World of Warcraft: Lich King Arrives November 13

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• So, how much can you tell me about phasing, since it's one of Lich King's biggest features? About how it... : Altanar
• ☼☼HATER ALERT☼☼ After reviewing your comment history, you have been deemed a hater. Have a ni... : syn0r
• you posted this while camping out in front of EB games a month early, didn't you : fluke

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  Haha that comment in itself makes me laugh "The shadows add so much to the game." That really shows ho... : VictoriouSecret
  • hehe i was thinking the same thing, wondering if the post was in jest. : whyfacewhy
• Are the shadows only in the new zone, or do they appear on the old world too? : Cihte

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  I don't think they've posted the items for pre-order yet. : Home Nugget
  • They haven't. : walker270
• Will be posted this week. : Iwannaacura
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  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/collector/index.xml http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath... : Cihte
  • I'd imagine it'll be there... : Cihte
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  http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72700 Collector's Edition now at Gamest... : Cihte
  • Actually don't order from there.. " Additional handling fee of $14.99 will apply " wtf is that ab... : Cihte

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• Then you enjoy your stay and WoW's god awful PVP. I gave my WotLK account away. I'm bored as fuck with ... : valael
• That is a bold statement. WoW Wrath of the Lich of King is more of the same thing. So if you like more of... : kiloblaster
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  Amazing. Very good graphics. Please, can you tell what year it is? WoW is getting outdated, its ju... : VictoriouSecret
  • similarly WAR is more of the same, down to that trite-and-true point-click-diceroll-???-profit combat mec... : whyfacewhy
  • they do a good job of using quality textures to make the game look good. it's no Crysis but it's pretty i... : jonas54
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    Good art direction never goes out of style. : [7]kami
    • And the graphics and scope of the new areas have only become better! : ImageOmega

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• You start out at 55 as a death knight. You can take a zepplin at any level to see the new world...but you... : jarek99

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• heh, i bet they're just glad they got it out the door first. a week is prolly long enough to savour it : kiddygrinder

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  betcha can still buy in january. : Turd Ferguson
  • Well you know what I mean, the game will be data dumped, and everyone will be rushing through the content... : ghost in my shell

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  In what way? I'm not disagreeing with you, just curious. : bad_fish
  • The current external Beta still has bugs, lag issues, itemization, and class balancing to be done. There... : yAak
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    Take Wintergrasp, the all new PVP zone. Wintergrasp right now is not finished, it's 1 big zerg fest. ... : NukemFornever
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      how hard are you hitting as a 79 DK? I'm only a 58 newly DK line finisher so I've only done a few things... : jackomack
      • DK's are pretty easy once you get the hang of it Apply Diseases / Then use big strikes. I usually take... : NukemFornever
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  They have roughly 2 months before it ships. That's plenty of time to get all bug worked out. : Omega Blue
  • And the endgame stuff they probably have at least another month to get ready and itemized. They are curr... : dmaownsyou
• Everyone I spoke to thats in the beta is saying the same thing. They really like it otherwise. : BorenKets123
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  its not ready but I'm quite it will be shippable in the next 4-6 weeks (they'll need to start mastering d... : johnny rotten
  • Well there's always a patch on release day. As for class balance, they will get it within the ballpark. ... : yAak

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  agreed. im still sticking with AoC, say what you want i think its a fun game. The assassin is pretty awes... : shadebane
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    Hmmm does the loot not bother you at all? How about the cool downs on spells and combos? The fact that ev... : valcan_s
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      the loot is mediocre yes, but they are adding more stuff all the time. The AH is a bit buggy, but to buy ... : shadebane
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        Ya but the loot all looks the same it is annoying for me. You don't think in most cases you can barely te... : valcan_s
        • actually i haven't heard much good about WAR, and im a warhammer fan for sure (more 49k, but its all good... : shadebane
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  This will be my last xpac. Once the big old Warcraft 3 story arcs are done (illidan and now finally arth... : johnny rotten
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    realize that the whole WC3 storyline technically won't be over even after Arthas is dead. I'm certain so... : jackomack
    • oh i know they can stretch the universe out as long as they want. But in terms of key, primary character... : johnny rotten

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• I could get addicted to wow again, that's why I'll be avoiding this one. : zeejay
• Well, its not going to be any more different from BC than BC was from the original game. Which is to say: : yAak
• I have played the war beta, and I like it... but when i compare it to wow, its not a huge difference in g... : sbcpetew
• Oh but you HAVE already decided. You just dont know it. Consider the money already spent. : aznboysix
• I've had it preordered for ages, but after playing the beta I somewhat regret it. It's quality content, b... : Guybrushed

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  That's the problem. Sure, this is going to keep the millions of players they already have and generate so... : Link.
  • I agree, even though I am tempted to try it out for a month just to take a peek for the hell of it. Do... : valcan_s
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    It depends on what you're looking for. The people who like the high-end dungeons and raid content...all t... : Vincent Grayson
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      For me, WAR will ultimate boil down to PvE content and what it can provide in the long term. Which means... : IndigoAK
      • WAR's RvR is miles different than anything GW can offer. I don't think it's meant for the same types of p... : Link.
      • I wouldnt expect much in the way of PvE. And it should never have the stat inflation via items that WoW h... : Tommy Toolbag
    • Bingo. Each game is meant for completely different audiences, which does leave those who like PvE and not... : Link.
  • I dunno. It was enough to entice me to restart my sub to dabble a bit and pre-order the CE. : IndigoAK
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    disagree... its more of the same in that its wow... but burning crusade added a lot of improvements that... : sbcpetew
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      TBC ended up changing the game up quite a bit, but WotLK seems to be more of the same. This is perfect if... : Link.
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        If you think Wrath will be "more of the same" then you haven't been paying attention. The game will cha... : ahk-med
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          How is leveling from 70-80 any different than leveling from 60-70? Seems to be all the same old "kill X ... : jlavrenz
          • There is a lot of new quests "gimmicks" where you need to ride on vehicles or horses. I think you actual... : NukemFornever
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            Lol are you saying leveling a WAR is different then leveling in WOW? You mean there are no quests in WAR?... : Omega Blue
            • The concept is similar to previous MMOs, but it still feels less forced in Warhammer. I love that I can ... : valael
            • It can be totally different if you want. I plan on doing about half of my war leveling in RvR : Turd Ferguson
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            You want to boil it down to the most basic mechanics of the game? Then yes, then it's similar. But ther... : ahk-med
            • I think the issue is that it's still WoW, it still looks like WoW, it still plays like WoW, and it still ... : valael
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    What else would you want from an expansion to a hugely popular game? I mean, there are plenty of changes... : grendel
    • Perfect: I just hit 70 and I am bored to tears. Bring on the fetch quests! : johnwissinger

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• Mal'Ganis : jackomack

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• ya its crazy... and I love the quests that the death knight get! very fun and diverse! : sbcpetew
• yea its quite ridiculous how much they've packed in there. The zones are all very large, but they are st... : johnny rotten
• Coming off of AoC, I appreciate the seamless zone loading (at least intra-continent) even more now. : speon

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• Step 1: Collect underpants Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit! : jackomack

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• Well, Nov is the target month for most big releases, so that's not shocking that they were shooting for i... : action wombmate