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• Well said. : pieman
• ^^ power management is your friend. : dirge23
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  This is interesting and I'll start hybernating tonight. Question though, does hybernation effect streamin... : bozer
  • Yeah, when the machine is hibernated it's technically off, but it's saved an image of memory to disk, whi... : Toraz Chryx
  • i think if WOL is setup correctly it could wake up your pc from hibernation. and the MS media sharing pre... : feek
  • In the power management options of Vista you will find the options to allow the computer to enter away mo... : steve_o
• superserial'd : massdev
• So if I turn off my computer every night I'll save enough money to pay for my monthly subscription to WAR... : jlavrenz
• good stuff. i standby+turn monitor off when i go out and shutdown at night. : anthonybean
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  Vista users especially just use that little power button on the start menu. It's so convenient turning on... : aeg1x
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    My SB X-Fi crackles when its resumed from sleep mode : ( : Athlon7
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      i had that problem, too! i thought i was the only one. it seems to have stopped the past couple months. h... : feek
      • Except for when it just fails to hibernate completely. Thanks Creative. : dafugg
• my computer locks when i try to get out of hibernation. thus, i don't hibernate. but i should try to tu... : vassili_zaitsev
• A recent study here showed turning off our work computers when we go home saves 2 to 3 cents a day. It's ... : helvetica
• my landlord pays the electric bill :X : zerog83
• I put my computer to sleep whenever I expect to be away from it for 30 minutes or more - and it's not in ... : Lone Swordsman
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  good post, all those dude in the other thread running 4 PCs all night and a PS3 need to take heed and sta... : moshman
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    explains the WHY IS MY ELECTRIC BILL 400 DOLLARS??? :((( : feek
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      especially leaving the PS3 on, which is just ridiculous. OK, if you are running a server or something, bu... : moshman
      • i felt bad when i woke up this morning and realized i left my 360 on. that'll cost me! : feek
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    Im amazed people play their PS3's enough to warrant it being on like that. I was thinking last night how ... : bozer
    • A lot of people leave them on running Folding. I don't, but many do. : Ebu
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    So a PS3, even in stand by mode (ie: red dot on the front) uses a ton of electricity? :O : DM7
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      No, in standby mode it uses about 10-20 watts, which is significant, but in the scheme of things not a lo... : Hiro
      • WTF. 10-20 watts just on standby? What the fuck is it doing that uses that much power. : dafugg
    • It's a vampire device! Flip the switch on your power strip. : zebosausamite
    • Doubt it uses a ton, but why not just flip off your surge overnight? And if you aren't using net devices... : nukewinter
  • I'm trying to cure cancer you fucking hippy. : Jimbo Ro
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  yup. good post. it's just not worth it to leave it on if you're not using it. hybrid sleep owns. : feek
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    Yep, particularly now that it actually works as advertised. : Arctic Fox
    • Yeah, I just walk into my computer room and I'm Shacking within 2 or 3 seconds. : mrwolf710
• Sure. ok. : freakynipples69
• This is the reason why i shut down my computer when it's idle (for a few years now) even though i am not ... : [7]kami
• I've either always turned off my computer or put it in hibernation mode. What I'd like to do is put it i... : DrWaffles
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  When I put my Vista PC into power save mode, it always wakes up 10-20 minutes later... WHY? : Kenshin_
  • Mine sometimes does that as well. Vista is just cool like that. : asylumn
  • Just checking on you. : Githyanki
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    i've heard of it doing it within a minute later, but 10-20 is weird. might want to go to device manager a... : feek
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      Actually it might have been happening 1+ minutes later... I gave up on trying long ago because of this. : Kenshin_
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        check it out. i've had that problem before and it was fixed by turning off my keyboard's ability to wake ... : feek
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          Where might I find that option? My OS is in Japanese and I don't really want to spend hours searching for... : Kenshin_
          • Also, my PC is from Dell, if that makes a difference... : Kenshin_
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            im not sure if it's different in the japanese version. but the device manager. right click "my computer">... : feek
            • Found it! Arigatou gozaimasu! : Kenshin_
  • www.silenceyourrooster.com : PhoenixArisen
• I'm never going to hibernate my shit. like ever, and I don't turn it off, because well I don't want to, a... : Slowtreme
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  I'm pleasantly surprised at the responses of this thread. Usually anything involving going green here is ... : spigot
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    There aren't many logical arguments against the general principle of "turning something off when you're n... : aeg1x
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      I know, hence the "common sense". : spigot
      • usually with us nerdy types, any topic of conversation allows someone to barge in with pseudo superior k... : disembodied potato
  • Meh - it's not the "going green" part, it's the cost savings that could potentially result from this. : dedgecko
  • It saves you bank too. : silent prophet
  • I wasn't awake yet. : rosewood
  • Spoke too soon. :( : perstephanie
• I used to be really bad but always turn off my PC now and usually my Mac unless it's downloading somethin... : node
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  This would be a reasonable solution if hibernate/sleep worked the way it should. I've had quite a few sy... : jingletard
  • It works perfectly in Vista on every PC I've tried it on. And it usually works in XP now if you are up-t... : mrwolf710
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  good post but you should be looking at S3 (suspend to ram) rather than S4(hibernate) it only uses 2-3 ... : plat2on1
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    does this work correctly in WinXP on newish hardware? The last time I dealt with suspend to ram and hiber... : Old_Fart
    • it works if you have compliant hardware but in xp it's kind of a cluster fuck because of manufactures usi... : plat2on1
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    When it works it's the coolest thing ever (had it working on my rig for awhile), but something seems to h... : mn3m0n1c
    • yeah I've used a couple Vista systems that were set to hibernate and s-to-r and was fucking cool. At this... : Old_Fart
• This is definitely good advice, but I still maintain that a much more effective plan of attack in reduci... : rock elf
• My computer isn't completely idle when I'm not there or asleep. I VNC in with some regularity, and aside... : Arcanum
• But then I couldn't remote home from work and post on the shack. : Crimsonbeak
• In addition to leaving my pc on all the time, i do the same for all the tvs int he house. Might as well u... : pimpium
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  Will torrents still DL while a computer is hibernating? That's the only reason I leave my system on overn... : Dynotaku
  • No, but utorrent includes a handy option to auto-hibernate/shutdown when downloads complete. You can defi... : aeg1x
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    No. Do you turn the monitor off at least? : steve_o
    • Of course. My computer is bright enough with all the fucking LEDs all over it. : Dynotaku
  • I'm in this boat, and I set uTorrent to shutdown when downloads complete. : Sailor of Fortune
• My comp is also a server - so it doesn't get shut down. Normally if I'm away from it, it's either downlo... : genom
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  For people who hate hibernation/sleep(it screws a few drivers up on my machine) check if your BIOS has an... : semaphore
  • That's such a dumb hack of a feature. "Well shit, we can't seem to get sleep right, let's just do this i... : hawkeye
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  My friend makes me plug his eco blog, so I'm doing that here: www.greenertrends.com : smegmar
  • cool. never seen that site before. here's the eco blog i usually read: www.greendaily.com/ : wtf242
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  The problem (for me and at least a few others in this thread) is making your PC functional while making i... : hawkeye
  • Yeah, my G5 Powermac never sleeps, because it's also my server. I'm figuring 99% of what I need my curre... : genom
• If that LocalCooling app is at all accurate, I've saved quite a few kwh from letting it hibernate my comp... : riptyde
• The Direct TV HD Receiver (not even the DVR version), uses 35 watts when it's off. wtf is this bullshit? ... : edgewise
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  HAHAHAH your pitiful "earth" has nothing to do with me and my super green Icelandic free hydroelectricity : gakera
  • Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. : genom
