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  REDWOOD CITY, Calif., Aug 14, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- The wait is almost over! Electronic Arts Inc. and M... : MorrisatCNN
  • Holy shit. Gold to retail in..3 weeks? Crazy. : EvilDolemite
  • o_O well well well. now we need some more 'custom' creations to celebrate!!! : Downforce
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    Wow, no way was I expecting this to come out before Fall 09. : Horn
    • Seriously? They've had the release date set for a pretty long time. : Vincent Grayson
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  what kind of protection is this game using? isnt it like crippled by punk buster and securom? : oHnOES
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    Same as Mass Effect PC, no? : SilverSnake
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      I thought this was supposed to have some limit to the amount of times you could install. : byorn
      • yes - like Mass Effect does : yuried
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    secuROM, online validation, limited installs : FushigiDenki
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      Online validation every ten days to be specific. : FushigiDenki
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        haha ok this is one game ... that will be popular with the pirates let's just say. : gakera
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          probably would be if it had no protection. : chungathebunga
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            I think he is saying that this'll make more people pirate it than would have otherwise. : FushigiDenki
            • i know. : chungathebunga
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              the number of people that don't realize that they dropped the 10-day check almost immediately leads me to... : xsoulbrothax
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                Okay, so it's still a pita, I'll still pass on installing secuROM and dealing with getting more than 3 in... : FushigiDenki
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                  How many machines will you need to install it on? Also you can get more. : EvilDolemite
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                    None, I don't want secuROM on any of my machines. : FushigiDenki
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                      You must not play a lot of PC games? Looking at your library, Dreamfall, SW: Empire at War and Crysis all... : xsoulbrothax
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                        Pretty much all of my PC games are Steam games, DOD:S, CS:S, TF2, or old games like Diablo 2, Fallout, et... : FushigiDenki
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                          point is, you've already got securom. steam versions of games with securom don't always strip the securom... : xsoulbrothax
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                            No, I don't. It is not on my machine. Anything else you'd like to tell me about my computer? I don't h... : FushigiDenki
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                              I was just looking at your games library. :) You had Crysis, Dreamfall and SW: EaW + expansion on there. ... : xsoulbrothax
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                                Dreamfall exists for Xbox 1. You're just going to have to trust me when I say that secuROM has never bee... : FushigiDenki
                                • you should try _____ games. : zerog83
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                              You have Crysis though. Like it or not, SecuROM is on your computer if you've played Crysis recently. : zerog83
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                                Nope, it's not. : FushigiDenki
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                                  you have securom on your machine and your mouth is a vagina : boring gegtik
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                                    Like those guys in Dune? : FushigiDenki
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                                      http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/dune/images/thumb/5/5e/Guild_navigator_dune_movie.jpg/180px-Guild_navig... : FushigiDenki
                                      • :O do you guys wear old spice while on the job to keep the stress at bay? : xsoulbrothax
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                    I have a laptop and a desktop, both capable of running Spore. That is two activations right there. I ch... : Arcanum
                    • I agree that it's stupid, but perhaps sadly my desire to play Spore outweighs the potential issue of havi... : EvilDolemite
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                  Same here. "Oh hey, I ONLY have to email them and ask nicely to get more installations! How nice of th... : zehh
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                    PITA, yes. most people frame it like 3 installs period and you're done, which is just plain untrue. : xsoulbrothax
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                      It's pretty damn close to true. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17669539#itemanchor_17669539 : Arcanum
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                        The Simprograms article was based off a mistake in the popup that Bioware acknowledged and fixed 3 days a : xsoulbrothax
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                          That's not the point, and you know it. The point is that you are effectively limited to three installs, ... : Arcanum
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                            ah, no.. i didn't know that was the point, honestly! i'm used to most people thinking it's 3 installs and... : xsoulbrothax
                            • But still annoying as fuck. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17669618#itemanchor_17669618 : zehh
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                what happens when you format? you dont uninstall you are fucked like the whole bioshock fiasco : oHnOES
                • Obviously you just don't know anything cause xsoulbro got it figured out, right xsouldbro? : FushigiDenki
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                  You are given unlimited installs on up to three machines. Not three installs total. : EvilDolemite
                  • That's not correct. At best, you get unlimited installs on three specific hardware configuration/OS inst... : Arcanum
          • pfft, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17667289#itemanchor_17669021 in short, bad DRM = more pirate... : gakera
      • Dude, they dropped that after the internet backlash a long time ago. : deject
      • Yeah, they aren't doing that one. : mittense
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      yep this was it. 3 installs right? : oHnOES
      • Last I checked it was 3, yes. : FushigiDenki
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      bleh. I'll wait until it's on steam or something. : ]pm[chem
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        I don't think it'll ever be on steam : jenisthebest
        • Pretty safe bet. : pyrogen
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          I'd gladly buy it off steam, no fucking way I'm paying for a disk that has to be wrapped around my cock f... : gakera
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            the game doesn't require the disc to play? just install : xsoulbrothax
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              you're misinterpreting him : FushigiDenki
