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  360 if you want to scream out in pain when it RROD's after four hours of play. : walker270
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    Actually from the looks of things everyone's 360 is crapping out days before the release, nevermind durin... : avatar_58
    • The 360 is afraid!! It knows!! SKYNET IS AMONG US ALREADY! : dedgecko
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      Supporting links? : Sylvanus
      • www.shacknews.com ;) : avatar_58
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      360 : ant_hillbilly
      • failure. : ant_hillbilly
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    so torn, PS3 is quiet and will not RROD. 360 has achievements and XBL. : phokz
    • That's my problem. I'm stuck between the two also. Don't forget the DLC for 360 and more people on line. ... : moses55
  • And people say I exaggerate when I say this kind of shit gets posted in every 360 thread and walker270 is... : Fred Garvin
• 360 : mattfl
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  X360 - DLC = win : -sk-
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    "-" ? "+" ftw i think : dedgecko
    • I answered to question first, then added that DLC is awesome. But yea, XO + DLC is pretty much correct t... : -sk-
• Sorry moses55. : Sylvanus
• I'm waiting for reviews. : pyrogen
• 360 because the multiplayer is going to kick all kinds of ass, and of course the 360 is the best way to p... : FormerHPB
• PS3 : mojothemagician
• 360 : Fyunch Click
• PStriple. : baronzemo78
• PS3 : Omaha
• 360 : NodTerrorist
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  PS3 mostly because I try to avoid the drive and fan noise of the 360 whenever possible. : cetra00
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    Is this really a reason? : DooBall
    • I'm also guessing it has to do with something red and circular in nature. : Totenjaeger
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      Yes it annoys me to hell. Not all of us have the option to turn up the game sound to drown out the horre... : cetra00
      • do you live in a nursing home : electroly
• PS# : Totenjaeger
• About three-fiddy : Lethal01
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  again? : razlebol
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16565301#itemanchor_16565301 : razlebol
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      Thank you! I mentioned that it was "somewhere" in the comments over the past few days. : Sylvanus
      • Wow... I even commented in that one. Whoops! I fail. : Sylvanus
• 360 : Mmmmmoo
• x360 : chazums
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  360 for the 100,000,000th time. Are we having these threads every day until release? : Boxelder
  • Yes. Just to piss you off. ;) : Sylvanus
  • yes. we've run out of fresh thread ideas and several people ARE NOT POSTING PICS!!!! : Fyunch Click
• 360. DLC and XBL. : Head Rush
• I already have a 360, and don't have a PS3. Easy decision! : tashtego
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  360 - How quickly everyone forgets the shit the Japanese pulled in WW2, no way in hell am I giving them m... : Porkasaurus
  • If this doesn't convince you to get an X360, nothing will. : Head Rush
  • Can we have this RACIST post Nuked. WTF. Nuked like we did to the Japanese. : ease one
• pc.......... : niceguynick
• 360 : thejm4n
• PC : retardhumper
• 360 I still refuse to buy a PS3 at this point. : mesabo
• 360 because I want to play with people online. : FushigiDenki
• 360. Just pre-ordered it Monday :) : pun][sher
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  PC]b if possible. : Sylvanus
  • friggin pinky. : Sylvanus
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  PC. Why? No DLC gimmick, the potential for modding, smoother framerates (I doubt it's going to be bette... : DrWaffles
  • Has it even been announced for PC? : Fred Garvin
• PC : spazzium

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• PART ONE Originally, I had planned something not too far removed from Everquest and some of the older ... : Modica Sol Solis
• PART TWO However, if the player elected to leave the city as soon as they had their horse, that would ... : Modica Sol Solis
• PART THREE But like I was saying, the first level of Prestige within the city will lead you into your ... : Modica Sol Solis
• RETARDICA SOL MOLISTER OF CHILDREN : mr.sleepy
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  can you just list the stuff that isn't exactly like WoW? your first two parts could be describing any MM... : electroly
  • make that the first three. maybe i missed something but this seems like a generic mmo : electroly
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  PART FOUR, THE LAST PART But you ask, what if I ride out and find nothing after an hour? What a waste ... : Modica Sol Solis
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    with the exception of a few bits and pieces, this is basically World of Warcraft. i think you're missing... : electroly
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      I fail to see how pretty much anything in what I've wrote resembles World of Warcraft. Did you even read ... : Modica Sol Solis
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        I read every word of it. That's why I asked for a list of differences, it's very possible I'm reading th... : electroly
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          Building a reputation for yourself to the point that "quest givers" would come to you with a particular q... : jlavrenz
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            Yeah, WoW is a very "static" world just because of the difficulty of having a progression while still hav... : electroly
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              It also stands to mention that I don't see this as a wtfhuge game like WoW. Maybe several hundred thousan... : Modica Sol Solis
              • Yeah, I think smaller realms would suit this sort of thing a lot better than huge WoW-style realms. : electroly
          • It certainly could be for a guild, I didn't think much into guild reputation. Or even guild implementatio... : Modica Sol Solis
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          Skill based instead of level based. No classes. Progression through PvP, exploration, and PvE. Mounts fro... : Modica Sol Solis
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            Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for :) (WoW has night/day and seasons) : electroly
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              The night and day cycles don't do anything, though. That's what I mean by 'Active' NPCs out and about in ... : Modica Sol Solis
              • Yeah, the only difference is the lighting. WoW NPCs never need to sleep, I guess. : electroly
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                It never snows in San Francisco either. I wouldn't want every single zone in an MMORPG to have the exact ... : OverloadUT
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                  But you guys still have Winter weather, y'know? I just don't want the same static sunny weather in one pl... : Modica Sol Solis
                  • Ah right I get what you mean, and I agree. : OverloadUT
                  • It's kinda weird in WoW when you move from one zone to the next, and even though you've only moved 20 fee... : electroly
• Im interested... : mesabo
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  Addendum I forgot about PvP and the sidenote of playing with the bandits and marauders/being unaligned... : Modica Sol Solis
  • dozens Hundreds : Modica Sol Solis
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    Fully lootable corpses, you die, everything is up for grabs to anybody who gets to your corpse. Monsters... : crockroches
    • While I want the PvP to have lots of consequences, I don't think I want it to have as much as you. Lootab : Modica Sol Solis
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  Much of what you described sounds like a primarily single player style but in a massively multiplayer set... : jlavrenz
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    Quests that primarily encourage players to group due to their sheer difficulty, the world PvP, reliance o... : Modica Sol Solis
    • I think crafted goods are awesome. WoW has some crafted goods but I'd like to see it go much, much farth... : electroly
    • I like a lot of the concepts you touched on. The idea that the npcs of the world would "know" your chara... : jlavrenz
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    As Modica responsed with, this would initially sound like a single player setting, almost D&D or Oblivion... : fanax
    • Exactly. The ability to walk around player houses and lands would be nice too though I'm not sure how bes... : Modica Sol Solis
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  What I'd like to see is a zombie apocalypse sandbox mmo. Permanent death, hunger, thirst, fatigue, and zo... : Psigun
  • This would be the first MMO I would subscribe to on opening day. : TShandy
  • I think this could be worked with a great deal. Maybe make it an FPS/MMO like Deus Ex meets Zombies but m... : sm00v3d
• ur game needs more dragonz and phat lewtz : darkT
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  I want an mmo with complete real time combat, where a lvl 1 has a chance through sheer skill to take on a... : klearlyunseen
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    You just described Counterstrike. : TShandy
    • no, no I didnt. : klearlyunseen
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      More like Call of Duty 4. Nice try though. : alarm cock
      • or better yet, EVE : alarm cock
  • Take a look up subspace/infantry. Granted it's 2D but they managed to get 150-400 people in a game. : dravalen
  • darkfall : shortbuscaptain
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    To me this is a very interesting concern andI've been trying to conquer this problem with MMOs for a whil... : fanax
    • In addition, twitch based combat tends to remove from a lot of socializing in groups or by players, which... : Modica Sol Solis
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  it really scares me how similar our tastes are : Bantis
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    Glad you like it :P : Modica Sol Solis
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      Now I'm just waitin to hear from wykd and Visc! : Modica Sol Solis
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        so when can we expect the beta : electroly
        • When it's ready! :P : Modica Sol Solis
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  Sounds like what you want is The Elder Scrolls as an MMO, with some tweaks. Not that this would be a bad... : Arcanum
