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  question - does anyone know where I can find a workshop? I need to build the rock-it launcher thingy. : MagicWishMonkey
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    Did you buy the plans from Moira? There's a workbench in her store. : dirge23
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      Yea. How can you use it? I tried looking at it but I couldn't see any way to use it. : MagicWishMonkey
      • I haven't actually done it because I haven't got any plans yet. : dirge23
      • Just look at the bench and hit use. There's workbenches all over the game, just keep your eye out for the... : lplasmatron
  • in Megaton in that chick's general store place can't remember the exact name : indosauros
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    I thought the Craterside Supply place has one. And you can buy one for your house I think : CapnChaos
    • There is one in Megaton, at craterside supply that you can use. on another note, how do you mark your ... : sreyes22
  • awful spoiler tag use =( : DinK
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  Will I'd run on a MBP with bootcamp well? C2D 2.14 with 3gb memory and a ATI X1600 pro 256mb. : g0nk
  • *it. : g0nk
  • probably not maxed out but I'm certain it would run well enough to play : pukerat
  • Mine is slightly worse but Oblivion didn't run nearly well enough for me to get FO3 for it : derelict515
• I played for about an hour, then it froze and when I tried to start it up again steam told me it wasn't i... : Thisispol
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  What Perks have you guys taken so far? : Totenjaeger
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    Swift Learner x 2! The only good level 2/3 perk aside from that is +1 stat. : Majuju
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      I did too, I'm just afraid I'm going to run out of levels quick. : Totenjaeger
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        Being uber is good, though. I actually spent time at work yesterday creating hypothetical character buil... : Majuju
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          Do you know what the max level is? : Totenjaeger
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            60, and then you have to buy the expansion : indosauros
            • what? It's like 20 afaik : cdbeckman
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              Is that a WoW joke, or are you being serious? : Totenjaeger
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                WoW joke : megarust32
                • should have known not to make a game joke on a politics website : indosauros
          • 20 is the level cap : silent prophet
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            Supposedly 20, but I am skeptical. I want to hope there's a chance that you can advance past that, and j... : Majuju
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              You can't. : lplasmatron
              • Will be a mod shortly I bet : indosauros
            • What the fuck. Why is there a level cap? : mittense
    • Seriously? But the level cap is 20. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • I passed on swift learner because I assume you'll cap out anyway. Initially went with the ones that b... : judge
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    I'm only at level 2. I went with quick learner (I think that's what it's called). I plan on getting educa... : ieGod
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      You can get swift learner up to 3 times I think : indosauros
      • That is correct. : Totenjaeger
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    Swift Learner SPECIAL boost Educated Gun Nut Does anyone know if the game autolevels the difficult... : trove
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      it doesn't : pukerat
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        it sorta does (it 'locks' certain areas into leveled difficulty, so if you go back later you will have an... : Majuju
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          Do you have a link that explains this well? I've seen one of the devs say everything isn't completely un... : DinK
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            http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/desslock-explains-level-scaling-on-fallout-3/ : Majuju
            • Kind of what I figured, but at the same time that's months old and not from Bethesda. I wonder if they c... : DinK
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        giant mutated dude with a minigun in the capitol area says.... no. : cdbeckman
        • haha lmao : .ka`boom.zZz.
    • These are the same first 4 perks I chose. : skankcore
  • 2 levels of gun nut, bloody mess, educated, gunslinger, intense training, scoundrel : megarust32
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    3x intense training, just because the others didn't look that appealing. : cdbeckman
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      +10% xp gained is ALWAYS appealing. : Majuju
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        I think with the level cap, if you're pretty thorough, this perk will come back to bite you. I'd rather ... : Finestaut
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          Thing is, depending on build, there's a LOT of opportunities for +1 SPECIAL. You get MAD PERKS. : Majuju
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            What do you mean, 'MAD PERKS'? : Totenjaeger
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              Perk Rate 1 means severe potential for awesomeness. : Majuju
              • That is, when you get a perk every level, and sometimes there aren't a lot of really good perks at certai... : Majuju
            • In the previous games, you got 1 perk every 3 levels (every 4 levels if you took a specific trait). Th... : Finestaut
          • I'm using the +1 SPECIAL to make up for a lack of a Gifted trait, so I'm probably going to use that all u... : Finestaut
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    If you're playing as a male character, does the Black Widow Perk swap out with something like "Ladykiller... : Dynotaku
    • Yes, there is a Lady Killer perk. : dirge23
  • Gun Nut x1, the 10% experience bonus x3, bloody mess, and the +3 skill points per level one. : mittense
  • Swift Learner x3 and Child at Heart : AgentPothead
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    Ladykiller, Swift Learner so far. Ladykiller has come in handy once. : zakazi
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      I seem to use Ladykiller a lot. I have women falling all over me to give me their computer passwords :P : CapnChaos
      • this is awesome to hear. : zakazi
  • I definitely took a few gun nut, educated (because in the long run, that's like 48 extra skill points), b... : Vincent Grayson
  • I went with Swift Learner and Gun Nut. Yeah I'm only level 2 so far. : deject
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  I didn't get much time with it yesterday, just got out of the vault. I like what I see so far. I do h... : avatar_58
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    IIRC, it's a bug the engine has with max Frames to render ahead being set at more than 0. : shirif
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      Really? I never had this issue with max frames at 2 in Oblivion. Just this game. Aren't they both gamebry... : avatar_58
      • yeah they use the same engine. I had this problem with Oblivion, I assumed it would apply to it as well. : shirif
    • I thought that was a general input lag thing though. I think he's talking just about walking, and I desc... : DinK
    • So if I set the nvidia control panel to 0 just for fallout.exe, it'll fix this? I thought it was some kin... : skankcore
  • Haven't had that problem myself. My only one came when I pressed the F1 button and all hell broke loose. : Totenjaeger
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    Also is steam working with Fallout 3 for anyone else? The launcher seem to fuck it up, saying "now playin... : avatar_58
    • The overlay does not work for me. : dirge23
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      i didnt get it on steam, but if you add the fallout3.exe and not the launcher exe to steam it works fine. : feek
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        actually i am having some occasional weird graphics issues, but im not sure if it's steam or not. : feek
        • Can you steam guys just run fallout3.exe? Is that file openly sitting in the game folder? I think on ... : DinK
      • Then that seals it - it's just an oversight because of the launcher. They'll probably just disable it in ... : avatar_58
    • I got it through steam and it works good except for random CTD but I quicksave a lot. I'm actually kind o... : AgentPothead
    • Steam seems to be working fine for me, but only 20 mins or so in. : plunkymeadows
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      Steam overlay is busted, also won't show you as being in-game. Otherwise it's working fine for me. : joesnizzle
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        Well thats what I mean. Given that I chose steam over retail I kind of want the added bonuses steam offer... : avatar_58
        • Agreed : joesnizzle
    • It is working perfectly fine for me. I even responded to some messages from K1Bond007 while playing. : deject
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    I noticed that and I think I can reproduce it. I seem to remember that with my hand off the mouse my guy... : DinK
    • I just fired up the game and tried it, it works. If I'm moving my mouse when I stop walking my guy seems... : DinK
  • Yes, I just thought it was how they set up the animations :( : hirosushima
• I'm in love. : hoov1185
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  I beat it with the "good" ending last night. I've had the game for a few days. The ending battle was ep... : jingletard
  • Oh, and I hope I didn't spoil that for anyone. You do fight in the game towards the end! : jingletard
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  How did you guys get out of Vaul 101? I pretty much just blasted my way through, bopped a few jerks in t : pukerat
  • I ran up behind the Overseer and bashed him in the back of his skull with my bat. Killed pretty much ever... : hoov1185
  • LOL same. But not before I had put on my Tunnel Snakes jacket w/ riot helmet. I looked like a total jagof... : royalally
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    I left the Overseer. But I killed the guards. Also, I saved that asshat's drunk mom. : Totenjaeger
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      I killed the ass hat and then rescued his mom : Horn
      • Same here, did not even blink or think twice about that decision. : myfasha
    • lol i totally failed at saving the mom : chuckiesmals
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    I shot one guard but otherwise used my bat and snuck out. Didn't kill the overseer like you crazy fuckers : cdbeckman
    • That sucks that you didn't dude. An extra 10 to Medicine is sweet. : Totenjaeger
    • I didn't kill Overseer either. Amata (the chick) let me hack into his office term for the secret tunnel w... : Skoal^Fyfan
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    Oh man funny story: So Bitch Boy Butch's mom is getting attacked by the rad roaches and he's too much of ... : ieGod
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      I talked him into going back in, hoping he would get killed by the roaches. Sadly he didn't. : dirge23
      • Did you talk to him again though? He says you are his BEST FRIEND EVER and he gives you his leather jacke... : AgentPothead
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      Haha nice. But how did you get to that point without knowing how to do anything? : DinK
      • As in I didn't really understand the vat system. I killed the rad roach earlier by just zooming in, and I... : ieGod
    • When he came up to me crying to save his mom, I just told him to go fuck himself. I let his mom die and ... : stump
    • It's funny I had exactly the same experience. I decide to try to use the BB gun because I wanted to save ... : Modulus
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    when i went buy the window where the overseer and the guard were interrogating amata it pissed me off. i ... : feek
    • I love how she isn't upset that you blow the head off the guard though while she is sitting right there. : Totenjaeger
    • Same. Ungrateful wench. : ieGod
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    I didn't accept the gun when she offered it to me, she helped me to the exit and I never even saw the ove... : socksta
    • awesome! I can't wait to finish this game so I can play it again : pukerat
  • George Clooney talked his way out of it! : skitzo
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    Has anyone in Vault 101 unlocked the picture frame behind your dad's desk? : CapnChaos
    • Oooh, I missed that! : Arcanum
  • I killed all the guards that attacked me, but I left the overseer. Anyone that messes with me is going... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • yeah I killed all the guards and the overseer. That bitch just had to go. He was all experimenting on u... : deject
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  So who else killed the Overseer on the way out of the Vault? : Arcanum
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    I did! Amata cries like a punk too :D : Majuju
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      I almost killed her too but I decided against it : Horn
      • I shot her in the back once, but she told me to "cut that out", so I did : zakazi
    • She is un-killable unfortunately. : liqker
  • I totally did. Just another melon to snipe on my way to victory. At first I didn't even notice who it w : DinK
  • Almost. Shot RIGHT near his ear but missed. Didn't realize who he was at first till he spoke. : avatar_58
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    i did first, and then I quickloaded because I felt guilty :( : indosauros
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      same here. next playthrough i'm doing it on purpose : dirge23
      • Bah, for days I've been playing a light side guy in KotOR so my sneaky sniper dude in this game is going : DinK
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    I did before realizing who he was then I was like oh shit i killed the overseer and reloaded. Don't wann : megarust32
    • I knew who it was, and deliberately capped his ass. I felt a little guilty after because of Amata, but t... : Arcanum
  • Of course. : ieGod
  • Same here. HAR HAR : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Where is The Family? (No spoilers cause it's pretty early on in the game.) I've looked in and all arou... : Dynotaku
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    It's not random. It's in one of the places he tells you. : lplasmatron
    • I spent 2 hours searching last night and I didn't find them, went in each area twice and then looked all ... : Dynotaku
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    I couldn't find them either at first.. They're in the northwest Seneca station or whatever it's called, N : lakren
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      Damn, I must have missed the grate. Well thank god for fast travel anyway. Thanks. : Dynotaku
      • i spent forever looking for it too, it's not the easiest to find :P : lakren
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        I found the grate and then went the wrong way in the subway. :/ : mittense
        • yeah I just went through the damn subway and there were a bunch of traps but no Family >:[ /ragequit t... : Delaric
    • It's very easy to miss, though, happened to me too: After one train in the tunnel after the service tunne : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Has anyone played around with building weapons? I'm saving up for the rock-it launcher. It seems like a... : Horn
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    I made the custom melee weapon and it fucking owns everyone's face. I didn't even have to buy the schemat... : Caboose
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      Weird, I wasn't able to use the work bench without any schematics. : Horn
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        He means he found schematics somewhere else, he didn't buy them. : lplasmatron
        • Doh. I'm too busy thinking about fallout to read posts carefully : Horn
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  ScreenShots (Ultra Settings): (this game runs great) http://www.xembler.com/fallout3/ScreenShot1.jpg ht... : .ka`boom.zZz.