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                this thread has done wonders to damage my faith in how much people know about the things they're complain... : xsoulbrothax
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                  Go go EA defender! secuROM is in the product, online activation is required, and the # of installs are l... : FushigiDenki
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                    up to speed? you didn't even realize the 10-day check hasn't ever existed, since they dropped the idea we... : xsoulbrothax
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                      It did exist at one point, there were even petitions about it. Put that in your cheerios! : FushigiDenki
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                        and it hasn't for MONTHS. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17669134#itemanchor_17669134 this is ... : xsoulbrothax
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                          Your statement was "hasn't ever existed" which is not true. End of line. : FushigiDenki
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                            Okay, what game had the 10-day check? :) I picked the phrase 'hasn't ever existed' because they never act... : xsoulbrothax
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                              What game do you think? : FushigiDenki
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                                I'm pretty sure the answer is going to either be some obscure game I didn't know about, or no game. Or ma... : xsoulbrothax
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                                  Spore. The original intent was to have 10-day check. If you insist on word games then by your definitio... : FushigiDenki
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                                    That was Mass Effect's original intent too, and... it doesn't have it. Sigh. I like dealing with what's a... : xsoulbrothax
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                                      That's fine, and I was wrong about that and never said otherwise. I don't go to spore.com and check up o... : FushigiDenki
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                                        The only people hurt here are people buying the game and EA because they will lose sales because of this. : FushigiDenki
                                        • yeah.. i didn't really follow it closely, i'm just a cynical SOB and continued following the story after ... : xsoulbrothax
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              Are you asking or telling? Either way it sounds like I can wrap the disk around my cock to play the game.... : gakera
              • i think there's an EA Japan office, and you know they'll working on that with optional tentacle expansion... : xsoulbrothax
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        You'll be waiting a whie. It's an EA game. They have their own digital distribution. : mroizo40
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          Yeah, but haven't they been looking to buy Valve? : ChibiJosh
          • I'm sure they would love to buy Valve. Gabe has said they're happy to talk about being bought, not that ... : deject
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          And it sucks : ErikTehRed
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            The client and such is fine but the limited download period is fucking absurd beyond words. : mittense
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              i don't know how the hell they get away with doing that, even justifying it to themselves by any mental s... : xsoulbrothax
              • thank god they haven't limited my ability to download the booster packs for BF2 and 2142. I'd be serious... : deject
      • Yeah, because the Steam release of Bioshock prevented Securom's copy protection. : mittense
    • Nice so basically only the customer has to deal with that shit, the pirates will not have to worry about ... : dilutedq
  • * 1 9 8 4 ' D * : grayscale
• Oh simity snap! : gakera
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  Yay, maybe someday when they get rid of the bs protection scheme they're using I'll buy it. : FushigiDenki
  • Yup - same here. Want the game, but no way I'm agreeing to those terms. When they treat me like a custo... : genom
  • yeah, fuck EA. : skryte
• please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck... : aethyr
• PLEASE let this game not suck : phate81
• Oh hell yeah. I may get a new video card to play this and crysis. Can't fucking wait. : handofthrawn
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  Followed by * N E V E R E N D I N G E X P A N S I O N S ' D * : Wolfanoz
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    Waiting for the IKEA Galaxy Expansion. : zakazi
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      lol blërg galaxy : gakera
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        Planet FARTFULL JERKER DUKTIG : Wolfanoz
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          >:( ë isn't a Swedish letter. :P : SilverSnake
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            I'm sorry but sweedish is the shitheel of the umlaut world - we ourselves only have one :P And you guys h... : gakera
            • Dies ist eine unabhängige Übergangslösung, wir bitten um Verständnis. <- Not Swedish^^ : Lukiopimp
            • Not even close to all of them. :P We have å ä ö but there's also ü, ÿ and ï, and then there's stuff... : SilverSnake
        • Sup : PlanetPerfecto
  • SPORE: The Search for More Money : phate81
• fuck I need a new computer ASAP : davidc02
• Hurray! That Galactic Edition sounds sweet! : ChibiJosh
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  the more I see of this game, the more I have a feeling it's going to suck ass and Will Wright's presentat... : moe6
  • this is how i feel : feek
  • i thought the procederal part would be so much cooler and play more into the stats of the creature. now ... : oHnOES
• Hooray! Hopefully my wife won't get mad that I buy myself a game on her birthday. : Vincent Grayson
• plz don't suck plz don't suck plz don't suck plz don't... : reverend~heresy
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  http://www.disgruntledtv.com/Videos/RandomMorris.mov : socksta
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    L. O. fucking. L. : MorrisatCNN
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      I made it awesomer, http://www.disgruntledtv.com/Videos/MORRIS.mov : socksta
      • rofl this is awesome. please save this and find an excuse to use it later, mr morris : xsoulbrothax
      • This post needs more love! : deveus1
      • oh man. awesome : ant_hillbilly
      • omg lol : NeoMoose
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  There goes my Fall classes : askedrelic
  • ^^^^^^^^^^^^ : aaarrrgh
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  All the good stuff is coming next month. Spore, RB2, Iron Man on DVD. There's nothing going on this month... : Geoffrois
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    bionic commando rearmed, too human, mercenaries 2 : dantastic
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      mercs 2 is this month? oh no, my budget is fucked :( : xsoulbrothax
      • it is? I thought it got delayed again. : edgewise
      • august 31st on ps3, 360 and PC. not sure whether to get it on pc or 360 at this point : dantastic
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    mercenaries motherfucking 2 august 31 : JINKY
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      Holy fucking shit. My day just got a load better. Like edgewise, I thought it was delayed. Time for some ... : djkenohki
      • Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway got delayed to September. I think everyone is confusing Merc 2 with that... : wretchedradio
