Latest TF2 PC Update Adds Tournament Play

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• Best. Post. Ever! : noleh8r
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  You really need to add "slap in the face" in there somewhere. But this is quality regardless. : Mad Jack McMad
  • That's form #3A. Also includes the phrase "Guess I'll have to start looking for a new game." : Kaerof
  • I love "slap in the face" rhetoric. Fairly or not, it always brings Comic Book Guy to mind. : Johnny Law
• Hey weird. I didn't know shacknews got bought up by Blizzard and now linked directly to the World of Warc... : snot3353
• You should copyright this and sell it to community managers. Goddamn brilliant. : Sturm08
• HA aha HA, I am so printing this out and sending it in anytime Company Name Here ever does Nerf/Buff Here... : IHATEDUST

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• Dude, its because NASYJACK pwned valve with their own game and they said they would have to nerf the demo... : IHATEDUST

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• The demomens / soldier nerf is an anti-spawncamp move. If you're fighting in the battlefield there's ammo... : Mad Jack McMad
• Is this a joke? Having to hit someone directly is "luck" and hitting someone after 14 bounces or if they ... : crazypsycho
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  Uh, how is it luck? : OmegaRed59
  • The primary grenades used to explode if they made contact with someone after bouncing. The demo spam was... : Xevo
• Seriously? My biggest score is with the demoman (24 points, woo) and it happened after the original nerf.... : crummynz
• You really should be trying to hit people with airborne grenades by leading the same way you would with a... : synapse19
• This post is awesome. If you consider demomen kills luck you need to play a different class. Demos st... : FlamingGimp
• I seriously don't try to kill people that much as Demoman. I mean, I do when I have to, but I see my mai... : action wombmate
• I don't think the changes are that bad. However, the demo really didn't need the nerf. Either way, TF2... : boulder94

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  God forbid you have to pick up some more ammo. How about they just give everyone infinite ammo, then no c... : Trips
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    Along with an infinitely large clip so you never have to reload. : Xevo
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      Yeah. And screw fire delays. I want an endless stream of rockets coming out like a rope of explosive deat... : crazypsycho
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        what was that q2 mod? that was amazing. : anhero
        • Weapons Quake might be what you were talking about. I remember it had a version of the regular machine g... : action wombmate
• well thank Valve there is an ammo box on the way to B! : mrseldowski
• Haha. I bet you didn't even kill anyone either. Free frags and unlimited ammo... get on it Valve! : crazypsycho

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• Or if you wanted to just be able to ignore health/ammo completely, play Rocket Arena, Excessive, or Insta... : wviperw

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• Yeah have hardly noticed the difference in Pub Games... looking forward to an organised match to check ou... : VuduChild

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  32? More like 24 if it's 16+8. : razlebol
  • The update was wrong, the sticky ammo clip is 24 now. : Xevo
  • Yeah like Xevo said the release notes were wrong. 8 stickies in barrel and 24 in reserve for 32 total. St... : NastyJack
• although i played about as good as my 5 year old in our match against CT last night, I can say that while... : .frame
• Agreed. The grenade nerf was a bit strong, though it's more of a bitch for soldiers. : FlamingGimp

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• engineer isn't boring - youre just doing it wrong : eeeealmo
• If the engineer building is being sapped why should the engineer have control over it at that point? S... : baffula
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  The soldier/demo nerf should benefit the engineers, as they will have less ammo to destroy the engineer's... : Turin Turambar
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    They will also be taking more ammo from the dispensers, which means less metal for the engineer... : TheNiXXeD
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      ammo doesn't drain dispensers : duncandun
      • yep. that's why you can stand there as a heavy and constantly spam the minigun : tunis5000
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      Heh. Metal and ammo are stored separately in dispensers. : crazypsycho
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        Wow I had no idea. Many times I've stood bereft of ammo at a safe distance from a new dispenser for fear ... : jreid
        • Yeah, it's not readily apparent. In fact, you'll probably still have an eng or two yell at you because he... : crazypsycho
• Dispensers will be much more appreciated now by demos and soldiers. : OmegaRed59

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  Agreed. For me it was totally a feature not a bug, preventing me from having to juggle as many keys and b... : Fayk
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    Yup. I liked disguising as a friendly class, then cloaking, then hitting my last used disguise key and es... : Trips
    • http://www.tf2wiki.net/wiki/Spy_scripts#Spy_Quick_Disguise : crazypsycho
• Yeah, I didn't know that was a bug. : OmegaRed59

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  Hey I try to make your lives interesting. : Chris Faylor
  • Oh, you did. I learned a new poem that points out the comedy of the common mistake: Sally, having swal : Goncyn
  • So why don't you kill me? : molaughlen

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  Well, as a slightly-above-average-ish-at-times demoman on the couple rounds I played last night after, I ... : kungfusquirrel
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    you're clearly wrong and this is a horrible knee jerk change! : Lunaran
    • Absolutely not, it was only made after careful review of final final final viewnotes. : Mad Jack McMad
  • Yeah it's almost like... playing a pyro. : molaughlen
• Actually they reserved the grenades/stickies for the changelist. Ingame its: -Stickies: 8+24 -Gre... : MrLobo

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• Gotta move that gear up. : crummynz

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  Didn't someone make a post about the Pyro movie being shown at the GDC? I could be wrong tho.. : humbleone
  • Scout. : crummynz

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  I think it also covers servers using non standard rules. IE, no respawn times, no crits, more players, et... : kinnoch
  • Yeah, seems handy. : crummynz

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• It's not bad at all. I played for ~4 hours last night and only one time was I in any danger of running ou... : crazypsycho
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  Laying down covering fire doesn't mean you have no skill. And people will be relearning how to play th... : molaughlen
  • Covering fire != 5 full clips. 5 full clips = spam. : crazypsycho

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  Its made defense on gravel pit, well, crap. The map has 3 tiny ammo boxes by each CP (but in bad place... : Beady
  • This what they need to balance. More or larger ammo boxes available : niceguynick
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    I don't agree. We played CT on gravel pit last night and while having less ammo does suck, a well placed... : .frame
    • ^^ Good point. This makes for better team play. : OmegaRed59
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  Ya this makes me sad. I felt the Soldier was nerfed enough already with his slow speed and now this? What... : flasher 907
  • this isnt really that big of a nerf, i played soldier the majority of the time and almost never ran out o... : neodoom

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  Goodbye, "That xxxxx is a spy!" spamming :( : Gnerma
  • :( : alarm cock

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  UI for handling team naming, ready mode, and win results Disables team player limits, autobalancing, : Duffman8369
  • Yeah I changed blue team's name to ILTC on ShackWest last night. The first person to join the team is th... : bcyde
• I was wondering this myself : niceguynick

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• DAMNIT http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16374121#itemanchor_16374121 : paroxym