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• The problem with 12v12 matches is that substitutions are quite a fiddle. : Jonathan
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  I'm waiting to hear back from a few more players, but I want to shoot for Wednesday to get it done, and p... : SolveChrist
  • The old-school way Solve, sucks :( : dkrulz
  • Oh right a message. I'll send that now. : Audhuml4
  • i won't be able to make it : fletch_
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    I can tell you from experience that the only way you're going to make this happen is set a date and time ... : Xevo
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      So far I have just about 8 confirmed for almost any day/time. I expect we should meet the 10 minimum, an... : SolveChrist
      • Yeah it sucks playing 10v10 though, but do what you gotta do, man. : Xevo
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  Hey, I'd just like to congratulate your team on the win last night. You guys really put together an impe... : alarm cock
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    Yeah no kidding. We scrimmed one before and did OK. I figured we could just grab-ass our way to victory... : gnomish
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      Yeah 2fort at the end really took the wind out of our sails. We had some pretty epic games vs Jackhammer... : bcyde
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        haha that spy cap on goldrush was hilarious. i forget who it was.. techpriest? : Mmmmmoo
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          Techpriest had 2 ninja caps on granary, goldrush was doctor.sbaitso (fayk is his shack name, I believe) : bcyde
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            I was glad I was able to redeem myself after a poor showing vs. Harvester or whoever was playing engineer... : Fayk
            • oh hot damn dr.sbaitso and techpriest on one team. i'd be flicking 180s every 30 seconds and probably go ... : project13
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              I was the engy on Goldrush, Harvester was on Granary, and we both were on 2Fort... : zipper76
              • Good job then! I cursed your name in-game a couple times due to crit wrenches (EVERY TIME) but most of th... : Fayk
          • Awesone stuff there. The explosion on voice chat afterwards was gold. : Alco23
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      yeah, I'm considering dropping ctf/linear cp maps to 20 minutes & 3 points : hirez
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        ^^^ thoughts? maybe just drop CTF time? or both? : hirez
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          I enjoyed the 2fort play last night. The thing that I find most difficult is that the maps we have in the... : taronish
          • if you need, I can make shackwest available to you almost any time for practice : hirez
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          I dunno, I'd start with smaller changes, like 4 points / 25 minutes. Next week matches will probably get... : ]pm[chem
          • true true. and next week it will be 2 x 30min/5 point maps & dustbowl. it should be about 90 minutes of p... : hirez
        • If anything drop player # on CTF and leave it at 30 minutes. : dkrulz
        • I could see making the CTF rounds shorter/smaller being helpful, the teams are all going to have trouble ... : Xevo
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          I would like it to be dropped to best of 3 and 15 minutes, going into sudden death after 15 mins. Most g... : itsjames
          • if it's a draw, it's scored as a draw. you don't keep going past the 30 mins. : ]pm[chem
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            If the captains know rcon and are in control of their teams, there should rarely be more than 5-10 mins b... : Xevo
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              some of us play on computers are basically toasters with graphics cards :( Also, after an hour of play... : itsjames
              • I understand, absolutely... however there is a lot of wasted time that cannot be accounted for by bathroo... : Xevo
  • thanks, we have total respect for the Ducks! I am still jealous of that ridiculous theme .wav with "duck... : ]pm[chem
• Were the west servers logging stats? I know an east coast team posted theirs last night. Recorded kil... : judoka2
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  That was a whole bunch of fun last night, and I'd like to thank Hirez, DrFlammable and the server admins ... : geedeck
  • In addition to having to play seriously it was great to be in a game where everyone else was playing seri... : Fayk
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  i feel bad for the snipers if there was so much lag :< : Foxhawk
  • I'm pretty sure our sniper had the best score on our team before the lag started :( : NastyJack
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    Not sure if you guys are talking about Dallas? I was online for most of the night and didn't get any com... : RyDogg1
    • No it was Chicago, skull the trolls server. It just wasn't up to handling so many players last night. Cra... : NastyJack
    • Yeah, there were some people complaining about lag during the West match. I got a few lag spikes here an... : bcyde
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      It's something connected to SourceTV I think. Chicago for East match had horrible lag. Dallas for West ... : dkrulz
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        I dont think it was SourceTV related for the east match. there was only 1 sourceTV client connected, my p... : hirez
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          Chicago has been up and running fine with 24 people for a while though, why suddenly on tourney day did i... : dkrulz
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            its on gameservers.com so maybe thats it. NKOTB had issues last tournament, and it was a gameservers.com ... : hirez
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              Possibly, but what about old Dallas? That isn't a gamservers.com server is it? : dkrulz
              • no but Dallas West didnt use a proxy b/c we were on shackwest (which I used to proxy the east matches). : hirez
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                No it's actually in the datacenter the shack is actually hosted on but not on the same network. If there... : RyDogg1
                • If Dallas was only used for the 7pm EST matches and not the 10pm EST matches, then it was fine. : Xevo
            • oh man I didn't realize Skull was hosting it there, that kind of sucks... : Xevo
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              traceroutes. You guys need traceroutes. Then if Skull has shell access to his box traceroutes back to c... : RyDogg1
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                It wasn't actually ping problems, but server churn mainly from SourceTV running off the box and with team... : Xevo
                • What's the recommended server hosting service? : Zakko
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                  team voice chat is not relayed to the STV servers, if it was, that was certainly the problem, because my ... : hirez
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                    I do not have first-hand experience with that happening last night, but one of the servers apparently had... : Xevo
                    • I should have noted that I am assuming this based on a post saying exactly that in the tournament thread ... : Xevo
            • yeah I think it has to be something with the way were setting it up because we have 24 people on chicago ... : Skull the Troll
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  A couple of highlights from last night in FFS vs Jackhammer's team: doctor.sbaitso's cap of the last p... : bcyde
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    plus not having the other team have its full roster sucked for a few of us who had to sit out. I was doin... : sesmaster
    • We'll work out a plan to sub people in/out between maps. I'd like to see everyone get a chance to play. ... : omnova
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      Oh, shit you were P4L, I didn't make the connection last night, hah. I was wondering who that was. : bcyde
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        yeah I changed it to P4L after I got some grief in Pubs. Apparently it doesnt take too long for people to... : sesmaster
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          see, its not just shackers that make this jump. : hirez
          • I am just shocked that I never experienced this joke until the Shack. : sesmaster
        • Wait, you mean people would read Peters as Dicks and not your last name? I am shocked. SHOCKED! OK, no... : Xevo
        • lol : Mmmmmoo
  • Yeah I agree with bcyde's general sentiments here. I think we have a flexible team with a bunch of co... : Alco23
• We had 13 show up and rotated people between maps. Everyone got to play at least two maps. It wasn't too ... : terath
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  Is there any URL for the brackets and teams that are playing on this "season"? : Nitrium
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    http://ems.esportsea.com/?a=x.schedule&stageid=2021 : terath
