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  yeah, so was Bear Stearns. :-P : the archvile
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    *reads article* NOOOOOO! Not another bailout! Though I guess AIG was one of the few that would topple mo... : the archvile
    • Which still leaves WaMu and... ? : Ride-My-Rocket
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  Fuck. The government is not a father figure. Let shit happen. : Goncyn
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    skip to 3:30: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=176740&title=Headlines---It's-the-Stu... : the archvile
    • lol. : Goncyn
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    blah blah, there's a post like this in every thread of this nature : Richese
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      maybe there's a good reason for that : kill9
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        then please give it so we can pick it apart at the seams. : biskits
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          Because the government stepping into private matters should always be resisted and questioned so that it ... : DinK
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            Try again : Richese
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              So you're saying the government should take over every company that ever fails? That's the alternative t... : DinK
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                I didn't say that, I said that letting AIG fail would be stupid and I would add that trying to take a com... : Richese
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                  Oh christ : Serpico74
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                    how long did it take you to think of this post? : Richese
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                      About as long as it took me to figure out that you take what the media feeds you way too much. But no, : Serpico74
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                        I'm not saying that we bail them all out, I never have and never will. But I do realize the global impor : Richese
                        • Wow, you are virtually a FED mouthpiece. You really should get a job there. Now that Lehman happened all ... : Toth21
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              Lol so you think its sane for the US government to own a majority interest in one of the largest Insuranc... : Toth21
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                Letting them fail is the worse alternative, yep : Richese
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                  Thats not what I asked. : Toth21
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                    Yes it is, read again : Richese
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                      No it isn't, read it again yourself. Saying it is the better alternative for the financial system is diff... : Toth21
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                        If that was the only wait for the loan to happen, then I think it was probably a good idea and better tha... : Richese
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                          No but you sure are being a dick about this. Also why not have the government own the largest business... : Toth21
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                            lol, look at your past 20 posts or so : Richese
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                              lol, look at yours man. However, I admit I used "Are you kidding me" way too often, because its 1:30, I ... : Toth21
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                                are you kidding me? : Richese
                                • ignorance : Toth21
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                            Boeing is in trouble, so is GM, and they're actually asking the government for the same kind of help now.... : Serpico74
                            • Yeah sounds great to me. I mean the airline bailouts have fixed everything right? All the airlines are no... : Toth21
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                              I do not believe the slope is that slippery and I'm not sure why you think it is : Richese
                              • I don't either, but I do think that both the examples I gave are just as ridiculous. : Serpico74
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                                Umm because the big three are asking for $50B in loans to stimulate development? I haven't read about boe... : Toth21
                                • I knew about GM, didn't know about the rest. Boeing I made a joke about because workers are on strike and... : Serpico74
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        ignorance : Richese
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          oh thank you wise Richese for bringing your infinite wisdom to all these threads then : kill9
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            I don't think there's any reason to go over why letting AIG fail would be bad, there's plenty of articles... : Richese
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              Obviously it would be bad, nobody is saying that. I think the argument can be made that it could make thi... : phate81
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                I've seen plenty of people posting "arg! just let it happen!" : Richese
                • But he said they weren't saying it wasn't bad, which they are not. I guess the question is really which ... : DinK
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  So is the federal govt just going to nationalize every large corporation that provides value to someone, ... : jimmy_legs
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    Every too-large corporation, yes. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • goddamnit. this makes me mad. : jimmy_legs
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    If anything this is just going to make things worse in the long run. But hey in the short term it makes e... : phate81
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      How? After AIG there aren't that many large financial worth helping left : Richese
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        Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, Washington Mutual, Wachovia. All are in at least some trouble.... : the archvile
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          I thought Goldman largely pulled out of mortgages before the shit hit the fan. : Ovate
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            Sucks for them, now they actually have to compete like a normal company instead of getting free governmen... : skizl
            • Don't these companies have to pay back the money? From what I gather from my little understanding, it ... : Danny5225
• And you guys say we're a socialist county. Heh Too bad a giant health care company wasn't going under. : Tincan
• lol : silent prophet
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  This is retarded. So what the feds are just going to bail out any large corporation that is about to fail... : phate81
  • It's called a loan for a reason : Richese
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    I'm not familiar with it, but I'd guess that any private company would loathe being controlled (or majori... : the archvile
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      i think what he means is that it would encourage board members to take larger risks to make more money in... : QMS|superdave
      • It's basically a fucked up form of socialism, only the taxpayers get to see the losses rather than the ga... : phate81
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  Incoming socialism. :P : Super Sparker
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    Socialism would be so much better than this. This is corpratism at it's worst. Private entities take the... : Hiro
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      the latter part you're talking about IS socialism though! : ninjase
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        A thing is whole or it isn't the thing at all. : vigilante
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          what? the "the citizens must pay when the risk leads to failure. " is the socialist part. this is all pri... : ninjase
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            I understand that. That is what Hiro meant too. That is kinda stretching but I understand it. Soci... : vigilante
            • I know that's not what socialism "is about", but that is a socialized aspect of the current set-up, which : ninjase
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  ^^ whoever is not saying *phew* right now has no idea what the implications would have been : Yanks
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    A lot of people don't seem to understand the implications :( : Richese
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      I'm no economist but I'm guessing we will eventually have to pay the piper, no? : Horn
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        Yes, but no. In AIG's case, they have a shitton of assets and with the 'bailout' can simultaneously repay : Yanks
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          That I can wrap my head around. The other bailouts weren't loans thought, correct? : Horn
          • the bear stearns "bailout" was a loan too, jp morgan put up 30 billion in collateral to borrow 29 billion... : plat2on1
        • lehman said it had plenty of cash 6 months ago also : kill9
        • WaMu is a Savings and Loan, hence FSLIC : fatalsync
        • Oh you have to be kidding me you believe WAMU's press statement? Everyone of these companies that has fai... : Toth21
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    I know there were big implications, but at the same time, I feel a bit of schadenfreude as they all toppl... : the archvile
    • Schadenfreude is all well and good until I start getting hit by the bad stuff. : Arcanum
