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• lol I'm watching the exact same thing. I think she's pretty good, actually, but damn she seems high as a... : Ovate
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  i had never heard her but what i heard on the grammy's last night sounded fucking great. i dunno. i re... : [fry]
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    My point is there are 300,000 girls out there doing this nightly in clubs with better voices and a better : Lunatic Angelic
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      those 300k girls wouldnt suck dick for coke and a record contract. : -=kodiak=-
      • Well not for both, no, it's usually one or the other. : Lunatic Angelic
    • I look at it this way, how many grammy winners have i actually cared to listen to. If she kills over they... : boomdeath
    • maybe they need to get some motivation then. : wetard
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      How is someone else supposed to have a "better feel for the material" than the original writer? : filtersweep
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        I don't mean her exact material, I mean a sardonic take on retro-blues. There are a lot of girls out the : Lunatic Angelic
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          Well, I guess we'll just have to wait until these legions of mystery singers actually start doing a bette... : filtersweep
          • Oh, they're out there doing it, it just appears they aren't being prepackaged and delivered as she was. : Lunatic Angelic
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      Women seem to think she is "courageous" for being successful despite all her drug problems. No, I am n... : riptyde
      • Women some women : jenisthebest
• I find her to be atrociously obnoxious and hideously ugly. All that and she's an insane drug user. Wh... : virus
• FRESH AND IN YOUR FACE ??!?!? : Downforce
• Who said drugs were bad for you? : Koral06
• the woman is a fucking trainwreck. People like to watch self destructive carnage. : Fyunch Click
• She's not a very good live act anymore. I think the horse tranquilizers and crack cocaine/Drain-O cocktai... : Ajax
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  yeah but the grammys are the laughing stock of award shows, which is like some sort of bus full of retard... : mikecyb
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    well, except for the retard. : Bean
    • who's happy he has a new drawing medium. : Fyunch Click
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    It's like they give away the awards to who teenagers *want* the award to go to. Which makes the best alb : Lunatic Angelic
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      I heard that grammys are actually voted on by fans a while back, though I'm not sure if I was misinformed... : mikecyb
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        that's the American Music Awards, Dick Clark's music award show. : Fyunch Click
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          oh. also backstreet boys seem to have a bunch of nominations but no wins and I can't find any info on wi... : mikecyb
          • She'll have to sell it like OJ sold his Heisman. : Fyunch Click
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  I tried to like her after a shack thread a couple days ago. I just don't like her though. : great-white
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    I don't even care about her personal sideshow. This isn't very good compared to a lot of amateur jazz si : Lunatic Angelic
    • Yeah. That was basically what I got. I mean, she has a decent voice but overall i found it bland, and alr... : great-white
    • You act like this hasnt happened a million times before in the music industry. Very talented, hard workin... : Degenerate
• She's good, but I think overall Feist is better. It just shows how awards shows for the most part are "fl... : Fred Garvin
• last night's performance isn't representative of the album. listen to it, it's really good. : biskits
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  Anybody that starts a verse with "What kind of fuckery is this? You made me miss the Slick Rick gig." is... : filtersweep
  • ^^^ trying to find their next level dealer right now ^^^ : Degenerate
  • For reals. I love her. : Rauol Duke
• She has a good voice, but her songs are pretty fucking dumb. : Vincent Grayson
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  it is fucked when mother fucking soulja boy gets nominated for motherfuckin rap song of the year : creep
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    he supermaned ya didnt he? : Degenerate
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpj2BnL3w50 : creep
      • wow is this for real? : wtf242
      • I just got my report card, throw some Ds on that bitch WTF : Serpico74
      • i lasted for about 20 seconds, utnil he said YAAAAWWW and reminded me of that terrible dave chappelle ski... : bfzzzz
      • oh fuck everything : Ajax
      • good sweet merciful wtf omg : Downforce
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    lmao : Downforce
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      quiet mr. espresso man :( : creep
      • yeah I made another one and I'm blasting liquid swords to clear out your previous link, sir : Downforce
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    are you kidding that song is a musical tour de force! : mikecyb
    • lyrical I mean :( : mikecyb
    • shut the fuck up traitor :( : creep
  • that is really really sad : derelict515
  • u jus jelus : wetard
  • youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu : arizona bay
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    The state of rap/hip hop today is pathetic. It's all been driven underground. : the city
    • it seems like it's pretty much merged w/ R&B e.g. Akon and T-Pain and shit. : wetard
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      at leaast i have http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/video_archive.php to keep me sane. and surfing throu... : creep
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        It's nice to know I'm not the only one who's permanently stuck in the 90's when it comes to hip hop :( : SpaecKow
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          Let's make a club <3 : the city
          • I'm in. : ghostnote
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      yeah, I'm really wondering how long it can last... hopefully it passes... ;_; : derelict515
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        how long what can last? : genjuro
