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• Whats the min level? : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  I'd love to play, but I'm only level 10 :( : DianeOfTheMoon
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    anyone is welcome to come play if you want! : ]pm[chem
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      Please see my above post. I don't even have it yet. I don't want to get it and then play alone, though. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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        Oh, well. No one to play with. : Robotic Puppy Eater
        • I'll play with you if you pick it up. : DianeOfTheMoon
        • The game is fun by yourself, you gain levels quickly and can take your time listening about whats going o... : Nighteyes
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      Given the level distance, I think I'd be less useful than your wolves. : DianeOfTheMoon
      • Mule! : Ebu
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  How many points in wolves do you have? I have a nature hunter but I didn't like him due to his lack of A... : Nighteyes
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    No AOE is killing me. :[ : zanzares
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      I never understood why people say how hunter is so awesome and so DPS orientated when it can only kill on... : Nighteyes
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        I think Harbinger is better at dealing damage (especially across multiple enemies), but Haruspex (Hunting... : omnova
        • My Haruspex is one lethal dude. When I have all my damage add skills and auras stacked up Dream Stealer l... : Psigun
        • I'll find out how much my guy sucks once I start doing epic and legendary. While normal is just pure all... : Nighteyes
  • You need volley and scatter shot and you will aoe like mad : Umbr
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  I'd level up a bit before hitting the areas with tigermen and dragonians. Those dudes are fierce compared... : Psigun
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    seriously, difficulty doesn't scale evenly. my dude just moved into the immortal throne area, and it is l... : stgulik
    • Those Machea archers or whatever they are called are the worst. In normal I'd see those guys and just scr... : Psigun
    • yeah, the beginning of act 3 rapes, then you sort of catch up, then act 4 rapes even harder again with al... : derelict515
  • Fuck those dragonian lancers. They are going to rape my Oracle when I get there :( : moogle
• WOOOOOO! That was a blast. :D Got almost all the way thru Egypt before I had to go. : zanzares
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  Should I wait for Immortal Throne to finish downloading, or can I play as soon as TQ finishes? Another wa... : tashtego
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    Wait for IT. Warfare / Dreamer has mad powerful AOE damage. : zanzares
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      Dream Stealer and Temporal Rift win. At everything. I think Dream and any other mastery has a powerful bu... : Psigun
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        Does the TR +dmg% effect only the targetted monster, or all of the Dream Stealers aoe damage? : Nighteyes
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          pretty sure its all of it, its pretty much all you need along with distortion wave to take out everyone (... : derelict515
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            Dream stealer never seems to replenish my energy unless the mob is still alive? I'm always drinking ener... : Nighteyes
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              It procs energy leech, so the mob does indeed need to survive for it to take effect. I don't see the mana... : Psigun
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                That's what I found when I had a couple of weapons with life leech. You have to basically hit everyone i... : riptyde
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                  %dmg -> life > life leech : Nighteyes
                  • sad there is no %damage to energy :( some skills like the one in defence that procs a bit of regen on ene... : dooberzoo
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    Immortal Throne is pretty much better all around. No reason not to play it unless you have a friend who ... : deject
    • No doubt. It's like 10 dollars now. : Psigun
• Way early on in the game, like level 4 or so, I beat some big brute and he dropped this big club that I c... : riptyde
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  I finally got Immortal Throne, waltzed thru it once on Normal with my Slayer (who's actually in Legendary : AxeMan808
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    You can combine the relics/charms in your bag. Right click on one and click on another of the same type.... : Legacy679
    • Oh snap! Thanks, I didn't think of using them on each other! : AxeMan808
  • you can build relics by using them on the same type, right click a bat fang and click on another bat fang... : Nighteyes
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  end of night update: Another good night of fun! My nature/hunter is now L31, and we're somewhere in the : ]pm[chem
  • When Xen showed up none of us had to do anything! : dionex
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    My level 15 guy is currently all warfare, but I want to make him a warfare/dream guy - when should I star... : jbury
    • asap, when I hit 20 is when I had dream stealer either full or half specced (max it asap) even though yo... : Nighteyes
  • Once you get to the orient you'll definitely want some high Pierce and elemental resistance. I had to st : deject
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  I'm a bit confused -- is this just for people playing in the hardcore challenge, or anyone? : Kentor
  • I think anyone. : GodZilly
• will this game run acceptably on my laptop's GMA 950? : Supine

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• thanks bro didn't know I was getting married! : snuff
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  Who's the poor bastard who has to marry me? : Koral06
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    If no one else will I guess I will :/ : dognose
    • Naw, I got it. Don't worry about it. : yoonix
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      I'll vouch for him. : Githyanki
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        You shouldn't, don't I owe you some money? :( : dognose
        • If I get you married, its all repaid. : Githyanki
  • *crickets* : Jumperus
  • should of gone with the rich bastard : shavenewok
  • Sup? : Rauol Duke
  • How YOU doin? : ejectorpod
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16488821 : H@rvester
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      I'm still waiting for those refrences. : Koral06
      • i'll be a shackreference. harvester is definitely a moron. : mXENO
      • i will be a shackreference also. harvester has the prettiest blue eyes a girl could ever see. : lakren
      • Harvester saved my life back in the war : sparkly
      • Harvester carried my baby for me in his abdominal cavity: http://www.malepregnancy.com/science/images/... : ForkingAxle
      • Harvester wants your organs : Magus
      • Harvester raped my father and killed my mother. : deject
      • Harvester is constantly cruel and verbally abusive : AlexXdude
      • Harvester had sex with my wife. : ejectorpod
      • H@rvester can build a sentry gun. Anywhere. : thief
      • Harvester taught me how to love again : veras
      • Harvester had me at hello. : Xhost
      • Harvester does not fear the reaper. : ChibiJosh
      • Harvester saved my life at the Battle of cp_well. : nyranger66
      • Harvester will take your arm and just keep on harvesting. : rasputinreborn
      • Harvester knows what time it is. : Mmmmmoo
      • H@rvester rescued orphans from a orphange that was on fire, which he lit : shavenewok
      • H@rvester found hopkin green frog : sticman77
      • Harvester works at Firestone : Optimus Prime
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        Harvester makes his Hollandaise sauce fresh : Unleashed
        • lol : thewriter
      • Harvester recognizes failed mis-posts :( : Malku
      • H@rverster was the only one to build a dispenser here. : Nighteyes
      • Harvester explained to me the difference between a tractor and a harvester. : ant_hillbilly
      • H@rvester is the only person I've never backstabbed, nor could backstab. I'm posting again to say that N : thief
      • H@rvester once made a balloon sculpture of Wrigley Field, to scale. : PlanetPerfecto
      • Harvester is firebone : RikiTiki2
      • H@rvester has a miniature-sized enormous wang. : Galadriel07
      • Harvester had 4 children: Tupac, Moses, Florida and Candy Man : mista mista
      • H@rvester was at my front door. : Visceral Monkey
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        Harvester saved the Mushroom Kingdom after rescuing Mario and Luigi from certain death : Lightbulb
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          What about the Princess? : sanchez
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            H@rvester knew she was in another castle. : Bold
            • lol : zerog83
      • H@rvester puts his hands in the air like he just doesn't care : Daochi
      • Harvester engineer is Harvesting. : smax
      • H@rvester ate my balls (circa 1996) : burgertime
      • H@rvester now knows not to ask the shack for references. : Perturbation
      • H@rvester is always hard like the Boyz in the Hood : snagger
      • H@rvester loves to cook. : MatzL.E.
