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• You could say its a good sexpanion pack. : Trips
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  yeah, the part where the clones swoop down into the arena gave me chills!! so awesome! : g0nk
  • More like the scene with Anakin having a wet dream. : Omaha
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    Spoiler alert: Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader!!! : dirge23
    • oh FUCK why did I click : Omaha
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  My game of the year, Valve are crafting gameplay experiences that other developers can't even begin to co... : Chepito.
  • I was about to post this exact same thing. Which is hard, because it's not really anything new or grou : action roommate
  • Mine too. Bioshock is a very close 2nd, but nothing competes with Valve at this point. Also, the Sourc... : Sexpansion Pack
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    What exactly is so much better compared to other games? The only thing that stood out for me were the pr... : dilutedq
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      The pacing was perfect. : helvetica
      • A lot of aspects of the pacing is dynamic, I think that's why it's so good. The amount of ammo and health... : marmite
      • Wow Uhm I'm going to have to disagree and I will explain why. I don't quite remember EP1, but EP2 had l... : dilutedq
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  It's comforting that the words "good" and "episode 2" don't automatically mean star wars to some folks! : dante2010
  • Haha, I read g0nk's post and was super confused for like a minute. : Chris Remo
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  I wonder what Valve will do after Episode 3. I'd love to see their take on an RPG in the style of Oblivi... : Horn
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    They'll do HL3. : dirge23
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      I was under the impression that Ep1,2, and 3 is essentially HL3. : skankcore
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        So, what, they're going to conclude the HL storyline in Ep3? : dirge23
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          I have no idea, but I've read many times that these three episodes is basically what would have been HL3 ... : skankcore
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            Well, they'll certainly keep going with Portal, and they can explore new IP with multiplayer components t... : dirge23
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              I think that anything they do would turn into automatic moneyhats. Maybe not as much as the HL franchise,... : skankcore
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                I guess I just assume that as long as there's more HL story to tell, they'll continue to tell it. : dirge23
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                  For sure, but they don't have to do it right away. They could wait, oh, say 5-10 years? :) : skankcore
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                    They aren't 3DRealms. : dirge23
                    • Tell that to the HL2 and TF2 development time. : skankcore
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    Why only 3 episodes? This is something I'll never understand about the movie industry, why always trilogi... : melt_core
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      Beginning -> Middle -> End. Not that it can't be done differently, but it's a very natural rhythm. : geedeck
      • 1. Good guys have initial success. 2. Bad guys counterattack. 3. Good attains a lasting victory. Sta... : dirge23
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        Beginning > Middle > More middle > Even more middle > End : gmd
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          End < Beginning > Middle > Prequel < Conclusion : johnsto
          • Only if it's directed and produced by "Mr Piss on the Bartender Joke" himself. : dedgecko
      • The standard European essay format is Beginning -> Middle 1 (hypethesis) -> Middle 2 (antithesis) -> End. : melt_core
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      I seem to remember reading that they only committed to 3 episodes as a way to test the water. : johnsto
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        I understand that but how long can they keep working on the same game before they get burned out and the ... : Horn
        • It's so story driven, unlike most games, that I doubt there's that kind of risk here. : melt_core
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    HL2:Ep3 is Gordon Freeman's last outing, Valve has stated this, I'm pretty sure. : Omaha
    • (Note that that doesn't necessarily mean Half-Life as a series will end.) : Omaha
    • I'm gonna need to see a source to believe this. : dirge23
• I loved it, but felt like I was just re-treading some of the same things with different set dressing. ... : Beady
