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• pidgin eot : Foxhawk
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  i like google talk since it also checks my gmail lol! : [fry]
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    heh same here, it's really all I use. : yosemiteclimber
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      can you use an AIM screen name with it? : edgewise
      • You can on the web-based version (on gmail.com). : crummynz
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  meebo.com isn't bad and runs in your browser. : dmason
  • ^^^ This is what I use at work. : Alco23
  • I used to use this and Trillian, but the ability to have all my contacts, set up and renamed, with all my... : crummynz
• I think Miranda is pretty light. I've gotten used to Digsby, though. : DasCracky
• Digsby got my vote! : ysbreker
• pidgin : ant_hillbilly
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  I still use miranda so I'd say miranda. very small footprinit. has tons of plugins, can be customized t... : pyide
  • Same. It takes around 10 of my memory when my list (~450 contacts) is opened up and 2mb when it's hidden.... : zehh
• pidgin : eeeealmo
• Digsby definitely. I much prefer it over Pidgin, although Pidgin is still pretty solid. : OverloadUT
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  digsby is good, but not small. requires some MS support download as well. : afrochops
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    They recently reduced the amount of memory usage quite a bit. Right now mine is taking less than 10 MB RA... : vynn
    • Really? That's pretty impressive. Close to what pidgin uses. : afrochops
    • mine is sitting at 33MB : dantastic
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  AITOO that still has CPU spiking problems with Digsby? Games are unplayable due to stuttering if I don't ... : rock elf
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    I run Digsby all the time and never have problems : OverloadUT
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      Even if others get this problem, I'm one of a dying breed of single-core CPU owners, and I bet a multi-co... : rock elf
      • Ahhh, that could be. : OverloadUT
• digsby ftw : Cheeziologist
• I use pidgin, and like it. haven't tried digsby yet. : suqur
• I use Digsby now. Not perfect but more perfecter than the others. Still waiting for the "perfect" IM cl... : indosauros
• Digsby : onji
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  honestly I can't stand any of the clients on windows. Not after using Adium atleast. They feel clunky. ... : dilutedq
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    it looks like windows? : mikecyb
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      No it really doesn't. It looks like every other cross-platform software that doesn't use the Windows API ... : OverloadUT
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        it looks like windows to me :( I use the windows classic theme though I dunno if that matters : mikecyb
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          Yeah, I am talking about classic. I haven't used Pidgin in a while though so it might be different now. : OverloadUT
          • http://mikecyb.shackspace.com/pidgin.jpg dunno, I have never had any issues with it. I guess all the ic... : mikecyb
  • Digsby is a code split of Adium; you can use any Adium skin on it. I...I think, at least. : Deathlove
• pidgin : mikecyb
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  miranda : TPSReport
  • miranda is your best for smallest footprint assuming you're using windows. : datoo
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  Pidgin! Small footprint, looks clean, and spawning a new conversation window is faster. There reall... : DrWaffles
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    Pidgin's good until you run it for weeks on end. The memory usage just creeps on up. They cop out and cla... : antareus
    • Really? I normally don't leave my computer running for extended periods of time, so I've never run into ... : DrWaffles
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      Uh, doesn't everything\/ have that problem if you run it for weeks on end? I don't mean linux or anything : Dynotaku
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        No. Desktop software should be able to be run for weeks on end without a problem. : antareus
        • Yeah, it should be able to. Doesn't mean it will. Run FireFox 2 for 4 weeks without closing it and tell m... : Dynotaku
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  Hahaha, 5 years later, and there's still no "perfect" IM client, they all suck in one way or another. : antareus
  • Exactly. : dmason
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    What would be perfect in your mind? I have the same mindset towards IM clients as well. :| : DrWaffles
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      Reliable file transfers. Every time. : indosauros
      • fucking a : spaceless
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        I've never had pidgin fail on me in the middle of a transfer. Even for a ~200MB file. :( : DrWaffles
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          It's getting them to start with some people that is my problem :( : indosauros
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            That's usually because of firewall issues and the IM protocol, no? I can't initiate a file transfer here... : DrWaffles
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              It works with some people and not with others. And then for this one friend we have to stop and start it : indosauros
              • Weird. Too bad that this is still the easiest method of sending a single large file to another person, e... : DrWaffles
              • I think part of the problem they're not 100% still is that some clients respond differently. There's a bu... : antareus
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      A few things I consider important: * Support for multiple accounts connected simultaneously. Support f... : antareus
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        What do you use currently? : zehh
        • Pidgin. Pimping time: If I had more time in the day (and didn't love guitar as much) I'd work on my c... : antareus
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    I find nothing wrong with Digsby personally. First client that I've uses that I really felt was just perf... : OverloadUT
    • I like Digsby but they have a bunch of usability issues as well as random bugs. They are fixing the bugs... : Begawkiness
  • hard to find perfect software. I've been using miranda uninterrupted for almost 10 years though so it wo... : Luminair
  • It depends on a lot of personal preferences and specific needs.. for example, some crappy protocols like ... : zehh
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    Pidgen doesn't suck at all. : Ebu