  • To some extent, yes. But in a much grander and wider scale. More skills, more inherent abilities associat... : Modica Sol Solis
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  Sounds pretty quality. I like your ideas, it really takes the best of most worlds. Did you ever play As... : skizl
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    Roleplayers and skill junkies. I mean, there's a lot of D&D and Elder Scrolls in there. The roleplayers w... : Modica Sol Solis
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      I hope I can pimp out my house and make others jealous of my affluence. That's one of the key things I l... : alarm cock
      • What would be cool is having exterior housing customization. I think it would be cool to have some way o... : fanax

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• Printing problem sounds like print drivers or configuration or something. The ytmnd problem could be flas... : Goncyn
• FF's printing has always been fucked for me. I just use IE for that. For everything else I use FF3. : avatar_58
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  I've never had a problem with it on any machine or any printer. Do you have a bunch of extensions instal... : FushigiDenki
  • I do at work, but not at home (lol). I think at home all I have are minor ones like text link and mouse g... : CapnChaos
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  I can't for FF3 after briefly trying the beta. Things jus seemed to work a lot faster. My current FF2 is ... : niceguynick
  • Why not just use FF3? I use it at home and work and it's perfectly stable for me. All my extensions wor... : Horn
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    Does the latest FF3 beta still look retarded in Vista? Anyone have pics? : FushigiDenki
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      Looks fine to me, and I've used it since beta 2. Not sure what you mean. They fixed the silly giant green... : avatar_58
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        Post pics of the latest beta if you can. : FushigiDenki
        • I'm at work right now but I can when I get home (unless someone else does it first). : avatar_58
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    My ONLY complaint about FF is that if you leave it open for a long time it become a memory hog, like it's... : Dynotaku
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      yeah, big memory and performance fixes, I'm installing it now : niceguynick
      • OH GOD NO! Faviconize doesn't work with beta 5! </uninstall> : Dynotaku
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  my problem is it never keeps me logged into sites that I log into, except for this one. Netflix, my bank,... : oatmela
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    FF2? I've noticed that a lot too. I may just try FF3 then if its stable enough, its the final release jun... : niceguynick
    • yeah, FF2. : oatmela
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  who prints internet pages anyway? I never understood that. Just like I can't understand why someone would... : ysbreker
  • People who actually need to use the directions from Google Maps? : Arcanum
  • What kind of post is this? If I want to print something from the internet (such as a deal from futureshop... : avatar_58
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    lol what? You're right, nothing on the internet should be printed. : CapnChaos
    • where's that video of sleepy printing out a post and rubbing it on his face? that was awesome. : deject
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  If I install the beta, you think I can just update it to the final when it comes out? ...rather than re-i... : niceguynick
  • I'm leaning towards no. I think the RC's update though. : K1Bond007
  • Does it matter? When uninstalling it keeps all the settings. Hell half the time I forget to backup my boo... : avatar_58
  • i think you can, but RCs will come first. right now i'm using Minefield which is the codename for the nig... : jonas54
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  Gone downhill since they renamed Phoenix to Firefox : knepus
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    Firebird was the best man. After Phoenix there was that brief period of glory when it had the perfect nam... : A Sponge
    • Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about Firebird. You are of course correct : knepus
    • The problem with the Firebird name. (I have the same problem with Thunderbird) The first thing I think wh... : yellowtexan
    • Fuck restricting trademarks. Iceweasel forevah! : dmason
    • FoxFire </oldpeople> : CapnChaos
  • What is sad is that I keep getting tech support calls from people who are having login problems when usin... : mtgDoofy
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  why did adblock disappear with beta 5? :/ I've been surfing a week without it... the humanity... : thebigbeefsandwhich
  • there a fix on this page I think http://lifehacker.com/376551/the-complete-field-guide-to-testing-firefox... : niceguynick
• My only complaint about FF are Forms. I do not know if there is a fix for this, but on a lot of web site ... : hirosushima
• an addon or 2 from FF2 makes the beta crash all the time, so I'll have to go without for a while.. : niceguynick
• not getting worse. just not getting better. : NeoMoose

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• I don't know. I bought the Wii because it's unique and innovative in some games, and also because I've al... : avatar_58
• I agree. I think utilizing the Wiimote the way it can (and should) be used in games requires a shift in t... : perstephanie
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  The wiimote is great and accurate if you're using it as a pointer. It is inaccurate as a motion device. : Judecca
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    For gesture type motion, yeah, it's not that accurate, but for measuring pitch and roll, it's accurate. ... : DHAvatar
    • For pitch and roll it is good, but only assuming it is being held still : Judecca
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  I definitely believe it's the games that make the Wiimote use look gimmicky. It was like that with the D... : DHAvatar
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    Yeah but thanks to people bitching developers are not taking chances as much. Final Fantasy IV DS won't h... : avatar_58
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      Most people just stick with what they're comforatble with and are unwilling to change. Why change from t... : DHAvatar
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        FFIII offered both - you had a choice. However many many gamers felt the need to complain anyway, and I w... : avatar_58
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          It's a lot like what they did for Phantom Hourglass, which I think used all the features of the DS extrem... : DHAvatar
          • Yes I loved Phantom Hourglass' control method. It's just far more comfortable to use the stylus than to u... : avatar_58
    • That's irritating about FFIV DS, BUT they did add stylus driven control to Final Fantasy Tactics Advance ... : sevogajre
    • I didn't even use the stylus for FF3. I though it sucked. : razlebol
• Xbox 360 wiimote is going to rock. : ejectorpod
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  the problem IMO is: you have a cheap simple friendly game system were the majority of users are mom, pop ... : yuiwork
  • Ya, the SUCCESS of the Wii may be its doom... crazy. : lowayne
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  The 360 controller would destroy the Wiimote in a competitive FPS. : h o s t i l e
  • Unfounded predictions in this subthread! : Horn
  • lol no. : geedeck
  • I completely disagree. : atom519
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    In some respects I agree with this. The button layout on the 360 controller is a lot better than the that... : sigpro
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      lol no : MoreVespeneGas
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        Lol what? You really thing the wii controller has enough buttons and the right layout for you to use them... : sigpro
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          Yes, but then again I've played Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (32 player online). I know ho... : MoreVespeneGas
          • Metroid Prime 3 was a thing of perfection. : walker270
          • I've played Medal of Honor Heros 2 and I found the controls to be really bad in the non light gun part of... : sigpro
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    I agree. Is there even a Wii multiplayer FPS game that anyone plays? There is no way you could play somet... : bozer
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      The wii mote has 12 buttons. It should be enough. Anyways.. If you put the number of buttons aside, you c... : razlebol
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        I don't think so really. Think about Call of Duty 4. That new map creek. Enemies are so far away and heav... : bozer
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          The wii mote is almost as precise and fast as a mouse when done correctly. Look at Metroid. It is better. : razlebol
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            I'd like to see some videos of the Wiimote faster then Xbox aiming. : rhuntley12
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              http://youtube.com/watch?v=tEaIm-hpBlQ : razlebol
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                that guy isn't very good at a controller though, he is strafe aiming with the XBL controller. Wiimote is ... : Klebold
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                  The turning is a question of sensibility you can make it more sensible to turn faster. I don't unders... : razlebol
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                    do you mean sensitivity? : mechanicalgrape
                    • yeal lol : razlebol
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                    Guess we will never know unless there is a multi game with wii and xbox playing togather. : rhuntley12
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                      There is a mod for half-life 2 and UT2k4 with the wii mote. It's possible to play controller vs the wii. ... : razlebol
                      • And a bunch of other videos of HL2 with the wii mote http://youtube.com/user/PJG2005 : razlebol
            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YePLMI9pu4 : Nali4Freedom
        • I can aim FAR more quickly with the Wiimote than I can with an analog controller, especially when shootin... : Arcanum