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    Sometimes I think I'd like to live in Iceland. Don't know what the job market would be like for an Engli... : Lone Swordsman
    • Gene Pool Diversificator : ChibiJosh
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      The job market for an English speaker? wait let me get my thesaurus... ... The job market for an Englis... : gakera
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        Iceland is like heaven on earth, I'm not fucking around. I lived there for six months,a nd not a week pa... : CalibanX
        • I lived there as a child and loved it. Beautiful country. I really do need to go back. : MacemanInTW
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  thank you shack for showing me the errors of my ways. efficiency > power, because it doesnt matter how mu : m0rfus
  • Oh m0rfus, what thread won't you troll? : cousinrocky
  • yeah, fuck everyone else and the next generations because ME ME ME : moshman
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  will my computer wake when i try to connect to it via RDP when its in hibernation? : dantastic
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    also i wish they'd just make some more fucking nuke plants already because energy conservation is real fu... : dantastic
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      nuclear energy isn't free : aeg1x
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        the more energy there is, the less it will cost : dantastic
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          not if it costs more to produce. There's a reason private investors aren't scrambling to get in to nuclea... : aeg1x
          • Because nobody looks at the long term effects in business anymore they only want to make a quick buck and... : AgentPothead
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    No, if you have a tomato firmware router though, look up wake on lan stuff. : pieman
    • i'd rather waste electriciy than deal with that all over again. got my ddwrt wrt54g working as a wireles... : dantastic
• I'll leave all 4 of my computers on just for you :D : deadfish
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  If you have several hard drives, is it possible to spin down only the ones not in use? : MisterPhoton
  • Yes, but at least on windows a lot of things Explorer does cause the idle drives to get checked so they'l... : hawkeye
  • I think Vista does this automatically. : nukewinter
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  Snort less cocaine and we will talk. : OwenButler
  • oh harsh lol : Jackass1233
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    yeah, that has a lot to do with saving energy. : moshman
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      well who really wants to take advice from a druggie : feek
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        oh no he does what he choses with his own body. He is a damn sight more successful and clever than 95% of... : moshman
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          are you admitting you are dumb and unsuccessful? : Jackass1233
          • are you trying to provide the most obvious trolls of the day? As it happens I actually make a ton of cas... : moshman
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  if there's one thing Macs do right, it's suspend-to-RAM. i've never had any problems with it whatsoever.... : electroly
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    vista does this as well. It works very well. : aeg1x
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      I have two different machines running vista and I have problems on both - it is in fact the only problem ... : flagg209
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        what is the problem? : plat2on1
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          both machines, every once in a while they don't reload all of the drivers, so my network card or some oth... : flagg209
          • do you have UAC off? admin rights? my vista laptops do it perfectly, and the one machine I'm tinkering w... : Downforce
          • Creative sound card? : dafugg
    • this is vista's best feature : crummynz
  • I almost never shut my MacBook Pro down, the sleep just works (sorry). I think it's only failed to wake ... : hawkeye
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  My power bill is cheap as shit , 80 bucks or so during winter and 175 or so during summer with the AC on ... : malus72
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    What the fuck? My bill's like 250-300 during summer with 5 computers. What's your electric per kwh? : hawkeye
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      I'll see if can pull it up , it's Southern Company (AL Power) so its one of the cheapest in the nation I ... : malus72
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        I'm in Florida so I'm running AC 24/7, but I'm paying about 0.12 per kwh and using ~2000 per month (2500 ... : hawkeye
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          Im in the Tampa area, and our electric bill this past month for 2 refrigerators, 2 comps, 3 tvs (40" LCD ... : Tommy Toolbag
          • Tallahassee here, and that's just about right. ~200 dollars for 1200 or so KWH : ucanbfuzzy
  • we're about $85/month in winter and $130/month in the summer with a heat pump for heat/ac and 2 computers... : Old_Fart
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  Mind your own business. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • ohhhhhhhhhhhhh snapppppp girlfriend : FrayLo
• At my current house, we Had 3 PC's constantly running for some time, and we had a huge electricity bill. ... : krym3
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  If taxes placed on environmental friendly cars continues to be as high as they are now.. (at least where ... : humbleone
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    what? there are tax incentives to get hybrids. : FrayLo
    • like i said - not where I live. : humbleone
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    I think I should have titled this thread "Save money easy so you can buy more video games".. it's kind of... : wtf242
    • welcome back to the reality of the internet! : dedgecko
    • At least there is a lot of people in the thread who knows wtf (no pun intended). : humbleone
• You could have saved energy by shutting your computer off and not typing your post. : gmd
• I replaced my desktop with a laptop which i guess makes me a little bit greener but but i have file serve... : trevis
• Thank you for this PSA and general money saving tip for increasing our energy efficiency wtf242, because : Audhuml4
• I don't leave mine all the time, but overnight is pretty much the only time I can download large files. : hoov1185
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  GENTLEMEN WHO WANT TO USE S3/VISTA HYBRID SLEEP or are having trouble getting it to work. If you go to pa... : feek
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    page 29 when searching the pdf at bottom : Iwannaacura
    • oh. yeah i guess i should have used hte pdf page number rather than the magazine page number. : feek
  • The irony is I'd probably have to print these instructions out to save the planet. : gakera
• internet If I hibernate or shut off my computer, the internet disconnects. I like to leave my screen nam... : phipple
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  electricity is so cheap here it's almost pointless to conserve. : cpt_gloval
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    i never want to leave this state after hearing about other people's power bills : FrayLo
    • only because we don't have AC - saves us a shit load of money - except for those 4-8 days of July/August ... : dedgecko
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  my contribution to the environment is never having children. I'm green as fuck : GloriousCow
  • n lifetimes of 0 footprint where n is the number of children i don't have. : cpt_gloval
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    Actually that's not a contribution at all - your role in life as a species is to copulate and spread your... : dedgecko
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      oh shit i better sling some batter and make some screaming poop factories stat : GloriousCow
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        fuck it! just take it one step further and kill yourself. : mwasher
        • hey let me at least play DNF first :( : GloriousCow
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  Whatever. Let the Earth burn. : ejectorpod
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    if you want to troll you have to post something so stupid people want to punch themselves, not just be a ... : 60days
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      LOL I've been making that joke since TDK, calm the fuck down chief. : ejectorpod
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        yes, I will somehow suppress my uncontrollable spasmodic fury... : 60days
        • And the world will be a much better place. Please remember to hibernate. : ejectorpod
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  save the earth? or folding@home. hmmm. : hirez
  • fold for the e-penis points enhancement! : Unleashed
  • Do folding now while you can still afford it. : MamiyaOtaru
• I've gotten to the point where I just put my computer into sleep mode manually when I go to bed and wake ... : breadsticks
• That is complete bullshit about power cycling machines. It so much more risky to shutdown/poweron than t... : grandmasterlee
• sometimes I forget to turn it off.... I'm sure when I had my CRT, it burned way more power as well. I'... : ultramega
• but can uTorrent still run in hibernate? : DonkeyPopsicle
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  If it makes any of you feel any better, I have so much equipment running in my house that it heats the ho... : .ka`boom.zZz.