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          wanna hear my ringtone? >:( : creep
          • Creep, what are you doing? : genjuro
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        Murs is trying to bring the underground to the surface... whether or not he will succeed is to be seen th... : the city
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          there is tons of great hip hop to be found both mainstream and underground, you just have to find it. i... : arizona bay
          • I don't believe there is any good mainstream hip hop right now. I'd go so far as to say hip hop doesn'... : the city
• Thank you! I thought I was the only person who didn't understand what was so great about her. I listene... : TabsAZ
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  Her great voice and talent : ColoradoCNC
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    I hate to break it to you, but there are likely 20 or 30 girls in every high school in America that can s : Lunatic Angelic
    • let the hate FLOW through you... : MoreVespeneGas
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      I've worked in and around theater my whole life, and I have heard very few women with a soulful sound lik... : ColoradoCNC
      • I hope she was stoned off her rocks then. Most of my life has been filled with vocal and instrumental ar : Lunatic Angelic
• generic old sounding blues rock is the new nirvana : cpt_gloval
• ohhhhh... I had to look her up and find a song to realize who she was. There's one hitsong that she has t... : Fredrik S

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• I'm waiting for slacking shackers to start playing :( : daedraug
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  cowardly demomen are cowards. brickmatt is a good captain. The fighting mongooses will, somehow, defeat... : thief
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    Sentries are irrelevant! : zebosausamite
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      Spies are worthless. : A Sponge
      • It's 24 degrees. Always. : thief
      • except for evil dolmite : virus
    • While playing Dustbowl I sap a sentry, ha ha! The engineer cries. : Trips
  • your third point is not possible : redfive
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    Nothing in this post is true. : NastyJack
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      But, but... there's a demo of you playing spy very briefly in Round One! : Xevo
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        That was a spy, as me, as a spy. Tricky bastards they are. : NastyJack
        • Wow so did his team see "Disguised as NastyJack disguised as Demoman"? What would that mask look like... : Xevo
    • Aww. =( : brickmatt
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    They will not beat TPB. This is not a theory so much as it is a law. : mittense
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      I feel bad agreeing with you as I'm on the other team, but if we get some teamwork down -- we've never ev... : thief
      • ^^ don't believe his sneaky spy lies : itsjames
    • let the proclamation ring true! : SolveChrist
  • I'll make the next one for sure! as long as it's held at 8:30 PST or later on weekdays : edgewise
  • how many times must you post that demomen are cowardly. Give it a rest, yeesh : kainen1
• Where are the best spots to place sentries on the 3rd dustbowl point (i think its third, the one with the... : chuck577
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  i wanna try that bball map, where are people playing that? : GonzoRookie
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    I want a 3v3 game. Doesn't have to be a tournament. I need five other people to petition an admin to ru... : thief
    • could name it the "and1 server". : GonzoRookie
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      k...Im gonna set one up. : devnullgt
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        well...in a bit...have a conference call right now : devnullgt
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          oh sweet. : thief
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            it will be up at bball.empx.net I am setting it up now...still downloading the steam files onto anoth... : devnullgt
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              Damn man how many servers do you own :) : MrLobo
              • 3 right now...but one of them is going away...but I can probably use some company stuff in texas if I RE... : devnullgt
            • A shame I'm on campus until so late! : thief
            • I am all over this once it goes up... count Lebron James in! : Xevo
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              Oh man, I am all over this. I still haven't figured out how to cap as a scout. : Zero|DPX
              • They were saying double-jump+crouch but I couldn't make that work... I did see someone jump off of one of... : Xevo
            • Sweet deal. : midgetherder
            • won't connect :/ : thief
    • mm, there are some specific players I want to play against. xeno, you're one of them. fireman, too. : thief
  • i want to as well :( : jenisthebest
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    I claim complete and total credit for hooking the shack on this map. Checks made out to "CptTrips" plz. : Trips
    • dude you're trippin.... : Demius
    • It's good to know who put that pile into the rotation. Maybe if the point limit went to 5 before it rota... : Grumbeld
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  Statistic which shows why LKS is going to win this tournament: Teams, and number of players over 90 PP... : lakren
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    Wow... you're really scared of facing us (if you manage to take out VA). Don't worry, we'll try to make ... : Grumbeld
    • I can't wait to watch you guys play LKS. You guys are a great team. And they certainly have been talkin... : kainen1
  • I hope underdog wins. : Edges
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  Snuffles and I just set up 2 sentries in the enemies attic on well, it was well boss. my daily contributi : pieman
  • Totally wizard! : A Sponge

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• your the man hirez : Jackass1233
• you're the bomb, hirez. : thief
• you're the shit hirez. : virus
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  To all who didn't know: On maps like Well and Granary, if you spawned right before your team captured one... : sanchez
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    I think you were the last shacker to find out :) : Demius