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      please note the changes in the maps for next week! we're only going to play CTF 2 more times (1/5th of to... : hirez
      • You brought back badlands! <3 <3 <3 : JarEme
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    also, team rosters (draft results): west - http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p8Z6HyJbGXZbrVzZ-00mmA... : ]pm[chem
    • Thanks a lot, guys. : Nitrium
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  One downside to this format is that you can only watch the matches from the other conference. I was able ... : Sze Ior
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    I'll have demos available on my shackspace...soon. : hirez
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      Still not the same as watching with others and commenting. Please make the playoffs one match at a time i... : Sze Ior
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        IAWTP 100% : Xevo
        • I'll do my best to stagger them as much as possible : hirez
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  i have a confession to make and it is that i have more hours logged as sniper / soldier on 2fort than any... : dopeman
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    yeah, the majority of my hours are probably on 32-player dustbowl servers. I like 32-player 2fort too :X : ]pm[chem
    • as someone who mostly plays pyro, I prefer large servers, too. Its easier to surprise people when there's... : MisterPhoton
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    Why be ashamed of it? It's actually a good map once you get used to its quirks, it just necessitates tha... : Xevo
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      yeah I kinda agree with ya...although on a pub pick up game basis on shack servers its not necessarily so... : kainen1
      • Yes I have run into this problem before (pissing people off by trying to get teamwork going). However, t... : Xevo
• Hirez and his medic(s) killed me probably 30 times defending the water on 2Fort. : lowpoly
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  I KNOW YOU HATE ME, CHEM. JUST SAY IT. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    shit chem. he's onto our plan to lag him out of playing. : hirez
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      I KNEW IT. : Rice-Rocketeer
      • and I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids! : ]pm[chem
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  also, i had no idea that was theif playing! Theif you bastard! Use your normal name! : dopeman
  • yeah theif ! you Theif! : hirez
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    he switched to rs|cyberkineticsomethingorother a couple weeks ago. : ]pm[chem
    • It clearly shows that someone stole Thief from him, and he's having to fight the future to get his name b... : Xevo
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  JD vs Feek was a great time, man, it's why these tournaments are so fun. Tense as all get out, but even ... : kainen1
  • The most nerve racking part was the run out. Had to dart past and engineer, a sniper and some other class... : PRoX.00
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  I think 2fort is great for competition. Too bad the shack doesn't like CTF. I have been playing on anothe... : razlebol
  • agreed... also agreed with Xevo's 2fort comments. : ]pm[chem
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    I don't really have a problem with 2fort in general, I think by the time you reach the 3rd round of games... : bcyde
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      Definitely, this is where playing with a smaller team would be helpful, because only the most hardcore pl... : Xevo
      • Also, playing out full scrims with the same time and win limits and maps as the next round of the tournam... : Xevo
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      They shouldn't. The problem I think is long breaks between maps, if all goes quickly you are only playin... : dkrulz
      • ^^ Yeah, I think it's the unfamiliarity with rules and lack of organization between rounds that keeps thi... : bcyde
    • play the ctf maps first, problem solved. : Jackass1233
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  also, is it possible to pause or screenshot during TF2 demo [replay] playback? : ]pm[chem
  • yes shift+f2 to bring the demoui and press the pause button. : razlebol
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  Also, Captain Melee. Could we disable crits for this? It's kind of pointless with crits on as it's all... : razlebol
  • Felraiser went down like a sack of potatoes! : theWhite
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    As long as both captains go the same class they should have the same chance of getting a crit. Seems fair... : NastyJack
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      I think the problem is that theoretically both swing and hit eachother on the first swing of the round an... : Fayk
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        yeah, but the odds are the same for either player... it's not like the choice of who defends first is tha... : Grumbeld
        • well if we just want it to be luck we can leave it to a coin flip right? I agree it's no big deal, certai... : Fayk
      • the point is that it's the same chance as a coin toss though. : SolveChrist
    • Boring fight though. I don't think it should rely on luck. It's not very important but it's also very eas... : razlebol
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  ALL CAPTAINS PSA Please be familiar with all of the rules so that the matches go as smoothly as possib... : dkrulz
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    Yes please, not naming names, but this can really hurt a match. : Xevo
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      uhhhh i'll name names dr.flammable, please read the rules and have some clue what you're doing. : lakren
      • hahaha what : DrFlammable
  • Yeah. Specially the rule about players dropping. : razlebol
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    NOT LIVE EVEN THOUGH THE TIMER IS TICKING : electroly
    • FUCK IT! LET'S DO IT LIVE! : Maddog_Delphi97
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    this probably should have been done before the matches started to avoid problems. Not naming names you kn... : Jackass1233
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      seems like common sense to read the rules before you start though : hardfl1p
      • uh yeah, since i've spammed the post a bunch, and its posted to the group... : hirez
      • common sense is a misnomer. : Arctic Fox
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      Here's the thing, captains have a detailed announcement in the Steam group as well as an explicit Shackme... : Xevo
      • faulyt : Xevo
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        Right xevo, *I* should have read that part more carefully. I take full responsibility for thinking 3 whil... : terath
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          Well it certainly sounds like "how could we have been ready" based on some of the posts here, and I just ... : Xevo
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            There's probably a lot less of that sentiment than it seems. I think hirez is doing a fantastic job. Over... : terath
            • I know our match getting delayed wasn't a big deal. Shit happens. Clearly we thought the server would hol... : NastyJack
            • <high 5> - I'm pretty stoked at how well things went, the chicago west coast matches not included. : hirez
    • Tourney 3 will have a 100 question entrance exam for all potential captains. : lowpoly
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  HIJACK! What's the common wisdom for demo -> video recording in TF2? I've been wondering for a while. Fra... : Fayk
  • nope, you don't need fraps, tf2 can encode video in-game. the command is "startmovie" i think : electroly
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    http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Demo_Video_Creation : Arctic Fox
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      Be aware that this method blows goats and FRAPS is about a million times better. But then FRAPS is $37. : Arctic Fox
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        what? you've got it backwards. fraps cannot slow down TF2 to match the encoding speed so that you're gu... : electroly
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          oh awesome, I didn't realize their thing that renders out individual frames also rendered a .wav - cool! ... : Fayk
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            with the right codec it will encode straight from demo to divx in one step. it's awesome. : electroly
            • i agree. its very very slick. : hirez
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              How do you do that? According to the wiki, you still need to render in to image and wav in the game and t... : razlebol
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                nah, you can choose divx/xvid as the protocol just do startmovie <filename> avi follow the steps here... : hirez
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                  Oh. That's pretty fucking cool. Does it support the x264 codec? : razlebol
                  • hmmm. I havent tried that yet. good question! : hirez
                  • nope, not yet I believe. : Arctic Fox