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        H@rvester is a hero in Kvatch. : GodZilly
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          H@rvester should get out of here STALKER! : TShandy
          • H@rvester must gather his party before venturing forth. : Tissen
      • H@rvester kept my fathers watch in his butt : Slowtreme
      • Harvester pisses battery acid! : Rice-Rocketeer
      • H@rvester eats barbed wire and shits razorblades! : Rotten Deadite
      • H@rvester stayed a while AND listened. : critch
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      H@rvester is a Mormon! : Malku
      • H@rvester is a Moran! : lodit
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      Harvester harvests the fuck out. of shit. Goddamn. : TastyWheat
      • Just look at H@arvester. Fuck. He will fucking marry your damn ass. : CapnChaos
    • H@rvester does it like south central L.A. : Juno
    • With H@rvester's powers combined : shavenewok
  • I will! lol jk tubby : SockMonkeh
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    Pics first. I never buy any merchandise sight unseen. : coldfusioncs
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      FUCK. I just bought it accidentally. :-( : coldfusioncs
      • That's okay, only returns over $50 require a mailed check from corporate. : Jumperus
    • H@rvester made me mis-reply!!! fuck! : slip42o
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    My earwax smells like subway. You can be in charge of that. : losder5000
    • eat fresh : Spezzer
  • Is Iowa getting warmer yet? : pwnage1232
  • Gap? : nyranger66
  • are you still feeling emo : AlexXdude
  • You're in Cali now? Geez, you are moving around a lot. : Frozen Pixel
• dont marry me bro! : klearlyunseen

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  Wow, not much IMO. And it IS very opinion based. Consult this for leads : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Va... : Vangoghs Ear
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    Man is there a list of EVERYTHING on wikipedia? :( : SpaecKow
    • List of things without a list on wikipedia? : bostrov
• I am legend is based on vampire like creatures, other than that its been pretty quiet out there. : jasoncrowley
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  Define good? I generally like anything about vampires no matter how bad it really is. Ultraviolet... : InfoBiter
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    There are a number of good vampire movies in the sense of "quality" The Hunger, besides Blade and Intervi... : SpaecKow
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      Oh yeah, I was just going off the top of my head, and I am profoundly aware that my sense of "good" is ex... : InfoBiter
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        Oh man Dracula 3000? This sounds awesome, I know a mate who would fuckin LOVE that movie. : SpaecKow
        • If you like that kind of thing it really is amazing in it's terribleness. Reminiscent of Leprechaun in ... : InfoBiter
• As for older movies check out this lesser-known title - Thirst (1979) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080016... : Vangoghs Ear
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  Turn off your brain and watch the Underworld movies. At worst you get to look at Kate Beckinsale wearing ... : Prozium
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    Also checkout Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter for some awesome lols. It's available for instant viewing on ne... : Prozium
    • <3 filmed here in Ottawa! : Postal
  • And mostly nekkid in the second one! I liked these, too, for some good mostly brainless vampire action. ... : action wombmate
  • I found the first Underworld movie to be suprisiningly viewable. : Sexpansion Pack
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  From dusk till dawn. : klearlyunseen
  • I agree with this post. : prince cinnamon boots
  • finally I found this post. I was getting worried. Bordello of Blood wtf. : focusdaily
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    Blech : TShandy
    • indeed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd3iTnNL8o : stgulik
• The Breed http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265104/ with Adrian Paul, Bokeem Woodbine, and Bai Ling. It had... : AxeMan808
• hahaha, off a hunch I found this for you "Bride of Dracula" NWS http://www.youjizz.com/videos/bride-... : InfoBiter
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  Get high and watch Underworld and the sequel. It's great if you're high. : SockMonkeh
  • Have you ever watched Underworld... on WEED? : zerog83
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  Children of the Night - Mercedes Lackey : geedeck
  • Oh movie. Oops : geedeck
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  30 Days of Night : mmaster_pw
  • ugh! that movie sucked almost as bad as the comic. : kenmis
  • i'm going to agree with that regardles of what kenmis says. those vamps were badass. lolz crosses : dantastic
  • Movie was awesome. : Pettytheft
  • I enjoyed it : jonin
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  I Am Legend : Korban
  • ^^^ comes out today. : changejar419
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  The Lost Boys. Buffy. and the one where that whole team of guys hunts vampires in the deserts. : radula
  • Near Dark : connor
• I thought Underworld was good fun : phate81
• My favorite is still the first Blade ... : mystifier
• While anything but good, there is Embrace of the Vampire. At least you get to see Alyssa Milano at her b... : gendail
• Vampire Hunter D can be fun. : c0bra
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  how has no one mentioned 30 days of night. It's awesome. : marmite
  • epic fail. : marmite

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• Book of Revelation : Deathlove
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  oh and also World War Z, Ult-Zom-Survivor Guide, and The Cell by stephen king : proclone1
  • and Margaret Atwood's Oryx & Crake : proclone1
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  Canticle for Lebowitz : thewriter
  • One of my favorites. : Koral06
  • Another vote here. : jason bergman
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  1984, it's sort of like a political apocalypse : skizl
  • read it but thank you for the submission! Oh and also Fahrenheit 451 : proclone1
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  Swan Song - Robert McCammon : dognose
  • I second this. Fantastic book. : Head Rush
  • Supermarket of DOOM! : erebus
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  I am Legend. : Jumperus
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    read it as well as Earth Abides. Dognose, Swan Song isn't a cheap hack on The Stand, is it? : proclone1
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      No, it's not, though it has unfairly been called that. A cheap hack on The Stand is Dark Advent by Brian... : dognose
      • alright thank you! Will have to check it out. Wish more publishers would get on board with Sony & now A... : proclone1
• well shoot... couldn't find Swan Song on Sony's e-reader store, will read Fight Club instead : ( Thanks... : proclone1
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  On a related subject, If one has never read any Lovecraft where would be a good start? Which books are t... : jayares