• they should totally put that on the box : scottythejock
• I wasn't crazy about Ep1, but 2 was easily as good as HL2 if not better. : Rauol Duke
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  Orange Box hijack: I want to get Orange Box for my 15yo nephew, but I don't think he's ever played HL1. I... : Deathlove
  • The 360 version has no recap other than the mentions in the game itself. : Rauol Duke
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    There is nothing about HL1. There is a recap video in HL2:Ep 2, showing HL2 and Ep1, but he'll be playing... : skankcore
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      Oh, he's got no problem reading, it's just a little awkward to say "HEY HERE'S THIS GREAT GAME but read t... : Deathlove
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        Yeah, I know what you mean. There are subtle references throughout HL2 and the episodes as to what happen... : skankcore
        • He's not a real gamer; I'd be getting it for 360! please note that i have a 360 : Deathlove
  • HL1 is like $10 on Steam. : NFXFSX
  • HL1 is rated M for Mature, 17+ :) : EvilDolemite
  • he doesn't really need to play HL1 to enjoy it though, if he likes it enough, he'll go back and read the ... : bakanoodle
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  whats the cheapest vid card i can get to run the orange box? i bought it on release and haven't played i... : aurealis
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    I ran it on a radeon 9250, but I'd recommend at least a 9600. :P : guido anchovy
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      The Radeon 9x00 series is the best legacy (I can't believe I'm calling it that) card for Source engine ga... : skankcore
      • i'm really just lookin for cheapest. i want to get in on some TF2, see what portal is all about and i re... : aurealis
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    Pretty much any will do. It also depends on how much ram you got. : melt_core
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      if any card would do i wouldn't be in this situation MELT_CORE : aurealis
      • p.s. 1 gig ram : aurealis
      • pretty much ANY THAT SUPPORT DX9. That was implied. : melt_core
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  I regret spending the extra 20$ for Portal and Episode 2 when all I do is play TF2 :\ : Modica Sol Solis
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    peggle was worth the cost for me! : Iwannaacura
    • i have eyt to play HL2 or EP1 / 2 (im mid-way through HL2) but playing with TF2 and p0rtal has been worth : Demius
• duh : filtersweep
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  Orange Box is GOTY and probably the best value ever : EvilDolemite
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    A deal can't be GOTY. It's either Portal, TF2 or EP2. Otherwise why not claim other collections and deals... : avatar_58
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      Because none of them have been as good as this? Really, how often do 3 new releases come in a bundle? : treefingers1
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        Sorry but giving a package deal an award is the same as me saying "God Toys R Us' Wii bundle is GOTY! Bet... : avatar_58
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          bad comparision.... you can't purchase them individual at retail - but you make reference to TRU bundled ... : zagzig32
          • Sorry? Why does it matter what occurs at retail? Are you insinutating that giving HL2 GOTY automatically ... : avatar_58
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            i bought TF2 by itself : electroly
            • not Retail, as my point was stated. : zagzig32
    • Agreed. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • its in one box.... : zagzig32
    • the fact that they're giving you multiple games in one standard retail unit of such quality that it seems... : 60days
  • I'm just curious as to how Valve will top The Box. They pretty much set up themselves the bomb. :[ : My Documents
  • BUT I HAVE TO BUY HALF LIFE 2 AGAIN WAAHHH : tomservo
  • The only reason it was a decent value to begin with is because it included HL2, and EP1. EP2, Portal, an... : dilutedq
• Yeajh, but episode 3 is better... dude darth vader : flagg209
• Finished yesterday - best HL tradition, awesome storytelling, good characters. Valve at its best. OMG : MatzL.E.

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• It looks good, no indication for layout though. I liked cp_wolf last night :( : thekidd
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  Finally some maps with effort put into them. No idea if it flows well though. more CTF :) : Slowtreme
  • yes more CTF please, as nature intended : Lightzout
• I just did a quick run-through. There is no doubt that it looks fantastic from a graphical standpoint. ... : Chepito.
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  Downloading now, I'll have it setup on the server by this afternoon for play testing. : RyDogg1
  • :D Sweet. : Chepito.
