Evening Reading

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• Awesome. : Arcanum
• fucking wow, thanks for the link : kingfish
• books r dum : GloriousCow
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  So few of those are in America. Do Americans hate books? :( : Perturbation
  • This is a country that didn't properly teach evolution in schools for decades. : Lone Swordsman
  • most of those shits are older than america : JINKY
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    There are so few beautiful libraries (or buildings, for that matter) in America because the country is "y... : DrWaffles
    • shhh, don't bring logic into this AmericaHate thread. : deathofrats
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    from the list. Boston Copley Public Library, Boston, USA Frederick Ferris Thompson Memorial Library, ... : GloriousCow
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      Stop! You need to be putting Americans down because they are idiots and morans! : deathofrats
      • american r so fat dey probly eat da bookz amirite lol lol : aeg1x
    • Well, I'll be. I take it back. : Lone Swordsman
    • raped : ninjase
    • Well I'll say *clears throat* I do believe dear boy you've been anally penetrated *adjusts monocle and to... : two50six
    • why do you not hate america? what the fuck is wrong with you? : [fry]
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      glory to the gloriouscow! : dromo5
      • best cow evar : Johnny Law
    • you forgot the Berkeley one. : edgewise
    • lmao! i love you so much :D : Korban
    • jesus christ you just destroyed him. He may never come back. : burning eye
    • * O W N E D * : Zero|DPX
    • Hahahaha. Should I ever meet you, I'm buying you a beer for this post. : alarm cock
    • Why don't you just chop off his foot if you are going to own him Kunta Kinta style? : rosewood
    • lol... obviously he ran away after this. good one Mr. Cow. : mwasher
    • MEEEEEEEEDIC! : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Perturbation before this post: (_Y_) Perturbation after this post (_O_) : Dimmona
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    Russians hate them more. http://englishrussia.com/?p=1849 : tsuba
    • I think it was more a question of not being able to afford libraries. : Lone Swordsman
  • The US has only been around for ~240 years. Plus instead of having a few grandiose libraries we have mult... : ninjase
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    in my town we have on one road, oohh about 8 churches. Each about two, maybe three miles away from each o... : Dschinghis Khan
    • churches are privately funded and libraries are not. : Galadriel07
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    I thik the public library in Sedona, Arizona is beautiful : dognose
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      Holy crap look at this picture of Sedona that I just found http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commo... : dognose
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        that is beautiful! : Galadriel07
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          I got fambly in Sedona and get there from time to time, am going this year. Been there? The whole place... : dognose
          • I've been there a few times, it was cool. I also liked Jerome. : Mansmells
          • i have never been there but it looks pretty enough that I need to go see it! : Galadriel07
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        i live in tucson and views like this are not that uncommon. the desert formations and mountains around ... : dromo5
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          Got fambly in Tucson and ya know what we do when I visit there? We play miniature golf. Fuck 105 degree... : dognose
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            nah, when it hits 100 i hide indoors. : dromo5
            • 112 in a stadium is the worst I've encountered. I think I accepted Christ that day : dognose
          • The first time i visited Bakersfield was May of 2001. I got there and it was about 105 degrees. We deci... : Galadriel07
• THe first time I ever went into Harper was the first time I ever thought I wasn't smart enough to be in a... : Deathlove
• those are stunning. : zen!
• I should read more. : owly
• holy shit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joseluisl/161868597/in/set-72157594157815545/ : a uberboy
• suzzallo library is awesome, glad to see that on the list. : dravalen
• Oh man, I thought this was about beautiful librarians... nerdy hot chicks with glasses. : Fred Garvin
• Is it bad I kept looking for symmetrical book stacking just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947... : SolrFlare
• wow : soapland

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  I'd be interested but I am unsure as to buying a program to play it on the internet. : ConfusedUs
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    Also if anyone has any specific 4th Edition questions I can answer. I've had the books for several days. : ConfusedUs
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      how'd you get them? :) : Bantis
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        Walked into local comic shop and they were sitting on the shelf with a price tag. Quite a few places h... : ConfusedUs
        • ah awesome : Bantis
• I'm interested, but I'm not very creative. : Chunks
• I use Fantasy Grounds. I'd be in for it. My old group quit playing awhile back. : jonin
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  Hmm, only $24 for a player license. Interesting looking program. Not a Mac version, by chance? : Ebu
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    If there's no Mac version there's no way I can play. My primary machine is a Mac and I don't want to have... : ConfusedUs
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      you could run it in VMWare or Parallels without having to restart your whole machine : derelict515
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        And then I'd have to buy that. I really don't want to spend >$50 to play D&D on the internet. : ConfusedUs
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          its also obviously useful for far more than D&D... : derelict515
          • Obviously not to him or he'd already have done it. : Ebu
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  It's too bad we can't just all get together and play. That'd be awesome :( Where do you live anyway, B... : Modica Sol Solis
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    suburbs of Chicago :) : Bantis
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      Well shit, I'm gonna be in Libertyville come Thursday till Monday afternoon, and it's just a short train ... : Modica Sol Solis
      • I just started working as a QA tester at High Voltage, so I don't know what my hours will be yet, but I m... : Bantis
• I've never played D&D before but I'm picking up 4th edition books because a lot of people around here sud... : pwnage1232
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  4th edition is supposed to have a built in official and very badass online tabletop software.. I believe... : ]aratex[
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    Yeah, it does sound that way, but I'm not sure that I'm interested in paying that much to play D&D online... : Vincent Grayson
    • I'm pretty sure you get a free month with your book purchase. At least you can try it out that way. : ConfusedUs
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    yeah but when is that actually going to be out? : derelict515
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      next week : jonin
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        oh sweet, I hadn't heard anything about it since long ago : derelict515
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          Friday : Ebu
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            is there a link to any of this? This might be exactly what we need then : Bantis
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              here is a news story on it http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344888,00.html : kelbane
