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• Oh god, yes. At 10:30 AM EST I will be playing. : silentw
• I shall be in there like the proverbial swimwear : aux7
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  Add me on steam if you want to join our game. So far, Chepito is joining me as the human. Need to more 2 ... : razlebol
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    I don't think there's vs mode in the demo (so no zombies), but I'll join you for survival. : DHAvatar
    • Cool. Only 1 missing then. : razlebol
• Join the shacknews group for the party! http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shacknews : razlebol
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  ...I thought it was tomorrow? : zerog83
  • It's in 15 minutes. : razlebol
• im on bus to work :(x5 super fail we can kill zombies tonight!! : Iwannaacura
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  I'll join you. : theBorgie
  • My group is full but if you join the shacknews chat, you should find someone else to play with. : razlebol
• oh boy i can't wait to watch you play while i sit here at work.... working. : .ka`boom.zZz.
• Here's the link to the broadcast. http://www.xfire.com/live_video/razlebol/ I'll broadcast at medium ... : razlebol
• I plan on playing in a few minutes. I'm in the Shacknews Steam chat. : moogle
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  5 minutes left!!!!!!! : razlebol
  • ah man, i'm stuck at work, shut up, SHUT UP!!! ARRRGGGG!! : [eluder]
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  It's out! :) : -sk-
  • restarting steam! : razlebol
  • wow the shack chat room cleared fast : Mr.Finkster
• arhghghghgf at work :( : Unleashed
• Decrypt faster damn you. : arsonide
• DEMO CANCELLED wtf!??!?!?! : niceguynick
• I wonder if I could get it to work over logmein.com ?? :( Stuck at work and it's just sitting there ready : mattfl
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  validating... : re4ctor
  • updating..wtf? : re4ctor
• haha freakin steam froze on my ass : Break
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  Updating? wtf was the point in the preload then eh? : Mr.Finkster
  • They updated the demo :P : -sk-
• get a job you fucking hippies! I'm jealous :( : jingletard
• 47 seconds left http://www.xfire.com/live_video/razlebol/ : razlebol
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  validating 96% done! : ysbreker
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    updating: 6% done at 350KB/sec : ysbreker
    • ugh, now I need to update the steam client, hurry up already :( : ysbreker
• Is this only for preorders? wtf is this trend of demos and betas for preordering. Demo = before I buy : wasylm
• Please invite me into a LBP game sometime. :( : Lone Swordsman
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  Broadcasting wont work with this game yet. Also... lots of connections issues. : razlebol
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    you mean broadcasting doesnt work with an unreleased game? UNACCEPTABLE : .ka`boom.zZz.
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      You make it looked like if I'm pissed about it. : razlebol
      • nah just being a usual smartass :) : .ka`boom.zZz.
• Well the demo is a huge dissapointment. Can't even get a game going with friends. Played a public game an... : razlebol

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  kill a woman lay 15+ frag mines on top of each other and get a baddie to step on them. they shoot up into... : mega man
  • OMG SO TRYING THIS! : flagg209
• Super sledge on innocent civilians. : Vincent Grayson
• Snipe bitches in the head. : lolbotomy
• Luring enemies and then making cars explode, especially a good chain reaction. : Sailor of Fortune
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c1ODxyShKk : Marauder IIC
  • omg! did not know about this! kinda like with the poison apples in Oblivion. : Ziz
• Ripper, please! : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Going through an entire building with the hunter's rifle, sneaking around, taking out the bad guys one by... : Juno
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  Collecting up all the pieces of someone's exploded head and putting them in a container and then knocking... : aeg1x
  • love this game : Juno
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    Damn, I just realized you can pick up stuff and throw it around, I haven't ever used it since that baby t... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      What the hell do you throw around in the baby tutorial? : Reeves
      • I ran around with my teddy bear :D : Juno
      • You pick something out of a box or something and put it on the floor. It was a book or a teddy or somethi... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I'd normally answer "killing children" but Fallout 3 does not allow you to do this :( : sanchez
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    Surprised there's no mod yet for the PC version. : pyide
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      There are no proper modding tools released for FO3 yet and there is no confirmation yet there will be. So... : ramshot
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        Developed? They already have them, those are what they created the game with! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          As a (former) game developer I can tell you that in-house tools are generally quite different from the st... : gooblerampling
          • I think id's tools are what they use overall, especially since they are built into the game engine. : CrustaR
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          Well yes, and no. They have the tools, but to make them usable for the "common person" requires additiona... : ramshot
          • Hmmm true. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    Wait, what happens when you shoot a kid in Fallout 3 then? : CrustaR
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      they don't take damage, and they just run away : ShadowRam