  • the economy here in NY would pretty much implode if AIG were to fail. people have no idea how much revenu... : creep
  • Somehow I doubt it would been the Armageddon that some claim is would be. If they did declare bankruptcy ... : magila
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  Ok after reading the loan terms I feel a little bit better. AIG is still going out of business but at lea... : phate81
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    no, this loan is never going to be fully repaid. that's why the investment and commercial banks refused ... : ]pm[chem
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      thats why the fed also took an 80% stake in the company : ninjase
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        that's entirely worthless in a business where liabilities outweigh assets : ]pm[chem
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          we need to get past the "off the cuff" stuff and get to the actual key terms here. 1) magnitude/scope ... : Downforce
          • "And now, since some douchbags undermined the real asset values of homes and the land they are on, OF COU... : ]pm[chem
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            And clearly, way bigger than the market could handle. The faulty premise here is that this is a failur... : magila
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              I guess, but a big part of the problem has been everyone NOT following the regulations. Just saying gover... : Toth21
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                Government regulation from all levels was tried already, they called it the Soviet Union. Re: Greenspa... : magila
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                  Bullshit that is completely blind. Oh and I didn't mean what you thought I mean by "regulation from all l... : Toth21
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                    Just because I said "especially those in government" doesn't mean it was only people in government who ag... : magila
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                      Very well, but I am not saying its all on his lap either. However, I think its fair to say his policies w... : Toth21
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                        The point is not that no one could see the effects, it's that the people who controlled the central autho : magila
                        • We are agreeing then but saying it differently. Your right that only the judgment of those who are in aut... : Toth21
          • Ok what you said is all well and fine, but you can't keep things going just because you want it to. If it... : Toth21
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          Of course It's not a "good deal" -- but it isn't exactly free shit for them either : ninjase
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            "The two-year loan will carry an interest rate of Libor plus 8.5 percentage points." : Toth21
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              Like I said, it's not a good deal and people don't WANT to do this, but it's not "hey guy's here's free m... : ninjase
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                Of course no one wants to do this, and it isn't free. However, it is defintely an issue of moral hazard. ... : Toth21
                • money for nothing and chicks for free : ninjase
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  also, today the congress offically changed our name from the "United States of America" to "Fascism R Us" : mrtony
  • hahahahahahaha oh boy here we go : Downforce
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    jesus fucking christ : Yanks
    • No seriously, you never feed the troll but that is such an inflammatory statement that I had to reply. wt... : Yanks
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    is the R all cute and backwards? : MagicWishMonkey
    • it wasn't at first, but due to the poor state of the economy it fell into disrepair, eventually becoming ... : kill9
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  Let the free markets commit suicide.. then at least all those "free market" bullshitters will shut the he... : jaga
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    what's funny is the Federal reserve has to make this loan because there is no market. it's awfully hard ... : mrtony
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      what in the holy fuck are you smoking, that shit is STRONG son : Downforce
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        so wait the Federal Reserve just didn't give a loan to AIG that they couldn't get from the credit markets... : mrtony
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          dude. who is going to loan out 85 BILLION to essentially a failing company with bombing credit ratings? ... : Downforce
          • you don't see a problem with giving $85 billion dollars to precisely the people that caused this mess? ... : mrtony
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            Which is why they are supposed to fail? You think any of this shit is by the book? A safety net procedure... : Toth21
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              lol, your posts are hilarious and they're all "ARE YOU KIDDING ME" : Richese
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                Yes Richese, and yours are all: IGNORANCE Good job Richese, you sure know your high ground by calli... : Toth21
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                  blarh blarh blarh bhar r ARE YOU KIDDING ME : Richese
                  • ignorance Fun game huh? Who's going to blink first though I wonder... : Toth21
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    You seem to be assuming that the point of "free markets" is to keep bad things from happening to people. ... : DinK
    • the point of free markets is that Wall Street is 10x smarter than the government. they'll always find a ... : mrtony
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      no, you seem to be assuming that I was assuming something. I said what I meant to say and was specific an... : jaga
      • You talked about the free market bullshitters shutting up. About what then? It was definitely an as... : DinK
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      wait, what? this is the ULTIMATE example of a free market. what did BofA do? saw an opportunity and got ... : Downforce
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        I would agree with you, but what you seem to be overlooking is that the government attempted to step in a : mrtony
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          the difference is the government tweaking, and actually going BALLS DEEP. they have learned not to fuck ... : Downforce
          • Only wanted to note one small thing here: I don't know you can call collusion a free market thing, becaus... : DinK
          • the thing that got me when I first read about the Great Depression is I was surprised to find that the go... : mrtony
          • Haven't been any huge accounting scandals? Well none that have been caught, but the shit going on with le... : Toth21
        • I was thinking less of stepping in and helping, and more of just general government involvement and regul... : DinK
        • Couldn't have said it better myself. : Serpico74
  • all this is hAppening cuz the lbruls in the white house is regulatin' everthang : MagicWishMonkey
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    are there really people that don't think market failures exist? : DonkeyPopsicle
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      There are people that truly believe in endless growth and that regulation hinders further progress, yes. ... : jaga
      • there's a big difference between "markets never fail" and "regulation is harmful" given a wide variety of... : DonkeyPopsicle
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    Privatized gains with socialized losses is not an example of a free market, so no not really : ninjase
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      What is it an example of? Is there a name for it? I propose Republicanism. : vigilante
      • It's an example of trying to make too many people happy with half-assed compromises and mucking everythin... : ninjase
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  whats so bad about this is it's basically a confidence scheme and a form of extortion by Wall Street. th... : mrtony
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    Or maybe there's a room full of economics PhDs poring through AIG's balance sheet and doing due diligence... : Ovate
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      economists accountants : MagicWishMonkey
      • Yes, thank you. But I'm sure economists were also putting in their two cents on whether it's good govern... : Ovate
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      these economists were saying for the past 3 years that there was no problem with housing and that sub-pri... : mrtony
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        If only they had listened to the Internet! Seriously, that's so tinfoil hat. If people knew it were c... : Ovate
        • Oh are you fucking kidding me. TONS OF PEOPLE SAW IT COMING. As mrtony said tons of online investment blo... : Toth21
        • The sub prime thing was not tin foil hat, it was COMMON FUCKING SENSE. If you give 500k loans adjustable... : theghostofsmdever
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        no they weren't. tons of people saw this coming but the money was too nice at the time so no one cared. : hamachi
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          well you have a point, but the economists at the Federal Reserve, i.e. the ones that matter from a policy... : mrtony
          • Lol and greenspan somehow still pretends like he had no hand in this. The entire investment community has... : Toth21
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        there were plenty of economists who warned of a bubble (Robert Shiller is always warning of a bubble of s... : DonkeyPopsicle