              • that actually sounds really awesome : Bantis
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  If this is a forum based thing i'd be intereted as i've always liked the idea of P&P AD&D but never knew ... : shavenewok
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    Once I get the hang of 4th I'd love to DM a game. I haven't in years but I miss it. :( : Ebu
    • I haven't played DnD ever but it's something I've always wanted to try ever since I learned how to read o... : Psigun
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    A forum based thing would be interesting. I don't know how we'd handle dice rolls...but I could definitel... : Modica Sol Solis
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      There is an online RPG forum already running. Dice rolls are handled on forum, publicly viewed and unedit... : Ebu
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        That seems perfect and it also seems to be what a lot of people have the most experience with as far as o... : Psigun
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          Where's the liiink : Modica Sol Solis
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            I know the SA Goons have one up and running ... http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?foru... : kelbane
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              My only fear with a forum based play through would be how slow it could run overall : Bantis
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                I never understood the appeal behind playing tabletop games by forum post for exactly this reason. I gues... : Sephilim
                • yea i think there it starts to lose a bit : Bantis
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        Then that would be perfect. So who here besides me has DM exprience? : Modica Sol Solis
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          I played Dungeon Keeper 1 and 2 a lot. : Psigun
          • this made me laugh : Bantis
        • I do but I don't know if I'll have the time to devote to setting up a campaign. I could help run the thi... : classicfork
      • http://www.rpol.net : Ebu
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  I'd be all for this but I really don't want to pay for all the books and then 40 bucks on top of that for... : Psigun
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    Only book you need to play is the PHB : Ebu
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      Sweet, then. What is that, 20-30 bucks? : Psigun
      • Yep.. but seems like a ripoff since you can preorder the core book boxset from Amazon for like $57 shipp... : ]aratex[
• Yeah, I'm interested. Keep me informed. : Goncyn
• How do you think Fantasy Grounds will compare with the D&D Insider thingie Wizards / Gleemax is doing? : kenmis
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  Check out OpenRPG and Maptool before you commit to FantasyGrounds. They're both free. I've used ORPG a lo... : Sephilim
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    I tried OpenRPG out a bit and wasn't too impressed with it. Seems sort of buggy and has a somewhat clunky... : Psigun
    • Agreed, the UI isn't the greatest, but the developer version (1.7.7) seems to fix some stability problems... : Sephilim
• So we came up with some ideas last night. Anyone who has experience DMing want to spearhead this now? Sin... : Bantis

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  They have that game for the DS D: : dognose
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    Mario Kart, Tetris and Dig Dug are more fun on the DS D: : tomservo
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      I think I am the only person on Earth who does not like Mario Kart. Also I bought Namco Museum for DS, i... : dognose
      • It has Dig Dug 2! :D I'm not super into Mario Kart, in fact Mario Kart DS is the only one I've ever ow... : tomservo
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  We were talking about this last night on Live and no one seems to know what the hell is going on with CoD... : Evil Benius
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    they've said that it's a new setting. : grifter
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      1776 setting : DM7
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        It'd be hilarious when it takes me 30 seconds just to reload my fucking musket. : ejectorpod
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          3 shots + reloads in 60 seconds if you're a good marksman :D : tomservo
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            marksman...now, what level do you get that? Not 55 I hope... : ejectorpod
            • Cannoneers are too op. :~( : DM7
      • That would own hahahaha : tomservo
      • i'd be the guy playing the bugle. : j0nchan
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfZ-lBzBr6Y : TrptJim
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      The Pacific would be a new setting for CoD. : Evil Benius
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        Wasn't there a Medal of Honor pacific game? I remember Dsylecksskxizi liked it. I never checked it out pa... : tomservo
        • Yah I believe there was. : Evil Benius
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      Vietnam? I'd probably juice myself. : Orange Pylon
      • Vietnam needs more love. : Modica Sol Solis
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        CoD Nam would be pretty fucking cool. Just no god damn tunnel missions. I swear that damn mission almost ... : sigpro
        • Agreed. I was ALMOST ready to give up on motherfucking Vietcong, and about 5 minutes after that notion I ... : tomservo
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    I've always had a huge interest in SpecOps and "Tactical" warfare, so Call of Duty 4 was a huge excitemen... : tomservo
    • its so refreshing to have a modern based shooter that isnt tactical. I hate thinking, and all the OpFor, ... : Klebold
  • I'd really like to know if they used CoD4 engine as a base or if they used their own stuff. The feeling ... : johngloid
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    I bet a COD game set in the korean war would be interesting. i mean it's not flat out vietnam and not ... : -=kodiak=-
    • You'd get to fight loads of Chinese. It would be intense. : Perturbation
    • I completely agree...I've been saying a Korean War FPS could be great (hell a WWI FPS could be good...mos... : Vorlonesque
  • I'd like to see an alternate-history WWII game. LIke if we didn't nuke Japan (or they didn't surrender) ... : Perturbation
• CoD:3014 : oHnOES
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  cod5 is being made by those nerds who made cod3, rather than infinity ward : JINKY
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    Was 3 any good? Or just an afterthought...? : tomservo
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      It was good. People were just sick of WW2 games. : razlebol
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        I thought it sucked. CoD 2 was a lot more enjoyable than 3 was for me. Issues I had with it - diff... : sigpro
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          2's infinite respawns were enough to make me want to kill myself. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=12... : tomservo
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            2's were bad in a few levels. In 3 I thought it was even worse because the save points sucked so bad. I p... : sigpro
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              I quit halfway through the Rusky campaign in 2. I couldn't do it. Fuck that shit :( : tomservo
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                I enjoyed 2. It had some issues as does 4 but those 2 were my favorites in the series with 4 being way ah... : sigpro
                • I just have a bit of an aversion of having my hand held for an entire game... it totally sucks and I wish... : tomservo
                • I feel exactly the same way. : Wisp!