  • I'd read his short stories first! : thief
  • Personally I don't think it matters if you read any Cthuluhuthu stuff in any particular order. I'd just t... : NastyJack
  • At the Mountains of Madness is a good entry point in that it is one of the longer stories and also one of... : Psigun
• obligatory good omens. : thief
• lucifer's hammer : hamachi
• http://www.amazon.com/Blindness-Harvest-Book-Jose-Saramago/dp/0156007754/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&... : racer5
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  I've got Childhoods End in my jacket pocket right now! Very cool book but I love all of Clarkes stuff pre... : NastyJack
  • Clarke is orthogonal to Bradbury in his style - he takes Space Age romanticism and runs with it along a l... : eldersveld
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  The Dark Tower Series is Stephen King's sort of literary apocalypse, except also the real world too someh... : quadeh
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    i'm on book 5 of this and wtf? :| : mwasher
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      wtf wtf? : Deathlove
      • the book is all wtf? honestly tho, i'm kinda getting tired of stephen king's writing (as i always t... : mwasher
• Blindness by Jose Saramago : Trips
• Earth Abides is good. So is Alas Babylon. Also On the Beach. Canticle for Lebowitz has already been me... : randomjgj
• "The Bobble Wars" by Vernor Vinge (contained in various books and stories), "And The Devil Will Drag You ... : AxeMan808
• China Mieville - "Looking for Jake" and "The Tain" They're short stories, but very good. Hal Duncan - Ve : Perturbation
• The Making of the Atomic Bomb I can't recommend this book enough: http://www.amazon.com/Making-Atomic-... : reelbk
• The Talisman by Stephen King and Peter Struab. It was the book that made me realize that by god! There... : Malku
• Freedoms Landing was great fun (anne mccaffrey). This falls into the general calamity category. : xZanU
• Friday by Heilein. It's not his best work, but good nonetheless. It's more post apoc. : Freon
• Lucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven/Jerry Pournell : rt702

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  Tehol and Bugg fucking rock. I love them to no end. And when Bugg finally uses his powers in a rage, oh : Visceral Monkey
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    I'm not sure. I have trouble keeping all the facts and characters and places straight in my mind for this : Psigun
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      Yea, that's his warren. I'm thinking the crushed tiste body another group found washed up was the body of : Visceral Monkey
      • I love how the 'schools' of magic are all physical places that can be entered and traveled through, creat : Psigun
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  Tehol and Bugg were fantastic. Maybe my favorite characters... although I'm fond of Karsa Orlong and Tool... : Goncyn
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    Those are all favorites of mine too. The Karsa Orlong novel (really, it could have been a standalone nove... : Psigun
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      Karsa Orlong is pretty cool. I'm also a fan of Anomander Rake, even though he doesn't show up all that o... : Arcanum
      • Ah yes. The Bridgeburners. I admit I cried a little when the Bridgeburners all died assaulting Coral... t : Goncyn
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  I love those books. Midnight Tides was also hard for me to get into, but as soon as Tehol and Bugg came a : Magus
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    I was hyped to start reading The Bonehunters and Reaper's Gale but they aren't out in mass market paperba... : Psigun
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      I commend you on your patience. I spring for the UK or CA versions because I can't wait and the cover art... : smoove
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        Is amazon.co.uk the best place to get the U.K. or Canadian copies? I can't wait. :( : Psigun
        • Yeah, amazon.co.uk gets them first, and the Canadian edition gets released a few weeks later if you can w... : smoove
• Oh also read the Black Company books if you haven't already. They're similar in atmosphere but have far f... : Magus
• Tehol and Bugg are champs. They were so good. That was the slowest book for me and also the most memorabl... : te[R]ror
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  The local bookstore had Hardcover copies of Gardens of the Moon going for $6, so I bought a couple copies... : Vantage
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    I gave almost the entire series in hardback to suicidemachine a few years back as a WE. I don't think he ... : Visceral Monkey
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      I'm going to have to pony up and get the series in hardcover eventually. Unfortunately, the ones I just ... : Vantage
      • http://www.subterraneanpress.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=erikson&Category_Code=PRE... : Magus
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    I just picked up Passage at Arms yesterday, it's supposed to be excellent. But next on my list is A Cruel : Magus
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      My brother just emailed me from overseas bitching about the lack of Return of the Crimson Guard. I don't ... : Visceral Monkey
      • Pat's Fantasy Hotlist just recently had a giveaway of an Advanced Reading Copy from PS Publishing. It's c... : Magus
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  I keep hearing about this series. The last Fantasy series I read was R.R Martins. He is starting to get J... : Pettytheft
  • that fuck is really pissing me off, he goes on so many god damn tours and cheeseburger binges he never ta... : spaceless
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    Honestly I don't think they are much like GRRM at all except in that they are also epic in scope. Malazan... : Psigun
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      "The magic system present is extremely unique, based around parallel dimensions called warrens that can b... : spaceless
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        Never heard of it, any good? : Psigun
        • yea, the first story arc was pretty badass, the second not as much but still fun : spaceless
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          Oh yes. Very much goodness. Roger Z is much missed... : randomjgj
          • my favorite author of all time. I really enjoy his style. You can pick up the Complete Amber in one volum... : Old_Fart
  • i have no idea how martin is getting jordaneqsue/goodkindlike in his writing. : lakren
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    Read The Black Company by Glen Cook. If you like that tone then move onto the Malazan books, but if you d... : Magus
    • Erikson does have more going on than Martin, but he also finishes things up faster. Martin has a lot more... : Psigun
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  It ends up surprisingly well. I liked that whole region even more when it's revisited, although some of ... : brickmatt
