Weekend Discussion

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• Before you start using it, open up Error Console and hit F5 a couple times to get some baseline numbers o... : ThomW
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  +lol faied : Omaha
  • That figures. Nuke my post and I'll go back to the drawing board. haha : ThomW
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  more like lol script : boring gegtik
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    I SAID, more like lol script : boring gegtik
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      MORE LIKE LOL SCRIPT : boring gegtik
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        more like lol script : boring gegtik
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          gegtik, you fail! : Bean
          • MORE LIKE LOL SCRIPT >:-( : boring gegtik
• +lol failed, but it does seem to be significantly faster : melt_core
• Yeah, +LoL failed, but it's going at like 63ms and 83ms. : coraldayton
• I found the error. Grab the script again. : ThomW
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  31 ms here : Flying h4x0r
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    Wow. I'm not seeing anything close to that, but I'm on a far-from-cutting-edge laptop. Do you know ... : ThomW
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      I'm down from ~100 to ~60. : A Sponge
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        haha - You guys have much better computers than I do. : ThomW
        • I just moved onto a desktop and I'm seeing a really nice improvement on this machine. 279ms -> 82ms ... : ThomW
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      I never looked, but I'll reinstall the old one and see : Flying h4x0r
      • 79 ms : Flying h4x0r
• Achievement Unlocked: Successful [ lol ] : hardfl1p
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  125ms for me : sikander
  • and after that 110, 109, 110.. : sikander
• 62 and 63 ms pretty consistently. : freshyk
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  how do i open the error console? : skryte
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    It's in the tool's menu. : freshyk
    • 94ms, 94ms, 79ms. : skryte
• Um, 8ms, 9ms, 9ms : hardfl1p
• 74ms, not sure what it was before : infallible
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  Any chance of getting this to work with greasekit in safari? Most of the other scripts work, but not [lol... : opengl128
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    What's bombing? : ThomW
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      gegtik in this thread : pancake humper
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        I don't get what he is trying to do but I am scared to ask him :( : dognose
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          Probably should just mark it INF. : pancake humper
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            Those are good posts in that other thread :( : dognose
            • I meant all of the posts, mark them all INF in this thread. More people will see it, maybe they will tell... : pancake humper
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      the [lol]'s just don't show up at all. : opengl128
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        Aren't you a programmer? Javascript is a snap compared to all that C++ shit you're probably hip deep in ... : ThomW
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          I can confirm that there are no lol's next to posts. : DianeOfTheMoon
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            Diane, don't you do websites? It's Javascript. Open it up and start hacking. It's easy! I can do it!... : ThomW
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              The biggest problem I'm seeing is that it looks like there is no way to debug scripts from this end. I... : DianeOfTheMoon
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                Sounds a lot like IE ... no freaking way to know wtf is going on inside the script without resorting to u... : ThomW
                • Well, I can do console.log, but errors within the greasemonkey scripts don't generate javascript errors, ... : DianeOfTheMoon
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          haha not even close. : opengl128
          • Are you a bagger at a grocery store? : ThomW
  • i've noticed that it doesn't work with the new version of greasekit (1.4). so i actually just reinstalled... : Mmmmmoo
• Worked fine for me. : NFXFSX
• Averaging 47ms here. : DrWaffles
• 0ms, 0ms, 1ms : Awun
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  Ha, I'm the fastest. :D : pieman
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    Apples to oranges, pieman. ;) : ThomW
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      I want a do-over. That post could have looked a lot cooler. Apples to oranges, pieman. ;) : ThomW
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        Apples to oranges. : ieGod
        • I like the half rainbow the red orange yellow makes. : ThomW
      • apple : pieman : doomed
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  how do you check your how fast it's loading? : edgewise
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    One thousand one, one thousand two... : Sailor of Fortune
    • oh. Then it's 1000 ms, 1000 ms, 1000 ms. : edgewise
  • Tools -> Error Console Not everyone does it, but you can log messages there from Greasemonkey. I hav... : ThomW
• 242 ms here. not sure why it's taking so long : wtf242
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  I went from about 70-80ms to ~45ms. Nice! : OverloadUT
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    The "Vanity Search" and "Parent Author" search don't work at all. Parent Author does a vanity search and ... : OverloadUT
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      I fixed the code on mine because I really like the idea of that feature: liVS.innerHTML = '<a href="h : OverloadUT
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        Well that didn't work at all. : OverloadUT
        • IM or Shackmessage what you fixed to me. I forgot those were in there, or I would have commented them ou : ThomW
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  Hey, want to trade code? I got flickr, Imageshack, EasyScreens, and Break.com to work in my Shackchan s... : TroZ
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    also, is there a significant speed difference between creating one element and then settings it's innerHT... : TroZ
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      addEventHandler is the real killer. Out of anything, if you can avoid that you win. What I did was : ThomW
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        Yea, innerHTML is much faster than DOM creation - http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html : airrob
        • I think addEventHandler reaching into the Greasemonkey script and causing a big old undesired closure in... : ThomW
• 26, 28, 27ms : nomaad
• 49, 51, 51 : whistler
• from 109ms to 16ms! Nicely done, sir! : sparkly
• Shit.... now it drops to 11ms. LOL I thought I was seeing 100+ : coraldayton
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  15 ms here. Also, doesn't the [lol] need to show up on the user's page as well? : The Key
  • Nm, I checked it and it's all good. : The Key
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  http://www.thomwetzel.com/greasemonkey/ ThomW, you really need to update that page. Also, where do ... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Write it for me. I have better things to do with my time. : ThomW
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      lol : Maddog_Delphi97
      • I don't get what's so funny. I hate writing that kind of stuff. : ThomW
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      just throw up a copy of wordpress, and make each project a category ... and then have a category that is ... : Nation
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        I have all that built. I just don't use it. http://www.lmnopc.com/category/greasemonkey/ Maybe t... : ThomW
        • sounds like a winner to me : Nation
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  Is it possible to have an option that allows me to confirm a post as funny? loling posts that aren't funn... : K1Bond007
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    We need an un-lol button! : SockMonkeh
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      then non of drucifer's posts would ever be lol'd. : Rigor Morts
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        er none :p : Rigor Morts
        • this is my biggest fear :( : drucifer
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    What do you mean -- vote down posts like this is Digg or something? : ThomW
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      negative lols? : askedrelic
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        I'm asking for some clarification, because in a perfect world where it rained money and I was blessed wit : ThomW
        • Fucking hell. I even double-checked and I did it right. \m/. SHACKTAGS .\m/ : ThomW
      • An option to negative lol would be awesome. : CrustaR
      • [sigh] : Merconium
    • Probably means a way to remove a lol you gave to post by accident. I lol'd some of the blank posts from ... : boredguy
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      No, I would hate that. : SockMonkeh
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        Yeah me too. I'm not doing that. I'd like to give people a way to remove unintended [lol]s but there's ... : ThomW
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          There's a pretty big chasm between me and actually doing your mom and it's called her vagina. : SockMonkeh
          • Should I call you Dad now? : ThomW
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      No, nothing that time consuming. More like... I read a funny post.. I decide to click [ lol ] and it says... : K1Bond007
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        Maybe I should just prevent you from lol'ing anything as a precaution because you sound like a fucking kl... : ThomW
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          Maybe. When you click to open a thread your mouse is right there on the same line. What can I say, shit h... : K1Bond007
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            I've never done that. Do you tend to double-click to open a post? : Prozium
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              I've gone to mod a post offtopic before and hit lol by mistake, but I am an airhead. : dognose
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                are the mod tools on the same line as the username, [lol] button, and message button? : Prozium
                • Nowhere near that. I am blond. : dognose
            • No. I've only done it once really. Another time I was going for a shack name and somehow missed. It's rea... : K1Bond007
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              I have, many times - my G7 is broken and often sends double-click signals when I single click :( : losimagic
              • my G7 just started doing this too :( i think its telling me its time to give up on the wireless dream and... : Arsenal
          • It was a joke ... don't be so touchy. ;) : ThomW
  • more like tragicomedy : sgtsanity
• About 200ms -> 60ms. Nice work :) : sirkne
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  Suggestion: I think it would be cool if the 1 lol per IP was loosened up. There are 2 shackers on 2 com... : dantastic
  • Yeah, just make it one lol per shackname if you can. : SockMonkeh
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    I have provisions for that. Shackmessage me your name as well as the others sharing your IP. If I like y... : ThomW
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      LOLS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS : askedrelic
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        I'm just trying to save myself from headaches from random acts of douchebaggery : ThomW
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          So, gegtik hasn't messaged you yet? : sharkII
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            Man I wish I had the lol script installed because this comment is lols!!! : boring gegtik
            • I wasn't talking about you. : sharkII
        • So, you prefer planned acts of douchebaggery? : Maddog_Delphi97
    • oh fucking sweet god yes. : thekidd
  • haha that already exists because of dahanese and myself pushing Thom to the edge of sanity :D : mikecyb
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  oh great another one of THESE threads : kn1fe
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    What does that mean? :( : ThomW
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      THANKS A LOT THOMW JEEZ : aeg1x
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        That's how I feel. If kn1fe could work a computer he'd install Firefox, Greasemonkey, my Collapse script : ThomW
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          DOH! I MEANT KN1FE - SHARKII IS INNOCENT! DON'T BOTHER HIM! : ThomW
          • your last thread gave me herpes, maybe kn1fe got it too :( : infallible
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            I just banned sharkii anyway :) : dognose
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              Better safe than sorry, right? : ThomW
              • Major lol's on my vanity search, thanks! : sharkII
  • oh great another one of THESE replies : Draugluin
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  Vanity search and parent author installed in the profile don't work correctly. Click on Vanity search,... : felicia
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    I know. I'm stupid. Those snuck in there as I was testing something. I'm going to take them out be... : ThomW
    • If you can swing it, getting the parentauthor to work correctly for people with spaces in their names wou... : felicia
    • just make it work right. you just have to juxtapose the two URLs : NeoMoose
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      Part of what is not working right in Safari is that section...I'll update it in what I send you. : DianeOfTheMoon
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        What does the Parent Author search do, anyway? I tried putting in my name and BlackCat9's name and neith... : DianeOfTheMoon
        • It's supposed to show only replies to your posts (like this post) : SilverSnake
• I think some of those who are getting the really good results, like sub-10ms only have this thread open w... : SilverSnake
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  Vanity search doesn't work for me because you spelled my name wrong. : dodob
  • Get a new name. It's too confusing. ;) : ThomW
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  126ms to 72ms on my MBP, nice. : Arsenal
  • and 49ms to 28ms on my desktop, nice work ThomW! : Arsenal

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  If somebody could SourceTV record the OGC v tfm match, I would be grateful - I'm going to miss it because... : sergeon
  • I will at the very least have the server side recording. : hirez
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    uhh this isn't going to take over an hour, you'll have plenty of time to watch it. : lakren
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      Them's fightin' words! : yosemiteclimber
      • them's troof words : lakren
  • See below. Or right here: http://www.dumb.ca/ogcvstfm.zip : jreid
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  VA vs. SR - 6pm pacific on moron.empx.net sourceTV: sourcetv.empx.net:27020 : hirez
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    that's awesome...except no one currently knows the password to Moron, and anyone who does isn't sharing t... : MisterPhoton
    • ok, so we have a password now...but no VA? : MisterPhoton
  • 6pm... yeah okay : buzzbat
• Yay! : dmason
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  VIRAL AGENTS you have a match RIGHT NOW - join or forfeit! : hirez
  • oh noes! : r3dn3ck
  • exciting! : megarust32
