Xbox With NVidia

Happy fat tuesday, everyone...

Lex, the x box will be out this year, probably fall... why would they announce it a year and 3/4 ahead of a release?

#39

I also wanted to ask why you think xbox will be expensive? Were talking about something that will come out xmas 2001. My guess is the chip will be based off Nvidias upcoming NV20 this fall. That leaves a year for the price to fall and we all know how much vid card prices fall in 1year these days. How much will a 600mhz cpu be in 1.5 years? Cheap cheap cheap. If it is standard SDRAM, man imagine the prices of 64mb in that time as well. I see no indication that it will be expensive.

Thanks!

-Lex

#39

It\'s not just about warez. Did you know that only 50% of american households own a computer? That\'s pretty amazing since America is by far the most computer user oriented country. Doesn\'t sound right but that is the statistic. Virtually every household has or did have a playstation/n64 at one time. If MS can penetrate the other market & enable joe blow hick to play SoF on his TV then they will be a sucess. I hope MS understands the console market is truely different then the PC market. We\'ll have to see in 1.5 years when it\'s actually out if they do.

Thanks!

-Lex

#25, did you forget all about warez? about 95% of warez is for computer. Thats were all the unlisted game \'sales\' are. PC is dominant. Also, xbox is gonna be expensive, and pc owners are the only ones who have that amount of cash (thats why we have computers, and why consolers dont have computers)

Everyone is Intel\'s bitch: http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000307/bae.html

\"Short sellers file class action led by Intel & Associates\" :)

#24, Jack, thanks for the update. I was about to point out that Reuters CORRECTED their previous release. :) In any case, it was a combination of the two (xbox+s&p)

Here\'s another perspective on this issue:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1565893.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.1003-200-1565893

of interest:
From a hardware perspective, analysts are in nearly universal agreement: There won\'t be much difference. The X-box will largely look and function like a PC.

Instead, Microsoft likely will develop a new operating system, but this presents another dilemma. On one hand, Microsoft ideally wants the X-box to provide a different experience. On the other hand, it wants it to be compatible with PC software.

In the end, this will probably result in an OS that looks different, but doesn\'t radically rewire underlying functionality, said Peter Glaskowsky, an analyst with MicroDesign Resources. How attractive an experience this will present, especially compared against the realism Sony has achieved with the PlayStation 2, remains to be seen.

If anything, don\'t expect Microsoft to push Windows CE, he added. The company tried to promote Windows CE as an OS on Sega\'s Dreamcast, but the effort floundered, Glaskowsky, among others, noted.

Prudential\'s Mosesmann also predicted that Microsoft would come up with a hybrid OS. \"Windows CE is too weak and Windows 98 is overkill,\" he said.

Another challenge facing the X-box lies in encouraging computer makers to build them. Game consoles and Internet devices generally sell for less than the cost to produce them. Manufacturers make up the difference by selling software and/or services.

#34 that day trading shit is madness... don\'t your blood vessels constrict to half their size?

As an addendum to that ATI stuff, judging from the PR (check voodoo extreme) there are no chips yet, just whitepapers and design docs.

Call me when you can demonstrate a board (and it had better be faster/competitive than the competition).

Now, if it were to be an XXXBox... that\'s a different story. :)

I don\'t know what market MS is going with it\'s x box... It has no experience making consoles in the console market. People who buy consoles are wanting things that work right off the bat. They don\'t want to swap components or load this or that driver. Look at MS\'s entry in the CE market. It has barely made a dent in Palm, and people are regretting the day they bought CE\'s early hype machine...
Whatever they release, it\'ll just be supplanted by PC\'s in a few month\'s, or a new Dolphin or whatnot... Now, if MS spun off the x-box in an IPO and it\'s own separate entity then something might happen... And if they removed any MS OS they might have...

I dont know whats wrong with ATI, every time they release a new card, its just half-assed...no matter how good it is in X it just totally sucks with Y so much that X isnt worth it.