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      I knew of this a long time ago, Jackass and one other medic on our team didn't know about it last night. ... : sanchez
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        yeah that was me! i thought you ragequit or something, i was sad for a second. : bfzzzz
        • but only a second right? :D : Demius
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    I can't believe I didnt know that until you told me last night. That is fucking crazy, i can't believe al... : Jackass1233
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      My favorite quite from teh game: "Good job Mr. Ass" :D : Demius
      • quite = quote >:( : Demius
    • hahaha, you're such a fucking noob. : nyranger66
  • I didn't know this :( : Portax
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    can you switch to the same class? : flubba79
    • no, just switch to another class and quickly switch back to your previous class : sanchez
    • best thing to do is try it out. otherwise just switch classes twice : Crimson
  • Yeah, but it sucks when the opposite happens and the other team captures a point right before you spawn. ... : Grimp
  • I didn't know this. Thanks! : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Holy crap, I didn't know this : Zero|DPX
• Nice Update hirez! I can't wait for round 2! : SolveChrist
• You're the win hirez. : zebosausamite
• You are the wind beneath my wings Hirez. : NastyJack
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  you can just call the tournament if you want right now, i don't see LKS having any competition. : lakren
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    Who? : zebosausamite
    • http://www.louiskemp.com/images/ho-im01.gif : chuck577
  • You pussies don't stand a chance against the behemoth that is OGC. : SockMonkeh
  • Wow lakren, I realise you're slightly lacking up there but to entirely forget that you are facing the mig... : A Sponge
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    I love how you think you have this so in the bag. :D : virus
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16231737#itemanchor_16231737 stats don't lie also i love how yo... : lakren
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        you're delusional. : virus
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          people called Copernicus delusional also. : lakren
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            You're not Copernicus. : virus
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              Actually, he is. : DrFlammable
              • Oh - I thought you were. k : virus
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      if our team shows up even half way you guys dont have a chance. did you see how we beat down njob without... : feek
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        so what - we didn't even have 2 of our top players for our match and BoS didn't even come close. I thi... : virus
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          bos didnt have their top player either.... lol : feek
          • lolz <snicker> : virus
      • i cant believe i'm reading TF2 shit talking. I hope you guys get thrashed. :D : kainen1
  • Look at him, he's shaking. : Grumbeld
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    who's on LKS that makes them so good? : deject
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      jackhammer johnson the legend himself : lakren
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        Goddammit lakren, I hate pressure. : FlamingGimp
        • I love pressure, I eat it for breakfast. : Demius
• You are a tiny god, hirez. : c0bra
• you are the king, hirez : Nitrium
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  That esportsea.com page would be really cool if it had team listings... did I just miss them? : Jonathan
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    nah, Hirez didn't put them in... http://ems.esportsea.com/?a=teams&tournamentid=1487 : Demius
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      Ah well that really is a cool site then :( : Jonathan
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        I personally like this page better: http://ems.esportsea.com/?a=standings&stageid=1757 .. wonder why.... : Demius
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          2 - 0 bitches. : sanchez
          • you guys are a good team! : thief
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  You fuckers need to turn sprays back on, you're missing all my awesome animated ones :( : sanchez
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    Blame the faggots who use the disgusting sprays. : boredguy
    • meatspin isn't disgusting, it's hypnotizing. : sanchez
• man we missed winning gravel pit by like 5 seconds too :( : mikecyb
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  SERIOUS BUSINESS, I know brickmatt would love to set up a scrimmage with you guys if you want some more '... : thief
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    I'm not sure the team would be down for that now that we're out, but I can ask around : megarust32
    • dunno, I figure it'd be a good way to get a practice in and play against a team we otherwise wouldn't hav... : thief
    • I'd play because TF2 is awesome but after two crushing defeats I am not sure my delicate psyche can take ... : mikecyb
    • i might be down to play in a scrim : Chandler55
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      I'd be down to play some more. I feel that my e-reputation has been tarnished. NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK ... : gnomish
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        We can erectify this situation. You haven't seen the last of SERIOUS BUSINESS. SERIOUS BUSINESS doesn't... : megarust32
        • pros only bro. also I'm not allowed to medic any more. I'm like a sticky magnet :( : mikecyb
  • Well done! : brickmatt
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  Do we have any incoming demos of these latest games? Thats pretty awesome to watch on stage6, keep those... : flubba79
  • mine are all on my shackspace : virus
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16227110 : bipolar
    • but i would like to see them on stage6 so i can see them while i'm at work. : flubba79
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  Deploy a Teleporter Here vs. PRESS F10 - tenetive Wednesday : rosewood
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    woohoo i'll no longer be on a wireless hotel connection playing at 640x480 on my lenovo turdlaptop!:) Ca... : .frame
    • lol good. : xxiv
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  You bring a tear to me eye, hirez. : monkeygone