      • Oh, that's weak sauce. : CrustaR
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  Shooting Feral Ghouls :D They are fun because they are zombies. : Normality
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    First time I saw one it scared me because they run so quick. At least they go down easily. : sanchez
    • their pitter patter footsteps are creepy lol. : chilln
  • They are not zombies because they are not (un)dead. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • oh yah? do you eat the human flesh that you loot off of them as well? it's yummy. : arcane_
  • I flamer-toast every one of these guys, it's SO satisfying. : Majuju
• I just like to play. Everything else just happens whilst doing so. : skankcore
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  i think ive found a new favorite thing to do... using the mezzer on people and then convincing them to gi : -=kodiak=-
  • No shit, I just found Paradise Falls and I am loving these missions. I'm glad I finally got that piece of... : Big Luke
  • I kept the mezzer but shot that place up. Fuck those guys. : ieGod
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  So far it seems to be exploring rather than completing the main story line. I keep meaning to get back to... : zakazi
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    but while I'm in there, sneak attack headshots, being a slick talker are both really fun. : zakazi
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      It's like we are the same person. : ieGod
      • Also: stealing, pickpocketing and lockpicking. I robbed that pimp/drunk guy Dyke (or Dane? I dunno) blind : ieGod
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  can you get sneak attacks with explosives? When I crouch and go into vats, I see my dude stand up to thro... : Supine
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18386509#itemanchor_18386509 : jasoncrowley
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      I know about planting grenades on people, but my question is if they could be lobbed for criticals. I thi... : Supine
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        Oh. I would have to agree, sneak crits seem plausible. : jasoncrowley
        • /w grenades specifically, I mean. : jasoncrowley
      • yeah i've had it happen. my explosives is terrible, like 15 or something, and i took out 4 raiders with a... : nem00
  • haha yeah you can sneak grenades into their inventory, which then are primed and go off a few seconds lat... : Anti_dentite
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  So I'm in Little Lamplight. I need to get through the back gate, there are two levers... I can't use eith : .ka`boom.zZz.
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    I need to revisit that place and see if I can plant wall to wall mines up in those bitches. : jasoncrowley
    • can i use a mine to blow open the gate? lols : .ka`boom.zZz.
• I picked up Lincolns repeater last night. taking down super mutants with one headshot is awesome. : re-verse

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  Also grenades make short work of them. At about 20-30 feet I get about a 60-70% change to hit, and if I ... : EvilDolemite
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    i have horrible luck with grenades, i seem to always get 0% chance to hit a lot. : arcane_
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      Whats yours explosives skill? As long as I'm in a range where I don't feel throwing a grenade would actua... : braaains
      • i'm not sure what it is right now, as i'm stuck at work. but i know i haven't concentrated on it... it's ... : arcane_
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  just had to fight off my first group of Talon Company Mercs tonight. That was pretty fun, didn't realize... : aethyr
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    I've had some epic fights with them on overpasses. What skill affects sniper rifle? I am horrible with ... : EvilDolemite
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      Small guns. : daedraug
      • +AGI is the small guns SPECIAL : Juno
    • Commando & Sniper perks? : Skoal^Fyfan
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      The sniper rifle in this game is poo. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        I found it worked better using just the scope that using VATS by a LONG shot. sneak attack + sniper bulle... : Juno
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          The time I need it is when the enemy is high up in a building or a bridge and they always start shooting ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • You could always run away! : Juno
          • How are you, as an fan of old fallout games, liking this game Mad Brahmin Disease? : Sebastian-TEC
          • I find the laser rifle or more specifically, the waser wifle works great in that situation. You can get o... : malevolence
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    Those guys will attack you with bad karma too. I want to go find the guys putting contracts on my head :(... : daedraug
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      If you really want to know, it is Tenpenny who is sending them after you. You can find him near the RobCo : Sebastian-TEC
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        Waait, Tenpenny is the guy who will buy ears from bad guys? : daedraug
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          I don't know... I haven't gotten that perk yet. He is the one that is sending hits out on you. : Sebastian-TEC
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            Well he's been dead for a while :) : daedraug
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              what about Burke? : Sebastian-TEC
              • That little devil got away, I used the Black Widow perk on him and haven't seen him since :( : daedraug