  • Don't forget Clear Skies and the Enhanced Witcher Edition. : phate81
• Hope there's a demo of the actual gameplay. I'm very excited about the concepts behind user-generated ... : Damodred
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  BLACK AND WHITE 3 : boring gegtik
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    GEGTIK : Sexpansion Pack
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      DON'T DO THIS : Sexpansion Pack
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        HAHA I CAN MAKE TEH PENIS SHIAP CREATUR : boring gegtik
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          gegtik you're so meta : manero
          • it ate its poop XD : boring gegtik
        • PICS + DIVX! : m0rfus

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  F/4 sucks, but that might just be my preference. I neeeeeeeed at least f/2.8 : wtf242
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    Yeah but do you know how the 2.8 costs? The f4 alone is $1200 :( : re-verse
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      i have a 24-70 F/2.8L and i don't think it was $1,200.. maybe it was : wtf242
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        Well right now she has the 18-55, so getting her the 24-70 would not be much of an upgrade for range... t... : re-verse
        • I have the 18-55 F/2.8, and I do like it, except for its limited range. I kinda wish I went for 24-70. : shyguy74
      • it was. : sumo-hacker
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  www.fredmiranda.com/reviews : FrayLo
  • Or to be more specific: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=295&sort=7&cat=27&page... : devnullgt
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  Gawd I wish I could afford L lenses. This is my walk-around lens: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-17-85mm-4-5 : Arctic Fox
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    noob question. Why does it suck for indoor? Why is a 50 better? : malloc
    • The 50 is better because the aperture is larger, meaning you can open it up more and get faster shutters ... : mroizo40
    • f4 doesn't let enough light in for indoor photography (well, without either a flash or a tripod). The nif : Arctic Fox
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  oh i get gifts for being a good girl? yay. : arcane_
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    Didn't he just buy you an XSi the other month? Talk about a sugar daddy. : Silent Jay
    • yerp. he sure did and i love it. he's not my sugar daddy. i don't need a sugardaddy. i guess that's just ... : arcane_
    • Trust me, for everything she does for me I barely keep up. She is awesome, and if I was to buy her a lens... : re-verse
• I've heard good things about that lens, though I've never used it. It's a good walk-around lens, though ... : DHAvatar
• A fine choice. : davantalus
• I have this lens. i love it and use it as my primary. if u want to see what i shot with it, let me know : whereiwannab
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  If you're gonna spend the money on a L lens, that's an excellent choice. : mattfl
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    Agreed, they're pricey, but absolutely top quality lenses. The cheapest L lens I've found is the 75-200 ... : deadhorse
    • Yep that one's on my to-buy list, probably the only L lens I can afford I'd say. : Arctic Fox
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  It's a very good lens from everything I've seen. Anyone have experience with any of Canon's ultrawide zoo... : mroizo40
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    If you're shooting on a cropped sensor DSLR 17-40 is really not that wide. : trevis
    • I'm on a 5D : mroizo40
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  I have this lens and generally its pretty good. I've found it to be pretty sharp with nice bokeh and a qu... : ashkie
  • Also, I use this lens for outdoor daytime use only. Its not very good in low light but thats what you'd e... : ashkie
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  those graphs scare the shit out of my - WHAT DOES IT MEAN IT'S ALL GOING DOWN! : gakera
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    It's a measure of distortion : mroizo40
    • yeah, but there's like 8 different series and none of them are labeled - It's like my worst nightmare! SO... : gakera
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  Another Canon lens question. I wanna buy a macro lens, is the canon 100mm f/2.8 the best choice/most reco... : mattfl
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    I just bought this lens. I really like it but the AF hunts a lot after a distance to glass. Its also a de... : ashkie
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      Cool, mind telling me how much you paid for it? : mattfl
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        I think it was around 470. : ashkie
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          Cool, that's what I'm seeing it new. I've been hunting the canon forums looking for someone selling their... : mattfl
          • also it doesn't come with a lens hood so keep that in mind if you order online. : ashkie
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      Ashkie - I had no idea you were another Chicago photographer. So far thats Arctic Fox, Arcane_, you and m... : re-verse
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        But he's got a 5D, we would simply wither in the face of such pure concentrated awesome. : Arctic Fox
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          the next version of the 5d should be out this fall. I'm going to be launch-daying that one :) : re-verse
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            you and me both. 5d is great but i'd like the option of live view, and better low light capabilities. the... : ashkie
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              I hate you both and all your money hats :( : Arctic Fox
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                get a job, hippy! : ashkie
                • hahahaha unfortunately for me, science research has never payed terribly well. : Arctic Fox
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              Man, I think the 5D does ISO 1600 extremely competently and I don't hesitate using 3200 or even pushing. : scythide
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                I dunno, I feel I lose too much IQ near 1600 and its required to use something like neatimage. : ashkie
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                  Obviously these examples are not 100% crops but they're both taken in 1600 ISO and I think the detail hol... : scythide
                  • hmm, maybe I just need to play with it more. : ashkie
            • I'm happy with mine, I just wish the LCD was easier to read in daylight. : mroizo40
            • The live view means nothing to me, but low light, and hopefully a stronger dynamic range would make make ... : re-verse
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    I use it quite a bit. It's great for shooting small objects, catching insects, or shooting the stamen in... : DHAvatar
    • ^^ this. I was using a high powered flashlight to light up my subjects because I didn't have a ring flash... : ashkie
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  Don't write off Sigma lenses, particularly the EX line. They hold up very favorably compared to Cannon L ... : ChibiJosh
  • Plus, they make this ridiculous beast: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3349&na... : ChibiJosh
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    What are some good ones to compare? : ashkie
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      24 - 70 Canon ($1190): http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=149&mod : ChibiJosh