        • Wow yeah great insight here. It was really really simple to see: House Price vs Wages are traditionall... : Toth21
      • i wouldn't call the way these markets work exactly simple : cpt_gloval
    • The same ones that helped plan the bad investments? : freqq28
• i wonder how this affects their subsidiaries? i just realized my dad works for AIG's marine department sh : cpt_gloval
• wtf is all this economy shit. I think I'm going to go back to the under the mattress system. : baconisgod
• I think Robert Shiller's and Nassim Taleb's appearance prices just doubled. : DonkeyPopsicle
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  You know, I leave this place for a month or two, and you guys ruin everything. : freqq28
  • Also, I would like my free insurance, retiremant plan and mortgage now that we bought three multi billion... : freqq28
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  where are the shack free market republicans being outraged by this? : ]pm[chem
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    Well, as a libertarian, I'd say that I "would" be outraged by this, but the US hasn't been a "free market... : pigvomit
    • Remember all that shit in the last few years about how a systemic crysis was impossible because the risk ... : Toth21
  • Free money going to successful businesses and businessmen = good, money going to poor impoverished people... : Psigun
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    I think they spent their wad complaining about setting up the Fed back in '91. 1791. : trove
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      It was created in 1913 because of the bank crisis of 1907. Also, you really think that a centralized b... : Serpico74
      • "The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form... : Serpico74
  • Well, I don't mean to speak for all of the shack right wing wackos, but I'm too busy working and making m... : rosewood
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  i wish i got money when i fuck up :\ : Theos
  • ^^^^^ : ShoCon
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  So the Fed -- the taxpayer by extension? -- is the largest shareholder. This is a different deal than F... : thief
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    If something is that important to your economy, you protect it or at least keep an eye on things. There i... : [7]kami
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      Do most people think this would not have happened under a democratic administration? : thief
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        doesn't matter what would have happened, what matters is that it did happen : RikiTiki2
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          I don't know enough about it to agree or disagree, but you've a point, though I wonder how influential it... : thief
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            Yes, you're right. Too much of politics is about blaming people or parties and this is what the politica... : thief
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              (or let it fix itself). : thief
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                (government deficit & debt needs fixing too, how do we go about that?) : [7]kami
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                  (You're asking the wrong person; I'm not very political nor knowledgeable about economics, but I am rath... : thief
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                    (Things are beyond fixing. Both the government is virtually bankrupt and various huge companies are so mu... : [7]kami
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                      (:() : thief
                      • ^^^ HAY LOOK IT'S A MONKEY says the government : Arctic Fox
      • No it prolly would've happened anyway. But focusing on controlling external factors (oil) through war + i... : [7]kami
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  State company. But communism is bad, mkay? : [7]kami
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    Well I mean it's worked out everywhere else! : ninjase
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      (in before china reply. ps they arent really economically communist and didnt experience a financial upsw : ninjase
      • hahaha : Richese
      • lol : [7]kami
• With this, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, I believe we have spent more money on investment hou... : DianeOfTheMoon
• http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/business/17insure.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin Representative Barney Fra : vigilante
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  Where does the US even have $85 billion to give out? Just another "Oh yeah we oh the world this much mon... : proclone1
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    Did.. did you just say... "we OH the world"? : boring gegtik
    • yes i deed : proclone1
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  I vote for starting over. Spears and loin cloths only. Who's with me? : Reeves
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    What about internet and loin cloths only? : bostrov
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      nooo.. That takes the fun out of it : Reeves
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        ok, just the internet then : -efx-
        • I'll spear you : Reeves
  • http://www.ballz.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/britney-spears-rolling-stone.jpg I am. : [7]kami
  • ok but no bras or tops. : proclone1
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  The fact that it's the Bush government that's forced to do this is just as hilarious as the replies by th... : Stage
  • This is even better: "We're going to put an end to the reckless conduct, corruption and unbridled gree... : [7]kami
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    Dude, its crazy. If this was done under a Democrat administration then there would be no end to cries fro... : Serpico74
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      I really hate politics and government. It really splits people apart.. Government should have as littl... : Reeves
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        Lack of legislation (or total freedom depending on your views) made the US financial market what it is to... : [7]kami
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          I couldn't even tell you what ECB stands for.. I only know the basics and those are just my basic views. ... : Reeves
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            Which is pretty sad, and I blame our education system. : Reeves
            • Haha no problem. Bush prolly doesn't know that either. omg so witty har har har : [7]kami
          • European Central Bank--you knew that but didn't connect it. : thief
• this thread is awesome. : Foxhawk
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  Everyone in this thread who thinks the bailout was a bad ideal has no idea what they are talking about. ... : handofthrawn
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    I don't think people are against the bail-out. They're against the fact that the tax-paying public underw... : nudel
    • The benefits we receive is the economy doesnt' collapse into quivering pile on the floor. : mrwolf710
  • This thread is full of economists, what are you talking about : mmogger
  • My anger would be directed more at this current policy of Privatized capital gains and the public footing... : theghostofsmdever
  • You are right. The only issue i have with the bailout is that the government can not afford it. So more m... : [7]kami
  • Its not that I think they shouldn't have bailed them out, I understand that there were massive ripple eff... : Toth21
• this makes me so sad, I really wish we can burn the people at the stake. Who knows though, maybe it will... : stgdz
• how many of you want to bet this guy is going to get his $8.7 "Mr. Willumstad could receive an exit packa... : Yabrodan

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  Also S1X, S10X compact superzooms, and the flagship IXUS successor (with manual controls!) and IXUS870 (S... : dodob
  • I wonder how this new batch of SX cameras compare to the micro four-thirds format, specifically the Panas... : dodob
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  15 and 21MP, seriously. What does that gain you, the ability to print building-wide posters and fill up y... : FiReaNG3L
  • The physical exposure dial on the G10 is cool as hell. : dodob
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    yeah, also given that most of the reason nikon supposedly have the edge on the high end cameras is becaus... : Arsenal
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      More megapixels does not necessarily mean more noise, but the two are related for sure. Digital noise : ConfusedUs
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        Great and informative reply, ConfusedUs. Thanks! : Bean
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          You're welcome. Why do I know all of this stuff? : ConfusedUs
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            Because it makes you a better photographer. :D : DHAvatar
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              Sometimes I wonder about that. I find myself spouting off information and teaching others, and yet, w... : ConfusedUs
              • Once you know the rules, you also learn when to break them for better photos, and that's usually from exp... : DHAvatar
      • Sweeeeet, thank you sir. This is exactly the sort of reply i was hoping for, i know bugger all about this... : Arsenal
      • Fantastic post - thanks, ConfusedUS. : Nitrium
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      Well, more MP doesn't really mean more noticeable noise, the quality of the sensor is primarily what does... : Bean
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        I compare the megapixel craze to megahertz in computing. It's never, ever bad to have more, but neithe... : ConfusedUs
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          the irony is that the 5D mark II is actually a professional cam so marketing with meaningless MP values i... : blindi0815