  • its all the colors, isnt it? : hirez
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  If any other server operators are able to record demos directly on the server, like devnullgt did, that w... : rock elf
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    link to that demo? :( : Demius
    • http://devnullgt.com/tf2/demos/ from this thread: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16227236#itemanchor... : rock elf
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    I have this set up on ShackWest and NKOTB, and I'll be uploading the sourceTV demos tonight as well. : hirez
    • pure awesomeness! : Grumbeld
    • Fuck yeah! : midgetherder
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  Demos/Screens from SR vs tfm (repost): http://home.comcast.net/~richeyk/tfm_vs_sr_dustbowl_offence_vyn... : vynn
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    awesome. I'll add these to the mix. : hirez
    • does anyone have hltv demos for this game? I would be very interested + grateful! : itsjames
• Hirez, you rock man! Tourney has been badass thus far : Concrete
• Gotta echo the love for hirez here. Awesome job. I will be cheering on Zaun's team from here on out. : gnomish

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• oh I am so there...FORTHEMAKRON : flagg209
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  ET:QW FOREVER! DEATH TO TF2! : SovietOrchestra
  • tf2 needs some chadwarden love : flagg209
• SSS! : P47h063n
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  Actually, you're more like Dennis Kucinich... Many people's top pick, but ignored by the vast majority. ... : Grumbeld
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    I am both flattered and insulted. : RyDogg1
    • Then my work here is done. : Grumbeld
• heyoooooo : eeeealmo
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  Quake Wars Question. I havent' been able to play do to a error I started to receive after the 1.4 patc... : Fluffy_Bunny
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    Have you updated your Punkbuster? : RyDogg1
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      I started updating punkbuster before every time I play. However I still receive the "connection to onlin... : Fluffy_Bunny
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        Tried sticking your PC out in a DMZ? Just to eliminate a firewall issue. : RyDogg1
        • Yep did that as well. no go. Reinstalled Quake Wars as well. : Fluffy_Bunny
      • try reinstalling the services for punkbuster, some have claimed that it works http://www.evenbalance.com... : P47h063n
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      How does one "update your punkbuster"? : Goncyn
      • http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=dl-etqw.php Go grab the pbsetup for windows, point it to you... : RyDogg1
  • most likely this is punk buster - good luck with that... : flagg209
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  lol : razlebol
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    Oh I see someone is wanting a demotion. : RyDogg1
    • :( : razlebol
    • How about payment for my good and loyal service? hah : razlebol
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  I played the new demo once this weekend. I still kind of didn't know what was going on, although it was d... : Silent Sorrow
  • http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11603&highlight=tutorial : RyDogg1
  • http://4newbies.planetwolfenstein.gamespy.com/ETQW/index.php : P47h063n
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  Railroad'd: the TF2 tourney is hot and sexy as the next round of matches happened over this weekend. you ... : m0rfus
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    Maybe you didn't watch that Balls of Steel vs VA match. : RyDogg1
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      Maybe your shitty attitude was part of it. : laurgasms
      • You can't blame me on this one, I didn't even play. : RyDogg1
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      I watched those matches again. They were awesome. Sure there was some ugliness at the end of the last p... : mrwolf710
      • Yeah, other than being frustrated at sucking, I really thought things were OK attitude-wise until the end... : Zero|DPX
  • Where ShackFriends become ShackEnemies - read about it on Monday! : ahk-med
• I guess I better get this game. TF2 is stale. : lowayne
• I'LL BE THEREEEEEEE : Nitrium
• So there. The game owns! : Wolfanoz
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  Stop making me want to buy this game again : Begawkiness
  • There are some hilarious moments in the game like watching the Bumblebee go up in flames and seeing the d... : P47h063n
  • What do you mean by "again?" : RyDogg1
• Or the Giants to the Patriots at least? : pigvomit
• I'm there. The Shackbattles for this game make it worth playing. These matches are the most fun I've ha... : mrwolf710
• Late afternoon bump. : RyDogg1
• VICTOLY! CONCLUSION! : Cliffzorz
• I'm horrible at it but I'll give it another go if something doesn't come up : melkore
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  I will stop in for a bit. I'm disappointed I couldn't make enough time to play this weekend. I've almo... : bigblack
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    lol... taking the numbering a little too personally ehh : P47h063n
    • Only while our points are close. I don't think I'll overtake black13, unless he quits all together. : bigblack
• I'm a Strogg, and I approve of this message : TheQuad
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  woot woot woot I feel the wind of change blowing on my cheek! Or maybe blowing out my cheeks.... regardle... : Lightzout
  • If you care about protecting the environment you know killing Strogg is not just about words its about ac... : Lightzout

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  It depends, In multiplayer... It's generally easier to turtle for the first 10-20 minutes without having ... : duncandun
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    lol, good to see my build order is almost identical to yours ;-) : MisterPhoton
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      <spelling nazi> it's capital not capitol</spelling nazi> : ysbreker
      • yeah haha, I dunno whut i was thinking. : duncandun
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        Are you sure? Capital = money Capitol = the seat of the government for a country I'd think you... : Grumbeld
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          Capitol - The building where the government sits Capital - The city where the Capitol sits Also, here... : MisterPhoton
