Spore Stirs Atheist Ire for Religious Elements
by Aaron Linde, Aug 11, 2008 2:45pm PDTSpore lead designer Will Wright revealed that the religious elements in EA Maxis' upcoming life-sim Spore (PC, Mac) has unexpectedly earned more criticism from athiests than religious groups.
The game sports a focus on the evolution of creatures from the cellular level all the way to the point of interstellar travel. The game's civilization stage, in which players control groups of creatures in an RTS-like fashion, allows players to select from a militaristic, economic, or spiritual society.
"I didn't expect to hit hot buttons on the atheist side as much; I expected it on the religious side," Wright told Eurogamer. "But so far I've had no critical feedback at all from anybody who is religious feeling that we were misrepresenting religion or it was bad to represent religion in the game. It was really the atheists."
Wright, who described himself as an atheist, went on to note that objections from fellow developers helped to identify possible sensitivity issues early in development.
"We have a number of team members that are pretty religious. And so in design, on the team, in our small, little microcosm of players out there, we tried our best to make sure we weren't overtly offending any religious people, but yet we wanted to include the idea, the concept of religion in the game," Wright said.
He added, "We didn't want to go too far down that path: we leave the whole creation of the universe question open. Obviously as the player you're coming in and playing something like a god, directing the evolution of a species, but we never really state who you the player are."
Spore is set for a September 7 release on PC and Mac, with a Nintendo DS version hitting on the same day.
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1. Atheism is completely warranted where a deity is logically impossible (such as the christian version of god, being both perfectly benevolent and also wiping out humanity, etc). Agnosticism in the face of that is worse than agnosticism in the face of unicorns and the FSM.
2. Nobody explained what Will's atheist contingent were complaining about. I personally don't care to play a "spiritual" race, but I don't care if someone else does. It's a game, a fantasy, make believe... that's the place for "spirits". Obviously they didn't go too far with it or else you'd see wise guys creating islamic fundie space aliens screaming ALLLAAHHHHH before they blow up a planet.
3. Of course we atheists have a superiority complex, we're demonstrably superior. Demonstrably. If you doubt that, go watch Jesus Camp.
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Religious people are so sure god exists.
With obviously no concrete proof, this appears so some to be an ignorant assumption.
Which is usually the backbone argument of an Atheist.
So for someone who claims they are Atheist, (and not Agnostic).
aka they are so sure a higher deity or deities don't exist,
Is that not also just as ignorant?
(Or are people claiming they are Atheist, and don't understand the meaning of Atheist?)
If you do believe you are completely Atheist, I'm curious on what has sided you to think for sure one doesn't exists as opposed to not knowing for sure?
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Please don't group up the majority with the fanatical minority.
PS. Spore is going to rock.
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If I was to open my mouth about religion in pop-culture, and specially USA pop-culture, I have to say that I'm sick and tired of the constant need to appeal to woo-woo, mysticism and "faith" in every goddamn movie and TV-show, The tagline for the recent X-Files movie says it all: "To find the truth, You Must Believe" Quite possibly the worst advice anyone could give. Ever.
To find the truth, you must DISbelieve, you must QUESTION things, thats the whole point. DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE. Question them. Be skeptical. Always.
But I think Spore will be great, I'm looking forward to get my cold, heretical hands on it.
Can we all agree on saying, "Down with overly-sensitive fanatics on both sides?"
It should be everyone's collective responsibility to catalog fanatics and keep them in check. No, speaking out against video games isn't a constructive use of your time. Condemning books, movies, and games couldn't be more of a waste of life. Inundate the people around you with those messages.
So before you start saying "fuck you atheists" or complaining about how stupid atheists are, just think about the "God Hates Fags" religious group. Smart people don't damn all religious people just because of what a few stupid outspoken fanatics do, and neither should you.
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People will complain about anything they want nowadays just because they can, thanks to 21st century technology.
I'm gonna e-mail Maxis a complaint about how little agnosticism is in Spore - I mean, can't my creatures just say "MAYBE" to ME?
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Riddle me this Christians; will my virtual beings be sent to your Hell for idolatry toward me? (in your mind)
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Which atheists are these again? I dunno, seems like BS fluff.
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"..., and the rest of the players seemed very tolerant, including all of the religious players. And most of the atheists were very tolerant as well." - Wright
Its a really good interview that stands on its own and doesn't need any conflict or drama. I think over his now 20 year tenure in our industry we can give him the benefit of the doubt that Spore will be a great game and not a tool to indoctrinate religious beliefs.
Why must people be so anal to criticize games/movies/entertainment for what they may or may not have in them?
I don't criticize games, suchas "The Darkness" for basically being based on slight possession and meddling in Hell.
As long as it's not over the top, demeaning to the point of TRYING to offend, It's entertainment in the form the creator wanted to bring to you; As long as it's not over the top, demeaning to the point of TRYING to offend, if you can't accept it, get over it.
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If having a "spiritual" civilization is an option, that also means that *crushing* a spiritual civilization is an option? What's the problem with that?
This is both new and interesting!
People find a reason to whine about everything.
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Saying they don't exist is an act of ignorance. Every single person I've met with or talked to knows at least one.
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