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          no, the guy that buys ears off of you is at the scrapyard, easiest way to get to the office is to fast tr : -=kodiak=-
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            That's the evil employer though, I want to kill the good guy. : daedraug
            • you get fingers for killing badguys, not ears you cash them in at the Regulator HQ ESE of Minefield, West : nem00
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    also, I just hit level 7, what's a good perk to take? I currently have Swift Learner (1), Gun Nut (1), C... : aethyr
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      any future perk recommendations would be good as well :D : aethyr
      • I took a bunch of the "intense training" perks early on (the ones that give you more points on your SPECI... : thetangent
      • Up your Intelligence with intense training. You will get more skill points every level there after. : Sebastian-TEC
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  I just found a crashed alien spaceship!!! :D :D Love this shit in the Fallout games (I really do wish ... : thetangent
  • hah awesome. i need to go back and play 1 & 2. : arcane_
  • Yeah, I found the spaceship to. I got a really nostalgic feeling from it. I was hoping for some sort of c... : Sebastian-TEC
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  God damn I love this game. Fallout 3 has fully restored my faith in the gaming culture and made me want t : Bean
  • When I play, I feel like I'm back in 1998 or some shit playing an epic PC game. That about sums up why I... : EvilDolemite
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    It's amazing. They didn't copy the feeling of the originals, that would have been impressive enough. Fall : daedraug
    • This is how I feel as well. Sometimes I think to myself "where is this thing/person" and I see the old Fa... : Sebastian-TEC
  • yah i couldn't agree more. i am having a lot of fun playing it. it's been awhile since i've played this g... : arcane_
  • I talked about it at work for two days and now everyone knows I'm a nerd :( I did find out I somehow mis... : spyrext
• I've actually had a few hardlocks playing it on my 360 =| : boredguy
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  no auto save? : Mondo
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    Well yeah, but before the major assault. : EvilDolemite
    • quicksave my man, quicksave : Mondo
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  I feel like this game crashes more the further i get into it... : braaains
  • Also, this is the first game I've ever played where I'm already anxious to start my second play through. : braaains
  • do you have codec packs installed? That seems to be causing most of the problems : Mondo
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  I never visited GNR because I went to Rivet City on my own so it bypassed that area for the main quest. ... : sanchez
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    yah go there, you get to meet the infamous three dawg! also you get a quest from him that opens up new te... : arcane_
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      You can't explore that area without doing the quest? : Reeves
      • sure, but i'm just saying he tells you to go out the back door, etc to get to these areas. which is a fai... : arcane_
    • I didn't even know who he was when I met him since I never listen to the radio. I started to after that t... : ieGod
• I'm having fun (2nd time through) playing as Just Some Guy. I'm running around in my pajamas, because I g... : Juno
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  This seems to be the only Fallout 3 thread tonight, so I'll ask here. I just got to The Citadel offici... : ]aratex[
  • If you'll have more fun, then do it! Really, this game is a blast however you do it, but it really is bes : Juno
  • no. i just beat the game about an hour ago and i was really surprised when it ended but at the same time : mega man
  • Either way, but, you are getting pretty close to the end. : Sebastian-TEC
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  Who else has gotten the Medical Power Armor? : Sebastian-TEC
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    It's so hilariously awesome :) : daedraug
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      "LETS KICK SOME ASS!" : Sebastian-TEC
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        I'm worried I'll have a Med-X addiction soon :/ : daedraug
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          Buy 'My First Laboratory' for you home. You will never have never have an addiction problem again. : Sebastian-TEC
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            yep, i just purchased that for my place... it's totally f'n awesome... also got a work bench and a jukebo... : -=kodiak=-
            • all of the themes are crap. fortunately, the love machine theme or whatever it's called comes with a stat : Supine
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  my wife only lets me play after her game crashes. : entropy
  • She is a keeper. : Sebastian-TEC
  • yesterday was the first time ever that my boyfriend said i couldn't play cuz i wasn't paying enough atten... : arcane_
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  Main quest question: So once you get access into the Citadel with Dr. Li then you're on the way to comple : sanchez
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    You've got a ways to go, but that's a good time to go do other things, as then you've got access to all t : Juno
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      Ah, I've spent a lot of time doing other things, I'm up to level 17 already....is that high for being at ... : sanchez
      • Nah, I was about at that same point, and I only did a couple more side things before finishing up. : Juno
      • Hm, I better go start doing everything else then, I've just been sticking to the story. : .ka`boom.zZz.
