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  One of the reviewers came out and said it was pretty much bullshit and that none of the cutscenes go for ... : aeg1x
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    Which one? Because several of the European print magazines have come out and said that not only are ther... : deathofrats
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      Why would you have multiple installs? : SiW73
      • Because your initial install would be embarrassingly huge and you want to try to break it up? : stratedge
      • I think they break up the big install by doing it in pieces, like during a cutscene or whatever. : OmegaRed59
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  I still am amazed people care about the length of the cut scenes. it is an MGS game, the cut scenes are h... : Evil Benius
  • I heard gears of war has COVER! you can just HIDE FROM BULLETS! wtf?! : 60days
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    Yes, Metal Gear Solid has had long cut scenes, but most of them have been less than 20 minutes long. I r... : Grumbeld
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      Sit down and play the game without a hard cap on your end time so you would not have to quit in the middl... : Evil Benius
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        Sit down and play the game without a hard cap on your end time That doesn't work when you're talking a... : Arcanum
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          I really do not think there is anything wrong with that for one game. If you have an hour left to play an... : Evil Benius
          • A 45 minute boss battle might be fun. A 45 (or 90) minute cutscene in a MGS game will be pure hell. It'll... : NastyJack
          • A 45 minute boss battle would probably be a giant pain in the ass. It would probably also be pretty bori... : Arcanum
          • how can you predict when you're coming up on an absurdly long, no one else would make it this long, cutsc... : derelict515
  • I've always loved Final Fantasy and the massive cinematics were integral to that. It helped it feel m... : Ebu
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    It's supposed to be a game. One that I want to play. If I'm watching a 90 minute cutscene, I'm not long... : Arcanum
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      It's supposed to be whatever the fuck Kojima Productions wants it to be. There are plenty of people out ... : Frank_Mackey
      • ^^ A lot of people enjoy this type of game or else there wouldn't be at number 4 and that's not counting ... : razlebol
      • Funny that. I see people complaining about games they have never played or have no intention of playing a... : Fred Garvin
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    I flat out refuse to sit and watch a cutscene longer than 5 minutes that has the quality of writing that ... : NastyJack
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      Then the game is not for you, tons of people DO want this. : Evil Benius
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        Even people I know who love the MGS games were annoyed as hell with the cutscenes. And now this game take... : NastyJack
        • I love cut scenes in games and enjoyed the ones in the MGS games. : Evil Benius
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          well the people you know are in the vast minority, most people loved the cutscenes. : klearlyunseen
          • I can't say I enjoy them, I like MGS, but it's a little over the top. : devi| dog
    • if you think the quality of writing is lame then why care about skipping the storyline : Chandler55
  • People are just piling on. It's mob mentality. I don't even think people think too much, they're just out... : Shai-Tan
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  better hope the save points are after those cinematics. : erotic sock
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    In my opinion any cutscene over 20 seconds in length should have pause, rewind and skip functions as well... : marmite
    • That'd be a great idea. Including the first time you watch it. : ConfusedUs
    • Unfortunately no rewind, but you CAN pause and skip cutscenes in MGS 4. : sevogajre
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      It's pretty much impossible to have rewind on in-game cutscenes. : ZombieAcademy
      • nothing is impossible - adidas : Chandler55
  • MGS has always let you save at any time. : Evil Benius
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    there had better be checkpoints during the cinematic in case you ragequit. : Klebold
    • I hear there's a cutscene in the quit sequence. : SiW73
• Sounds like MGS2 all over again. No thanks. : Begawkiness
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  Subthread: As someone who's never played any of the series, is it worth starting at MGS1 and playing thro... : AMikaboshi
  • Ive never played them either... I don't plan on playing them before MGS4 if this 90 minute cutscene bu... : MagicWishMonkey
  • I would recommend it. I feel the games get better as they progress and it is fun to see the changes and d... : Evil Benius
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    MGS1 is one of the best games ever made, and MGS3 is right there with it. MGS2 was the most ridiculous s... : fry975
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      MGS2 is worth playing even with the crazy story. The gameplay is still amazing and the story ain't that b... : razlebol
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        I really don't get this at all. Okay, I'm a Metal Gear fanboy, but is MGS2 *really* that confusing to pe : SiW73
        • I enjoyed the story myself. I just didn't understand the ending and I still don't understand it. : razlebol