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    Reaper's Gale spoilers: The death of Redmask really confused me. For one we have no idea why he died, or : Magus
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      That's exactly the wtf plotline I was talking about. I was so confused when that happened. And omg they : brickmatt
      • Oh, I remember his name now: Toc the Younger. Poor dude. =( : brickmatt
    • I think it wasn't him and he bailed somehow when the tides turned, but that's confusing at the least unle : brickmatt
    • That part made no sense to me. I must have gone over it 2-3 times and walked away still going "WTF". : Visceral Monkey
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      I haven't read Gale yet but I did catch one big spoiler while I was Wiki-delving accidentally: Trull Seng : Psigun
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        I am so fucking upset about the way that went down that wtf wtf wtf angry. : brickmatt
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          Haha, don't worry about it. He'll just come back from the dead.They...always come back.. : Visceral Monkey
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            It's starting to look that way. :( : Magus
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              That's the huge downside, actually. Where's my WhiskeyJack? =( : brickmatt
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                That one I can answer as Erikson has said of him: He's not coming back. : Visceral Monkey
                • I use too many red tags. : Visceral Monkey
                • I'm fine with that, but I don't get why him vs everyone else. : brickmatt
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  I just started Deadhouse Gates ... it's not holding my attention near as well as the first novel did (whi... : InfoBiter
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    Every one of the novels (except the first, since it just drops you into things), has a pretty lengthy set... : brickmatt
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      Good to know, the one thing that bothered me about the first was the way it kinda ended abruptly (now, I ... : InfoBiter
      • You may go some time before seeing your favorite characters from each book again. Most likely you will se... : Psigun
  • Really? I mean, really? How did you read the DG prologue and not be blown away at how awesome it was? : Magus
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  Midnight Tides is my favorite book in the series. Bugg and Tehol are his best characters : wtf242
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    well except for Karsa of course. : wtf242
    • Icarium. Karsa. Two titans enter one titan leaves. : boring gegtik
• You people being ahead of me in that series.... :( I just started Memories of Ice last night and I'm : Grumbeld
• I'm going to have to check out this series. I've heard too much about it to look it over. : afrochops

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  He's pretty much right. : pancake humper
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    Yea. I didn't realize they were going to be crap quality mp3s, or maybe I missed the fine print. : c0bra
    • No fine print, they just didn't say. : pyrogen
    • Same here. Granted I think the material is better than Reznor's, there's no way in hell I would have paid... : smoove
  • IAWTP : pixelat3d
• I pretty much agree with him, although I love my In Rainbows discbox. : pyrogen
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  good thing i paid $2 for the download : hobosapien
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    good thing i put 0 dollars in the box and got a free download : dantastic
    • same here : OmegaRed59
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  his way was the right way to do it IMO. : mrsparil
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    Yeah I'm glad that FLAC was an option. Storage is so cheap now that lossless audio is actually a viable o... : ErikTehRed
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      If you're a casual music listener I guess, maybe. : the city
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        What do you mean? : ArB
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          If you are a pirate with thousands of albums, it doesn't work well. : Afterglow
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            even then I just got a 500GB drive for about $100, it's pretty cheap to get tons of storage. : ErikTehRed
            • You can pay for it with all the money you save stealing music. : SockMonkeh
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              If you're comfortable spending 100 dollar to store what amounts to a ridiculously small amount of songs r... : the city
              • I'm 32 and I can tell the difference between most FLAC and MP3 offerings :( To me its like the diffe... : jasoncrowley
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            Not necessarily. I listen to a lot of music, and the number of legitimately bought albums I buy each mon... : the city
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              You can fit over 1500 hours worth of losslessly compressed music on a $100, 500GB HD. Sure, it would ... : pyrogen
              • Well, then I guess portable players becomes my issue really. I doubt the difference would be noticeable ... : the city
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                most people like to do more with a 500gb harddrive than just store their music collection. I don't want t... : derelict515
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                  How many people's music collection is 1500 hours long? And if you don't want to have multiple hard d... : pyrogen
                  • :( Any music lover over the age of driving lessons? I still have CD's and vinyl that I've owned sin... : jasoncrowley
                • Anyone with that much music probably cares enough to rip it properly (read: in a lossless format) so that... : Helter Skelter
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              Me too. I couldn't possibly put all my albums to lossless without dishing out for some gigantic new HD's. : NastyJack
              • Yeah me neither, and considering you can make great quality lossy music now days I don't see any reason t... : OmegaRed59
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            All I need is my NKOTB CDs and I'm set. : ArB
            • Step by step, ewwwww baby! : razorblade79
• From what I know of the situation I think he's right. : NastyJack
• I agree, it was pretty lame of them. : datoo
• waaaahhhh, they said they were first but they weren't really first, i'm first! : pointyelbows
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  I have to think the fallout from Radiohead's approach must have informed Trent's decision to offer so man... : Home Nugget
  • trent has been talking about doing something like this for quite a while, he just couldn't do it until he... : MagicWishMonkey
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  If Reznor has released his before Radiohead (in other words, had he not been able to watch the "backlash"... : coldfusioncs
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    He had been talking about doing an online release long before Radiohead released 'In Rainbows'. And you ... : wykd