• I had 3 crashes in 9 hours on the PC, very annoying : gebz
• No crashes here. Then again my case sounds like a dustbuster so maybe I've paid for it in eardrum cu... : jasoncrowley
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  EvilD, Fallout 3 bluescreened my system once. Now THAT'S unnerving. : CrustaR
  • I also had this happen to me once : ShadowRam
• The game has never crashed for me. In a world full of SLi, I consider that to be pretty impressive. : .ka`boom.zZz.

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  Damn and I was just getting to learning the new things in 3... : boarder2
  • 4.0 doesn't add nearly as much new syntax as 3.0. Dynamic is probably the biggest feature but it isn't so... : derelict515
• GOBAMA! PALIN! : derelict515
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  Am I stupid for sticking to basic language functionality because of a vague sense that things will be mor... : Ovate
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    http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Jul-26-1.html : derelict515
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      plus if you're going to modern language features to maintain cross compatibility you might as well go bac... : derelict515
      • *going to avoid : derelict515
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        Hey screw you buddy. But seriously, where the hell have I been. Parallel for? Lambda expressions?? ... : Ovate
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          The parallel stuff is just a library (Parallel Extensions to the .NET Framework) and works with any .NET ... : derelict515
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            Be super careful with linq to SQL though. It can create some INSANE queries. Make sure if you use it to p... : boarder2
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              it should do some optimizations and caching itself although I don't have much experience with LINQ to SQL... : derelict515
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                Sometimes it's good. Other times it can generate some batshit insane queries. I haven't used it much at a... : boarder2
                • yeah, makes sense, I'm sure if you're doing any heavy lifting in the DB with LINQ or otherwise you better... : derelict515
                • do you happen to have a link from where MS has said this? : SlingBlaze
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            Okay, I take back one thing about my comment: Dynmaics for interop is a blessing. : batkiwi
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              well that's what is was designed for ;p COM interop, Office programming, language interop with Python, Ru... : derelict515
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                Not if you look at demos on the web... people are already saying that you should start writing MOST thing... : batkiwi
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                  If the argument is that foolish people do foolish things even with good tools and therefore you shouldn't... : derelict515
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                    Possibly I've been programming professionally for too long in companies where you can't always pick your ... : batkiwi
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                      I'm not sure what you're arguing. There are dumb people and therefore we shouldn't advance the technology... : derelict515
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                        I don't see them as advances is the point... I see them as pandering to people too lazy to invest in up ... : batkiwi
                        • You don't see the ability to mesh static and dynamic code as an advancement? Just something for the lazy?... : derelict515
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          Lambda expressions are so amazingly awesome. : nomaad
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            until you start using Ruby and .NET's lambdas look woeful. IronRuby for the win i suppose but what's the ... : filthysock
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              its very much in progress, perf is better than native ruby I'm pretty sure. : derelict515
              • here's the latest source http://rubyforge.org/projects/ironruby : derelict515
              • native ruby on windows fucking sucks :( : filthysock
              • actually I'm confusing the perf with IronPython : derelict515
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              also I'm curious what you like about Ruby's lambdas over .NET. I'm still digging into Ruby : derelict515
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                well, its a bit messy actually, there are blocks, lambdas and procs. Using block parameters is awesom... : filthysock
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                  you don't have any examples off hand to illustrate why they're nicer than what you can do in C#? ;p I'm p... : derelict515
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                    For example, in Ruby you can write (I'm making up the syntax here, cba to check): i = 0 wombats.each ... : jcupitt
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                      You can have the lambda return a value describing a subset of valid actions (e.g. "break", or whatever el... : uncleanmonkey