          • Yeah, I thought there was a chance I was wrong... still I wish it was my way... stupid words with same sp... : Grumbeld
  • Sweet! Thanks! : walker270
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    Each race also a sort of healing/support unit that you should have a few of in every major fleet as well.... : mittense
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      Well, the low level grunts are more exspensive / and / take up more supply than artillery pieces. Jave... : duncandun
      • Yeah, but the long-range frigates tend to be fragile little butterflies; the point of the grunts is to ac... : mittense
    • I was shocked how much punishment 30 of those battlecruiser-things could take with 10 robotics cruisers b... : daedraug
  • Good infos. : Nick Breckon
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    Good advice - although I wonder why you don't have more love for capital ships? Once they've gotten a cou... : thetangent
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      Capital ships are useful, but going batshit crazy on purchasing them is counterproductive. If you have a ... : mittense
      • To add on to that I played last night with a single capital ship since I only got two planets and couldn'... : mittense
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        I like to think of it as investing in the future though, getting them out there and fighting early on let... : daedraug
        • This is true, but sometimes I'd rather research 3-4 techs early game than I would research the capital sh... : mittense
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        aah, good point. I personally like to sort of turtle up till my economy is going really well. Then I can ... : thetangent
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          It's quite easy to do. I always dedicate one planet(generally one thats in the back... or less accessible... : duncandun
          • It's actually around 160, as I have -60 per second from fleet upkeep. : duncandun
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            I think you meant logistic slots, not tac slots, since trade ports use logistics : MisterPhoton
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              yeah. my bad. : duncandun
              • last night I ended up with a desert planet in the middle of my territory...I had it almost completely loa... : MisterPhoton
    • Capitol ships are fine, I have no problem with them. When I was talking about fleets, I was talking about : duncandun
  • Thank you so much for this post. : crummynz
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    you can put more than 1 mine on an asteroid? I'll be damn. : jonin
    • No you can't. He means that he puts 3 three extractors down, because there are three resource rocks in yo... : OverloadUT
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    What's your opinion of the TEC Akkan Battlecruiser? It has a colonize ability, a squad of fighters/bombe... : Arcanum
    • The Akkan is fine, unless I'm playing as advent, my second capital ship is always either the Dunov or a A... : duncandun
  • Thanks for this, games take quite a while to play, and figuring this stuff out on my own would take a lon... : famine101
  • Thanks, that was enlighening! : MatzL.E.
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  anyone wanna play? i have 3 slots in mah 10 player fFA game :) : duncandun
  • I'll play when I get home. : SockMonkeh
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  /hate Info'd! rad. : duncandun
  • 1 Mod says thanks, hundreds have been silent so far.. : Jonathan
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  Ok, I'm buying this game this night as soon as I arrive at home. : Nitrium
  • Sweet! I get to eat tonight! : mittense
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  Is there a list with all the ships + techs? I want to read that stuff while not in the game so I can figu... : Modulus
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    here's the manual, it has all the ships in it, but not the techs: http://issuu.com/viewer?mode=embed&d... : MisterPhoton
    • This is how EVERY Game manual should be released from now on : graceofdragons
• Thank you very much! I have to dedicate some serious time to this. : Sylvanus
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  D E R A I L ' D Can someone who bought the game retail use the Stardock Central application to manage ... : liqker
  • Yeah, you should be able to. : mittense
  • I believe you can. You just tell Stardock Central what your CD key is, and then it knows that you own it. : OverloadUT
  • Yes, you can. You can even do a complete install through SDC without ever having put the DVD in a drive,... : Arcanum
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    You actually have to use SDC to patch the game. Once you have the game installed, things seem largely the... : famine101
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      You can download patches on the website; SDC is not required to patch. : OverloadUT
      • Ah. I stand corrected then. Sorry, thanks. : famine101
  • Thanks everyone :) : liqker
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  Guys get on and join my game. :/ : SockMonkeh
  • It wont let me:( : duncandun
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  So how RTSy is this? I'd LOVE something like this, only turn based. : sammyl
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    Its so damn slow paced its like a turn based game. : Nighteyes
    • Yeah, on the slower speeds it feels much like a turn-based game. I'm more of an RTS gamer, though, so I r... : mittense
  • The pacing of this game reminds me of the Europa Universalis series. They both are real-time games in set : Psigun
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    It's basically a very slow paced RTS, with research. It does not satisfy my craving for a new MoO. Your m... : Goncyn
    • It doesn't completely satisfy the 4X gap, but it sure takes the edge off for me. It's a shame MoO3 turned... : Psigun
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  I looooooooooooooooooove to spam illuminators. Like...SPAM them. Seriously, frigates are awesome. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • me too:) They are so fun. Espescially throwing them into the middle of a big fight, that way they are doi... : duncandun
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  I'm playing now, against AI. Two quick questions - How can I make empire tree always display all pla... : dael