        • I played MGS2 before MGS1 and I enjoyed both games. MGS2's plot does get ridiculous towards the end but i... : nudel
        • I think the problem with MGS2 it didn't come out and explain that you just infected a highly advanced AI ... : ghost in my shell
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        i still have no idea what MGS 2 was about. That story was frustrating to try and figure out. : burning eye
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          It was a recreation of the events of MGS1 to be used as a simulation to see if it was possible to control : Evil Benius
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            so basically it was Mario 2 :) : burning eye
            • Yeah, but every time you choose Mario, they make you play as toad and the Princess interrupts your game e... : cornchak
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    I would start with MGS3, and then play Twin Snakes, and then play MGS2. : Modica Sol Solis
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      That doesn't really make sense from a gameplay perspective though. Sure, it makes sense in terms of chron... : Vincent Grayson
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        It builds on gameplay concepts, but I think that's less important than seeing the storyline quirks that a... : Modica Sol Solis
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          I dunno, MGS3 references some things that are somewhat major developments in MGS1/2 (namely the Patriots, : Vincent Grayson
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            Kinda like watching Episode 1-2-3 of Star Wars before watching 4-5-6. : razlebol
            • missing "first" after 4-5-6... : razlebol
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    I am doing this. But I started with MGS3, then played MG and MG2 off the MGS3:Persistence disc and am ... : cornchak
    • Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake is a fucking fantastic game. I was amazed at how many things were in it that... : DOOManiac
• I think the only very long one is after you have finished the game. At least, that is what Eurogamer says : razlebol
• I love it, more people should do long cutscenes. : gmd
• so far doesn't seem to be hampering review scores now does it? I don't think it's an issue. : dilutedq
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  Kojima is one of like 3 true auteurs left in big budget gaming IMO. I'm glad he doesn't compromise his v... : Boxelder
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    brb - washing the pretense off. : seven
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      Take your time. : Boxelder
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        I scrubbed and I scrubbed - but they just don't make water hot enough :~( : seven
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          you can't wash away THE TRUTH : Boxelder
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            hahah - you're my favourite shacker for the day now :)

            May 31, 2008 11:09am PDT
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            hahah - you're my favourite shacker for the day now :) : seven
            • I was waiting for this exchange to go nuclear, but it turned out to be funny instead. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Here's a beret and some expensive coffee. : Fred Garvin
    • I prefer Cognac and clove cigarettes. : Boxelder
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  I hope there are 90 min cut-scenes. Not because I want to watch 90 minutes of boring/incomprehensible ... : nudel
  • Taking a dump on the Shack editors is the new sport around here, doncha know? : Fred Garvin
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  Last I knew, it was pretty much confirmed that there *are* long cutscenes, but that aside from the ending... : Vincent Grayson
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    I wouldn't mind if they had the option to break it up or have one large install. I personally don't mind ... : uglysad
    • Agreed. I'd prefer to just let it install while I do something else and never have to think about it agai... : Vincent Grayson
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  we finally get a "submit news" button, and you completely fail to use it. o_O : biskits
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    because I stole it from Evilavatar. : deathofrats
    • News from other sources still qualifies as news. Notice how many stories in the paper are from AP, Reute... : Lone Swordsman
    • There have been days where 90% or more of the news on the Shack was essentially repeats of stuff reported... : Xevo
• I love the MGS series but even I think any cutscene longer than five minutes unless it's the ending is to... : TwiLyght
• I hope you can pause or resume those cut scenes later. Having to watch it all in 90 min uninterrupted mi... : pigvomit
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  i thought evil avatar had died a couple of years ago : doomed
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    Unfortunately it's still around. : Fred Garvin
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      It's not all that bad. It's heck of a lot better than bluesnews or any other game site (other than shack... : deathofrats
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        The guy that owns the site is a prick. He had the balls to bad mouth a game I worked on and then email me... : Fred Garvin
        • Apparently you don't know the history of EA... : ghost in my shell
• eh, developers make similar games, people hate them, developers try something new, people hate them : Chandler55
• Honestly, I've been playing this series since NES and I ain't stopping now. Not like bad shack reviews o... : Edges