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        I had the sigma 70-200 f/2.8 before. It was awesome! I took it over to our photography department where t... : mattfl
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          Yeah, my walkaround lens, a Sigma 18-200 f/2.8 with image stab. is a fantastic piece of equipment. Fabul... : Enkidu
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            since when does sigma make a 18-200 f/2.8? : mattfl
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              Yeah I don't think it's possible or at least not for walk around capability.. : Razputin
              • they make a 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 but that's all I see. Hell the sigma 70-200 f/2.8 I had was such a huge lens... : mattfl
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            18-200 f2.8? I really didn't think such a lens exists. Can you lift it with one arm? Maybe you mean 70-20... : re-verse
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              Apparenlty they do http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3324&navigator=6 I didn... : mroizo40
              • But it's not f2.8 I guess : mroizo40
              • That isn't a 2.8 lens. Their 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 is pretty poorly reviewed compared to Nikon's version. : d3tached
              • a 2.8 version of that lens could easily cost 10x more. : re-verse
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        The few sigmas I did try were for cropped sensors and had nasty barrel distortion and vignetting on my 5d... : ashkie
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          Fellow 5D user! Do you have experience with the Canon 17-40mm ultrawide? I'm considering it for my next l... : mroizo40
          • I had one of those too, but I was using it on a 300d. Probably one of canon's best and most recommended l... : mattfl
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            yes I do, its a great lens if thats what you're going for. Some people prefer it over the 16-35 even. : ashkie
            • Great, thanks for the info. I'll probalby pick this up when I've got the money. : mroizo40
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        You're comparing Canon zoom lenses to Sigma macro lenses? : FPSDavid
        • They're both zoom lenses with the same range and speed. The fact that the Sigma can do Macro is a bonus, ... : ChibiJosh
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    They are good lenses, but quality seems to be hit-and-miss. At least from what I recall when I bought my... : deadhorse
    • I think the EX models have much higher quality than their standard lenses. : ChibiJosh
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    What about Tamron lenses? : c0bra
    • They have some hits and misses. I love my 17-50 f/2.8 from them. Would recommend it to anyone looking for... : mattfl
    • In general Sigma > Tamron : deadhorse
• I was trying to decide between this lens and the EF24-70 2.8L (no IS) ended up going with the 2.8 because... : mlev
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  IMO it's better suited for a full-frame camera (is the camera full frame or crop?) I own one for my 5D... : scythide
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    im still loving my 135mm. Best lens ever. : ashkie
    • If I could only keep one lens, that would be it. : scythide
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  I have that lens and I think it's great. But on a 1.6 crop camera the 25 is often not wide enough. What c... : Tissen
  • I've got a 10-22 she can use when she wants the ultrawide. It is on a 1.6 crop cam, for now. : re-verse

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  With the exception of XBLA auto-downloads, I've stopped downloading demos. : RomSteady
  • I like the XBLA ones, probably one of the things I like best about 360 since I picked one up. : stonedonkey
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  Never bought Oblivion because of the lack of a demo. : Attica Blue
  • And yes, demos definitely matter to me. There are too many games to count where I DL'ed a demo, tried it,... : Attica Blue
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  i don't really do demos any more. i usually already know if i'm going to like the game based on the desc... : electroly
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    although i guess in a couple situations the demo has prevented me from buying a game i thought i would li... : electroly
    • Same. I was eagerly awaiting for UT3, would surely buy, but played the demo and was instantly put off by ... : zehh
• 50% demos / 35% Shack/Qt3 15% friend recommendations. Sometimes a demo can decide me against forumhype... : Damodred
• I pretty much only try demos of innovative games or types of games that I haven't played before. : SockMonkeh
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  I would have never bought Civ Rev if it wasn't for the demo; demos are great when you are not sure if you... : flagg209
  • same, I wasn't sure about civ rev, but the demo convinced me to buy it. : azenmaster
  • And I would have bought it and regretted it, if not for the demo. :D : Damodred
• I really like the 360 marketplace and used to try Fileshack demos all the time. It helps if there is one... : azenmaster
• you can watch the RE5 trailer, there's no spoilers in it. And it looks awesome. : grandmasterlee
• There are games that are so large and are praised before they are released like Gears of War and Dead Ris... : Begawkiness
• I tend not to buy games I cant demo, even when they score 90%+. There are few exceptions : Maarten Goldstein
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  With so many sequels and games coming from established developers these days, I rarely feel like I need a... : Vincent Grayson
  • Yeah. That's kind of why I asked. I think more demos make me uninterested in games instead of making me w... : mittense
• The last game I bought after trying the demo was UT2k4. Before that it was Win98 era. So in other words d... : ieGod
• For action, puzzles and types where the gameplay remains the same all the way through - yes. I want a dem... : avatar_58
• I usually won't buy a game unless I can play a demo first... I've been suckered into spending $60 on stea... : MagicWishMonkey
• I would of never bought COD4 had there not been a demo. Some new games can run on shit systems if you hav... : Iwannaacura
• Unless it's from a developer that has a good track record of consistently producing great titles like say... : Chod
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  I'm always interested in demos of new games, like skate. Never would have bought that game sight unse... : pyide
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    as for "does playing a demo increase your willingness to buy a full game (on average)?" I'd say yes, ... : pyide
    • Eden is a good example of a recent game. Even though it was inexpensive, I wasn't going to buy some out t... : pyide
• If a game seems somewhat interesting and there's a demo, I'll check out the demo, but I usually base my p... : pukerat
• Demos saved me hundreds of dollars in the past year. : Cashh
• It makes a big difference. If the demo is tight I'm way more likely to buy the game, but occasionally if ... : WildDanimal
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  I played the fuck out of the Master of Magic demo. :( : geedeck
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    What are you trying to say? : mittense
    • I'm just saying that games with qualities similar to Master of Magic likely have an limited but illustrat... : geedeck
• There are two groups of games I have a chance of buying: games I will definitely buy no questions asked, ... : walker270
• I like demos, but i'm probably who the publisher's hate and why they might stop doing demos. A bad or me : boredguy
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  Tiger Woods demo just made me *NOT* buy it. : Skoal^Fyfan
  • explain why : Deathlove