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      it was ok, it wasn't as good as cod1/2 but i guess it was decent : JINKY
      • I guess they were into their formulaic style by that time. It seems to have been greatly streamlined for ... : tomservo
    • i liked it because all of the Canadians had ridiculously stereotypical accents : n0v4
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    >:-( : navelskrutt
    • :( : tomservo
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    The engine is solid though. So long as they bring something fresh in terms of who you're fighting against... : K1Bond007
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      i thought the cod 4 'engine' was just an insanely modified quake 3 engine : -=kodiak=-
      • No. It's proprietary. Call of Duty was heavily modified Q3. CoD2 was proprietary too. There might be Q3 c... : K1Bond007
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  I'm only excited for the odd numbered Call of Duty releases. If it's not Infinity Ward, it's not Call of... : Altanar
  • Even numbered, rather. **smack** : Altanar
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    I thought COD3 was pretty decent for a non IW game. Multiplayer was pretty fun, it was like BF42 without ... : Sailor of Fortune
    • I liked it, but it wasn't anything special. : Altanar
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  I want another modern warfare. I hope they don't go all fucking space age on us, that would suck balls. ... : navelskrutt
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    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfighter? : grifter
    • Call of Duty: Ghost in the Shell? : ShoCon
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    modern warfare is the new WW2... the setting is so overdone I'm immediately put off by it now. : aeg1x
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      Really, what good realistic shooters have done modern warfare? I mean COD4, and Rainbow Six Vegas maybe a... : navelskrutt
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        Operation Flashpoint... ArmA, ALL of the Rainbow Six games (just Vegas? pffffft), Ghost Recon 1. : tomservo
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          Those are tactical shooters and actually quite rare nowadays. I'd kill for a true sequel to R6 or GR. I l... : K1Bond007
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            Agreed. I feel robbed about Ghost Recon. 2 just made me bitter because it was basically like Delta Force:... : tomservo
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              but GRAW is fun. Also the multiplayer co-op is fun, it's also funny as shit w/ Ajax and brickmatt. : sigpro
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                Oh I'm sure the coop is fun. Hell, Army of Two coop wasn't that bad. I would never play it single-player ... : tomservo
                • The co-op is a lot different than the SP. Different missions and it plays a little different also. Co-op ... : sigpro
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                I didn't think GRAW was really all that special. As a die-hard R6 fan though I gotta say for consoles Veg... : K1Bond007
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                  Oh and.. for Vegas, Terrorist Hunt sucks ass. Maybe a good co-op thing, but the enemy AI is completely un... : K1Bond007
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                    Lone Wolf is an option in T-hunt. You can do 4 player co-op or you + 2 AI at least in vegas 2. : sigpro
                    • Well I don't see the option for 2 AI buddies in Vegas 1. :( I don't have Vegas 2. I can't afford new gam... : K1Bond007
        • Well, recently. I mean Ghost Recon 1 didn't really have the proper atmosphere because the graphics just w... : navelskrutt
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  My favorite was doing the whole opening drive with the "rag-time warfare' cheat on. : uglysad
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    What's that? : tomservo
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNVUjrGxNBM&feature=related : sigpro
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        hahahahahaha : tomservo
        • After watching that again, the guy playing fucking sucks at COD4. He should have grabbed the RPG by the b... : sigpro
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  COD4 is a fucking masterpiece. : [fry]
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    Also I'm a total fucking gun nerd and I love to complain when movies and games do guns wrong but I couldn... : [fry]
    • im too busy glitch loading on every reload so i can get on with more killing, much more quickly to notic... : -=kodiak=-
    • AA seems pretty realistic though I'm no expert. It's got weapon jams and everything though and the freque... : K1Bond007

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• vote'd he's in 2nd : doomed
• I voted. : Maddog_Delphi97
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  Oh yea, the reward. Just reply letting me kNoW you voted and tell me your preferred female hair color an : rosewood
  • voted. Red. : heatmizer
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    Black. : TastyWheat
    • Oh ya and voted etc. : TastyWheat
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  done and done : Megara9
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    female hair colour, rosewood? :( : Megara9
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      Just think of it this way: If you had to see a woman naked, what color would you want her hair to be? : rosewood
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        The colour of love? : Afterglow
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          So another vote for white? : rosewood
          • MOTHA FUCKIN LOL OLOLOLOLOL : ejectorpod
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  I voted - and I don't even know if ERA means Equal Rights Ammendment, or Earned Run Average. : seven
  • Earned Run Average. Has a change up that will make a grown man cry. It has been great watching people g... : rosewood
• done, hope he wins : oHnOES
• Voted, he's in 2nd at 29% (2 points back, come on Shackers!) and I'm a sucker for a redhead. : carrioN luggagE
• so voted. : Fredrik S
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  Voted. I can never have enough brunettes. : yoonix
  • voted, and same : Rag and Bone Man
• voted : phipple
• one more for robert musgrave, hear, hear! : proclone1
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  Voted. White. : spiderfill
  • Now that is going to be a hard request to fill, I'll be honest. : rosewood
• voted : Jiven
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  I voted. Keep voting you guys, almost in the lead. Cole St.Clair (Rice University) 30% Rob Musgrave (... : .ka`boom.zZz.
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    Way to go shack. Rob has been about 2% down for about a week and a half. Good to see those #s moving. : rosewood
    • I trust your opinion, you seem to be an honest guy so whatever. Plus my name is Rob. Fuck yea Rob must w... : .ka`boom.zZz.