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    whats sad is there are 2 people from VA that are online but playing OTHER GAMES. and not responding to st... : hirez
    • Jesus... : NastyJack
    • The next tourney will kick much more ass. We'll have a list of players who show up, and stat tracking to... : romulan
    • its not like it would've mattered (they still would have been down 2), but who was it? : MisterPhoton
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    What if neither team has 8 players? : boredguy
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      Double-forfeit! : dmason
      • I'm guessing he flips a coin at that point/ : Maddog_Delphi97
    • gimp fight : Ajax
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      Team with most players wins. If the # of players is tied, they play anyway. Just a suggestion, because ... : romulan
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        yep. thats what happened. SR fielded 8, VA only had 4. The captains had been told that this was the final... : hirez
        • Damn four is pretty bad. My post was a rule suggestion if both teams don't field eight though. Hopefull... : romulan
  • What's sad is that they would have probably won if they had players. : alias
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    SR WINS - unfortunately VA could not come up with 8 players, and SR did. The server is now open again, i... : hirez
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      Bummer :( Oh well, SR will be even easier than VA for F10 to defeat ;) : yosemiteclimber
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        be sure your team can't field 8, we're looking forward to playing in the finals without winning a single ... : MisterPhoton
        • It's going to be awesome when we end up playing TFM again in the finals without having played any games i... : Portax
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          I think our team motto is :"Yeah, sure, we'll be there..." : AxeMan808
          • "We dare to show up." : MisterPhoton
        • REPRESENT! : Rice-Rocketeer
    • It's a shame we couldn't get enough people together for the match tonight. Hirez - I just wanted to say... : mrwolf710
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    Oh man. I am truly sorry that we had to pull the rules out on you but rules are rules. You break them kno... : A Sponge
    • lol : edgewise
    • Ahaha, awesome. : brickmatt
• Damnit I thought the SR game was at 9PM CST not 8PM : melkore
• SR wins by proxy, lol : MisterPhoton
• well that pretty much sucked. : mallrice
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  Yeah, it sucked. Thanks to MrWolf, Abigail and Mallrice for showing up. Tough to lose by way of forfeit, ... : racer5
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    Yeah I've been in the lab all day today and did not even open the shack until I had a matlab problem a mi... : buzzbat
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      I dont know why your captain didnt post or SM you guys - this has been set up for a few days =/ : hirez
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        virus messaged everyone a couple of days ago D: : mallrice
        • oh well that's doubly sucky that people didnt show. : hirez
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      Well, we had notice that it was "supposed" to happen, but I didn't even know which server until 90 minute... : racer5
      • I read that as 'i'm throwing out a time but I'll confirm later if we're playing or not' since he mentione... : buzzbat
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    Group hugs all round, VA. We were all on top form tonight and you are wonderful people. : A Sponge
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      You get a hug only if you whisper slam poetry in my ear as you hug :) : racer5
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        What the fuck is slam poetry? : romulan
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          I'm not entirely sure, but Abigail was threatening a "slam poetry" contest since we couldn't field 8. : racer5
          • You've never been down to the docks district warehouses for a night of wild slam poetry? My god, you have... : NastyJack
    • Acccceennntttt. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • <3 abigail, its frustrating I know how it feels : boomstickah
  • Sucks to lose that way. I couldn't show up being an European with a Job on monday morning on a match that... : shodan
• While you guys are waiting for the game to start, listen to my ode to venguard: http://www.uploading.c... : Maddog_Delphi97
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  How do you join the source tv server for 69? I've added it, but when I try to connect I get no response. : Silent Sorrow
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    Type: connect 69.56.150.202:27020 At the console. : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Thanks, maddog, I forgot what that command was. : Silent Sorrow
      • no problem. :) : Maddog_Delphi97
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  TROBLYJ, HELP!!! rcon isn't working. : yosemiteclimber
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    you have the right admin? I don't see you on my server. : trOmblyj
    • hok/lks couldn't get it working for their match : mallrice
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  lol, they're all going to Chicago to play gravelpit... they're having issues on 69. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    And Chicago doesn't have source turned on right now. :( : Maddog_Delphi97
    • nope :( : yosemiteclimber
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  HoK over LKS 6-5 on Gravelpit : mXENO
  • ouch oh shit! : devnullgt
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    i wish i could have watched. I bet it was a good game... : .frame
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      I made a demo... do you want it? : Maddog_Delphi97
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        I do! I do! : tunis5000
        • Hang on... I'm uploading to sendspace.. : Maddog_Delphi97
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          File Name: sundayhok_lks.rar Sunday, March 2nd, 2008 game between HoK and LKS http://www.sendspace.... : Maddog_Delphi97
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            And with that, I'm going to bed. Let me know how the match turns out between LKS and HoK. : Maddog_Delphi97
            • Also, let me know if this demo doesn't work for you. :( Not that there's much I can do if it doesn't w... : Maddog_Delphi97
      • please post it, yes : devnullgt
  • Boo. It's because my mighty Pyro flame wasn't there to help! : tunis5000
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    Wait, that was dustbowl right? : kainen1
    • woops, yes, it was dustbowl. : mXENO
  • so who won this match? : edgewise
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  Why can't we play on Moron server? : Grimmadog
  • because the west coast players are babies? East coasters are forced to play on shackwest, but as soon as ... : devnullgt
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  TFM wins. 6-6 on DB, win by time. 3-3 on GP win by time. GGS!!! : hirez
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    I thought it was 6-5 dustbowl. : ant_hillbilly
    • Yeah, it held. : Merconium
    • it was. good games guys. : edgewise
    • Yes, it was. : Cliffzorz
  • Damn good games TFM, you deserve it. We'll get a rematch in the finals. : Arctic Fox
  • Great games! : sneak
  • Good games =) : Crimson
  • The most fun game yet. A total blast. GG OGC! : Merconium
  • sorry you are right. : hirez
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    great game guys. Thanks again for organizing this hirez I feel a bit guilty for winning :( : itsjames
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      You can always forfeit your victory to us if you really feel guilty ;) : Arctic Fox
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        You had a high scoring couple of games! : brickmatt
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          Me personally, or the team? :) You guys played pretty damn awesome I must say. Lady Luck left us for toni... : Arctic Fox
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            You personally. You topped your team's scoreboard, didn't you? You and dmason were the only two to domin... : brickmatt
            • Heh well I'm one of the teams medics, so that'd be why I topped the scoreboard. Though I had to jump like... : Arctic Fox
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              yes, both times arctic was on top. good games =) : Crimson
              • I honestly didn't notice, I was too busy trying to not die! But Danke. : Arctic Fox
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                Well, top for OGC. You sorta took the cake! : brickmatt
                • He is by far the best heavy here, and he uses aimbot cuz he kills everything. : yosemiteclimber
          • She's a slut and we're hung like mongooses : Merconium
  • yes good game by everyone. : thief
  • Woo-mothafuckin-hoo! Yay TFM! : theamazingrand0
  • very good games OGC : vynn
  • i predict ogc will win this match : mallrice
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    That was a sexy couple of games! : brickmatt
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      did you record a demo? : edgewise
      • Sure did. It wasn't my best game overall, but I had a few really clutch moments of getting to the point ... : brickmatt
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    very good games tfm! don't tell the other ogc guys, but you almost had us crying.... although sockmonkeh ... : arcane_
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      I dominated sockmonkeh and took a screenshot I'll forever snuggle after all of his smack talking. : brickmatt
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        I dominated a spy as an engy! I was so proud :) : theamazingrand0
        • Now that's a feat. : edgewise
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      thanks for not spy checking much! : thief
      • yeah.... double yeah. : hirez
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        Between your back stabs and the demomen. Ugh, so worried about being stabbed couldn't play normal Threw... : ant_hillbilly
        • <3 : brickmatt
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          Oh yeah, I got narked a couple of times by a mid-air detonation of a crit sticky. So many times it wa... : Arctic Fox
          • I've found that mid-air detonation, especially on that last section of dustbowl around the last corner, i... : brickmatt
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      I did. I cried. When the match was over I took off all my clothes and curled up in the fetal position on ... : SockMonkeh
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        with a raging erection the whole time? : Arctic Fox
        • No. It was shriveled and flaccid. : SockMonkeh
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    Well played, Mongeese. : SockMonkeh
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      we brought our weapons. : edgewise
      • especially those healing rays. that worked well : Crimson
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      it's mongooses. : thief
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        Mongeese is another approved vernacular for a gaggle of Mongooses. : coraldayton
        • Get it right: it's a Clutch of Mongii. : jreid
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    Very good games. Couple of recordings of the action here: http://www.dumb.ca/ogcvstfm.zip - from Sourc... : jreid
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      thanks for uploading these. I need to know what my team did wrong. NOTHING! har har :P : thief
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        I think i saw you die once. : jreid
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          but did you see me shovel a heavy on dustbowl?! or taunt them on dustbowl?! har har! : thief
          • I saw that, and I shot beer out of my nose laughing. I'll never forgive you :( : yosemiteclimber
          • That engineer taunt on dustbowl had me loling. : brickmatt
          • My favorite part was when we were screwing around on gravel pit, and at the end of the round i ran in the... : theamazingrand0
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  anyone have the score for HoKvsLKS? : hirez
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    LKS won dustbowl, they're on well now. : re4ctor
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      er..LKS won Gravel Pit : re4ctor
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        wow, i hope someone has a demo of that D: : mallrice
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          LKS wins it after winning well btw : rosewood
          • Congrats to them. Unfortunate that SourceTV didn't go up there. : Felraiser
          • i read that as 'jackass loses' : mallrice
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            after a shitton of bullshit. : dignan
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              hahha what : feek
              • excuses excuses, but they only fielded 9, us substituting, no rcon, changing servers, people joining, it ... : dignan
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              aye, it was an awesome game... well fought, but fuck all that bullshit man. Seriously i hope no other tea... : Demius
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                OGC bounced through 3 servers last round due to some horrible lag issues. I feel your pain. : Arctic Fox
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                  People should really play more on Moron... Devnullgt or I are always available to change to tourney setti... : camel_jockey
                  • Moron was server #2 for us last week :P Skankcore's team complained about lag there. We have rcon through... : Arctic Fox
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                    there are 4 servers in central that people can use. i dont see why shackwest or moron are used for tourne... : mallrice
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                      Because they don't typically carry much play time otherwise? Seems like a good idea to use the servers th... : yosemiteclimber
                      • it's only for a few hours, and it's not like they're all going to be used. : feek
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                it seemed like nothing to me, compared to our match against VA : feek
                • Agreed. That was the clusterfuck of the tourney. : mrwolf710
              • could have played on moron or nkotb......stop whining : devnullgt
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                nowhere near the cluster that all of our matches were. it happens. it is hard when people don't have work... : mallrice
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                  man that's crazy. My group (CT) kept things pretty much in stride, had a great time the whole time. Sur... : kainen1
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                    this is fun, and damn competative matches, good games.. but issues like that? time to drinky drinky :( ... : Demius
                    • PS: well wasn't that close, LKS had control the entire time... its like when the superbowl giants had con... : Demius
                    • wow that was close. closer than feek's typical posturing post down below indicates. I did watch dustbowl... : kainen1
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            I have fortold the future http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16385807#itemanchor_16385807 : redfive
            • You totally called one of six possible outcomes and were correct! : TreMetal
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              check out my predictions. all of them have come to fruition. lks won, thief raped ogc, and there was a ... : mXENO
              • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16387265#itemanchor_16387265 : mXENO