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      Doesn't use native controls, so it has redraw problems on the contact list, besides not looking quite rig... : antareus
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        Wow, you're nit-picking. Never mind, I thought this was going to be a rational discussion. : Ebu
        • Actually, someone else mentioned the fact that it doesn't use native controls in this thread, so it isn't... : antareus
  • I would switch from Trillian if I could take my custom renames over to my next client. : rosewood
• Google Talk is in my opinion the best IM client. Too bad not everyone uses it. : bozer
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  Pidgin. Definitely has a smaller footprint than Digsby. : ateam311
  • Yeah... I prefer Digsby myself by far, but Pidgin definitely has a smaller footprint and works just about... : xsoulbrothax
• Adium : Mansmells
• I just use Aim Lite http://x.aim.com/laim/ . It's a stripped down version of AIM. Has file transfer. Work... : shinta420
• Digsby. : Ride-My-Rocket
• pidgin probably is but it did too many wonky things. Digsby has been releasing new versions in the past ... : dantastic
• still the best: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/lizsun/Blog/communication.jpg : deathmuppeter
• look at what you've done edgewise. : xsoulbrothax
• digsby still randomly loses messages (msn/yahoo), thankfully they finally acknowledge it happens, maybe I... : kelerian
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  Miranda is what you want if you want a really light client that's very very customizable. Pidgin is what... : boarder2
  • I don't find Adium to be at all better or worse than Pidgen. : Ebu

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  I'm sure that cat can't wait to eat hisself a nice juicy baby. : MagicWishMonkey
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    My brother told me a story the other week about his girlfriend's friend's husband. Apparently this guy... : Haxim
    • i've heard this story before except it was a snake instead of a cat : electroly
    • LOL, sounds like something straight off of snopes.com. : antareus
    • This sounds like totalt bullshit. : bundy
    • Bwahahaha no. : MatzL.E.
    • Oh what the fuck. : A Sponge
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      Didn't we discuss this like 2 weeks ago? : the_burd
      • that was a post about a snake : PapaBoo
    • Your brother's girlfriend's friend's husband's vet? : rock elf
    • hahahahahahahaha : virus
• Well if they have to choose they should keep the cat. : Wombat Woo
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  I've heard about dogs getting jealous about newborns, not sure about cats. As long as they make sure the ... : Snuffles-
  • lol : indosauros
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    I read that as dongs :( : PapaBoo
    • Well, that would be true too! : Snuffles-
  • Dongs do get jealous of newborns. The husband's dong. : EvilDolemite
  • bwahahaha nice : proclone1
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  They should keep the cats, keep the baby safe from gnomes that will try and suck the breath from it at ni... : randomnull
  • trolls too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cFNbrPLx4 : randomnull
  • ^^^^^^^^^^^^ god that movie scared me : proclone1
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  We have 4 cats and a 3 month old baby. They have mostly ignored each other. http://bp3.blogger.com/_M... : skilesare
  • Looks like the cat is learning to imitate the baby, and eventually replace it. : DarkWolf5
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  what the fuck is this post : orgcaptainnemo
  • let me put it in terms you'll understand: IT'SAPOSTABOUTCATSANDBABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 : PapaBoo
  • PapaBoo makin shit up agin. : steelsamurai
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  Definitely get rid of the cats. They will steal the baby's breath at night. : CapnChaos
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    WTF is with this old wives tale bullshit? : Hiro
    • didnt u seel sleepwalkers? good god, man! : whereiwannab
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  Anecdotal evidence: The cat I grew up with - who was about 8 when I left for college - was awesome wit... : mafu5150
  • some cats are pretty chilled out. mostly, if the kid is too crazy, the cat will just constantly hide from... : Antilles_Prime
• What the fuck is this stealing breath shit? Have you guys gone Korean on me? : ShekkyBoy
• nope not at all. They're overreacting IMO. we have 3 cats - 2 older, 1 still a kitten. When we brought... : beastrabban
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  Oh god, I can't stand idiotic parents like that. They should be mauled by rabid cats. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • I just sent an e-mail telling him I think they are over-reacting. : PapaBoo
• Nah, I wouldn't sweat it. At most, they might wanna keep an eye on the cats and baby when they are in the... : WildDanimal
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  Wouldn't want a baby to get that cat disease that alters your personality. Forgot what it's called. : Penis Brittle
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    Toxoplasmosis? Heh, don't make the baby clean the cat box. : WildDanimal
    • what else is he supposed to eat from? : PapaBoo
    • But what if the cat steps on his shit and proceeds to walk around the house, leaving his poop disease all... : Penis Brittle
  • It would probably be an improvement anyway. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • mad cat disease ? : PapaBoo
• You didn't know this but people should generally bring home blankets that the newborn was in from the hos... : kaijuseijin
• I have friends who have 3 kids (about to have a 4th, actually) and there have been cats around since they... : zakk
• Cat + Baby Menz TLDR: I'm making some fucked up chinese food tonight : Delaric
• I grew up with our cat Mike, along with my two sisters(Triplets). This poor cat put up with so much abuse... : Danny5225
• free tip to people going to have babbys. take a small clean towel with you to the hospital and put it in ... : CoRDS
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  I saw a movie where the parents thought a cat was trying to suffocate the baby but come to find out the c... : chuck577
  • real movie ----> http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18171340#itemanchor_18171340 : Hiro
  • movie: Cats eye : crunkfunk
• When I was born, we had 11 cats. Seriously. I'm still quite alive. : kallanta
• MAKE SURE YOU TURN OFF ALL FANS OVERNIGHT TOO TO AVOID FANDEATH!!!! : mindfk
• My sister's cats adore my niece. They would lay next to her all the time when she was an infant. Now that... : zerog83
• what a weird thing to worry about. My sister-in-law's cat does just fine with my neice. And she's a crab... : pukerat
• We had no problems. The baby room was taboo for the cat even before our son was born, though. We always ... : MatzL.E.