  • I love you man. Thanks! : ConfusedUs
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    It's up on Rydogg's server. Going to switch to that map right now and test it. If anyone else wanna jump ... : razlebol
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      Nevermind.. It shows in the map list but it's not available yet. : razlebol
      • I'm down for some preemptive testing. : skankcore
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        It's up now.. Probably wans't finished uploading. Warning though, it's a very large map. 20 megs : razlebol
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          just tried joining and the auto-download didn't work. : ant_hillbilly
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            That's because I haven't finished the 2nd part of the staging, ie putting the bzip2 map on my webspace fo... : RyDogg1
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              For now, people can download it on my shackspace. http://razlebol.shackspace.com/TF2/MAPS/ctf_quarry.zip : razlebol
              • It's cool, I'm uploading it now to it. Fast downloads should be good in a few minutes. : RyDogg1
  • I LOVE YOU : virus
• I'd be up for trying this out tonight if anyone from this side of the planet would like to (and if ZeroSi... : marmite
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  Can we please stop with the custom maps? Nobody likes them, a good number of people leave whenever they c... : xjdrake32
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    There are three other servers. Enjoy. : RyDogg1
    • well thats usually what happens, people leave to play on another server when a custom map comes up. I mea... : xjdrake32
    • Toy fort is one of the better CP maps I've played. Lots of great fire fights on that map. Give it a sho... : mrwolf710
  • This one looks very well done though. I can't wait to try it out. : lodgiikal
  • why can't we test them out for a little while for a little variety? yeah they might not be as great as th... : laurgasms
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    Are the custom maps set to autodownload? I've forgotten if they are or not. : helvetica
    • They have been for me : action roommate
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      Yes. I've setup fast downloads (thanks to the many shackers who sent me links) with the bzip2 compressio... : RyDogg1
      • I just got booted. : romulan
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    how else will we find a map thats everyone likes unless we keep testing them out? : Trips
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      let the internet do it? : Enigme
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        We are the internet. : thekidd
        • I AM THE INTERNET : SockMonkeh
  • i like castle. didn't like turbine so much but castle is great : sikander
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    Speak for yourself. I like the variety. : Zakko
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      meh. I don't get it. On the server whenever a custom map comes up people aren't happy but when someone ma... : xjdrake32
      • Well, we have a number of Shack servers. And as far as I can tell, only one runs any customs. And for m... : Zakko
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      Same here. I mean I remember the days of nothing but custom map servers, maybe gamers are just all ADD'd... : RyDogg1
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        Well in the old days we didn't have any variety except for the standard DM matches that got old quick. ... : MrLobo
        • The games you mentioned above would not have been core gameplay today without the mods, maps, and addons ... : RyDogg1
    • Me too. : dmason
  • Turbine and Castle are really great. If anything a 24/7 Turbine server would be aces in my book. : ieGod
  • agreed : feek
  • I would guess that 80% of the people that "hate" these maps just don't know them yet. : zebosausamite
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    Custom maps are pretty much the only thing breaking the monotony right now. Dust and dust2 are both custo... : eldiablo01
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      what : johnsto
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        seriously - what. dust and dust2 aren't custom maps. : johnsto
        • what would YOU know about it? : thekidd
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          Hey man get in there and get that Splash Damage v. The Shack ETQW battle going. : RyDogg1
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            timezones are more problematic than anticipated, unfortunately. but it's being kept in mind. : johnsto
            • I forgot you guys are on the isle. For you guys to play prime time around 10 pm gmt UK that would be wha... : RyDogg1
      • I think you just broke his mind, eldiablo01 : Postal
    • 0_o : dmason
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    Good custom maps = good. Bad custom maps = bad. : stratedge
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      When do the good ones show up? : D45hiz