  • Karma in the form of a ` : Audhuml4
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  I think we could all make a better impact by car pooling, or not driving around in massive trucks / SUVs ... : Jimbo Ro
  • Other ways to save money... Don't go out to eat. Don't buy bottled water / soda / Starbucks when you ca... : Jimbo Ro
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  I can't believe you guys are arguing about this. :( : afty
  • i wouldnt call it arguing, more like scientific debate : spaceless
  • this is like arguing against CFL bulbs. save money and save energy. the entire thread should have just ... : handofthrawn
  • Stop Killing the Earth you Faggots Hey, thanks for the tip! : zakazi
• I think Americans get especially angry at being told they "should" conserve because the country has been ... : EvilDolemite
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  What's amazing about this thread is that the OP was about saving money by conserving electricity. The onl... : Scoots06
  • it's fucking retarded. Shack is going through menopause or something. I would like to say "Thanks wt... : pukerat
  • welcome to the mechanic off which forums thrive: digression : disposition
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  I want the Earth's health to get worse. I leave all 3 of my PCs on 24/7. : Richese
  • Glen Beck? : riptyde
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  THE PLANET'S DYIN', CLOUD!! : lefthighkick
  • lol : oHnOES
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  Main reason I leave mine on is that a lot of times I sit down just for a second to look something up, che... : Vincent Grayson
  • this is why suspend was invented :( : electroly
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  Stupid articles like this piss me off. They are totally misleading. Do some research on your own and do... : x4nth3
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    What a surprise ! Someone who disagrees is also running six computers 24/7 and thus, implementing change... : EvilDolemite
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      Typical lazy response. Do some research. I would be someone who would benefit the most if the bs was ac... : x4nth3
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        Perhaps not but turning of your PCs would save some you money; fact. : Richese
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          ...but then I couldn't use them to make money either... : x4nth3
          • Are you unable to turn your computers on after you turn them off? Mine let me do that. : Richese
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            your computers make money while you're asleep? you must be a spammer : Spezzer
            • or I could host websites... (no not pr0n) : x4nth3
      • yeah, and you NEED 6 computers running 24/7 right? : moshman
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        You didn't do any research!! : EvilDolemite
        • Wrong sir! I have one of these : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001&Tpk=Kil... : x4nth3
      • You don't know the history of energy efficiency, EvilDolemite does! : Audhuml4
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    how is your TLDR any summary of what you wrote in your paragraphs? what is your proof for "keeping you... : FrayLo
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      The OP talks about hdd's being just fine with turning on and off because of the heads parking but that's ... : trevis
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        hard drives have been using fluid bearings for years now, its really not an issue : plat2on1
        • ah. i'm old. Either way, for me i have machines at home that run 24x7 because i need them. I'm alwa... : trevis
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      Constantly changing the temperature of circuit boards causes them to expand and contract causing damage. ... : x4nth3
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        has anyone been able to point to "excessive on/off" as the reason for premature failure of computer hardw... : FrayLo
        • Dunno - we're still awaiting the final reports from MSFT. : dedgecko
        • from old school, I'd say YES. AT and the first ATX cases and power supplies fuckin sucked. you'd push t... : Downforce
      • The damage is so insignificant as to be negligible and never worth worrying about. In all my experience ... : Richese
      • it might only last for 20 years instead of 25. Of course, if you're using 20 year old computers, I gues... : bipolar
      • This is a poor argument for leaving them on. You will have replaced the machine long before any of this ... : grendel
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    hahahaha, you leave your toaster plugged in 24/7? Does it need an hour to warm up so you can toast someth... : MagicWishMonkey
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      he waited for 10 minutes before he realized the toaster wasn't doing anything!!! : FrayLo
      • Obviously it's all his wifes fault. *shakes his fist at his wife* : MagicWishMonkey
  • sheeple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Mr.SEX
  • my three pcs are on 24/7 (with the drives set to spin down) and as long as i don't use the heater, i pay ... : cpt_gloval
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    What about the temperature changes in your house from running 6 PCs? Does that cause your A/C to run lon... : grendel
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      6.3 billion dollars : deadfish
      • and 3 pandas : deadfish
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      in my case, most of the year, the PCs i leave running make handy little space heaters. : cpt_gloval
      • I've used my alienware laptop for this. It raises the temp of a tiny room by like 10f : deadfish
      • tho i do get after the wife for leaving her CRT on : cpt_gloval
    • the computers are kept in the basement which is naturally cooler and offset the temperature so it is just... : x4nth3
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    never bother trying to reason with hippies. They're some of the most closed minded people on the planet. ... : deadfish
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      i don't think any of the pro-shutdown people are hippies. : EvilDolemite
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        this thread is just packed full of amazing nonsense coming from semi-intellectual people, it's so crazy w... : Mr.SEX
        • AIR MURDERS FISHES! : deadfish
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          Because people don't want to admit they were ever wrong. It's easier to assume everyone else is. Look h... : twifosp
          • I heard when you don't use electricity the terrorists win. : Chod
    • ^^^ is afraid of being murdered in his sleep by a lightbulb : MagicWishMonkey
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    my favorite part of this story is how you somehow managed to take ten minutes to figure out that your to... : mikecyb
    • do you have to sit and stare at your toaster to make it work? if so please provide link to said toaster ... : x4nth3
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    Congratulations, you just extrapolated your tiny experience with a few products, in your specific geograp... : PlanetPerfecto
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      it is true i have not tested every appliance in every country around the world. (how could i?) i do a... : x4nth3
      • I have a meters like that and the numbers sound about right to me. My imac was 70w running, 40w in low... : jcupitt
  • I don't know, I have a kill-a-watt and while I don't think I have the spreadsheet I made when I got it, I... : CrazyPants
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  Computers don't make a dent in your energy footprint or your electric bill. Everything wtf242 recommende : adpalumbo
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    my computer doesn't use electricity : Mr.SEX
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      energy generated from the horizontal mambo AMIRITE?! : dedgecko
      • the tears of baby icebears : bamb
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  I turn off my computers whenever they're not being used. I also club baby seals. and people babies. : sKetchflow
  • i support the clubbing of people babies. : deadfish
  • EOT. : disposition
  • I skullfuck puppies (by the basket load) and turn my computer off at night! Except when I have the lapto... : Vorlonesque
• Those first two articles are really a bit out of date. : Halen
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  I won't believe those numbers unless they come from a device between your wall plug and your computer. : retarded talking dinosaur
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    http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4400-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU Buy this and see for yo... : Spezzer
    • If you're going to buy a kill-a-watt, buy the P4600, which keeps the values if it loses power. I have the... : Hiro
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    You are fully capable of purchasing and using such a device... : perstephanie
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      I'm just saying don't come in here with an "estimation program" and pretend it is proof of anything, that... : retarded talking dinosaur
      • It pretty much says right in the name that it's just an estimation... : perstephanie
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  Hey, lets all buy carbon credits too! I sell them cheap! I DO NOT ACCEPT GOLD PRESSED LATINUM. : jingletard
  • NO buy your carbon credits from al gore, hes the one who made them...and who pays for his house with them... : SlingBlaze
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  Let's say on average every american went green with their appliances and whatnot, and saved $25 per month... : phipple
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    The government could tax everyone $25 more each month and that is enough money to invade anotehr country,... : gmd
    • lol : boring gegtik