    • Yeah, under mp3 it was basically like "if you don't know shit about computers or audio pick this one" : ErikTehRed
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    Trent is pretty damn savvy about this stuff so I would assume he would have given people FLAC or at least... : Nighteyes
    • The implication was always there that Radiohead would release a physical CD--anybody who cared anything a... : coldfusioncs
• just get an HQ rip if you paid for it. Not hard to find. : aeg1x
• Reznor speaks truth. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  HOw is the instrumental cd btw? : dilutedq
  • Excellent : wykd
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    like sex. but without a vagina. or the mess. : mwasher
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      so um jerking off without the climax? Yeah, sounds like new NIN to me. : skinlab133
      • touche. : mwasher
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    pretty decent... I think the chief complaint - if there was one - is that the tracks start going somepla... : dedgecko
    • F'ing SIGNED : lowayne
  • I love it. : lplasmatron
  • Okay. More like background music. Was hoping for more The Fragile instrumentals. : pap26
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    I think it's creative and inspiring. I've only listened through the entire collection a few times now, b... : cryptical
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      I got the first free tracks (Ghosts I IIRC), how are the rest? Same, better, worse? : OmegaRed59
      • All three at different times. : pyrogen
      • about the same, but still worth listening too I think : cryptical
  • I like my music a little more structured, but not bad. : pyrogen
  • Ignorable, but there's some interesting moments. : tomservo
  • i've listened through the whole thing 3 or 4 times now and i really like it some of it is very atmosph... : grendel
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    i havent been into NIN since high school like six years ago but i really really enjoyed ghosts. i almost... : arizona bay
    • why would you feel embarrassed to listen to good music...? : mwasher
• If you forget Radiohead's marketing for a second, all they did was offer mp3 recordings of their newest a... : silent prophet
• Disagree completely. I'm quite happy with my recent experience. Trent is a smart guy though and makes som... : PlanetPerfecto
• im siding with trent reznor : arizona bay
• Fuck em. : Q-ball
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  Ghosts > Rainbows : BulletPro
  • your opinion > majority : cpt. ken
• This seems like Zack Morris(Radiohead) & Slater(NIN) fighting over Kelly Capowski. : prince cinnamon boots
• He's right, and they're taking him out of context slightly. He went on to say that he still respects the ... : nudel
• How can you not agree with what he said. Radiohead offered the name your price download (which was awesom... : tension

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• I wouldn't just take $1k. If you've got proper documentation you should be able to easily show you did $1... : zakk
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  Just accept the $1k and tell them the other $9k is net 30 days. : electroly
  • Yup--best strat. : Merconium
• Do you provide invoicing options like net 30 or net 60? : action roommate
• Wow. You know your line of work best, so if you decide to accept only $1k, that's your call. However, a : TShandy
• ??????? are you seriously asking if you should settle for 1/10 of your agreed upon pay? yeah sure, don... : MikkleThePickle
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  Just curious but what is with the massive discrepancy in the first place? wasn't a budget established at ... : NoCopy
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    They originally paid me a lump sum. The contract expired and I've still been doing work for them for mont... : wtf242
    • you need to put clients like that on a maintenance retainer. And since you slacked on the billing, you... : action roommate
    • Well in that case, I would suggest talking to them about a compromise with some sort of middle ground inv... : NoCopy
• It depends on how important they are to you, but a client that can only come up with $1k on a >$10k job i... : bostrov
• You certainly shouldn't just accept the $1000; doing that will pretty much guarantee a future of being co... : Conan
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  Lawyer. : nomaad
  • at least a strongly worded letter from one : RikiTiki2
• I am in a similar situation but for much less money . I am not sure what I am going to do. Drastic action... : prince cinnamon boots
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  compromise? while you could take the $1000 in order to keep them happy, they could potentially go and tel... : erotic sock
  • I really don't think there would ever be a scenario where said company would tell other companies that th... : prince cinnamon boots
• Sounds like the best move for you is to accept as much as they are willing to pay you so that you keep th... : protozone
• Explain to them what you just explained to us. Stand by your amount. : industro
• designers are notoriously bad businesspeople and businesses will take advantage of this as often as they ... : Supine
• When I was in my senior year of high school, I took A+ Computer Maintenance Classes with a guy that I had... : coraldayton
• When we do work like that, we do it in "chunks" and make the customer give us a PO ahead of time. So the ... : tashtego
• dude, can i borrow some money please. I'll uuhhh pay you back 10%! : papaskot
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  This is the kind of shit that has kept me away from free lance work. I have no idea what I would do. : afrochops
  • do like any other business, use contracts and estimates and invoices and shit? : papaskot
• Fuck that. You did the work they requested. Being surprised that the invoice is 10x more than they expe... : ThomW
• Ask for the $10k, I would not accept 10% pay for any reason whatsoever. : arizona bay
• invoice should say something about late penalties. DO NOT GIVE THEM 9K FOR FREE do businesses usually... : dantastic
• You don't want to burn a bridge of a customer that wants to short you 9000 bucks? I would : Slowtreme
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  Why in the hell would you do 10 grand worth of work without clearing it with the customer? FIRST RUL... : jasonepowell
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    because even when you tell the customer, "I charge 100 dollars per hour". And then you tell them, "This ... : BingusLargus
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      I have never had an issue with a customer not paying (assuming we did the work with no extant problems), ... : jasonepowell
      • My very first client was the guy who talked me into going out on my own. He and I had had long discussio... : BingusLargus
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  Put them on a payment plan with points like the mod does : Omning
  • mob : Slowtreme

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  Holy crap, congrats again! Of course he'd marry a nerd like the rest of us. : spazzium
  • Thanks! : Aimee Gibson
• It was such a cool and original wedding. I hope you two grow old and game forever. : handofthrawn