          • Advertising photographers, at least, like to have as many pixels as possible. It gives them so much more ... : ConfusedUs
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            Why is it pointless? Most stock photo agencies require a minimum number of megapixels for submissions an... : scythide
            • pointless as in professional photographers usually aren't guided by MP values alone : blindi0815
      • i'm in the same boat as you, but i was going to buy a 5D anyways. it was just all the rumors about the n... : dopeman
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        Which Canon model are you finding high ISO (low light) to be a disappointment with? Even the older models... : DooBall
        • Last generation's Canon cameras had great ISO performance--for that generation. The current upper Nikon l... : ConfusedUs
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  the 5D Mark II has full 1080p support : pilgrimage
  • omg. 24p samples plz : ventro
  • $2699 body only.. not too bad I guess. : malloc
  • Check out these videos recorded on the 5D (lolz/nws?): http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop01.html ... : DooBall
• fuck. now i know what the girlfriend is going to want for christmas. =( : mindmann
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  fuck yes. i'm getting one as soon as i get more monies! : dopeman
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    5D that is. no more of this 1.6 crop bullshit. who wants a 30D. : dopeman
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      if the shipping to euro land wasnt so expensive i would want it :< : blindi0815
      • you should be able to find one over there for a reasonable price easy. i think they are selling for arou... : dopeman
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  So, when are you getting one? And yeah, at first glace that URL looks like DP Review, not D Preview...... : MacemanInTW
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    It is DP Review - Digital Photography (not Double Penetration) : Bean
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      Yeah, I kinda figured that out. I'm still a little groggy and my brain hadn't kicked in just yet. It's ... : MacemanInTW
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        Dude it's 1PM, wake up :D : dodob
        • The old lady came back last night...I didn't exactaly get much sleep. Thank god she goes back to schoo... : MacemanInTW
  • Ha. Nah, I'm sticking with my old cameras. This news does make me excited about future compact camera dev... : dodob
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  Man, the 5D Mk II looks pretty good, and though I was hesitant about companies mixing video capability wi... : DHAvatar
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    Having the video on the 5d kind of boggles my mind. On the D90 it made sense, as it is an upper-tier "pro : ConfusedUs
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      yeah interesting to put that on such a high priced camera and not the 50d. from what I have read a l... : malloc
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        I think that the next generation (not the one currently emerging) will bring on the push towards full fra... : ConfusedUs
        • also, yeah, it seems like video on the 50d would be a no-brainer, to compete with the D90 : ConfusedUs
    • It's just a natural extension of Live View. Plus 35mm video with interchangeable lenses? Sweet. I'm su... : scythide
    • Yeah, I think mixing video with a DSLR makes it gimmicky as I've always considered DSLRs solely for photo... : DHAvatar
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      I disagree. Its stops being a gimmick when it can be used extremely well and being able to shoot video w... : soggybagel
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        well, call me crazy but it sounds like maybe they should make a video camera that does that instead. : dopeman
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          They do, it's called RED, and it costs about $17,000 : scythide
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            and it probably does a WAY BETTER JOB than a SLR. seriously, i am still reeling over the fact that someo... : dopeman
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              It does do a way better job. But to say that an aspiring filmmaker couldn't use it to make something nic... : scythide
              • It was? That's awesome. I didn't know that. Wasn't one of those stop-motion movies digitally animated? (S... : dodob
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          None of the consumer or even prosumer digital HD video cameras out there will get you the DoF control tha... : scythide
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            i don't really have enough information to form a valid argument, but i suspect that if you think that you... : dopeman
            • Nobody said that the video would be the same image quality as a still, but you cannot achieve the DoF eff... : scythide
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              Making assumptions on upcoming products is fine. Making assumptions and crossing your arms and going "nop... : dodob
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                go ahead and punch. it's not going to prevent me from buying the camera. it's just a feature that i'm n... : dopeman
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                  Who cares if it's the next big thing or not? Maybe for some sort of pseudo-purist-photographer (who stil... : scythide
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                    I'm mad because it seems like a waste, period. I don't keep up with Nikon, but I suspect that they hav... : dopeman
                    • Well, we have to wait for production samples to compare ISO noise, but the fact that they're enabling 25,... : scythide
      • Well, sort of. The mic will suck I'm sure. Stability mounts wont' really work with it. According to dp... : boarder2
      • In a generation or two maybe, but right now the movie mode is going to be of limited use. : ConfusedUs
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  i really really dont get why DSLR are going towards video. I get that its a neat gimmick, but honestly t... : smacknca
  • i agree. i might use it if the occasion arises, but i doubt that i'll set out with the full intention of... : dopeman
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    It's all marketing, in the attempt to lure more customers away from cheap point and shoot cameras into th... : ConfusedUs
    • preach, brother. : dopeman
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  Does using video mode fly through the shutter actuation figure? Seems like a great way to kill your shut... : adev
  • Video is just an extension of Live View. Mirror is locked up and you view through the LCD screen. : scythide
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  Iso twenty five thousand? Ha ha, that's awesome if you want an alternative to night vision goggles. : locater16
  • The upper end Nikons can do ISO 128,000 with perfectly acceptable noise. The sad part is that my old D70s... : ConfusedUs
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  Speaking of video on DSLRs... does someone have a link to some videos that show the D90 or 5Dmk2 with the... : Bean
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y484jV_2IfA I saw a better example earlier but can't find it. Notice h... : scythide
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      http://vimeo.com/813505 What's happening? The mirror is wobbling and distorting the image coming through... : boarder2
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        No, it's in the way the sensor dumps data. Some digital video cameras have this effect too. It's becaus... : scythide
        • Here's a better explanation (I got some things wrong I think) http://dvxuser.com/jason/CMOS-CCD/ : scythide
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      haha... JELL-OOOOO : dodob
      • lol it is pretty bad : sanchez
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    This is something I have no fucking idea about. My best guess is that the high frequency vibrations are c... : ConfusedUs
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      isn't it just a result of the way the image is captured from the sensor? pixel data is stored linearly fr... : Mr.Fusion
      • err i mean CMOS instead of CCD : Mr.Fusion
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  The good news is that used 5ds will start hitting the market soon on the cheap. : ConfusedUs
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    But would you purchase an older 5D, given the features of the new one? I have been checking craigslist q... : dopeman
    • I almost always buy electronics a generation behind, so yes. I have a feeling that a used 5d is going to ... : ConfusedUs
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  The squirrel movie is fucking awesome http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop02.html According to ... : dodob
  • All the movies are pretty sweet (no panning however): http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop01.htm... : scythide
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  honestly, I just want a canon made, mid range camera. Here's it's features: Basically, an A570 with b... : kaddar0
  • The G10 is a teeny bit thicker, wider, taller than the G9 it seems: Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but... : dodob
  • The SX10 IS is looking mighty tempting to me on that front. Only 10MP, but that's still way more than I r... : Helter Skelter
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  I'll be buying the 5DmkII immediately. Any of you bastards want a nice condition 5D? : steelsamurai
  • If nobody takes you up on this, they are nuts. The 5d is still a better camera than any of the canon x0D ... : re-verse
• good, I thought I would regret my D700 purchase, not now ! : gmd
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  Ohhhh 5dmkII Hello my future camera! : re-verse
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    hahaha I was waiting for you to show up to this thread : Arctic Fox