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          Also.. if its so great, then how come there isn't anyone playing wii games competitively? When was the la... : bozer
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            People actually become tired playing the Wii? Seriously? I always thought this was retarded hyperbole. : walker270
            • Wrist gets tired. Its not a fat lazy thing. Try playing for 3 hours and your wrist gets tired. You also h... : bozer
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          I would like to see someone do this with a 360 controller: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KQeHjQziSzA : mechanicalgrape
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            Yeah, but see thats just shit popping up. In COD you have to be able to spin and turn around as well and ... : bozer
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              So.. the 360 controller is better if you're fighting someone in a straight hallway and already aimed at t... : walker270
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                Not at all what I said. Im saying in an open area where there are enemies all around you it would be bett... : bozer
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                  Turn rate is a mechanic of a game though, it's not limited by what console it's on. : mechanicalgrape
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                    No idea what that means but what Im saying is Id rather play COD4 with 360 controller then some lock on b... : bozer
                    • It doesn't have to have any auto lock on like you were implying, this is usually implemented to help out ... : atom519
                    • you can turn the lock-on off in MP3 and any decent FPS made for the Wii would do the same. : Old_Fart
                • Wouldn't this be dependent on the game? Since, you know, the turning mechanism is an analogue thumbstick ... : project13
            • This post doesn't make any sense. : atom519
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        It's not the number of buttons that is the problem. It's the location of them for quick and easy using th... : sigpro
        • You have 8 easy access button. More than enough, the rest can be used for stuff that matters less. 1 f... : razlebol
  • Thats like the special Olympics of competitive FPS's. They are still both retards compared to the Mouse+K... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Mouse and Keyboard < 360 Controller : walker270
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      Is this a typo? : SockMonkeh
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        It's about as ridiculous as hostile's post. : walker270
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          So you think someone playing with the Wii controller in COD4 or Halo3 would beat a person using a 360 con... : h o s t i l e
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            I have not played MOH for Wii but how do you think someone could jump,throw nades,crouch,switch weapons,s... : h o s t i l e
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              Pretty easily? The Wii controller allows for much greater flexibility in movement and aiming than the 36... : walker270
              • ^^^^ hasnt played against me your arguments are null : -=kodiak=-
            • Why wouldn't they be able to do all this as fast with a wiimote? I don't understand? Trigger on the wiimo... : razlebol
          • Then you haven't played a Wii FPS with a good control scheme. If you had, you wouldn't even try to make t... : Conan
      • God I hope so. : guido anchovy
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      hahahhahah no : atom519
      • there are people on xbox and ps3 forums that think so. i was shocked seeing this shit while reading threa... : pyide
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  I personally enjoy using a standard regular controller over the Wii controller. Wii Sports was cool at fi... : bozer
  • Get in shape, fatty. ;) : lowayne
• I just wish it was less remote-shaped and more gun-shaped, with an angled grip, so I didn't have to bend ... : wasylm
• It is imprecise and can be laggy. The rest I agree with. : SiW73
• post of the week! : MoreVespeneGas
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  i don't know about gimmick, but it is certainly imprecise and laggy : cpt_gloval
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    Not in any game I've played, what ones have you noticed this in? Metroid Prime 3? Medal of Honor Heroes 2... : MoreVespeneGas
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      I've played MOH:H2 online and the wii remote works great. : guido anchovy
      • same here : MoreVespeneGas
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    no. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4vTmdjahl2o : aethyr
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      ^ Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 : aethyr
      • Well that sets it, I know exactly now what version of PES 08 to get. :D : bitter ego
      • holy crap that looks amazing. : lowayne
      • Hehe. Looks more like a RTS game than a Soccer game. : razlebol
      • The learning curve on that is probably wickedly steep, but once you've learned it I bet its a ton of fun. : fishbone
      • ive got it, it rocks - but damn its hard to get used to. : Klebold
      • holy wow, that's awesome. : Deathlove
      • O_O WANT : ieGod
      • Holy shitballs this makes me want to get this game. Seems like the wii-mote would make sports games reall... : NastyJack
      • that looks fantastic : jcupitt
    • holy shit how awesome : moshman
    • that's impressive. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • wow, that's pretty awesome : FushigiDenki
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      See just watching that point move all over the screen looks annoying as hell to me just thinking about mo... : sigpro
      • something tells me that when you're actually playing the game and making the calls (rather than just watc... : Fayk
    • Wow. That looks fucking beautiful. : Stage
    • wow. : virus
  • You must be playing on a laggy TV. : suqur
• I thought the controls in MP3 were really well done, but I never felt like they were quick/precise enough... : Begawkiness
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  i think it's a huge pain in the ass to use. i'd rather chill out with a controller when i want to play g... : arizona bay
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    Only autistic retards think they need to swing their arms around like autistic retards to play the Wii. : walker270
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      I would've thought with all the time you spend bitching about your undergrad students from your ivory gra... : arizona bay
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        what? : walker270
        • You should fight him to the death. Whichever of you dies, we all win. : Bold
      • the force is strong in this particular fanboy, ice tea man, he will follow you to the ends of the earth : Jackass1233
      • There was an ivory grad school tower club and I wasn't invited. :( : pap26
• the controller might not be a gimmick but the graphics are a joke : gyokuro
• I'm the exact opposite on the Metroid Prime 3. I'm sure that is in the minority here but I just could no... : rhuntley12
• I have tried the Wiimote, and it IS laggy. : CrustaR
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  People who think it's laggy are probably just playing on a HDTV, and it's the TV the is lagging if that's... : Boxelder
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    Perhaps but why would I want to play on a non-hdtv : bozer
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      Because the Wii isn't HD? : SinistarX
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        I used the component cables and it looks as good as its gonna get. But my point is, should we all throw a... : bozer
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          He's citing the input lag seen on a lot of lower-quality HDTVs as a possible reason. : walker270
          • Yeah. I dont think that its my TV. I dont really find it laggy, I just dont really like it more then a re... : bozer
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            So low-quality HDTV's have input lag, but every standard definition tv works just fine? Do high quality H... : Jackass1233
            • Same input lag that people saw with Guitar Hero: http://www.fubarduck.com/hdtv-lag-faq/ http://hdtvlag.... : aethyr
            • It depends on the HDTV. Some models (especially the early samsung DLPs) have a lag when they upscale the ... : Prozium
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            it's not just lower quality HDTVs, it's pretty much all of them except for ones with "gamer mode" or some... : Boxelder
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              Not all HDTVs use low-quality scalars. : walker270
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                It's not just low quality scalers. Even some high end ones introduce lag because they do so much processi... : Prozium
                • Yup, they focus on quality of the upscaling to make SD TV look less terrible, because that's what sells T... : Boxelder
            • LCD HDTV's are particularly bad about it, too. DLP to a lesser extent and plasma/CRT response time worri... : DianeOfTheMoon
• Also I don't think Metroids controls were that great. If you add lock on to stick controls they'd work r... : Boxelder
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  too much fanboy arguments going on in the subthreads to be able to keep track of anything. Ill simply... : Jackass1233
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    So... you're saying "the 360 controller is better for fps games than the wii controller, and STFU anyone ... : walker270
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      he's right though until theres more then 2 Wii fps games, one of which isn't even multiplayer : bozer
      • Do you work for Hillary Clinton's campaign staff? The question of better has nothing to do with availabi... : walker270
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    Why is it laughable? Give us some valid points to back up your claim. : mechanicalgrape
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      There aren't any. The Wii remote is a more natural pointing device than analog thumbsticks. This is one... : walker270
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        Your right, the Wii FPS scene will soon completely take over the XBOX/PS3 and PC FPS scenes. Your control... : Jackass1233
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          Even if there is only one Wii FPS game whose controls are better then the best Xbox FFS game, his point s... : atom519