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• Don't be playa-hatin' : c0bra
• you're son didn't like my pic? :( : whistletits
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  Phil you made a crucial mistake here. : Evil Benius
  • Yeah, what the fuck. Is he getting lazy or something? : Bamtan
• http://www.gaiaonline.com/info/whatisgaia/?_gaia_t_=696 habbo hotel, second life, etc. it's not so much a... : cpt_gloval
• pix of girl : Iwannaacura
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  Do I need to even remind you to post the pics of the 24 year old chick with blue hair and pushed out tits... : HojuSimpson
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    It will be done in Evening Reading. : Phil
    • It better be, otherwise I'm gonna lose a lot of respect for you. :( : ColoradoCNC
    • seriously man. posting this without pics? FOR SHAME : AMikaboshi
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  this sounds dangerously close to 4chan. DON'T LET 4CHAN HAPPEN TO YOUR KIDS : dirge23
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    Oh shit I had /b/ in my history file on my touch the other day and thankfully they passed right by it. : Phil
    • what is /b/? : agentlead
  • Oh come on, I was exposed to 4chan like material from a young age and I turned out...DO NOT LET 4CHAN HAP... : Evil Benius
  • pics of wife "shitting all over kitchen" sounds a 4chan post : whereiwannab
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    You mean 7chan, at least 4chan mostly avoids illegal porn : locater16
    • 4chan teaches you that there are worse things than illegal porn. : cerealSAM2
• Sounds like you raised him well Phil, good work sir. : Xanthos
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  whats the over/under on him getting a chick knocked up by 18? : maulla
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    I'm sure Phil secretly microwaves his balls each night to keep that from happening. : MagicWishMonkey
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      (so if he does get a chick preggers the baby will explode out of her baby alien-style and run off before ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        ... i don't think thats how that works : fletch_
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          how do you know? are you a testicle scientist? : MagicWishMonkey
          • just an amateur enthusiast : fletch_
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    The oldest one, 100/1 odds. The middle one 80/1. Now the youngest one, it's about 3/1. He's crazy. ... : Phil
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      haha you have not lived until you've talked to a 14 year old girl for 20 minutes : mikecyb
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        (shortly after which you will want to fucking die) : mikecyb
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          haha yeah. i'm sure she was nervous and all that, but just trying to talk simple sentences was a chore f... : Phil
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            Just show her your shack post history and tell her, "see what a retard I am? You can't top that so stop t... : Skoal^Fyfan
            • you're a douche bag : fishbone
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          The secret is to stuff her mouth. *awkward silence* : Evil Benius
          • MFF GFF *choke* MWAH GWUFF... : coldfusioncs
    • Try having a classroom full of them. It's comedy gold. But then you start crying, because you want the : Rice-Rocketeer
  • You're not doing it right. : action wombmate
• so... where is the pic? : themelon
• I can't believe you guys are even questioning Phil. That's like questioning Jesus if he can walk on water... : bozer
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  How do you even pronounce that? Gay-ah? Guy-uh? Stupid jap crap. : Trips
  • i'd assume "guy-ah" : electroly
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    gaia is greek. what's an ethnic slur for greek? : dirge23
    • greekans. : moe6
    • Spartans. : lightly inclined
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      I'm sure the Italians know a few. : c0bra
      • not as many as the turks : dirge23
    • Fratboys. : A Sponge
    • looks like anime to me : Trips
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      lazy bastards : Yanks
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        I speak from experience, I was in Greece and they work so very little. It looked like a sweet life! : Yanks
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          Yeah, once you figure out how to ignore all of the crumbling infrastructure, lack of proper plumbing, dan... : Vantage
          • Yep, that was Athens! : Yanks
          • You make this sound like a bad thing. : stump
          • Putting used toilet tissue in a bin in the bathroom and leaving it there until the maid comes in the morn... : Snuffles-
        • The greeks have a month long holiday in either october or november where they get drunk and have sex with... : Ace417
    • greasy : nodebug
    • Racial slurs for Greeks, taken from the Racial Slur Database (http://www.rsdb.org/): Bubble Greeks "Bu... : acidnynex
    • sodomites : gmd
    • They're is none because we're so awesome. : sammyl
    • Olive eaters. : nevicata
    • Isn't calling them Greek bad enough? : Dynotaku
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      Fags... : dedgecko
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        Shouldn't you be playing CoH? Leave the poor Greeks alone, Jerry's out there! : nevicata
        • speaking of which - holy shit! Last night toth, tristam, medster, and myself enjoyed an epic game on Mon : dedgecko
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    This post makes you look kinda dumb, considering it's not japanese :( : OverloadUT
    • Only kinda though : OverloadUT
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  The site is basically a huge forum with a mask of RPG elements (I think they were implementing some sort ... : DHAvatar
  • Number 1: http://www.big-boards.com/ The forum is...stupid enough to kill brain cells. : Nixx2004