    • Oh man, I just read the full review. I'm very excited about it. There are a few things I'd have liked to ... : re-verse

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  I'd like to know why it's better then WoW myself. : alias
  • I'm interested in that as well. : brickmatt
  • why would you make an MMO differently? destined to FAIL. : radula
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    its fun, its pvp oriented (completely) but i wouldnt say its better than wow, at least for me so far. WOT... : theWhite
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      I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that WAR is completely PvP oriented... : zerog83
      • I don't. PvE is just there to aid the leveling process. And if someone wants to do the highest end PvE, t... : Tommy Toolbag
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    It's not. But it's different enough that people who are tired/bored of WoW can enjoy it. : Ellissd
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      It takes a lot of what I love about WoW, and adds real PvP, and some cool innovations. : graceofdragons
      • This. Plus it's new so while it has some quarks you don't have that whole 14yr old with 4 lvl 70s screami... : zakazi
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        What is real PVP? Big battles? : [7]kami
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          Big battles that you actually earn lots of XP from (and items). Players clip so with a glld team you can ... : re-verse
          • Thought so. Not my cup of tea. :) I prefer small battles. : [7]kami
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    It's new, the PVP so far I like a lot better. Arena's and constant grinding in BG's sucked in WoW, War lo... : rhuntley12
    • Forgot to mention, I've played almost every MMO in release or Beta and I have never had the problem decid... : rhuntley12
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  I barely scratched the surface of it during the beta and I was completely lost at all the different types... : jingletard
  • would of been nice if they would of incorporated blizzard's "grace period" when dealing with queues thoug... : theWhite
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    Do things really change in the world, though? Does shit get destroyed? Territory changes hands? : brickmatt
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      At some point one side will be able to storm the other main city, possibly conquer it, and for 8 hours or... : Prozium
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        I thought the opposite was true? That you are actually storming an instanced version of the city, and so... : electroly
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          See, that'd blow. I want real consequences. I want fuckers to feel my wrath. : brickmatt
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            That's the biggest issue I have w/ WAR PvP... There are no consequences except a 10% wounds debuff if you... : zerog83
            • You still get RP no matter what, actually. : JohnnyRey
        • I thought the whole point was real PvP in the non-instanced areas so everyone can be involved? : Richese
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          no, the main point of the "campaign" is for one side to capture the others main city. http://en.wikipe... : Prozium
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            also, I think the way it's setup is that the regular game world is actually a large ass instance. From th... : Prozium
            • So it's like Chromehounds. : brickmatt
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              The game world is not an instance. Everyone on a server could go to the same zone and crash it. : Tommy Toolbag
              • I got the impression each map is it's own instance, and served up as such. Even in AoC where you had m... : Slowtreme
              • I wasn't referring to an instance in the traditional sense. Just that the overall world will eventually b... : Prozium
• WAR is not a super refined MMO, but instead an MMO that really focuses on group interaction. You get intr... : Lionel2b
• It definitely offers something new, but whether it's something you'll like or not is hard to say.. It's o... : Reeves
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  The Public Quests alone are worth it for people to at least try the game. It's like they took the multi-... : mrwolf710
  • PQs are really what sold it for me, I freaking love those. : zakazi
• It's better and more accurate to think of it as Dark Age of Camelot Part II, with a vast array of improve... : xpaladin
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  Does WAR have anything similar to PVE instances or raids? : fishbone
  • Public Quests! : zerog83
  • I haven't seen any but I haven't gotten very high. I loved running instances in WoW up until even heroics... : rhuntley12
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    End game city sieges. Mythic learned from Trials of Atlantis in DAoC. I don't think WAR will ever see ... : Tommy Toolbag
    • A game that tells raiders to go fuck themselves. I love it. : Visceral Monkey
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    basically no. 'Raids' are RvR - large scale PvP with siege weapons. : lordlobo
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      look how wrong you are. The best armor in the game comes from PvE raids of capital cities. : pancake humper
      • Still, its not raiding on the same scale as WoW raiding. : Tommy Toolbag

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  Spoiler it? : notd665
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    Vader starts the rebellion. : Chepito.
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      What the fuck? That can't be. : orgcaptainnemo
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        ^^^ spoiler it more : orgcaptainnemo
        • Vader wants to eventually overthrow the emperor, doesn't want to make it obvious. Dupes the apprentice in : Chepito.
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          here's the ending for anyone who likes things that are hilarious at the end (on the under-construction d : JINKY
          • wow. that... wow. I can't ... wow. Lucasarts :( : jimmy_legs
          • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! : Arcanum
          • I like things that are hilarious and this is definitely hilarious : veras
          • They certainly unleashed the bullshit. : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • I just spit out all the water I was drinking, and then I spit out more water. HAHHAHHAHA what the FUCK : bigexplosions
    • lol wut : jimmy_legs
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      The fuck? That doesn't even begin to make any sense. : Arcanum
      • it makes sense if you remember that the star wars franchise has been raped several times over : dirge23
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        how they soon forget. the sith always turn on each other at the top... : Downforce
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          Sure, but that's not why it doesn't make any sense. : Arcanum
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            hmmm. I'll ask a Mr. Darth Revan about these matters : Downforce
            • Revan is a poor parallel to Vader. We were introduced to Vader as an evil dude back in what's now "EP4". ... : xpaladin
    • hahahaha : tomservo
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      YOU'VE GOT TO BE MOTHERFUCKING KIDDING ME!! : g0nk
      • i quit. i just fucking quit. : g0nk
      • LOL : r3dn3ck
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        (|8<: : coldfusioncs
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          This is my attempt at a stormtrooper. :( : coldfusioncs
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            it looks like that tusked guy. : jimmy_legs
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              * Z O I D B E R G ' D * : heartsauce
              • haha yes also him : jimmy_legs
    • Oh what the fuck. That's worse than the midichilorians. : pigvomit
    • hahahahahahahaha : grifter
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      I think that's actually kind of cool :( Doesn't that make me too much of a nerd or too little? : Richese
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        It makes you a battered superfan. : Gonzo
        • I confess! : Richese
    • That's bullshit. Technically it started way before he even existed, : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Vader causing 9/11 makes more sense than this : Daggoth
    • lol, why are you guys not suprised? : stgdz
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      I'm confused though. I thought the devs went to Lucas several times for his opinion and input on various : hoov1185
      • Judging by the sheer stupidity of spoiler, it actually sounds like they did get his approval. : stump
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  Spoil it for those of us stuck in the queue for playing WAR? : walker270
  • http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html : Slowtreme
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  I gotta get this. Lightsaber/force fix and all. until KOTOR 3 rapes my face off with HK-47 glory : Downforce
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    It isn't very fun. The controls are pretty shit. : h o s t i l e
    • son of a bitch. come on man. NOOOOOOOOOOO : Downforce
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  I heard that not only does it take like 10 hits to lightsaber someone, there are force immune guys later ... : crazywigga
  • plus the simplicity of the lightsaber being able to cut through most anything should be a gameplay PLUS, ... : jimmy_legs
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  I'm not going to read the spoilers because I really want to play this game and enjoy it. But you guys ar... : virus
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    Didn't you try the demo? : jimmy_legs
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      Gameflying this one. : pigvomit