• Voted. Red. : Chunks
• done. : edgewise
• Voted. : Warrior5689
• votimated : zerog83
• Voted. Red, please. : kingdok
• Done. : bcyde
• Voted. Red. : MaJeStu
• voted. : Mmmmmoo
• Voted, he's still in 2nd. He better be good Rosewood! : Mondo
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  Voted. Anything but blonde. : MKCluney
  • Shit! Or gray... no gray please. : MKCluney
• Voted. He's closing in. : Head Rush
• Voted. Come on shack we can do it! : packav
• VOTED : Rice-Rocketeer
• Voted, he's still @ 29% with the leader @ 30%. : FPSDavid
• voted, he's at 29% in second place! : ejectorpod
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  Voted. He's in 2nd place with 29%, 1st place has 30%. When does voting end? If I get my home PC setu... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Oh, and red. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I think it goes for a few more days. Maybe as much as a week. I think they announce the winner in the C... : rosewood
• voted : itsjames
• Voted! I'll hit up again at midnight. : ryuuseki
• I voted, but some other dude is winning :( : Dave-A
• voted : onji
• voted. : mindmann
• Voted. : whore
• voted : prime8
• check : IcomeINpeace
• done, still in 2nd with 29% and I got to go with a brunette : painangel
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  voted for josh scott just kidding i voted for your guy : fuzzydamnit
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    He's not his guy buddy. : mossman85
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      Alright pal.......... : Phreakin
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        Thanks dudes. : rosewood
        • Also thank you shack Cole St.Clair (Rice University) 30% Rob Musgrave (Wichita State University) 30% ... : rosewood
      • Settle down chief : prime8
    • South Park joke :( : mossman85
• voted : AMikaboshi
• Voted... he's at 30% tied with a Cole St. Clair. I can has cheeseburger?! : coraldayton
• voted, and I hate baseball. : valael
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  Done, and it's now tied up. Lemme try changing my IP & voting again :) : mafu5150
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    You just have to clear your cookies. I vote in FF and IE each day on all 5 of my computers here and any ... : rosewood
    • i voted again using IE :P : .ka`boom.zZz.
• voted too : AlexXdude
• Voted, still tied : FiReaNG3L
• voted : land
• Y'all rock, thank you. : rosewood

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  One of the reviewers came out and said it was pretty much bullshit and that none of the cutscenes go for ... : aeg1x
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    Which one? Because several of the European print magazines have come out and said that not only are ther... : deathofrats
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      Why would you have multiple installs? : SiW73
      • Because your initial install would be embarrassingly huge and you want to try to break it up? : stratedge
      • I think they break up the big install by doing it in pieces, like during a cutscene or whatever. : OmegaRed59
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  I still am amazed people care about the length of the cut scenes. it is an MGS game, the cut scenes are h... : Evil Benius
  • I heard gears of war has COVER! you can just HIDE FROM BULLETS! wtf?! : 60days
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    Yes, Metal Gear Solid has had long cut scenes, but most of them have been less than 20 minutes long. I r... : Grumbeld
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      Sit down and play the game without a hard cap on your end time so you would not have to quit in the middl... : Evil Benius
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        Sit down and play the game without a hard cap on your end time That doesn't work when you're talking a... : Arcanum
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          I really do not think there is anything wrong with that for one game. If you have an hour left to play an... : Evil Benius
          • A 45 minute boss battle might be fun. A 45 (or 90) minute cutscene in a MGS game will be pure hell. It'll... : NastyJack
          • A 45 minute boss battle would probably be a giant pain in the ass. It would probably also be pretty bori... : Arcanum
          • how can you predict when you're coming up on an absurdly long, no one else would make it this long, cutsc... : derelict515
  • I've always loved Final Fantasy and the massive cinematics were integral to that. It helped it feel m... : Ebu
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    It's supposed to be a game. One that I want to play. If I'm watching a 90 minute cutscene, I'm not long... : Arcanum
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      It's supposed to be whatever the fuck Kojima Productions wants it to be. There are plenty of people out ... : Frank_Mackey
      • ^^ A lot of people enjoy this type of game or else there wouldn't be at number 4 and that's not counting ... : razlebol
      • Funny that. I see people complaining about games they have never played or have no intention of playing a... : Fred Garvin
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    I flat out refuse to sit and watch a cutscene longer than 5 minutes that has the quality of writing that ... : NastyJack
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      Then the game is not for you, tons of people DO want this. : Evil Benius
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        Even people I know who love the MGS games were annoyed as hell with the cutscenes. And now this game take... : NastyJack
        • I love cut scenes in games and enjoyed the ones in the MGS games. : Evil Benius
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          well the people you know are in the vast minority, most people loved the cutscenes. : klearlyunseen
          • I can't say I enjoy them, I like MGS, but it's a little over the top. : devi| dog
    • if you think the quality of writing is lame then why care about skipping the storyline : Chandler55
  • People are just piling on. It's mob mentality. I don't even think people think too much, they're just out... : Shai-Tan
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  better hope the save points are after those cinematics. : erotic sock
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    In my opinion any cutscene over 20 seconds in length should have pause, rewind and skip functions as well... : marmite
    • That'd be a great idea. Including the first time you watch it. : ConfusedUs
    • Unfortunately no rewind, but you CAN pause and skip cutscenes in MGS 4. : sevogajre
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      It's pretty much impossible to have rewind on in-game cutscenes. : ZombieAcademy
      • nothing is impossible - adidas : Chandler55
  • MGS has always let you save at any time. : Evil Benius
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    there had better be checkpoints during the cinematic in case you ragequit. : Klebold
    • I hear there's a cutscene in the quit sequence. : SiW73
• Sounds like MGS2 all over again. No thanks. : Begawkiness
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  Subthread: As someone who's never played any of the series, is it worth starting at MGS1 and playing thro... : AMikaboshi
  • Ive never played them either... I don't plan on playing them before MGS4 if this 90 minute cutscene bu... : MagicWishMonkey
  • I would recommend it. I feel the games get better as they progress and it is fun to see the changes and d... : Evil Benius
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    MGS1 is one of the best games ever made, and MGS3 is right there with it. MGS2 was the most ridiculous s... : fry975
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      MGS2 is worth playing even with the crazy story. The gameplay is still amazing and the story ain't that b... : razlebol
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        I really don't get this at all. Okay, I'm a Metal Gear fanboy, but is MGS2 *really* that confusing to pe : SiW73
        • I enjoyed the story myself. I just didn't understand the ending and I still don't understand it. : razlebol