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            Don't you think every FPS dev in the world would be running to make FPS games for the Wii if it was that ... : bozer
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              The market is better on the 360, plus you can hit the PS3 and PC using most of the same assets. : walker270
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                The Wii has a pretty huge market now, no? I think we should just agree to disagree because there's no way... : bozer
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                  don't be an idiot bozer, we all know the FPS market on the 360 is way bigger and the Wii market is not fu... : derelict515
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                    ***********CONTROLLER************** One of the main reasons, just because 8 guys on an internet forum ... : Jackass1233
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                      Because the three gamepad warriors in this thread are totally representative of the majority. : omnova
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                        well once again, it goes back to the point that both sides opinions are totally worthless, because they a... : Jackass1233
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                          Maybe, just maybe, its because its the graphics, available assets, ease of porting to/simultaneous develo : walker270
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                            You realize the Wii is probably the easiest platform to develop for? The only problem they'd have is gett... : bozer
                            • I dunno about that. Easy/cheap because of the low requirements for graphical assets, yes. Easy to prog... : FushigiDenki
                        • or it could be because FPS types are the ones who complain most about non-HD graphics and no online play ... : derelict515
                        • There are not many FPS games on the Wii because their target audiences do not strongly overlap. This arg : omnova
                    • lol exactly. You know Im sick of making excuses for the Wii. First they get away with not having HD graph... : bozer
                    • right back at you... : FushigiDenki
            • All those PC FPS devs aren't making nearly as many FPS games for macs, even though the controls are the s... : Nali4Freedom
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            How are you going to prove that there is one Wii FPS which is better than the best Xbox FPS game? You can... : Jackass1233
            • I explain it by the fact that the FPS was primarily a PC genre until the Xbox and Halo. It's also a genre... : Old_Fart
        • I would argue with you, but it appears that you don't know how. : vigilante
        • Not the same market of users so it will not, try again. : FushigiDenki
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      The wii-mote is great for moving a cursor around the screen, but it suffers when you attempt to use it as... : Jackass1233
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        Jackass1233, what the fuck do you know? I have played Halo and TF2 with you and you aren't very good at e... : SockMonkeh
        • He was using the Wii remote so that's why. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • certain field you must point at/keep signal in when playing This is my #1 problem with the Wiimote. I : electroly
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        Metroid Prime 3 has the best controls I've ever seen in a console FPS game. They cannot be mimicked by a... : walker270
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          Those are all your opinions, even "counter circle strafing" is neigh impossible with the Wii remote, as m... : Jackass1233
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            Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is actually quite good, with controls that are equal if not better than MP3, it a... : mechanicalgrape
            • I'll make it a point to try this game out, since ive heard several people mention it. I normally wouldn't... : Jackass1233
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        Hold the analog stick to the left to strafe left. Point the wiimote slightly to the right. Circle str... : hanfeitzu
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          Its pretty clear to me that all his trying to call out Nintendo fanboys he's missing the fact that he's a... : ovrlrd
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            you have no idea what your talking about. Because I play PC, 360, Wii, and PS3 games, and I have complete... : Jackass1233
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              The only real point you make in your argument above is that it's next to impossible to circle strafe usin... : mechanicalgrape
              • I believe his initial point was "you're all wrong and need to shut up." To be fair, no one has effecti... : walker270
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                How about having to keep your controller within a certain zone for it to actually respond, how often duri... : Jackass1233
                • If you're playing in a 'heated' multiplayer match, where you're supposedly focusing a lot of your attenti... : mechanicalgrape
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        A person with a wii-mote using metroid 3 style controls would absolutely own a xbox 360 controller using ... : NastyJack
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          But you're comparing a single player game made specifically for the Wii to games that are unable to even ... : bozer
          • No, he's saying that if you had a game that accepted both types of controllers, with the wiimote controls... : mechanicalgrape
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            All I am pointing out (and maybe I don't understand the argument properly because I am not gonna read thi... : NastyJack
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              And thats where the disagreement begins. And until that happens, I think the whole argument is retarded. ... : bozer
              • Have you played MP3? : NastyJack
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              your honestly going to argue that if you could hook up a Wii-mote to a PC and play TF2 against me using t... : Jackass1233
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                360 FPS games are designed for the 360 controller too, bro. : walker270
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                  I don't even know what this means, are you just going around looking for my posts and replying with somet... : Jackass1233
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                    If you think for a second that the 360 controls weren't a significant consideration throughout the game's... : omnova
                    • what are you talking about? How is it a significant consideration versus having to implement a completely... : Jackass1233
              • I never said it was as good as a mouse and keyboard. I said it was better than a 360 controller. It's sti... : NastyJack
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        This is the exact point I was trying to make. When you have enemies all around you, you simply can't get ... : bozer
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          Except the rate you turn is the same, and you can start shooting them sooner since you're not restricted ... : walker270
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            ^^ ding ding ding, you lose quick turning but you gain the ability to aim someplace besides the center of... : FushigiDenki
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              No, it's not a restriction for the mouse at all. There are some games that work that way with the mouse. ... : SockMonkeh
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                I agree with it being a restriction for the gamepad, though, just not the mouse. : SockMonkeh
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                  I don't know of one FPS for PC that lets you aim within area of the screen. Maybe an on-rails shooter. : FushigiDenki
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                    Well, they exist, Red Orchestra to name one. Anyway, it's irrelevant. The point remains that only being a... : SockMonkeh
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                      And you can turn as fast as you want with the Wii too... : FushigiDenki
                      • I disagree with that but it's also irrelevant because I wasn't saying that you can't. I was saying that t... : SockMonkeh
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          Have you played any FPS games on the Wii? : mechanicalgrape
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            I get a sense that some people arguing this point haven't played MP3 in which case they couldn't possibly... : NastyJack
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              Jackass hasn't, search his post history. He's just trolling. : FushigiDenki
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                I've played it, hated it. Couldn't figure out the hype for it, but that is just my opinion. : rhuntley12
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                  That's cool, but you aren't saying that anyone who says otherwise is a troll either (as Jackass is doing,... : FushigiDenki
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                    you need to shut the fuck up already, because your the one trolling here. You have your fanboy panties wo... : Jackass1233
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                      Fanboy fanboy! Jackass is right and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fanboy! FANBOY! Really, I like ... : FushigiDenki
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                        wow and you are totally entitled to your opinion, just like I am entitled to mine. I already said many ti... : Jackass1233
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                          Yep, you wasted your day. Before I even posted here you were calling me a fanboy for fitting the mold o... : FushigiDenki
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                            You said you abandoned every other FPS title, and rated MP3 a 15/10 for its control scheme. Give me a fuc... : Jackass1233
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                              Yes, I did. But because it was MORE FUN to play an FPS that way. I didn't rate shit for control scheme, : FushigiDenki
                              • calm down. In the previous post (NOT the original post, do you understand that, obviously not since your ... : Jackass1233