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        it's on my list too, and if it doesn't show up for a while I don't think I will miss much. Except maybe ... : jimmy_legs
        • They shipped my copy yesterday. I should get it thursday I think. : sigpro
  • honestly, it's a pretty good game. if you liked the demo, then the full version is better. the ridiculous... : JINKY
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  This game blows. 10 Walk. 20 A guy in the distance is shooting at you. 30 pick up an item and forc... : cornchak
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    I don't know, but that sounds kinda basic. : pigvomit
    • I laughed, well done. : Grandmoff
    • hahaha : razorblade79
    • lol : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Haha, very good sir : node
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    every fps ever 10 walk 20 aim 30 shoot 40 goto 10 : JINKY
    • meh, you are a terrible programmer to not include dodge, cover, collect health/ammo, and find the exit. : pigvomit
    • you're right. I forgot line 101 101 don't have any fun doing any of this shit because the controls su... : cornchak
• how long was the game? : grabbie
• I pre-ordered it and I'm going to enjoy it dammit I don't care what you say!!!! : tunis5000
• Just got it today. About to start playing. I'll let you know in a few hours. : pturvz
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  Here's a video of X-Play's review. http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-200080.aspx : ShoCon
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    Morgan Spurlock voice. : kramweil
    • lol, it was. I don't have cable. Is he on the show or something? : kevp
  • Damn. that's brutal : sKetchflow
  • holy shit im going to wait for this turd to end up in the bargain bin : ghost in my shell
  • "and then you will die" lol : marmite
  • Hah that's harsh. I'm glad they released a demo as I was almost going for the pre-order. What a big POS g... : Nitrium
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    I'd like to see a review of the Wii version : Slowtreme
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      I've read one yesterday and it was something like "waggle the wiimote as fast as you can and you'll be fi... : Nitrium
      • I think the wii haters pretty much use this as a blanket statement for all games. And yet if you try that... : Slowtreme
• I got a copy for $15 but haven't played it yet. Do you guys think it's worth that price? I figured I'd re... : OverloadUT
• i went into a gamestop today looking for Armored Core: for Answer and got a laugh at the perplexed look o... : Borzoi
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  Is anyone really all that surprised that this game is a steaming pile of shit? : Drewus
  • not really, but unlike the Star Wars movies, hope in the real world can be snuffed out without the help o... : contentious roy
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    Actually it is not that bad. I sunk a decent amount of time into it last night and I am having a lot of f... : Evil Benius
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      Is it anything like the demo? Because the demo was the opposite of fun. : Drewus
      • No idea, I never played the demo. : Evil Benius
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        I really thought the demo was good fun *shrug* : jbury
        • Yeah, ditto. Not deep, and the AT-ST was a bit annoying, but certainly not a stinker. : node
  • call me Mr. Pessimistic but I've had a bad feeling about this since it was announced. : marmite
  • not at all. : tomservo
  • Not at all - I'm always skeptic towards any Star Wars game and it wasn't different for this one. I was fa... : Nitrium
  • This is just the sound of a million nerds having their hopes destroyed in seconds. : Fyunch Click
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    I'm in disbelief that they could fuck up that much, I remember it looking super-awesome a long time ago :... : aethyr
    • Same here :( : ConsFEARacy
• Book marking this for hilarity when I finish the game. No, I'm not buying it at full price. : node
• This isn't the game we were looking for. : PoopStewart
• Even after reading the spoilers in this thread, I'll still pick up the game but not until I find it for a... : TwiLyght
• Surely it cannot beat the worst game ending of all time, the end of Matrix: Path of Neo with Mecha-Smith. : node

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• on = one. pfffft : Optimus Prime
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  but the toolbars are in a different spot!! : manero
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    thats the MS way now a days. we take everything you know, shuffle it around and repackage it with ROUND... : smacknca
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      Who over there decided that people LIKE getting frustrated re-learning where everything is? It's the m... : heartsauce
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        hell i was just thinking about office when i wrote that. the ribbon still drives me crazy and ive been u... : smacknca
        • I had absolutely zero problem learning the ribbon. Things are in far more intuitive places now than befor... : Arctic Fox
• nooooooooooooooooooo : Nali4Freedom
• thank god, finally an operating system with the tools I use everyday. like zip and photo editing! : radula
• Why change a good thing? : Goblin au
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  Looks good to me, and they added at least one feature -- the zoom scroller. You used to have to go to th... : electroly
  • Yeah and I now see an option to view fullscreen as well. Interesting! :) : Optimus Prime
• mspaint threads will never be the same :[ : mojo the helpr monke
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  They should just make an OS that's fast and doesn't come bundled with a whole bunch of crap you're just g... : SockMonkeh
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    They have to bundle the crap in, or else Joe Average wouldn't be able to acomplish simple tasks. I wi... : thecray
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      does anything ever happen with apple and safari and half the shit that comes with that OS? : dantastic
      • No, because Apple is like immune or something. It's pretty retarded how Apple does the same thing as Mic... : IndigoAK
      • When you've got 5% of the market share, nobody cares. : Arctic Fox
      • You can very easily delete Safari in OS X and it isn't an integral part of the operating system. Differen... : Serpico74
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  It depends on what that resize option does. If you can actually resize an image using it without have to ... : sigpro
  • haha, I hope so as well. That resize dialog is the most useless piece of crap ever. They should put a but... : thecray
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  Yet it will probably still be incapable of saving a file as a PNG. : CasbahBoy
  • paintbrush has been able to save to png since xp : electroly
• they should just support the Paint.NET project and be done with it : filthysock
• Hey, I like that! Ribbons! : Rice-Rocketeer
• Holy fuck! This will break the universe! Especially if they update the way it craps crops : sKetchflow
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  Jesus fuck I hate that UI. Is XP the last MS OS I seriously install? : pres589
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    Get used to it. The ribbon is also coming to explorer. : retarded talking dinosaur
    • but i don't want to wear the ribbon :( : emcea
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    Yeah, exactly. If they are going to use that horrid Ribbon shit instead of the regular menus in all appli... : GreatGooglyMoogly
    • the best feature of the Ribbon is the quick access toolbar, I have mine below the ribbon with all the com... : gakera
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      Also assume that we know better than you at what functions you want to access at any given moment! So ... : electroly
      • the quick access toolbar actually fixes this 100% : gakera
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        No, because the regular menu is static (unless you have their other ungodly invention enabled, Personaliz... : GreatGooglyMoogly
        • Also, toolbars are shit. I guess people who like the Ribbon usually had 4-7 toolbars open in Office at... : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • Kubuntu is nice... and free. : drucifer
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    get your head out of the 80s : spaceyme
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      What? First "google by vale" and now this? : slickdoody
      • bizarro polansk : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Haha burrrrrn. : kahuuna
  • yes it probably is. : nomaad
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    The ribbon UI has fuckall to do with Vista and is only used in Office 2007 (whether you have Vista or XP)... : nudel
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      In Office 14, OneNote and Publisher have been switched over to the Ribbon so far. According to Microsoft... : IndigoAK
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        You know that you didn't contradict nudel's point. At all. Right? : Arctic Fox
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          You do know that I wasn't trying to. At all. Right? : IndigoAK
          • Awesome, just so we're on the same page :) Incidentally, Onenote and Outlook getting the ribbon = win.... : Arctic Fox
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            You are meant to disagree vehemently with people on the internet, not add useful information. : daedraug
            • EXACTLY, FINALLY SOMEONE SEES MY POINT. : Arctic Fox
  • I dunno - I like it for some things, like reviewing in Word, but fucking hate how it even further obscure... : node
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    what exactly does Ribbon UI mean? : Slowtreme
    • Office 2007 style : Toraz Chryx
    • Means that if they don't allow a classic version, alot of people are gonna look for other options. : Phreakin
  • oh noes, don't like windows 7 because of paint, which is clearly important. : .ka`boom.zZz.
