Cell Processor Shrinking to 45nm in 2009, Paves Way for PS3 Price Cuts

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• Looking at stuff on the web, I think Sony has their own fab for making the Cell. Other than that, I woul... : IndigoAK
• IBM is a joint partner with Sony in the Cell architecture, so I'd imagine they would be the fabricators. ... : carbontree
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  Actually, Intel just came out with this technology. It's supposed to actually increase performance, drain... : tromboneguy099
  • I hope this is sarcasm. Intel didn't invent this technology at all, nor were they the first company to u... : IndigoAK
• I'm pretty sure Toshiba is the chip manufacture of the PS3s cell processor. : disparate
• actually I hear the 22nm process uses the same fab/masks etc. as the 45nm process. pretty good deal for i... : hirez
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  Alright, replying to my own post ... I still don't see from the replies to my post how moving to a sma... : m0rb
  • The unit of production for chip fab is not the chip, it's the wafer. If you can get more chips off the wa... : jcupitt
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  Sony had a plant which they sold off last year, not a great sign of confidence. : Endymion_
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    Psst Microsoft and Nvidia don't own the fabs where their chips are made either. Not a great sign of conf... : theflux
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      Microsoft has never created a new chip for multipurpose use and then attempted to push it on other vendor... : Endymion_
      • And yet all of the partners who developed the Cell are still using it. Toshiba for their TVs and DVD pla... : theflux

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  You just answered your own question, the Blu-Ray Diodes. : mchart
  • Last I checked on ThinkGeek, their blue laser pointer was $1,000. Compare that to the green laser pointer... : JimRune
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  Seriously ...are you kidding me? You obviously have no idea the differences between the two in hardware a... : JN25WIL
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    PSN and Xbox Live has nothing to do with hardware costs. A proprietary hard drive is not cheaper, and... : markusarv
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      The 360 doesn't use an existing processor he's wrong. : Mansmells
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        In a way it does, it's nothing much but PPC based processor - where-as CELL was new design from ground-up... : droveri
        • Yes but it wasn't an existing chip as he said. It was designed and created specifically for the 360. T... : Mansmells
        • The CBE is also PPC based. In fact both chips share a common ancestor and the PPU in the PS3 is almost e... : binaryc
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          You mean the Cell was a "new PPC based processor?" Because, it is. : Endymion_
          • It was a new POWER based processor, not PPC. : droveri
  • If it's anything like Psone or 2, it'll be a system worth owning for the long haul... which unlike it's c... : Pneum0
  • This post is full of cluelessness. : Endymion_
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  Hmmmm. XBox 360 Premium lacks what? Free WiFi. XBox360's WiFi? $100.00. XBox360's 60gig HD? Probably anot... : 3dchipset
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    The 100$ WiFi is overpriced. It's that expensive in part because it is external and in part because it's ... : markusarv
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      I think it's little things here and there. The card readers that the 360 doesn't have, the extra usb port... : gibolas1234
      • Yes, I think you are right. They weren't as disciplined as they should have been with cost control. I don... : markusarv
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    Wifi, get a cheap wifirouter for $30. Again features that most people might not need, and if they do, the... : droveri
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      I don't know anybody with a current gen console that doesn't use WiFi to get it online. Most people just... : Frank_Mackey
      • I have all the current consoles (and all of last) and I don't use WiFi to get online. I renovated my town : Endymion_
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  There might be a difference with GPU as the 360 was made by ATi but MS keeps the licensing right to it (s... : Sailor of Fortune
  • Yes, Microsoft had a fallout with Nvidia. I don't know what type of contract Sony has with them now, bu... : markusarv
• Blu-ray player = #1 reason But also you don't need buy a Wi-Fi adapter (if you use it, which I do) or ... : phinn
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  bluray artificially raises the ps3 price because there would be a bluray reader manufacturers outcry if t... : derean
  • What you're describing is illegal in most countries. : theflux

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  My thoughts exactly. The curvy looks aren't good, I am in favour of more elegant "HiFi" like clean look. ... : droveri
  • The PS2 had a certain "IBM" look to it... if you like that kind of thing... : Jobos
• You know you love that sexy negro cadillac. : SkeezPimp
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  Uh what? It certainly is the most attractive console out there, the curvyness is a bit much but it looks ... : phinn
  • All the consoles except the Wii are way to big for my liking and as mentioned both are designed so that t... : FTY
  • It looks terrible, like a bad 60s mod art that went out of style in 1971. : Endymion_
• they need inverted curves, much more calming : derean
• Dunno, all those die shrinks don't seem to have helped the white turd 360 case. "Its based around an i... : theflux

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• No plans for that yet. Valhalla will be out in about a year, and will combine the CPU and GPU onto a sing... : Bold

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  WIPEOUT for $20. : Vegtro
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    he said worth $60 ;) which probably means he wants a AAA game : flasher 907
    • I'd pay $60 for Wipeout. : pyrogen
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  I hear you like weiner. : austere01
  • you want my email or something? : Wshmaster0
• Metal Gear Solid is worth at least that. : Pneum0
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  Metal Gear Solid is worth at least that. : Pneum0
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    Only game I own that's PS3 lol... I'm surviving off all my PS2 games right now.. Waiting for LBP : Wshmaster0
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      Grand Theft Auto IV? Gran Turismo? Burnout? They were all worth the money I spent on them to me. : Pneum0
      • Uncharted, Ratchet, fl0w are great. I still play Resistance, it's awesome co-op game. : grim
    • I think the PS3 is worth it just for the Blu-Ray player. : Jobos
• These kinds of things never really result in savings for the consumer. : not work safe
• Very few games seem worth $60, luckily most of my favorites aren't. Oblivion and Warhawk are $30 each. G... : phinn

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  That's this year. The shrinkage is coming in 2009. : Nick Breckon
  • Gonna be a cold winter next year! : Ebu
• add a "...right now!" to the end because all the companies mean that. : ElArabDeMagnifico

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• uhhh, no. They shrunk their chip, making it cheaper to produce and less hot, this is common over time. ... : Grandmoff