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                        Except that is exactly equivalent, but with terrible, hard-to-read syntax and with error-prone boilerplat... : jcupitt
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                          No it's not exactly equivalent, what if you add a "break" to a block which is executed somewhere where a ... : uncleanmonkey
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                            No, that can't happen, that's not how Ruby's syntax works. Blocks can have breaks inside, lambdas can't. ... : jcupitt
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                              So it's a special case then, just breaks nothing else? If so how is "return Break" (Break being an enum v... : uncleanmonkey
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                                No, you can have "return" and stuff like that too, you can also assign to enclosing variables (which is a... : jcupitt
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                                  So it's minimal syntactic sugar. You can write "break" rather than "return break". How is this anything b... : uncleanmonkey
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                                    There's "next", "redo", ""retry", "continue", "return" and probably a bunch of others as well for exam... : jcupitt
                                    • I with we could indent code scraps properly on the shack :( sigh : jcupitt
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                                      So how do you return a value from the lambda to the caller without causing the parent to return? Serio... : uncleanmonkey
                                      • The value of the block is the value of the last statement. It's not confusing, to me anyway. It gets y... : jcupitt
                            • Looking up the syntax I actually see that ruby does nothing special, break just returns null. How the hel... : uncleanmonkey
                        • And this isn't a high level vs low level thing. I'm not against abstraction, I'm against horrible hacks t... : uncleanmonkey
                • Ruby blocks look like a poorly thought out version of Smalltalk blocks. : timmie
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              everything about Ruby seems so ad-hoc and undocumented. I guess a lot of people go for that, exploring th... : nomaad
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                i am a very experienced .net guy, been there since beta of version1. I am now a frustrated .net programme... : filthysock
                • Have you tried VB9? I'm not a web guy but having actual language support for XML literals seem pretty sw... : uncleanmonkey
        • Have you tried any of the parallel computing stuff in Matlab Ovate? I've been working with Mathworks on ... : boofy
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  It is all horrible stuff. Consider the fact that default/optional values are hardcoded into THE CALLERS ... : batkiwi
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    So we should keep every language super simple so bad developers don't screw things up at the expense of p... : derelict515
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      You are aware that the IEnumerable extensions are seperate from the added LINQ grammar, and can be used w... : batkiwi
      • well then don't use the new syntax! it's entirely up to you. Personally I much prefer the query comprehen... : derelict515
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    Isn't that what you want though? I mean when you compiled the code you agreed to the default parameter of... : uncleanmonkey
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      yeah, the other side of the coin as you mentioned if what if the library you take a dependency on changes... : derelict515
      • But that happens now with how current "optional" parameters are implemented (via overloading)... : batkiwi
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      YOUR intent was to pass in nothing, or what the library needs, though. The problem to me is that: pub... : batkiwi
      • Default parameters is not meant to be the same thing as having two overloaded methods where one of them i... : uncleanmonkey
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        again, you're arguing that because there is a way to misuse something, no matter what the possibly benefi... : derelict515
        • Actually that sounds pretty good :-) : uncleanmonkey
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        default values are a nightmare in C++ too :-( : jcupitt
        • They should be a bit better in C# since they can have an arbitrary position due to the inclusion of named... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  Optional parameters! Finally! : GreatGooglyMoogly
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    this post is why i'm sick of .NET development. We sit around like crackheads waiting for the next high, t... : filthysock
    • It beats C++ and Java where major new language features arrive every decade or so. (Especially Java wh... : nudel
    • how fast do you expect a language to change? there are already plenty of people who complain with each ne... : derelict515
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    generally having optional parameters is just bad coding. Why can't you just overload the method. : SlingBlaze