      • Months from now after these have been play tested to death just like the valve maps. : rosewood
  • most of the custom maps so far are rushed POS. as time goes on there will be more custom maps worth play... : smax
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    People like complaining. They don't even want to take the effort to see if they like it or not. You reall... : razlebol
    • looks are just a foot in the door. : johnsto
  • At what point, though, are custom maps good enough to use? What if they have the same good gameplay and ... : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • I liked Turbine, and am definitely gonna give this one a try. Really the only custom we've rotated in th... : Xevo
  • I'm the opposite, I only play on servers with custom maps. Kind of tired of the official ones already. : Porkasaurus
• Looks nice, but a little too squashed I'd say (based on the screenies). : johnsto
• This is the first one that, at least in screenshots, does not seem to suffer from gigantism. : ConfusedUs
• Played through it a few times and agree with johnso, it's kind of squashed. The interiors seem a little s... : Ziggurat
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  Castle is terrible. Offense can easily get to the defense spawn and block it? Yeah thats a great idea! : D45hiz
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    That's not the reason it is bad, it's bad because you are forced to do this to make an effective assault. : alias
    • It also gets easier and easier instead of harder and harder for the offense, which is stupid. : SockMonkeh
  • Castle and Turbine are both crappy. I understand the desire to play new maps. I want to play new maps as ... : SockMonkeh
• argh..it's ctf. :( : deathofrats
• This looks promising! : romulan
• Yeah, I was going to propose that one. I found it yesterday and it seems very good. : razlebol
• hey that looks really cool ... lets at least try it out please : virus
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  MIRROR'D HERE FOR j00 GUYS: http://virus.shackspace.com/ctf_quarry.zip : virus
  • Thanks : dmason
• Without a top-down view of the level it is IMPOSSIBLE to say if a custom map is good from the screenshots... : byorn
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  Impressions on CTF_Quarry Overall, I think this map has potential to be one of the favorite. It's defi... : razlebol
  • There is a little bit for all the classes* : razlebol
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    Holy cow! Great write-up / screenshots here, folks! : dmason
    • Indeed. After running around I can agree to all razlebol has said. It'll be very interesting to play this... : skankcore
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    Nice writeup going to check out the level locally right now. : bcyde
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      Changed the level to ctf_quarry again on Dallas server if you guys want to test it out together. : razlebol
      • Jumping on now. : bcyde
      • Hahahah I jumped onto a cart and got carried, but then slammed into a wall and got stuck. More people pl... : bcyde
  • Nice fast impressive write up! The mine passage has an area to duck into in the middle with health and a... : romulan
  • nice writeup - thanks ... can't wait to play later. : virus
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    See this is the kind of quality support I expect from my junior admin staff. I'm glad I made this execut : RyDogg1
    • He's AFK! I swear! : zebosausamite
    • lol you talk like you're in upper management. confirm/deny? : boomstickah
    • YES SIR! : razlebol
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    I just checked it out for 15 minutes or so. It looks beautiful, but I'm nearly certain it will end up as ... : edgewise
    • Also, venguard pointed out that a demo or soldier can spam the top spawn from the top ledge by doing a ro... : bcyde
  • nice, the view of the intelligence is pretty cool. : bakanoodle
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  Where do you put custom maps again? I see a tf2 maps dir but it's empty. : c0bra
  • \Steam\steamapps\*username or email*\team fortress 2\tf\maps : razlebol
  • I just connect to a server running it and let it autodownload : RikiTiki2
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  The Medic Gun Trick Don't mind the typo in the title. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pSEnYCZkm4 : Chepito.
  • nice! this will probably get removed very fast though : razlebol
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    cant view YT at work = whats the dealio? : hirez
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      The medic's needlegun can propel teammates. In the video, a medic fires needles straight up, and an engy ... : Chepito.
      • It's not anywhere close to straight up. He just shoots needles around the area of the Engie's jump apex. : Odoyle
      • Am I too tired, or is that not a teammate? Does it work on your own team or does it just go right through... : devi| dog
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      If a medic shoots his needle gun from underneath another player at him, he shoots up into the sky. : Waffles!