• I didn't get a chance to say this before, congrats! : ejectorpod
• Wow, congrats. I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Worlds colliding and all that ;) : carnivore
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  My gf only plays Peggle :( : dearjamie
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    You should probably dump her :( : Aimee Gibson
    • Awesome : carnivore
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      Yeah, she's definitely one of us. : spazzium
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        she bagged faylor in her first post, of course she is one of us : shavenewok
        • She made sTeve watch the Saw movies. She is awesome :) : dognose
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      Peggle is awesome :( : dognose
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        It's a girl game. I like it too :( : Githyanki
        • I got your girl game >:( : dognose
      • Peggle is awesome...just not as awesome as TF2. : DianeOfTheMoon
      • If I leave out WoW, the games I play the most these days are Peggle, Astropop, Zuma, and Puzzle Quest. : Pettytheft
    • Haha, you've been lurking a while or Steve is prompting you. : crummynz
    • I know it's kind of stupid at this stage but STEVE MARRY THIS GIRL : TastyWheat
    • This is where I would propose to you, if the Gibson hadn't stolen my thunder... : edlin
    • haha : qu1nton
    • hahah, perfect! : d fluke
• congrats! : Jayx77
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  congrats to the Gibsons : NastyNorman
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    Is it Gib or Jib? : Q-ball
    • Either way it doesn't matter, Congrats! : Q-ball
    • gib : spazzium
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  Congrats Aimee (& Steve).. It feels pretty cool to post with your new name doesn't it :-D : themelon
  • by the way, MrsMelon posted that. : themelon
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    yes it is still tryin to get used to it : Aimee Gibson
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      As a kid, I always found the name-change kind of shocking and wondered why women didn't just revolt en ma... : eldersveld
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        As a kid I thought that testicles were a man's sperm...he only had two and so he could only have two kids... : Vorlonesque
        • looooool : OrkO
        • When normal kids were watching kids shows, WTF WERE YOU WATCHING!? : GodZilly
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      wait a second. who were you before? : carnivore
      • That would be classified information :) : Aimee Gibson
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    What was her old name? : TastyWheat
    • Maartina Goldstein : aeg1x
• give him a kick in the nuts for us :) Congrats! : dignan
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  true gamers play TF2 with us! : lakren
  • Agreed! : .frame
• Hi! My name is dognose! Welcome to The Shack! :D : dognose
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  Hello Aimee Gibson. Also, congratulations on being married! If you EVER see Steve carrying any servers... : PlanetPerfecto
  • I promise : Aimee Gibson
• Hugsband hahahaha. : omnova
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  Hi ! Do you play TF2 ? : sikander
  • Haven't had time but planning to now that the wedding is over. : Aimee Gibson
• Hi Aimee :D Watch out for Steve! He is known as "Captain Grabby Hands" around here when he drinks. : tomservo
• Awesome and congratulations! Make sure you don't let sTeve get the quad. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  MY HUSBAND : dognose
  • hahahahaha : tomservo
  • ok dognose i forgive you for the shoot 'em up thing. i can't stay mad at you : Deathlove
• Congratulations to the happy couple. Sounds like the perfect wedding, really. : Thresher
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  Get your hands on his password and ILTC him. : SockMonkeh
  • This is how we'll know she's truly a shacker. Until then it's just talk. : jason bergman
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    actually that would be too easy since I know his password : Aimee Gibson
    • GO FOR IT, GIRL!! >:D : Maddog_Delphi97
    • I love the cock him on the Front Page : Crimsonbeak
• Congrats!!! : sgtsanity
• Insulting Faylor with her first post. She's a natural. : slax0r
• It's FAIYLOR :D congrats! : deject
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  Hugsband? LOLZ!! Welcome to the Shack. Enjoy the pudding. : MurrayTheSkull
  • hugsband is great, i always get told off for getting drunk and talking like a girl :( congrats guys! : even4
• Congrats! : mancide
• what? who? when (ok, I found Shugamom's post now). I stop Shacking for part of a day and I miss this... : mrwolf710
• Not just girlie games either like Faylor with his Peggle. Hahaha Yer definitely awesome, as proven by ... : Solstice
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  STEVE: RULE #1 OF THE SHACK : sexninja!!!!
  • (how many times does Ajax need to warn us???) : sexninja!!!!
• Congratulations!! You fools!!! : randomjgj
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  I for one welcome our new Gibson. : NFXFSX
  • Overlord. : Q-ball
• congrats to both of you! : MikkleThePickle
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  Holy crap, of all the days for me to not be F5ing the Shack every 15 minutes... CONGRATULATIONS STEVE AND... : Bean
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    you didn't see the megathread in FP earlier? : RikiTiki2
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      No, RikiTiki2. I didn't even get here today until after ER was up. : Bean
      • I have since found said megathread and caught myself up. : Bean
• Glad to have you, Mrs. Gibson. Hope to see you around often! : felicia
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  Worlds are Colliding, Congratulations! : thekidd
  • You're KILLING Independent Steve! Congrats to the both of you! (a Steve, divided against himself, canno... : AxeMan808
• Best first post ever. : mittense
• Congratulations : Havoc1c4
• Coming out swinging! Nice! : pwnage1232
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  congrats. Enjoy the happy first two years until the grating and the nagging and bitching and moaning star... : Fredrik S
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    True I will get rid of him if he starts bitching and nagging :) : Aimee Gibson
    • good for you. :) : Fredrik S
• Thats awesome, congrats! : Warmaker
• You are the winner! You have won a Steve! : losder5000
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  Congrats! Have you posted under a different account on the Shack before? : DrWaffles
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    no, she hasnt. when she found out what i do for a living she cried. :( : Steve Gibson
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      You should have just told her you ran porn websites, probably would have been more respectable and easier... : zakk
      • this place used to practically be a porn site every now and then. long live the babehunt : RikiTiki2
• Congratulations, make him your bitch : Magus
• lol hugsband. what games do you play? also: congrats again! : Mmmmmoo