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      Because you get n! overloads (which are all just boiler-plate) rather than just 1. : uncleanmonkey
      • exactly. I have a logging library that supports a variable number of input arguments... I like that I don... : MagicWishMonkey
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    what do you mean? you can already use something like this: public void MyFunction(params strin] args){... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Have a function with 10 different arguments of different types, and you can give them all default values ... : uncleanmonkey
      • That's pretty cool, I've been doing that in AS3 for a while and I always thought it was pretty badass : MagicWishMonkey
    • Yeah I know, and it kind of sucks. Do you really want to use object[] there? Not to mention adding lots a... : GreatGooglyMoogly

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• I hope this wasn't just a fluke brought on by the Obama brand. I hope people really understand what th : MagicWishMonkey
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  aren't you Canadian : wtf242
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    he's not letting that stop him from jumping on the hate bandwagon : MoreVespeneGas
    • I see no hate in his post. : ieGod
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  Yeah, with repubs its time to turn to the future and forget these socially conservative/ baby boomer cock... : SpaecKow
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    My great hope is that the Libs will do that here.. well minus the isolationism. Turnbull as leader gives ... : aeg1x
    • I was with you Space until you mentioned isolationism. That is not what we need. The economies of the w... : trevis
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  my hope is that the republican party gets back to its roots.. small government, controlled spending, fisc... : Demius
  • More like minister of banging hot tv anchors on the down low amirite? : stuka
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  I have a feeling that the GOP will justify it as the Obama brand and I cannot say I blame them. If the De... : Evil Benius
  • Crap that was meant for MagicWishMonkey up there. : Evil Benius
  • Yea, I have a feeling that might happen, but they lost enough seats in the house and senate to hopefully ... : MagicWishMonkey
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    I agree, and they'll totally crucify Palin as well : boring gegtik
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      As they should in my opinion. : Evil Benius
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        After the initial convention bump, McCain completely tanked in the polls after picking Palin. There's rea... : dirge23
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          Yeah I agree. What I would really like to know is how he (or whoever was making the decisions for his ca... : jimmy_legs
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            I think she looked good on paper (state governor, woman, credible pro-life and reform credentials, stage ... : dirge23
            • Truly a maverick move. : jimmy_legs
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            "did they think she would really carry the campaign from Sept-Nov" Did Obama expect Biden to carry him : Nation
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              Exactly my point. It is still a vote for one Presidential candidate or the other, however as Palin was m... : jimmy_legs
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                ah, I guess I misunderstood ... there are many on here who are basically saying that picking Palin is 100... : Nation
                • No, she's not the only reason, but she is the most obvious example of the systemic problems with the camp... : Arcanum
                • The economic crisis was the nail in the coffin, Palin may have been a big factor, but the crisis broke th... : bombay
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    "the shit" thats changing is the countries demographics. hispanic and other "minority" votes skyrocketed ... : MoreVespeneGas
    • So many of the smarties in the GOP thought McCain would carry huge in the hispanic community for all of h... : rosewood
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  I hope that the democrats don't look at this as some kind of Mandate or endorsement of all tenants of the... : kevp
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    I agree. It's really a pro-Obama / anti-incumbant / anti-Republican voting turnout than it is pro-Democr... : jimmy_legs
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      Something similar happened in Quebec years back.. there was a referendum about whether they should separa... : boring gegtik
      • Haha wow. I don't think "let's do it to scare them" is a good idea when it comes to a y/n voting situati... : jimmy_legs
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    ^^^ this is actually my greatest fear. We are constantly bouncing from one extreme to the other in this c... : MagicWishMonkey
    • The Democrats aren't that different to the Republicans. Using phrases like "one extreme to the other" in ... : nudel
  • Well, there is a glimmer of hope in what Pelosi was saying yesterday, that Obama should govern from the m... : boofy