    • hey motherfucker don't you work in the defense industry you're just a cog in the military industrial comp... : mindfk
  • or people would lose their jobs : SlingBlaze
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    you think the price of energy would increase with a drop in demand??? : Toraz Chryx
    • backing up toraz with this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Supply-demand-left-shift-... : itsjames
• Don't save the Earth, save yourself. The Earth was here long before us and will be here long after we're ... : Jimb0v2
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  The saving money arguement is kinda broken...I don't pay for my electricity, my landlord does, and we hav... : SlingBlaze
  • you don't think electricity is priced into your rent? : plat2on1
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  This thread is a disgusting abortion and I am angry at all of you Shacknewsians for participating in it, ... : virus
  • An abortion is delicious steak in comparison to this. : windowpane
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  I'm not killing the earth I'm freeing energy! : jokemon
  • yes! Energy Liberation! : lja83
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  Yeah, turning off my computer every night dropped my power bill about 20 dollars. Now I need to convince... : ucanbfuzzy
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    DOWN to 76? 76 seems kinda....fucking hot. : Jimbo Ro
    • Depends on the AC I would think. When we set ours to 76 it actually gets pretty freaking cool. : nukewinter
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      76 is comfortable in my experience, but 80 would not be. So it all depends on what he's bumping it down f... : perstephanie
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        i grew up in a house that couldn't afford to use air conditioning more than one month (august) out of the... : ucanbfuzzy
        • That sounds reasonable. When I'm home our a/c is set somewhere between 76 and 78 (we don't have a precise... : perstephanie
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    what is it set to usually? : Marauder IIC
    • i try to keep it between 78-80. if i move it down to 76 it adds another 20 dollars a month to my bill. : ucanbfuzzy
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    If no one is home consider a programmable thermostat. I set mine to 85F for the workday hours. Wait, ... : EvilDolemite
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      Now that I know it's all China's fault, I'm going to try to increase my energy bill. : perstephanie
      • Holy cow! Everything suddenly makes sense! I wish I had a remote control AC so I could turn that shit ... : MagicWishMonkey
    • once i get settled into the fall semester, i might look into those. : ucanbfuzzy
    • Oh wow, it actually took a fairly long time until someone mentioned China! : ShekkyBoy
  • As my roommate, if you kept turning the AC up to 76 I'd have run you out long ago. I keep mine at about 6... : Magus
• You should try to get your computer to use 242 watts. also I cant believe faggots are arguing this. : not work safe
• If the Earth Dies, Humanity Dies. If Humanity Dies, the Earth will Continue. : Sailor of Fortune
• Thats a cool app, thanks for the heads up. : illwill18
• Good post/arguement wtf242. I'm one of those people stuck in my old ways of leaving my pc on because it'... : ImageOmega
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  Let's see how the numbers really work out. Assuming all my math is right... (no guarantees, I got my inf... : hawkeye
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    I use an old Pentium 4 that is overclocked to heat water that powers a steam turbine that provides power... : Jimbo Ro
    • That would be completely awesome. and feasible with a P4 ;) : hawkeye
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    I've noticed that my computer runs a lot better after it's been off all night compared to when I leave it... : wtf242
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      BTW, your post could've been much better and more convincing. (This isn't really meant to be a personal : hawkeye
      • Also, his computer is not using 84 watts with those new features. It's using the same amount it was. The ... : OverloadUT
      • I believe those number include monitors, and possibly other things not actually powered by the computer. ... : arhughes
      • the 84W is probably pretty close to actual values for idle. : ucanbfuzzy
    • What OS are you running? I've not experienced this sort of thing since XP. : Richese
  • damnit Hawkeye, you aren't supposed to actually do the math. You either say "Yeah, worked for me!" ... : duncandun
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    Well, if you've got $11.52/month from just turning off your computer, it seems like if you combined that ... : perstephanie
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      There's so few things you can really do that aren't punishment. CFL lights, turn things off if you're no... : hawkeye
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        CFL lights bug the shit out of me. I prefer incandescent. I can see the flicker, I don't care how many ... : twifosp
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          I've seen plenty of shitty ones that flicker, but the good ones don't seem to bug me. The CCFLs might be... : hawkeye
          • Yeah, mine don't flicker at all, and I think of myself as being sensitive to that. : perstephanie
  • You can pay for WoW by turning your computer off when you're not using it! : SockMonkeh
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  Wow, god forbid someone disagree in this thread I see....... : Phreakin
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    hah, i was writing up a reply for you "I can't imagine if I posted for people to turn off their lights w... : handofthrawn
    • Oh well, to each their own..... : Phreakin
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      I SHIT OIL : boring gegtik
      • Dick Cheney is going to invade your ass. : twifosp
    • That's bullshit we don't argue over just anything you're full of shit mister. : DOOManiac
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    We're trying to keep this thread somewhat on topic i.e. saving a bit of electricity and cash by taking a ... : Carnivac
    • Fair enough :) : Phreakin
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  I only leave Media Center on 24X7 because well it records TV and it's a PITA to go downstairs and turn it... : rhuntley12
  • Just let it sleep after 30min of idle. It will awake automatically if it has a program to record and it w... : nadasurf2
  • Dunno about XP but Vista Media Center works great with standby mode. The PC goes almost completely off (t... : nudel
  • ^^^ likewise, but I bought a super-efficient power supply and it sits idle 99% of the time so it's not a ... : MagicWishMonkey
• Localcooling thinks my 8800GTS overclocked to 675 core uses.. 6 watts. :( Haha. I fired it up to poke aro... : xsoulbrothax
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  On this subject: FUCK SCREENSAVERS, unless they're very simple ones. If you find a screensaver like th... : nudel
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    there's no point to screensavers, full stop. you should just set your automatic screen turn-off to be th... : electroly
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      i like my screensaver :( it just runs randomly through my pictures for 15 before the monitor shuts off.. ... : xsoulbrothax
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        how often do you find yourself sitting at your desk but not using the computer? i don't understand how y... : electroly
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          pretty often. if i'm not home the comp is on S3 standby, so when it is on, i'm home. and if i'm home and ... : xsoulbrothax
          • i guess it turns into a glorified digital picture frame? : xsoulbrothax
    • Screensaver set to none! Monitors turn off in 15 minutes! : deject
• I always turn my computer off when I don't need it but thanks for the heads up. that's a cool little prog... : JohnnyDanger
• i'm a grown ass man. i do what i want. : reverend~heresy
• Thanks for this info. Guess pwnage1232 was wrong >:( : Malku
• Skimmed this monster thread, but couldn't read it all... I know it's supposed to be a myth that powering ... : Marlin
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  Is using an UPS more or less "green" than just the standard wall-socket where power may fluctuate and oth... : Cliffzorz
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    I'm going to go with exactly the same. : Arctic Fox
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      So it uses the same power, but is MOAR EFFICIENTS? : Cliffzorz
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        the battery in the ups is not 100% efficient, so obviously using a ups causes the system to be less effic... : Luminair
        • and even if it were 100% efficient, it's still going to use extra electricity following a power outage, t... : electroly
• No. (saving energy). : grandmasterlee
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  I plant all my old computers in my backyard : drucifer
  • You should totally make a little bit out of it, like Towerhenge. : action wombmate
• It just doesn't feel right if I can't hear my hard drives spinning. Also i'm at 278 watts of power us... : Ellissd
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  The whole "OMG giant power hungry video cards" argument doesn't really hold much water unless you leave C... : Sapiens
  • i gave some simple tips that would save money. i don't get all the hate : wtf242
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  i run my computers (both of them!) 24/7 and set my AC to 68. nothing is going to change that : kill9
  • the price of energy might. Special pleading probably won't, though. : DonkeyPopsicle
• wtf is going on in this thread? also: lol. "going green" we ain't killing the earth, there is no glob... : g0nk
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  Earth sucks. : .sticks.