            • That, or rendering straight to a non-lossy format (for editing) would be awesome - sadly the wiki mention... : Fayk
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          Fraps actually slows down the FPS to whatever you set it at. : razlebol
          • it slows down the FPS, but it does not slow down the actual game. there's a huge difference. : electroly
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          I've never had a problem with this in FRAPS. And the one-button-recording makes it so much more attractiv... : Arctic Fox
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            i'm sure you saw the subthread above, but images is just one of the options. you can record straight to ... : electroly
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              ...which failed every time I tried it. I think it's still in beta. : Arctic Fox
              • When you tried was it in windowed mode? : Alco23
      • Worth every penny. : razlebol
• In answer to your first question, the Fu fighters only managed to scrape together 10 players (though Ant ... : Arctic Fox
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  I think you should wait between maps to rotate players in, unless there is a way to pause the server to d... : pyide
  • thats basically it - swap between maps, or play down until you get the right people in the game. : hirez
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  anyone watching west matches last night = specifically chicago - was voicecom on via souceTV? ie could yo... : hirez
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    lemme find the post from last night, hirez : Xevo
    • ahh wait, looks like I read too much into Demius's post while searching for answers: http://www.shacknew... : Xevo
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  Stats - Probably been asked in previous threads, but will there be any for this tournament? I've no idea ... : hardfl1p
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    yeah, we have log files, k1bond and mikecyb are working on something. : hirez
    • Awesome, ta : hardfl1p
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      I wish gameservers.com wasn't cockblocking Skull from getting them working on Chicago, he says he's done ... : Xevo
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        damn, that sucks. have him check if there is a 'logshack' folder. : hirez
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          I had it that way in the config, but it kept putting them in 'logs' on my server. maybe his actually put ... : hirez
          • he said his logs folder was empty, and he's tried everything I believe. : Xevo
      • It's not gameservers because the kbd server is hosted by them and it does logs. : K1Bond007
    • it's almost done in fact! : mikecyb

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  this is awesome, +inf this somebody : rgoer
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    OK but what is this? Error: Operation timed out (1212442390210). : dognose
    • OK never mind it returned images and maps : dognose
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  What is it? is it worksafe? : DM7
  • I wish to know this as well. : CrustaR
  • It is unless yuo search for pr0n, it is a command line search engine : dognose
  • Use google in a *nix shell-like fashion. : DrWaffles
• Cool. : Audhuml4
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  wow awesome. type 'addengine' to integrate it into the firefox search bar. : re4ctor
  • first thing i did! : lja83
• nice but pretty useless. : Horn
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  nice, it autocompletes shack to shacknews with a tab press : nodebug
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    wow, it does.. : doomed
    • now try: in shacknews.com "I love the cock" : GloriousCow
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  I need like a standalone app for this... time to write a vb minibrowser again... : lordlobo
  • The functionality is pretty much built into Firefox. : Kentor
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  why would you use this? are people that much of fucking nerd losers that they abhor all GUIs? : deject
  • its nice that you can see a bunch of searches all one one page and scroll back to something you found ear... : GloriousCow
• black text on a white background?! *sigh*, noobs. It is pretty cool, though. ;) : mn3m0n1c
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  i get a strong urge to play some bbs doors after using that. lord? : acidravelamp
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    *bones Violet* : jayares
    • dont forget the condom. : j0nchan
    • Not tonight; my throat is too dry. : Omaha
  • god LoRD was so amazing, I started my own BBS so I could play it non-stop. : Xevo
  • Swords of Chaos was better... : Landrosradick
• i love it. i wonder if they allow telnet to it : CoRDS
• Awesome. :D : DOOManiac
• awwwwwww: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/387667598_ea86c93d81.jpg : Arctic Fox
• pretty cool : ColoradoCNC

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  knife : lja83
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife : lja83
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      you're mistaken, that's the tool that's useful for slicing your finger off as you try to open one of thos... : mindmann
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        if you can't properly handle a knife you may not call yourself a man : lja83
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          I don't usually call myself a man anyways. that would be weird. just going around saying "i'm a man!" : mindmann
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            just so long as you know that you're not a man if you can't handle a knife : lja83
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              I can handle the knife just fine. I've got the scars and gashes to prove it. : mindmann
              • if you've got scars and gashes, you were not handling the knife "just fine" at least not if it's your ... : lja83
          • King Leonidas does it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpGVsiS7bBw : Jumperus
      • correct. : AMikaboshi
      • Yep, I have a non-locking knife on my leatherman that I nearly took off my right index finger with trying... : dravalen
• http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006ACWEQ/ref=pd_cp_hi_2?pf_rd_p=277661601&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=20... : ryuuseki
• clear plastic case opener? : jonin
• "your teeth" : fishbone
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  blister pack? : mrvandelay
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blister_pack : mrvandelay
    • i'd think something like this. http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B000B6MLUA/ref=cm_... : AMikaboshi
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    nope. let me see if i can find something with it. : AMikaboshi
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      oops i misread your post... thought you wanted to know what the packs were called.... ill keep lookin : mrvandelay
      • FOUND IT? http://housewares.about.com/b/2006/04/16/openx-an-opener-for-plastic-clamshell-packaging-more.h... : mrvandelay
      • its something a cd player would come in. plastic case with sealed edges. : AMikaboshi
  • accually you were right. it is a clamshell. : AMikaboshi
• violence : bamb
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissors : Arctic Fox
• box cutter : Fyunch Click
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  A sharp knife opens blister packs. I've used a can-opener in the past as well, with great success. : carrioN luggagE
  • yeh i was shocked SHOCKED at how well a can opener works on those evil things : CoRDS
• This thing rocks: http://www.enjoyzibra.com/openit/ : sandcrab
• i think this is it. http://www.amazon.com/As-Seen-On-TV-Pyranna/dp/B000NAJCG0/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=offi... : AMikaboshi
• Lightsaber. : NFXFSX
• a friend. : j0nchan
• Nuclear bomb (plus refrigerator so it doesn't open you too). : Nali4Freedom
• Sharp scissors? : perstephanie
• http://www.leisurepro.com/Image/Product/Full/SOGSPFBK.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411RXVCX... : Jumperus
• http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/09/30/ http://www.penny-arcade.com/2002/09/30/those-goddamn-conta... : action wombmate
• http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/CategoryOverview.aspx?cPath=1570.1792 : hirez
• I used to be into RC car's and i happened to own a pair of sissors designed to cut Lexan plastic car bodi... : trevis

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  WoW. Because even at 20 years, I'd still have a ton of quests to do. : mossman85
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    he didn't say you'd have internet access : DrFlammable
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      Diablo 2 of course. : mossman85
      • So what do you do for the next 19 years and 6 months after the clickers on the mice break? : Prozium
    • No internet access. : Milleh
  • I'd go with this. You could just set up one of the computers as a bootleg server, you wouldn't need the I... : Psigun
• Snood : drucifer
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  19 friends? Fuck, I have like 3 good friends, they rest are just people I kinda know and would chat with ... : Big Luke
  • PRETEND : Milleh