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    No, don't tell me this! Downloading now, I had such high hopes :-( : Head Rush
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      Thought it was pretty good myself. Probably gonna buy this one. : pyide
      • I'm playing through it now, and it seems like a lot of fun. Definitely going to buy it since I skipped o... : Head Rush
• Demos are important to me in two cases - when I'm not sure my system can even run the game, or when I'm n... : Schnapple
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  I usually buy games based on buzz around the games, not demos. : dael
  • This is so alien to me. : Damodred
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  I bought GRiD, Penny Arcade, Bioshock (PC), Ninja Gaiden II (soon as I get the funds) and several RPGs be... : Demius
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    RPGs, really? I've always felt like RPG demos are the worst out there...hell, half the time, I'll play th... : Vincent Grayson
    • mostly, what I look at in an RPG demo IS the combat system... To me the combat is one of the backbones of... : Demius
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  I bought StardustHD after playing the demo.. i was hooked : Wshmaster0
  • Me too. Also, BF1942 was completely off my radar until the demo came out and owned my soul. : SatansFist
• Demos make or break a game purchase for me. It can get me totally hooked on the game (Bioshock, Prey) or ... : ion_pulse
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  Demos suck anymore. I miss the days of Quake or Unreal Tournament where you got a metric shitload of gam... : bipolar
  • I was really shocked with the too human demo. It gave you about an hour of game play w/ full cut scenes a... : sigpro
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    COd4 was a perfect demo imo. : Iwannaacura
    • i probably wouldnt have bought cod4 without being in the beta. after how cod2 was more of the same and t... : dantastic
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    I remember when the Blood Demo gave you the first act! : skitzo
    • Yeah, they did that a lot back in the shareware days. Doom, quake, commander keen, wolf3d, duke3d, shadow... : lapskaus
  • The Daggerfall demo was the best. You were limited to Summerfell Isle but the time limit was extremely lo... : ErikTehRed
• I just bought Braid on XBL on the strength of the demo. But I don't know if in general playing a demo in... : afty
• I rarely buy a game if there is a demo for it. With my time as restricted as it is and with so many games... : sammyl
• Usually a lot for PC but not because I want to try it out or anything, it's just to see if it'll run well... : K1Bond007
• It makes or breaks all purchases for me. If there is no demo, I usually wait to see what you guys say... : tomservo
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  I"m not a big demo guy. : edgewise
  • i always liked the scout better. : doomed
• Between person preferences, online media and friends I know what I want and what I don't 90% of the time.... : astonish
• I always use demos to decide if I want to buy a game or not. Often though it's the latter, because there'... : BobbySnake
• Demos can change my mind either way. Dark Messiah's demo was 'wow this might be fun!,' as was The Witcher... : xsoulbrothax
• the only way i'll buy a game without a demo is if it reviews well. i wouldnt have been set to get too hu... : dantastic
• I only play demos if i'm super hyped for a game and the demo comes out first. : lapskaus
• It's not often that I buy a game out of the blue. I can honestly say that the only demo that made me buy ... : RogerDandy
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  Its 50% 50% for me. Demos in some way do make me lean towards a buying decision a lot faster then if the... : ps2rules300
  • yeah if you had a good experience in the demo you still kinda want to give it a chance even if it gets ba... : dantastic
• I pretty much don't buy games that don't have demos. : Ebu
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  I was never going to buy them, but I tried the Iron Man and Haze demos on PS3 (really just to try out the... : shyguy74
  • Iron Man was fun :( : Ebu
• I always appreciate a demo, but I'll buy a game on hype and/or word of mouth if I'm interested enough. : Noobler
• I usually know months ahead of release if I will buy a game or not. I dont think a demo has swayed me in... : c_man_tmt
• this is my method, there are many methods, but this one is mine. Is the game price point less than 20 dol... : massdev
• Some games I know I will love (Based on developer, its developer, coverage, etc.) so I buy without a demo... : Sturm08
• I base my decisions heavily on demos most of the time. I bought Crysis on a whim without downloading the... : the archvile
• Demos...ahhh demos. Demos used to mean something. Back when we all hunkered on, down the 56k road. PC ... : unholydonuts
• I bought Bionic Commando Rearmed site unseen today, even though it had a demo. Some games you know will b... : DM7
• Mattplays.com is a far better gauge for me as to whether I might like a game or not. The only thing a ... : Rag and Bone Man
• demos matter, but whether you want one for your game changes on a case by case basis. If the demo isn't ... : Luminair
• I've purchased many games I otherwise would have ignored due to a good demo - sometimes regrettably, as w... : CoreContingency
• Back in the old days, they would give you a representative sample of the game (quake was the whole first ... : malevolence
• Lets just say the odds of me buying a game without a demo to try is drastically smaller than the odds of ... : rougeknife
• I've bought several games due to Demo's on Xbox. On the PC I've never bought a game due to a demo but I h... : Pettytheft
• In my case, Demos have more often then not convince me of not buying the full game rather than the contra... : razlebol
• As often as possible. Demos actually get me to try games I otherwise would not have, as it is just so con... : boughton supreme
• The Bioshock and Witcher demos ensured that I would HAVE to buy both games. Renting MGS4 pretty much sea... : Medieval Barber
• One game: Battlefield 1942. nuf said. : loboca
• I almost always do. I can judge if "the feel" of a game is off by the demo. UT3 is one example of a dem... : OmegaRed59

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  PlanetQuake used to be the shit. : Bamtan
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    Good ol' Dear Mynx... : Gary the Llama
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      Good times. : chungathebunga
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        I remember either going to blue's or PlanetQuake just to read the .plan files... good times. .plan fi... : Maddog_Delphi97
        • I tried to read carmacks, but i was young and it was all over my head. : chungathebunga
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          plan files were sweet. Carmack's updates were the biggest news stories. : mojorisen1117
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            Yeah, I agree. Does he still do one? : Maddog_Delphi97
            • He seems to do more interviews and slashdot posts now instead of .plan posts. : Topaz
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  3dfiles.com : EvilDolemite
  • Hell yes. I used to go there a few times a day to see what new 3d demos came out. : sigpro
  • That was the first URL I would type into my browser every day. Also, RIP ftp.cdrom.com :( : Yanks
  • Fuck, I miss that site. Used to go there every day. : Stoned Gargoyle
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  I used to love a site called sCary's ShugaShack... whatever happened to that place?? : zerog83
  • Ugh. The owner was a douche. Stuff That Sucks? I mean, who wants to read that kind of crap on a gaming we... : Gary the Llama
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    sold out to McDonald's. MMM Mmm McDonalds! I'm lovin' it! : .sticks.