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    MARS OR BUST! : ThomW
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      We would just turn our monitors on and fuck that up too. : .sticks.
      • Mars needs global warming though, maybe we can export ours for martian incentives on sexbots? : massdev
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        No way in hell I'm turning off my PC on Mars. What am I gonna do if it won't boot up again? Hope that Dr.... : Dave-A
        • Are you even going to need a PC on mars? 40 minute ping times are going to make surfing the internet kind... : bostrov
• But think of the lives we save by running programs like folding@home. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! : fleabug
• LOOK YOU HIPPIES. IRC DOESN'T IDLE WITH THE POWER OFF OK. SHEESH. seriously though, I'm trying to cut... : Downforce

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• iPhone or iTouch ? : MrLobo
• I thought the ipod touch people had to pay... : jimmy_legs
• Far as I know all updates I've installed were free. : two50six
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  iPod touch users have to pay for updates. No joke. : Mmmmmoo
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    what? why? All previous ipods had free updates, why is the touch any different? : sjpeters79
    • Something about subscription fees from the iphone or something so they get it free. Sarbanes-Oxley was al... : freshyk
  • That is extremely lame. : perstephanie
• *grabs popcorn* : FrayLo
• * S O P 9 7 - 2 ' D * : Sailor of Fortune
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  Ummm...you're misinformed. It is the iPod touch not iPhone. Still sucks but old news. : yellowtexan
  • I just heard about it through second-hand sources. I laughed at the absurdity of the idea. : silent prophet
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  kinda like Microsoft charging 800 points to change an xbox live gamer tag? : biofrog
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    Yeah we've now established that that is also bullshit - and? : EvilDolemite
    • I think his point is that it's ok for apple to be assholes because microsoft are assholes : boring gegtik
  • But unless you pick a really lame nick, who needs to do that? I have no desire to ever do that. I do kn... : FormerHPB
  • I like that. I hate it when my Messenger contacts change to some random name I've never heard of and I'm ... : nudel
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    i almost paid to do this back in the day when i didn't want to use "mwasher" but then those fucks in c... : mwasher
    • But you are the best washer of men I have ever met. : FormerHPB
  • Why don't you just start a new XBL account? Oh nos, my 6000 Gamer points?! : Sailor of Fortune
  • No it would be more like Microsoft charging people for the fall update. : Pettytheft
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    Unrelated. My gamertag doesn't affect my product's performance. Maybe if they were charging for the new d... : hoov1185
    • That's fair enough reasoning :-) A bit late to the reply party, but my reasoning was not to bash MS o... : biofrog
• lol @ paying for firmware updates. hahaha : AMikaboshi
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  Oh god forbid I pony up a negligible amount of cash when I get new features! They don't charge for bug f... : adpalumbo
  • Apple asshole apologist. AAA. : dafugg
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  I can tell you it's a joke, but lying isn't very nice. : halophoenix
  • I haven't paid for an update to my iPhone yet. : perstephanie
• If only google search had something to say about this price... : InflatoMonkey
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  They do it cause they've learned they can get people to pay for service packs. So why not? : Dynotaku
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    I guess. I think just because you can, doesn't mean you should, though. Its kinda like Xbox Live Arcade's... : silent prophet
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      Then do you part and don't pay for a device that isn't properly supported, or don't pay for the upgrade. ... : Richese
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        Ja, I don't own an iPhone/iTouch, though I was considering one solely based on the awesomeness of the Lat... : silent prophet
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          iPhone is a nice device, relatively cheap and good support. iPod Touch is still too expensive especially... : Richese
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            If the sky was the limit, I would grab the iPhone. The specifics of there phone plans though pretty much ... : silent prophet
            • AFAIK, you don't have to pay for the 2.0 upgrade if you buy an iPod Touch right now. it's either preinst... : electroly
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    Windows 98, 98 SE, 2000, ME, XP, Vista OS8.5, 9, X, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5 I count the same number : Lunatic Angelic
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      To be fair, all of the OSX releases fit in between XP and Vista. The timeframes are much, much shorter. ... : electroly
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        $10 to enable N wireless on an iMac? Really? : silent prophet
        • it was $1.99, my bad. http://www.macrumors.com/2007/01/25/prominent-accountants-blast-apples-1-99-80... : electroly
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      98 SE was a free update : zerog83
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        Was it? I had forgotten, I thought it was a new retail package and everything. : Lunatic Angelic
        • After it came out, they discontinued the original version and sold it at retail : zerog83
      • and who here really had ME. : Juno
    • lol ok : cltcprd
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      Terrible argument. SE was free, no sane person bought ME, most people went from 98 to XP, and almost all : retarded talking dinosaur
      • I acknowledged the SE mistake, however most of the OSX updates have also brought significant new function : Lunatic Angelic
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        Plus there are so many ways to get Windows for dirt cheap. : sanchez
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          And there is no hardware restriction. : Richese
          • There is also CD key authentication/verification and WGA for XP/Vista, which doesn't exist on Mac OS X (w... : Fayk
      • It goes both ways. People don't buy every single release of OS X either. : vigilante
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      SE was free IIRC, and you could possibly make the case that ME was a "service pack", all the others were ... : navelskrutt
      • more like disservice pack amirite? : zerog83
• It's a joke, Floridian. : sharpie
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  That's what you get for not having a $199 subsidized phone with a $80/mo contract. : jingletard
  • lol I love the $960/year phone service plan. : silent prophet
  • pets my 1st gen, $300 8gb iphone score that has been on Tmobile from day one. Probably my best deal on a... : smacknca
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  Yeah, I really started hating apple after they refused to release updates for the first-gen ipod, even th... : deadhorse
  • You realize the architecture for the 1st-gen to the 3rd gen and such was a bit different, yes? : Fayk

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  Have you seen Descent? The original Ju-on is pretty good too. : deathofrats
  • Descent was fucking horrible. I watched it on release with my buddies in the theaters and when all the s... : doozer667
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  the two 'masters of horror' i watched were pretty meh... : oHnOES
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    Those are good, we picked up a set. Skews towards gore at times, which may not be your thing if you like ... : bombay
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      i just sorta remember them being a little hokey. one i remember was some movie one, where a guy is in se... : oHnOES
      • Yeah, that one was like WTF. They do get a little hokey, but understanding there is not that much really ... : bombay
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      i'm fine with gore... i love it, actually. just right no i'm in the mood for honest-to-god creppy/scary/d... : waxthirteen
      • It is tough to find anything like that these days :( : bombay
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        it may be new-horror esq : oHnOES
        • wtf, saw is a good movie, i really like it : oHnOES
• I'm convinced that there is no good horror anymore. Special effects, CGI and unabashed gore have ruined ... : flagg209
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  The Decent is descent. I really liked Silent Hill even though (or maybe because) I've never played any of... : Marauder IIC
  • Yea I was pleasantly surprised by Silent Hill too. Not a great movie, but worth a watch imo. I would pu... : johnny rotten
• Yes [rec] was good. I seem to have better luck with foreign films when it comes to horror. : Wombat Woo
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  another vote for the mist : oHnOES
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    just for the ending, what the fuck, seriously : oHnOES