• You should tell him Obesity will one day overtake other public health issues such as infectious diseases ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  so when is your oldest going to start posting here? or is he too busy banging out hot highschoolers? : feek
  • his personality is so completely different from mine. he wouldn't last a day on here. : Phil
• I'm totally signing up. this is SWEET : Slowtreme
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  I remember reading some story about Gaia online somewhere. It's kind of like second life or something, on... : DerHuhnTeufel
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    Because otherwise you're going to have 2 introverted fat kids who are into ninjas and the like. : DerHuhnTeufel
    • lol : Phil
  • G-potatoes??? : GloriousCow
• buahah secret high-fives all around : timaste
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  Pix+divx of blue pushed out tits girl omg plz srsly : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Yeah I'll get it tonight and post it up. From the 2 seconds I saw it, looked like she was kinda hot. : Phil
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      myspace'd? flattering picture of someone who is not flattering fat : dedgecko
      • So... Phil : Hot :: Normal people : ??? : MercFox1

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  there's always Hello Kitty Online : electroly
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    Victory! : freakynipples69
    • Only if you use your shackname. : nevicata
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  You can always hope for the KOTOR MMO to come out sooner? : cjcharv
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    It's the only MMO that I'm waiting for thus far. And maybe Blizzard's unannounced MMO, but I have a stron... : freakynipples69
    • I hope that it's an MMORTS : Richese
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  Maybe, just maybe...it's YOU! ;) : Bamii
  • waka waka. : freakynipples69
  • Nope. Agreed on the WAR count, haven't played WoW and I never will. : DrFlammable
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  War is awesome but I keep on rolling new characters and playing tier 1 stuff. I lost all interest in WoW... : Wombat Woo
  • You still playing Vanguard? Is there still a shackguild? : geneshifter
• KOTOR MMO reveal = Oct 21st : Richese
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  If I never play an MMO again I will die happy and content. That KoTOR crap won't even be able to bring me... : pyide
  • I play WoW, but I know that all I really want is Diablo 3. WOE : yAak
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  Diablo 3. :( : DrFlammable
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    Diablo 3. :) : das_runt
    • until you have to buy a copy of the game for each class. : NeoMoose
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    Too bad it's not out until 2009/11/24. :( : stump
    • Don't remind me. FUCK. This is how I felt about Super Smash Brothers Brawl. I was all like "This is gonna... : DrFlammable
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  go outside. : Theos
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    what the fuck is "outside" : freakynipples69
    • I think it's the place where bears are : halophoenix
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  Darkfall : shortbuscaptain
  • Looks like another shadowbane in the works imho :( : Visceral Monkey
• I hear gaiaonline is where all the hot chicks play... and 12 yr olds... : dedgecko
• how about a game that isn't an MMO? : deject
• EQ2 : Ebu
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  LITTLEBIGPLANET beta ended. :( Why did I even bother waking up today? : Boxelder
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    Your level was mean, btw. :) : nevicata
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      Yeah, i retuned it to make it a little easier after watching some people play it. Did you make the long ... : Boxelder
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        I watched my husband play it. I think he made the long jump? I can't remember that part, I just remember ... : nevicata
        • I learned a lot making that level about what people do and don't want. Being able to make something and ... : Boxelder
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  For PvE, trial the Vanguard free trial. http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/ No PvP though,... : Visceral Monkey
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    Pvp is the only way to play a mmo. : Iwannaacura
    • What makes you say that? PvP is fun but PvE can be fun, too. I greatly enjoy PvE. : electroly
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      Not at all. Each has advantages and disadvantages. A well designed PvP game is fun and so is a well desig... : Visceral Monkey
      • Ignoring the logistical aspects of an mmo, from what I've seen the difference between PvP and PvE is this... : walker270
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      /rng based pvp is inherently stupid. : johnny rotten
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        It's only /rng based pvp to people who suck at it. : walker270
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          Your as wrong as he is. It fall's somewhere between. Even the "Pro" matches have been said to have been... : ahk-med
          • I really, really don't think he was referring to the professional scene. People around here tend to at... : walker270
• Dude. Mount and Blade. Dooooooo it... : Delaric
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  WOLTK : [7]kami
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    Jesus. You do realize there's much more out there than a fucking expansion pack for a game that the OP sa... : ateam311
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      I think you're doing well at tricking yourself into thinking WAR in it's current state is a better game t : royalally
      • outside of the raids whate xactly does wow have thatw ar doesnt? flying mounts and fishing? War has more ... : italiano3d