              • I did not do as much as "raped ogc" would imply, but who would you pick for LKS TFM? :P Assuming full t... : thief
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  lol @ no rcon on chicago for the match. How many people joined and jumped in w/o knowing/ : rosewood
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    I did. There's no way to tell. I jumped out 5 seconds later. : K1Bond007
    • yeah, sorry about that.. wish we could've passworded it. : lakren
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      yeah everyone refused to play on nkotb which we could lock, so instead we spent half of well yelling GET ... : bfzzzz
      • I sympathize.. I can't play on nkotb either. I get dropped after like 10 seconds. : K1Bond007
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        that blows; why didnt you move to nkotb?!? : hirez
        • A lot of people complained about lag on that server. Although it's been fixed with the sourceTV config no... : Alco23
        • Well, last time we played on NKOTB (vs VA), the server crashed, over and over again. : FlamingGimp
    • Thinking back you should have stay in spec to watch the game. Block the extra slots to prevent extras com... : Alco23
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  FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEERRRRRRRRR DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO : DrFlammable
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    You get MVP for your side Flammable :) I think we would have had it if you were out for the whole nig... : Grumbeld
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      that asshole was doing HOMEWORK for the first part of dustbowl. what the hell! it awsn't just him t... : lakren
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        I'm still confused where all of your players went when we started GP... we were really hoping for an 11v1... : Grumbeld
        • lotta dudes had work early and had to run.. dunno, it was a bit late for a match, honestly, i'm not gonna... : lakren
        • I had to get to sleep... it was already approaching midnight EST before Dustbowl ended. I was playing ... : zerog83
        • Yeah honestly the match time was terrible for me... I have to be up at 6am Monday morning, so a match end... : camel_jockey
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  isn't the next patch getting tournament mode or something? :D : Downforce
  • didn't they add some tools in this last patch for that? nothing great but still : kainen1
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  so how about how we were missing 3 top players in DB, proceeded to wreck shit in GP, and totally toyed yo... : feek
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    What, we held you for 18 minutes on point 6 in DB, and capped it on you guys, you added a couple guys for... : Jackass1233
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      2 points on well. : camel_jockey
      • oh you mean after the game timer which lakren was constantly calling up hit 0:00 and everyone stopped pla... : Jackass1233
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      i'm not gonna be a douche because i was a douche for yelling at you for spawn camping (because you were s... : lakren
      • none of us could play well tonight.. the game went on way too long and mentally i was gone for sure. (im ... : Demius
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        you make it sound like you rolled us on the last two maps. You won gravelpit by about 4 minutes which isn... : Jackass1233
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          what, it didn't go like that at all. review some demos. : feek
          • post yours, cause mine must be broken. Im seeing the sm_timelimit come up counting down every 15 seconds ... : Jackass1233
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          The server clock was not synchronized in the match for some reason. Timeleft command gave 0:00 time on th... : Alco23
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            it was 3-1 when we reached 30 minutes played.. I was watching my clock, jackass called, and was right, wh... : lakren
            • by that point i know for a fact a few of our players were not in the game (myself included) god knows ... : Demius
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      and both teams were mentally frustrated at the entire game.. I dont know about everyone else, but i have ... : Demius
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        I had a blast, but then again I joined late and probably missed some of the drama. Being down in GP was ... : camel_jockey
        • Well minus the server bullshit, I had a great time. The stuttering on DB was kind of annoying, and you g... : FlamingGimp
      • That feeling sucks. Sorry, guys. : Merconium
  • GG LKS. Well played. You won the game but definitely not "toyed". : Alco23
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  so could we just say sunday for the LKS TFM game? :\ : thief
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    that's fine with me. : lakren
    • since everyone seems to be able to make it. : thief
    • good stuff I should be available next Sunday : tunis5000
  • that has my vote : vynn
  • i cant make it good luck tfm : Chandler55
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  updated brackets: http://ems.esportsea.com/?a=x.schedule&stageid=1757 : hirez
  • http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pWiPXgIV2Yj5ckRvEjwCpdw&gid=0 : thief
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    What are you ranking us by? : brickmatt
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      Draft order, winner of each match takes the top-seed rank. : Felraiser
      • Gotcha, I can see that now. : brickmatt
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      Points per hour I believe. : edgewise
      • No! It is definitely not this way, and NJOB would have gone further in the tournament if it had. :( : Felraiser
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      It's PPH. felraiser and/or pieman did this by just putting together the stats of each team's pph total. ... : thief
      • WRONG : brickmatt
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        http://shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16106114 1 : thief
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          I love how wrong that is. : brickmatt
          • It got one thing right. :( : SockMonkeh
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            A large part of the wrongness is due to a spreadsheet error on your team. Your actual PPH average is ~99,... : Felraiser
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              what was the error? You might as well take murraytheskull's pph off, too, as he doesn't play ;\ i hop... : thief
              • Yeah, today worked out well - we got lucky like that. : brickmatt
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              That would help, but still not explain all of it. Where was the error on my team? That's interesting. ... : brickmatt
              • Oh, plus spies getting two points. That skews things. : brickmatt
          • Serious Business has a player with 38 PPH, that's impressive. : FlamingGimp
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    so how does this bracket work anyways? What happens to the loser of TFM and LKS? Do they go straight to r... : edgewise
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      you can see the losers dropping down to the loser's bracket all the way through. we lost in round 2 so w... : electroly
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        yeah, but just under the bracket for round 4, it's already half filled with the losers of tonight's tier ... : edgewise
        • The winners of the round 4 losers bracket play each other in round 5 losers bracket, and the winner of th... : brickmatt
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      yeah I think they will get dropped into round 6 and then the winner of the losers bracket plays the winne... : mikecyb
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        It feels like TFM vs LKS is the real championship, we're the only undefeated teams! : brickmatt
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          yes, but wouldn't it have been great to play every team? I mean, I think a match against NJOB or Critica... : thief
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            maybe we could play for fun. I don't know if the rest of the team would be up for it, but I sure would. : re4ctor
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              I'm sure we could get at least a 9v9 or 10v10 going for like, as soon as tuesday or even thursday night (... : thief
              • I'm up for it... it'd just have to be after 9pm Central Tuesday or Wednesday, or after 10pm on Thursday, ... : coraldayton
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          yeah the loser bracket kind of takes away from that but at the same time it's possible to have a bad game... : mikecyb
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            plus I love the idea of the winner of the tournament may have to play a team twice. That last game would... : thief
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              It'll be so cool if the loser bracket team wins the first match against the undefeated team. They will bo... : SockMonkeh
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                if there's a second final game, the sourcetv server will explode : electroly
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                  haha i cant wait, the im rooting for the underdog to beat the undefeated team once, to get the epic final... : Jackass1233
                  • Same here and it'd just be a testament as to how even the teams are. : dmason
          • That is the entire point of double elimination. F10 is ready, are you? : yosemiteclimber
  • oooh... we may have to go against pwnify again? dizam. : Grumbeld
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  Since the last patch, my medic healing ray doesn't show up on screen all the time. Anyone else having thi... : edgewise
  • i've seen this before, dunno if there's a fix. i usually just heal another person or something and it'd s... : Mmmmmoo
  • Do you use the newer (one-click) healing control scheme? The same thing happens to me at times, not sure ... : Felraiser
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    This happened to me after I enabled that auto-medigun checkbox in the options. Everything worked once I t... : project13
    • yeah I don't like the continuous-healing option. Something about it doesn't quite work like I want it to : itsjames
  • This happens to me if I alt-tab out and back in during a game. : skinlab133
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    Sort of similar, there's a railing right outside the spawn of Well that I can't see anymore. You know you... : K1Bond007
    • I think you can't see it on low detail, IIRC. Seems like a bug. : crummynz
  • Happens if I use the one-click method. So I've reverted back to my mouse hammering just to be sure I'm he... : Alco23
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  ATTN HIREZ: last nights match was a total CLUSTER FUCK of shit. team captains MUST check RCON status prio... : m0rfus
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    Well for LKS-HoK we had rcon on 69, but the server decided to crap out. Again had we moved to moron I ha... : camel_jockey
    • VA-SR was on Moron until 9:40 or so. : MisterPhoton
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      not really sure how the server crapped out... I got in at midnight and tested everything was as I had se... : trOmblyj
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        i just think that captains should double check to help prevent crap like that again. it was SOOO frustrat... : m0rfus
        • Oh I'm not disagreeing, but had 69 not had the lag/stutter problems the rcon issue on Chicago would be mo... : camel_jockey
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        Not sure how to describe it other then 20-30 second bouts of horrendous lag - I'd guess the demos will re... : camel_jockey
        • It was equally as fucked for me on Chicago. When I have a higher ping that the irish and the guy on Hawai... : Alco23
    • Could have also moved NKOTB which bfzzzz has rcon to.... But the captains liked "to live dangerously". :... : Alco23

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  Instrumental nin? YES. YES. FUCKING YES. If it sounds like The Fragile I am buying immediately. : SpaecKow
  • Some of them are very Fragile'esque, some are just...nothing I've ever heard from him. Really fucking go... : wykd
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  holy shit, free download album : t0ad
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    Only the first 9 of 36 tracks I thought. $5 for all of them. : yemeth
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      What's the quality/format? : Deathlove
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        320 kbps LAME MP3, FLAC, iTunes Lossless : Chris Faylor
        • god bless trent reznor and his important work : Deathlove
      • when you buy it, 320k mp3, flac or apple lossless. not sure about the free one : QMS|superdave
      • - Mp3 format (320 kbps LAME encoded fully tagged) - FLAC Lossless - Apple Lossless All 100% DRM free... : Rag and Bone Man
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        I think I'm going to get 320 kbps this time. I got NiggyTardust FLAC but I never used it so I got the mp3... : freshyk
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          You could've just converted the FLAC to whatever MP3 bitrate you wanted... and then later converted it to... : nudel
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            You can also buy the CD and do it yourself later. : Chris Faylor
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              Yeah, in a month! Although at this rate that will be quicker than ordering it from the website. :( : nudel
              • Oh with the Saul album you mean. Yeah. :) You can now. : nudel
            • That's what I'm going to do. It would have taken less time to redownload NiggyTardust than batch convert ... : freshyk
    • Holeeeeeee shit, throwing $5 right now. : Matt Burris
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  This would be more interesting if i could load the site. : boredguy
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    Same. :( : sgtsanity
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      Slowly crawling along. Finally in my shopping cart. : Chris Faylor
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        No! Come back up! Please :( : Chris Faylor
        • store.nin.com hates us all :( : Chris Faylor
      • I made it as far as the "one-time download" link. It downloaded 8 megs out of 600 and crapped. Hope that ... : jreid
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  It won't take my secure code. :[ : CrustaR
  • yeah same here : mindshot
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  Instrumental NIN? Hooray, no lyrics! : Sacred Sperm
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    Exactly. I have dreamed of this ever since I fell in love with The Fragile and into hate with Reznors une... : SpaecKow
    • Yeah The Fragile is one of my favourite albums. I'm not a huge fan of NiN's other stuff (although I still... : aeg1x
    • ^^^ I couldn't listen to his crap anymore after downward spiral. : romulan
  • Hrm and I thought I was the only one who thought his vocals absolutely ruined year zero... must check thi... : mordaken
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  Fuck yes]. And All That Could Have Been was some of the best material Reznor has ever produced. : Chris Faylor
  • Massive Shacktag Faylure :( : Chris Faylor
• GET THE FUCK OFF THAT WEBSITE IT'S MINE!!! Argh it's being hammered! :-/ I must have it now. I saw it fir... : nudel
• can't connect :( : mwasher
• Awesome, downloading now : sexydingo
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  if the site isn't loading, you can try amazon (from the faq)... Q: Is Ghosts I-IV available elsewhere?... : burgertime