        • I played MGS2 before MGS1 and I enjoyed both games. MGS2's plot does get ridiculous towards the end but i... : nudel
        • I think the problem with MGS2 it didn't come out and explain that you just infected a highly advanced AI ... : ghost in my shell
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        i still have no idea what MGS 2 was about. That story was frustrating to try and figure out. : burning eye
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          It was a recreation of the events of MGS1 to be used as a simulation to see if it was possible to control : Evil Benius
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            so basically it was Mario 2 :) : burning eye
            • Yeah, but every time you choose Mario, they make you play as toad and the Princess interrupts your game e... : cornchak
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    I would start with MGS3, and then play Twin Snakes, and then play MGS2. : Modica Sol Solis
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      That doesn't really make sense from a gameplay perspective though. Sure, it makes sense in terms of chron... : Vincent Grayson
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        It builds on gameplay concepts, but I think that's less important than seeing the storyline quirks that a... : Modica Sol Solis
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          I dunno, MGS3 references some things that are somewhat major developments in MGS1/2 (namely the Patriots, : Vincent Grayson
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            Kinda like watching Episode 1-2-3 of Star Wars before watching 4-5-6. : razlebol
            • missing "first" after 4-5-6... : razlebol
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    I am doing this. But I started with MGS3, then played MG and MG2 off the MGS3:Persistence disc and am ... : cornchak
    • Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake is a fucking fantastic game. I was amazed at how many things were in it that... : DOOManiac
• I think the only very long one is after you have finished the game. At least, that is what Eurogamer says : razlebol
• I love it, more people should do long cutscenes. : gmd
• so far doesn't seem to be hampering review scores now does it? I don't think it's an issue. : dilutedq
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  Kojima is one of like 3 true auteurs left in big budget gaming IMO. I'm glad he doesn't compromise his v... : Boxelder
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    brb - washing the pretense off. : seven
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      Take your time. : Boxelder
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        I scrubbed and I scrubbed - but they just don't make water hot enough :~( : seven
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          you can't wash away THE TRUTH : Boxelder
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            hahah - you're my favourite shacker for the day now :) : seven
            • I was waiting for this exchange to go nuclear, but it turned out to be funny instead. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Here's a beret and some expensive coffee. : Fred Garvin
    • I prefer Cognac and clove cigarettes. : Boxelder
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  I hope there are 90 min cut-scenes. Not because I want to watch 90 minutes of boring/incomprehensible ... : nudel
  • Taking a dump on the Shack editors is the new sport around here, doncha know? : Fred Garvin
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  Last I knew, it was pretty much confirmed that there *are* long cutscenes, but that aside from the ending... : Vincent Grayson
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    I wouldn't mind if they had the option to break it up or have one large install. I personally don't mind ... : uglysad
    • Agreed. I'd prefer to just let it install while I do something else and never have to think about it agai... : Vincent Grayson
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  we finally get a "submit news" button, and you completely fail to use it. o_O : biskits
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    because I stole it from Evilavatar. : deathofrats
    • News from other sources still qualifies as news. Notice how many stories in the paper are from AP, Reute... : Lone Swordsman
    • There have been days where 90% or more of the news on the Shack was essentially repeats of stuff reported... : Xevo
• I love the MGS series but even I think any cutscene longer than five minutes unless it's the ending is to... : TwiLyght
• I hope you can pause or resume those cut scenes later. Having to watch it all in 90 min uninterrupted mi... : pigvomit
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  i thought evil avatar had died a couple of years ago : doomed
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    Unfortunately it's still around. : Fred Garvin
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      It's not all that bad. It's heck of a lot better than bluesnews or any other game site (other than shack... : deathofrats
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        The guy that owns the site is a prick. He had the balls to bad mouth a game I worked on and then email me... : Fred Garvin
        • Apparently you don't know the history of EA... : ghost in my shell
• eh, developers make similar games, people hate them, developers try something new, people hate them : Chandler55
• Honestly, I've been playing this series since NES and I ain't stopping now. Not like bad shack reviews o... : Edges

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  The Intel Classic starts in less then 3 hours (2am PST). This is the second batch of 32 round fights (se : xylothan
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    awesome. Yay for SK being in almost the same timezone as me... I can actually watch this stuff at a reaso... : aeg1x
    • Yes watching it live is nice because the VODs they post aren't as good quality and you get to see the cra... : xylothan
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    Argh, they're looping a 15 second promo over and over and over now and I don't know how long I can take i... : Zero|DPX
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      Ahaha yeah it will change about a hour before start time. They'll start doing cam checks and stuff. L... : xylothan
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        This promo is killing me here. : TreMetal
        • STARCRAFT UNIVERSE : TreMetal
        • Yay they are doing setup now. : xylothan
  • Wohoo, good thing I couldn't sleep, I would have missed this otherwise. I want an RSS feed for these engl... : razorblade79
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    Why are they using such noob CRTs? : FPSDavid
    • Ghosting maybe? When they get up to like 500 apms it might be an issue. I dunno. : xylothan
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      Starcraft is 640x480. Kind of pointless to have a 24" LCD or what have you. : TreMetal
      • Agreed. Starcraft looks ghastly on a LCD. : JarEme
    • If you don't have to move it around, a properly calibrated CRT is better than an LCD. : Zero|DPX
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  BTW, for anyone who doesn't know, there's a TON of previous matches for these online at the GomTV site, w... : Zero|DPX
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    Also I love that they use music from awesome bands like Nightwish as background music sometimes :D : Zero|DPX
    • If you want to know what music they are using for these leagues, check out http://proscenemusic.4shared.c... : xylothan
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  Well, it looks like it is booting up. Though right now it is just a shot of the announcer's table with n... : TreMetal
  • Heh, I like the background music levels bouncing up and down as they figure things out. : Zero|DPX
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  Is this a live game or they just messing around to setup the cameras and what not? : TreMetal
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    They are just setting up. Note technically you're not supposed to be seeing this. This don't go live ... : xylothan