• you cannot out democrat a democrat I am sorry, what you want and are missing is a Libertarian party ..... : Nation
• The Canadian Liberals need to do the same thing. Someone in that party needs to tell them that there are ... : spiffymc
• A fucking men In an alternate universe, where I never posted on the shack and ruined every chance of h... : rosewood
• This is why I registered as independant. I didn't vote for Barack Obama because I think democrats have a... : BingusLargus
• Problem is it's paying to go for the median elector.. : melt_core
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  the civil war is allready starting within the GOP http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/06/republican-ris : stgdz
  • God if they go even more psycho conservative I will be voting Libertarian until things change. : Evil Benius
  • Paul Ryan is awesome. We need more politicians like him. : jlavrenz
• Bill Maher said the Republicans need to find their way back to their parties real values and I'd agree wi... : Fred Garvin

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  Chicago is the absolute worst location for the Olympics. Where the shit are they going to do the rowing? : pyide
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    Probably in water : haiku
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      Yeah, but where? They need flat, long, straight courses. They'd have to build breakwaters to have it anyw... : pyide
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        for rowing they would probably build a special canal, but lake Michigan would be awesome for the sailing. : moshman
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          What about all the canals running through downtown? : Lightzout
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            yeah, seems perfect to me : moshman
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              They are fairly narrow and curvy. They need 2 miles of straight, don't know if currents make a difference... : pyide
              • They'd prolly use Northwestern's facilities in Skokie, Ill, which I think is only like 20-25 mins away fr... : plunkymeadows
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    They putting the Olympic shit out in the 'burbs or something? : disposition
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      There are no lakes long enough for what they need in the suburbs, iirc. : pyide
      • They'll probably bring that to Lake Michigan. : disposition
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    http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&q=chicago&z=10&g=chicago&iwloc=addr I du... : zakk
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      yeah, rowing is real fun in 3 foot waves : moshman
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        it puts hair on your chest : zakk
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          all rowers are hairy as fuck anyway! :) : moshman
          • ^ knows his stroking : Lone Swordsman
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    I like how it's "the absolute worst" place for the Olympics and the only thing you have is rowing. Oh no ... : haiku
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      That's just the most obvious thing it lacks. Where are they going to put the Olympic Stadium & Village? I... : pyide
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        Because we're the most powerful nation on earth. : haiku
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          YES WE CAN : aeg1x
          • god bless america, and nowhere else! : mega man
      • Btw, I think it would be awesome. I'd love to see some women's volleyball and mens olympic soccer even th... : pyide
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        Not sure what the problem is. For the Beijing olympics, the sailing/rowing was held in a different city, ... : TPSReport
        • It wasn't vastly different for the Atlanta Olympics. There were events held all over the region. And wh... : riptyde
      • If London can find space, I'm sure Chicago will cope. Also, winning the Olympics did a lot to boost the c... : rock elf
      • Good thing Tokyo has a low population density. : pyrogen
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        Obviously you haven't seen what they're doing with Cabrini Green. Hundreds of black poor people being for... : not work safe
        • I don't know why I said "obviously", it's not really needed here. : not work safe
  • Even though Chicago would be the host city not all of the events have to be within a 20 minute drive of i... : boredguy
  • I bet there will be many world records broken since the athletes will be running from the gunfire. : Crimsonbeak
  • That's what they said about the World's Fair and Chicago OWNED THAT SHIT Columbian Exposition 4 LYFE B... : tashtego
  • Traffic will be so bad that no one will get their steroid injections in time : spiderfill
• Also: Chicago is probably my favorite city in the US at this point. Fuck yeah, Chicago-style hotdogs. : disposition
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  People all over the world can enjoy the non-stop road construction. >:( : JT
  • It stops, usually from 9:30am to 4:59pm. : not work safe
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  I hope Rio gets the bid. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Ditto. : Wisp!