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    Can anyone else find it on amazon, I've looked but I can find... Possibly not uploaded there yet I guess? : semaphore
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      http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-I-IV/dp/B00158SHD8/ref=sr_f3_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1204512560&sr=103-1 : burgertime
      • though it looks like from amazon it's 256 kbps mp3s : burgertime
      • Awesome thanks... also a good place to preview songs too : semaphore
      • nice!! 256kbps is plenty good and DRM-Free too : Shadowdane
    • http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00158SHD8/ref=amb_link_6465152_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-spa... : dantastic
• i'm not a big nine inch nails fan, but i do dig instrumentals and i like that they are offering 9 songs f... : pyide
• holy shit http://ghosts.nin.com/images/popup_product_ultradeluxe.jpg that would be kickass to have. $... : mwasher
• oh, nice $10 for a 2 CD set. And the $300 set looks pretty :O too : Deathlove
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  oh man I love his instrumental stuff. : afrochops
  • I'm goin to just have to wait. This is only going to get worse :( : afrochops
• Awesome, deluxe edition has DVD with all tracks in multi-track .wav format so I can remix $$$ I am all... : indosauros
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  has anyone here had a chance to listen to any of it? Personally I've found reznors best work to be instru... : two50six
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    The previews from Amazon are pretty good so far : MrLobo
    • He should really do another game soundtrack is what my reaction is. : Tawler
• Oh man, this is fantastic. I hope Trent just continues down the instrumental path! : Bean
• Come on you fags get off the site so I can get on. >:( : freshyk
• This may be the first NIN album I listen to since 2002. Cool. : aethyr
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  I'm liking the streaming audio right now. Now to figure out what I'll be buying. I'm leaning towards th... : Rag and Bone Man
  • ... But I'll be waiting for a few days since the site is getting HAMMERED right now. : Rag and Bone Man
• what kind of d/l rates are you guys getting? for me it's about 28 kb/s :/ : burgertime
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  Forty minutes to download :( : Chris Faylor
  • at least it's downloading at all for you : mwasher
• STFU! YESSSS! : zerog83
• get off the site bitches! : zerog83
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  $10 2cd set is very appealing. Does anyone know if the cds are pressed or burned? : sparkly
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    Almost positive they are pressed. : Chris Faylor
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      I wonder if he'll have a 12" release as well. I don't see much reason in getting it in that format, but ... : the archvile
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        the $300 pack includes a 4 piece vinyl that is signed by Trent Reznor : mwasher
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          Not to mention that it includes the entire set in multi-track format so you can remix it and make it your... : DianeOfTheMoon
          • aww hell, I think I'm gonna buy the $10 set. Trent Reznor is a genius :/ : sparkly
          • wonder if it's worth not paying rent... : reverend~heresy
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  24 mins!!! : Stroyent
  • 13:36! : Chris Faylor
• looks like it's licensed under creative commons too. I imagine we'll see a ton of remixes. : aeg1x
• The super-expensive version should be hosted on a dedicated web server because I would totally impulse bu... : nudel
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  The uber limited edition version includes the multi-track session WAV files from all the songs. Pretty cr... : Serpico74
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    So does the $75 version. He's released multi-track and/or instrumental versions of most of his stuff now,... : nudel
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      Right after I posted I saw that it was also in the $75 version. Pretty cool that he does that. : Serpico74
      • Yeah, especially with multi-layered stuff like his music. I've got no interest in remixing but it's reall... : nudel
• 15:36 remaining on the DL. bought the physical cd ($10). track 13 is amazing. : mrsparil
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  I still can't get passed the goddamn order page. :( : freshyk
  • Same. The fuck is this bullshit? : pandasrus
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    i got to the submit email and verification code page, but stopped there : mwasher
    • I've gotten as far as the order check box page. Stops working when I press contine. : freshyk
  • it wouldnt load for me at all : khalil420
  • Same problem. I think it's just hammered. : protozone
• So glad this was released tonight... Just started listening and outside I hear howling wind and claps of ... : Stroyent
• Boo for being at work... Hopefully it'll work well when I get home! : MacemanInTW
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  what is going on, free muzak? it wont load : MoreVespeneGas
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    A new instrumental set of albums called Ghosts. Ghost 1 is free and is 9 tracks. $5 for the entire thing ... : freshyk
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      The super crazy $300 one looks sweet. Really really sweet. : MacemanInTW
      • Yeah. I wish I had an income so I could buy it. :( : freshyk
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        no shit, it would be sick to have, I'm seriously thinking about the $75 dollar one though... : snowwolf
        • The only reason I havent ordered any of them is because I dont have a credit card anymore. : MacemanInTW
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        what do you use to play vinyl on? : MoreVespeneGas
        • a betamax deck plugged into an EGA monitor. : zerog83
• About the only NIN I like is instrumental stuff, so this is pretty cool. : tomservo
• Track 3. Wow. : Stroyent
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  Can someone that has the free tracks mirror them on Shackspace or smth? : Deathlove
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    There's an "official torrent" of them in the obvious places. (The torrent is legal but I guess I shouldn'... : nudel
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      why not? if it's just the free 9 tracks i don't see how it would matter. i've tried finding that torr... : mwasher
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        There's a link to it on http://www.theninhotline.net along with some other news/info about it. : nudel
        • ty! : mwasher
        • ty for the link : khalil420
      • I'm just going to wait till the site isn't hammered. I'd prefer the artist get the count of my download a... : Simulacrum
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  After hearing this album I really want to hear Trent's take on the theme song from the good, the bad, and... : Stroyent
  • That whole soundtrack is awesome. Actually, anything Ennio Morricone does is awesome. : mmt681
• I gotta say, as much as I've always enjoyed NIN, his attitude towards the music industry makes me like Tr... : Vincent Grayson
• Oh fuck yeah! Biggest surprise I've seen in a long fucking while, w00t! : snowwolf
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  oh man, there went $300 : not work safe
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    good luck getting one, LIMITED TO 2500 : MoreVespeneGas
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      Thank you for your order at nin.com. This is a copy of your receipt for your records. You will receive a ... : not work safe
      • I wonder that too, because if they just accept whatever amount and then come back and cancel some because... : Bean
      • One would think, site wont load for me at all. : MoreVespeneGas
      • can you pay more for...extra handling? : Dave-A
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  All instrumental? Man, I've been waiting for him to do this since the bonus disc to And "All That Could H... : systatic
  • Yes, yes, a million times yes. : Chris Faylor
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  welp, I just ordered the $300 one. I sure hope it's awesome!!! :P : Bean
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    you lucky son of a CONGRATS! : reverend~heresy
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      and it only took me an hour to get through! : Bean
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        I'm still waiting to buy the fucking $10 version. : freshyk
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          You just know Trent is sitting in a vault filled 10-feet high with gold coins, and he's all swimming arou... : Bean
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            Seriously, what kind of shitty ass server is this. I've been trying to get in for over an hour. : freshyk
            • There's probably a retarded number of people trying to get through right now. : Vincent Grayson
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            you know I have tried diving and swimming in a big vat of coins and it does not work at all. if you dive... : mikecyb
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              Well, mikey, there you go ruining my fantasies! I've been sitting here speccing out the best way, logisti : Bean
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                it would work if the coins were made of foam, or possibly if you replaced them with a colorful plastic ba... : mikecyb
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                  Wait until 4am or so and it'll probably have died down. : Bean
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                    I've decided to also buy the $300 one and use it to exploit NIN fans with too much money :D : mikecyb
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                      (it's not working so well right now) : mikecyb
                      • NIN fans with too much money will already have bought the $300 version, though! : Bean
                • I swam in foam blocks once... that isn't fun either. : Grumbeld
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            Actually, I don't think this is as true as we'd think. He got shafted pretty hard by Interscope over the ... : not work safe
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              Really, he got * D O N K I N G ' D *? Oh man, if so that's pretty shitty. :( : Bean
              • Though that would totally explain his open bitterness and hatred for labels and the standard media channe : Bean
            • This is true and he has to work his ass off for everything he earns, but it's also basically true that he... : Schnapple
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    Nice. :D : freshyk
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      I will buy any special edition for any instrumental NIN releases that get put out. I haven't cared much f... : Bean
      • I planned on buying this just to support the method of distribution, but I may just have to give it a lis... : Ctrl-Phreak
  • lolz : deathofrats
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    Wow, old Bean. Did you really? : CrustaR
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      Yes: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16389902#itemanchor_16389902 : Bean
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        I read that, but I wasn't sure. $300 is a lot of dough! : CrustaR
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          It's all relative. : Bean
          • Indeed. : CrustaR
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  So is this more like the Quake soundtrack, or the instrumentals on The Fragile? : Lone Swordsman
  • I am only halfway through a first listen and it is extremely varied. Slow thoughtful stuff, harder indus... : semaphore
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  I want to give them $10 but they won't let me >:( : mikecyb
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    you're not the only one : grabbie
    • yeah, good thing I don't desperately need the $300 one because I might be fucked. I'll just try again in... : mikecyb
• i'm not a huge fan but i'm buying the albums because i really think this is how music distribution should... : Clay
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  I can't get to the order page, is it dead? : cryptical
  • no, but it's slow as fuck. : Bean
• I'm wondering how long the $300 one will last, given the attraction for DJs (vinyl) and collectors alike. : yemeth
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  Seriously if you are going to get money have a server fast enough to take it. : yakz
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    Once it actually started downloading I was getting around 300 Kbps. : Stroyent
    • I can't even get him to take my damned money :( : yakz
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  Fuck is there any other way to get the blu-ray release besides the $300? : DarkWolf5
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    It's included in the $75 version. : sgtsanity
    • Yeah I see now I just got through to the site. I don't think I can swing the $300 even though I really re... : DarkWolf5
• HOLY SHIT. Downloading the FLAC version now!! : silent prophet
• I hope there's a confirmation screen, cause I've hit reload like 5 times after entering my CC info. : trOmblyj
• trying my hardest to give him my money right no : Omning
• poor little webserver. I think I'll wait a few weeks. : the archvile
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  do want 300 dollar limited edition :( girlfriend said she'd go halfsies on it with me, wont do it o_O : grayscale
  • trying to give trent 75 dollars of debt >_< <shakes fist> : grayscale
• if you are not worried about getting hacked by chinese, change the "https" to "http" after you select you : silent prophet
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  Holy fucking hell, this is awesome. BUT I CANT FUCKING LOAD THE SITE! : wykd
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    It only took 2 hours but my order finally went through. Now to download it. : freshyk
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      I just went the amazon route : wykd
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        Was that download only or did they have a CD+download option? I wanted the CD as well. : freshyk
        • Just the download. I'll buy it again for the CDs later on. : wykd
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  i have this on my ipod now and realized that every track has it's own individual artwork embedded in it : mwasher
  • That's fucking awesome. : NFXFSX
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    confirmed; what a great fuckin easter egg : liquidlies
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      I don't think it's an easter egg as part of the "Ghosts" experience. His whole thing with this album is c... : Bean
      • agreed. it's reminiscent of when i realized the lyrics for each niggy tardust track were embedded into t... : liquidlies
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        Yeah I was going to tag all the mp3's with the cover art for the album but that would mess up the experie... : Schnapple
        • Yeah. I mean, add that to this: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16390223#itemanchor_16390223 and real : Bean
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  After one complete listen... I give it 2 thumbs up. Reminds me of the fragile instrumentals. : Stroyent
  • I'm just getting the streaming samples off the website while I'm at work and I say the same. Gotta go ge... : MacemanInTW
• Purchased the second I heard about it. NIN instrumentals are some of the best music I've ever heard -- a... : Ride-My-Rocket
• i'm impressed so far through the first 4 songs, definitely going to be buying this when the site is worki... : infallible
• I would like them to have my money, but I need to get to the store to do so! : Chepito.