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    - You have to click the little 'pin' button in the upper left once you've selected an unpinned object. Yo... : Psigun
    • thanks! : dael
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  Another quick question, I'm still playing... against the AI. I have 4 planets now and only 2 metal ext... : dael
  • Ice planets are always Crystal, volcanic are always metal, Asteroids generally have 2-1 ratio if they hav... : duncandun
  • Selling what you have extra of and buying the other resource I find to be a very very common thing to do ... : OverloadUT
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  Ok, managed to win the AI on easy on the smallest map! I'm watching the graphs at the end, can I save ... : dael
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    It is already saved! : OverloadUT
    • wow you're right, it's still missing the last 30 minutes? : dael

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  this seems a little more forgivable since it's an older title just getting released in the US, but still ... : sticman77
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    Why is it forgivable for older titles? : Bull
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      they were still getting used to the bat shit crazy architecture, and had no workarounds for streaming tex... : sticman77
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        I didn't think older PS3 titles needed to do a huge install. Isn't DMC4 the only other game with a big in... : Bull
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          yes, these are the only two. i am saying it is more forgivable for an older title to have it required th... : sticman77
          • Yeah but older titles didn't require the install. If a new title like DMC4 comes along that requires a bi... : Bull
        • There are other games that have optional installs and ones with smaller required installs as well. : Fred Garvin
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  hot shots is one of the games I want a PS3 for. :( : Degenerate
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    Same, I fucking love me some Hot Shots. This one looks pretty hot. : atom519
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      I've only seen screens of it and it looks good. I'm assuming it has online multi right? : Degenerate
      • I'm pretty sure it does, not 100% though. Here is the trailer. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/3... : atom519
  • IAWTP! Everything else on the system is meh. But my first hot shots game is the one I have for the PSP... : FormerHPB
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  I want an online version for PSP. : pigvomit
  • This would be fantastic. : FormerHPB
• wow, so install this and DMC4, you get 10 gig of drive space filled. Cool. : FormerHPB
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  I wonder if this practice is going to become more and more commonplace as developers start trying to push... : Ajax
  • I am sure it will since it does help a lot. : razlebol
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  some great comments on that page: have a 20GB PS3, it's now a 160GB PS3...the upgrade cost me $75 and : FormerHPB
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    They aren't actually, since games don't require an install : EvilDolemite
    • Plus to be pointlessly picky he's not counting the cost of that 20GB hard drive he bought as part of the ... : DinK
• I don't care, I'm still buying it. I'm a sucker for hot shots golf. :-( : marblehead
• My friend was belly aching about this to me last night, how it's exactly the same as DMC4 : great-white
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  So...? More and more titles will probably continue doing so since it improves loading. Are you going to p... : razlebol
  • It's a non-issue anyway. DMC4 was supposed to take 20 minutes, took maybe 10. Even if it took an hour, wh... : MoreVespeneGas
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    Yes, I am going to post, just to piss you off. Are you and the PS3DF going to post every time someone say... : Fred Garvin
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      You remind me of Diddlyd except for the 360 and since most people are in favour of the 360 than the ps3 y... : razlebol
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        Not even fucking close. : Fred Garvin
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          you've been one of the most vocal XBOX supporters here for years. you used to drive me fucking crazy bac... : grendel
          • Fred may be an xbox fanboy but diddlyd is on a whole different level : derelict515
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            http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16232877#itemanchor_16232877 : Fred Garvin
            • Also, I have owned a PS2 and Gamecube and will own a PS3 at some. People like diddlyd will never give in ... : Fred Garvin
      • lol http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16232508#itemanchor_16232508 : Edges
    • Not that I'm defending the PS3, but you seem to go out of your way to post any slight against it. : ieGod
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      PS3+BluRay is a better system. XBox has better online (and currently more game support) Big whoop! : icon_of_syn
      • Uh oh... don't go there. : Edges
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        Define "a better system". : Fred Garvin
        • bigger and blacker : derelict515
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          No RROD for starters : MoreVespeneGas
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            Reliability aside, what makes it a better gaming system? It doesn't have better games, the hardware is be... : Fred Garvin
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              That's a pretty big "aside"....at least in my eyes. : Frank_Mackey
              • I do understand that as I have been on the bad end of a RROD, but I still have no regrets over my purchas... : Fred Garvin
        • Amazingly quiet. I'm now a PlayWii60 owner, and quite frankly I'm amazed at how quiet the PS3 is compa... : walker270
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        nice troll : derelict515
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          Wasn't trolling. I don't own either, I have objectively played both and read about them however. I stan... : icon_of_syn
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            Apparently you do give a fuck or you wouldn't have posted and your "opinion" means squat when all you can... : Fred Garvin