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  Counter-Strike : SockMonkeh
  • version 5.2 and I would agree with you. : sigpro
• civ iv marathon game. 20 years might be just enough time to finish : kill9
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  19 sexy friends? : spiderfill
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    can we pick condoms instead of consoles? ;) : AMikaboshi
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      Sure, but you have to use the same condom for 20 years. : Milleh
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        Just pull out its safer : hrdwregk
        • I prefer the ol' punch her in the stomach technique. : hoov1185
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  If Master of Orion 2 supported 20 players I might be inclined to pick that. : Milleh
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    Or perhaps Civ 4. : Milleh
    • Civ would be really tempting. : perstephanie
    • This and you make an exact replica of the island in the game and have in-game territory reflect who gets ... : Bob_Loblaw
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  quake 1 deathmatch : med1c
  • Quake 1 Future vs Fantasy! : Milleh
• Tribes 2 with the renegades mod. : jahulio2
• Quake 3 or Starcraft for sure : dearjamie
• It would be a tough choice between Tribes and Rogue Spear but I'd probably go with Tribes. : Haku-Jin
• If I could get a thousand or so on the island I'd choose Ultima Online. Otherwise, Quake Rocket/Clan Aren... : ayesel
• 20 years is a long time, also this scenario is the suck. : mindshot
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  GTA4 : red2lucas
  • I like your thinkin'. : thejm4n
• chess : industro
• supreme commander : hobosapien
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  The twist is that a cage of bird eating spiders opens up over the face of the first person to lose each a... : Milleh
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    why not bees? : hobosapien
    • beads? : slickdoody
  • Then the only winning move is not to play? : jahulio2
• secret of mana : sketchuout
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  I'd probably go with Scene It. : Ellissd
  • And I will bring the VHS edition of Clue, because that will never get boring. : Rich McNinch
• tic-tac-toe : slickdoody
• Worms World Party : sm00v3d
• probably civ 4 or something. : aeg1x
• so gay. any desert island scenario needs chicks. : [fry]
• TF2 with Source SDK or Raven Shield. : K1Bond007
• BF1942 : Jayx77
• wow : TPSReport
• Something that is mod-friendly and currentish: ET:Quake Wars. : ifallible
• probably a RTS game. Perhaps age of empires 2 : marmite

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  There actually isn't any virus or mutation, it just takes place in sudan : gmd
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    and here I was thinking it was darfur : conandan
    • that would be racist : gmd
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    i assume it isnt just run-of-the-mill sudanese though? : Klebold
    • no they are normal, you wear a back pack filled with red cross food rations and also hold up a flamming ... : gmd
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    haha yeah why do people assume they're zombies we're talking about africa here folks they don't need to b... : [fry]
    • afterall, knowledge is power. : Klebold
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  your irl shacker friend is an idiot : peat
  • PERSONAL ATTACK! : conandan
  • name this irl shacker so we can LOL : Iwannaacura
  • Would that be Harris? : pigvomit
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  I dunno, to a non-gamer it looks like running around shooting poor (realistic looking) African villagers.... : aethyr
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    you are comparing a game hasn't even been released to one that is more then years old? : peat
    • 10 years* : peat
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    I'm just saying, there's a reason RE5 is eliciting these responses that other ones haven't. : aethyr
    • Because people are stupid? : Arcanum
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      Because the other entries in the series didn't take place in Africa? : ieGod
      • Africa = Racist now. Any piece of fiction that take place in Africa is racist. You must have missed the m... : uglysad
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    Wow, THAT is wrong.. Ok, judging from this single screenshot on timeout.com ... this looks bad indeed.... : doomed
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      What and killing Spanish people is good? Would it be different if he were in Brazil? Srsly I think its... : two50six
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        Maybe they WOULD say a word.. These screenshots that aethyr has posted look incredibly real.. and kill : doomed
        • Dude dis shizzat be nuts. Whats yous thinks dis shit aint real? Its as real as chedda holmes. Dis shit be... : two50six
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    This is a retarded post : two50six
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      Thanks for the insightful contribution to the conversation! : ColoradoCNC
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        It's about all that was deserved. : Ebu
        • Pretty much and considering I already contributed to this conversation numerous times. But thanks anyway ... : two50six
• Ask him what he plans to do when he plays the game.... No one is making you shoot them, he's the racist h... : devi| dog
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  Let's just forget that every other Resident evil series has included mostly white zombies. OMG That's ... : changejar419
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    look at my picture above, they don't even look like zombies, they basically look like poor villagers. He... : aethyr
    • They look like zombies to me. I assume in motion they are far more zombie-like, too. : dirge23
    • So did the ones in RE4, and I didn't hear anyone complaining about that being racist. No complaints, des... : Arcanum
    • Yeah but watch this video http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52937 THEIR FACES OPEN UP WTF. FACES. ... : geedeck
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      Well ya know, if a horde of people were walking towards me like zombies, I'd plug them full of holes anyw : changejar419
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        I agree, but if someone hasn't played Resident Evil (which is like 99% of the world population), then see... : aethyr
        • I'd say if they aren't competent to research something they feel so strongly about, their opinion is void... : changejar419
• I didn't think it was racist until I read this thread. Now I'm not sure. : dirge23
• I'm pretty sure I think it's racist now that I've read this thread. : packav
• The devs specifically said they wanted it set in Africa to coincide with the origins of the Plaga because... : jingletard
• Racist? Jesus mother mary what kind of a world do we live in where people try to find reasons anywhere an... : Milleh
• It's amazing how racially aware (or should I say paranoid?) that some parts of the world can still be the... : aaarrrgh
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  They've added a bunch of (really out of place looking) white people in the crowds. Compare the original... : deathofrats
  • OMG SUPER RACIST since the devs are japanese! : Fayk
• I think that's called 'projection' in psychological discussion. : eskimo spy
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  My big complaint about Resident Evil 5 is that I think a member of the Raccoon City Special Tactics And R... : uglysad
  • Is that the official story? Heh. Maybe he was called in as an expert... or maybe he's gone rogue. : ieGod
  • Pretty sure he's no longer affiliated with them, and he's here in Sudan looking for the origin of Plaga o... : Modica Sol Solis
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    holy crap, people worry about the RE storyline? : cdbeckman
    • Psss.. It was a joke : uglysad
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  Bad guys should only ever be white, robots or mutants. : stump
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    Or hispanic. : hirosushima
    • I think that counts as white. : ieGod
• So it would be ok if it was white people instead of black people? : razlebol
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  Did he see the new trailer featuring a black companion shooting the black zombies? : yellowtexan
  • This is retarded enough as it is, let's not bring black on black crime into it. : changejar419
• It can easily be read in several different ways, one of which is yes, that Resident Evil 5 is appallingly... : A Sponge
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  Ok, so let's make this clear. I'm the shacker who Klebold refers to above. Been at work all day, and thou... : Wiimope
  • I agree actually, had the same thought especially after that first camera-pan in the trailer. It's not... : TPSReport
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    That's honestly the big issue. There's a way to make a trailer about killing zombies in Africa that won't... : deveus1
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      That could be a line in the game when you're halfway through it, for all we know. As I said, people are ... : jingletard