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  pls to let me be buying vinyl copy : pyros
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    $300 and it's yours : Zero|DPX
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      Yeah that's pretty gay, as much as I love Trent, most other indie bands seem to be able to do a vinyl pre... : pyros
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        $70 shipping WUT : pyros
        • Hey there's a $40 vinyl copy coming out to retail apparently : pyros
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      it's $75 actually. the $300 one is the same but also signed : mikecyb
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        Really? It looks to me like the $300 one is the only one with the LP's : Schnapple
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          hmmm, I thought the $75 was the same as the $300 one except for the signature, but it appears you're corr... : mikecyb
          • Someone in this thread though is saying that the LP version is making its way to retail independently, so... : Schnapple
    • Looks like they are going to do a standalone release of the vinyl's in april...at least I just read that ... : MacemanInTW
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  Wow this sounds great so far. Had to get it from Amazon though. : wykd
  • yah i bought it through Amazon too, but I'll probably buy a physical CD later as well. : Shadowdane
• reminds me of burial melikes : ITcola
• YESSSSSSSSSSS : pwnage1232
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  I have been trying for the better part of 2 hours trying to PURCHASE this fucking thing and it still will... : stelth
  • I for one welcome our new digital distribution overlords. : mockery
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    Fucking finally! Thank you for purchasing Ghosts I-IV. To download your files, click on the link below... : stelth
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      Is there a way to make copies of tabs? : DarkWolf5
      • I just copied the URL and pasted it in new tabs. That's all. :P : stelth
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  For everyone waiting, I wholeheartedly recommend getting it off Amazon's download service. http://www.... : sgtsanity
  • Does it have the unique cover art per track? : Schnapple
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    They are 256k cbr mp3s or are they 256k VBR? I've heard mixed reports about Amazon's quality : Bean
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      The FAQ says mostly variable bit rate, with a few constant bit rate exceptions. As a generally-pretentiou... : sgtsanity
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        Does it say what encoder they use? LAME or something else? I looked at the FAQ myself and didn't see it, ... : Bean
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          No, it doesn't say which encoder. It's probably faster and easier to just try downloading a tough album o... : sgtsanity
          • Yeah, that's what I ended up deciding to do with a song I have already, and I'm going to compare it to th... : Bean
        • I read somewhere that they use LAME. : slax0r
        • For reference, the amazon version of ghosts is LAME3.97 MP3 VBR V0 : DarkWolf5
    • 256k VBR MP3 : Shadowdane
  • normally i would agree, but for this one i really want to order directly from the man. guess i just hav... : smacknca
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    I want the FLAC version and I'd rather as much of it as possible went to NIN, even if that means that I h... : protozone
    • ^^^ Don't go through middlemen, go directly to the source. Especially when NIN is offering 320k MP3s, FL... : Ride-My-Rocket
• Hey cool he released the free version (Ghosts I) to BitTorrent. : DarkWolf5
• So awesome. Amazoning this since the site is hopelessly overloaded and I want it now. :( : timaste
• fuck yes. I love NIN, but I love the instro's more. : fotografico
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  What's everyone's favorite track so far? : wykd
  • probably #24. haven't listened to the last volume yet, though. : jabxvi
• fucking awesome stuff. just got it off amazon.com a while ago and will be ordering at least the deluxe ed... : jabxvi
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  there's a torrent out there of the Ghosts I (1-9, the free ones), and the readme says "This torrent is an... : pyide
  • yup, completely legit : liquidlies
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    Yes, here's the readme file: Nine Inch Nails: Ghosts I (2008) Hello from Nine Inch Nails. We\\ : stelth
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      yep. even if you aren't a NIN fan like me, how can you not support that? he's got my $5. : pyide
      • yea ill buy it just on principle. fortuantely i like nin too so its double win! : sexninja!!!!
      • This album is fairly different than his previous records, so even if you don't like him, hopefully you'll... : stelth
  • Trent has even admitted he was a fan and user of Oink.cd and said he loved it. So he is definitely on th... : Matt Burris
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  50k/s shit : nandu666
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    Same. Still got 30 minutes left. :( : freshyk
    • just failed have to start again now fuck : nandu666
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  I assume my school's crappy connection is the reason I'm getting 40k/s? :( : sparkly
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    That's a bold assumption considering all the people in this thread reporting similar speeds and the fact ... : SockMonkeh
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      It's getting hammered, but I'm still averaging 90-110k/s : liquidlies
      • Yeah, I got up to that speed eventually, but it started at 40k/s, then went up to 50k/s for a long time. : SockMonkeh
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  Track 28. Hell Yes. : Chris Faylor
  • Haha, I'm right there too and it's fantastic. : sgtsanity
• Wow, just wow. I finished listening to the entire thing a minute ago, with just crappy Dell speakers. I... : wykd
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  God dammit. I ordered the $75 one and my download stalled out and its not letting me try again. :| : DarkWolf5
  • Just happened to me on my $5 version :( : moogle
  • If you have problems downloading your file please contact customer support at support@store.nin.com. : sexninja!!!!
• Yeay it's downloaded and syncing to my iPod! : SockMonkeh
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  To show how excellent the details are on this album, check this: The album has artwork for it so that ... : stelth
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    How do you get that second artwork for the first song to show up on an ipod? It shows the album cover but... : freshyk
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      On my iPhone if I select the album and then skip tracks in there, it'll show different artwork for each s... : stelth
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        I can see the different artwork for all the songs besides the first one. I have an ipod touch so it shoul... : freshyk
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          I select the first track of the album and then just skip forward. That's all *shrug* : stelth
          • GODDAMMIT i bought the album off amazon because nin.com was fucking down. it only has the main cover ... : dopefish
  • I don't think this applies to the Amazon version of the album. Sucks. : aggressor
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  50% and it times out. great. : spaceless
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    80% aaaand failed :( : sparkly
    • I made it to 20%. We should combine our downloads for maximum profit. : Ctrl-Phreak
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      failed at 30% this time. maybe it'll work the third time? :( : sparkly
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        Mine times out at 2%. Time to email support. : evildanish
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          Shit, I'm getting the same now. fuck fuck fuck why couldn't I have just gone for the mp3s, could have had : e1ghtball
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            Nah, I went for the mp3s, same deal. But it seems their tech support knows that the site is flaky as f... : evildanish
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              From NIN.com We've been adding more servers to accommodate the unexpected demand and we expect to be r : evildanish
              • I stupidly didn't even think to look at the main site but that's excellent.. waiting until later is a lot... : e1ghtball
  • Mine keeps failing at 10%...now I'm getting an access denied message. : Snif DeCrac
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  Why has no one mentioned the most important part: ALL OF THE TRACKS ON THIS ALBUM ARE LICENSED WITH THIS... : batkiwi
  • i for 1, support this artist and method of distribution. : radula
  • yeah i pretty much wanna have Trent's babies because of this alone. : dopefish
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    Actually, I did mention that already. Twice, in fact. : Bean
    • Nevertheless, it's worth noting, and an important sign that Trent understands both the technology and the... : Bean
  • then he's gonna complain again about how much money he lost from this : brollercoaster
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    Somebody host this on their shackspace already! I paid for the download and it crapped out on me after 10... : nomaad
    • im glad someone else asked but yea, trying to get 600 megs from this craptastic service is pissing me off... : spaceless
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    That's definitely the most important bit, but they've also done so many other things right. They've al... : protozone
    • it's not sheet music, no. It's a photography book with the pictures that inspired each of the tracks. : Bean
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  Ouch. $13.49 S&H to Canada on the $10 cd... 2 cd set (1) $10.00 Shipping & Handling $13.49 Total $... : brollercoaster
  • same for us eurofags.. the exchange rate means it works out pretty much square though : e1ghtball
  • That's pretty brutal. Does it weigh 20 lbs or something? : Rag and Bone Man
• Simply fantastic : rabbit003
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  Adrian Belew is all over the album, too. HELLS YEAH : industro
  • oh snap, the guitarist from King Crimson right? he's pretty much the fucking man : zerog83
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  Goddamn, this download couldn't possibly go any slower. : Vincent Grayson
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    It has died twice on me already. I just wish I could find another host for the FLAC files, since it isn't... : nomaad
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      That would be great since the download link craps out for me too, but I can see why someone wouldn't want... : nudel
      • I've been trying to download it all night. I got 500MB of 604 and it failed, now I'm not getting more th... : trOmblyj
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  This is great. I want to take lots of drugs and skip work and listen to this in the bath with the lights ... : not work safe
  • That'd be a pretty nice response to the Mondays. : Merconium
  • That sounds wonderful right now...I couldn't sleep for the longest time last night, and when I did fall a... : MisterPhoton
  • I just woke up and instead of class, this is now the plan. Fuck class. : pwnage1232
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  I have found a working torrent of the mp3 version. I wont link it here though - while the album is under ... : evildanish
  • I want my FLAC copy. :( : silent prophet
• If this is the way to release an album, why is it 12 hours later and I still don't have it? Hope I can g... : tsuba
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  Freaking awesome. I'll get the free one to check it out at work then probably get the full thing when I ... : Omaha
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    I'm gonna order the $75 one I think, Omaha. You know anyone with a PS3 and surround sound? ;-) : MisterPhoton
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      we can smoke peyote and listen to the album on Blu-Ray : MisterPhoton
      • which is kind of like Ray Charles, but different : MisterPhoton
    • The Blu-Ray version's still stereo (high definition stereo, but still stereo) : nudel
• who wants to give me $300 for the limited edition? :[ : zerog83
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  Holy shit, I can't believe some of you are ordering the $75 and $300 packages. Trent Reznor knows what he... : SockMonkeh
  • NIN has an excellent fanbase. With that said, even though I love NIN, I don't care much for instrumentals... : yoonix
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    $75 seems fine for 2 CDs of music, a Blu-Ray of the same in high-def, a multi-track data DVD, plus immedi... : nudel
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      Oh yeah, I'm sure it's a fair price for what you get. It's just that I want the music and the rest is jus... : SockMonkeh
      • interested in the remix perks : reverend~heresy
  • i'm holding out for the $650 edition. it comes with a vial of trent jizz! : industro
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  this is stupid. the downloads keep timing out after like 1MB or so. I'll try it later I guess. : oatmela
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    Same for me :/ : Chepito.