    • i actually watched the mist because of everyone on here raving about how crazy the ending was. i just tho : waxthirteen
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  i was forced to see Masters of Horror: Jenifer it was bar none one of the worst pieces of shit ive eve... : -=kodiak=-
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    i used to LOVE tales from the crypt, but only for the laughs. i wouldn't call it horror. : waxthirteen
    • the crypt keeper used to scare the fuck out of me. i would cover my eyes until the intro was done. : xxiv
  • Ugh, I've seen Jennifer before too, it's awful. Dario Argento is so overrated, I don't get why people lo... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  wow, ok... Descent, not THE descent, right? i was like "that movie about spelunking got awry? no thanks".... : waxthirteen
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    No, they are talking about 2005's "The Descent", directed by Neil Marshal. It is in fact about spelunking... : dirge23
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      oh really? i immediately dismissed it as one of those teen date movie type of horror films. i'll check it... : waxthirteen
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        I don't want to oversell The Descent but it's better than your average horror movie. I also recently saw ... : dirge23
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          I hated The Strangers : dael
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            why? : dirge23
            • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17592137#itemanchor_17592137 : dael
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    http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=3672 sounds pretty cool actually. : wetard
    • yeah, i saw this in the theater. it's pretty good and does a great job with atmosphere. : dirge23
  • The Descent http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/ is a great adventure/horror/thriller movie. Highly recom... : dewdman
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  The Orphanage : mwasher
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    good movie, but i felt like i was waiting to be scared more than i was actually scared. that's actually a... : waxthirteen
    • Same here. Disappointing. : thejm4n
  • I thought it was good but it didn't scare me. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  i thought ruins was pretty good : Dravenport
  • the host if you hate on american made movies : Dravenport
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    Im curious about this. Anyone else see it? : Cygnus X-1
    • not scary at all but not a terrible movie. Basically the 'horror' comes from just one gore/shock scene w : johnny rotten
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  this is supposedly good: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416315/ i personally haven't seen anything de... : wetard
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    yeah, wolf creek was ok... didn't get creepy till the end and then it was just another torture flick. the : waxthirteen
    • it sounds pretty cool i'll have to see it.. i can't say i'm a fan of slasher flicks. : wetard
• throw another vote in for The Descent : kenmis
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  Is it me or has almost every 'horror' movie released in the last 5 years been absolute garbage? What the... : doozer667
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    It seems the trend of using effects / cgi for the scares instead of letting the viewer's mind take them. ... : bombay
    • my favorite is when a giant conspiracy is revealed at the end. : wetard
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    What horror movies do you consider good? Sounds like your standards are too high. : dirge23
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      Is it really too much to just ask for being scared, or empathizing with the main characters? I thought s... : doozer667
      • Oh, and Jacob's Ladder was pretty awesome. : doozer667
      • I liked the short story of 1408 so much that I didn't dare watch the movie and ruin it. I find John Cusac... : dirge23
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        You might like The Strangers. : dirge23
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          I watched it and hated it =| I couldn't empathize with the two characters despite the efforts made, an... : doozer667
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            Horror movies do tend to fall victim to the problem that characters have to do something incredibly stupi... : dirge23
            • I can forgive one or two acts of stupidity under the blanket excuse that they're too scared shitless to t... : doozer667
      • that's partly a problem of the time constraint: we simply don't have long enough to get to know the chara... : DonkeyPopsicle
  • It's not just you. I'm feeling the same way. Horror movies in the 80s were so much better. Now it's al... : Edges
• There's no such thing as "horror" any more. Current producers have no idea what "horror" is. They get b... : genom
• Just thought of another one. Population 436 was actually pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... : Marauder IIC
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  i'll recommend Dark Water (the original). it will forever haunt me : xsii
  • You mean with the pirates? I didn't think that was horror. jk : Totenjaeger
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  if you have a decent surround sound system A Tale of Two Sisters is pretty scary (You also have to not ca... : bawbeh
  • no problem with subtitles. just added this to my netflix queue! : waxthirteen
• Absolutely enjoyed 1408 : mystifier
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  Dawn of the Dead (new one) was pretty fucking intense : virus
  • The old one is still better. By "better" I mean "best horror movie ever" : dirge23
• i think a new hellraiser remake is on the way : vassili_zaitsev
• I've watched all the Masters of Horrors so far and none of them are scary. Most of them down right suck,... : Edges
• http://tiff08.ca/filmsandschedules/films/martyrs : emacs
• REC : disembodied potato
• I enjoyed [rec]... I hope they don't fuck it up with the Quarantine remake : prime8
• REC : whore
• The Skeleton Key was freaky as hell : MagicWishMonkey
• Teeth! : Vincent Grayson
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  REC REC REC REC REC. Just watch it in the dark, so great, scariest film I've seen in years : niceguynick
  • REC disappointed me. =/ I guess I was expecting so much more. But, the end is definitely damn scary. ... : ImageOmega
  • Really want to see this but can't find it anywhere.. : silent77
• Masters of Horror were AWFUL. Stay far, far away from that crap. : NastyJack
• I saw one episode of "Masters of Horror", it was pretty bad. It was all about haunted raccoon pelts. : s2jason
• whats wrong with teen fuck fest :( : doomed
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  Did anybody catch The Midnight Meat Train? : capt tripps
  • I didn't realize evening reading was up yet! : zakazi
• I, too, am looking for a good horror movie tonight, but I've seen The Descent already. Also, seen rec... : Anti_dentite
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  MOTHER OF TEARS, EOT. go look around on youtube for clips, if you like. : Borzoi
  • Dario Argento has a really cool style I like. Susperia was pretty cool. I never heard of this one thoug... : Razputin
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  only movies that I can recall actually scaring me that came out in the past decade are 'Blair Witch Proje... : tunis5000
  • Sadly, not a whole lot of really scary movies since then. One that really got under my skin was Takeshi M... : Borzoi
• Wolf Creek creeps me out pretty good. : blakhawkjohn
• The Thing : deadfish

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• I guess it that's the choices I'm gonna go with Waaaughenflappen : jonin
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  I still think "Full Retard" is an awesome name. : Arcanum
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    me too, but would they let us keep it? : xxiv
    • You never know until you try! : Arcanum
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    <Retard Strength> : SeanJuan04
    • http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/fightworld2_2017_8604128 : shortbuscaptain
  • hahahahaha yes! : phipple
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  With all this polling maybe the guild should be called the Bastion of Democracy : aeg1x
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    Not Bush? : Clay
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      Team America, Realm Police : aeg1x
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        For an Order guild: Operation Destruction Freedom : aeg1x
        • I vote for this, if we go Order, that's an awesome name. : Vincent Grayson
        • lol : Clay
        • this is a great order name. : shortbuscaptain
        • haha, THIS! : ImageOmega
        • lol, this gets my vote : pyrogen
• lampsandlime : InfoBiter
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  Haha, I didn't expect Open Destruction to be taken seriously. : Head Rush
  • It's really the best one :) : Slowtreme
• WAR it up Kriss : pyide
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  <We Use Ped Eggs> : .sticks.