  • goddamn this game looks beautiful : liquidlies
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    im a tiny bit disappointed at how muddied textures look up close even on maxed detail :( : eeeealmo
    • I'm sure there will be some texture replacement packs for it at some point just like Oblivion. But sadly... : MuteMode
    • I don't think the screenshots really do it justice, it looks awesome in game. : valael
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    Other than a greater draw distance and heavier antialiasing, I'm not really seeing a ton of distinctions ... : mittense
    • Looks good on the 360 as well. Reading this thread is making me want the game more and more... I think I... : jeffmace3917
    • Damn I think that looks better than on my aging x1950. http://agentpothead.com/fallout3/ : AgentPothead
    • There probably aren't huge differences unless you play them side by side or something. But in a game lik... : DinK
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    What are your hw specs? : ezanga
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      e6850@3.6ghz, 8gb ram, (2x)8800gtx in sli : .ka`boom.zZz.
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        ...with guns. : .ka`boom.zZz.
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          Oh. Mine has a floppy drive . . . . : ezanga
          • http://agentpothead.com/floppy.jpg : AgentPothead
      • Hmmm, I should try overclocking my PC again : joesnizzle
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    I see in screenshot3 you have the same dithering effect I do, like on anything in the distance that stick... : DinK
    • ive noticed it too, not real sure, seems to be just this game for me. : .ka`boom.zZz.
  • My vid card is suck (7600 GT) so the graphics settings are nice and low. Makes everything look a little ... : Delaric
  • I don't have screenshots, and I don't want to start a war, but I am absolutely blown away at how good it ... : cdbeckman
  • ugh, im still on the fence pc or 360 :/ big tv/couch w/ surround sound - or 23" monitor w/ semi surround ... : mankeroo
  • Either I'm blind, but you can only wear 3 items? Glasses, helmet, and body piece? The UI kinda blows in t... : ghost in my shell
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  The only problem I had with it at first was that you can't change the picture after having started up the... : Totenjaeger
  • same here, but once you get the right tweakings, the game makes up for it : I7 SilverFox
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  So who else runs around to every car that looks to be in decent shape and checks to see if you can start ... : hirosushima
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    I saw a motorcycle I wanted. :( : mittense
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      i have a bunch of motorcycle parts, but i don't know how to use them to repair a bike :( : re4ctor
      • there are no drivable vehicles in this game are there? : Jenings
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  Where the fuck is Dogmeat? : mittense
  • +2 RAD, +5 HP! : Majuju
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    You'll see him during one of the main quests, very briefly. : jingletard
    • I found him by fluke exploring, followed by getting killed by Arkansas. : lodit
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    I believe it's a semi-random encounter. I haven't found him yet either, but it was mentioned in a previe... : Arcanum
    • Doh, I died before I could save =/ : lodit
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  Anybody know how the food sanitizer works? : AgentPothead
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    It sounds like it's automatic - drop it and it says "you longer receive the benefits of the food sanitize... : mroizo40
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      Items really fucking need an "info" pane. I'm sick of having to guess for some of this shit. : mittense
      • Yeah, that's one thing I wtf'd on was clicking items and just seeing their weight and value and nothing e... : DinK
      • ... the food sanitizer comes with a note in your quest log that explains it. : Caboose
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    It works automatically if you have it on you. : lplasmatron
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      Automatically does what though? : AgentPothead
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        Makes food not have rad? : hirosushima
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          I like my food to be as rad as possible. : mittense
          • u r dead. : hirosushima
        • It seems to keep the rad effect, but boosts the HP gain you get from it. : DrZettl
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        Sounds like it's supposed to make the healing effect stronger, rad effect less : mroizo40
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          I think it just increases the +HP and doesn't change the +RAD : dirge23
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            That's what I wanna know. All I can find searching google is forum posts going back and forth on people s... : AgentPothead
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              Iplasmatron out of all of us should know... : hirosushima
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                I think it lowers the rads, but I don't remember for sure. Just drop it, check the effects of the food, p... : lplasmatron
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                  K, is there any possibility we will start mutating if we have too much rad in our system? Or perhaps a gl... : hirosushima
                  • Yes. I have a mutation : derelict515
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                    Yes. I have a mutation : derelict515
                    • it's called double posting! : deject
                  • I have a mutation that causes higher rad to heal crippled limbs : valael
                • It looks like it increases the healing effect from any food that also radiates you. I had iguana bits and... : AgentPothead
                • So far it only increases the HP. : Rice-Rocketeer
            • Just drop the thing and look at the difference. : dirge23
          • Yeah I didn't notice the rad effect going down either. : mroizo40
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    where did you find that at? : Degenerate
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      I think Moria gave it to me for helping her do the quest involving the supermarket. : AgentPothead
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        Moira is awesome. She's the only memorable character I've found in the game so far. : mittense
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          Beatrice in the Vault was memorable, if only because of the fucked up poem she gives you for your birthda... : Arcanum
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            Hahaha, that poem. : mittense
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              Yeah, I read it and went "what the fuck, she's giving this to a ten year old for his birthday?!" : Arcanum
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                Did you check the note on the Overseer's computer? It's pretty fucked up! : Majuju
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                  You mean about the Vaults being experimental sites? Or the ones about the various people in the Vault? ... : Arcanum
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                    The ones about people in the Vault, he's got a note about Beatrice being like "she's crazy and needs MAN : Majuju
                    • Hahaha, yeah. : Arcanum
            • Just wait until the "bananas can't fly" one : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • oh god yeah. wtf was that shit? : Degenerate
          • hahaha yeah I read that and went o.0 : deject
        • guess you havent been WAAAAAY north yet at the oasis, and the talking tree.... which is i think a charact : -=kodiak=-
      • ahh, nice. thanks : Degenerate
      • ah man, now I regret lying to her about going and not finding anything, doh : zakazi
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  Oh, and, does anyone know what you have to do to wear Power Armor? It says I need a skill. :( : mittense
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    Science, maybe? I don't know. That doesn't seem to make any sense. : Caboose
    • Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a perk. I'm confused. : mittense
  • There was a piece of dialogue when I talked to some of the brotherhood that said "Can you teach me how to : megarust32
  • You need a perk. Power Armour Training, or something. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  My guy looks like this awesome 50s idiot, I took Jonas' glasses and a stupid greaser hairdo, I LOVE THIS ... : Majuju
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    I tried to make my guy look like Alfred Parker with the intent on eating every dead body I see. I think ... : Horn
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      AHahaha he was a republican and they pwn him for it. That and eating people. : royalally
      • wait wtf he's burried like 3 miles from here. : royalally
      • I'm just bummed I have to wait until level 12 to start eating people. : Horn
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  What happens if my Rads keep going up? Will I die? : kgargonmagrix79
  • As they get higher, you start taking stat penalties. Eventually, yes, you will die. Check the manual fo... : Arcanum
  • I thought being more rad was a good thing :( : Degenerate
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    once you hit a 1000 you die, you can cure it at doctors or taking rad x, probably many other ways as well... : hirosushima
    • Rad-Away, not Rad-X : Majuju
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    Bottom of page 8 in the manual has a table. You take stat hits at 200 rad increments. Up to 200 you're ... : DinK
    • Just in case you don't have the dead tree manual like me, you can download it from steam://openurl/http:/... : AgentPothead
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    Did anyone else complete Moira's Radiation Sickness quest by drinking out of the toilet in the men's room : ChibiJosh
    • Haha, that's awful. I stood in front of the toxic waste in a Metro station and then fast-traveled back. : Caboose
    • LOL I'm just waiting til I get enough rads from eating stuff : Delaric
    • hahah that was a quick quest for me i was already radiated when i took it, so she fixed me up... for the : -=kodiak=-
    • I talked my way out of that one : mroizo40
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      That's exactly what I did. I used the sink at first but the toilet was +18 a second so I switched over. : Horn
      • You must have a higher endurance than me (I've got 3) I was getting +20 rad per sip, only took about a mi... : ChibiJosh
    • Haha...I just hung out by the bomb in town for a while. : CapnChaos
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      I just stood in the puddle surrounding the bomb. : dirge23
      • ha yeah, that plus drink it too for +20 rad sickness a second. : Jenings
    • i just went to where the bomb is and drank from that puddle it sits in. I figured a puddle of muddy water... : pukerat
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      Yup I wouldn't know where else to get irradiated that close to Megaton. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        i.e. standing in a +1 RADS puddle would have taken forever. : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • Standing in a +1 RAD/S puddle WHILE drinking is faster than the toilet. : skankcore
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  Can we get a Bobblehead count? I've got 2 so far, and I'll list 'em: Inside Vault 101, in the medical ar : Supine
  • The Vault 101 one is +10 Med. : Totenjaeger
  • Good luck finding all 20. :) : lplasmatron
  • i only have 1 so far, +1 to agility... totally forgot where i found it though, was some abandoned place i : -=kodiak=-
  • Can I go back to vault 101 to get that one if I missed it? : Frozen Pixel
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    I got one out of Vault 106 I don't recall the stats on it right now : Modulus
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      where was it in there? I had to cut my trip short due to lack of ammo : Juno
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        I think it was in the Overseer's room I don't really recall since that place is a fucking maze, and the... : Modulus
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          haha I cannot stand the maps when you're inside a building or a vault! my brain hurts just thinking about... : Juno
          • Yeah the cave maps really do suck. They were more confusing than helpful. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Can you ever go back inside Vault 101? I didn't pick up the bobblehead and tried to go back in last night : skankcore
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  QUESTION!: Took me about 2.5 hours to d/l on steam last night at 9pm pst, around 6-800k most of the time,... : Iwannaacura
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    It was probably the .net 3.0 runtime update. Don't worry about it. : mroizo40
    • yea it was installing net, but then wanted x64 i just clicked ok but then the game started. Oh well. : Iwannaacura
  • I got that too but looking in the control panel revealed only tools for .net 3.0, I didn't see the actual... : avatar_58
  • I get that too, you can replicate the error by running dotnextfx3_x64.exe in the dotnetfx folder under fa... : bombay
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  So how does one see the effect of karma in this game? I mean in my general stats it shows "Good Sentinel... : DinK
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    It doesn't explicitly tell you, but people will react differently to you depending on your karma. I had ... : Arcanum
    • Yeah, I noticed that. I tried to get the one guy in megaton to join me and it told me flat out that my k... : DinK
  • On that stat page, I think the line above the character is your karma status and the line below is just a... : Caboose
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    Somehow I'm "good - paladin" now... whatever that means. I wish you had more opportunities to do shady sh... : MagicWishMonkey
    • Steal things. : sonicstorm
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    People in megaton run around and give me free caps, shells, stims and are like "I wish there were more pe... : mroizo40