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      also for me :( : trOmblyj
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        Fuck it says limit exceeded :( I never got the fucking download!!!!! : trOmblyj
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          They'll keep the download links available until the servers are stable. : Chepito.
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            When I click on the download link I get an error that says limit exceeded - that doesn't sound very avail... : trOmblyj
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              I'm sorry tromblyj!!! I meant that they'll make them available again when things smooth out. : Chepito.
              • BUT CHEPITO I WANT MY NIN NOW!!!! :( :( :( : trOmblyj
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              They'll reset the download limits once the kinks are worked out. It's on nin.com : evildanish
              • ok thx i see this now. Still doesn't change the fact that I WANT IT NOW : trOmblyj
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  Downloaded it last night and I am listening to it at work now. It's good so far. Unfortunately, I have to... : SockMonkeh
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    This sucks. Now I'm on hold so I can't do anything and I can't even listen to music. :( : SockMonkeh
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      I bought the $10 version but I can't fucking download it... it keeps timing out. would you be willing ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        you can grab a torrent, its completely legal : snowwolf
        • I want my flac version :( : trOmblyj
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          i'm at my office so no torrents for me. i'm had our ISP block torrent ports because some jerkoff kept ... : MagicWishMonkey
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            :( I'd throw it on an FTP but you wouldn't get it before like 5 days from now : snowwolf
            • damn, hopefully some kindhearted person with a fat pipe will hook it up later :) : MagicWishMonkey
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  Holy Shit, this is really fucking good 8 Ghosts I- Fucking blowing my mind! : snowwolf
  • Yeah, I'm right around that area. It's good. : SockMonkeh
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  Favorite tracks thus far: 8 ghosts I 22 ghosts III 31 Ghosts IV 36 Ghosts IV damn good stuff :D : mrsparil
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    31 Ghosts was good. :D : DM7
    • its the best one : TheFatMom
  • I like all of them, but 26, 14, 3 are all great. : wykd
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  Some of these tracks remind me of the music Trent did for Quake, track 3 (3 Ghosts) especially. Great ... : DM7
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    track 3 - hall of ghosts? that was by far the best : liquidlies
    • err hall of souls ;) : liquidlies
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  thats the kind of music I would like to have in a video game : TheFatMom
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    I'm putting it in my Sins Of A Solar Empire playlist. : Helter Skelter
    • I'm thinking of doing the same with EVE Online : MisterPhoton
• Guys, please log off of the internet so I can download this. : nodge69
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  Gave up on the NIN.com download and just grabbed the Amazon version. This is fucking great. : Vincent Grayson
  • Yeah, I had to do amazon route as well. : chungathebunga
• I'm diggin' it so far. : NFXFSX
• You blew it up! You bastards! ... you blew it up! :( : Omaha
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  ARGH. The download failed so many times that all I get now is "exceeded download limit" I'm so annoyed :/ : sparkly
  • same thing, send them some lovely emails. I couldnt wait though, went the amazon route and it was don... : DonarUDL
• Nice job, onload. You broke the internet. Now what do we do? : Omaha
• I really want the 75$ one but 50$ shipping is ridiculous.. fix that then I'll buy it. : alexthegreat2
• soooo do i have to leave this 5kbps download running? or does it only count when it actually gives me th... : smacknca

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  Bowser is going to chomp you in the face and then toss you off the level. : DM7
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    And Kirby is going to swallow you and just jump off the stage. : DrFlammable
    • Fire Breath! >:[ ] ~~~~~~(>x_x)> : DM7
    • When you're drunk and there's a kirby doing that, it never gets old! : spazzium
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  A reminder that people should register themselves at ThomW's site and get ready to enter their game-speci... : Masem
  • When the fuck is live, or wii, or even psn just going to support system-wide clans so we don't have to go... : node
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  :( waited too long already. i want it now goddammit. it looks awesome, and the online play looks lik : barichnikov
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    I haven't played it online in a few weeks, but online play after launch was a disaster... their servers g... : Kenshin_
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      i saw a bunch of videos on youtube, showing no lag at all... it looked perfectly synched. : barichnikov
      • I only had 1 really laggy game and I bet it was because of the other player's crappy connection, however ... : Kenshin_
  • Online play is going to depend a lot on geography. I talked to a guy who was playing NY to Texas and he ... : Boxelder
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  Everyone is just gonna use Lucas anyways since he is just a more powerful version of Ness. : Crimsonbeak
  • I think you meant toon link. : Boxelder
• i hope my EB games calls a day or 2 before the release, they did that sometimes : they can process the sa... : barichnikov
• PIKA! PIKA! : Q-ball
• They nerfed my Peach. Now I might have to find some other fluffy character to humiliate people with :(. ... : Boxelder
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  BTW Pikachu got a pretty heft boost from mele. why? no one plays that rat anyway : Boxelder
  • I love him... he's my fav going back to 64 days. I could school all MOFO's with his ass. : Q-ball
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  I asked this yesterday, but can someone please tell me what controller is going to be best to play this w... : feek
  • Gamecube or classic : Serpico74
  • GC or classic I would say, but I have not played it yet. : c_man_tmt
  • Gamecube controller is the best. Then classic, then don't bother. : Boxelder
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    You will NEED a gamecube controller to play Melee. Asking what controller is best because a) no US sh... : MoreVespeneGas
    • The controls are the same as in melee, even if the physics and move characteristics have changed. : Boxelder
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    So will the classic not work with melee? If that is the case I guess I will just get a GC to use for both... : feek
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      Did you just skip over all the posts that said "classic"? : Serpico74
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        PS - Classic is what I saw it played it with at E3. : Serpico74
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          Fuck, I'm a complete idiot. Yes, classic won't play with Melee and buying a Gamecube controller to use wi... : Serpico74
          • haha alright. thanks :) : feek
  • I'm gonna use the gamecube one in the tournament. : Malku
• I can't wait to try out Pit and ZSS : c_man_tmt
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  Peach FTW!!!!111!11111oneone!!1111!1!2 They better not have fucked with peach's smash down A move. That... : Malku
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    Yeah, they actually made it pretty useless. It doesn't suck people in anymore so they only get hit once ... : Boxelder
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      Gameplay value just droped 75% for me then... Still buying it though. : Malku
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        Wait, so, they took away this one-hit wonder cheapo move and the gameplay value dropped? : Mad Jack McMad
        • It was good in a sticky situation :( : Malku
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  I wish you could buy a Classic standalone wireless controller. I hate having the Wiimote hanging off of ... : Judecca
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    gamecube wavebird controller : DrFlammable
    • Yeah, but I prefer the buttons on the classic. Specifically the shoulder buttons : Judecca
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  Related Question How will you guys play Brawl with your friends: I think the majority of the time m... : DM7
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    I'll mostly do the same, with randomization items off most of the time. Big item brawls are fun in small... : Boxelder
    • A game mode my friends and I always used to play for laughs was turn only pokeballs on and turn the spawn... : DM7
  • Yeah stock matches are what we used to do with Melee. : c_man_tmt
  • Was always a 5 stock match with no items. : Malku
  • We do stock 5 with items, because my asshole friends have fucking incredible aim with throwing items. : xsoulbrothax
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  i hope i can get this the day of release. i live close to a giant best buy and a giant futureshop right ... : dantastic
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    Best Buy is still taking pre-orders for $5, I'd hook that up just in case if I were you. : Head Rush
    • they don't preorder in store in canada. at least i've never seen them do that. they preorder online and... : dantastic
• A girl was playing this game at a local nerd store last weekend, and when someone asked how she was doing... : helvetica
• Fuck my life. : klearlyunseen

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  Because with few exceptions, the Academy forgets everything that happens before May 1? : RomSteady
  • Haha I find this to be true. : Koral06
• I have it sitting on my DVR in hi-def but haven't got around to watching it yet. : Dave-A
• I know, right. It was an EXCELLENT movie. : trOmblyj
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  yeah I mentioned that in the oscar thread... we came to the conclusion it was because it came out in like... : mikecyb
  • I would have liked to see it get a nomination for special effects, given the freakishly-realistic CGI cre : sgtsanity
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  There were so many amazing movies this year. I'm not sure about Atonement (I didn't see it), but any of t... : mittense
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    Viggo would have totally won if it wasn't for Lewis :( : mikecyb
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      I don't know. I thought that too until I saw In The Valley of Elah this weekend; Tommy Lee Jones' perform... : mittense
      • it's true : AlexXdude
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        that's great except Tommy lee Jones was up for best supporting actor and Viggo and D-Day were up for best... : mikecyb
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          fuck no he wasn't I am a moron DISREGARD THIS POST I SUCK COCKS : mikecyb
          • lol he finally admits : askedrelic
          • Let it out, mike. Let it all out. : trOmblyj
          • haha what a fag : mikecyb
          • Classic inf post, found this with my RSS reader. : razorblade79
        • Look how wrong you are. : mittense
      • okay so here's what I should have said: due to the academy being retarded, they would have given the awar... : mikecyb
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    I had previously said that casey affleck got robbed, but I finally saw No Country for Old Men the other d... : Omning
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      I didnt think he was nearly as good as affleck, he had a lot easier role to play.....just to sit there an... : bling1bling
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        Seeing what Javier Bardem looks and sounds like "normally" compared to his No Country character is pretty... : mittense
        • Yeah, the role may have been easier, but not the acting job : Omning
        • I'm curious how affleck acts normally. : bling1bling
    • true, but casey affleck definitely put on an awesome performance. it was a good year for movies : mallrice
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  because it was long, boring, shifted from one character to another wandering aimlessly around until it wa... : austere01
  • What you really wanted from Zodiac was the M. Night Shyamalan ending where it was revealed that Jake Gyll... : mittense
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    That's pretty much how the real investigations ended. : Prozium
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      Yep. I know quite a bit about it. So why was it so long again? : austere01
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        I thought it was a perfect length. I didn't know a thing about that case beforehand and it seemed like th... : NastyJack
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          I agree. : mittense
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            And here's the thing: I've spent a life time watching scary movies and to me Zodiac had two of the all ti : NastyJack
            • The latter is a near-perfect example of Fincher's excellent ability to build tension and maintain it for ... : mittense
            • Yep. That said though it was more a well done documentary than anything I'd consider a movie. : Duffman8369
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              yes the last scene was really nice. Just too bad it felt stuck into the end of the movie for no real pur... : austere01
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                and also, if we are talking movies that should of been nominated. This film, IMO, is definietely not one... : austere01
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                  I thought that flick was terrible. There was no tension, little atmosphere and no sense of a progression ... : Super Sparker
                  • it's OK to admit you have no taste in film. just let it out. : AroundTheFur1380
    • which makes me wonder why they would ever think it would translate well to film. i think Zodiac is probab... : gokart.