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  Well you could stop playing MMO's and try something else? You don't HAVE to play just MMO's. : kainen1
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    now that i've played an MMO for a long period of time, any time i play a regular game i end up thinking t... : electroly
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      Diablo 3 would not be better as an MMO. >:( TF2 would not be better... oh wait. : DrFlammable
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        TF2 would totally work as a hybrid PvE/PvP MMO. LF2M MEDIC, PYRO (MUST HAVE UNLOCKS + KNOW FIGHTS) : electroly
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          haha i was referring to how some people call tf2 a mmo cause of the unlocks. : DrFlammable
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            yeah, they're already halfway there! :) : electroly
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              I thought the key to an mmo was massive persistent worlds. Not just regular deathmatch servers all comple... : TheNiXXeD
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                the persistent world is the other half. ;) MMOs can still work and be heavily instanced though : electroly
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                  i guess but i think this might be why i hated guild wars. not sure though. something just didn't click wi... : DrFlammable
                  • I'm not really saying TF2 would be a good MMO, but I could certainly see it. I just can't help myself fr... : electroly
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          +4 strength, +4 stam rocket belt? AGGGH UGGGGGHHH : kainen1
          • LFG 4 DUSTBOWL RAID, PST. : DrFlammable
          • WTF?! +8 Intellect Soldier Helmet? Vendor trash. : the_burd
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      why though? just the ever ending quest of loot and status, the drive to have the most leet gear and noto... : kainen1
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        Twofold: 1) the feeling of progress when you accomplish things. when you win in TF2, that's it, you ge... : electroly
        • part of the appeal is being able to just jump in and play a few rounds, not worrying about your level 1 p... : DrFlammable
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          Have you played ET:QW? : geedeck
          • yup, and i greatly enjoy it. wish i didn't suck so badly though :) : electroly
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            isn't that per-map based though? : DrFlammable
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              i dunno about multiplayer but in the single player campaign your unlocks and rank-ups carry over from map... : electroly
              • I liked the way BF2 handled it frankly. You unlock a weapon and you got to use it from then on, unless y... : deject
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          1) You're not going to get much sense of progress playing on Random Pub #2358023 in most multiplayer game... : omnova
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            which speaking of, you guys all go play in some locked server now, what gives? :( : kainen1
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              I'll tell you when I get home in an hour. Felraiser yelled at me the other day for mentioning it here. : omnova
              • leet tf2 players only : DrFlammable
      • i wonder if/when/what developer will discover than an MMO doesn't have to be like this... and then actual... : das_runt
• Sounds like a slipknot song from their latest album. : chungathebunga
• I'm realizing I hate MMOs too. Fuck this shit where you start off all weak and gay and take 4 god damned ... : snuff
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  Warhammer is better if you don't play with shackers. We're a bunch of unorganized pricks : wykd
  • You forgot whining : walker270
  • Honestly playing on the shack server with the shack guild hasn't been any different from the other 2 serv... : DrFlammable
• Play some team fortress 2. :D : Maddog_Delphi97

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• man can't wait for Windows 7, Internet Explorer 8, Office 13 14 : metalremains
• Windows 7-11 : Sailor of Fortune
• i prefer version numbers over year of release anyway. so good for them. : Mmmmmoo
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  Wha-what's in the OS? : obiquatro
  • haahahaah.. I sense an upcoming YTMND. : the archvile
  • Mojave : capt tripps
• better than osex : Flynn
• eh could be worse. Vista is a pretty terrible name anyways. : nomaad
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  I think/hope Windows 7 is gonna be great simply because Vista is so bad. (The "Windows ME" factor) : DOOManiac
  • really, and this is coming from the most giganticnormous Mac advocate on the damned site, Vista ISN'T tha... : Toraz Chryx
  • they say right in the link that their whole plan is to stay like vista. : Luminair
• better then using some animal name or equally retarded random word : graceofdragons
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  "The seventh release"? Windows 1 (I know this existed, dunno if it was public) Windows 2 (same) Wind... : Zero|DPX
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    4: 95, 98 and me are lumped together 5: 2000, xp and 2003 6: Vista : thecray
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      2000, XP and Vista were NT5. Don't forget that Vista is from the NT line, and that the DOS/Win3.1 etc ... : rosewood
      • But the major version number on Vista is 6. : antareus
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        But the NT line started with Windows NT 3; there wasn't an NT 1 or 2 AFAIK. NT 3 NT 4 Windows 2000 ... : Zero|DPX
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          Oh, forgot NT 3.5 : Zero|DPX
          • and 3.51 : Fyunch Click
        • Ok, NT3, NT4, Win2k, Win XP, Win2k3, Vista, Windows 7 = the 7th * (I'm not counting Win2k8 just to get... : rosewood