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      I stumbled into a big battle between some super mutants, centaurs, and a group of bandits. It was pretty ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        In my case, the bandits beat down the mutants. The bandit leader said there was a price on my head and th... : mroizo40
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          Bandits are pretty wimpy, the mutant brutes are a lot harder to take out. : MagicWishMonkey
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            Might've been the level I went into the area, but the mutants had boards with nails in it (literally) and... : mroizo40
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              Ahh, yea the Super Mutant Brutes are pretty hard and they either have assault rifles or sledgehammers ... : MagicWishMonkey
              • Every super mutant brute I run into has a f'n chaingun, and I'm level four!! Dammit! : Juno
          • the talon mercs that take up the contract on you aren't too wimpy : reznory
      • hahaha, "Butters" : Majuju
      • I've had the same thing... it's awesome. Talon mercs are always harassing me and giving me ammo and armor... : Gonzo
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  Saving town from Fireant's mission I've gotten multiple dialog trees telling me to shoot the antlers whic : socksta
  • I dunno, I just shoot the head too. Those things soak up ammo like crazy even if you hit their dome. Th : Delaric
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    Yes, I'm using the combat shotgun and get critical hits on the Antenna and when that happens, they stop a : Caboose
    • I got a nice kill from a bottlecap mine when one of the big Warriors was after me. Ran right over it and : Delaric
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    I bait them around a corner and rush in and circle strafe and hit their abdomen with a bat repeatedly. Th... : mroizo40
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      smart caveman style? : Delaric
      • GENIUS caveman - I have int 10 and luck 10, all other stats 4 : mroizo40
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    yea im on that mission as well... fucking pain in the ass for a melee character... i get roasted... sledg... : -=kodiak=-
    • I thought I VATS'd in melee once or twice...just not with Unarmed. : Majuju
    • Can we get confirmation on vats in melee? I can't seem to make called shots with my baseball bat, which : Finestaut
  • Yes. I did. It's a frenzy, so it only does something when there are other fire ants around. bascially, it : Gonzo
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  How do you use the Medicine skill on yourself to heal? Can you? I think in fallout 1 & 2 you could use th... : r3ckless
  • To do that (in the old games) you had to have a first aid kit, or a surgeon's kit to heal crippling wound... : Caboose
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  Does this game remind anyone else of Deus Ex? It feels so much more like an old school PC RPG than Oblivi : cdbeckman
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    how does the user interface compare to oblivion? is it still console-ized? I used mods with oblivion to... : ]pm[chem
    • No the user interface is actually very good for PC : mroizo40
  • Yes, and I love it. : Killrig
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  The best thing this has over the past games is the radio : spiderfill
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    Galaxy News Radio has the best music ever : mroizo40
    • I know! That song about chopping up ladies was creepy as hell when I was sneaking around the SuperMart fo... : ChibiJosh
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    The guy on Enclave radio sounds like Malcolm McDowell. : dirge23
    • Oh hey look, it is Malcolm McDowell : dirge23
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    the radio is choppy for me playing on the PC version. it was really irritating so i had to turn it off. ... : grendel
    • yes, i have this problem too. i think it was caused by a codec pack I installed (CCCP). i noticed that th... : dirge23
    • Same here : joesnizzle
    • Is that what it is?? I thought I was just getting static on GNR. : Majuju
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  holy fuck i finally have a place to store my shit : oHnOES
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    its very fucking sweet : oHnOES
    • I've got all the upgrades for my hovel except for the juke box. Free heals, detoxifies, limb repair, rad ... : mroizo40
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      What theme did you get for your place? : lplasmatron
      • too rich for my blood :O im killing stuff and stealing and selling to make money : oHnOES
• Ok, with Fallout 3 and Dead Space, this is the best time ever for me to be on strike. God bless the Union... : Juno
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  Whoa, you get +10% XP if you sleep? Why wasn't this "well rested" bonus made more obvious!?! That basical... : Caboose
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    it's temporary : dirge23
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      Is there any time limit in Fallout 3 ? Do you have a limited time to finish the game ? Or can I sleep at ... : r3ckless
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        I was wondering this too, because there's a time limit in Fallout 1 iirc : dirge23
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          There were time limits for both 1 & 2, but they made sure to tell you this right at the start of 1 & 2 an... : mroizo40
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            There isn't one. : lplasmatron
            • Thank god : royalally
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    But the perk would add to it for a grand total of +40% XP. : Totenjaeger
    • That's just crazy with the level cap, though. Why rush your way to 20 and then not do any improving after... : Caboose
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    I think it only works if you are sleeping in an actual bed, long enough and with a hooker? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      doesn't have to be with a hooker - i get the bonus sleeping at home : mroizo40
      • and for only 2 hours : mroizo40
      • Then I guess it has to be an actual bed and nothing on the ground out in the wasteland or something. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Also, wtf is up with Vault 106? I cleared out everything, and I guess I know what happened but I couldn't... : CapnChaos
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    I went there, but I ran out of ammo, so I had to run away :( yay for 10 perception, 10 agility, no fuckin... : Juno
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      I only have like 4 STR. It's my amazing small guns skill that gets me through I think. That, and lots of ... : CapnChaos
      • Yeah, I'm having a blast being a mountain man... Got my cowboy hat, old man beard, and a hunting rifle :D : Juno
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      Ammo weighs nothing though, for hte most part. : Gonzo
      • yeah, but I ran out of ammo and couldn't beat anything up :( : Juno
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  Anyone else getting an error were the sound stutters and then the game freezes and you have to reboot? : sKetchflow
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    Sounds like a typical overclock/RAM/heat issue right there :( : royalally
    • can't be hehe it's an iMac running windows :P : sKetchflow
  • yeah I got a crash the other night, and it popped up some dialog that I couldn't see because the game was... : Modulus
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  Anyone have problems with NPCs disappearing? Walter in Megaton (the water treatment plant guy) that takes... : n0v4
  • No but I've had quest monsters get stuck inside walls and such. : mroizo40
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    he's gone from my game too. Noticed he was gone right after the Sheriff/Mr. Burke interaction. : reznory
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      What happened in yours? I wasn't quick enough on the draw, he popped the sherriff, but burke died, too. N : Juno
      • same thing : reznory
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        He seems to die either way. I killed Burke before the draw. And then the Sheriff's body just appeared on ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • Yeah, this quest bothered me, I opened fire as soon as Burke drew, he never took a shot at the Sheriff. : Finestaut
  • I saw him in the Saloon a few times. : malevolence
  • Have you checked the bed in the back room? I thought he was gone until I noticed there's a door back the... : DinK
  • The girl I was supposed to deliver a letter for apparently died? I found her face down at the bottom of a : CapnChaos
• Do you guys play with HDR on? It kind of annoys me personally. : Albemuth
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  thanks to this thread i want to go home and play . . . F you guys : jedi_27
  • Go on strike! http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18312952 : Juno
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  Too all the douchebags that didn't want Bethesda to bring us this fantastic sequel: PLAY THE GAME. You wo... : Killrig
  • yep, they honored the original franchise very well. This is the first game in YEARS that I simply cannot... : reznory
  • I'm a big fan of the originals, and after an hour I'm still cautious about this game, but it's definitely... : Finestaut
  • This is easily my GOTY as of Oct. 29th. Can't think of anything coming out between now and the end of th... : reznory
• Does anyone know of a way to take screenshots with your Xbox so we can all show each other our awesomenes... : Juno
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  Question - Does Liam Neeson narrate this and is it awesome? : Wolfanoz
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    Liam Neeson was my father. : mittense
    • And Malcolm Motherfucking McDowell is the president of the united states. : mittense
    • My father looked like an aged Guy Pearce and sounded like Liam Neeson. : SockMonkeh
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    Ron Perlman does the narration. Liam Neeson is your dad. : Finestaut
    • Man, Ron Perlman, Liam Neeson, Malcom McDowell. That's some testosterone in a game if I've ever seen it. : Wolfanoz
  • Ahh, I just read he is dear ole dad]. Cool, nonetheless. Darkman FTW. : Wolfanoz
  • He doesn't narrate, he voices a character. : dirge23
  • Liam Neeson rocks! : AlexXdude
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  I have to agree with the shack review, Fallout 3 captures that old-school PC game feeling in ways that I ... : reznory
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    This is true, for the moment I feel like I'm playing Fallout meets Deus Ex, which is a pretty fucking goo... : Finestaut
    • I think this is the most accurate description so far. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I don't really see it as capturing "old-school PC gaming" all that much. It's a great game, yeah, but I d... : mittense
    • Yeah, I don't really get this comparison. : dirge23
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      I don't get that comparison either. People said the same thing with the Witcher.....which amazed be consi... : avatar_58
      • I'm not saying it to mean it's good. It honestly reminds me of my glory days of PC gaming. Half-life,... : reznory
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      to me it's not about any gameplay similarities to games of yore, it's more about the fact that it has cap... : reznory
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        But what does that have to do with the glory days of PC gaming? I used to play Mario World like that but ... : avatar_58
        • ok fine, MY glory days of PC gaming. : reznory
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    to offset my glowing praise, I do wish there were a few simple, short WoW type quests when you don't have... : reznory
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      I think exploring kind of takes the role of short quests. You can just blunder into a ruin and find cool... : dirge23
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        Yeah every "dungeon" is custom made and has its own backstory/load of loot. : lplasmatron
        • I did the Anchorage War Memorial one which had a whole backstory to it revealed through the stuff you fin... : dirge23
        • the sewer across the river from jefferson memorial was a cool dungeon. : reznory
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      I really don't believe that "Oblivion with guns" is all that far-fetched a comparison. Fallout 3 really d : mittense
      • I don't feel that way - by using the Special system instead of a "do x a lot to gain experience in x" and... : mroizo40
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        In what ways other than using the same engine and dialog tree/zooming in on who you're talking to, etc? ... : reznory
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          Engine, dialogue, game progression, questing, the minigames (lockpicking, especially), and the combat (sa... : mittense
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            Ok, but at what point do any of this things feel out of place compared to Fallout 1 or 2 besides the mini... : reznory
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              You're kind of putting words in my mouth. I never said anything was out of place; it turns out that the k... : mittense
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                Sorry, I don't mean to sound pissy or anything. I just feel like "oblivion with guns" is oversimplifying... : reznory
                • Not sure I agree with your analogy there actually, I don't think it would be the same thing at all. Despi... : Toth21
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      "stalker without bugs"? There's GIANT bugs in Fallout 3 : MisterPhoton
      • other than Walter disappearing and some glitching of people getting hung on corners sometimes, I haven't ... : reznory
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        I think he meant software glitches. : ieGod
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          I believe Photon was making a joke. : mittense
          • WATCH OUT FOR THAT SCORPION :-D : MisterPhoton
          • Well it was a bad joke. Hmph. : ieGod