  • I don't agree on every single point, but I expected a lot more from this movie after hearing all the pres... : action wombmate
  • sgtsanity to this thread, sgtsanity to this thread : Foxhawk
  • To be honest that description fits No Country for Old Men better than Zodiac in my opinion. : Arsenal
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  too long. Like 4 hours too long. : c0bra
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    It's 2 1/2 hours long jesus. Have people really that short an attention span? : EvilDolemite
    • I have a short attention span when it comes to shitty movies. I sat threw half of it before nearly yawnin... : disposition
• because the fucking academy are fucking idiots. : brollercoaster
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  It should have ended at least 30 min before it did : melkore
  • It really was too long. : skinlab133
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  because it was a 5-hour string of subplots with no main thread. : DonkeyPopsicle
  • I think the main thread was the comic guy and the reporter trying to find the killer. I can see how you w... : NastyJack
• Thats the problem, the ending was actually good. Oscar people hate that. : socksta
• I can't believe Control missed out on any nominations :( : shavenewok
• Few movies give me that sick stomach feeling but that lake scene... ugh. Can't believe the guy survived t : Reavers!
• Because those assholes at the academy thought Atonement was actually a good movie : stuka
• I thought it was great except for the several pages of text at the end of the movie. : skitfish

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  FUck, FUCK, FUCK WHy did I watch? Why? You told me what it was. I had the distinct thought "It will be... : BingusLargus
  • do what I did and pretend there's a puppy trampoline on the other side of that hill. there's a puppy p... : MagicWishMonkey
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  LOL It's not a war until a puppy dies. : SockMonkeh
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    No kidding...as sickening as this video is, do people understand the atrocities that have occurred in Ira... : rt702
    • plus it's any iraqi puppy...obviously it's the enemy : papaskot
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      Apparently some people think it's all jokes http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16392286#itemanchor_16392... : mancide
      • judging from your vagina I'd guess you're posting from active duty in iraq : boring gegtik
• more like motard : boring gegtik
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  He killed a PUPPY? that's FUCKED UP. *shoots an iraqi child in the head* : boring gegtik
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    This isn't even a funny troll. : mancide
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      it's funny because it's true : boring gegtik
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        No, it is not really. If he shot a child in the head in a similar non-threatening situation it would be j... : mancide
        • no you don't understand the kid was throwing rocks at him!!! : boring gegtik
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          In my opinion, it would be much worse than killing a puppy, not "just as bad". : TShandy
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            You must be new here : mmogger
            • Yeah, I should have stayed out of this thread. : TShandy
        • ehh, I like dogs way more than people though.... : voodooraze
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      it's only funny if you know if the child is kurdish / shiite / sunni : itsjames
      • i lolled : boring gegtik
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  He might need to shoot people in the face, killing puppies shouldn't be a problem : d fluke
  • Note: I wouldn't hesitate to shoot *him* in the face though : d fluke
• There goes my puppy govt. :~( : DM7
• ahahahaha, OH NOES! A PUPPY. : papaskot
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  I worked at Wal-Mart with a guy who laughed about how he and his troops tossed around some young girl's s... : Hello Kitty
  • he was probably lying, and probably not the only lie he told about whatever role he spent overseas. h... : xxiv
• That wasn't very nice. : windowpane
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  Maybe the puppy was a suicide bomber, and he had to throw him over the cliff to protect the children. : voodooraze
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    apparently you think this is funny, asshole. : boring gegtik
    • Judging from your vagina, you're a slut. ;) : voodooraze
• Well thats one way to ruin the rest of your life. : soggybagel
• Soulsucker tags please. There's some really fucked up shit in this thread. : romulan
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  I thought I read somewhere that troops in Iraq had orders to shoot stray dogs on sight, due to potential ... : walker270
  • While that is wholly possible, I doubt throwing them off a cliff was part of that order. : mancide
  • You're partially right, there have been videos of soldiers shooting stray dogs and laughing it up when it : Lunatic Angelic
• yeah that puppy screach was sad. =/ : chilln
• >:( : riptyde
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  The green beret training has something similar. They make you raise a rabbit for 2 month (the selection p... : melt_core
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    Other high trained groups supposedly slit the throats of many, many, many pigs to get the feel and moveme... : walker270
    • i heard the final training for commandos in serbia is a tickle fight : sticman77
    • Hmmm.. Pork chops... : melt_core
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    all joking aside I think everyone should have to do this before receiving a meat eater's license : boring gegtik
    • yes and everyone should have to kill a terrorist to live in america and have their freedom license : nadasurf2
    • ...what? : Omaha
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      I think everyone just have to punch you in the stomach, just 'cause. : c0bra
      • s/just/should/ : c0bra
  • Eating and killing are one thing, throwing an animal off a cliff for enjoyment is another. If you are sup... : avatar_58
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    lol. no this doesn't happen. : xxiv
    • So the tv set lies? hahaha strawman, kekekeke, "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1", etc, etc, etc. : melt_core
  • lol I have friends who went to that selection and this is not true at all. It's not 2 months long, it's l... : Magus
• could be fake.. quality is really low, and the puppy goes completely out of sight for a second behind the... : fotografico
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  Yeah this guy a total asshole for cruelty to animals *munches on fried chicken* Fucking hypocrites... : SovietOrchestra
  • You're off base. : kainen1
• You know that was pretty fucked up, there was no need for him to do that. I probably would have smoked hi... : Magus
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  best Digg comment: "200,000 Iraqis - who cares? 1 Puppy - moral outrage!!!!" : cptstern
  • It's pretty fucked up that people are posting on his profile saying they hope he dies. It's a damned pupp... : Magus
• :( - peer pressure to be cool in front of your friends.....WHat a dickhead : sherwinpg

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  it's (sorry) : Foxhawk
  • haha it screamed out to me too : dantastic
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  Didn't The Sims already do this? : painangel
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    or even World of Warcraft : painangel
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      WoW by far in away. : baron calamity
      • Think about what you just wrote. : node
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      pac-man, mario : aeg1x
      • halo, grand theft auto : painangel
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    In some ways. I should have made it clear above, but in the Titanicness I mean a emotional resonation. Th... : geedeck
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      So basically an Ico MMORPG? : Matt Burris
      • Yeah, that's totally one way of putting it. It wouldn't have to be that, but it's a good example. And wit... : geedeck
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      Titanic had emotional resonation? : baron calamity
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        Haha, you know what I mean : geedeck
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          I always felt Titanic was Jurassic Park for girls. Don't get me wrong, I liked Titanic but its just speci... : baron calamity
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            Titanic is a great movie. It gets a lot of hate now because it was popular and made so much money : wtf242
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              And James Cameron made it, people must have been expecting Terminators and Aliens to appear and have suck... : Sailor of Fortune
              • he was sea obsssed before it... The Abyss!? : dedgecko
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            JURASSIC PARK was jurassic park for girls >:( : jenisthebest
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              Jurassic Park 3 was for girls, as it was wimpy and didn't have enough blood and guts. : Matt Burris
              • jurassic park is one of my favourite movies of all time and is one of the only movies i can watch repeate... : jenisthebest
            • hah, NICE! jurassic park will still be feeling that burn in the morning. : theLephty
          • Jurassic Park is awesome. : Mmmmmoo
    • I think it will be hard to reach that level of connection without a level of realism more capable of susp... : painangel
• Probably not for 20-30 years, or at least until games are accepted as something more than kid's only by t... : Chepito.
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  http://au.gamespot.com/pc/adventure/titanicadventureoutoftime/ : aeg1x
  • :( : geedeck
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    I played that game. God it was a pile of crap. : baron calamity
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      You should write a blog called "All the bad games I've had to play", because it seems like you really do ... : geedeck
      • Hey I found my usenet post about it. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure/msg/... : baron calamity
    • You're high. I thought it was awesome. : Rotten Deadite
  • More like http://au.gamespot.com/pc/adventure/starshiptitanic/ : mockery
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  Super Mario Bros? : enyakk
  • i'd agree with that. in the same way it hurt leonardo's reputation; nintendo = mario in many non-gamers o... : Klebold
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  In S. Korea, I'd say this has already happened with Starcraft. : bipolar
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    Are even adults about such aware about SC? I knew it was a cultural force, but wasn't sure how far it wen... : geedeck
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      It's on boxes of Kraft mac n cheese. There are Starcraft breakfast cereals. From what I understand, the... : bipolar
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        starcraft is huge here. I am not the resident expert on south korea (xphil is) but I've been downtown and... : Supine
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          Ah, right -- I knew you were in S. Korea. Played any HG:L lately? Some of the more recent patches seem ... : bipolar
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            not for the past month or so, no. HGL lacks endgame content, and it's very quick/easy to get to the endga... : Supine
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              :( : Rice-Rocketeer
              • Just play WoW. : [7]kami
    • at lunato's work place, the workers were divided into teams with labels: zerg, terran, protoss. *everyone... : sikander
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  Halo? : red2lucas
  • Halo is okay for right now, but I don't really think it caused non-gamers to care unless they were niche : geedeck
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  A 'Titanic' of gaming sounds like the epic fail of everything gaming... : gakera
  • I don't mean to copy it's art, but to have a cultural impact like it : geedeck
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  Games first have to get out of their male 15-24 rut and manage to reach all audiences, once that's accomp... : SpaecKow
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    er theres a fuckton of gamers in their early 30s : italiano3d
    • I don't mean to contradict you, because you're quite right, there are people playing games in their 30's,... : SpaecKow
  • the average age is 33. http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php : italiano3d
• In terms of pure "artistry," games, at least in isolated cases, caught up with the level of Hollywood at ... : Perturbation
• I do :) : dognose
• Tetris, Pacman,... : MrGrindy
• Wii and possibly Halo? : snowwolf
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  I think the interactivity of games works against their immersive qualities, and therefore against their e... : eldersveld
  • Good post. First thing I thought of, though, is how I will physically recoil when being shot in a game, ... : dognose
  • Thats rather dependent on what genre of game you are playing. I've played many adventure and even some FP... : thewindcriesmary
  • Fantastic post. : tomservo
  • This is in large part true, but there have been moments that really hit me hard, emotionally. In KOTOR, : bipolar
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    I think there is a certain point at which the individual player's DESIRE to be immersed becomes a pertine... : foxxo
    • Post more often please. : dognose
    • Seconded. For me, RPG's are all about exploration, and so I'll happily do the good and the bad quests, t... : TShandy
    • Good post, but IMO in an RPG where freedom is a big part of the design, exploring both the good and evil ... : DinK
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    I've found quite the opposite in some games. Having control over the interaction is exactly what pulls me... : ieGod
    • I probably got more emotionally invested in Max Payne than any drama film I can think of right now. : dognose
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    Not to belabor the point, but I thought of another example just now. Sometimes, even a game wherein ther... : foxxo
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      This is very depressing.... : Rasnowl
      • It is a wonderful story. I laughed, I cried, I slowly smoked a solitary cigarette, sullen. : dognose