  • This made me laugh : SeanJuan04
• <Drakhh's Guild> : AMikaboshi
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  1) Guild of Calamitous Intent 2) The Shugashack 3) Not Warhammer Safe : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Crap, I didn't see Waaaughenflappen -- that replaces my #1 choice. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Von Hymen's Express or The Gums of Novacaine : massdev
• Calamitous Intent is my favorite, but as pointed out, it's clearly one several guilds are already using. ... : Visceral Monkey
• War Socks : smacknca
• Sapped Girls Can't Say No : Nighteyes
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  I'm not playing but i really like "Not Warhammer Safe" : zipper76
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    I like Waaaughenflappen, but I like NWS because of the simple abbreviation. GCW isn't as cool as GCR ... : pyide
    • Abbreviations is why short guild names are awesome, they fit. The other side will never know what <GCW> o... : shortbuscaptain
• Tonight We Use The Whole Chicken : Home Nugget
• <Drucifer Squirrel Brigade> : .sticks.
• The Red Tide : duncandun
• Army of the Twelve Monkeys : AgentPothead
• Just name it Shack Squad and go Order and roll on the same server as the goons! : Ellissd
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  Warhammer Don't Hurt 'Em : Thresher
  • laughed. : Skoal^Fyfan
  • this is great : Draugluin
  • awesome. not that I'll be playing. : Turd Ferguson
  • you made my day : fathertime
• I like Calamitous Intent, even though we're just ripping off The Venture Bros. In that vein, maybe Go... : sharpie
• "Update: Still Crying" : mechanicalgrape
• <Stop Wanting It To Be Better Than Wow> lololololol : Downforce
• Warshach : slickdoody
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  Hey, you guys should come roll on the same server as Goon Squad. You're going Core and Destruction, right... : Link.
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    they should roll opposite the goons on the same server. Both guilds will be relatively organised so it wo... : aeg1x
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      Hahaha, I love the Shack as much as anyone else, but I'm pretty sure any Goon guild would utterly destroy... : mechanicalgrape
      • no question : pyrogen
      • yeah obviously in terms of pure numbers, but the shack would still be competitive in an equal numbers sce... : aeg1x
      • Till they splintered then they would be manageable. : .sticks.
      • i enjoy killing goons in all games equally. But for somthing like warhammer we should prolly stick to the... : italiano3d
  • Population caps for each side, and goons might fill out destruction side by themselves. : mem
• shugashack : renoforrent
• Giant CommuniWAAAARGH : Rotten Deadite
• <Pink Hoverboards> or just <Hoverboards> or <Hovercraft> : SeanJuan04
• Wondrous Omniscient Warlords : Awun

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  Earth Defense Force (If you have someone to play co-op with) http://mattplays.com/game/earth-defense-for... : MagicWishMonkey
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    i need to play this : mwasher
    • It's dirt cheap used, swing by blockbuster or ebgames on your way home ;) : MagicWishMonkey
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    If you are to blame for my b/f bringing that home I will kill you. I am not very good at shooting large ... : Zhaneel
    • Also how about Burnout Paradise ? Need something for the kid and gets a kick out of doing the crashes on ... : malus72
• Rock Band and $200 in MS Points to buy Geometry Wars 2 and Rock Band DLC. : Deathlove
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  why not wait till September 7th and get it at it's new price : sjpeters79
  • BB will refund the difference : malus72
• Microsoft points, pick up a 1600 point card so you can buy Castle Crashers. : ant_hillbilly
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  Are there any decent "sandbox" like games besides GTAIV ? Ones where you can just drive/run around in a l... : malus72
  • Oblivion, Fallout 3 (coming soon), Saint's Row, Crackdown. : Richese
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    Crackdown. Crackdown > GTA4 : bagelcc
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      Oh no. Not at all. : freakynipples69
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        As far as sandboxing goes, then yes, crackdown is miles ahead of GTAIV. If you want story then GTAIV cle... : navelskrutt
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          Crackdown has full story-mode coop which is a HUGE plus for me : OverloadUT
          • there is no "story" in crackdown - more like co op sandbox FUCK SHIT UP!! Though it's going to be a to... : dedgecko
          • In May a friend left his 360 here, and my brother and I played co-op crackdown the entire night, like 14 ... : DinK
  • Crackdown! : Mansmells
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    If you have a buddy with an xbox, for the love of god play some co-op Crackdown! : silent prophet
    • Hell, I'll play co-op crackdown with you! :D gamertag: silentprophet1x : silent prophet
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    Crackdown is, thus far, my favorite co-op game. I am down for play at ANY time. : ConfusedUs
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      that game needs more-player coop :( can you imagine the sheer fucking chaos with 4 or even 8 of us? : xsoulbrothax
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        Four players I can see. Eight...not so much. I wish the game had continued after the big plot twist at : ConfusedUs
        • that would be, indeed, AWESOME. i'd predict a lot of homing rocket juggling if everybody's spending so mu... : xsoulbrothax
        • Hahah, treacherous . : ieGod
  • gotta jump in on the crackdown love.. that game is a lot of fun.. : dextius
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    Mercenaries 2 very soon : megarust32
    • SEX : xsoulbrothax
    • yes : silent prophet
  • CRACKDOWN!! : adsriordan
  • CRACKDOWN. It's amazing. : ieGod
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  Crackdown, Bioshock, Geo Wars 2, Braid, Gears of War, Halo 3 : bagelcc
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    Halo 3 isn't overrated? : doozer667
    • It's a very enjoyable MP experience - as frustrating as the ladders can be, it's a treat to sit down with... : dedgecko
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  Mass Effect is a must. Call of Duty 4 is pretty fun. Soul Calibur IV looks interesting but sadly I don'... : doozer667
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    What the environment like in GoW ? Is it really free roaming or are you still fairly limited on direction... : malus72
    • From what little I have played of it, it seems to play like a fairly linear FPS. It does a damn good job... : doozer667
    • Personally I'd just hold off on GoW and wait a few months for GoW 2. BioShock should be enough to whet y... : Ovate
    • It's a linear shooter - no roaming to be had. : eskimo spy
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  Dead Rising! It's cheap too! Fantastic game. : FormerHPB
  • ^^^ Got it for $18 the other day. : Head Rush
• Madden 09, Ninja Gaiden 2, Battlefield:Bad Company, and a lot of MS points. : Head Rush
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  My first 4 games were Assassin's Creed, GTA 4, Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 (just got my XBOX 360 Elite abou... : MatthewPhillips
  • Oh and BioShock, which I forgot about (I guess that makes 5; haven't even opened BioShock...yet) : MatthewPhillips
• Forza 2 (is that special edition with all the DLC out yet? if so get that) Crackdown Mass Effect Dead ... : Toraz Chryx
• Crackdown, Bioshock, Braid, Gears, Halo 3, Viva Pinata, Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon Advanced... : Jstroh
• you should buy mine! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230284320709&ssPageName=STRK... : bozer
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  Wifi adapter, I'd get an external memory card to save on in case of a RROD, it'll save you from a lot of ... : freakynipples69
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    wifi adapter is overpriced and a WRT54GL is just a better deal and... the harddisk is removable.. ju... : Toraz Chryx
    • nahhhhhhhh. : freakynipples69
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  WAIT! Price cuts are strongly rumored to be coming in just a couple weeks. $50 price cuts on all models (... : Bold
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    Best Buy will refund the difference so not worried about that - thought they already changed the units fr... : malus72
    • Nope, they're still using the year-old Falcon mobos. They have the smaller CPU, and the GPU is slightly d... : Bold