      • Radioactive even. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I do have to say that I am really enjoying it so far. I stayed up til 2am last night playing. There ar... : Modulus
  • No special, affects a lot of things, not just skills. For example, having a high perception means being a... : mroizo40
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    The stats do have an effect on things in the game. For instance, high strength characters do more damage ... : lplasmatron
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      well it's good to hear that stats do affect things in the game. So does perception affect weapon % To HI... : Modulus
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        I _think_ it affects the percentage to hit, but I'm not 100% sure on that one. I never really went with s... : lplasmatron
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          For those of us who missed out on Knights of the Nine, could you be a bit more specific? : Finestaut
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            Knights of the Nine was an Oblivion expansion where you tracked down this once powerful group of Knights ... : Delaric
            • The best part was that it absolved you of all the evil shit you did up to that point. : Totenjaeger
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              I was more referring to how much content was in it. Bethesda is saying that Fallout's dlc will be compar... : Finestaut
              • Knights of the Nine was an Oblivion expansion where you tracked down this once powerful group of Knights ... : Delaric
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          What about Fallout expansions set outside the US? It would be interesting to see a nuked out China, South... : Attica Blue
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            I hope the Fallout MMO has enough funding and gets made and doesn't suck ass. There is so much potential... : reznory
            • I'm an MMO whore, but I hope it doesn't work. MMOs always cheapen the setting for me. Too many people r... : valael
            • I think it would be really hard to make an MMO in a setting that's defined largely by loneliness. : Finestaut
  • Charisma and other stats do indeed affect what dialog choices you have. As far as the complaint abou... : reznory
  • I'm playing on the console, and I have to agree with your first two complaints. I don't like the dialog ... : Finestaut
  • I feel like most of the interface stuff will be solved with mods on the pc eventually. : hirosushima
  • I've found treasure caches with Perception and gotten extra dialog options from Intelligence and Charisma... : dirge23
  • try using a skill that you have a very low % in... makes attempting anything in those types of skills....... : -=kodiak=-
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  Is there a way to see your character's face, other than idling and waiting for the camera to pan around y... : dirge23
  • hold LB and move the right stick around on 360...no idea on PC. : reznory
  • On PC, hold down F, you can move the camera around and then zoom in/out. : Vincent Grayson
  • Click and hold mouse wheel while panning around. : Albemuth
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  melee VATS with the baseball bat = lol : Lawgiver
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    Melee VATS in general is hilarious and one my second or third playthrough it's going to be all about the ... : cdbeckman
    • Its all about the sledgehammer. : ADSliv
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    I didn't even THINK of trying vats with melee, how stupid. First on my list of things to do tonight... : ieGod
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      Unfortunately, you can't target specific body parts with melee weapons :( : malevolence
      • Yeah this bugs the SHIT out of me. Why the hell can't I target arms or other specific areas? If I take me : Caboose
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      screw the baseball bat... rock the sledge hammer like i have been. in VATS it's hilarious when you do ... : -=kodiak=-
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        How would you get that with an upward swing? : Totenjaeger
        • like an uppercut : zakazi
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      smashing faces with a bat in VATS is so very satisfying. I can't wait to get like a sledge hammer or some... : pukerat
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        All I can tell you is to keep an eye out for lawnmower blades :D :D :D : Caboose
        • o_o omg i want to go home RIGHT NOW and play this game >:(((((((((( : pukerat
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  So is it really good, or should I just get The Witcher instead? : Nixx2004
  • You should get The Witcher regardless. That game was amazing. : Finestaut
  • They're COMPLETELY different, and both awesome. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    You guys aren't helping. I can't afford both. Heh. : Nixx2004
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      If it's one or the other, I would say go with The Witcher. I'll probably get crushed because Fallout 3 i... : Finestaut
      • Seconded. You can't go wrong with The Witcher, but Fallout 3 is still a bit of an unknown quantity. : dirge23
  • I'm enjoying this a good deal more than the Witcher. But then, I'm enjoying this a good deal more than I'... : Vincent Grayson
  • Right now the hype is on fallout3, but both are good. : chungathebunga
  • Witcher is boring, get Fallout 3 : dilutedq
  • Both, only a few min with FO3 - But as far as RPG goes, Witcher EE is one of the best I've ever played. A... : bombay
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    I wish I had found the $10 Witcher at Target thing. Looked a few times, but it was never on clearance. : Nixx2004
    • Order the original version off of Amazon.com and then download the EE patch. Its only 21.50 there right ... : Toth21
  • You should get both. : SockMonkeh
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    Well I decided on The Witcher EE for $40. Once Fallout gets a little cheaper maybe I'll get it. : Nixx2004
    • You could have saved 20 bucks =( : Toth21
• Did they take out being able to play a "stupid" character where basically no one can understand you becau... : CapnChaos
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  Where the fuck is the key to that cell in the Hamilton's Keep or Hiding Place or whatever it's called? I ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    A certain person will give it to you if you do a favor for them. : lplasmatron
    • I hope that person wasn't in the dungeon, because everyone in there is fucking DEAD. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• You know what's terrible about this game? Its so stinking awesome I just want to play it all day. I got... : ADSliv
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  PC TWEAKS so far that I know of FOV to 90 While Ingame hit ~ and type FOV 90 and hit enter N... : Mondo
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    Do we have to change the FOV every time? : hirosushima
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      that shit drove me crazy in oblivion. ever loading screen i had to readjust the fucking fov. : Hoax
      • you don't in fallout, even if you don't change the ini.. it's just once. : lakren
      • i kept checking last night and it seemed like i only had to do it once per game session. though bellow h... : smacknca
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      Woops I should have put this in FALLOUT.INI find [Display] and edit fDefaultPOV=75 just change i... : Mondo
      • I did this last night but still have to change it in game. : skankcore
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  Super Dooper Mart Menz When you guys went to the Super Dooper Mart, was there a partially damaged deathc : DrZettl
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    Anyone? Was the Deathclaw scripted or not? : DrZettl
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      Not for me. I went there twice during two fresh saves, and came across completely different encounters. : Killrig
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        yeah, I got two raiders, one of those floating eyebots, and two ants in a big clusterfuck. : Juno
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          Ok, that makes me love this game even more. The nice part was that the Deathclaw had been heavily dama... : DrZettl
          • I had the deathclaw. Didn't notice if he was at half health. I tried to use a car blowing up to kill hi... : valael
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    I love how after I killed everyone and then turned on the intercom and went to hack the maintenance robot : skankcore
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      I got all excited about the robot. I lured some bandits in, they took two or three shots at the robot an : valael
      • It killed three bandits with no problem for me. Although I helped him a little with some potshots from th : skankcore
• so this is a video game, huh? : Mr.SEX
• so, regarding ian and the bloodlines quest someone at bethesda really likes vampires : cdbeckman
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  Does anyone have any good techniques for lock picking? My first lock (very easy), I burned through like ... : stump
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    also, how the fuck do you hack? someone explain it to me, i must be retarded. : lakren
    • I'm also retarded because I need it explained to me. : stump
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      term hacking is letter exclusion. click a word, if it says you got zero right then you know none of thos... : smacknca
      • For harder difficulty hacking the words become longer. So instead of 4 or 5 words there are 7. : Delaric
    • You have to guess the password from the words that show up in the memory dump. Each wrong word will tell... : Finestaut
    • Hack or guess? If it's the guess the password, you will see a list of human readable words mixed among... : trove
    • One of the words listed in the jumble is the actual password. You're trying to figure out which one it is... : mroizo40
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      don't forget to select all the [ in the dump. If it highlights more than just the [ and includes an endi... : reznory
      • (or give you all your tries back) : CapnChaos
      • sweet I did not know this : Delaric
      • oh sweet, thanks : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      The best hint is that a lot of words have "ING" at the end, so upon selecting one, if it's wrong or gives... : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • I'm pretty sure the password changes depending on the screen choices. I logged in and out of the Super Du : skankcore
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    For consistent success, just tap the w or a key to get the cylinder to start to rotate. If you see any r... : trove
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      Sounds pretty close to what I was doing. I wish there was some place to practice so I wouldn't be wastin... : stump
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        What's your lockpicking skill? If you have a low skill level you'll probably have a lot harder time. It... : Haku-Jin
        • I think it's 40 right now. I'm only level 3. I've only been trying the Very Easy locks. : stump
    • I think there's a clicking sound when the bobby pin is over a potential sweet spot. : Finestaut
    • That's the way I do it, too. Also if it's a "very easy" lock, chances are high that the vertical position... : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • I FINALLY figured it out last night. I am a lock picking master now. This is what you do... Try to tur... : skankcore
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  Only played to the point where I'm exploring Megaton. So far...FUCKING AWESOME. : Poor Yurik
  • yeah, there's so much to do in that ONE small town : I7 SilverFox
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  This game fucking rocks. I hate being at work. I want to go home and blow some eyes out the backs of peop... : SockMonkeh
  • after that are you going to play fallout 3? : lakren
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  Character Builds What build are you playing with your character (this is pursuant to the 'good perk ch : Majuju
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    Christ I have no idea why you would tag medicine. All it does is give you extra HP from Stimpaks and bett... : Caboose
    • I have high medicine and there have already been two quests where the high medicine skill came into play ... : mroizo40
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      guess you haven't gotten very far then, because there are certain in game tasks/side quests that require ... : Frozen Pixel
      • also: CYBORG : Majuju
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    All stats 4, Int and Luck 10. Luck is pretty important in Fallout, as it affects most actions. One rea... : mroizo40
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      I love that you play this game basically exactly the opposite of the way I play it and it works great for... : SockMonkeh
      • Yeah, I'm treating it more like how I played original fallout (less combat, more diplomacy) and possibly ... : mroizo40
    • Oh tag skills were medicine, repair, science : mroizo40
  • I have a pretty similar stat distribution, but took Science, Energy Weapons, and Unarmed. In retrospect ... : nurglich
  • I'm going for a rounded character that is generally decent at several things. I don't remember exactly w... : Delaric
  • I went for a survivalist guy, small arms, sneak, lockpick, plus a lot of points in repair and demolitions... : Juno
  • I always (in the Fallout games, including this one) pump up my Int, Str, & Agi. With Int being the highes... : Killrig
  • Sneaky repairman about to bust a cap : spiderfill
  • I did small guns, science, and medicine. Then poured points into lockpicking and repair. Worked out pr... : Gonzo
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  WTF? I shoot ONE person in Megaton in a house and as soon as I walk outside the entire town is shooting a... : Skoal^Fyfan
  • No be a man and live with your choices. : EvilDolemite
  • If you're gone from a settlement for long enough, they eventually calm down. I think it's 3 days or somet... : lplasmatron
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    i stole a cherry bomb and the entire fucking town went hostile on me : .ka`boom.zZz.
