : sevogajre
  • me too please :( http://steamcommunity.com/id/burningeye : burning eye
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  Am I the only one who loves VERSUS mode more than straight co-op? Why such lack of discussion about that... : kainen1
  • Haven't tried it yet. : brickmatt
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    i love vs its so fun climbing up walls and spawning behind people. Watching them backtrack and then you p... : Iwannaacura
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      It's great when everyone works together and sets up a perfect ambush, we had a few good ones last night. : yosemiteclimber
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        it was so awesome *tear* one of us would start something, and im like oh shit its my chance now! and t... : Break
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          and the amazing thing about this was that no one was using a mic i was like wtf how are we gonna do this... : Break
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            I still suck as the hunter, I've seen some of them leap and miss and perform another leap right after....... : sanchez
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              i think if u duck as you leap you dont have to wait : Iwannaacura
              • I was just holding the duck key the whole time : sanchez
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          This is the way it's done. Too often people just try to solo or DM their way as an infected. You need tea... : skinlab133
          • Yeah. And it's nice, because we all have swarms on our team. : heartsauce
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18489245#itemanchor_18489245 : yosemiteclimber
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    No, I'm in the same boat. I don't even like being survivors, and I could care less about the campain. Let... : .ka`boom.zZz.
    • Yeah, too bad deathofrats has no idea. : heartsauce
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    Havn't had a chance yet. It sounds cool, from the description. Does the game give you any indicators a... : CRasterImage
    • It doesn't... but boomers attract hordes. The more you attack successfully, I think the more hordes you g... : heartsauce
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    yeah where is the versus talk WTF : Luminair
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      wait maybe the versus players like me didnt buy it because there was no versus in the demo : Luminair
      • oh too bad your missing the best part of the game. Its so fun playing vs. : Iwannaacura
  • Yeah, I love versus. Barfing in someones face, then exploding on the person coming to help them agains... : Beady
  • YES YES YES, we played the shit out of versus last night and I enjoy it a lot more. : sanchez
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    Versus? As in Zombies Vs. Humans? : walker270
    • Yessir : CRasterImage
    • 8 players to a server, two teams of 4. One team attempts a level as human while other as zombie and then ... : sanchez
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    Yes. It is really fun. My favorite moment so far was spawning as a boomer and sneaking into the elevator ... : Ely
    • lolol i tried that but i right as my timer hit 0 it said i was too close :( : Iwannaacura
    • Yeah, I was an unspawned smoker on the elevator with the survivors. See a boomer flying down the elevator... : heartsauce
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  How overused is the word "epic"? Its so overused why its...Epic! : GodFather
  • I didn't say epic. : brickmatt
  • Epicly Epic! : CRasterImage
  • Unfortunately, Valve has designed this game to embody the word. Standing in the face of a zombie horde an... : Damodred
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  This is by far one of my favourite games (and my favourite FPS). Sewers; I jumped down into the manhol... : Smoochy666
  • I love how this game relentlessly throws "HOLY SHIT" moments at you :) : yosemiteclimber
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    Haha, crossing the street to the hospital entrance! I swear that every step I took the entrance got farth... : Damodred
    • listen to the commentary. They talked about it, suggesting that more often than not that area would be po... : Iwannaacura
• Most Co-Op fun I ever had was not in L4d, it was in my bed! Single player as well. uh.. : watcherxp
• L4D ROCKS! : Nighteyes
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  Just had to bow out of a fantastic game with Fletch_, Fushigi and one more (sorry, can't remember the nam... : -efx-
  • we just beat it! Fushigi is the only one who made it out, it was me and him and i jumped on the ramp but... : fletch_
• i had an awesome game of versus earlier with a bunch of guys. It was so goddamn fun. wish i could play mr... : Dschinghis Khan
• Storytime: it was the final map of the Harvest campaign, the lonely, corn-surrounded farmhouse in the mid... : Damodred
• HIJACK: Less talk, more L4D! http://steamcommunity.com/id/cosmicspot : prime8
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  http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197978102746 WTB invite to Shacknews Left4Dead Group! : notdeadyeti
  • ditto ==> http://steamcommunity.com/id/lotj : walker270
• I just saw a Left 4 Dead commercial on the tube. That's pretty cool that it's getting that level of adver... : Fred Garvin