• Are you actually sticking around? We're already thinking on where we want to go while we rent out our Met... : Deathlove
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  i had a tasty hot dog when i was in chicago. it was cool, except my feet were solid ice : wtf242
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    the pizza was terrible though : wtf242
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      everyone talks about how great chicage-style pizza is? are they wrong, wtf242? : lightly inclined
      • It's OK once in a while, but italian style is the best. There is no arguing this. Greek style is the wo... : FormerHPB
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        it's not really pizza. It's cheese casserole. 1 single piece probably has half a pound of cheese and 1000... : wtf242
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          Maybe you went to giordanos - right on the south end of chicagos sad little greektown. Chicago style pizz... : re-verse
          • yeah that's where we went : wtf242
      • It's hit and miss. When it's bad it's really bad, when it's good it's fantastic. : zakazi
• I hope yo don't get them because minnepolis and st. paul should get them in 2020 :( : snowwolf
• Actually DC is because Obama will be living there now, he wanted to get the fuck out of Chicago. : gmd
• I want to visit chicago : jayares

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  Why not just buy a PS3 and use it as a mediacentre? I stream all my vids, music and photo's on my PS3 usi... : Bamii
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    Might be picky but I don't want to stream anything to it.. I just want to store media on the media centre... : cause&effect
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      Sure, press triangle and you'll see a 'copy' option. You can copy whole folders too. : jcupitt
      • Oh, and mine's quiet as a mouse (uk 40gb one), but I've heard people complain. I think it depends partly ... : jcupitt
      • I think you can also copy stuff to a USB HDD and then plug that into the PS3 (or 360 or PC). : nudel
  • the UI suck for looking through large amounts files :( : moshman
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    I'd be worried about: - Region-locked DVD and and region-locked Blu-Ray fucking bullshit which can fuc... : nudel
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      mkv = no go. My PS3 is quite loud too after a while. : moshman
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        Yep, the no mkvs-upport is a bit of a downer. My PS3 is very quiet though. : Bamii
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          mkv thing isn't really a problem though, because they can be transcoded in under a minute with something ... : moshman
          • I have some problems with that. Somehow mkv2mob says the video I want to transcode has bad mkv-info or so... : Bamii
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      I'd respond: - you're right, you'd need to convert DVDs to an unlocked format on another machine - yo... : jcupitt
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        Converting on the fly in the background = transcoding : nodebug
        • Yeah, I meant both on-the-fly and in-advance transcoding. They're both bad. On-the-fly is less hassle ... : nudel
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    a media center does not exist without xbmc powering it would probably be the main reason I'd have thought... : VuduChild
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      Love xbmc on the original xbox (got one in the living room) just a shame it doesn't do HD. Once i've b... : cause&effect
      • it's pretty hot actually and getting better, I just don't have much use for it. XBMC does most of what I... : moshman
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    This ^^ takes about 10 mins to set-up. : Vincenoir
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      and is not as good as a HTPC for the many reasons mentioned above. : moshman
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        tbh i dont care it works fantastic for me if your goin to be anal about it then spend extra cash. : Vincenoir
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          anal? you don't have to be a dick about it because you love your ps3 so much.. the UI is fucking awful... : moshman
          • At the end of the day the UI is your fucking opinion, and no not all files are supported but theres a shi... : Vincenoir
  • My 360 can play videos my ps3 chokes on, for some reason :/ : Beady
  • Consoles are ok, but not as versatile, and you can't record tv/video with them. : ieGod
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    won't play 720p 5.1 .mkvs :/ : connor
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      it will if you run mkv2vob on them : moshman
      • which is great if you only use OS X. : connor
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  I got one of these (after making my own in the past): http://www.glowtechnology.co.uk/product_info.php... : nudel
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    Sounds like we went pretty much the same route. Are you running the audio via your ati card? I didnt g... : nodebug
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      Also, my lcd on the antec case is awful. Cant make out anything on it from 6foot away without straining y... : nodebug
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        Ah yes, the LCD... There are a few different LCDs that you might get. My friend bought the same computer ... : nudel
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          Mine does the same. I'm using the Harmony 525 and it goes mad when I press a button related to any other ... : nodebug
          • I just use Vista Media Center (with PowerDVD to play Blu-rays, which I don't do much). I have a wirele... : nudel
    • wow, I managed to butcher that one teh moment. Winchatty doesn't like me typing fast :( : nodebug
    • I'm using the on-board audio at the moment, S/PDIF out to my amp. My amp doesn't have HDMI and my TV z... : nudel
  • That looks exactly like what I'd probably end up building.. good stuff, thanks for the advice :) : cause&effect
• I built one about 4 months ago. Still having some teething problems but I just haven't spent enough time ... : nodebug
• BTW, Vista >>>>>>>>>> XP when it comes to Media Center, especially if you're using it for UK Freeview. ... : nudel
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  Having now read the entire thread, thanks for the suggestions everyone.. it's nice to see what solutions ... : cause&effect
  • No worries, feel free to shoot me a pm when you start putting it together. I had loads of issues with cod... : nodebug