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        yea, and blu was using that against us thursday : rosewood
        • You mean tuesday. And we hardly put it to good use :) I detonated my exit :( : thief
  • Ahh... that's what was going on. : ChibiJosh
  • I'm on YouTube!!! I feel so Gen Y! : edgewise
  • that's a lot more propulsion than I expected : RikiTiki2
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    Shit trips, we done been found out! : thief
    • Quick, behind the sign! : bcyde
  • that looks like fun : Lightzout
  • yeah I saw this going on in a pub last week. Unsappable sentry FTW : Old_Fart
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  Quickly tried the map at work during lunch today. Seems a bit too big for CTF. I think it would have ... : MrLobo
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    I don't find it too big. You can probably go from one intel to the other one in 40-45 seconds if you take... : razlebol
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      I meant big in the sense that the chokepoints are large and have multiple paths in and out of them. Wh... : MrLobo
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        yeah, CP maps are by far the most fun. : edgewise
        • I'll take 2fort over cp_well or cp_granary any day. I love Gravel Pit and Dustbowl though. Some of th... : Old_Fart
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  is it possible to buy JUST TF2? : mega man
  • Yeah, absolutely! Orange Box is just a much better deal if you're going to play most/all of the games. : Xevo
  • yes : pukerat
• Yeah as it turns out, it's rather good. The various paths from base to base make it a very scaleable map... : Xevo
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  My impressions. They need to slow down the carts a bit, maybe to the speed of scouts. Also some of the ha... : ant_hillbilly
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    there's an odd blind spot in the intel room as far as sentries go. I had one placed in there and tremetal... : edgewise
    • yeah, carts need to be slower or at least less frequent. : razlebol
• looks fun, hopefully it comes up tonight. : lowpoly
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  Author posted a couple pictures of some changes: flag room changed a bit: http://i50.photobucket.com/a... : Ziggurat
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    I like these changes. : ant_hillbilly
    • me too. Was the new version released? : razlebol
  • heres a few more changes also. Looks a lot better, hopefully he will release it soon. Opened things up a... : ant_hillbilly
• see now that is the first custom TF2 map I have seen that actually looks like it should be a TF2 map : mikecyb
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  I think there are too many confined areas and narrow corridors. : vynn
  • That is fixed already in the new version http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15781415#itemanchor_157814... : razlebol
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  castle fucking sucks >:( : TastyWheat
  • Wolf is just as bad if not worse. It needs to be gotten rid of ASAP. : K1Bond007
• Hey guys! I'm PogoP, creator of ctf_quarry. I appreciate all the comments. Just to let you know, ver... : pogop

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  I'm in.. beware, we did this with CS:S a long time ago, it's not easy to do :P : lakren
  • oh yeah. I figure that there would be some logistics involved. If we could field 6 teams and a few 'fill-... : hirez
• I said I would be there Tuesday, but I was sidetracked. Today I mean it! And yeah, some mini-matches w... : skankcore
• I could be down for this, I'd have to go Medic or Engy since they're my best classes. : Xevo
• Too busy with work. :( Someone else will have to bring up the bottom of the scoreboard until next week... : ChibiJosh
• mid day bumpage. : hirez
• im in : renoforrent
• odds are I won't make it in time :( : lowpoly
• will try and play tonight if the server isn't full. : xylothan
• You know I will be there. : nyranger66
• Unless I get really f'd up at the dentist today I'll try and be there. : bcyde
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  I could do a mini tournament if there is a set schedule of when the games are. (I can find broadband); A... : thief
  • Though seriously, if shackW people want my spot I can give it to em. I know it says 'open' but wha'ever... : thief
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    you are welcome. yes, if we did the miniT, then it would be set schedule. : hirez
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      Any ideas on how one would form teams? Random? Moderated? seriously. : thief
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        I was thinking either random or captains & do a draft. thoughts? : hirez
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          Captains sounds the most fun and most balanced--people can choose who they perceive as good on various me... : thief
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            concurred - actually this whole idea was spawned by the use of Captains during practice. I have an idea ... : hirez
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              I LOVE the idea of having like 6 or 8 captains, and then having a draft from a pool of 100 or so players ... : Jackass1233