• Whoa whoa whoa! Did she just insult my Peggle? Look, if any of those games you play have multiplayer...... : ImageOmega
• congrats! So maybe we'll see you post more around here? : mindmann
• omg if you have children we can call them giblets!!! or gibs :) and congrats :) : but why
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  Does Steve shave his genitals? : xZanU
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    ahahaha jesus : thewriter
    • I've been drinking, it is leprechaun day. : xZanU
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    I believe that there is a separate shack email for questions about Steve's junk : Aimee Gibson
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      stevesjunk@tinyurl.com ? : Jumperus
      • lol : TrptJim
    • yogaboy@shacknews.com ? : SinistarX
  • lol : ThomW
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  I'm jealous. I was hoping to be Pigvomit Gibson one day. :( Congratulations! : pigvomit
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    would you like Haiku to make it so we all have Gibson after our usernames? : shavenewok
    • That would be one hell of a way to commemorate this occasion. : TastyWheat
• Congrats. Whatever you do, don't change your filter settings. : Fred Garvin
• Let me add my congratulations to the thread. : mtgDoofy
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  Wow, your sleeping with the dude and he can't even hook you up with a mercury account. Wtf Steve? : skitzo
  • Congrats btw. : skitzo
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    He told me that I would have to pay like everyone else : Aimee Gibson
    • Fat chicks need love too...but they gotta pay! This was just a joke. I swear. Seriously. Don't ban me, : Jumperus
    • Thats why I haven't got one yet either. :( : skitzo
  • he's saving that for the "of course you're right; i'm sorry" argument that'll soon follow. : j0nchan
• Congrats and welcome to the shack family. : adodric
• Joy to all that is crunchy ans shack related! Seriously good for you :D : Malku
• w00t something else to toast! I can probably make up a story about you two on the spot also! been drin... : Downforce
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  Congrats, I didn't know Steve got married. You guys have been together for a long time? How long have y... : phipple
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    We met about a year and a half ago. : Aimee Gibson
    • Well, I wish you guys the best of luck! : phipple
• I don't shack at work for one day and miss something huge like this. Congratulations Aimee and Steve. : ohhjebus
• You should know... Steve got me pregnant when I was 16 : Juno
• does he call you AimBot? : Dave-A
• oh great another girl thread. : maulla
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  Congrats to you both. So can you finally tell me what steve means when he says "I'm gonna go hax the gibs... : DarkWolf5
  • umm no : Aimee Gibson
• Congrats to you both! :) : Shadowdane
• giggity gig! : Jiven
• congrats. on a side note, ive been reading teh shack since 96 (when it was a quake page thing) and I've g... : Antilles_Prime
• Hah cool. I missed the original post, CONGRATS!!! =) : tfboc
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  Haha, I see you are a natural, Mrs. Gibson. He has taught you well, and I look forward to sparring with y... : Chris Faylor
  • http://www.shacknews.com/images/steve/aimee5.jpg hahahahaha, nice reply faylor! : even4
• congratulations from jokemon1! : jokemon
• grats, you crazy kids : smax
• Grats to the both of you! I look forward to the divorce when you get half and the shack becomes decorated : boarder2
• wtf, i spend the day locked away doing editing and I find this.....I get one chatty behind and the world ... : smacknca
• congrats! does he complete you or is it the other way around : busdriver3030
• wow 'grats kids! no way am i reading all these replies, so i'll probably just be repeating this : synack
• Welcome! :) : Sylvanus
• congrats to the gibsonz0rs! : Wiley Animagus
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  Grats! Can your kid be named Phil? Having a little Phil Gibson somewhere would be like the Luke Skywalker... : royalally
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    They should name their kid guitar, that way when he goes to school, his transcripts will read Gibson, Gui... : skitzo
    • lmao awesome : royalally
    • I would watch this movie. Several times. : Lightbulb
  • I cannot teach him. The boy has no pants. : DarkWolf5
• Congratz on the nuptials, posting, gaming and totally owning Faylor in your first post. You're a keeper... : Lightzout
• HI2U : filthysock
• Congrats, Aimee! : Maddog_Delphi97
• Congrats and welcome! Sounds like you're very similar :P : TastyWheat
• sup : Home Nugget
• you have to tell us your most favorite game ever so we can properly judge your character based on your de... : eeeealmo
• Congrats : Umbr
• Welcome. And I like how you managed to dis on Faylor in your inaugural post :) : afrochops
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  surely, there must be wedding pix+divx? : steelsamurai
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    those are in shugamom's +INF'd monster post about it from this morning's chatty. search for it. : Bean
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16505762#itemanchor_16505762 : Maddog_Delphi97
• whoah, worlds colliding. : boomstickah
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  Yay! Congrats! You two look cute together! I'm using '!' way more then normal! This pics make it look... : Frozen Pixel
  • oops, I meant to link http://www.shacknews.com/images/steve/wedding/wedding17.jpg as the pic I was ta... : Frozen Pixel
• Its all uphill from here! : Rich McNinch
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  Now I know who wears the pants in your family! PS, I thought your dress was beautiful. really, one of the : hirez
  • I agree. It was a very pretty dress. :D : Galadriel07
• Congrats! This is going to be interesting. : Begawkiness
• Welcome!! You seem like a really cool person and I'm glad that Steve found you/you found Steve. : edlin
• Welcome!! Good luck posting here. You should know that if you mention boobies you also have to post pics... : Galadriel07
• Congratulations! Also, you seem to totally fit in here. : Kentor
• congrats indeed!!!! : SAS_Ale
• Congratulations! : Big Luke
• congratsulations!!!!!!!1 : focusdaily
• Gratz there! : YoYo
• I had no idea this went down! Congrats and welcome to the club. : -efx-
• Congrats again!!!11elevenone : Lightbulb
• gratz and welcome! I hope you don't misteriously disappear from the shack like the last person that love : dfz0r
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  MY HUSBAND : mr.sleepy
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    will you take mr. sleepy to be your lawfully wedded HUGSBAND : nomaad
    • He's gonna have to fight Dognose for him : shavenewok
    • no : mr.sleepy
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  Did Randy score with any of the bridesmaids? : mr.sleepy
  • They were both married already :( : Githyanki
• Who did he marry because in those photos, it looked like 3 or 4 different girls. : prince cinnamon boots
• whoa shit, congrats! : ghostnote
• Will you get half of the shack if... the eventual happens!? :P Which Half will you take? : VuduChild
• Now I feel really a lot older knowing Steve is married, good luck to both of you, I hope you live a long ... : abrasion