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  I honestly think game sequels are a different beast than movie sequels. The game sequels actually improve... : carnivore
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    Btw, what about GTA? : carnivore
    • I dont know, I never really really got into any of the GTA games. I bought GTA4 b/c it seemed like they h... : Jackass1233
  • I totally agree. Tech for games changes so fast, just after a few years you can already do such a better ... : tcs
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  Hitman blood money. Or really every hitman sequel. : Helios150
  • This game does not receive nearly enough love. : quadeh
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  Gears 2 was better than the first. Sounds like Fable 2 was as well. RE4, RB2, GoW 2 seemed to as well. Ha... : derelict515
  • Agree with all of these. However I would say that while the whole of Gears 2 is better than Gears 1, the... : Begawkiness
• Quake 2. Team Fortress 2, Quake 3, NOLF 2 : hirez
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  Get Quake 2 off this list, stat. : ra1n
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    Quake 2 were some of my best gaming days ever. Far beyond anything quake 3 produced, and even better than... : Jackass1233
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      same here, I adore Q2. Something about the action of the rails/rockets that really did it for me. It's ... : kainen1
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        rocket arena, jailbreak, threewave, lithium, battle of the sexes stole so many hours of my life its not e... : Jackass1233
        • I'm probably being short sighted but I don't think I have seen as active a modding community as the quake... : bRAINsick
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      If you are talking about the multiplayer aspect of it -yeah, the CTF and deathmatch were definitely aweso... : dopeman
      • Single player was pretty shallow, but i mean....it wasnt that bad compared to quake 1. Also, I don't know... : Jackass1233
      • It would surprise me if I had close to 500 hours in Quake 2 and I never even beat the single player. : socksta
  • Quake 2 was my favorite of all the quake. Best CTF ever. : razlebol
  • Quake 2 created some of my best mutli-player gaming memories. Being an HPB and doing everything I could ... : bRAINsick
  • Son, children are not allowed to talk at this table. : CRasterImage
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    I agree with ra1n. quake 2 never happened. : hirez
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      but u are stupid : Jackass1233
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        says the guy who doesnt play TF2 anymore. WHO'S STOOPID NOW?!? : hirez
        • im at school:( ill be playing a little bit next week while im home tho! : Jackass1233
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      Oh wtf? Seriously? Quake 2 added DUCKING....YOU COULDN'T EVEN DUCK! The only legitimate Q1 vs. Q2 argumen : socksta
      • Q2 was slooooooooow. it felt like i was moving in molasses after Q1. : hirez
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        And it was slower and less strategic. I played a lot of team dm q2 with LGC competitively (before that... : twifosp
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          wrong, quake 1 was poorly balanced compared to quake 2. Faster does not mean better. : Jackass1233
          • I never said anything about balanced. Personally I think the imbalance was actually better. It required... : twifosp
  • Seriously. Quake 2 was like the retarded little brother of Quake. Sure, he's a special little guy, but he... : Vincent Grayson
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    Quake 2 was balanced. Whoa, who would have thought you could use a weapon other than the rocket launcher... : EvilDolemite
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      You could use the ssg, lightening gun and nail guns in quakeworld with good results. It had worse ma... : twifosp
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        coming from a non-competitive / non-clan background, I just had more fun in Quake II. : EvilDolemite
        • Nothing wrong with that... I had a lot of fun in quake2 as well. For a long time I thought the only reas... : twifosp
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    Original Quake 2, or Quake 2 after the point release(s)? Quake 2 was pretty good once they fixed the ret... : walker270
    • Well even the CTF they added was crap, it was all about the Threewave fool. : socksta
  • Quake 2 destroyed any chance I had at getting a proper education while in college. Viva la Hyperblaste... : HojuSimpson
  • No way, Quake 2 was awesome. : OmegaRed59
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  Thief 2 did. I prefer the story in 1 more, but the gameplay was...refined. : Conan
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    Oh, and System Shock 2, no question. : Conan
    • I support these posts of yours, Conan : action wombmate
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  Half-Life 2 and Diablo 2 anyone? : Xanthos
  • Didn't finish reading the post. oops. I still think HL2 was as fantastic as the first. : Xanthos
• Doom 2 : stump
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  Thief 2. That game was awesome. They screwed the pooch with 3 unfortunately. : guyver-za
  • That sounds like a good idea. : pipboy
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  only sequel i can think of that i didnt like was Call of Duty 5 : bozer