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      Yay for Tastelss' mic checking : Zero|DPX
      • No pimples on the upper lip this week i guess. =) : xylothan
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      How are we seeing this if we're not supposed to? Why not just not start broadcasting once the matches are... : FPSDavid
      • They need to test the stream too :) : Zero|DPX
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        That's what they do. Go to http://gomtv.net/ and you'll see the "watch live" button is greyed out. : xylothan
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          Also it's good to get in early because when it goes lives it's fucking impossible to get a stream right o... : xylothan
          • sweet : FPSDavid
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  AW SHIT the feed just dropped!!!!!!111111one : FPSDavid
  • Yep they reset it every week when they are done on setup. It should be back in about a minute or so. : xylothan
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  Um. All I'm getting are weird music videos. What is going on here? : Moonbase Commander
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    this is what professional starcraft looks like : aeg1x
    • So this is what happens with you APM goes over nine thousand. Hold me. : Moonbase Commander
  • You've never seen what a full on zerg assault looks like have you? : xylothan
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    Ok, seriously. If I see this Goddamn pilot...captain...pedostache-wielding guy again, I'm going to snap. : Moonbase Commander
    • Ahaha if you think that is bad wait until you see the Titty Sambo commercial and the blond haired guy. ... : xylothan
    • Damnit it's starting, I only got to watch two terribly awesome music videos! : Xevo
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  It's starting! : xylothan
  • Thank God. I think a certain video was about to loop again. First time watching something like this, ... : Moonbase Commander
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    First match should be pure rape. Jaedong is ranked #1 and Azang has like been in the league for two mont... : xylothan
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      Man you seriously follow this, you said that just before the announcer did, heh. : Xevo
      • No I'm just a casual watcher. It's just amazing to watch honestly.. it just boggles my mind how fast th... : xylothan
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  fucking buffering : aeg1x
  • R e a l M e d i a ' d : xylothan
• If I was there I would so be holding a giant D and fence. No silly pictures! : DarkWolf5
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  How long does a typical match last? : FPSDavid
  • Totally depends. I've seen 3 min games up to 15-20 min games. : xylothan
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  Oh rape : xylothan
  • Yes as brutal as was predicted, big risks big rewards I guess, although he did not get lucky this time. : Xevo
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    I know basically nothing about StarCraft anymore but just based on what the commentator is saying, why di... : Moonbase Commander
    • Like I said, I think he thought the very low chance his strat would work was his only real chance, since ... : Xevo
    • As far as I can tell he was hoping that he would surprise Jaedong by going with an unexpected tech patter... : xylothan
  • I'm surprised that Azang hasn't given up yet. Is he waiting for a full building-destruction loss, or some... : Felraiser
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  Why has this not GGed yet, the game is over : Zero|DPX
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    OK, finally : Zero|DPX
    • I think he just wanted to try and do something so it didn't look like it was total ownage. : xylothan
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  Damn, that was fast, althought I didn't really understand how it went down so quick like that. : FPSDavid
  • I've lost faster. I suck so much at starcraft. : DarkWolf5
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  Is it my connection or is the stream lagging? :( Good job at explaining stuff by Tasteless btw! : razorblade79
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    It's not lagging for me. : xylothan
    • Working for me as well. : Xevo
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    I get buffering every minute or so. : Zero|DPX
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      Make that every 15 seconds. : Zero|DPX
      • I got some nasty buffering too after the upset, people must be tuning in now that it got close. : Xevo
      • Yeah it got worse... I don't even know if the 2nd match ended already -.- Just seeing crappy commercials ... : razorblade79
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  Damn nice marine micro there. : Xevo
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    Although, as Tastless pointed out, it may be just that he is fighting an early war of attrition to have a... : Xevo
    • Holy fucking shit! : Xevo
    • Nope! : DarkWolf5
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  Ok, that was epic. : Moonbase Commander
  • Haha, I have goosebumps. That was totally unexpected. : TreMetal
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  NICE : Zero|DPX
  • Also nice use of an Edguy song afterwards! That progamer music site doesn't have 1/10th of the songs t... : Zero|DPX
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  Damn, that was a good 2nd match. I want to see some Ghosts though. : FPSDavid
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    You will never see ghosts in competitive play. : TreMetal
    • Or (from what I've seen) Valkyries, Scouts, Devourers, Queens, or Dark Archons. Well, OK, I've seen ea... : Zero|DPX
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    Almost never see ghosts really. : xylothan
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      I want a nuclear strike detected :( : FPSDavid
      • Games never last long enough, sadly... It would have to be a weird map for that to really be effective, ... : Xevo
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  I cant get 10 seconds of unbuffered video, this shit is ridiculous. : aeg1x
  • I have only buffered 2 or 3 times.. that is a bummer. : TreMetal
• LMAO their commercials rock I want to run out and buy this computer. : DarkWolf5
• Is that commentator the guy who called the Blizzcon games? : Ellissd
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  What the hell is all this macro micro stuff they're talking about????? : FPSDavid
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    I think it's building expansions, managing your economy (macro) vs moving your units around (micro) : razorblade79
    • Right, basically micro is your individual fine-control of units, vs macro which is the overall build and ... : Xevo
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    Macro is basically managing your resource flow and your build order to get as many of the right unit as p... : Zero|DPX
    • Got it. : FPSDavid
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  Is the guy who won, the same as the guy who lost in the first match? If so how many matches do they play? : DarkWolf5
  • Each 1v1 is a best-of-3. : Zero|DPX
• OMG rush, my stream is gonna die any moment : razorblade79
• Amazing how fast the strategies in the guys has shifted from the super-aggro build of Jaedong in the firs... : Xevo
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  Is this another OHSHI- strat going down? : Moonbase Commander
  • This would be basically old-school Terran marine rush, that was just barely thwarted by a lucky done spot... : Xevo
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    Hahahah holy shit did he see the hidden hatch? : xylothan
    • Looks like no, and experience definitely won out in the end. : Xevo
• This is really really cool. : DarkWolf5
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  This match is already over, Jaedong has it won due to that lucky spot. : Zero|DPX
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    Ahaha hear comes the big fuck you : xylothan