    • make sure you at least get the 60gb premium model. The 20gb model (currently at $300) isn't listed in any... : Prozium
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  At the Store: BioShock Viva Pinata (TRUST ME) When you get home: Braid Geometry Wars (1 + 2) Ca... : Zhaneel
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    The Viva Pinata sequel Trouble In Paradise is out next week, wait for that. : Carnivac
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      I'm unsure. The original had a lot of good, and I always worry about sequels. Though I did hear they mad... : Zhaneel
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        It's basically an all-round improvement of the first game. : Carnivac
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          http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=218695 : Carnivac
          • I know what I want for my Labor Day present.... Though honestly I'll still be sucked into Disgaea. : Zhaneel
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  must haves? Extended Warranty : Silent Wolf
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    Definitely getting that - is the Best Buy one an exchange one , as in they just give you a new one or equ... : malus72
    • It should be. definitely check into it (and don't trust was the sales monkey tells you) since BB may have... : Prozium
    • Costco will do an across the counter exchange indefinitely and it doesn't cost extra. : SenorSpine
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      I believe you can only do it ONCE. So if it RROD's and you get it replaced, your extended warranty is don : Bold
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        Honestly if I can get 2 years out of it including a replacement somewhere in there I'd be fine with that ... : malus72
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          Some people have had two or more replacements in a single year. With the newer Falcon mobos that's hopefu... : Bold
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            Well I'm hoping if I get it tonight/tomorrow/this weekend that would make it till the newer ones were out... : malus72
            • keep in mind that MS extended the RROD errors for 3 years from date of purchase. The turnaround time has ... : Prozium
            • get the warranty from microsoft bro, trust me on this. : Silent Wolf
  • humorous : Jstroh
  • yeah. my dvd tray just shit the bed tonight... after I had rented two games :( wasted 20 dollaz : kgargonmagrix79
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  Lost Odyssey is a great JRPG : adsriordan
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    You are a dirty dirty liar. : Zhaneel
    • Oh wait, um misread. Plz ignore/delete/nuke. : Zhaneel
• best buy is fucking rad, i love that warranty. : dahanese
• the BB warranty is a one-time thing though right? Like when we got Rock Band, the friend that bought it ... : DinK

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  ...weapons frog?? : zerog83
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    Yeah, all of the weapons you find are stored in the belly of a giant frog. : brickmatt
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      makes sense to me : zehh
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        I mean, why wouldn't they be? : brickmatt
        • you present an excellent, concise, and well thought out argument. : zerog83
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          It's where I keep all my stuff! : enyakk
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            I keep my animals in the barn. But stuff? In the frog. : brickmatt
            • Well you wouldn't keep animals in the frog would you? I mean, they'd be all digestedy after a while : carbontree
  • Oh, what, like your praying mantis pouch is available in 2008 now? : ieGod
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  You guys are missing out. I need more XBL buddies to play this with! : brickmatt
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    are you on my list of other players that are currently active on XBL? : zerog83
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      Dunno. Add me if my list has room. : brickmatt
      • * A D D ' D * : zerog83
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    we have jobs dude. I will be on tonight. : bagelcc
    • I was on last night. Yay Hawaiian time. : brickmatt
    • seriously...already excited about playing this when i get home. : byorn
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  I gotta remember to grab this tonight. : Carnivac
  • Yes please. We will have good times. For sure. : brickmatt
• getting tonight add meeeeeeeee: EXTREMEBUBBA : Jstroh
• I love a good beat-em-up. Definitely going to try the demo. Not sure if I'll have time to play tonight. : Bull
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  I just played the trail. I think the only way I would play this game to completion is in coop but it'd b... : sKetchflow
  • Coop is the only way to play a game like this. : brickmatt
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  Buying this is the first thing I'm doing when I get home tonight. : dravalen
  • You better. : brickmatt
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  wasn't impressed really by the single player demo. coop will probably be sweet tho. : mwasher
  • Single player beat em up is dull. Coop is hilarious and badass. It's worth getting for coop. : brickmatt
• Add me, gamertag ConfusedUs, if you want to play this game tonight. I AM GOING TO ROCK : ConfusedUs
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  I can't decided which dude I want to be. : brickmatt
  • Blue Power Ranger : djkenohki
  • i picked blue, but i think im going to switch to white. : pandastrong
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    I'm pretty sure what color you choose changes your magical effect, but I'm not sure on that. I've only be... : AgentPothead
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      Electricity Fire Poison Ice : djkenohki
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        don't forget Arrows! (first unlockable character) : graah
        • I got that but it didn't save so I have to do it again. =( : brickmatt
• This game has drawn me back to live play: Add Graah : graah
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  Feel free to add me. Fayk (WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED) I'll almost certainly be buying this when I get hom... : Fayk
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    Let's crash some castles later : Head Rush
    • Crashing is what I do best. To, uh, castles. : Fayk
• Add me, I just picked it up and it's aweosme: melkore4003 : melkore
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  I'm about to start a game with my son in like 15 minutes. He loves this game already. I'll probably be... : ConfusedUs
  • Live is borked, they need to patch the game. http://www.destructoid.com/castle-crashers-crashing-xbox-... : ant_hillbilly
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  Add me up everyone. Xbox live tag = l3ftonm32 : ant_hillbilly
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    Yeah, sorry we didn't reinvite you. You lagged out of our game and we were in the middle of a long level.... : mittense
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      how is it working online for you mittense? i'll be purchasing after dinner / spending time with female. : mwasher
      • It's working alright for me but ant_hillbilly was having problems hosting and staying in our game. The ga... : mittense
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  I'm not sure if I'd play this game by myself but with full co-op it's absolutely rad. The hit detection a... : mittense
  • Coop is a cluster fuck but it's suppose to be. : brickmatt
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  fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck online coop will not work for me in this game. Goddammit : sevogajre
  • They're aware and working on a fix. But yeah that blows. Sorry. =( : brickmatt
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  I enjoyed flying around on a diarrhea powered reindeer. : jenisthebest
  • you enjoyed that a little too much : dantastic
• God my lightsaber playing with Mitt... good stuffs! : stonedonkey
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  Anyone up for some love? : brickmatt
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    If I can convince Head Rush to play we have three Shackers down with CC. : mittense
    • Yeah. Let's crash some motherfucking castles. : mittense
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  you forced me to buy this you bitch : sKetchflow
  • You love me. : brickmatt
• damn't brickmatt... i bought this damn game because of you now >:( : sKetchflow