    • THIEF! I steal shit all over the place... sneaking skill 4tw : zerog83
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  anyone with a 8800 gts 320mb? hows it run? : niceguynick
  • Runs fine. I'm running it at 1680x1050, High detail preset. It was chunking like crazy at one point when ... : DrZettl
  • i started it for 10 seconds this morning, it defaulted to 8x/10x or something, and wanted to put 1280 12:... : Iwannaacura
  • im running it at 1152x864 with a good deal of eyecandy turned all the way up and its been fine so far. : buzzbat
  • im running it at 14xx res (widescreen) on high settings and it runs perfectly. Usually over 70fps. : r3ckless
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  Dudes, is the percentage next to some dialogue options like, [SOMETHING 8%] the percentage of success you... : royalally
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    Yes, that's the odds of them agreeing or doing what you say. Think of it like the force influence in koto... : Prozium
    • ah alright, cool. : royalally
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  Anybody on the 360 having any problems? I don't have it yet, wanted to know before I bought it. : Hello Kitty
  • the 5 people are too busy playing it on their 360s : Iwannaacura
  • No, the 360 release is excellent and I'm glad I went with it. : mittense
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    I had a gltich and a lockup, possibly related. I dunno. I put it away at that point, and plan on plowing ... : ieGod
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      Really? That's weird. Not that I played for almost six-eight straight hours yesterday without turning my ... : mittense
      • Haha, it wasn't a big deal. The glitch was probably due to my batteries dying around that time and some b... : ieGod
  • No problems so far, loving the fact that I can play this game from my couch. : Juno
  • Been playing for 5 hours with no problems : spiderfill
  • Load times are great (way better than Oblivion), and the controls are decent. I played at least 10 hour ... : Richese
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    Can't change fov on 360 version :( It is very disorienting when you're in large detailed areas. I had to ... : socksta
    • Well you can zoom out to 3rd person and the fov widens up considerably : mroizo40
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  Who do I always end up playing myself in these games? Because I'm a badass. : brickmatt
  • Me too. My Saints Row 2 guy looks exactly like me. It's a shame he's only half as badass. : mittense
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    I usually choose a woman because I don't like staring at a dude's back for 20 hours. But then again I do... : spiderfill
    • ^^^ has bitch tits : DrZettl
    • First Person view = problem solved : Killrig
    • are people playing this in 3rd person? : extrahappyturtle
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      lol...I love this excuse...it is like every dude that plays chicks in RPGs attends the same meeting or ge... : byorn
      • Haha, I was going to make the same comment. : mittense
    • My first character is a woman, mostly because I want to see how the black widow perk works (given that th... : Vincent Grayson
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  Ok, I already found a mod that I want BADLY. The hockey mask in the game looks like shit, I want one tha... : Poor Yurik
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    arclight helmet > hockey mask : Majuju
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      A proper looking hockey mask + my baseball bat would = win. Splatterhouse style. : Poor Yurik
      • Hockey mask + cricket bat. : Arcanum
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      Motorcycle Helmet > arclight helmet > hockey mask : locash
      • Motorcycle helmet is so huge and afro-looking, it's fucking hilarious and I can't STAND seeing it : Majuju
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  got to play it for about 45 minutes last night and I can see right away I am going lub it. Anyway... Ever... : Fredrik S
  • It crashed on my once while I was Alt+tabbing, but thats all. : skitzo
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    Make sure Fallout 3 isn't using the ffdshow audio codec, if you have it installed. That bastard was givin... : Killrig
    • Yeah, I had this problem too. : dirge23
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      How do you tell it not to use ffdshow? I had that installed at one time, but I think I uninstalled it a ... : Modulus
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        Info here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=893905&hl=ffdshow : Killrig
        • Thanks, will give this a try. : joesnizzle
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    crashed for me last night when i closed it. I have an 8800 gt also : extrahappyturtle
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      Same here. VATS was also horribly choppy. : stump
      • I haven't had any problems with VATS so far. : extrahappyturtle
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        same here. I have everything set to ULTRA but as soon as i enter VATS it lags to shit : DrFlammable
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          I just have mine set to high and VATS was smooth for the first few uses but after that, it lagged so badl... : stump
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            well see I am unarmed only so not killing something in VATS is unacceptable. The game doesn't lag anywher... : DrFlammable
            • I totally agree. I'm going to play again tonight and see if it happens again. Hopefully it isn't a reoc... : stump
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        I read disabling AA might help that. Give it a try? : Fredrik S
        • I'll see what that does when I get home but that's a shitty solution because it will make the game look w... : stump
      • I noticed that whenever anything scripted happened (like the vault door opened) the framerate dove down, ... : Schnapple
  • It crashed for me when I got out last night but that might have been because I had a VNC session connecte... : Horn
  • It crashed on Exit for me 8800 GT Vista x64. I noticed that it only crashed on exit if I quit from withi... : bRAINsick
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  Is this a bug? I just had my first encounter with the Brotherhood. I came up out of the other end of Mari : Caboose
  • no there's a few tasks like that that don't show up as quests or get rewarded or anything. Maybe there's... : reznory
  • Actually it turns out that the BoS guy who gave me the "quest" died in the firefight, so I guess that's w... : Caboose
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  Anyone notice that you can shoot grenades out of the air? I did it last night with VATS while fighting a ... : Vincent Grayson
  • huh, holy crap, that's neat. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Whoa no I did not but now that's gonna be my specialty. =) : DinK
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  What the hell you can't choose which body parts to hit with a sword in VATS. : freshyk
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    You can't target anything but the mass with melee weapons. : DrZettl
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      It's bullshit. I want to sever peoples' heads and arms. : freshyk
      • Seriously, there are lots of legs out in the wasteland, and lots of people who don't need them. While ... : Finestaut
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  Bobblehead question: Can you ever get rid of these? They clutter inventory and it won't let you drop it. : Edges
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    I believe you can use them to increase your stats or skills. I got a medicine boost from the first one I ... : Killrig
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      That's fine, but you can't drop them after, which is not fine. : Majuju
      • Hmm, weird. Mine was "consumed" after I used it. Or so it appears. : Killrig
  • You get a place to store them in your house : mroizo40
  • yes, there's a bobblehead rack in your house once you get it : reznory
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  It seems like a lot of people are playing in 3rd person view... What the hell is wrong with you people!? : Reeves
  • I'm not. But I'm not dumb either. :( : mittense
  • I tried it but I didn't like it at all. Maybe once I get some cool armor it'll be worth it. : Horn
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    yeah, to me 3rd person detracts from the immersion. : I7 SilverFox
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      Unless you pretend you're ice skating. : CapnChaos
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        hahaha yeah because that's pretty much what it looks like. : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • woah, I totally get the reference on your name now : I7 SilverFox
  • It might be ok if you're doing VATS mostly for combat, I don't know. : mroizo40
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    I don't because the animation is god awful. I don't think it has improved a bit since Oblivion. : freshyk
    • yeah it's pretty terrible. It looks like he's some sort of handicapped individual that has to take a runn... : pukerat
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    If the run animation was better I might do it more, but it's just soooo bad :( : Frozen Pixel
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      no kidding, it's like QW when I glide over machinery and rat bodies : kgargonmagrix79
      • No wonder the animations looked fine to me. : chungathebunga
  • Eww. Any time I use it, it's for like 2 seconds. Half the time I just want to check my equipment, and h... : DinK
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  I'd never used Windows Live before this game and I have to say, I'm impressed. It's just cool to turn on ... : Albemuth
  • Hell yeah! I hope more PC releases go the "Games For Windows" route. This is just awesome. : Killrig
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  I've never played before. What do I roll as? : Clay
  • small guns/two other skills, average-ish stats, you'll be fine : Majuju
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    for skills, Lock picking and science are used for .... locking picking and science hacking So both of th... : Modulus
    • oh and save the bobby pins. You need them for lock picking. I didn't know and sold them first thing, and ... : Modulus
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  so is everyone pleased with the game so far? even those who were skeptical before release? : pandastrong
  • Yes. I still think the writing is weak, but most of my concerns for the game seem to be unfounded. : mittense
  • I was skeptical, and am enjoying it so far. We will have to see how the game holds up the further I get i... : Modulus
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    I'm still quite skeptical, but I'm increasingly pleased. : Finestaut
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      Yeah ditto. I turned it off after about 2 hours, kinda annoyed. But when I jumped back into the action th... : davantalus
      • I got overwhelmed after playing for about 2 hours too. : dirge23
  • I was not skeptical at all before release and am more than pleased so far. I would say, enthralled fits b... : skankcore
  • I wasn't skeptical, and I'm very fucking pleased. This will easily occupy me for several weeks before I t... : Vincent Grayson
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    I'm not totally loving the game just yet which is a bad thing. This is the new Fallout and it should alre... : freshyk
    • how far are you? Were FO1/2 your favorite games of all time before you even left Shady Sands/Vault 15/etc... : derelict515
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  I worry for Dogmeat's safety too much. : kramweil
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    That's why I'm afraid to go get him now that I know where he is. :( : mittense
    • You can have him wait in your house or send him back to Vault 101 when you're going to tough places. : Geoffrois
• Fallout 3 and Stupid Games for Windows Live Lameness. FIXED The Windows LIVE multiple key activation p... : porp
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  After playing Fable 2 for so much. Jumping into fallout 3, I miss my furry companion. =( Maybe in Fal... : Frozen Pixel
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    There is a dog in Fallout 3 : EvilDolemite
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      He can be my pet and fight with me? Guess I haven't gotten that there yet, but awesome if true. =) : Frozen Pixel
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        Yup, there's a dog. : lplasmatron
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          Cool! If he dies is he really dead or can he be revived or something? If his death is permanent, then tha... : Frozen Pixel
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            It's Fallout, he's dead if he dies. :P : lplasmatron
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              =( I guess when I get him he'll just stay home with my butler : Frozen Pixel
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                Haha "home"...this is the apocalypse! "Butler" meaning "corpse of supermutant you use for a chair" ? : EvilDolemite
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                  I have a house in the game with a butler. : Frozen Pixel
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                    I thought getting a butler with the house was a little out of character for the game. I didn't see any ot... : Modulus
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                      he gives you pure water : RetroRedEyeJr
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                        Regarding the pure water, Does the bum do anything for you besides repair your karma? I've given him abo : trove
                        • lol I gave him a water when he first asked; but then he wanted more, so I told him 'no' thinking he was j : Modulus
                    • it is a quest reward. it's part of the reward, along with the house. : reznory