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      There was no way to bring his economy back from such a completely all-in move. It would have worked, had... : Zero|DPX
      • Definitely true, and it's decisions like shooting the expansion hatchery that a more experienced player w... : Xevo
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  Nice, almost lost then he won : FPSDavid
  • His scouting saved him and then the hidden hatch was basically the deal seal there. Awesome game. : xylothan
• Azang definitely deserves respect for playing it all pretty balls-out and not doing anything standard. J... : Xevo
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  Dude I want that PC if it comes with those guys : Zero|DPX
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    The last scene in that ad is really full of lols : razorblade79
    • I need GOM TV! : xylothan
• Ugh that mono commercial was painful to listen to, nice to know that even Korean TV has advertisers who a... : Xevo
• Wait, an avocado-shrimp burger? That might just work... : Moonbase Commander
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  What the fuck kind of intermission is this? Now 9/11 footage? Are they just getting the news, 7 years l... : Xevo
  • yeah, wtf was that about? : jujubees
• hey it's the asian paris hilton. : DarkWolf5
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  I have no idea what's going with all the tactics speak, but I love the Terran music! : Grimp
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    Keep watching for dozens of matches and you might start to get it. Although I still don't completely :) : Zero|DPX
    • Yeah likewise, I also don't really get a good grasp on many of the strats until I see what units they're ... : Xevo
    • Well, I understand what happens, but I have no idea what the different build trees are. :( : Grimp
• ...and there goes my connection. Damnit. : Moonbase Commander
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    Damn nasty Recall. : Xevo
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      Yeah, very nice storms. : Zero|DPX
      • So many zealots.. : xylothan
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        Wow, x2. : Zero|DPX
        • Aaha number 3 : xylothan
        • Make that 3 lol! : Xevo
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      He's just not reacting to the strat. No defensive tanks or turrets near the economy... easy to just repea... : Felraiser
      • No kidding, I figured he would've kept some tanks back or at least a turret after the last recall. : Xevo
• Wow 4hp left on the Nexus... way close. : Xevo
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  man so many gateways. That building spamming aspect is something I really dislike in RTS games... and why... : aeg1x
  • It's definitely a very different style of play, to be sure... however I always like the Tetris-like aspec... : Xevo
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  What'd the last guy do to win? : FPSDavid
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    Trashed Terran's economy twice and then nuked his upgrades twice. : xylothan
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      Yeah, but what was the winning/losing move? Like he didn't destroy the terran base or anything... : FPSDavid
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        Pro games never go until "the bitter end". The loser taps out when it's clear he can't win. In this cas... : Zero|DPX
        • Ahhh right, I forget that people are used to seeing the entire other guy's stuff destroyed. : Xevo
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          Oh, so Skyhigh surrendered? : FPSDavid
          • Yes, he wrote gg and left the game. : Zero|DPX
      • He didn't need to destroy everything, he got rid of only the stuff that would make him lose the race, nam... : Xevo
  • Outbuilt the other dude, had more money, better units, and never had his core strategy of back line disru... : Xevo
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    Honestly, seems more like his opponent lost it than that he won it. It seems very possible to defend agai... : Felraiser
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      An example of Jangbi failing with the strat, though against a much higher-ranked player: http://youtube.c... : Felraiser
      • I'll definitely watch this during the next break! : Xevo
• Jangbi is gettting laid tonight. : DarkWolf5
• As you can see, its predominantly female down here, thats why Starcraft is so baller... : FPSDavid
• Nice drop and micro : xylothan
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  Wow, I cannot believe that reaver held up for so long. : Zero|DPX
  • Yeah this is just brilliant Protoss micro all around. : Xevo
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  How is the announcer for this? Quality stuff or what? : Grimp
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    Tasteless is a pretty decent announcer. I happen to like Artosis a little better but both definitely kno... : Zero|DPX
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      Okay, cool. Since I don't know what's going on, I have to choose to trust the knowledge of the announcer... : Grimp
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        Anyone announcing these things has generally spent 5+ years playing at a very high level. The Korean ann... : Zero|DPX
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          This is my first time watching any live Starcraft tourney thing. I've seen some FPS ones and some not so... : Grimp
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            The only Starcraft tourneys that get casted are the Korean matches, which are very professionally produce... : Zero|DPX
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              Yeah, I'll probably watch more if they're produced like this one. : Grimp
              • Watch the back episodes of this tourney (dozens) at http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/ , the back episodes... : Zero|DPX
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  WOW reaver drop owns the scvs : xylothan
  • Hmm.. Jangbi just throw away so many units there.. : xylothan
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  Curse the buffering I'm getting every 5 seconds :( : Zero|DPX
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    Try reconnecting. I'm not having any buffering issues. : xylothan
    • Helped a little it seems. Still lagging but no more 10-15 seconds buffering... : razorblade79
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  Whoa, new announcers. : FPSDavid
  • Yep they swithch out and each set casts 2 match ups. : xylothan
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  Daym. I didn't realize Starcraft still has so much fan support. I can't wait til number 2. Ok I can wait ... : Charmplus
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    I wish they were doing World of Starcraft. : FPSDavid
    • I would hate to give up on my social life : razorblade79
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  ?why did he lift the barracks?! : Zero|DPX
  • It looked like he thought he had an ambush or something, but I don't know it seemed really stupid, he put... : Xevo
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  How is Hwasin not yet dead what with getting owned so hard? : Zero|DPX
  • Just some amazing microing, but I don't think he has the resources to pull out a win. : Xevo
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    OK, now he is. Well, I need to sleep, it's 4:30 AM. I guess I'll catch the other matches as VODs. : Zero|DPX
    • Good chatting it up with ya, cya! : Xevo
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  red has this in the bag : Charmplus
  • seems like he lost motivation or something... ah just gg'd. Too bad, would have loved to see some Battlec... : razorblade79
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  Are nydus canals used in competitive play? : Grimp
  • I've seen them used sometimes. : razlebol
• Some really nice games! Thanks for posting! :) : razorblade79

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  My main's a Hunter and getting RSI from spamming my steady shot macro and maybe popping the odd trinket i... : node