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        People are talking about the trailer. The original dude referred to in the OP was talking about the trai... : deveus1
        • Yes, but even in the trailer within the first 30 seconds you see them dragging one of their own villagers... : jingletard
  • Ugh : Milleh
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    It's about an outbreak of parasites that infect people and turn them in to zombies. You really don't hav... : jingletard
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      the game most likely isn't racist, the point is the trailer mentions zombies later than it should have in... : Klebold
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        A RESIDENT EVIL game should of mentioned zombies earlier? : Snuffles-
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          you can't assume anything when you advertise to a general population. i assume this is going on tv. : Klebold
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            I would guess that you assume incorrectly. This isn't a TV commercial, it's a trailer for the game that'l... : Vincent Grayson
            • I really hope you're right and they are more sensitive in actual ads. I really like Resi 4, and I'm stil... : Wiimope
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        Within the first few seconds you see the villagers taking one of their own in to a shed, and stuffing a p... : jingletard
        • But thats ok! Totally OK!! But then some white dude comes in and shoots them, THAT IS RACIST : two50six
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      Can we step outside of ourselves as "gamers" for a moment? There is SO MUCH I want to say about this issu... : das_runt
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        Not realistically, because this is a gaming website, and we're talking about a trailer for a video game. ... : jingletard
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          I agree re: Capcom. It's silly to think they intentionally set out to be racist. However, just because... : das_runt
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            My whole point is - if it makes you uncomfortable, don't play it. If it bothers you - be bothered by it. : jingletard
            • what's so hard about this issue is that i agree with half of what you say and disagree on the rest. if... : das_runt
        • Africa and the US are not interchangeable. Where something is set means different things because people h... : deveus1
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        • Exactly, it's worth exploration. : das_runt
  • dude...come on : klearlyunseen
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    I am a black person and I disagree with you. You have no argument. How does that make you feel? Calm down : mr.sleepy
    • With all due respect, mr sleepy, I'm entitled to my opinion. I would feel the same way if the game refer... : Wiimope
    • Because if one black person has no issue with it then obviously there is no reason to feel even slightly ... : ColoradoCNC
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    actually no. i see people. no color. : blindi0815
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      color-blindness can be just as bad if it causes you to neglect one's cultural identity. : das_runt
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        i dont neglect cultural identity, which has obviously nothing to do with the color of the skin : blindi0815
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          of course it does. : das_runt
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            cultural identity is determined by where and how you grew up, what you where taught, what you experienced... : blindi0815
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              to say the other factors are "more important" is senseless. race is a factor and a very large part of rac... : das_runt
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                i believe that race is irrelevant, as is skin color, when talking about cultural identity. i suggest we a... : blindi0815
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                  i may add, that race/ skin color may be an indication for a certain cultural identity, but it may prove w... : blindi0815
                  • off topic: he looks like a fun guy to be around. does he always smile that much? : Klebold
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                    i don't understand why you think race/skin color would ever be "proven wrong" as factor of one's identity : das_runt
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                      i meant something else. you said that race/ skin are part of one's cultural identity. this would mean tha... : blindi0815
                      • no... to assume one's cultural identity would be ignorant and potentially racist! :) by your own words, t... : das_runt
                • I wish that were true in America, but being African American and dark skinned race is not irrelevant at a... : justsayno
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                  we can agree to disagree, but i don't see how you can disagree with the definition of cultural identity. : das_runt
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                    i can disagree because mine is different. as i've said, in my point of view, when i look at people, i don... : blindi0815
                    • this is where i think you are confusing the issue. there is nothing inherently wrong with seeing color/ra... : das_runt
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                  While an optimistic outlook, it completely discounts reality : ColoradoCNC
                  • i know, but why should i lower my standards? :) : blindi0815
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            really? How so? What about the unsighted? : Fayk
            • lol, an individual's physical disability does not change the definition of a term! besides, race also ... : das_runt
    • Wow, so you're the guy Stephen Colbert makes fun of. : woddemandred
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    Not even a little. The story looks like it's clearly set in a tribal war zone. You're looking for it, a... : tree8
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      Exactly my fucking point. I think a good amount of people need to go back to their dictionary's and read ... : two50six
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        Look, this is officially my final post in this thread, so here we go; It's not actually about the shooti... : Wiimope
        • I think its good that you stop posting as to avoid a possible non-racist lynching. Oh wait. My point i... : two50six
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17098786#itemanchor_17098786 Here is some suggested reading: http... : two50six
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    ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME OMFG}]* : virus
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      ITS A FUCKING SHACKTAG OMFG : virus
      • Why did the white text come out ok, racist? : .sticks.
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  But...Africa *is* a really hostile place. I mean, I'm sure it's filled with a variety of incredibly in... : Vincent Grayson
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    Countries may be in economic problems, there may be great violence, civil war and poverty, I do not deny ... : Wiimope
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      If they are zombies then yes. : baronzemo78
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        They make those statements in the trailer before they establish that they are zombies. : deveus1
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          Resident Evil has already established itself as a zombie game. I think it's reasonable that it should be ... : ieGod
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            That should have read "zombie themed game series". : ieGod
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              Do RE zombies tend to stand on platforms making speeches about their country at zombie rallies and using ... : deveus1
              • In re4, yes. : klearlyunseen
              • More or less. The infected have been known to engage in long winded philosophical dialog. : ieGod
              • They did in RE4, but they were just poor, disease ridden Spanish people so its not racist. : two50six
    • If your mind is being taken over by a parasite which will eventually cause your head to explode and sprou... : A Sponge
    • No, but as others have said, the Africans (who I assume won't be from a specific country, but who knows) : Vincent Grayson
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      Jesus Christ seriously stop I am going to shoot myself in the face. I am not going to join in your cru... : two50six
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        I would be surprised if the game took place in China or Brazil and they were shooting Africans... : Wiimope
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          But Crysis was filled with militant Koreans and one WHITE guy saves the day RACISTS!!!! : two50six
          • Hell whats worse is that all the trailers just showed the dude MURDERING KOREANS! Nothing else. They were... : two50six