                • You have a home with a butler, though. And he has joke functionality! : mittense
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              Can you get another one? : Richese
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                Nope. But there are other followers you can get. : lplasmatron
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                  Other followers? I thought the official word was that it's just the dog. REVEAL YOUR SECRETS! : Finestaut
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                    There's a guy in Megaton. He's the only one I'm certain about so far, but I didn't take him. I assume the... : Vincent Grayson
                    • I think the # is 8 : lplasmatron
                    • Yeah, I'm trying to get him. First I had to not have good karma and now I need 1000 caps =( (spoiler... : DinK
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              can you eat Dogmeat when he dies? : dirge23
              • well, you can eat the dogmeat from the crazed dogs, so I assume you could eat dogmeat's dogmeat. : cdbeckman
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            I haven't gotten him yet, but based on the previous fallout games, you have to defend your allies pretty ... : Finestaut
            • Also, the lack of Marcus in this game definitely improves the dog's chances for survival. : Finestaut
            • I've gotten dogmeat and it is this way. He can do an incredible amount, but if your in the middle of 5 en... : cdbeckman
      • Yes, and he can kick the Fable 2 dog's ass!! : EvilDolemite
  • wut about Dogmeat? : Frank_Mackey
  • Dogmeat : kramweil
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    The dog in fable 2 was great. I loved seeing his little floppy ears bouncing around when he was running. : stump
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      They really nailed the dog. It was the only NPC that felt alive in the entire game. : Frozen Pixel
      • This is so true; I'm actually planning on writing an article about what the dog brought to the game. He w... : mittense
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      the dog animations were amazing in fable 2. wonder if they mo-capped a dog. : reznory
      • For every dog I've seen, the only motion capture data you could acquire is the dog running in circles, tr... : Finestaut
  • The back shows a screenshot of you walking with a dog. You never know! : Edges
• I can't find a fucking copy of Fallout 3 in all of Montreal god damnit. I ordered online yesterday at fut... : mnok
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  Quick Question: Can you get sidekicks in fallout 3? I had a conversation chain that seemed to lead to t : trove
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    I overheard something like this in Megaton: Megaton person: Hey Jericho! what's happening? Jericho:... : Delaric
    • The way people talk in this game is hilarious. Much better NPC banter than Oblivion. : Vincent Grayson
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    Yeah, there are various NPCs you can recruit. Most will only join you if your karma is a certain level. : lplasmatron
    • I thought this wasn't the case until last night when I tried to recruit Jericho (and then I got Dogmeat).... : derelict515
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  so what's the deal with such low-res textures even on max in the PC version? :( i guess Crysis and FarCr... : eeeealmo
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    RPGs are never really at the pinnacle of graphical innovation. : dirge23
    • mods please tag N/A : Luminair
    • What? What about Mass Effect? : datoo
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    its a console game : TheFatMom
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      Is this like the "one drop of black blood and you're black" thing? Why isn't it a PC game, or at least a ... : Chris Remo
      • It's a console game cause I watched this interview with a Bethsoft dude he said 360 was primary SKU. : SpaecKow
      • I haven't played much of the game yet but I do think that the interface seems like it was designed more w... : datoo
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    Cause there's a lot more to see in Fallout 3 than in Far Cry 2. Have you noticed how closed the average a... : SpaecKow
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      play more Far Cry 2... : mwasher
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        Okay maybe I'm wrong. : SpaecKow
        • Yeah I think you are. Far Cry 2 has a really efficient engine. I don't think the same can be said of Beth... : datoo
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    yeah you can tell that they made a conscious decision to spend just enough time and money on art to make ... : Luminair
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      i wouldn't go that far. texture resolution is about the only graphical thing that isn't superior on the ... : kill9
      • geometry detail is pretty scarce : Luminair
  • Radiation poisoning : spiderfill
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  Where are the saved game files located in Vista? : byorn
  • Documents/My Games : Albemuth
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  Who else is playing on hard? I'm seriously considering taking it down to normal. It doesn't seem tough... : tree8
  • needs more difficulty mod. normal difficulty does good damage against enemies, but they don't do much ag... : Luminair
  • I started on Hard and lowered it to Normal because of the ammo situation. I don't know how much of a dif... : stump
  • I'm playing on normal, but my guy doesn't do much damage and I get outnumbered quickly : I7 SilverFox
  • I'm playing unarmed on hard, no ammo concerns. haven't really had a tough fight, but i've yet to really ... : mwasher
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  What leveling curves are you guys using? I'm putting 3 or 4 points each level into each of my tagged skil... : Caboose
  • I'm doing 5 in my tagged. : tree8
  • I get 23 points a level, and I've been spreading them out to some extent. My repair/speech/small guns are... : Vincent Grayson
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  I've basically killed everyone who gives me a mission. They always have the best stuff. : sKetchflow
  • Oh god I love this reply. Can't wait :( : daedraug
  • i had planned to do that when i got home :( : Iwannaacura
  • This is how you play fallout. bwahahahaha : zakazi
• 666 replies? EVIL : loke662
• yes! i found a super easy way to deal with fireants!!! fuck those things, after i figured this out i wish : -=kodiak=-
• It's a rare thing but I think this game has started to affect me in real life, like how I've read some pe : DinK
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  I'm having a hard time being sneaky. Have a high sneak skill, but still get seen quite often. :( : mwasher
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    sneak + being hidden + pscyho power up + hand grenade + group of enemies = hilarity : -=kodiak=-
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      Just tonight I was finding sneak + hidden + pickpocket + frag grenate + "WHAT THE-KABOOOM" to be quite th... : DinK
      • haha i just did this to the dude outside megaton who wants water. tired of him asking me. but i reloade : mwasher
  • Protip: Armor weight has an impact on how stealthy you are. So big clunky metal armor == noisy, a suit ==... : lplasmatron
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  Anyone have trouble with the game crashing frequently? : SockMonkeh
  • no but i found an annoying problem. Sometimes on "reload last save" and i have a weapon out, it will cons... : -=kodiak=-
  • It's crashing like every 10 minutes for me. :( : SockMonkeh
• ..I'm at PDC right now. I can't play. :( Sadness! : Tauru
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  ATTN TXT: HOW THE FUCK DO I GET TO GALAXY NEWS RADIO PLAZA ??? Every stupid route I take ends up with ... : Skoal^Fyfan
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    Just activate the quest and follow the markers. It'll show you which metro lines to take. : lplasmatron
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      By Metro lines do you mean I need to go into the station and fight my way through it? : Skoal^Fyfan
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        !!! I got lost for 3 hours last night too, this is how i figured it out, on the very outside of the first... : ant321
        • Doesn;t help when I can't deal with 6 Feral Ghouls yet... : Skoal^Fyfan
      • Yes, you go through the metros and come out in different parts of DC : lplasmatron
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  Is fallout worth getting on 360, or should i nab it on PC? My PC is a Dual Core 1.86 with an 8800 gt o... : krym3
  • It'll run great on your PC. It's also a GFW live game so it has achievements too. : Prozium
  • I love playing this game from my couch, even though it does have that old school PC game feel, it plays w... : Juno
  • No idea how it'd run on your PC, but I'm enjoying the hell out of it on 360. : Caboose
• crash number two! :( : buzzbat
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  Exploring question: Near DuPont Circle, has anyone run into Dukov's Place? I think I can talk one of his : Caboose
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    im doing that right now... the bitch died on me on the way to the town cuz she ran in front of a super mu : -=kodiak=-
    • probably the best way to handle it is to go there first without the chick, then later go back and forth w... : Caboose
• Don't think there was a subthread for this. Early in the game, Megaton: nice town in the wastelands, or : DinK
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  I'm thinking about starting over and using guns. Unarmed isn't that exciting really. I wish I could tar... : mwasher
  • I can't imagine that's very fun. At least in FO2 you could still target with unarmed and do cool martial ... : derelict515
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    seriously, running around the wasteland with shit shooting at you from everywhere sucks. you have to run... : mwasher
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      this is why people usually bring guns to gunfights : dirge23
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        should be someway to make unarmed a viable method :\ : mwasher
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          there should be a natural tradeoff that makes it worth it for some people. for instance, playing an effe... : Luminair
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            i just don't see how to successfully run up on 3 guys shooting you and beat them before they do a decent ... : mwasher
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              make sure you have high endurance and good damage resist armor =\ : derelict515
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                Yeah, this, also, you never have to buy/keep/use ammo, so you end up making tons more money, so you can b... : lplasmatron
                • yea i screwed up my build bad :( i'm starting over as small guns / sneak / lock pick for now. i wasn't ... : mwasher
  • Why the fuck would you do unarmed, manwasher? THE GAME HAS SO MANY GUNS. : mittense
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    Unarmed is my favorite way to play the game. Unarmed + a level 3 iron fist perk = you fuck shit up hardco... : lplasmatron
    • seems boring so far : mwasher
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      What!?! They took Martial Arts out!?! Oh, wow. My Kung-Fu Revolver technique is going to suffer. (Aimed s... : AxeMan808
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        Yeah, it bugs me that unarmed got simplified and ESPECIALLY that you can't do any VATS targeting wth mele... : Caboose
        • It's really dumb imo. It's obvious it does locational damage with melee so why can't I pick? : mwasher
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        i never played unarmed in fallout 1/2.. the only hand to hand combat moves i saw were power kick and powe... : ballystix
        • 12 attacks: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Unarmed : AxeMan808
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  Game Problems: Fallout crashed and now when I try to start it, I get an error message that the key server : ChibiJosh
  • You need to find the keymaster. : Prozium
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  how can I check the health of a follower? specifically dogmeat : derelict515
  • Target him in VATS. You'll see his life bar. : paroxym
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  Guys. I want Power Armor. Where the fuck is the person I need to talk to to get the skill? The BoS said "... : mittense
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    i wanna know where there is a super sledge :| : -=kodiak=-
    • There's one in the Museum of Technology! : mittense
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    When I've found him, he's usually been outside near where you first come in. He does wander around though... : lplasmatron
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      I'm just at GNR right now : mittense
      • Oh well then you have a long ways to go. :) : lplasmatron
  • Me too.. I found some armor and got all excited, threw away my old armor and all, only to find that I cou : Reeves
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  I'm really bummed with my character template. I've never played a Fallout before this and dumped most of... : kgargonmagrix79
  • if you were going to go with non-combat skills you should make speech one of them : derelict515
  • You can find a laser pistol in Super-Mart pretty early on. : Caboose

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• NWS for language : thekidd
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  I was expecting the band Cake, but that's pretty funny : smegmar
  • Same here, on both counts. : Flint Ironstag
• awesome - just awesome : flagg209
• OH MY LOL : zebosausamite
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  What is up with all those Lazytown remixes? : mancide
  • /b pedobear obsession : zebosausamite