              • I am not trolling at all, don't be so defensive, I have completed metroid prime 3, as well as several oth... : Jackass1233
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            I have played it and its designed for the wii controller. Wii controller in another game, (Cod4 in this c... : bozer
            • COD for Wii is pretty good, the controls are second only to MP3. You should give it a shot, it will chan... : FushigiDenki
            • If turning around and taking aim was truly as important to you as you're claiming, you would be playing C... : project13
  • "Too many arbitrary arguments in this thread, here's mine" Hahaha. Nice. : Blucklesworth
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    I laugh at you Jackass. You've probably never played Metroid Prime 3. An examination of your post histo... : FushigiDenki
    • I don't own a Wii, because there is only 3 or 4, I have however completed several games on it, including ... : Jackass1233
• keyboard + mouse is superior to all other forms of game control. everything else is a gimmick and sucks. : bfzzzz
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  Metroid Prime 3 is my favorite single-player FPS ever. The controls take the game from a 9/10 to 15/10. ... : FushigiDenki
  • Oh, and I would speculate that you are correct about other developers not getting it right. They have ac... : FushigiDenki
  • The controls are great, but the title is only good. The first Prime is still the best in the series. : ieGod
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    Yeah and until the rest of the world agrees that MP + Wii controller is the best thing ever I think you a... : bozer
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      Yea bozer, you tell 'em! That Fushigi guy is full of shit. But really, who cares what "the rest of the ... : FushigiDenki
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        Ok - well I will keep on enjoying my FPS games while you dream of a day when the Wii controller can be us... : bozer
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          Yes, because people who think the Wii is a better FPS controller than the 360 controller cannot, by natur... : walker270
          • I don't know what you're talking about leave me alone bully : bozer
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          You are way to sensitive about this dude. : FushigiDenki
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            no im not. lets move on. its ok to disagree : bozer
            • Definitely fine to disagree, not that cool to be all "na na na, I get go play FPS games u don't Wii owner... : FushigiDenki
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          except you were condeming anyone who liked the wii motes choice. : ass-street
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            The OP is astonished I might like it more using a regular controller. I provided my reasons for disagreei... : bozer
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              this is the most contradictory statement i've ever seen. : ass-street
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                i'm sorry to have shocked and appalled the man who calls himself ass-street. : bozer
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                  ok gozer. : ass-street
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                    that sucked. shoulda went with bozo or boner. : bozer
                    • i think it was pretty good. http://grammarpolice.net/archives/images/gozer.jpg : ass-street
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      That doesn't make any sense. FPS's are not really the domain of the Wii. Certainly the control scheme is ... : NastyJack
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        Did MP3 sell well? Why haven't they made one with multiplayer? I imagine if the sales were decent someone... : rhuntley12
        • Because multiplayer on Wii is gimped for every game :( It sold decently. : FushigiDenki
        • I have no idea. I never pay any attention to anything like that. I'm sure someone will someday but I'd wa... : NastyJack
        • because multiplayer on the Wii is an abortion. : derelict515
    • Strangely enough, the promise of good controls are not the only factor that determines if a developer/pub... : atom519
    • Haha, way to be a dick : megarust32
    • I fail to understand your logic on how this have anything to do with which one has better/faster aim.. : razlebol
    • hey bozer great job here : Mr.SEX
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      You are definitely the smartest guy here. Best logic ever. : OverloadUT
      • Thanks, finally someone agrees! : bozer
• so it's fine for the KIDS GAMES selection, which is ALL THE WII HAS AMIRITE thread was getting stale, got : Downforce
• I like it, but it's far from perfect. : fleabug
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  How about we have a match of HL2 with a team of wiimote players vs a team of 360/PS3 controllers and see ... : razlebol
  • ugh.. I hate how he turns. Like to get into another room.. I hate that and it looks like it sucks. : bozer
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    this would be the ultimate way to test this. All the people (like fushidenki and nastyjack) who think its... : Jackass1233
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      Simply supporting the Wiimote does not mean it supports it well. There are horrible implementations on W... : FushigiDenki
      • give it a shot and let us know, then we can duel to the death and settle this argument : Jackass1233
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    Kinda novel, but the turning stuff is crazy. They need to either make the analog move the viewport (while... : Fayk
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      it wouldn't work in a multilayer FPS at all. The best was him trying to snipe that guy in the tower. : Jackass1233
      • Yes, it will never work in a multiplayer FPS, you've definitely proven that. : FushigiDenki
      • It's just like an analog stick, there's a dead zone in the middle (which I think is too big in the video ... : Nali4Freedom
• Despite the haters, I agree that MP3 has the best console FPS controls I've seen thus far. : ColoradoCNC
• There are two kinds of gamers. Gamers that look for an excuse to not play a game/console, and gamers that... : Fayk
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  I find the pointer to be great, but the accelerometers I find to be pretty imprecise. Even Nintendo games... : OverloadUT
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    the Wii bowling game detects fairly small amount of turn to hook the ball. : Old_Fart
    • Ah, you are correct; I forgot about that one. I think the key there is that you're doing fairly slow and ... : OverloadUT
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    I'm opposite. I wish the pointer had more than one sensor. If you draw a straight line from my TV to th... : pigvomit
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      how would an extra sensor help? it detects just the position of the "sensor" bar. it has no idea how bi... : electroly
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        Maybe some kind of triangulation. : pigvomit
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          It already does that, that's why it's a sensor bar and not a sensor dot. That still doesn't help, becaus... : electroly
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            You could maybe have two sensor bars, one on top and one on bottom, and then it could determine the width... : electroly
            • Or, I guess taking this to the logical conclusion, just 4 little circles you stick on the 4 corners of yo... : electroly
    • Actually, some games do account for that. House of the Dead 2&3 does it best - basically you calibrate yo... : Conan
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  Why is this even an issue, when everybody knows that Mouse + KB > all. OMG my console controller is be... : jimmy-buffett
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    I love that this thread has dicks on all three sides of the fence. : OverloadUT
    • Dickery knows no race, country, or creed. : Finestaut
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    Congrats, you just added more asininity to an already asinine thread. : omnova
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      please tell me we've got trackball fanboys somewhere : xsoulbrothax
      • TRACKBALL+JOYSTICK > ALL! : OverloadUT
    • His name is Jimmy Buffet. : the city
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  I think I hate the entire shack now. : Orange Pylon
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    "To each his own" does not exist in the shack collective's vocabulary. : OverloadUT
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      Dude, this is probably the most civil internet discussion forum I can think of. : Serpico74
      • Your opinion is wrong and invalid and false. : egg5hen
      • Civil; yes. Understanding that different people can prefer something different than you without it being ... : OverloadUT
• The wiimote needs to have a toggle free look button. When you want to move the camera, you hold the butt... : losder5000
• this thread is a shack abortion. good grief... come on guys. : virus
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  So did we figure out which one is best? tldr : treework
  • Yeah it was pretty much universal, the 360 controller is the best fps interface. : Judecca

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  Also: http://www.geekologie.com/2008/02/nerf_vulcan_is_fully_auto_full.php : d0gbert
  • :o only $40 : m0nkz
  • \M/ \M/ : dravalen
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    Pretty cool. Does it come with the gay gladiator? : Fred Garvin
    • No but the gay gladiator comes on you. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  would love to see one of those in the sentry gun model :D : Demius
  • That's exactly what I was thinking. Motion sensor that shit! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Reminds me of the Nerf chaingun I got for xmas one year. That thing was LOUD. : Sgt_Boomstick
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    This one? http://nerfcenter.com/reviews-of/Ballzooka.htm It was pretty badass. : thejm4n
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      or..... http://nerfcenter.com/reviews-of/Arrowstorm.htm : thejm4n
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        Nah it was actuall this one: http://img58.exs.cx/img58/2673/rbside3ej.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Pent... : Sgt_Boomstick
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          Don't remember any free standing ones when I was kid. : thejm4n