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        Africa was colonized by Europeans and a huge reason that it is suffering economically etc is because of s... : justsayno
        • did you read my post? : two50six
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    and lions : gmd
    • oh my. : bogombo
    • 'home to the most fucked up lions' : Snuffles-
    • oh shit, imagine when we have to fight a zombie lion, it'll be more pants shitting enducing than the dogs... : hardfl1p
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  Makes me want to buy the game even more because I hate political correctness shit. : baronzemo78
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    and play it in your folding fortress? : Wiimope
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      I don't get it. : baronzemo78
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        Baron Zemo and his evil doers, the Thunderbolts, they reside in a folding fortress between dimensions, do... : Wiimope
        • LOL, I haven't read that comic in a while. :) : baronzemo78
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  http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/ : wasylm
  • oh god, i hate that website. : Klebold
  • that stupid blog is sooo January. : poopsex_
  • Spot on, as always. : Ebu
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  Good thing Far Cry 2 threw some Whiteys into their bad guy mix. You're not shooting the people in Resi... : Snuffles-
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    Hi Snuffles, I'm the shacker concerned here, so you can at least address it to me. I said in my first p... : Wiimope
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      Surely the previous games of the series give the intro and the game it's context? Any racial implications... : Snuffles-
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        But what if you hadn't got that context, if you hadn't finished Resi 4 to see the scene where "small Span... : Wiimope
        • Hopefully he'd finish watching the whole trailer before freaking out. : Snuffles-
        • It looks like someone is taking issue with something they're not fully knowledgeable on, like the Fox new... : ieGod
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  Preview of the intro movie STARS Commander: Chris Redfield, we need you to go into Africa, we have a s... : gmd
  • thats very south park (compliment). : Klebold
  • hahahaha : Jackass1233
  • hahahahahahaha (i imagined it all happening in south park voices) : virus
• Capcom needs to make a Resident Evil vs Dino Crisis game where you have Leon Kennedy riding a t-rex mowin... : TwiLyght
• I think its more racist to automatically assume seeing black people perpetuating a hostile situation and ... : two50six
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  I don't think that bit of narration sounds particularly problematic. As for RE5 "racism" in general, I... : Johnny Law
  • Wow this thread exploded while I was typing, I need to hunt-and-peck faster. : Johnny Law
  • Well said. It seems like some people will cry racism while others will claim racism "doesn't exist any... : das_runt
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  Was RE4 intolerant of religious peoples? http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=4995&game_id=178... : pyide
  • Hahahaha. I love that shot of him with the bazooka. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    ofc resi4 was awesome, but it was removed from reality in my opinion. i think its just because the africa... : Klebold
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      but at first you didn't know if the people were just crazy and trying to kill you or actually infected wi... : pyide
      • (because they are black) that was my fry moment of the day. thank you and good night! : pyide
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=14857751#itemanchor_14857751 : Mr.SEX
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  PS: Gametrailers has it in HD. Japanese version but it's the same + some Japanese subtitles. http://w... : pyide
  • well poop. guess that's not really HD. just 960x540. still looks better in motion than the one on the sha... : pyide
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  This post is the same as the tit incident with Jackson and Timberlake, a scandal out of nothing. : ErneX
  • then let this huge, ugly, spawn of mine die in peace. : Klebold

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  Get some real New York City salsa : gmd
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    "New York City?!?!" : zebosausamite
    • get a rope : jonin
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  Sbarro ftw. : zebosausamite
  • \m/ http://www.sikander.org/images/xmas2003/XMas%20Trip%20-%2007%20-%20NewYork%20-%2006_01.jpg \m/ : sikander
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    they have good pizza, but its pricey. : AMikaboshi
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      They do? I always get the shits the next day. : dudehoyt
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        No, they don't. Im sure AMikaboshi was kidding. : Tommy Toolbag
        • well i havn't eaten them in like 4 years, heh. : AMikaboshi
    • lol : skinlab133
    • Only if you like your pizza to taste like cardboard and uncooked toppings (including "cheese" if thats wh... : ovrlrd
  • Are you fucking serious? That's mall food court pizza. : ChibiJosh
  • Is this really representative of the "ny style" pizza people rave about so much? I hope not :P : s2jason
  • lol! that's crappy mall food court pizza FTL. : FormerHPB
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  Food in SF is terrible except for mexican and sushi. There is no diversity here :/ : askedrelic
  • there's some good indian food, but otherwise, i agree with you. : ibrokn
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    ...and chinese / indian food. In general indian food is a bit of a letdown in both ny and sf, but there's... : itsjames
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      well yea, but I will call vegetarian indian "good." It's all the same shit and full of empty carbs. : askedrelic
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        i don't know if you ever head outside of sf, but this is the best ethiopian restaurant in the bay area (i... : itsjames
        • * you're : itsjames
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    In San Francisco ? You're crazy. : taronish
    • I wanted to write this but I wasn't sure if I'm ignorant to what good food really is or not. I feel that... : rossimo
    • ^^^^^^ times a zillion : oatmela
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    the bay area as a whole has lots of random good food, i guess. my brown friends say there's a handful of ... : xsoulbrothax
    • Of course, I'm generalizing and not counting out the whole city, but I'm just set in my ways from the Eas... : askedrelic
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    Mexican food in SF? lol. : dopeman
    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_burrito : s2jason
• go here: http://riceny.com/ so good! : mikecyb
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  Get a dirty water dog so you can practice Jerry Orbach-style chomping. Make sure the camera begins rollin... : eldersveld
  • those things are god damned delicious when you are drunk and it's 2am. holy shit. otherwise I never had... : mikecyb
  • dirty dogs D: : megarust32
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  WTF is trench food? Food you find in the trenches? : voodooraze
  • Also wondering this : Head Rush
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    beef bulgogi <3 : Ebu
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17101359 : Ebu
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  korean food is damn good anywhere i suspect. : reverend~heresy
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    korean bbq in NYC is fantastic : trOmblyj
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      that is why I try to direct all nyc shackmeets around korean bbq : sergeon
      • they also have sweet shot glasses :D : mikecyb
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  Find baked zitti pizza while you're out there. It is like edible heaven. : ColoradoCNC
  • fresh taco express at 225 7th avenue is badass if you are lookin for tex mex. chinese guy cooks everythin... : peat
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  Pinkberry :( : laurgasms
  • OH also probably the best meal I've ever eaten in my life was here http://www.1291swizz.com/ I got the... : laurgasms
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    You know, I was about to mourn the loss of pinkberry as I move from New York to Cincinnati but lo and beh : sergeon
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      oh but you get Skyline chili in return so you win : Jayx77
      • ugh, no thanks :( : sergeon
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    Pinkberry is a SoCal thing that got weirdly transplanted to NYC, kind of like Jamba Juice. : Serpico74
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      it's not really weird to bring delicious deserts to the largest city in the country : mikecyb
      • desserts :( : mikecyb
  • Red Mango? : aethyr
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  also, eat some Ethiopian food - it is also good : trOmblyj
  • it's not good. it's fucking amazing. that and dim sum are just awesome to eat with a group of friends. : mindmann