• Good lord, that's awesome. : Ride-My-Rocket
• HOLY SHIT hahahaha : askedrelic
• that ended up being pretty rad. : bakanoodle
• hahaha : Jiven
• Wow hahahaha : ateam311
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  Hahaha I can't believe people listen to and like that Lil John shit. : freshyk
  • WHAT? : riptyde
  • YEAH I agree : askedrelic
  • OHKAY! : onji
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    At least he sings about drinking and having a good time vs death, tears or taring hearts out. : kanix
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      Yeah. I think his production skills are better than his rapping though. The man creates beats that would ... : focusdaily
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        Yep. Lil Jon is an awesome producer, I just wish he would stop trying to rap : ColoradoCNC
        • I agree. His track on Murs' latest album is just fantastic. : aaarrrgh
    • What? : razlebol
  • NOOOoooo, I feel like I'm back in the BYOC at Quakecon. : mrwolf710
• At first I was like, not again... but then it got awesome! : yosemiteclimber
• OMG awesome! : nodge69
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  Ahahahaha. I was watching this when the cleaning lady came in. :| : Rice-Rocketeer
  • it's cool, now she thinks you're jiggy with it. : thekidd
• hahaha wasn't expecting that : riptyde
• Ahahaha...I can't believe people actually listen to that (original song). : CapnChaos
• hah that was fucking superb : niceguynick
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2VMsaQKxw : drucifer
• hahahahaha, that is amazing. That came out of nowhere. : aaarrrgh
• Mastgrr's TF2 theme remix is pretty hot. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtmPJlRAh-A : mwasher
• bwahahhaha, I didnt expect that at all. : razlebol
• lol what : two50six
• ok, that ain't right : drucifer
• why isnt this +inf yet? : conandan
• my mom saw that and asked "is one of the shows like that?" : OrkO
• I fear it will be days before that cake song is out of my head, thx ahole : fathertime
• Hahaha - very good. : furiouscrak

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• I like the name of the wifi, Flyingbits. : royalally
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  Windows 7 may not change much under the hood, but the extent of these interface changes makes it clear th : -Panther-
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    Huh? The main point of Vista was to fix a whole bunch of things 'under the hood'. Now that that framework... : Arctic Fox
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      Yeah but didn't Vista kill performance in a lot of areas (i/o comes to mind)? Most of the complaints I... : -Panther-
      • I thought most of the performance issues were addressed with SP1? : breadsticks
      • No, not really. They had an issue with copying files early on that they fixed. Vista is a massive impro... : uncleanmonkey
    • Some compelling things changed in Vista (particularly how it handles memory, virtual memory and the netwo... : Yanks
    • I thought a bunch of features were left out of Vista (like the new file system). I guess I assumed they w... : fatman
  • Depends on how you define problem. The changes made in Vista "under the hood" were absolutely necessar... : rosewood
  • I think when under the hood changes don't match the pace of developer development, that's where the probl... : Dynotaku
  • No. Vista is fantastic under the hood. People (and manufacturers) trying to run it on old hardware are th... : retarded talking dinosaur
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  I do to but what is the compelling reason t upgrade after I've become accustomed to vista. I hate to soun... : boomstickah
  • good thing I get retail copies for free during MS events otherwise I wouldn't own Vista. It's an OK OS bu... : metalremains
  • Neither. At least XP was out for a long while. : Rag and Bone Man
• Looks like a mac. : pigvomit
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  So are they still going to use "MinWin" or whatever they were calling their stripped down kernel? : mafu5150
  • MinWin isn't a new kernel or anything, it's just a reorganization of code so that they can build a minimu... : uncleanmonkey
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  this guy says it still sucks http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisedesktop/archives/2008/10/windows_7_o... : baconisgod
  • Ugh closed tab as soon as he said Vista is memory hogging. Anyone who doesn't understand what Superfetch ... : Arctic Fox
  • I don't have any problems with memory in Vista. I have 3GB, with a few browser windows open and Warhamme... : wykd
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    This guy is a huge whiner. That said, his #3 point about Vista is very true. The reorganization that they... : Yanks
    • That's true, but I think since Win7 is UI focused, they will reorganize those dialogs and actually redo t... : retarded talking dinosaur
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    That has to be the crappiest review ever... I mean he can dislike it if he wants, but he doesn't really o... : uncleanmonkey
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      Especially the enterprise comment -- I mean wtf? At this point, Windows in general 'just works' in the en : Yanks
      • can't say I have many problems with Server 2k3 and AD... And the test box I have with Server 2008 is pret... : zerog83
  • All of the stuff he is whining about is stupid, especially complaints about moving stuff around. THE OLD ... : retarded talking dinosaur
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  i want a fancy new ui without rounded corners :( : Foxhawk
  • real OS's have curves : liquidlies
  • even XP has rounded corners : retarded talking dinosaur
  • disable themes then? : steve_o
• It's Vista. : GodZilly
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  Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes it automatically; dragging it off the top of the scr : omnova
  • Now thats a good UI enhancement. As long as you can turn it off, of course. : Yanks
  • that is very cool : aeg1x
  • I usually do windows key+D to minimize everything, restore the two windows I want to share between, then ... : Omaha
  • That is a great idea. : Barnahog
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    oh fucking hell, someone with a fucking clue about UIs is working for MS now? how the hell? : moshman
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      development is being led by the same guy was in charge of Office 2007 : sigpro
      • To Do List: 1. bigger buttons 2. something else about bigger buttons. : Phil
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        The Office 2007 GUI, or the functionality? : Ride-My-Rocket
        • This guy Steve Sinofsky http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/ssinofsky/ : sigpro
      • Fuck yeah. The Office 2007 people are heroes to me. : yoonix
  • Very very hot : SenorSpine
  • Now that I do like. : node
  • Cool. : thejm4n
  • That's a great idea and I would use that a ton. : OverloadUT
  • another great idea stolen from linux :D : Perturbation
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  well, this basically lets me skip over Vista. : reznory
  • Pretty much. : rosewood
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    that's my plan. xp still rocking the house at the moment. : [fry]
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      same here, maybe i'll pick up 7 : Mr.SEX
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        when is 7 due out anyway? : Mr.SEX
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          Some people say June 09. MS originally was targeting Jan 2010. : sigpro
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            that's not too long of a wait, i've already gone this far without vista and i don't have that feeling of ... : Mr.SEX
            • Don't forget the waiting period to make sure it doesn't break anything important. : heartsauce
  • Yup. Though I do like tinkering with Vista on this laptop. : lightly inclined
  • And I'll basically skip over Windows 7 since I have Vista. : Tommy Toolbag
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  What I love is that it's essentially Vista with different (not nessarliy better or worse) UI decisions an... : avatar_58
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    Who is pretending it is vastly different under the hood? That ars review says exactly the opposite. : rosewood
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      The branding seems to indicate that it's 'supposed' to be a major release when it's kinda sorta minor. (t... : Yanks
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        The vast majority of people couldn't give a fuck about what's going on under the hood. To a huge chunk of... : SenorSpine
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          Which re-iterates me point: people will flip over how 'amazing' Windows 7 is when it's essentially Vista.... : avatar_58
          • I find that most of what stupid people do is hilarious. I had a lady yesterday bitching about Vista an... : rosewood
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            XP was essentially Win 2K with an improved interface...is dramatically improving the usability of an OS r... : reznory
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              Dramatically? You could include most of these changes in a service pack. The only reason Microsoft isn't ... : avatar_58
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                well, it's a pretty smart move given how stigmatized the Vista name has become. Plus they can sell Win... : reznory
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                  Yes but thats my point - they've given up trying to convince people and instead developed the "anti-vista... : avatar_58
                  • You have no idea about the changes under the hood : derelict515
                  • Welcome to marketing 101: its hard to shake bad press. Hearsay suggests Redmond has nearly abandoned Vist... : antareus
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  they have GOT to include a simple XP theme for the panicked folks... such as corporate. windows 7 loo... : Downforce
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    why do you say that? There wasnt a windows 3.11 mode when 95 came out? : mrsparil
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      progman.exe FTLOL : d fluke
      • I'm pretty sure that progman existed up until XP SP2, lol : Yanks
    • Actually yes. Yes there was. Because I used it for awhile. : DOOManiac
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    Theme - Windows Classic = problem solved. Even in Vista. In fact I've often wondered if we should do this... : avatar_58
    • agreed. but initially, this will trigger the "TOO MUCH CHANGE" panic in the PC using drones. for example... : Downforce
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    People who are still using Windows Classic theme need to be shot in the face. Repeatedly. : ColoradoCNC
    • I prefer Windows Classic.. kicking it old school is just how i roll. : Mmmmmoo
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  Brr. Less pixelart more vectors plx. : [7]kami
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    Vectors sound great in theory but suck in practice for icons etc. : Carnivac
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      really? i think vector icons are awesome. i can't stand seeing regular icons in places scaled to sizes th... : flasher 907
      • Yeah you have to re-render and create a bitmap from the vector everytime/everywhere you want to show it. ... : Carnivac
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  I don't like Vista's explorer. I prefer the classic Windows Explorer with a list of drives and folders...... : sikander
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    like this? http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=vexp_ct64oz1umq01cn7oamxy.png : Dave-A
    • Hahah.. yes like that. Yes, I know its customizable but the default view that I've seen for Vista's e... : sikander
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    help computah? http://www.shackpics.com/files/helpcomputah_azxmszt3nctqcj81gdrs.jpg : sludge vohaul
    • That Favourite Links bs annoys me. Also, don't like/want the hd display at the bottom. : sikander
  • the file explorer in vista is such a nightmare. there are about a billion buttons up and down the sides a... : flasher 907
• I still prefer xp with my blackmesa theme. : razlebol
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  It's been less than two weeks since I got a MacBook and I kinda don't want to use Windows ever again. :( : rudds
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    I'm getting a MBP next week, don't say such things. ;[ : lightly inclined
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      If I didn't want to play certain PC-only games, I'd get rid of my desktop. I honestly resent having to us... : rudds
      • hey, a 9600M would let you play modern games properly! heck, the 9400M isn't that bad, either, all thing... : Postal
  • welcome to my world, btw - after I got an iMac in 2005 I started using Windows less and less : Postal
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    Yes, OSX is pretty much the greatest thing ever. It is true. : Yanks
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      not for everyone it isnt. : Unleashed
      • Its true. It's not the greatest thing for everyone, but its pretty darn good otherwise. : not work safe
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      Suddenly your posts in this thread make so much more sense. : ColoradoCNC
      • You never noticed this before? it's ok Yanks you're still cool : derelict515
      • Hey, I also use Windows on a regular basis too! I have Vista x64 installed to play games. After a couple ... : Yanks
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      Every time I play w/ OSX I say to myself, "I could be doing this so much faster on Windows..." : ImageOmega
      • I like it but it definitely isn't as keyboard friendly in my experience (that's part of Quicksilver's app... : derelict515
      • Right, because drilling down three layers of menus and tabs to make a change in Windows is so much faster... : Serpico74