          • I've got one, in fact I think I still have it boxed up. It was essentially a gun with a big crank handle ... : Sgt_Boomstick
• this is what we have been waiting for since we were 5 : eldiablo01
• What in the ... : Attica Blue
• I wish I could mod that to shoot paintballs. : DarkWolf5
• Happines is a belt fed weapon. : ihya
• haha I want one but I want it to shoot out mini waterballoons filled with piss : Melll
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  whatever. unload the whole clip and its at least 10 minutes until you can reload and do it again! i alway... : mr.sleepy
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    Ever vacationed in Mexico? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Yes : mr.sleepy
      • And do you like gladiator movies? : Mad Brahmin Disease
• where was this shit when i was a kid. and the foam swords in toys r us. seriously. : xsoulbrothax
• I doesn't look like it shoots very far though. : stgdz
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  I have this one which holds 5 less darts, but doesn't require batteries, I don't think they sell it anymo... : Nali4Freedom
  • There's another one that's vaguely similar. Impossible to reload at any speed, and pretty bulky. : Arcanum
  • Yeah, they still sell it, I've got one on the desk next to me. : dravalen
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  I think my favourite for ridiculousness is the Nerf missile launcher : Postal
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    oh god, i was playing with that thing at work with a bunch of people a couple months ago. they had some d... : xsoulbrothax
    • lol, they'd be prepared as anyone for a terrorist attack! : Postal
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  that thing's gotta be loud as hell with the blower running. But still, it's a Nerf M249. : the archvile
  • That's immediately what I thought. Nerf SAW. : emnii
• I remember I bought a Nerf Maverick when it was on sale at Target for around 7 bucks a pop. Modded it so... : Mikuya
• here's one: geeky : biskits
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  The "Recon" (retooled Longshot) has me interested as well: http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/nerf2008/10007 : the archvile
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    Hah, I was wrong! It DOES mod into a pistol, but you detach the barrel and stock, so it maintains the pi... : the archvile
    • After some looking and searching, it's spring operated; it looks like the gray part over the clip is the ... : the archvile
  • Damn, I wanted the longshot so bad. : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Next pic, wtf? http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/nerf2008/1000756369 : Sirus2400
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      That's the 'rocket launcher' mentioned a couple posts up. Or at least what I thought it was. It's not sho... : xsoulbrothax
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        Jesus, i've been missing so much living in japan. : Sirus2400
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          You can also mod the Longshot. Some of the aforementioned people at work (marketing, mostly) did it - ... : xsoulbrothax
          • If thats the case why not just buy airsoft. : Nighteyes
• Holy crap, that's awesome. Why couldn't they have these when I was a kid. Anyone else have that bow & ... : DOOManiac

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  part 2 http://jayisgames.com/archives/2007/09/hoshi_saga_2.php : marmite
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    Wow, I like the waterglasses where you play twinkle twinkle little star : thetangent
    • jesus, i don't remember the tune past the first part :\ hahah : xsoulbrothax
• Update: Still stuck : marmite
• Level 1 made me smile :) : zerog83
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  wtf @ stage 21? : zerog83
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    I'm stumped. How's this one work? : lolpatrol
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      Nevermind, used DHAvatar's pointer below : lolpatrol
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        even with the hint, I can't do 21..what am I missing. : deathofrats
        • If the screen was divided into a tic tac toe board, numbered from 1-9, it would be around the 1-2 area ju : TheNiXXeD
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          On the top, if you click about half way between all the way to the left and the middle you should hear a : boredguy
          • Ah, im playing these without sound... : deathofrats
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  WTF stage 5? : thetangent
  • ^ this : sKetchflow
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    I got it but that is the one so far I have no fucking clue as to how. : sigpro
    • You're rotating the concentric circles, each of which is a hole letting you see down to the next layer, u : xsoulbrothax
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  I got stuck on 33 as well. 33 and 35 gave me problems, but I cheated in 33 and looked for help. :( I wo... : DHAvatar
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    where did you look for help? A couple of these are completely eluding me and it's maddening! : thetangent
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      The second link that marmite posted has the first game linked in there and some of the comments give solu... : DHAvatar
      • aaah, ok. I've had to use it on a couple that just made no sense. Anyone get all of em without help? : thetangent
• stage 12 :( : alarm cock
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  Game clear! Stage 33 is kinda lame, I solved it by luck the first time, then went back to see what th... : Mad Jack McMad
  • How?!?! : Edges
• i got them all without looking for help but a few im not sure how i got :/ : andrew``
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  30 pissed me off because your clicking the entire game and then all of the sudden you use your keyboard? : hirosushima
  • Yeah, that's bullshit. : Rag and Bone Man
• Stage 11 is why I'll never fly a spaceship. : trOmblyj
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  WTF 23? : mr.sleepy
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    Protip: 卍 : My Documents
    • How'd you.... There's ascii for that? : deathofrats
• WTF stage 64! : Melll
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  14, 17, 23, 31 - i cannot figure these out : virus
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    ok 18 is gay - wtf? : virus
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      yup ... 18, 31, and 33 are all that i have left. HALP : virus
      • yes! got 31. that was retarded. : virus
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    How did you get 14? : Ryno
    • Nevermind. Got it : Ryno
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  I figured them all out on my own without really getting stuck for more than 15 seconds. I feel like a bad... : xsoulbrothax
  • yeah, that one was probably the most annoying : Nali4Freedom
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    I cannot believe that you intuitively understood 33 within 15 seconds. : Felraiser
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      i tried clicking along the edges of the shades to see if it peeled apart, moved around looking for any ho : xsoulbrothax
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        I'm just not sure how you would have gained faith in the sword approach in such a small amount of time. B... : Felraiser
        • i took weapon focus / GWF in long sword when i was a kid, and just picked up weapon specialization. : xsoulbrothax
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        there must be a spot to start the process, 33 is all I have left, nothing is working : Downforce
        • yep had to resort to a guide, anyone who gets it just lucked out lol : Downforce
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  bad. stuck on 21. i've got the rest of the available ones, though. just gotta get that one. : mindmann
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    how did you get 18? : virus
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      Form the points of a star with the circle's placement at your five mouse clicks. : Felraiser
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        right. i've been trying that, but its not working lol : virus
        • That's the one that made me close the tab. : Ebu
        • the first time i tried right side up, it didn't work. when i inverted the star it worked - i might have j... : xsoulbrothax
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          Start at top dead center and then do every 6th circle. : Gnowknayme
          • my hero. thank you ... for god sakes... : virus
          • Gnowknayme for president : Ebu
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    Someone give me a hint for 21 :( : OverloadUT
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      are your speakers on? : Nali4Freedom
      • Haha nope. Thanks :) : OverloadUT
• 26 is totally awesome. : Edges
• This game is sweet. Thanks for fucking up my productivity for the afternoon! : Madwacker
• halp on 29 plz :( : liqker
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  I have no idea what to do with 17, anyone care to give me a hint? : Super Sparker
  • nm : Super Sparker
  • hint: you might do this if you don't have a bookmark handy but want to keep your place in a book your rea : liqker
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  all of you who beat the game, well, let's not get too smug because there is still work to be done!!! h... : alarm cock
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    Haha, look at the first reply to this post, made by the root poster ;) : Begawkiness
    • ahahaha fuck me : alarm cock
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    I'm up to #70 right now and there hasn't been anything as hulk smash in part 2 as #33 was in part 1. : My Documents
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      The skirt one. : Mad Jack McMad
      • Yeah, pretty much. Worst one, but it happens early on. The rest is pretty smooth sailing. : My Documents
      • I'm stuck here, too. Everything else is done. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
      • If it were possible for a flash game to have sex with sheep, this one would be doing it. : xsoulbrothax
  • Actually, it's Alaine. : lookitzpancakes
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  12 can kiss my ass : OverloadUT
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    Ya, whats the deal with 12? : CRasterImage
    • It's a fucking cunt is what the deal is >:( : Ebu
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  fuck this game : jenisthebest