  • Go to a place named...Ghenec? At Mulberry and Houston. You can thank me later. : Ovate
• mudpie, shrapnel sandwich, meatloaf : threeup
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  Best Middle Eastern food you can get: http://www.zaytoonsrestaurant.com/ It's the only thing I miss ab... : ChibiJosh
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    MAMOUNS: http://www.mamounsfalafel.com/ : Serpico74
    • oh shit, mamoun's! : itsjames
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  Where did you get pizza? Because its actually pretty difficult to find really good pizza in Manhattan if ... : bozer
  • Lombardi's, or something like that... Steak at Peter Lugar. Steak is now ruined for me. : walker270
• Don't forget to get some street meat while you are there. : riptyde
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  I want to live in NYC just for the food. : freshyk
  • it's a blessing the food rocks so much. no one can afford an apartment with a kitchen nice enough to cook... : dahanese
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  Good luck finding some decent Mexican food, though. That shit is rough. : MaxPete82
  • I live in New Mexico. I don't expect to find good Mexican in New York. : walker270
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    I still stand by Pio Maya as my fave cheapo taqueria : sergeon
    • I like Lupe's East LA Kitchen : aethyr
• you wont have BBQ food or mexican food ruined am i rite : ninjase

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  maybe cause they don't make as much money off the monthly bills on the non smart phones, so they charge m... : mwasher
  • that might be part of it ... trying to force people to pick the phones with more long term rev related to... : Nation
• $200 for a phone with a contract signup is highway robbery. $200 without one, is perfectly normal. : jingletard
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  palm centro ftw. ditch verizon: http://www.sprint.com/sero : maulla
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    make sure it's still free text messaging i don't know if that rolled over again : Deathlove
    • also i am glad to see you pimp sero i trust it has treated you well! : Deathlove
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    can I get a sprint email? My sprint contact is no longer there : Nation
    • savings@sprintemi.com should still work : maulla
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    it's asking me to enter an email address. What do I do? I want to look into this in more detail. : ConfusedUs
    • jennifer.r.walsh@sprint.com should work : Deathlove
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    Am I reading this right? 500 minutes Unlimited Text Unlimited Data Free Roaming Free Nights/Weeken... : ConfusedUs
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      sero is love : Deathlove
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        Goddamn. What's the catch. There has to be a catch. : ConfusedUs
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          well, it is sprint, which if you haven't heard, gets shit on regularly. the customer service is iffy. but... : Deathlove
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            Can't be worse than US Cellular, where I had to call four or five times every six-ish weeks to fix my acc... : ConfusedUs
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              If you have any problems, try going through eCare. If they persist, they have special numbers for calling... : Deathlove
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                I am a goon, and I am reading (I've got the thread open as well as every post by the OP open), but my TOO... : ConfusedUs
                • I've been on it since last August. <3 <3 <3 : Deathlove
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      yes, it's fucking awesome. I recommend the Moto Q9C if your gonna get em... GPS/Internet/WM6/Music/Blueto... : giantshift
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        no, the correct answer is "mogul" : Deathlove
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          can you put Garmin Mobile XT on it? i'm looking on google and so far it looks like you can't for the mogu... : giantshift
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            I run TomTom on mine : fatalsync
            • yea, just saw that you can run that. i've already planned my day tomorrow and it includes going to the sp... : giantshift
      • fuck windows mobile, and double fuck motorola phones : maulla
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    does sprint have a pay as you go phone? the coverage is this area looks iffy and I wouldnt mind getting s... : RobFlinn
    • According to the site, there's a 30-day money-back guarantee. As long as you return your phone in good co... : ConfusedUs
  • This thread convinced me. I just signed up for SERO. Let us hope they don't want fifty bazillon dollar... : ConfusedUs
• well, the LG Voyager is almost a smartphone -- touchscreen, full HTML browser, mobile TV, etc. : Postal
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  I tried to sign up for Verizon and they want a $400 dollar deposit. Per line. I was trying to get three l... : ConfusedUs
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    Nation: I forgot to mention that those phones are half that price on the Verizon website and less than a ... : ConfusedUs
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      Amazon is the way to be. I am about to pick up two env2 for my wife and I. On verizon.com: $100. On am... : riptyde
      • I tried. But I can't because Verizon wants this ridiculous deposit. I really liked the enV2. : ConfusedUs
  • yeah, I am in a major Verizon area, though I believe the sprint coverage is about the same (if not the sa... : Nation
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    its because you're under 25. at Cingular when i worked there, someone under 25 could have perfect credit,... : g0nk
    • I'm 26 baby. : ConfusedUs
    • I got my cellphone when I was like 19 with verizon and had no deposit, they said I had good credit, I did... : RobFlinn

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  Eep. I use about 150Gb/month between all of my machines here at home. : RomSteady
  • haha seriously, I can eat 40gb in 1 week. Hell, I could even do it legally for the hell of it, too. : askedrelic
• $55 for a 40 gig cap. Boy that fucking sucks. : pigvomit
• They can eat shit. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  40GB a month is just wrong. : Toraz Chryx
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    i agree... but its more than 99% of internet users use. : krym3
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      not likely true in the next 5 yeras : kill9
      • I do agree with that... Who wants to bet that we go down the road of net neutrality... So say i want t... : krym3
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  wtf 40GB? At least Comcast's 250GB cap they're thinking about is reasonable. : DapperDan
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    No cap is reasonable. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Yeah, everything should be free. : dearjamie
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        You get your internet for free? That's funny, I pay almost $100 a month for it. That doesn't seem very f... : Ebu
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          I pay for my electricity every month. Do they give me as much as I want? : dearjamie
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            ....yes? : skinlab133
            • For a flat price? : dearjamie
          • If you use no electricity one month do they charge you 100 dollars? : Delusional
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        Don't even start with me, squatter. : Robotic Puppy Eater
        • Yeah wow that really hurt. I spent 6 figures on .coms in May, ask me if I care. : dearjamie
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        What's the monthly bill I pay each month for then? : DM7
        • Apparently 40 gigs : dearjamie
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  I expected caps would eventually, be standard, but 40 gigs? Pretty clear they are aiming to stop streamin... : Tommy Toolbag
  • They have shit caps here in NZ, and they either charge more per gig after of throttle your speeds so expe... : oldschoolbob-o
• at least it's for new subscribers only, for now. : mattfl
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  How the hell do you guys use more than 40 gb? I watch a lot of porn, but unless I am torrenting stuff I s... : eldiablo01
  • start using hulu, xbox media, psn demos/previews/etc, netflix downloads, amazon unbox, steam games, etc e... : hirez
  • I probably use that on my Apple TV if you include HD Podcasts and the TV shows I purchase... let alone if... : drucifer
  • downloading Age of Conan once lololol : askedrelic
  • Games from Steam, Streaming video that damn near every large site has now, assorted other downloads.. : painangel
  • I stream stuff everyday from Hulu. Not to mention all the HD game trailers, youtube streams, porn and gam : Danny5225
  • I use up more than 40gb a month on gametap + steam alone. : SenorSpine
• Eh, it's a damn sight better then the 5GB cap the ISP I work for has, haha. : camel_jockey
• There's no way this will be the future of the Internet, don't worry guys. The Internet is possibly the gr... : SockMonkeh