            • My opinion is far more superior than yours. That's a fact. Oh, and I only watch foreign films. : icon_of_syn
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    How can you think all future consoles will? The 360 version of DMC4 doesn't require an install and the lo... : Bull
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      Because a DVD9 reads faster and future consoles will probably all have HD disc. So unless they make readi... : razlebol
      • yes because optical disc drives never get faster historically : blarrr
      • disc speeds always get faster. always. : AroundTheFur1380
  • I highly doubt that : derelict515
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  so what happens when you fill up your HDD with installs? you gotta delete older ones? and if you wanna pl... : edgewise
  • yep bingo. the one thing that worries me about this needing lots of hdd space to install. its a bad move ... : CoRDS
  • Not possible with the current library, but yeah you would have to remove the install data (not the save d... : MoreVespeneGas
  • Hmm, I never thought of that. That does seem like a really big drawback. : Sexpansion Pack
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    yup, so those with 40gb PS3s will be able to play 7-8 games at once before they have to clear off space a... : derelict515
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      or even less depending on how big Home is or if they want to dl demos and other things. : edgewise
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        very true, or HD media if Sony is hoping to turn the PS3 into a media center like the 360 is trying to be... : derelict515
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          But they provide all the tools for replacing the HDD so you can always start increasing capacity as you s... : bad_fish
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            that is not a solution for the mass market, not in the least : derelict515
            • No kidding. When people fuck up a simple CD burn on a regular basis there is no way I'd trust them to rep... : Fred Garvin
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      There aren't 7 games on PS3 that require installs that could do this. Some games it's required, others it... : MoreVespeneGas
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        no to mention sony tells you how to upgrade your hdd, should you ever choose to do so. : MoreVespeneGas
        • can it be haxored to access a network share? \\HTPCwithlotsofspace\PS3goeshere ? : Downforce
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          and this, while an awesome feature for the hardcore, is not an excuse as the vast majority of people woul... : derelict515
          • an excuse for what? while i think installation should be an *option* always, and sometimes it isn't, ... : MoreVespeneGas
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        I meant 2-3 years down the line. It'd be a pain in the ass if you decided to pop in DMC4 for another play... : derelict515
        • i guess, but it's not that big of a pita. not to mention in 2-3 years if you find yoruself running out of... : MoreVespeneGas
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      Who plays 7-8 games at once? : Tommy Toolbag
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        I have at least that many partially played games on the go. : Fred Garvin
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          AADD? : Tommy Toolbag
          • I highly doubt I am the only Shacker with a list of partially played games. : Fred Garvin
      • likely a huge percentage of the shack population? : Downforce
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  So, are these installs required? Because I mean it would be really shitty to have to delete installed gam... : Yanks
  • yes they're required. I've had PSN titles and demos require 5min+ installs as well and if you delete it y... : derelict515
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    Some like DMC4 are, other games have optional installs. : Fred Garvin
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      I don't think there is any that are optional. All the ones that I saw were obligatory. : razlebol
      • http://ps3.psu.com/Unreal-Tournament-3-has-35GB-optional-install--a0001892-p0.php : Fred Garvin
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        Ninja Gaiden black has an optional one : Judecca
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          Weird. I have Ninja Gaiden "Sigma" and I don't remember it being an option. I did install the game though... : razlebol
          • it's definitely optional, i remember being given the choice of whether i wanted to install it to HDD or n... : qwpeoriu
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            Err Sigma. You have to actually go into the options menu I think to install it. By default it doesn't e... : Judecca
            • I remember installing it. I just don't remember if I had the option not too. : razlebol
        • i believe heavenly sword does also, don't hold me to that though : qwpeoriu
      • Ninja Gaiden Sigma gives you the option to install the game onto your HDD. I think games need to go this ... : zigaroo
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      I still don't see the need for the install. The load times on the 360 version are nearly transparent : melkore
      • because Blu-Ray is slow, DVD9 is fast. Install is the only way for them to have comparible load times. : malloc
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        12X DVD = 16200KB/sec 2X BD-ROM = 9000KB/sec It's clear that the difference in speed would make a pre... : Yanks
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          oh god the horror. remember when CD drives had been standard for a few years but your old PC was still sp... : Degenerate
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            I remember installing Diablo II on my 12x drive while a friend installed it on his 40x pioneer True-X dri... : Prozium
            • you mean Kenwood True X? I had a 72x Kenwood that was and still is the fastest drive I have ever owned. T... : Tommy Toolbag
        • better hope diddlyd doesn't see this post, he'll get up mathemajatical up in your face : derelict515
• I bet when FFXIII is released it'll require a 40Gig install. The collector's edition ships with a HD wit... : egg5hen
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  GT5 has an install too, fellas :( : snagger
  • which is just fine, not the PS3 install drama you're looking for, move along : Downforce

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  did you buy it from a dealership? : MisterPhoton