    • Oh damn you. Damn you to hell. Pink boy >:( : dognose
  • Sold to PepsiCo in 2001 and became a Web portal for fast food afficionados : dognose
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  Gone Gold VoodooExtreme years 1998-2000 PlanetQuake : EvilDolemite
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    Wasn't Billy from VE a meth addict or something? : Gary the Llama
    • dunno but he sure like to use the term "reach around" alot : retardhumper
    • Wasn't he really sick for a long time? Don't recall the details, but apparently it was life-threatening.... : deadhorse
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      he hurt his back and got addicted to painkillers. he died a few years ago from liver failure or something... : CoRDS
      • Holy crap, had no idea he died. That sucks. : Gary the Llama
      • VE was great. Sorry to hear about Billy. : Topaz
  • I was a serious Gone Gold lover. : obiquatro
  • Gone Gold is still sort of around in forum form (without the Road to Gold stuff) at octopusoverlords.com ... : valael
• tsden.com for all my C&C news. : hoov1185
• voodooextreme was one I went to a lot. I also watched a lot of CS pro-gaming back in the day so ShackES a... : ShekkyBoy
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  used to go to happypuppy for all the demos but no longer. : sjpeters79
  • Holy crap, I totally forgot about HappyPuppy. There was another one back around that time... GameSlice... : Gary the Llama
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  stomped.com -- how did the shack get this far without mentioning redwood's site? : ]pm[chem
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    Anyone know what Redwood is up to these days? : Gary the Llama
    • selling slurpees at 7/11 : Phreakin
    • about 6'8. *rimshot* : judasen
  • EOT here! : hashd
• I used to go there all the time, then someday I realized most of the news there were minor stuff about ga... : Geoffrois
• i miss Heat.net. I still have my footsoldier dogtags. : NeoMoose
• shackes.com : jono181
• TheGia = roxor : breadsticks
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  happypuppy.com was THE place to get game demos : oHnOES
  • Haha wow I completely forgot about happypuppy : SatansFist
  • i was downloading stuff from there on my shitty baud modems for the longest time.. i remember trying to f... : jane911
  • holy crap! Wasn't it "Happy Puppy's Games Onramp"? Ahh the information super highway : grasshoppah
  • if you're going there, then mention ftp.cdrom.com! : epit
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    happypuppy spawned one of the great human trainwrecks of our time http://encyclopediadramatica.com/JDR : Deathlove
    • Thank you Deathlove. Please pass me the mindbleach. : zanzares
    • yep I read this all : Foxhawk
    • every so often, I realize that hyper connectived-ness and the internet has a down side. holy fucking s... : Antilles_Prime
  • This very much. : ryuuseki
  • Oh my god, I remember reading the walkthroughs for The Neverhood and Sam and Max when I got stuck in thos... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
• Back when Blues was all about Quake it was the site to visit. Those days are long gone. : Colleton
• rivazone.com and g256.com. I remember only being able to afford an nvidia riva 128 and being so jealous ... : bcyde
• Remember all the Planet sites? PlanetQuake, PlanetHalf-Life, etc. I used to visit PlanetQuake before all... : pun][sher
• I used to love MacGamersLedge... there was nothing ledge-like about it : grasshoppah
• I used to be a webmaster at stomped.com when I was 16 and Quake was pre-Qtest. Ah, glory days! : spyrext
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  N64HQ.com or was it .net? : sketchuout
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    Didn't they sell out to IGN? : mad-d00d
    • I thought it was IGN64.com before it became just IGN : ErikTehRed
• The only reason I ever went to bluesnews was to read .plan files. Mainly just paul steeds plan file. : twifosp
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  blues is shacknews with more news and less comments. and blues front page doesn't look like a san franci... : Luminair
  • Yeah but Shacknews reports on news I care about, with funny headlines and funny pictures. Blue's is just.... : Gary the Llama
• wierd i did this the other day too. Had the exact same reaction too, its crazy, it took me way back. Its ... : disembodied potato
• oh for any uk old quakers out there i'm sure barrysworld will ring a bell, man that was an awesome commun... : disembodied potato
• Planet Half-Life during the whole Walter's World period was pretty neat. : quadeh
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  old man murray. the internet is no longer funny without those guys :( : mega man
  • yeah this : feek
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    Old Man Murray had three important things it will be remembered for: - That picture of an angry Ted Tu... : Dave-A
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      What about its examination of the cat hair puzzle in Gabriel Knight 3 and why adventure games are dead? : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      • speaking of that game series. did anyone remember a certain point in the first GK game where you had t... : -=kodiak=-
  • I don't think it made a very big splash on the internet, but that portal game with the cube and the cake ... : geedeck
• I think bluesnews is loaded with good content - but lacks a pretty face; which to me isn't that important... : tangles
• UnrealNation! Props to the mwasher, washer of spinning UN globes! : Audhuml4
• Were all the planet sites part of a network? I remember Planet-Halflife, Planet-Shogo, im sure a few hun... : mojorisen1117
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  I used to visit bluesnews, stomped, shacknews and voodoo extreme ( in that order ). Obviously, it's just ... : malevolence
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    all those you mention (but not in that order) and redwood also (wasn't that on stomped or?) : humbleone
    • That turned into stomped at some point. I used to visit there first. : malevolence
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  The unofficial square soft home page :( r.i.p. and r.i.p. square soft :( : jayares
  • I don't go to it anymore but I like that blue's has pretty much stayed the same, something to look at and... : jayares
• New Vore Times represent! : kenmis
• Old Man Murray :( : Serpico74
• Remember shackes : CoRDS
• shugashack.com : rosewood
• still going i guess http://ac.warcry.com/ : feek
• Avault.com .. it might as well be gone now. : dafugg
• gamedemo.com or gamedemos.com , was a pretty cool site i hit daily. : dignan
• I remember Immy trolling Blue's News on Pointless Audio, which is what got me Shacking. : BlackCat9
• banned for leaving : ninjase
• gonegold : feek
• Wait, what came first... Blue's News or Blue's Clues. Interesting... : killabi
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  Planetquake was awesome before they made planeteverything : Judecca
  • planetfruitbat : dmason
• Shackes : Slowtreme
• dood. back in teh day, shack BLOG was hawesome! : Antilles_Prime
• voodooextreme was interesting for a while, and then i think drama behind the scenes made it implode someh... : Antilles_Prime
• Sites shouldn't have to change unless they're improving their functionality or losing the ugly. : Lone Swordsman

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  this looked bad from the word go, like it should've just gone straight to DVD : spigot
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    agreed - saw trailers for this before a couple of recent flicks. Everything just seemed very sub par. H... : dedgecko
    • shoulda stuck with the cartoon network clone wars animation style. : cpt_gloval
• The reviewers attended a screening had a street date embargo attached and two places broke the embargo: A... : RomSteady
• Who cares about AICN? : FushigiDenki
• AICN reviews are a total crapshoot, they have no bearing on reality whatsoever that said i'm pretty su... : JINKY
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  people look way too deeply into star wars. its just a kids movie and always has been. This isn't Titus An... : not work safe
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    With the exception of ROTJ, I'd say the original trilogy were more family movies than just kids' movies, ... : doc.solo
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      well, the original trilogy were in the same style as the first 3 indiana jones movies, ie, watchable for ... : Antilles_Prime
      • those were so shallow though. they had like zero dialogue and were comprised almost entirely of fight sc... : mikecyb