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    I've closed the tab, oh, 6 times so far. : Ebu
    • 3 for me :( : jenisthebest
• I really hated 47 : Githyanki
• 34 was easy, but it was freaking cool. : shyguy74
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  hints on 30 & 35? they're pissing me off : shyguy74
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    general hints: 30: you have to use your keyboard 35: the clock shows the actual time on your computer : Nali4Freedom
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      or wait, ignore my hint for 30, 30: glow in the dark : Nali4Freedom
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        and that should be 30, not 35, this game has clearly drained all my mental capacity : Nali4Freedom
        • er... 35 not 30, sigh. : Nali4Freedom
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      ok, i passed 35 not knowing how. and i don't understand your hint. i do realize that the clock shows my c : shyguy74
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        no, I'm retarded, I just got lucky on that one too, see my revision above. : Nali4Freedom
        • argh, okay, makes sense now. 30 is so stupid though in that all the other ones require simply mouse movem : shyguy74

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  Also, Hirez, Devil Dog and I have spoken and are getting the band back together for Conan. Of course, we ... : Visceral Monkey
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    I wasn't sure how many shackers were going to be playing AoC so I signed up with the goon guild already. ... : smackpiece
    • Meh, you can always change later if you want. I have no idea what kind of turn out we will have, but ther... : Visceral Monkey
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    hahah. the wind whispers MOKOMIS. What's the time commitment on this thing? Does soloing work ok? I had t... : hirez
    • hirez we will have a shacker city named Cockopolis, that should be enough reason to play. Hopefully we... : shortbuscaptain
    • Apparently, it's solo friendly. I've never been into raiding nor do I have the time for it, so I'm there ... : Visceral Monkey
    • If you quit WoW because you didn't have enough time for it, I don't know how you plan to play any MMO. Wo... : Modica Sol Solis
• Fatalities are really, really cool. But I think the novelty will wear off soon. : skinlab133
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  1) Damn notd665 2) An E8400 would be the best choice IMO. Especially if you OC to 4~ghz : wykd
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    Yea, totally agree with #1. : Visceral Monkey
    • Oh btw, the E8400 OEM chip (no HSF) dropped to $199 on tigerdirect. : wykd
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  Yea there is a lot of negativity on that forum you have to read through, on one hand I have heard it is m... : shortbuscaptain
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    Yea, that one guy rails against the Barbarians, but to each his own. : Visceral Monkey
    • To me the Barbarian sounds a lot like a stun lock rogue, not a tank - it is a Rogue arch type. I have rea... : shortbuscaptain
    • fixed months ago : cptstern
  • you're/they're comparing a game that's still in beta with a retail release : cptstern
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  RP-PVP is gay dont do it. I played on an rp-pvp server on wow because i had a friend who wanted me to lev... : Iwannaacura
  • Ya, that does fucking bother me. I'll play where everyone else does, so whatever the group wants. : Visceral Monkey
  • lol! So ridiculous. : FormerHPB
  • It all depends if it is enforced rp, if that is the case fuck that shit. If it's recommended though pl... : shortbuscaptain
  • just don't do world or local chat. Keep it in party and guild chat. I played a RP-PVP server in WoW and... : cltcprd
  • Um that is the true point behind the servers. Also way to call them faggots because they enjoy something ... : Evil Benius
  • Well, it's RP for a reason... If you don't want to be yelled "out of char", then play on a non-rp server.... : razlebol
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    I never saw any of that in DAoC (I played on Guinevere) or WoW (played on Emerald Dream). : Tommy Toolbag
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      ^^^ Guinevere was fucking awesome. I had such a blast. Only played up to 36, but when I was playing there... : Danny5225
      • Thats exactly it. Just chat normally and have a decent name is all people ask. : Tommy Toolbag
  • jesus christ : Bantis
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  question, do you have a compulsion to play every MMO as its released? ;p : derelict515
  • Pretty much. I consider it my hobby. : Visceral Monkey
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    MMO launches are one of the best times to play them. : Evil Benius
    • depends on how atrociously the launch is handled : derelict515
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  1) The registration is bullshit, they don't verify emails so for lazy fuckers you can type gibberish if y... : Porkasaurus
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    Yea with Warhammer just about every beta tester agreed with the long delay for more time to rebuild. A... : shortbuscaptain
    • guilds can build cities ...the Shack could have it's own city : cptstern
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    Being an mmo veteran and having been in pretty much *every* beta over the last 10 years or so, I have to ... : mesabo
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      Gah, I don't want to hear this. :( I'll probably try it out anyways but that doesn't sound good at all... : stump
      • I *hate* these threads. Betaleak.com has the opinions of many people that were banned months ago, and ... : wykd
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      The problem is that these games are trying to toe-to-toe with WoW which is the most idiotic idea for any : Modica Sol Solis
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        I would argue that WAR is going for a much more PVP centric game, than WoW. I'd consider that a different... : Chunks
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          Much more PvP centric but not enough of a departure to stand apart from WoW. I have my doubts as to the e... : Modica Sol Solis
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            What? You can _level_ in WHO via PvP. That is a MAJOR departure from WoW. : wykd
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              You're still levelling. You're still in a very steampunk fantasy landscape. You're still running the same... : Modica Sol Solis
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                Huh? So how does that mean they're gunning towards WoW? Every single MMO will require you to level, to ... : wykd
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                  Maybe it's just me and my personal preferences. It's not enough of a departure from WoW in my eyes. In a ... : Modica Sol Solis
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                    What you're asking for would fail, and isn't what most people want. And you're acting as if leveling v... : wykd
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                      What I'm asking for certainly would not fail. It's not what the millions of WoW players would want, but i... : Modica Sol Solis
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                        the same amount of lore, depth, and richness to the world Wha? When I played EQ for a bit, I didn't s... : Arcanum
                        • Did you take on any of the quests or browse through the libraries and read the tomes? There is so much lo... : Modica Sol Solis
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                        Gameplay second, and world first? Huh? Yes exploring is fun, I loved it in Asheron's Call. But you're ... : wykd
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                          And by saying you're romanticizing EQ, I don't think you remember camping for a boss for 18 hours just to... : wykd
                          • This really isn't true. Both games have changed from their respective hay-days. I mean jesus, AC plays it... : Bantis
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                            It's conventions like that which I would remove from any game I created. That's not enjoyable. It stands : Modica Sol Solis
                            • The Elder Scrolls Online : Arcanum
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                              Lore is a fun thing to delve into periodically, but gameplay keeps players playing. A big empty world wi... : wykd
                              • when did anyone say anything about combat; you're trying to fit MMO's into this set mold, but that doesn'... : Bantis
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                                Exactly right. So the world I envision would not be empty, nor would it have a combat system that is mund... : Modica Sol Solis
                                • You'd really have to expand a hell of a lot on not being "mundane and plodding" for anybody to really buy... : FlatlineDixay
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                                  I would like to read it when you're done. One thing I loved about AC was the exploration aspect, and thi... : wykd
                                  • I absolutely *loved* the random loot generator. I really have no idea why other games haven't emulated i... : wykd
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                        You should talk to Topher : Tommy Toolbag
                        • Who is this...'Topher'? : Modica Sol Solis
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                      I disagree. What he wants would actually probably lead to financial success. A recipe for fail is m... : ease one
                      • You are spot-on. If you want to compete with WoW, you need Blizzard's name recognition, their capital, be... : Modica Sol Solis
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                    I'm not sure how you did it but you made about 4 posts in a row that are right on the money. MMO doesn... : Porkasaurus
                    • MMO criticism and debate are practically what I do for a living :P And I agree completely. The MMO mar : Modica Sol Solis
                  • In my opinion UO and SWG did this and IMO have been the "other", better MMO genre when they were released : razorblade79
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                Okay, if there is one thing to say here, it's that Warhammer was, by far, first with the steampunk fantas... : node