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    Yea, it was a new car. It's just a hassle, you know? I'm wondering if this is because the way I drive,... : aggressor
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      If you've only had it for 3 months and its brand new you shouldn't be revving it over 3.5k iirc. : not work safe
      • I was told after 1k miles it was alright. I have 5.5k at the moment. : aggressor
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        not necessarily true, everyone has different ideas on how to break in an engine, and driving it hard from... : papaskot
        • italian tuneups ftw! : xsoulbrothax
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      did you drive the car that hard during it's mileage break-in period? What did your owners manual say abou... : PlanetPerfecto
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        Under 1k, I kept it under 3.5k RPMs except for one time when I let it redline, and that was at around 900... : aggressor
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          And that's what the sales dude told me. I never looked at the manual itself. : aggressor
          • anyways its probably just a loose clamp on the hose. : not work safe
• No big deal... I assume its under warranty. : Stroyent
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  that sucks. i've had my 3 for over 2 years now and no big problems.. not counting the fact i need new tir... : manero
  • Well, you were trying to get away from the cops. These things happen. : Totenjaeger
• Overflow maybe? : punchdog
• Maybe it was just peeing... : Jeepy McJeeperton
• PS it's fucking cold here in Wisconsin. It's been 0 degrees or so the last couple of days, and I've done ... : aggressor
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  Oh, one other thing that may be related. The heater blows out cold air unless the engine is revved. Wo... : aggressor
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    heater core? : FormerHPB
    • A watnow? : aggressor
    • doesn't the fact that hot air comes out at all means that his heater core is working? Sounds like only w... : DinK
  • stuck thermostat? : ant_hillbilly
  • could either of the above things or your water pump could be bad (and leaking). : cltcprd
  • You may just need to add coolant. If you have a large pocket of air in your cooling system then the cool... : DinK
  • The coolant system runs through the heater core to warm everything up. I'd assume you have no coolant lef... : shotgun1
  • Obviously it had too much coolant then and that's why it had to get rid of some, duh! : SirX
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  You didn't get any type of warranty agreement from the dealership? Those are must have's almost..... : kainen1
  • He said it was a new car, so it would have a factory warranty. : DinK
  • There's the manufacturer warranty, of course. It's just shitty that something already broke :( : aggressor
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  * F O R D E N G I N E ' D * : DinK
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    The V6 has a Ford engine. The 4 cylinder is a Mazda. (Also, why is it V6 but not V4? Or 4 cylinder but... : aggressor
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      Because the 4 cylinder is most likely an I-4 not a V-4. : cltcprd
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        I don't get it :( : aggressor
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          He means "inline 4" meaning the configuration is straight and the cylinders are not in a "V" configuratio... : PlanetPerfecto
          • You are correct. : ryuuseki
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          In a V engine, the cylinders are in two banks that meet in a v-shape. In an inline engine, all the cylin... : afty
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            Well now I know! : aggressor
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              and knowledge is power! : infallible
              • And power is energy over time! : Arcanum
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            Then we got the lovely W-12, I think you can all figure out how those cylinders are configured. (There... : SilverSnake
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              w12 is basically two v6's glued together (quite literally, minus the glue.) you forgot rotary wtf. :) : shotgun1
              • Shit. Have I invoked the wrath of cpt_gloval now? : SilverSnake
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              I want to see a nested cylinder engine. I dub it, the 'Matrushka Block'. : DrZettl
              • hahaahaha, awesome : yAak
            • Let's not even get started on Wankel's : ryuuseki
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              A boxter is a kind of car, not engine. =) : DinK
              • That poorsche discussion threw me off. ;) : SilverSnake
              • I'm guessing he means flat-6. : TrptJim
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                boxster :( though tbh, porsche themselves spelled it wrong in one of the service manuals a couple times h... : xsoulbrothax
                • d'oh, yeah I just copied how he wrote it. But the 'x' kinda takes care of the 's' sound anyway. : DinK
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            You forgot the "boxer" horizontally opposed engines in 4 and 6 cylinder : retardhumper
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              Which also happen to be the best kind. as long as you're asking a Subaru or Porsche owner : DinK
              • I'm gonna have to go with the inline 6 on this one... : zerog83
            • yup... love my H-4 Turbo! :D : Shadowdane
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    This is why I stayed away from the 6 and bought a 3. : CapnChaos
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      See my other post. Coulda just got a 6i with a Mazda engine (not like this helped me, though) : aggressor
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        Yeah but aren't the 6's assembled in Mexico or something? I like to think my 3 was made in Japan by giant... : CapnChaos
        • US 6's are made in Flint Rock, MI. All 3's are made in Hofu, Japan : aggressor
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    How do you sleep at night being this funny? : Stroyent
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      How do you manage to safely handle such sharp wit? : DinK
      • He's just sad because the Ford Excursion sitting out in his driveway guzzles shit gas. : ateam311