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        I'm curious where. Examples? This may be that you're simply more familiar with Windows and not with OS... : Fayk
        • The big thing is simple navigation of files (ie: Windows Explorer). It's more so that I'm more familiar ... : ImageOmega
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  what was the talk when xp was coming out? i only read a few articles back then and sort of avoided the c... : Mr.SEX
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    people hated that their 95 and dos programs didn't work.. ti was the antichrist blah blah.. required more... : sludge vohaul
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      ok so this is all par for the course then : Mr.SEX
      • it always is but people have short memories : sludge vohaul
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  Vista 2.0? : NFXFSX
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    Vista SE : electroly
    • Vista ME : cerealSAM2
• It's about time they killed text descriptions in the task bar, but it just looks so much like the OSX doc... : node
• Another common task that 7 improves is "peeking" at windows; switching to a window briefly just to read s : Bruzilla
• Meh at GUIs. Just make it faster than crappyVista, make Windows Explorer JUST like it was in XP, make it ... : SlamDunk
• Reminds me more of KDE 4.1 more than an OS X Aqua interface. Looks slick. All I really want from Windows ... : dmason
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  as long as i can make it look like win95 UI it will be fine : gyokuro
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    I do not understand you people : derelict515
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      winXP regular UI is one of the ugliest UI's ever invented. I think they designed it for people wh are eit... : gyokuro
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        Some of us happen to think Windows 95 was ugly. I prefer the smoothed look of Vista over the old style. : avatar_58
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          Vista has taken over as my preferred UI. I used to go for the old Win 95/98 look in XP. : bRAINsick
          • i'd prob use the Vista theme but i'm in XP : gyokuro
          • same here... Vista UI is so much cleaner than the XP bubble look : sludge vohaul
          • Same. Hated XP's goofy visuals, but I really like how Vista looks. : Chris Remo
          • I would be using it if my laptop was faster :( I hate XP's so much though I have used classic since fore... : mikecyb
          • Same. I can't stand the Fischer Price themes. But if I can, I'll go the custom theme route. : DrWaffles
          • XPs native UI always looked like a box of crayons to me. : Richese
      • I agree that the default windows XP theme is horribly ugly, and while I use and prefer the classic theme ... : datoo
    • Autism is a horrible, horrible thing. You really can't understand people afflicted with it. :( : walker270
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  They will have to make drastic changes to improve the user experience. i.e.: http://media.arstechnica.co... : Nitrium
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    I could say the same about Finder (so painful) : derelict515
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      Yeah I hope they kick its ass for Snow Leopard. The status bar mainly needs more info though, otherwise I... : node
      • Don't expect any front end/UI changes in Snow Leopard : derelict515
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        there are a number of little things you can do to Finder via Terminal commands to make it more usable (li... : dopefish
        • hmm might investigate. the dumbest most worthless thing is the fucking "5 of 10 files selected" wtf is th... : node
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      Finder is so bad. Adequate, but so, so bad. : Yanks
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        It bums me out that Finder was so awesome in OS9 and now it sucks in OSX :-( They ruined a lot of the th... : electroly
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          They're apparently doing a rewrite of it in Cocoa for 10.6, so maybe they'll fix some of the stupid probl... : Yanks
          • I laugh when I hear it isn't multithreaded, aka, networks/disks will slow down the UI if they're not resp... : antareus
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          I agree, Mac OS 7-9 are my favorite OS in terms of UI. I will not miss the constant memory errors and the... : datoo
          • I liked manually allocating memory to programs. I facepalm'd when I saw that Java was trying to bring ... : antareus
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        It also amuses how much of a pass Apple gets for it while the smallest change to Explorer causes outrage : derelict515
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          why do you say that? people bitch non-stop about Finder, and have been doing so ever since 10.0 was rele... : electroly
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            Sure, but they're vastly outweighed by explorer complaints. People say OSX is great and largely forget ab... : derelict515
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              I think this is simply a matter of there being more Vista users. Pretty much ALL Mac users, both "switch... : electroly
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                People don't say 'OSX is great but Finder ...' where as you've got lots of Vista users going omg my back ... : derelict515
                • We must be reading different threads or something. That is exactly what I see people say all the time. ... : electroly
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                  That is just wrong. : vigilante
                  • really? Because there are a lot of 'omg I got a new Mac' posts here and rarely do I see people complain a... : derelict515
        • Have you not noticed how it's mentioned in every Mac gripe thread? Honestly though, I spend so little ... : Fayk
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          Besides the toolbar Finder hasn't changed since 10.2 outside of Quicklook and Coverflow view which coverf... : Yanks
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            And yeah Finder is still pretty terrible. : Yanks
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              Yeah but you'll still post that OSX is the best thing ever but if Explorer was as bad it would definitely... : derelict515
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                Actually, I do think Explorer is bad. But it's better than Finder. In the end I don't really use Finde... : Yanks
                • I wasn't trying to single you out, it's common. If Explorer were simply sufficient for basic tasks Window... : derelict515
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    The breadcrum trail is probably my favorite new explorer feature in Vista. : nomaad
    • It's right after user-definable shortcuts in the explorer bar for me. : SiW.
    • It doesn't make a difference to me - my complaint is that it behaves differently depending where you clic... : Nitrium
  • i like how they've subdued the colors. the gradients in the default Vista explorer window are a little e... : electroly
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  I can download like 3 programs to duplicate all that on XP. No thanks. : loboca
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    You people : rosewood
    • Indeed. : Arctic Fox
  • what 3 programs? : hirez
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    Actually, you cannot download any program for XP to add 3d acceleration to your desktop. : Richese
    • Well, you can...the problem is they're buggy and suck balls. Addon stuff like that and Compiz (etc.) do : Judicus
• Can we just make the OS a web browser already and be done with it. : jigstah
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  Sorry Microsoft, the network became the killer app. Not interested in having to re-memorize some nifty me... : PlanetPerfecto
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    But they know that. Why (besides the obvious antitrust concerns) do you think that a bunch of the Windows... : Arctic Fox
    • Also, Windows Azure : Richese
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  i just want the fucking windows classic UI. : skryte
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    microsoft is in such a corner. they are damned if they do change, damned if they don't. hopefully this... : Downforce
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      So much hate for windows search. : rosewood
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        I fucking love windows search, spotlight, etc. And I'm organised. I can't imagine how much of a godsend t... : Arctic Fox
        • Windows Search is broken. You can't even restrict a search to a certain drive sometimes. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
        • I would LOVE windows search if it fucking worked. The number of times it has come back with no result... : rosewood
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      Windows Key + R -> cmd -> dir /s /a findwhatyouneed*.* : sludge vohaul
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        Why the Winkey R anymore? just click start and type cmd : rosewood
        • And if you do it this way, you can do start>cmd and then hit ctrl+shift+enter to get a command prompt wit... : Arctic Fox
    • Windows search is great. You can configure it to search whatever you want, just because it doesn't do th... : Richese
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      Get rid of it? It's very useful for common programs and control panel apps. I use it every single day her... : avatar_58
      • That part of it I love. The finding files part needs some work. : rosewood
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  as long as they fix Explorer when "remember each folder's view settings" is unchecked, I'll be happy : Goncyn
  • They fixed it in XP in SP2 so hopefully Vista will incorporate this fix in it's SP2. How Vista doesn't a... : Richese
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  fugly imo. I don't like more bubbles, gradients and rounded edges in my OS. I prefer speed, simplic... : x4nth3
  • You know that you can turn all of the "chrome" off, right? : Arctic Fox
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    "if you are not running your applications full screen you are doing it wrong" LOL : Serpico74
    • Yeah try running a browser full screen on a 30" monitor, it's hilarious. : Arctic Fox
  • what is this garbage : feek
• If there is a way to shrink that taskbar down a little, I'd like. I think it's too thick. : dudehoyt
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  Watch the full PDC session on the Windows 7 Desktop, lots of the why/how: http://channel9.msdn.com/pdc200... : Carnivac
  • this was cool : retarded talking dinosaur
• When does it come out. : Clay
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  Right Click. Properties. Display Options. Windows Classic. Apply. : twifosp
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    I would use that, but it messes up some applications I use. : SlamDunk
    • Really? I'm curious as to how it does that, it's just a minimal old theme without display candy. : twifosp
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    I do not understand you people. : ColoradoCNC
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      I like minimal clean interfaces. I don't need fancy transparency or crazy transition effects. I don't l... : twifosp
      • You can disable all that from Vista Aero GUI. The reason why I would like to switch to XP classic is beca... : SlamDunk
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        i'm with you but the problem is that when you disable Aero, you disable hardware compositing - and consid... : GloriousCow
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          I don't find that to be true at all. GUI performance is not exactly taxing in the first place. : twifosp
          • it was noticeable enough to me to annoy me back to aero : GloriousCow
• SWEET. i hope they clean up the explorer UI a little more, but i am PUMPED about every new feature in tha... : retarded talking dinosaur
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  I still would like WinFS to show up. : Crimsonbeak
  • Fuck, with all the ranting from stupid developers etc about how Vista broke everything, I don't think I'd... : Arctic Fox
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    Me too, it's disappointing that there has been no mention of the new FS. I guess NTFS is good enough, I d... : pieman
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      I wish all vendors would decide on one SQL-FS, that would be nice. But apple and those wife murdering lin... : pieman
      • I think SQL filesystems are a dead-end. I think the next thing will be ZFS-alikes. They'll put something ... : jcupitt
    • WinFS is pretty much dead from what I've read. Parts of it may live on, but the whole thing will probably... : Arctic Fox
  • The other significant part of the Windows UI is Explorer. Windows 7 introduces a new concept named Librar... : pancake humper
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  i just want a solid command line interface :( : dromo5
  • Have you tried Powershell? : derelict515
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    i would love a short cut to the search bar above the the start button. Thats the only feature I really li... : filthysock
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      ... get a keyboard with a windows key, like every keyboard... : derelict515
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        this is true, but i dont want the rest of the start menu, i just want the input box. like google's deskto... : filthysock
        • http://www.launchy.net/ : Judicus
        • what? hit the windows key and type what you want and press enter. Just close your eyes and pretend the st... : derelict515
• Hm. I like the way it looks from here. But then again, I'm not a technical person. Scrapping sidebar, ... : Squirrely
• Great. More "recent" spots where evidence of porn usage can stock up. : melt_core