• Congrats! Good luck with him :) : chazums
• congratulations! : xxiv
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  darn, another one off the market congrats! also, I had no idea Githyanki was actually sTeve's brother. ... : Postal
  • It is useless knowledge. Unless your wanting to marry into the Gibson lineage........ : Githyanki
• huge congrats! : d3tached
• Congrats again to you guys! :) : g0nk
• PICS + DIVX!!!! : voodooraze
• grats! there was a good part in How I Met Your Mother last night with some chick named Aimee, they commen... : Patch-e
• WHOA. Congratulations. WTF, I miss Shacking for a day, and Steve gets hitched!?!? WTF. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  does this qualify as an ILTC post? : blindi0815
  • More like a Hay guy's, I got laid! : Githyanki
• Doesn't steve know not to tell his GF/wife about the shack? That is the first rule of the shack. Now wh... : risimage
• Well, I can't express how happy I feel for you two. Being here since sCary's Quakeholio, it's so nice to ... : Nitrium
• Congrats! : FormerHPB
• Congratulations! It's good to know this place at least got sTeve a chick! : Dingbat
• \o/ : c0bra
• Steve got blasted on Pina Coladas I bet he got lost in the rain too didn't he that sumbitch. : Rauol Duke

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  get the software called reason. it'll have everything you need to get started : eeeealmo
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    You guys are genius. This looks like the software I need. Will it come with enough sounds to make some... : vile
    • I have bought and tried out about a hundred refills, and I rarely venture outside of the stock soundbanks... : fleabug
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      LOLOLOL 'unique' sounding and 'reason' do not comply : -=kodiak=-
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        Maybe if you know nothing about sound design and engineering. Reason is used all over the place these day... : Mansmells
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          yea because people add in custom VST's or using their own fucking REAL hardware plugged into it, and just... : -=kodiak=-
          • sorry, my big bad... ignore the VST comment. : -=kodiak=-
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            Your first line shows you don't actually know what you're talking about. You can't plug hardware into rea... : Mansmells
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              no, your right. Im getting my shit all fucking confused. just deal with my being awake for a fucking l... : -=kodiak=-
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                Well, you might want to give the Reason 4 demo a try if you're interested. The new Thor synth is nice and... : Mansmells
                • eh maybe, dunno. Care factor in doing that stuff is long gone these days. i use to be a fucking ninja ... : -=kodiak=-
                • Yeah. Thor owns me. Not to mention that the Combinator is GOD. You can do anything with that thing. : fleabug
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  Propellerhead's Reason is a good place to start. It provides you with a number of synths and a sequencer... : DianeOfTheMoon
  • Let's beat up eeeealmo. I think we can take him. : ArB
• Reason might be a good piece of software to get. It has a sequencer, a bunch of software synths and a bun... : ArB
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  4/4 practically writes itself these days... its just too darn simple. : dignan
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    I actually like when good electronic music slips in fucked up time signatures and people don't realize it... : Fred Garvin
    • there were a couple older Icon of Coil tracks that used that fucked up 12/8 signature or whatever it is..... : -=kodiak=-
  • But a 4/4 time signature will take the power out of anything! : slax0r
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  Reason might be a good way to get started. I like the synths that come with it, added with a seperate VST... : AlexXdude
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    yeah I know, man. I expect it to be a process... just need to get started, and you guys are definitely he... : vile
    • Yeah, there are tons of sites, programs, tutorials and stuff like that to help you get started with Reaso... : AlexXdude
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  Whats the difference between something like Reason and something like FL studio? : ventro
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    not much, they're both 'toys' in the production world... : dignan
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      Toys can be powerful tools in the right hands. One of my all-time favorite albums, Sasha's Airdrawndagge... : bipolar
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        that's kind of misleading though. iirc it was used mostly to sequence samples of instruments recorded in... : dopeman
        • I'll defer to your info, as I don't know any more about it than what I said above :) : bipolar
        • im still hunting for the Wavy Gravy parts, haven't found anyone who still has them... : dignan
      • um, Sasha's an Ableton Live hound... http://www.m-audio.ca/index.php?do=artists.interview&ID=cf4b027ebd... : dignan
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        prodigy's last album was all done in reason 3.0 as well : -=kodiak=-
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          they haven't done anything noteworthy since "Charly" : dignan
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            So, do you do anything other than shit on replies? : Zero|DPX
            • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=7080790#itemanchor_7080790 : ArB
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      FL Studio much more so than Reason though : AlexXdude
      • true, there's much more to reason but everything feels so 'cookie cutter'. : dignan
    • FL Studios is actually used by some professional musicians. : aaarrrgh
  • IMHO nothing much. I haven't played with reason in 2 years, or fruity loops in 4+ years, but from what I... : dopeman
• Here's a great resource to get started with some concepts of synthesis: www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsy... : silaslang
• stick your dick into a computer : jessipoo
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  What about just using a tracker? : windowpane
  • then Id personally recommend Renoise, but reason will, in time, be easier and have much more stabilty whe... : minigomp
• get some fancy pedals for your guitars too : jane911
• with electrons, duh : dfz0r
• You really dont need a software either.. Mic up your drumset, Lower those eq's, distort it, reverb it. An... : minigomp
• A decent mic, some cheap instruments, and a wood-chipper. Later you can feed the sounds back through an ... : jasoncrowley
• fruity loops ,because soulja boy used it. he said he made crank that in 20 minutes. : arizona bay
• I prefer Ableton Live myself : dael
• make sure you get something you can use to play live! not sure how well Reason works for that, but there... : Postal
• BUY A TRITON : agentlead
• It might be worth reading this electronic music megathread in SA's Musician's Lounge: http://forums.so... : rock elf