                • True, but not in the MMO scene. WoW came before it (and EQ long before that). : Modica Sol Solis
    • 1. have you played the game 2. how would an M rated game that appeals to a certain segment of the MMO pla... : cptstern
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  I don't think any game will launch as poorly as Vanguard, ever. You'll have to play this game and let ... : Modica Sol Solis
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    Also, Visc. Are you doing any work with MMOs currently? As in, are you involved with any projects or anyt... : Modica Sol Solis
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      Not really. I'm trying out my 30 free days with LOTRO but that's about it. I'm not actually working on an... : Visceral Monkey
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        I wish I had the credentials to get picked up as a writer for some MMO. Or that someone would give me the... : Modica Sol Solis
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          Write short stories, work an player made game world for rpgs, etc. These things help. As for starting a M... : Visceral Monkey
          • I know about how much it would cost to make the game I have in mind. It's an unfortunately large number. ... : Modica Sol Solis
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          if you, visc and others would grab NWN2 we could prototype your ideas in a small persistent world setting... : Bantis
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            With me, it's a time constraint issue. I have two kids, 4 and 2, and I literally have no time to do anyth... : Visceral Monkey
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              Visc, I will move in and be your child, then we can work on mmo's as you push me on the swing : Bantis
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                Haha., my wife would love that. "Yea honey, he's my love child from a college fling..." : Visceral Monkey
                • BUT DADDY HOW DO WE DEAL WITH CROSS ZONE AGRO?!?! : Bantis
          • and I still wish we would've gotten MMOJO going at an MMO commentary site, we all bitch way too much to n... : Bantis
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            I want to pick it up soon, when I get paid. By the end of the summer, I expect to be a published writer, ... : Modica Sol Solis
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              well you know how I feel Modica; I love working with you, you're the most creative guy I know. I think yo... : Bantis
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                I tell you what. My college schedule is light. All I do now is read, write, and occasionally go to class.... : Modica Sol Solis
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                  you know i'm there, and now I have a reason to renew the mmojo.net domain :P : Bantis
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                    I figure we can work on the module and then put up a consistent series of weekly updates on how the modul... : Modica Sol Solis
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                      i'd love to read it : Bantis
                      • Wow, this is a lot longer than I thought it would be! : Modica Sol Solis
                    • I really wish one of us would make it big so we could bring the others in and get rolling on this :P : Bantis
                • one of the community managers for Age of Conan was hired by funcom after he had created a NWN module for ... : cptstern
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        After two months of loving LOTRO my same problem is coming back. And I think its my same issue with WoW; ... : Bantis
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          What are you playing in FFXI? Dancer sounds fucking cool as hell, and I know Puppetmaster was awesome. I ... : Modica Sol Solis
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            I'm planning on going BLU/THF and probably try out Dancer. The more I look into Scholar, i'm actually imp... : Bantis
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              I don't know anything about Scholar, except that it uses some shit with the weather which is cool and all... : Modica Sol Solis
              • Well one thing that's irked me in a good way is SE REALLY seems to be listening to the players now; there... : Bantis
  • I think the open beta should tell us what we need to know. Hopefully. : Visceral Monkey
• I'll only try it out if there is a free trial. : deathofrats
• AoC is gonna 0wn : windowpane
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  while I agree that you dont need to adhere to an NDA the person who posted allthis does ..NDA is there fo... : cptstern
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    Well, I think that point was lost on them. : Visceral Monkey
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      I know but you're also posting that stuff ...I know you mean no harm but you're not really giving those w... : cptstern
      • It works both ways. If all the early impressions were really positive - I doubt many people would be a... : Porkasaurus
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  The only new MMO I care about is the WoD one. If anyone knows how to properly break the MMO mould, it's C... : node
  • The greatest MMO will come from a company like CCP who actually cares about depth and loves to try someth... : Bantis
• I'll buy it. It'll suck. I'll play for a month. I'll play in a year. I'll play in another 6 months, etc. ... : Bantis
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  When the hell is notd665 putting up his in-depth analysis for AoC? Wasn't it supposed to be a few days ag... : lightly inclined
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    He promised last night, I think he's full of poop. : wykd
    • He is totally full of poop. I dont even think he has seen the game but said he did for the shack's e-peni... : lythe
    • Hes pulling a funcom. : shortbuscaptain
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  Alright so I finished that writeup. It's huge. Three and some pages. I don't know if I can even post that... : Modica Sol Solis
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    pieces! better for discussion : Bantis
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      New thread? Or post it in this one. : Modica Sol Solis
      • new : wykd

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  definitely both. Bonus: My gf hates it, so i like to sing it to her. : mindmann
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    weird, my GF hates when we watch this series, too. : focusdaily
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      Get new girlfriends! Firefly was one of the best shows on TV in quite some time! : DianeOfTheMoon
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        Josh Wheddon is so fucking overrated. : disposition
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          The Firefly series isn't. : ifallible
          • I watched about half of it. While enjoyable, NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FUCKING ACT IN THAT SHOW EXCEPT THE PILO : disposition
      • oops. you're misunderstanding me. She loves firefly. We both love the series, and the movie. She just hat... : mindmann
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  Awful, only thing I don't like about the show. : sanchez
  • Joss Whedon: Great writer of shows, not so much for music. : Totenjaeger
  • Haha pretty much. : ieGod
• I couldn't stand it. Love Firefly, hated the theme. I would mute the opening credits. : newek
• It was written by Whedon as well. : cjcharv
• It wasn't bad lyrically or musically. A better singer would have helped, though. : BlackCat9
• haha i love it, sort of sounds like Jane doing the singing : fletch_
• Awesome. : Ebu
• I liked it, but it does seem off. : K1Bond007
• i like it : action roommate
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  I just watched the series run and movie over hulu last week. Really good show with great potential, su... : HojuSimpson
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    It's surprising that Whedon is even working with them on his next series. He even said he'd never work wi... : K1Bond007
    • TV networks change executives every few years. Whedon said the people at Fox aren't the same as when he ... : TwiLyght
• Speaking of which... Firely Blu-Ray is coming out! : Edges
• There are people who don't like it? I thought it was pure awesome. : hawke
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  I like it since it spawned the show, but am not a big fan of the song in and of itself. : Totenjaeger
  • Also at least he doesn't sing it like Chuck Norris. : Totenjaeger
• 100% awesome. : Omning
• Both, hate it, and yet I find myself humming along whenever it's on. : lightly inclined
• 1000% awesome. : slickdoody
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  i think it's as ridiculous as them using chinese swears (i.e. very) : electroly
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    Frack that! : Totenjaeger
    • the only thing worse than Firefly's swears is that fucking show Battlestar Galactica. every time they sa... : electroly
• Didn't like it at all at first, but it grew on me and now I can't help but hum it sometimes. : acheron
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  Different. Better than any generic orchestral crap most people would put in a sci-fi show. It was sup... : Rag and Bone Man
  • Kind of my feeling too. Didn't really like it musically, but it fit the theme of the show. : Arctic Fox
• not a fan but i can't imagine the show without it. : kenmis
• I liked the idea of it, but I never liked the song itself. : Home Nugget
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  it's both, at a certain point of fandom you begin to like it again I think... I know I do. : CrimsonHandHiro
  • like the enterprise theme :( : dantastic
  • I liked it by ep 2 : Ebu
• i thought it was hilarious in a bad way. probably why people turned the channel when it came on. who wa... : dantastic
• horrible but I caught myself singing it the other day :( : DonkeyPopsicle
• Awful just like the show. : Stage
• It been a long time.... Getting from here to there... or was that the other show? : Dynotaku
• Awesome. : Ride-My-Rocket
• It was awesome AFTER I decided I loved the show. So...I might of been swayed. : socksta
• awful : Mr.SEX
• I thought it was really off-putting at first, but it eventually won me over. The show would just seem wr... : action wombmate
• Pure awesome. : rmjackson
• Love it, so bittersweet. : ihya
• It's awesome but a room full of firefly fans singing it makes you want to commit suicide. : randomposter
• I like that show but the song sucks. : dltrem
• I love it. : DOOManiac
• I prefer "The Man They Call Jayne" : sm00v3d