EA: Keep Comparing Battlefield Heroes to TF2

"It's an honor to be compared to a great game like Team Fortress 2, and I think the art style in TF2 is awesome."

No shit sherlock, you copycat bastard. Anyone would love to be compared to the original when they create a clone or fake. EA's BH reminds me of all the shit Street Fighter clones that came out after SF became popular. I bet they all liked the art direction of the SF series, and would love to be compared to SF.

As someone who loves both Battlefield 2 and TF2... I am not looking forward to this game. Why? Two reasons.

1: They're not charging money for the game. That in itself will attract the lowest common denominator towards the game. I played a lot of GunZ and WarRock. Utterly horrible teammates in both games. How do you think this will effect tactics and strategy in Battlefield Heroes?

2: No learning curve. Now I have NO problem with a game having simple game mechanics... But the complexity is what made BF2 so enjoyable. You get killed a lot when you first start playing, but then you start to get better. There really is nothing like the feeling you get when you make 96 points in one round, and receive the Gold Star.

Also, if you're going to have the ability to get better weapons... It's a lot more enjoyable when the better and more experienced players get access to said weapons, rather than the kids who have their daddy's credit card.

It's free so you can do and say whatever you want. I'll stil play it ^^

Am I the only person who doesn't see ANY similarities between TF2 and BH? Seriously, it's just some damn cell shading.

OK guys, this is getting ridiculous. You know what this is like? Its like saying that every ultra-realistic 3D shooter out there looks the same. "Oh my god, Unreal Tournament III copied off of Ghost Recon AW 2! Look, both games feature fully 3D models and extremely detailed environments! Whatever shall we do?" Gimme a break. You people have to seriously lighten up. When a new graphic design technique comes out (and works well) of course you're going to see that technique used in a slew of other games that attempt to experience the same success as the original, as well as games that attempt to be better (or completely different) than the original. But that is NOT a bad thing. Give developers a chance for once and base your opinions not only on how it looks, but how it plays. Don't tell me UT3 copied GoW just because they used the same engine.

Let's count the number of cel-shaded first person shooters in existence. I'll start:

XIII

Sure.. honoured.

I believe, they started the development after TF2 was released. Because than we got the first concept drawing and later some screens (very early in development imho).
I still state that EA wants it's own TF2.

I have to say the trailer was hilarious though (swearing 12yr olds that play the game for 8 hours etc etc.. fantastic, because that's actually the public that will play that game. 12 yr olds!)

There's a lot of debate going on about BF:Heroes copying TF2's style (and even some people saying TF2 copying other styles, such as PIXAR). But there's a fundamental fact people don't seem to be remembering: Valve took an extremely scientific approach to the style in order to create easily-distinguishable classes.

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=48454
This video highlights the process and justifications for the decisions they made. The style plays both an aesthetic and game-play role in distinguishing classes and providing relevant info to the player. Secondly, it's not just the style of TF2 that made it charming, but also the fact that they created characters from the classes, evident in the "Meet the ______ " videos. Finally, many games still opt for purely photorealistic or non-photorealistic effects. TF2's style s an interesting blend of photo and non-photo realistic elements that pretty unique.

If you look at BF:Heroes, you see no distinguishing styles between characters. The style is solely aesthetic. The developers weren't concerned as much with portraying subtle cues visually as much as creating an all-encompassing light-hearted impression with the game. There's pretty little doubt that they were at least somewhat inspired by TF2, but they aren't copying the style so much as copying the idea to blend photorealistic and non-photorealistic elements.

The comparison to PIXAR, or more importantly The Incredibles, is silly. The characters in the Incredibles are more highly stylized, less anatomically correct than TF2. Just because the heavy has a big chin like Mr. Incredible does not mean they were copied. Chins are typically one of the most exaggerated features in a caricature, and typically implies power and dominance. Saying Valve copied PIXAR solely based on that feature, and frankly there are few if any other similarities, is silly.

Greater similarity than leyendecker/tf2 design would be this:

http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=9774&game_id=4948&id=118856

http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=9774&game_id=4948

http://images.google.de/images?q=village+people&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&hs=o34&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title

nobody really faults the developers

its the suits behind it that irk us, its the fact that they would have shot down any project with non photorealistic render like TF2's before TF2 came out, thats what pisses people of about this and EA in general

Remember back when there was a huge uproar that valve was just copying The Incredibles art style? No? Me neither.

I was never interested in TF, forget TF2. When BF2 was released, I gave it a try, it was fun, but then ignored it as well. But NOW, I am more than willing to gove BF: Heroes a try over TF2 because it feels like it has something new to offer for a change (instead of just being another FPS with new looks).

Plus it's free. :P

J. C. Leyendecker's work is amazing. <3 him and his influence on illustration.

1942 had some of the most wacky and fun gameplay you could have. I'm glad they are keeping that rather than watering the game down and making everything boring.

An article on shacknews about an article on shacknews...

Nice work ?

Im just glad that Codename: Eagle is back.

Im just glad that Codename: Eagle is back.

This article seems wack btw.

Although some people may say the art is similar, I don't see how that effects the actual gameplay.

So what if they look similar. It's not like they're going to play the same.

Obviously TF2 was very successful and fun...

In most cases, this is when stuff gets copycatted. Oh, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that.

How bout a variety of games that are successful and fun? It is going to be FREE so we shouldn't even be ARGUING.

I can't even COUNT how many games I THOROUGHLY enjoyed that copied something else. The game they 'copied' was fun, so why not?

Also, it has vehicles and it is free... OMG THEY COPIED THE ART STYLE... yeah? The art style is highly appreciated by lots of people and lots of people love it.. what is the problem here?

I wish people would stop comparing these two very different games. The characters in BF:H are customizable paper dolls worth forgetting. Each character in TF:2 has its own art style, personality and animation.

I'm definitely giving this a chance. It looks like fun. I just hope the microtransactions aren't too important.

I don't know if anyone else noticed this until now but the two games do bear a striking resemblance to each other