  • CoD5 is probably better than Cod3. : stump
• Duke Nukem Forever. : socksta
• Jedi Knight 2 : sigpro
• There are bojillions? Baldur's Gate 2 System Shock 2 Fallout 2 and 3 Ultima 7 Civilization 4 Warl... : Vantage
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  Hexen (from Heretic), Blood 2, Heavy Gears 2, System Shock 2, Call Of Duty 2, Diablo 2, Bard's Tale 2, Ul... : AxeMan808
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    Street Fighter 2. You know, speaking of, what was Street Fighter 1? How come nobody ever talks about it? ... : Jackass1233
    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_(video_game) haha no idea, I feel like i might have played... : Jackass1233
    • SF1 came out with two big pressure sensitive pads, one for Punch, one for Kick. The Light/Med/Strong was ... : AxeMan808
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  HL2 is a classic that stands up next to the original game. Plus I think it lived up to the hype. You can... : itsjames
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    I literally just said it was my personal experience. And while you may think it was amazing, that is also... : Jackass1233
    • I just really like hl2 ok? :( : itsjames
• red alert (kind of a sequel to command and conquer in a way) : kn1fe
• Fallout 3. It's different in many ways but I think it will hold up as a classic. I've already put more ti... : Psigun
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  Monkey Island 2 (surpasses MI1 in every way for me) several Ultimas Thief 2 / Shock 2 (T2 kept the bar,... : speon
  • forgot Baldur's Gate 2...much better than the original : speon
• HL2 - yeah, no explanation needed Baldur's Gate 2 - bigger, more populated, better quests, party bante... : lightly inclined
• HL2 definitely didn't have the same impact. I don't even like thinking about HL1 when playing HL2 becaus... : dilutedq
• CIV 4 : I7 SilverFox

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  I love 64K and 4K demo competitions. It's great to see what people can do with such a small amount of me... : guido anchovy
  • opps.. "Into the Pink" is a regular demo, not 64kb. Got that mixed up when I was looking at 64k demos... : Shadowdane
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    Are they memory restrictions or executable size restrictions? : OverloadUT
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      executable size restrictions : Shadowdane
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        Even so, it's great to see what they can compress down to 64 or 4k : guido anchovy
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          or 128 byte O_o : http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fparties%2F2008%2Foutline08%2F128b%2F128chess.zip&... : Shadowdane
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            Holy crap! Downloading at work. : guido anchovy
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              Holy crap, can't run it at work because I don't have an atari ST emulator. :( : guido anchovy
              • yah was trying to figure out what a PRG file was... hehe : Shadowdane
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                http://leonard.oxg.free.fr/SainT/SainT211.rar -- SainT v2.11 Atari ST emulator :) : Shadowdane
                • hmm... it crashes the emulator! :P : Shadowdane
          • granted I have no clue how to run a "prg" file?! : Shadowdane
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          Yeah it's pretty awesome. I saw a demo one year that was a first person shooter with doom 3 caliber graph... : OverloadUT
          • I remember this demo. I have it saved on my PC at home somewhere. It was awesome. : guido anchovy
          • It's called ".kkrieger", made by Farbrausch. : stuka
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  Why's the 64k demo 42meg? : pieman
  • cause its not... made a mistake when copy/pasting: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18487547 : Shadowdane
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    Funny name in this thread, as one of my favorite demos from a looong time ago (1996) was called "paimen" ... : re-verse
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      runs fine in Dosbox! :) VIsta64 wouldn't run it as its 16-bit : Shadowdane
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        Don't be so sure you're seeing it right - last time I tried running it in dosbox, the music was missing a... : re-verse
        • Oh, found a vid of it. http://www.demoscene.tv/prod.php?id_prod=7786 : re-verse
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  Here is the 64 Kbyte Demo I meant to have in the root post. :( Brain Control [Phantom Eye Syndrome] : : Shadowdane
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    I think Chaos Theory is possibly my favorite 64K intro ever: http://scene.org/file.php?id=312783 : stuka
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      wow, that was a good rush : nrgXs
      • That pink noise and music in general hurts my ears. : heartsauce
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    AVG sees this .exe as a virus : nrgXs
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      you'll get a lot of false positives with demos. a lot of executable unpacking routines look fishy or sha... : GloriousCow
      • yah stuff from scene.org is clean... you have a better chance of getting a trojan or virus from a bitto... : Shadowdane