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        You weren't the same age when you saw IV-VI and I-III. I think that has the biggest bearing on all of th... : jake
        • I was young(~10 i think)when episode 1 came out and hadn't seen the original movies. I thought it was bad... : re4ctor
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  I wouldn't call the original trilogy kids' movies. : silent prophet
  • err, this is a reply to not work safe. :/ : silent prophet
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  Nothing good will ever come from the Star Wars franchise again. You can just write it off. Unless they... : dirge23
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    I'm sure Lucas would have a hand in it, and god only knows what that would result in. : stonedonkey
    • Jar Jar Binks destroys the 3rd Death Star. : cause&effect
    • racing missions : cpt_gloval
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      The same thing that happened to Star Fox. : Finestaut
      • Don't remind me :(. I honestly wish Sony or Microsoft could get a hold of that and make an game with lot... : Malku
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        huh? Star Fox and Star Fox 64 were awesome. and, though i never played it, i heard the GC Star Fox game... : Korban
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          plus it gave the world krystal porn : GloriousCow
          • is that like Krystal Pepsi, see through and tastes disgusting? : deathofrats
        • Heard wrong. Star Fox Adventures was completely unsuitable for Star Fox because it was an adventure game.... : K1Bond007
        • Star Fox and Star Fox 64 were awesome. Then they let the animals out of the planes, and the game cube ga... : Finestaut
  • A Bioware MMO appears! : spiderfill
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  It looked horrible seing the trailer in theatre, seriously, whos kidding who, animation looked like it wa... : Melll
  • It's meant for kids but a lot of people are missing out on that fact. : FushigiDenki
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  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/clone_wars/ yeah sound like the George Lucas touch is back (turning gol... : thebigbeefsandwich
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    well to be fair Lucas didn't write the screenplay or direct (he's credited with the story, however) al... : mikecyb
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      sam jackson and christopher lee will be in anything : SockMonkeh
      • that is true : mikecyb
    • Well I'm guessing it's to do with the TV Cast. My guess is that Windu and Dooku won't be featured in the ... : Jonathan
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    ahahaha The new feature-length Star Wars cartoon is so cute that I want to hug it. Tightly. Until it s : losimagic
    • I laughed at that too. : silent prophet
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  why did you have high hopes? : skryte
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    The cartoon network series was good :( : losimagic
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      ^^^ the 2d clone wars was great, well written and well directed. Same exact audience too, but this just... : deathofrats
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        Anyone know why Genndy Tarkovsky didn't do this film? : grandmasterlee
        • he's supposedly working on a Dark Crystal remake/sequel. : deathofrats
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          Probably because A. Wanted too much money B. Thought he had done everything he wanted to w/ Star Wars... : sigpro
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            well its interesting that they copied his style : grandmasterlee
            • This is how the entertainment industry operates. You spend money and take risks with a high quality prod... : Finestaut
        • That would go against the goal of making every new star wars movie suck shit : veras
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      The Clone Wars that previously aired on Cartoon Network was done by Genndy Tartakovsky who, along with Cr... : Ride-My-Rocket
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        he did dexter's lab??!?!?! <3 : pyros
        • and many other bad ass cartoons. : sigpro
        • i didn't know this. that show rocked. : AMikaboshi
        • POWERPUFF GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.... : chorizoNskittlz
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        Hanna Barbara? ugh, those hacks set back animation by decades. the scripts whatever, but the animation ... : mikecyb
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          He-man, Thundercats, Silverhawks, The Smurfs Jonny F'in Quest, Space Ghost, Scooby Doo, Super Friends wer : grandmasterlee
          • sadly if you go back and watch any of those shows now you will be sad and wonder what the hell your young... : mikecyb
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            scooby doo was crap. it was the same damn plot every single episode : GloriousCow
            • ...And they'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling adults! /ducks : Toraz Chryx
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            no. they werent. They were fucking embarrassing. Mikecyb's right, Hanna Barbara did more damage than even... : kenmis
            • I'm not sure I'd use the Japanese as beacons of animation, especially considering the mass amount of anim... : Chod
          • i really don't think that list of shows helps your cause here. the animation in those was fucking awful.... : electroly
          • i saw some thundercats episodes on dvd a couple years ago, and i couldnt believe i liked that show when i... : -=kodiak=-
        • you just described 90% of popular anime : cpt_gloval
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          But consider what their work spawned: Venture Brothers, Harvey Birdman, Space Ghost: Coast To Coast, Seal... : Ride-My-Rocket
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            man now you are citing Adult Swim!? Look I love a lot of those shows too but Adult Swim has some of the ... : mikecyb
            • also I realize I am being unnecessarily serious about this but you cited Samurai Jack and the Clone Wars ... : mikecyb
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  lol what? – with tattoos and make-up that sounds like a racist take on a Black New Orleans Crack-Dealin : Hoax
  • What this crazy foo' talkin' Jibba Jabba 'bout now? : mem
• Saw a screener on Saturday. All I can say is "meh." Its a good movie to take your kids to and that's ab... : supertech68

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  The The Dark Knight? : Arctic Fox
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    Oh and that's an awesome poster by the way. : Arctic Fox
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      copies the joker style scribbling of the previous stuff though : dantastic
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        I know right?Who is that supposed to be then? The Jiddler? : get_navi
        • The Jizzler : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Yeah why did I type that? : avatar_58
• I want that to be real. : mittense
• wow, that's actually pretty dam impressive. : mattfl
• lol I thought it was real : boomstickah
• Very nice fan work. : DHAvatar
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  grr urge to click.. I really need to hit that movie up this weekend. : stonedonkey
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    dont click it till you see the movie, seriously : scottythejock
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      I don't feel like it's such a huge spoiler frankly. Sure it's how the movie ends, but it doesn't really t... : Geoffrois
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        It would have to me if I read it before I saw the movie. I prefer going in completely blank. : avatar_58
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          I guess it's just that I always see Batman as being an outlaw who's around when shady things happen, so h : Geoffrois
          • I always saw the joker as a man with funky hair and a maniacal laugh. However TDK is none of those things... : avatar_58
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    Those of us with Image Loader don't have a chance. :/ : hoov1185
    • You kind of take that stuff on your head when you install ImageLoader though. That, and the fact that you... : Arctic Fox
    • Oops. I didn't think of that, but to be fair I don't use that stuff. Sorry if I fucked that up. : avatar_58
• It borrows to much from the viral marketing the did for TDK, plus riddler is gay. Also did you make this?... : voodooraze
• Wow, that's pretty bitchin' : ShekkyBoy