      • Vista and WS08 are NT6. : cltcprd
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    My current version of Vista is Version 6.0.6001 : rosewood
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      I don't have an XP box handy but my 2k3 box is 5.2.3790 And Win2k was NT5 so that should give you ins... : rosewood
      • XP was NT 5.1 : rock elf
      • 3,1: NT 3.1 3.5: NT 3.5 3.51: NT 3.51 4.0: NT 4.0 5.0: 2000 5.1: XP, WS2003 5.2: WS2003 6.0: Vista... : Schnapple
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_windows#Timeline_of_releases : airrob
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  slight hijack: Will you be buying Windows 7 on release or will you wait a while...(obviously depends on m... : niceguynick
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    way too early for me to say : MikkleThePickle
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      whens it due out anyway? : niceguynick
      • mid 2009 IIRC : MikkleThePickle
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    Always wait a least a year for new tech. Early adopters almost always get screwed. : walker270
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      I agree completely. I adopted Vista pretty early on because I bought a new PC with Vista pre-loaded, and... : Rotten Deadite
      • Vista was "bad" at launch only because 3rd party support was lacking. I never had an issue with the actu... : cltcprd
  • MS will probably have things better ready on 3rd party side this time around at launch. : Sailor of Fortune
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    I'm already holding out on Vista; probably won't think about getting it until SP2. : the archvile
    • sp2 is windows 7 : dantastic
  • yes : cltcprd
  • I'm very happy with Vista. Whether or not I upgrade will depend on reviews really. : OverloadUT
  • Well, considering they've said that since Vista was so abrasive at first, they're going to make sure 'Sev... : Shivawn
  • I'll buy it first day but I sorta have to with my business : redfive
  • buddy of mine at says he's using it in the office and he likes it. i'm hoping to get my hands on the beta... : cpt_gloval
  • If it has any worthwhile features, sure. Compatibility is also a huge factor, especially at work. : nomaad
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    If it is not Vista 2, yes. If it is, probably not. : Yanks
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      Actually let me expand on this. If it's a "Snow Leopard" style release (focus on install size, and perfor... : Yanks
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        that can be fixed in a Service Pack : redfive
        • Sure, but if something needs a full overhaul, usually that kind of development time is delegated to the n... : Yanks
      • There was a recent blog post or article recently about some UAC changes : derelict515
  • since Alan Wake will be Windows 7, Directx 11 exclusive, i have no choice : deviantpaul
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    i don't think i'll ever be as excited for a windows OS release as i was for windows xp. i'll wait on this... : Mmmmmoo
    • http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/features/2001/08-24windowsxprtm_l.jpg : Mmmmmoo
    • I actually stuck it out with that piece of crap winME because gaming was a tad slower on WinXP during its... : pap26
  • If there's no issues with my applications running (everything I have that works in Vista 64) I probably w... : nukewinter
  • I will get it if there is a special lower (WAY lower) price for those of us who run Vista. I took the plu... : Schnapple
• Windows Craps! : cerealSAM2
• As long as it also have 15 billion different versions, like Vista, I'm ok with it. : zehh
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  it is misleading when he implies that they are debuting a previously-secret new product. windows 7 is ... : Luminair
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    no, not really : cltcprd
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      yes really. two years since vista came out and there is no guarantee they've actually put two years of w... : Luminair
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        ok, you've obviously seen internal builds... : cltcprd
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          you don't need to have insider information to know that microsoft is constrained by the same physical lim... : Luminair
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            this would imply that they stopped after Vista, which they did not. their development is on an ongoing b... : electroly
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              that is what I said. they've been working on it for a year or two. two if they knew exactly where they ... : Luminair
              • before Vista was announced : cltcprd
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                vista was announced in 2005. they were working on windows 7 before that. i follow msdn blogs, too. : electroly
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                  haha you are sure of yourself. you should try windows 7 m1 to see for yourself if it looks like 3-4 year... : Luminair
                  • In MS' defense, M1 was about 8 months ago and you generally don't see UI changes until much later -- but ... : Yanks
                  • m1 doesn't contain much. And that was a long time ago. : cltcprd
                  • i never claimed that they've made noticeable user-level progress in that time. i'm just saying they have... : electroly
                  • Because if the UI hasn't changed then nothing has... : derelict515
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        do you actually know anything about Windows 7 or are you just making shit up speculating? : electroly
        • no need to answer because i already know which one it is. do you seriously think the windows team has be... : electroly
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        The development team for Vista was probably working on Windows 7 before Vista was even released. : walker270