• love the old 'scene' days... Acid & Ice art packs, Future Crew demos, and all. I had my own art group in... : dignan
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  wait... why is a 4Kb demo 3.7Mb? : Korban
  • cause he included 5 different executables for each resolution. He also included safe executables that ... : Shadowdane
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  Awesome. You should also check out: Receptor by Mentor (INSANE 4K demo) http://www.scene.org/file.php? : stuka
  • wow that 4K demo was crazy... i like the music in it too! : Shadowdane
  • wow... i was impressed after the first scene in that 4k... and then there were six more... holy shit. ... : GloriousCow
  • These are great! : hashd
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  Debris from farbrausch @ breakpoint 2007 , just watched this one from last nights thread, WOW! what a gre... : dignan
  • Link: http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/parties/2007/breakpoint07/demo/fr-041_debris.zip&fileinfo Ya... : Shadowdane
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    The main dude who did it had an awesome talk at the nvscene event about building procedural tools and dem... : stuka
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      http://www.leipziger-messe.de/LeMMon/gcdc_2007.nsf/view_cfp_speaker_list/DDE5244010B8C59BC125730F004E00E5... : SlamDunk
      • Audio sucks but it's still awesome: http://demoscene.tv/page.php?id=172&lang=uk&vsmaction=view_prod&id_pr... : stuka
• I love these gonna have to check em out when I get home. : hashd
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  Are there any "behind the scenes" type things that show what goes into making a demo? : indosauros
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    A lot of it is ridiculous small code generation and procedural generation of sound and textures : Yanks
    • It sounds awesome and I wish I could see it in progress :-\ : indosauros
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    Alcohol, hanging around in a smelly room with nerds at computers, dorky jokes. (I wrote the music for ... : Zero|DPX
    • ^^^^^^ also add more alcohol. : stuka
  • Not behind the scenes but this gives you a really good idea of how these guys think http://www.shacknews... : stuka
• I went to the site, there are A LOT of demos there. I was especially looking for demos that have nice vi... : dael
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  avira gave me a trojan warning on the 4k one : anthonybean
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    ignore it. there's no room for a trojan :D : GloriousCow
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      what if it's a procedurally generated virus : indosauros
      • if they can do music and 3d graphics *and* infect my system with a virus in 4k i think they've earned it : GloriousCow
• A couple of my all time favorites here. Kasparov http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/demos/groups/eliteg... : hashd
• Into the Pink was gorgeous. And Texas was pretty awe-inspiring. These are awesome, thanks =) : famine101

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  like this ! ok really do a o [ spoiler text here ] o .. but take out the spaces in between o and [ o... : mattfl
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    hay guys am i doing this rite? : phate81
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      omg u r doin it right : DerHuhnTeufel
      • Ofmg : Kerranger
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  words : givemesnacks
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    self-fail. : givemesnacks
    • no snacks for you today : blindi0815
  • test : ShadowRam
• o [ omg spoiler! ] o without the space between the bracket and o of course : Degenerate
• GET THE DAMN GREASEMONKEY SCRIPTS! then worship ThomW : m0rfus
• ^ Giant spoiler cock and balls! ^^ : voodooraze
• ^ Giant spoiler drag racer! ^^ : grandmasterlee
• newb : disposition
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  I prefer super spoilers : OverloadUT
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    Well that didn't work at all. How about super spoilers : OverloadUT
    • lol : randomposter
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      Your doino[g o[io[t o[wo[ro[oo[no[go[, o[something l]oi]ok]oe]o t]oh]oi]os]o?]o!]o : Shadowdane
      • ahh crap.. that worked in the preview! :( : Shadowdane
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        hmm my syntax was fine... too many nested shacktags I guess? Your doio[no[g o[io[t o[wo[ro[oo[no[go : Shadowdane
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          lol it parses shacktags inside code tags... damn it! haha : Shadowdane
          • This is just a thread of fail. ;D : DM7
          • You broke the shack :( : yosemiteclimber
      • You can only nest 9 deep. : OverloadUT
      • Extreme Spoiler fail :D! : Malku
      • my eyes hurt : I7 SilverFox
      • PANCAKES! PANCAKES PANCAKES! : skinlab133
• i see : senor135
• http://rock_elf.shackspace.com/tags/index.html : Nixx2004
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  Am I the first to fuck this up in the whole thread??? : johnwissinger
  • nope. sweet : johnwissinger
• test : Rodeoclash
• test : cellx25
• wow! : dasampla
• penis Wow! : Malku
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  AERIS!!!!! : shyguy74
  • godamnit! : japoneez
• oh god what happens if you combine spoiler tags and that crazy backwards shit. could you spoiler your own... : sammyl