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  Hey, don't make fun at Paint. The Vista version of Paint finally added the crop tool! :-) : Smitty
  • Whats next a good Resize tool?! : Shadowdane
• Paint.Net is good times right? : Slowtreme
• I hope they release an optional downgrade. : Nitrium
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  Please tell me that's a Photoshop... :-( : Home Nugget
  • Because seriously, Microsoft goes off and buys start-ups developing some GPS tracking widget for your e-m : Home Nugget
• cropping is new. : edgewise

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  buy? : spaceyme
  • Valve? : aeg1x
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  I'd be surprised. Gabe is already worth megamillions from his days at Microsoft. I doesn't really seem li... : aeg1x
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    although... http://www.hlfallout.net/comments.php?id=9382 If anyone is interested in acquiring Valve, : aeg1x
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      Yeah, the Google acquisition makes a lot more sense then say, an EA one. EA acquired Criterion and then e... : SpaecKow
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        Renderware was selling quite well to 3rd party developers/publishers while criterion were independant. As... : Beady
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          My company using renderware at the time of the aqquisition wasn't allowed to buy a version of renderware ... : imperator
          • afaik EA basically decided renderware wasn't going to be all that awesome soon after they grabbed Criteri... : xsoulbrothax
      • Yeah but reports are Google wants Steam more than they do the Game dev side of the house. : woodchuck70
    • yea i remembered that : spaceyme
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  I cannot imagine the level of undeserved love that would be bestowed upon every single broken, over-simpl... : nudel
  • See also: Apple : Arctic Fox
• The Inquirer. Laffo. : -sk-
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  lkjsflkfajdlkaflakhlkgf that would actually be big news for the game industry, for three reasons eithe... : Luminair
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    i think we are forgetting getting google ads into valve games... : deviantpaul
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      If this happens, I will cease to provide any kind of support for Valve and its business. I have a very s... : IndigoAK
      • and those less obnoxious ways are? : PoopStewart
      • Didn't Valve start putting ads into CS 1.6 a while ago? : transmetal
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      you thought wrong. the google game ad business is old news, not news, and certainly not big news. the eb... : Luminair
      • nope. google ads in valve games. : deviantpaul
• Half-Lively? : pieman
• Who's Bi? : voodooraze
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  what would google gain by this : feek
  • valve : aeg1x
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    The use of steam as an online delivery platform for games/software/means to take over the world. : Super Sparker
    • Yeah I'm thinking steam is one of the longest running investments of any game company. : thekidd
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    uh money? : hirosushima
    • what does participating in a quickly growing 50-billion dollar global industry have to do with money? stu... : Luminair
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      well there are a lot of companies google could buy to make money. i just dont see how it fits into their ... : feek
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        I agree. Google seems to be all about web-based apps. Steam doesn't really fit in with that model. : dirge23
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          obviously this has been left unclear. so lets all get on the same page here. google wants to advertise ... : Luminair
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            easy on the condescension there, pal. : dirge23
            • the question mark at the end was a typo, thats not condescension, it is excellence : Luminair
  • Control of Steam? : fishbone
  • sneak preview of Episode 3. : aethyr
  • an application delivery platform, presumably for applications other than games : fluffy64
• Wasn't valve saying that it was open to being bought a few weeks ago? : RikiTiki2
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  That would be a flawless victory for google. Its genius really. Puts a huge dent in microsoft I think. I ... : bozer
  • www.valvesoftware.com will then forwards to games.google.com : PoopStewart
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  Googlesoft? : Ziz
  • Voogle? : zerog83
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  Yeah... no and also The Inquirer LOL. : Fred Garvin
  • It is The Inquirer, but it still makes me wonder... : ConsFEARacy
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    Fred Garvin LOL : RikiTiki2
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      Come on pal, it's The Inquirer. : Fred Garvin
      • but inquiring minds would like to know!! : Demius
• Gee, Google, what are we going to do tonight? The same thing we do every night, Pinky - try to take ov... : mmogger
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  Expect penis enlargement ads in all FPS titles, nice. : sukabljat
  • google ads are the most valuable because they are the most effective, so if you're part of the demographi... : Luminair

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  lol im on order on badlands /assist train me : oHnOES
  • Reroll. What's the matter with you! What's your name? I'll look for you ;) : Edges
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    what's your characters name? : xxiv
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      ps i'm 287th in line right now. everyone log out plz. : xxiv
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        badlands is overloaded and it's only the first day of the SE preorder head start? : DrFlammable
        • damn. only just the head start people in and its already at max capacity according to the herald. : fart
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          It's the 3d more populated server and the population cap is maxed out. : Visceral Monkey
          • malganis 2.0 : xxiv
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            haha. fuck that. I'm not going to be playing with shackers, then. : DrFlammable
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              Select a server as the alternate shack server and roll there I guess. : Visceral Monkey
              • it will level out, it's the launch of an mmo. so sure, roll on a different server, but you'll be back... : xxiv
              • Well lakren and I were flip flopping between Chaos Wastes (RP/Full/Open RVR) and Badlands, but I will not... : DrFlammable
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              Mythic is purposely putting in arbitrarily small caps on servers that have lots of people in the noob zon... : crimrOw
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                not badlands, it is already at max. http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=287 : stgulik
                • Wow... No kidding. Well I stand corrected. That sucks. : crimrOw
  • we will find you : jonin
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  It is awesome. Alas, the queue is about and hour long and should you lose connection, it's back to the en... : Visceral Monkey
  • We need a WAR Queue Dance : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • Yea, I just got kicked out. But it was worth it, had a ton of fun in my first hour or two. : Lionel2b
  • My favorite part is when I alt tab out, and then alt tab back in and the screen is blank and i have to ki... : crimrOw
• sigh. tomorrow cant come soon enough. : hirez
• On vacation for a week or so, but I enjoyed the beta enough that the game is waiting for me when I get ba... : Nihilist
• I am PEWPSOCKS... I will be joining eventually. I just built a new computer tonight so all of my night h... : crimrOw
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  How the fuck does the Shack always manage to pick incredibly popular servers? It's like Mal'Ganis all ove... : Vincent Grayson
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    I know. Whoever is doing that needs to be banned from voting on servers or just have them choose and then... : Frozen Pixel
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      i actually picked the one that neither the hardcore pvp groups nor the goons were going to. i have no ... : Clay
      • I think people just like the basic/familiar name compared to others. but who knows : Lionel2b
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        I'm pretty sure all the CE headstart servers are packed.. : Reeves
        • ^^^^ should have waited : skinlab133
        • yep that is the problem. looks like lots of guilds made plans for those. I expect the problem to get wors... : stgulik
  • Haha. The first MONTH of Malganis was horrible. The queues were so long, server constantly crashing. G... : stump
  • People will leave the server eventually... we just have to suck it out and wait. : Edges
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    Well, the initial queues will scare some people away when they see "full" on the server select screen.. t... : TreMetal
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      Badlands is already at max capacity, there is no "bump" for it or the other 3 that are full. But yea, peo... : Visceral Monkey
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        the reason he is saying exactly what i said is because that is what THEY said. servers wont be at max ca... : oHnOES
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          "Hello everyone, There are currently 4 servers on which players are experiencing high wait times. All ... : Visceral Monkey
          • I find it hard to believe that before the game is even launched they're hitting any real caps. : Horn