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      Please, don't have kids. :( : Matt Burris
      • That was mean, I want to see more stories from this guy. : dognose
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        Don't worry, I think breeding is the most irresponsible, selfish, and misguided act one can undertake. : foxxo
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          So I guess you're a non-contributing member of society, then. : Magus
          • Considering the way he brought up his cow, i'd say that is a good idea. : [7]kami
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      You should think of peegs, they make everyone happy! : helvetica
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        Peegs inspire only EXISTENTIAL RAAAAAAGE : foxxo
        • Don't anger piggy: http://www.nflight.com/files/flashbangdevilpig.jpg ! : helvetica
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      This post is amazing. : ieGod
      • I love this post. I thought about it all the way to work today. : dognose
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      I remember feeling really sad about beating up the Cow just to see what happened, its the first time I've... : Grim_Grom
      • I was never able to beat up my cow, it made me feel bad :( : jenisthebest
    • Haha you should have cut that motherfucker up and had some steaks. : Lord Grey
    • Hahahaha : dltrem
    • You didn't beat your cow. You prematurely tenderized a steak. : RomSteady
    • Black & White was cooler than Black & White 2. : SockMonkeh
    • Wow, great great post. : crummynz
    • Take a look at what you did to him... go on. http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/2005/07/black_white_2... : jigstah
    • :( : GloriousCow
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    I think Lost Odyssey got it right on how thweir story is introduced portrayed and played out throughout t... : italiano3d
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      I haven't played it yet, but isn't it just a bunch of cut-scenes? : johngloid
      • well yes and no. Most of the cut scenes are real time in game fashioned like fmv. Theres alot of game the... : italiano3d
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    But can't that incorporation of your actions make it all the more powerful? Take Starcraft for instance, ... : geedeck
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      I think the root of the matter is how your identity, as a viewer or player, is appropriated. You used : eldersveld
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        I think that's correct. But what that leads to is that the interaction and decision-making in games needs... : tigeN
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          Yeah, basically. For mainstream audiences, the mechanisms of control, of experience just aren't sufficie : eldersveld
          • I know this thread is dead and no one will read it, but I was really impressed with the way Indigo Prophe... : Tawler
  • Beyond Good & Evil did. Although it required input (which I fully agree with you that it secludes the pla... : Smoochy666
  • Interactive, shinteractive..bleah. I play games to have fun - not to solely be immersed or worry about "... : wytefang
  • I completely disagree. Having a degree of control over the progression of the story can make the unfoldin : thetangent
  • I disagree, and I find horror games a perfect example of how your interaction with the enviroment adds to... : Splinebastard
  • Totally disagree. This is an extremely surface level example, but in Grim Fandango, I think part of the r... : jake2000
  • But unlike movies, games have the ultimate chance for immersion BECAUSE of the reasons you stated. Of cou : Charmplus
  • eldersveld, play System Shock 2 - for me still the most immersive game - sure the grafics are not "super... : Lukiopimp
  • Nah. Having pure, unbridled fun is a very powerful emotion. I'd go for that. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • Games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 were to me the most immersive of all, simply because I "was there".... : razorblade79
  • The mark of a good game is when the opposite is true. A game where you are encouraged to make harsh an... : T-900
  • I just wanted to comment a little bit. I think this piece is very well articulated and I do agree with mo... : unholydonuts
  • Totally disagree. Interaction in games is something that significantly helps remove a bit of the barrier : speon
  • Thinking about it I've deducted that the mods didn't quote this message because they agreed with it, but ... : Splinebastard
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  gaming is already mainstream, isn't it a larger market than movies already? We're just waiting for all t... : sroylance
  • Isn't the "larger market" thing based on amount of money? So, consider that it takes 10 cinema visits to ... : woddemandred
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  Isn't this WoW? With 10 million+ subscribers... Your bank teller and mother have a good chance of play... : rmjackson
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    Not exactly. That 30 million is worldwide. For the sake of argument, even if it was only the US, and assu... : weaselmeister
    • the non gamer management staff at a place i do work for plays wow. lol : italiano3d
• Eventually. I think games will pass through a few other "movements" before we get there. Currently we are... : whippedcracker
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  I'm pretty sure World of Warcraft is that game. Everyone knows World of Warcraft. : Vantage
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    I'm a gamer and I have never played wow. None of the people I work with have played it (there only one ga... : weaselmeister
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      Never seen it. And WoW's reach is certainly far beyond what any other game has manged or will for a while... : node
      • Sure, wow has a lot more penetration/recognition than most games. But still, the number of people in the ... : weaselmeister
    • i've never seen titanic. : pyide
    • I've never seen Titanic. : Arcanum
    • Haven't seen Titanic guy checking in. : tomservo
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      No plans to ever see Titanic. Perhaps Star Wars is better known? This could be an interesting subthread... : dognose
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        Gone with the Wind maybe? Which I've nevuh seen. : Dave-A
        • I only saw it last year, and Scarlett O'Hara was an obnoxious trollop. : tomservo
      • If you're asking for the movie seen by the most people at the time of its release then it would have to b... : lechuck59
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      I was dragged along to Titanic by friends. I played a month of WoW under similar circumstances. : A Sponge
      • LOL, same for me - I was too young to care too much about Titanic when it first came out, but a friend an... : thetangent
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      I've never seen Titanic, nor ever played WoW. However everyone knows about both. I think they occupy th... : Vantage
      • I have to agree, it's like World of Warcraft is a household name along the lines of famous celebrities an... : Magus
    • Everyone I know, besides the gf, has *not* seen Titanic, and I'm fairly sure there are no plans to see it... : hohoh0
  • I'm pretty sure it's not, most people I know have no idea what it even is. : FushigiDenki
• online poker? : Topaz
• You know how I know you're gay? : anhero
• Myst? : Mrc32
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  Tetris was that game. : Frozen Pixel
  • exactly : bling1bling
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  I ate too much candy so I'm going to ramble. All of this shit about "choice diminishes emotion" is bul... : LordPall
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    Epic post, I read it twice : dognose
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      It's a pet peeve. Caveat - I make video games, so I have strong opinions. : LordPall
      • Someone get this man more candy STAT! : pixelat3d
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    this is an inf and a front page bubble post. : anhero
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      Its ironic because what's in the bubble now, goes directly against what he is saying about video games. : bling1bling
      • And yet they are both awesome posts. : dognose
  • I... I'm going to run out and get you some more candy : Home Nugget
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    How much candy did you eat?! And what kind was it? : CrustaR
    • Also, you are going to have one hell of a sugar crash later on. : CrustaR
    • I wants me some of that shit : hardfl1p
    • nose candy : AbortedFetusChristi
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      All kinds. moved to Finland about a month ago so I'm eating all their candy. I got a bag of Re-Mix+ ch... : LordPall
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        I will never eat Dutch candy again D: : dognose
        • spacecake? : [7]kami
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    See my above response to geedeck - I think we're talking about different kinds of emotional involvement. : eldersveld
    • Yeah, we probably are. Plus, the term video games covers a hugely broad level of experiences. Video g... : LordPall
  • People don't understand player choice yet. As long as it's done as clumsily as it is in games right now,... : spiderfill
  • Great post. Fantastic summation. Keep eating weird candy. : carrioN luggagE
  • I don't disagree with your analysis, but unfortunately I have to say that it means that you're mostly doi... : action wombmate
  • fuck goddamn fucking use paragraphs fucking dude : jigstah
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  uh, halo2/3? can anything be more mass market? : maulla
  • obviously WoW has more players, but it gets nowhere as much media attention as a blockbuster like halo3. : maulla
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  The multiplayer FPS titanic: Quake 3 arena The strategy titanic: Starcraft The casual/everyday gamer ti... : mr.sleepy
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    you are probably right, there isn't an overarching "most people have played ______" the ONE GAME TO B... : Downforce
    • KOTOR 3 has my money already. Those fuckers need to get on that shit STAT. : thetangent
• Depends what you mean. Just on a level of icons, gaming reaches mass market, but so does Ronald McDonald.... : thebigbeefsandwhich
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  I think Wii Sports is that game, it's the one game that everyone I know is conscious of and most everyone... : FushigiDenki
  • *has = have : FushigiDenki
• Um, Pacman? Mario? These characters and their games are pretty substantial. Hell.. Tetris? Everyone... : freak!
• I have never seen Titanic or do you mean the actual ship sinking? : rosewood
• Like how this thread took around 3 seconds to go from "Do you think games will have mass appeal in the fu... : Kentor
• I hope not : mrtony
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  the more mainstream games get the suckier they become. I sure hope they dont get any more mainstream. : gyokuro
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    You're so indie and so cool. : lplasmatron
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      The Deer Hunter series being so popular kinda lends weight to his post though :/ : dognose
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        (and Halo) : lplasmatron
        • and cs : Sludgehead
        • get out : Magus
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      think about it. would you like a video game your mom, dad, and sister are playing? thats about as mainstr... : gyokuro
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        I played Doctor Mario with my mom. : soggybagel
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          I used to play Duke Nukem 3D and Doom with my dad. : jenisthebest
          • i used "and" not "or" : gyokuro
        • i played doctor with your mom too : MagicWishMonkey
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    I liked games better when they were underground. : soggybagel
    • I liked em before they sold out. : crummynz
  • you're one of those people who attach themselves to things that are relatively unique and niche aren't yo... : Charmplus
• No. I don't feel like writing a post about it. Whoops. : dltrem
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  DNF : sexninja!!!!
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    ♥ : dognose
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      You do know that the Titanic sank on it's maiden voyage don't you? : capt tripps
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        WTF SPOILERS MAN MODS NUKE PLZ : ejectorpod
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          and the Germans lost WWI & WWII : capt tripps
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            awww...I had money down for them : Fox n Panther
            • to think they were doing so well! : reverend~heresy
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            And the north won the American Civil War : thetangent
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              unfortunately for the North. : skinlab133
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                THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!!! ...someday : davislovestacobell
                • They've already had their revenge by electing dubya. : PlanetPerfecto
                • *cue Hell March with banjos* : d fluke
                • The South will not rise again. The reason so many Southern men wear such large belt buckles is because t... : RomSteady
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    More like Waterworld. : soggybagel
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      Waterworld Of Duke-Craft : FushigiDenki
      • I might play that game... : Lightbulb
  • Don't say that, after watching the recent teaser I am starting to get all Dognose about it! : NaklsonofNakkl
  • I swear to god, they better still have that Duke riding a donkey scene. : losder5000
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  I think Starcraft has already done that. : thetangent
  • Maybe in Korea... : lplasmatron
• I would say that the Wii system before I would pick a specific game. : capt tripps
• You mean the point where it's made clear the movies should be made for idiots and good movies are relegat... : stuka
• "How old are you? Only kids play video games. Grow up!" : DooBall
• Not to pimp my own recent article, but: http://www.polycat.net/1240 Basically, I think the only way fo... : mittense
• Viper Racing came close, but just missed the mark.. : skitfish
• Yes. And like Titanic, it will be mass appeal, flawed, and shallow. You could consider games like Halo... : T-900