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  wait is this happening everywher? : Clay
  • if you find out, let me know and vice versa. :/ : kainen1
  • hey, I spoke with a TW tech last week. I was asking him about the speed increases and he said TW will pro... : prime8
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  dear FIOS, hurry the fuck up and get to socal already. : mankeroo
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    Verizon will cap when the others do. Verizon isnt exactly known for giving things away. : Tommy Toolbag
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      The only reason the cable ISPs are capping is because their last mile bandwidth sucks ass and is oversold... : zakk
      • This, and also like the article mentions cable bandwidth caps act as a pre-emptive strike against the thr... : camel_jockey
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        They dont care about shitty performance on the last mile, imho. Its all about protecting on demand/ppv se... : Tommy Toolbag
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          You don't think they stand to gain more by stealing customers from cable than they do by protecting their... : Delusional
          • No, you can get internet, tv service, or both via FIOS. As for stealing customers, Im not sure the averag... : Tommy Toolbag
        • Actually they do care about the last mile performance. While all this capping crap may have a nice side e... : zakk
    • yay Massachusetts for stopping Verizon from expanding FIOS in the state. : Crimsonbeak
    • oh, also. while fios may be have 'limited' availability, Verizon is purposefully hitting the cable compan... : zakk
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  Heh, all at once I don't feel bad about my cap and our internet here in Australia. : SpaecKow
  • lol yeah I actually have more than that per month. It's more expensive though. : aeg1x
• Rogers just started doing this in Canada. It fucking sucks. : moogle
• damn. It's only a matter of time : jonin
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  Oh great, so I can download a handful of demos off Live, a handful of PC demos, patch AoC once, and MAYBE... : ColoradoCNC
  • ya really. i've been watching alot of netflix instantly, my 40gb would go so quickly. : AMikaboshi
• Well considering my 1.5mbps DSL connection I don't think I'd ever hit that :/ : phate81
• note to self: never get Time Warner : derelict515
• I would fucking kill for that down here. Its $50 per month for 10gigs here AT BEST. : Cliffzorz
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  Welcome to our world :\ my current plan is 40gig a month with up to 8 megabit down/384 kilobits up (de... : shavenewok
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    40gig! I pay the same and get fucking 15gig... I FUCKING HATE IT! : radula
    • who are you through?! : shavenewok
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    what kind of rip off shit is that? $69 20 gig onpeak / 40 gig offpeak 18 down / 1 up : aeg1x
    • is that ADSL2? : shavenewok
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  It says "for new subscribers" though. Does that mean only new accounts will be capped but current custome... : prime8
  • interesting thought. im pretty sure that current customers came on board when they advertised their inte... : NeoMoose

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• http://www.shacknews.com/shackmeet/events.x?id=4824 : PapaBoo
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  haha fat crib : tomservo
  • I know. Thanks Papaboo. lol : ThomW
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  I'm going, but I'm wondering about Saturday if there's going to be drinky-drinky. Is there couch or floor... : zerog83
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    I've already claimed one of the bedrooms, but that's because I'm traveling the furthest away, for Friday ... : PapaBoo
    • that's cool. I don't mind spooning sleeping on a floor if it's cool with Thom : zerog83
    • can i sleep at the foot of your bed? : Korban
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    I'm hoping people aren't getting totally sloshed. haha My wife is already kind of at her limit knowing... : ThomW
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      I'm anything but strange! Nah that's cool. I won't drink much then. I only live about 40 minutes away. : zerog83
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        Plus I'm terrible at Rock Band when I've had too many. 360 or PS3 Rock Band, btw? : zerog83
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          360 : ThomW
          • Hotness. I'm bringing my Gibson X-Plorer controller; I won't play with anything else! : zerog83
    • i'll keep the knife play to a minimum : fletch_
    • your wife should know shackers are not strangers. : mp7rox
    • aww. I guess the drive from SC is out then :) : jonin
• I'm bringing a spandex jumpsuit : MisterPhoton
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  Why do you fagnuts always do these things when I am unavailable? : SockMonkeh
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    mostly because you don't show up to local shackmeets, so why would you go clear to PA? ;-) : MisterPhoton
    • I was including you local guys in the "fagnuts" label. : SockMonkeh
  • This was thrown together because I'm coming up to PA for a separate reason, I apologize for not clearing ... : PapaBoo
  • No heteros allowed. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    where in the hell do you actually live? : Korban
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      MD : SockMonkeh
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        oh gees, dood! why the hell haven't you been to any of my shackmeets?!?! : Korban
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          http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17099132#itemanchor_17099132 : SockMonkeh
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            when Evil Benius comes back from Australia i'm gonna have a "Welcome Back" shackmeet. i'll make sure you... : Korban
            • This sounds like an awesome plan. : Evil Benius
            • We should have an Australian themed party. Jam out to Men At Work, Midnight Oil and do our worst Steve I... : ThomW
          • Go to Hersheypark.com and mark the days that the park's open for Halloween on your calendar now so you ca... : ThomW
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        Is there a big balloon festival or Frisbee tournament that day? : ThomW
        • Haha, no, my grandparents are having a big 60th anniversary celebration all weekend. : SockMonkeh
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          It's like you guys don't understand the whole concept of being on a team. :( Or maybe you don't understan... : perstephanie
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            lol Don't take it personally. I'm just being funny (or trying to be). Sorry. :) : ThomW
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              Nah it's cool. I just think not screwing over a bunch of people is a better excuse than a balloon festiva... : perstephanie
              • An excuse to get drunk and look at balloons I guess. : ThomW
• i never have other plans, but i do that day :( : feek
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  Fuck you guys and fuck your tacos :( : Evil Benius
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    I think I will go hang out with Australian ThomW and eat Australian tacos that weekend! Note: Australi... : Evil Benius
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      What's an Australian taco? Does it have Vegemite on it instead of cheese? : ThomW
      • I am not quite sure yet. : Evil Benius
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  I'll be there in August - let's take a vote and push it back? : kgargonmagrix79
  • the I's have it (there's one in my name) : kgargonmagrix79
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    I"m not going to be there in August and I'm the reason for the shackmeet : PapaBoo
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      I hope your crown is back from the polisher by then, your majesty! : ThomW
      • Hahaha : Evil Benius
      • lol'd : FormerHPB
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        :( : PapaBoo
        • don't worry, they're just envious of your Half-Life 1 skills : Postal
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  I want to go to ThomW's fat crib :( : dognose
  • You don't want to do that. Remember, we still have to arm wrestle. : zerog83
• Someone should bring the grease and someone else bring the monkeys. : Sailor of Fortune
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  It's so far awayyyyy :( : perstephanie
  • what! no it's not. 2 hours tops! : zerog83
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    Car pool so you can sleep and make someone else drive. ;) : ThomW
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      I would have to - can't drive myself anyway. I just got an evite for a friend's pool party that day thoug... : perstephanie
      • I'm going to have an awesome list of things to make fun of people about for when the Hersheypark Shackmee... : ThomW
      • I personally invited you at least 2 weeks ago, so that trumps any pool party evite : PapaBoo
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  does thomw know he's having a shackmeet? : dantastic
  • Well aware. :) : ThomW