#25

The console market is much larger than the pc game market, absolutely. But a SIGNIFICANT chunk of that is due to the number of unique console GAMES (Obviously. Price being the other factor). If the (vast) majority of a consoles game content is available for both the console and PC, and looks/plays the same on both platforms, thats a significant blow to the console. Right now the number of titles that are cross pc/console are a significant minority. I doubt that will be the case with the x-box.

#24: Then I guess Reuters is wrong too: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000307/tc/nvidia_stock_1.html

I\'ll never write off ATI. They certainly have the resources to put out a killer 3d chip. And their market penetration is unquestionable. They have a (well deserved) reputation as only putting out boards that oems love, but one killer 3d chip is all it would take to change that. I can remember Back In The Day™ when ATI owned the gamers market with their Mach64 based cards.

My (imaginary =() moneys still on nvidia though.

So, it\'s a PC in a box that plugs into your tv?!?

in regards to that update jack did...do you think the xbox might use iomega zip drive as a storage device for all those saved games.....I really need a good lift on that stock. hehe....stock ticker IOM

Being a former NVDA holder @ 18 for a measly one bagger I\'m jealous. :)

#12: I meant we might hear about Ramapage on the 11th, since they say two days after March 9th.

ATI to unveil next-gen graphics processor details at GDC - 14:07 Posted by Alecs
ATI will unveil details of its two new 3D graphics technologies at GDC. The company claims these new technologies - Charisma Engine and Pixel Tapestry - to deliver 10x increase in 3D graphics and to provide realistic 3D images. Here is a quote from the press-release:

The Charisma Engine is the world\'s fastest geometry processing unit and is also the first to incorporate advanced game character acceleration for 3D skinning and key-frame character animation. These effects are critical for enabling game characters to reveal life-like facial expressions and to achieve fluid movement and motion.
The Pixel Tapestry Architecture features the world\'s first GigaTexel rendering engine, and includes support for deep multitexturing and new 3D effects with eye-popping photorealistic impact. It easily deals with complex elements such as metals, liquids and wood and their complex interaction with lighting and shadows.

Oh yeah this came from here:
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/news.shtml#952120328

Somebody else posted it but nobody seemed to care.

#10 Fuck you we know about jeffk you newbile llama poo * E V I L * Monkeytwat

3dfx to unveil Rampage details on March, 9 - 10:34 Posted by Alecs
3dfx has chosen the Game Developers Conference (GDC) 2000 (March 8-12) for VSA-100 graphics processor debut in USA. Besides, two days later they are going to give an opportunity for developers to have the first look at specifications of the next-generation processor, codename \"Rampage\", under NDA at company\'s special event - Immersion 2000, \"The New Generation\". So, we should wait for March, 9 to see the specs on the Web (despite of NDA :))) )


Rampage on March 9th... this will make or break 3dfx

#7 I bought NVidia at 17:
NVDA NVIDIA CORPORATION 240 C 79 18,960

Yes that\'s 19 grand in the bank you pretty fucking stock you!

#5

My thoughts exactly. I dont like the prognosis for X-box. If the box is being driven by direct X, then developers are basically just going to push straight ports across = no differentiation from a PC. Sure the price is nice, but if the content is the same, then PC owners will have no reason to buy one. Thats a sizeable chunk of the potential market.

Being a stock holder of nvidia at 22, the more failed Xbox\'s the better!

Someone explain it to me please... WTF would I wanna buy xbox when it\'s just a cheap fucking pc??? If I buy any console it\'ll be PS2 since it will have original games which you can\'t play on a PC. xbox will have PC only games and it\'ll suck next to my desktop PC. Microsoft\'s logic (or lack of it) never amazes me anymore. This thing will be a total failure. just watch... nVidia will be fucked in the deal as well since they\'ll have to sell their chips below the price so that the box doesn\'t cost too much.

Hope Nvidia doesn\'t get fucked by MS when this X box toy is a failure...