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          More like Windows 7 will try to realize some of the things that were cut from Vista. Seriously, Vista ... : Tommy Toolbag
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            Vista's bad reputation makes the software a dead-end. Trying to change a product's reputation, even if u... : walker270
            • Yeah, I agree there. : Tommy Toolbag
      • lol....okay : ColoradoCNC
  • Well except that it's not : OverloadUT
  • Vista is damn near at its two year mark already. Windows 7 isn't out yet. Even then each version of windo... : rosewood
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    It is misleading when you're passing judgment on a product that has not yet been finalized. : DrWaffles
    • "Finalized" in the sense that it's not yet out the door. I suppose an OS is never really finalized as it... : DrWaffles
• Should be called Windows NT 7 (or 6.1 really from what I've seen). : Dalant
• 7th time's the charm. Here's hoping it doesn't suck. : windowpane
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  The OS is pretty irrelevant to me these days. At home I rarely run anything other than a web browser and ... : rock elf
  • yup. for many, the OS organizes pictures, stores/syncs/downloads music and runs the web browser. this is ... : epit
• Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 (Seven) Ultimate Home Pro Live! Network Tuesday Edition SP2 : 60days
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  So 95 was a true new version and so was XP and Vista, they're 2 short. They're not including 98 and ME ar... : Dynotaku
  • Guess I should read the whole thread first. : Dynotaku
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    95 was Windows 4 XP was Windows 5 Vista was Windows 6 : cltcprd
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      2000 was windows 5, xp was 5.1. : electroly
      • bingo : CoRDS
      • I was going by major versions. : cltcprd
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18174259 : airrob
• Windows 7 before DNF ? : sikander
• But...But... I promised the widow Mantle I would name my child Seven! I thought they agreed on Soda!? : mrvandelay
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  I wish they'd make it their goal to reduce memory use by 50%, increase performance by 100%. Strip out jun... : steelsamurai
  • memory utilization is good : _jon
  • Yeah, but most people don't know what the "memory usage" column in task manager means, unfortunately. Hin... : antareus
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  so is there any reason to upgrade to this when its out? new file system, or is it just a new front end th... : spaceless
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    No one really knows yet, not much information is public, ask again later. : Goncyn
    • so is there any reason to upgrade to this when its out? new file system, or is it just a new front end th... : CoRDS
  • it's 7 times better. : _jon
  • I'm not upgrading my operating system until I can no longer do the things I want to do with WinXP. Or unl... : Ellissd
• The confusing part is that the version numbers on builds seen so far are 6.1... : Goncyn

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• that's a bunch of shit : drucifer
• have you talked to your insurer? Make a comprehensive claim and get it fixed, and make sure that your ins... : Dante
• Is your insurance company involved? : jeolson
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  It's total bullshit. Force your insurance to fight for you. A friend of mine had to do this after the per... : Fred Garvin
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    Seriously. You called your insurance company as soon as it happened, right? Don't take that shit from the... : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Speaking from experience. at this point all you can do is eat your deductible and get a check from your i... : Slowtreme
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        That depends on the companies and you. My friend pushed his insurance and got what he wanted. : Fred Garvin
        • Once you accept their money, they will try again to recoup. But still... : Slowtreme
      • Not necessarily, they may still subrogate for the money, which will put pressure on the asshole to either... : Thresher
      • the problem is that the damage is only like $500 which is roughly what my deductible is. it's more out of... : -Panther-
• Insurance companies only respond to lawyers otherwise they will screw you at every possible opportunity. : Blackdawgg
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  Did you have a police report? : skitzo
  • Seriously, the police should have come out, technically it was a hit and run. : skitzo
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  sue the drunk for the full value of your loss, the insurance company will probably have a duty to defend ... : heff
  • wait, why would his insurance defend him in a civil suit if they found a way of breaking their agreement ... : -Panther-
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  lawyer, STAT. classic insurance company tactic is delay delay delay until the "victim" gets frustrated o... : beastrabban
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    Well, knowing Allstate, that's always possible. But I can tell you from an insurance adjuster's perspect... : Thresher
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      note to self: never cooperate : FrayLo
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        Problem is, if sued, he has to pay his own defense costs and any judgment against him out of his own pock... : Thresher
        • Not if he goes to the Peoples Court or Judge Judy. : skitzo
        • damn you and your logic. i'll just flee the country next time then : FrayLo
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  Yes, it is. Their insured has a responsibility to cooperate in their investigation, it's part of the pol... : Thresher
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    insurance is such a fucking scam. : .sticks.