        • yes, they said they would adjust and allow more people in according to population. but that was before th... : fart
• My client is fucked. So much for doing the head start : melkore
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  BTW. Anyone that has downloaded the client but still needs a head start key? I have extra one. : Edges
  • Hirez : Visceral Monkey
  • if hirez or whoever else doesn't want it, i'd absolutely love to have it :) i'm just twiddling my thum... : fart
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    Hirez... send me a PM. Or I'll pass it to fart if you're OK. : Edges
    • yeah, I could use it, but didnt see this until now. no worries if you gave it away. : hirez
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  I received my CE from Gamestop.com today, beautiful packaging and awesome hardcover books. Can I still pl... : Simulacrum
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    u can still play from beta... and yea i love the CE.... wish they let us use the code already tho : inc77
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      How do you mean? the retail code? My Wife and I are using headstart codes, do you not have one of those? : Simulacrum
      • i mean the code in your CE box... so you can use your "special" extra heads and added quests... : inc77
• goddamn torrents. I've got plenty of trackers but my download speed never breaks 100 kbs. it hovers aroun... : DrFlammable
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  My shack name sucks. My Black Orc Meatbag will own everything, though. : walker270
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    Well, everything but the queue :( : walker270
    • Ahahah that's funnay! =D.. My name is Reeves... how original : Reeves
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  In regards to queues, I've noticed that you can afk almost indefinitely, i was gone for close to an hour ... : Ellissd
  • Be wary of flying to new zones though! You might crash!!!! :(((( : Reeves
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  anyone interested in picking a new server for a shack Order guild since Badlands is so overpopulated? : lakren
  • i think some folks had order alts on Volkmor, but it is one of the packed CE servers as well. : stgulik
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    I chose Volkmor but as stgulik said it's packed to shit.. I'm probably going to make an order character t... : Reeves
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      How about Bretonnia? : melkore
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        Sounds fine to me : Reeves
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          Yeah let''s bump alt servers for shackers to try and rally on. : Lightzout
          • I ended up rolling on Drifting Castle : Reeves
          • Bretonnia sounds good to me. : Salad Sammich
      • I'm a level 3 Warrior Priest so far. Who else is on? : melkore
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      It's all Mythic's fault. Why couldn't they have launched SE with more servers? Now everyone is obligate... : Edges
      • yeah, it was kind of a baffling choice. I dont know what they expected to happen with all the established... : stgulik
  • I picked Rakarth. It's low/low and a stupid name. Play with me! : Frozen Pixel
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    I've got an 18 Engineer on Red Skull Mountain. Order is still the underdog and no queues (yet). : graah
    • I've created a few Order characters on Red Eye for when the queues on Badlands gets bad. : dasampla
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  It was fun until I got logged off and had to sit in a 300 player queue for 45+ minutes. : Salad Sammich
  • the queue is 139 as of now people.. its not bad : oHnOES
• It would be easier if you could put notes about yourself in the guild roster, we should tell Mythic that ... : afrochops
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  god, i logged in around 3 (cst) today and have been playing ever since ... until, that is, warhammer cras... : arcane_
  • I've been on since 7:30 a.m. and now I got a massive headache. :( It sure was fun though! : Matt Burris
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  everyone went archimonde remember in WoW? it sucked. 2 hour queues. now what? just wait it out pe... : oHnOES
  • I think it's more the disappointment that we get a 2- or 4-day head start on the rest of the world and ar... : Salad Sammich
• I want in on this. If I am not on the right server I will re-roll and post accordingly. : Lightzout
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  look for warcrow--rolling a new dude on this server. Really loving the rvr in this game. : warcrow
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    order? : warcrow
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      Nice--18 hour wait in the queue. Is this server always this packed? : warcrow
      • I just logged in and didn't have to wait through any queue. : Prozium
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  general question for warhammer folks: do i need the US version of warhammer to be able to play on US s... : blindi0815
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    probably a us ip? : oHnOES
    • in LotR the US client worked, the EU didnt. I think it was the same with WoW and SW Galaxies. so not real... : blindi0815
  • Unsure. Neither Mythic or EA are handling the EU side of things. From my understanding it's all being h... : Wombat Woo
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    In the EU client only EU server show up. I don't know if there is a way to connect to / show US server. : Nihil ME
    • i just ordered the us version, hopefully this will let me play with the shack guild : blindi0815
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  Just tried to kill a warrior priest as a black orc and I couldn't get him below 90%. A shaman joined me a... : Ellissd
  • Yup. Tank vs melee healer usually = lesson in futility : Tommy Toolbag
  • My sorceress destroys warrior priests, as long as I can keep them at range. Just gotta get a nuker in to ... : tashtego
• I'll be on thursday. I hope you miss me. : hirosushima
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  another questtion: will my MBP be powerful enough to run the game? it's the one with C2D 2,4 GHZ and m860... : blindi0815
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    Yeah, it should run it ok. : Prozium
    • awesome. boughted. now i hope it wont take too long until it arrives : blindi0815
  • yep... my MBP can run it : inc77
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  It's funny because the Warpriest and Disciple of Khaine are supposed to be opposites but the WP is just h... : Visceral Monkey
  • so I wont rvr at early levels. dont piss on my DoK dammit! I dont get to play until tomorrow. : hirez
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    DoK is hard for me to play.. I can't go in and do any damage, because I constantly see my teammates low o : Reeves
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      im loving my DoK.... me and Ateam @ one point pretty much stayed alive and killing everything that comes ... : inc77
      • It's a tough class to play, but it's too early for me to throw in the towel yet. : Visceral Monkey
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  can someone tell me the "feel" of pvp is? I really got hooked on WoW's PVP (played it for 3 years, pure ... : paravis
  • It is actually better than WoW pvp due to the collision detection. I love running behind my teammates wh... : x4nth3
• Got a call from EBGames last night saying it will be available today (Wednesday) before noon instead of t... : Salad Sammich
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  Im coming tonight woohoo : renoforrent
  • This sounds personal. : Salad Sammich
• Badlands was full last night so I created on another server with low population, was really nice hardly s... : rhuntley12

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• Bristol Palin: The Furry Generation : RomSteady
• AMAZING : vile
• lolololol that is the only vgcats ive liked. : adsriordan
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  The glass case was the only funny thing there. : elwood00
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    What about the abortion. That's a riot. : vile
    • mmm, not as funny as a miscarriage, sorry : tashtego
• wow it wasn't always so... nasty : GloriousCow
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  CAD needed competition? Whatever happened to sticking to games and keeping it relatively tasteful? : the archvile
  • whats not tasteful about coat hanger abortions? you one of these "kick her down the stairs" prudes? : gokart.
  • lol you read my mind : gmd
• That's super effective! : five_percent
• hahahah AWESOME : kill9
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  they really should have stopped at the glass case on that one... yeesh : Home Nugget
  • Yeah. The ending should have been the glass case followed by the vanishing hands. : DrWaffles
  • subtlety has no place in web comics sir : strider_
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  That's the best vgcats i've ever read. It's also the only good vgcats strip : mr.sleepy
  • lies...I'm no big vgcats fan, but how can you not love this: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=13... : rt702
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  http://gmd.shackspace.com/vgcatscad.jpg : gmd
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    I don't think you could have made a webcomic even less funny, gmd. : DrWaffles
    • BUT YOU SOMEHOW PULLED IT OFF. : DrWaffles
  • hahahaha : indosauros
  • hahaha. : DOOManiac
  • ahahaha : Bamtan
  • Ha ha ha! :) : Malku
  • i guess someone had to do it : skizl
  • oh shit she aborted the shack : Slowtreme
  • HAHAHAH : Silent Wolf
• hahaha, awesome : Dschinghis Khan
• holy shit they went there : orgcaptainnemo
• How is that almost NWS? : DOOManiac
• hahaha : Mmmmmoo
• If you guys think this is bad watch the first half of this http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a... : johnlocks
• love the fact that his speech is pure threads and subthreads : thebigbinky