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  Fan poster's don't mean anything though. : baronzemo78
  • they give us false hope, the best kind of hope : scottythejock
• Cool stuff : nomaad
• oooooh coool I like! : gakera
• That is pretty sweet. : grabbie
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  The problem is that The Dark Knight Returns comic is much, much further into the future than a year. : Lone Swordsman
  • I don't think the intention was for them to be related. : scottythejock
• just saw it last night at the IMAX. pretty awesome. is there any news of a sequel, and if so, who the vil... : mindmann
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  Wow. Very cool. But instead of riddler, maybe they should look into some other villain like say the mad h... : sjpeters79
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    i still hope it's Mr.Freeze. : AMikaboshi
    • me too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU7tzVu2h6k : Jenings
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    i would guess one of the female characters so bruce can have a "love intrerest" : oHnOES
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      I still got my money on the riddler and Talia A'gul : skitzo
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        i believe Talia A'gul will be involved somehow yeah. I REALLY hope they don't do the riddler though. I'd ... : Silent Wolf
        • personally i think the riddler is too much like the joker, but i dont really know the comics or mythos : oHnOES
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          I don't know if people would like Talia showing up all of a sudden. They didn't so much as hint that Raz... : SolveChrist
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            uhh in batman begins rah's mentioned he had a wife and daughter once, but they were taken from him. : Silent Wolf
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              oh ok then, guess i wasn't paying attention then. I do think it would be cool if they had some of his se... : SolveChrist
              • yeah they entirely removed immortality from Ra's in Begins because it didn't fit in with the more grounde : mikecyb
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    Problem with alot of the batman enemies is they are pretty cheesy, that's why most speculation has been o... : peat
    • yeah i suppose so.... perhaps they should also consider doing a crossover kind of deal where they may ge... : sjpeters79
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      They could make up a new villain. I wouldn't object to that. : avatar_58
      • I would, then it wouldn't be batman. ;D : DM7
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      I'm trying to picture a 'dark' Penguin, and my mind is rofling for even trying :( : xsoulbrothax
      • Burton's Penguin was pretty freaking dark. He bit someone's nose off for goodness sake. : deathofrats
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      I want Egghead! Resurrect Vincent Price! : Totenjaeger
      • The Minstrel! : invisible_kid
    • Wasn't there some Shack talk about making Clayface a master of disguise rather than a disgusting giant bl... : ShekkyBoy
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      Bane would be a good one... An out of work baseball player turns to a life of crime. : Silent Jay
      • I love the Knightfall storyline where Bane "breaks" batman, but I don't think they could do that without ... : jlavrenz
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    they'd need to keep it fairly close to reality. Someone like Clayface is too far removed from reality fo... : DonkeyPopsicle
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      clayface could totally be some plastic surgery obsessed maniac : JINKY
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        Well, then it isn't exactly Clayface then is it? : Totenjaeger
        • This argument applies to every villian in the nolanverse so far, and it has worked out pretty good. : quadeh
  • Penguin! Penguin! Penguin! : Finestaut
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    Nolan said he wants Jolee as Catwoman : stgdz
    • Who doesn't? : notd665
    • link me to where "Nolan" said that. I think that was just a made up rumor. : Silent Wolf
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      I think you read that backwards. Jolee said she wants to be Nolan's Catwoman, not the other way around. ... : Finestaut
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        I thought he signed a three-picture deal or was that only the actors? : Totenjaeger
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          Nolan signed on for two, but the rest of the major cast (Bale, Freeman, Caine, Oldman) signed on for thre... : mikecyb
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            When did he sign on for two? They weren't even sure they were going to make the second one based on the ... : dilutedq
            • Nolan has only signed on a per movie basis. : lodit
• I like the little things, like 'words by vicki vale' : skitzo
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  I saw TDK Tuesday night, and last night had a nightmare about The Joker (I get nightmares when I overheat... : Hiro
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    I think that was pretty apparent when They were in interrogation. Nothing that happened to him mattered. : avatar_58
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      Simple. Kill them. Any losses up to that must be written off. There is no reasoning with someone as ... : dedgecko
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        Then you stoop to their level. Should we kill anyone who breaks the law? What makes killing that sick fuc... : avatar_58
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          who said you had to kill them quickly? Make them suffer... : dedgecko
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            We're back to square one. Clearly the joker didn't care. : avatar_58
            • then kill them - or get them to kill themselves. Feed them shitty food, don't give them any access to ... : dedgecko
        • if it's stooping to his level, so be it. i wouldn't be trying to punish him, i'd be trying to stop him... : xsoulbrothax
      • This is one of several reasons why the Joker was the perfect nemesis for Batman in this movie. : Finestaut
    • Yeah that was the highlight of his performance for me too. : riptyde
• Not bad. : thejm4n
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  And hows the guy who Bruce saved gonna play in the next movie? : Ziz
  • .....? : oHnOES
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    The Taddler : get_navi
    • Yeah, I could see The Riddler torturing him to find out the answer to "Who is Batman?" and then killing h : Bamtan
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    That guy is a non-issue non-character. I don't know why people keep assuming he's going to have some sor... : EvilDolemite
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      Well somebody might remember the guy. and he claiming to know who Batman is. And start looking for em. : Ziz
      • OH, him. no way is he coming back. no god damn way : oHnOES
    • You have to remember that a lot of people on this website still don't know what the fuck happened when Th : SockMonkeh
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    Not? Why would the guy have anything against him? Bruce Wayne saved his life even though he was about r : walker270
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      Plus he's kind of uncharismatic and not that great of an actor. : EvilDolemite
      • That too. His only purpose in the movie was to show Bruce Wayne protects everyone, regardless of who the : walker270
      • Oh like they can't recast. : baron calamity
  • HE'S NOT GOING TO. : skinlab133
  • Working a street corner to buy Mr. Wayne a new Lamborghini. : DarkWolf5
• Hah you put TDK and for some reason I thought Lucas was making a sequel to THX-1138. My brain fails on ma... : Dynotaku
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  I don't want The Riddler in the next movie. However, looking at this fan poster has me imagining a serial... : das_runt
  • There's been rumors of The Riddler being the next villain for quite some time now. I agree that Nolan co... : Legolas5
• Riddler sucks. : NFXFSX
• oooo I got goosebumps from that :D : Thisispol
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  As a guy who thinks comic book movies are silly, but loves these batman movies because they are more real... : bozer
  • they could use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsasz , especially as they already introduced him in the firs... : Fyunch Click