    • Its called legalized extortion : skitzo
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      Wait a minute. If I enter into a contract with my insurance company, they take on the obligation to pay ... : Thresher
      • Then whats the point of having insurance if you can get around the whole system by not participating, sou... : skitzo
      • well to be fair, having car insurance is the law in many states, and then when someone tries to make a cl... : FrayLo
      • I agree with you in a case where the guy doesn't cooperate with them, but I think the fact that all drunk... : -Panther-
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  THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T GET A POLICE REPORT : Slowtreme
  • ^^ always call the cops : deadfish
  • I have a police report. I even have a video of him driving around all goofy before heading down the ramp. : -Panther-
• Wow, what a bizarre occurance. : ColoradoCNC
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  now's the time to get your insurance company invovled and they will fight it for you. I hope you have a ... : cncpun
  • not on sight, but at least report it at a collision center or the police office : cncpun
  • there would be records of police intervention as well, plus the bottle of vodka, it's probably going to c... : cncpun
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  Allstate is a bunch of puppy-raping motherfucking shit stain Janus-faced assholes who tell you one thing ... : geedeck
  • they're one of the big guys, I always thought they were good. I always thought it was the little fly-by-n... : -Panther-
• so the question now is whether I go after this guy individually since when I make my declaration to his i... : -Panther-

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• I know i'm a consumer whore. =( : brickmatt
• I agree. The new keyboards suck ass. : g0nk
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  What is MBP? Male bald pattern? : kainen1
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    MacBook pro. : brickmatt
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      You really are an apple whore now aren't you? :) I'm the nerdy guy in the PC commercials i think. : kainen1
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        I'll still have my of desktop but I think apple is getting a lot right. : brickmatt
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          Rule of Thumb- OS X: Laptop. Win: Desktop. Everyone should roll like this. : senseimoron
          • +1 unless you can afford a mac pro. : Neech
  • MicroBigPlanet : festivalman
  • ManBearPig : the archvile
  • Maarten Buttsex Poptarts : fathertime
  • My Bleeding Pussy : prime8
• dead space has me super excited. : xxiv
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  the old keyboards weren't actually metal : manero
  • Yeah buy they were much cooler than the standard cheap feeling black plastic laptop kb. : brickmatt
  • I hope with their new laser process or whatever they can cut metal keys out of the aluminum. That would b... : ventro
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  dead space looks keen : mikecyb
  • I've tried to mostly stay in the dark so it's a surprise. : brickmatt
• I thought this was a little big planet question. : geneshifter
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  I like the Macbook Air keyboard. While I also like he MBP keyboard, I'm not bummed or anything about abou... : Serpico74
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    I was just playing with the Air and the Pro keyboard at the mall, and I like the Pro so much more. =( I'... : brickmatt
    • I definitely prefer the Air keyboard to the Pro one now that I've used the Air one for a while. the Pro k... : warpdude
    • Try it for more than five minutes. I can't imagine going back. Even for gaming I use an aluminum keyboard... : Fayk
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  I'm hoping for a significant GPU upgrade, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen: http://blog... : MaxPete82
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    no offense, but if you're buying a high-end laptop to play "newer games", you are buying the wrong thing.... : ]pm[chem
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      You're forced into buying the wrong thing because the right thing simply isn't there. Most of us just wa... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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        er, except for crap like SLI laptops, the MBP will be as good as or better than any PC laptop. : ]pm[chem
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          That's completely false. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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            Note the doubling and tripling of the MacBook Pro scores by non-SLI configurations. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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              man what, all that stuff "tripling" the score is SLI. I guess if you want to put a 9800M GTX (best widel... : ]pm[chem
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                51. 8600 M GT, scoring 3347 in 3DMark06. There are fifty better choices. The 8800M GTS, 8800M GTX,... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                  uh the new MBP (as in tomorrow) is going to have at east the 9600M GT. please don't be comparing to a ra... : ]pm[chem
                  • I didn't know you comparing the stuff that's coming out tomorrow. (Seriously.) The 9600M scores 5000. ... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                  An extremely cheap gaming laptop: http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3273&p=1 : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                    yes a 1.67 GHz "gaming" laptop with single channel memory, phear. : ]pm[chem
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                      What the hell is your problem? I'm pointing out that your statement is wrong with basic benchmarks. It'... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                        And just to be clear, I really want to buy a MBP, I just have to have a faster video card for the kind of... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                          what kind of work : ]pm[chem
                          • Graphics programming. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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                      Don't be ignorant. Games are GPU driven. And the GPU is a beast. Not to mention a CPU upgrade is about as... : boomstickah
                      • not all games are GPU limited. Civ4, for instance. also a CPU upgrade on a laptop may be quite differen... : ]pm[chem
• I can't stand the older keyboards now that I'm on a Macbook : chiisu81
• i want a 13" Macbook pro damnit :( : jayares
• I hope they will sell the Pro with SSD. well i'm pretty sure they will but i hope it's reasonable. : Neech