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    I love my rogue. I've tried almost every other class and I don't think they are as fun. I like exploring ... : ZombieAcademy
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      sinister strike, sinister strike, sinister strike, eviscerate gets old too : GloriousCow
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        Cheap Shot, Backstab, Backstap, Gouge, Backstab, MAYBE Backstab is all sorts of fun. But the best part... : Modica Sol Solis
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          modica sol solis you haven't even gotten a character to level 70 i don't think you can comment on the act... : JINKY
          • I can certainly comment on what's fun when it comes to levelling to 70. I have gotten every class to 45 a... : Modica Sol Solis
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        sorry, but that's a noob's rotation :) : dromo5
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          i know how to stunlock too, thanks. Just pointing out that in prolonged raid battles every class can get ... : GloriousCow
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            i wasn't talking about stunlock and i was only joking anyway. i was referring to the fact that eviscerat... : dromo5
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              i am so glad there was a hemo rogue in that kil'jaeden video, so now i can tell everyone who insists you ... : GloriousCow
              • fo reals, fuck combat : Modica Sol Solis
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                hemo only recently got buffed but it is indeed badass now. the thing is, the hemo rogue independently do... : dromo5
                • I watched a video of a rogue on Kil'Jaeden, and he was hitting critting Hemos for upward of 2500. I think... : FlatlineDixay
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                  actually the hemo buff doesn't make up for the difference at all, combat swords is still the best dps spe... : JINKY
                  • but it does show you can do anything in the game without being forced to play a specific build : GloriousCow
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                    well, i may have been slightly overstating the case but it's not as though the spec isn't viable in lots ... : dromo5
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                      btw, when i say viable, what i mean to do is contrast hemo with other specs that are not viable in end ga... : dromo5
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                        not viable or just not ideal? : GloriousCow
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                          well it depends on a few things. but you have to first accept that the only thing a rogue brings to a ra... : dromo5
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                            a rogue can sap :( : GloriousCow
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                              sadly most mobs cannot be sapped but the major difference is that you can't sap a mob that's in combat. ... : dromo5
                              • I still haven't seen most TBC raids, but one situational benefit rogues provide is Kick for interrupts. : Sarcastro
  • I love playing Rogues. It's engaging, and there are so many different but effective ways of fighting. : Altanar
  • Do what I do, bind it to the mouse wheel :) For added fun use one of those mice that continue spinning th... : yemeth
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    another vote for rogue. it's the only class that ever kept me interested long enough to reach 70. i'm c... : dromo5
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      Switching talent trees on Rogue also has, IMO, a much larger effect than with the other classes. Allows y... : Modica Sol Solis
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        yeah totally. the rogue i leveled up with is nothing like the rogue i have now. the differences between... : dromo5
        • fuuuck, makin me want to play... : Modica Sol Solis
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        You mean other DPS classes right? Tanking/Healing/DPS Hybrids strike me as more diverse. : Sarcastro
        • I think a Combat Rogue versus a Subtlety or Assassination Rogue is as large a change as a Feral Druid is ... : Modica Sol Solis
  • I have a 70 Holy Priest, 70 Fury Warrior, and a 63 BM Hunter. Playing PvP with the Hunter is the most fun... : das_runt
  • Definitely Druid. If you ever get bored you just respec instead of reroll. : johnny rotten
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  warlock and rogue. : mwasher
  • I'd have to agree with this as well. They both have many varied styles of kicking ass that are fun and re... : Psigun
• enhancement shaman: awesome fun in pve. totems, wf, heals, ranged dps, bloodlust, reincarnate. we have it... : theWhite
• I've played most classes to 70 and the funnest one was the rogue. The second best was a druid, followed ... : jingletard
• Druid. : TPSReport
• It depends on what you're doing. I'd say that leveling a mage is the most fun, but they can be boring a ... : Grumbeld
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  I've played every class in that game to exhaustion, never making it to cap because I get bored, and I'll ... : Modica Sol Solis
  • also fuck this thread, WoW's the only game that runs on my laptop and now i wanna play it again you fucks : Modica Sol Solis
• i love my prot pally but my mage is so boring it makes me fall asleep. YES OK THE COOLDOWN IS OVER I'LL ... : electroly
• I'm all nostalgic for my Troll Prot-Warrior. : Kaerof
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  Fuck. This. Thread. Okay, so where do most of you play? Most times I try and play, I get bored because... : Modica Sol Solis
  • Anyone? : Modica Sol Solis
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    there are still tons of shackers playing wow, but not in a really central location. GCR on mal ganis prob... : maulla
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      lame. all my friends quit. no one to play with then, fuck that. : Modica Sol Solis
      • Could try the Penny Arcade guilds on Dark Iron if you're a fan of PA. I played there for a couple years a... : Psigun
  • I use to play on tichondrius. : skitzo
• wow thread spotted linking my rogue (the best character in all wow) http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/cha... : JINKY
• I'm big fan of my Holy Pally, but that takes a special kind of retard. : .sticks.
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  You probably need to acknowledge that raiding is boring for most characters; the only job that seems to r... : FlatlineDixay
  • There is no secret... : .sticks.
• Any class can be the most interesting to play depending on what you like. I rolled a rogue at launch and... : Sapiens
• druid: stealth, cast, and tank : unsound
• I like Hunter for single player action and Warlock for either single player or grouped. : justsayno
• demonologist in AoC : bfzzzz
• I have played a warrior since beta. I've never been Protection spec, because I'm not fond of tanking, ... : fleabug
• Tanking is more fun than it sounds I had a 70 mage, and a Warrior up to 60 or so. Plus a few low leve... : SqueegyTBS
• i liked hunter, for some reason, but mage was awesometastic too : RikiTiki2
• I'd have to say either Warlock or Feral Druid. Both are classes that require a lot of changing what you ... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  I like hunter the best, getting the perfect shot rotation takes a decent amount of skill and timing (I of... : Nali4Freedom
  • I too spin my mousewheel macro for victory. : ghost in my shell
• The attraction of a druid tank (such as mine, The People's Bear Jadaxmewmew) is that the things which mak... : Entity
• I really liked playing my priest and found most other classes that I tried to start pretty boring. The o... : skizl
• I have 70 rogue, 50 warrior and 50 lock. All of them have been a blast, and if they were all 70 my gea... : dysfunctional
• *** Thread Hijack *** So obviously we have a lot of WoW players here. Anyone play Horde on Bonechew... : dysfunctional