              • hahahahhaha : thief
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                Wait why are the gays protesting? Because the straight side took their #1 man? : NastyJack
                • yeah :) : Jackass1233
          • works for me, I'd love to have a set team to play with. we could do similar to what Hirez did when ShackW... : lowpoly
• I WILL BE THERE! : m0rfus
• nah - i like just jumping in and having fun. i dont want to take it seriously. : virus
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  I'm down, but we'd have to get some solid teams lined up. : dkrulz
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    It would be interesting with the best players vs the shackw or whatever. : D45hiz
    • Haven't tried out the Chicago or East Coast server yet, if the latency is better on those than Dallas it ... : dkrulz
• I'm down, and I'd love to play in some mini-tourneys! : famine101
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  I'll be there. How early should we show up to secure a spot? It was already filled to capacity on Tuesday... : Bold
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    I checked the server around 20 minutes before start time and it was almost half full so I decided to jump... : bcyde
    • it was totally full 10 mins prior to the start and I even left auto-join on for 5 minutes before I gave u... : mikecyb
• I'll be there for sure tonight and I'll probably end up staying up way later than I should dammit. : NastyJack
• I'll try to be there but it'll probably be full again :( : mikecyb
• when are CoD4 shackbattles going to happen? : FuzzyOnion
• Aloha. : brickmatt
• please let me in : mXENO
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  Who are the captains for tonight? : nyranger66
  • i would like to know this as well. : m0rfus
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    I hope it's Maddog vs. JPB as you suggested, because that would be awesome. : midgetherder
    • fuck that. they need to co-announce some TF2 games. : mindmann
• I am interested in everything. : dmason
• I want to play! Tourney sounds fragtastic. : Lightzout
• how would teams be picked? captains + live irc draft? : pyide
• I will be there! I play as "itsJeff" (not much different) : itsjeff9
• I'M GOING TO BE THERE NOBODY TAKE MY SPOT : electroly
• If I'm allowed back (Tuesday's multiple defeats were demoralizing) then I'd love to play : sergeon
• So if I want to play, and I actually get in the server this time, do I need to have IRC too so you guys c... : noobja
• I'll throw my name into the hat. That is if you let my kind in... : monkeygone
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  sorry, as an eastern-time-zoner i don't associate with those from the west coast. (seriously, this shit s... : DrFlammable
  • come play on shack east at 8pm : ant_hillbilly
• Would love to play. : silentw
• something to get you in the mood: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJBZnSnVpE&feature=related : m0rfus
• I'll be there. Heavy Motherfucker, ftw! : coraldayton
• evening reminder bumpage. : hirez
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  I need 1 more captain for tonight! : hirez
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    you sound like wolfanoz working the docks : drucifer
    • LOLs. this might be one of my favorite drucifer posts. : hirez
    • Wanna walk my plank, baby? : Wolfanoz
  • i could captain. : lakren
  • Still? : NastyJack
  • i can captain:):):):) : Jackass1233
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    I'd captain but i'd just choose myself for every spot, a team of me would be unstoppable! I also won't b : boredguy
    • ok Bjork : drucifer
• Is it too late to join? : DHAvatar
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  jesus not even 9 and it's full already : xylothan
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    You pretty much need to be in by 8:30-8:45 lately or it's full. hirez done good! : midgetherder
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      While I'm happy for the increased popularity of these "practices", it's kinda' annoying for those of us w : Bold
      • imo since it's shackwest practice, shackwest members should get priority. next time he should change the ... : pyide
      • I feel you. Usually I'm just getting home by 9pm. And Thursdays I can't make it at all often. I think ... : midgetherder
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        Hirez said he'd boot non shackw players to allow shackwguys on before. Try tossing him a message (he'll ... : boredguy
        • I messaged him tonight and on Tuesday; I don't think he's booting non-ShackW players. : Bold
• Each time I try and join...full. Are we supposed to log in at 8:30pm PST? As a Left Coast person, I get t... : racer5
• I'd like an 8v8 tourney, though I'm not sure there would be a large enough player base to run more than a... : alias
• I think I could be down. : boomstickah
• GG's: This is very high quality, every time - I really hope a tourney materializes given the current feve... : sergeon
• good games guys :D : mikecyb

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  that's totally thief : Dravenport
  • no shit! : dedgecko
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  Hahahahahah. Funny shit. I think the engy needs a pyro buddy. : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • Also, LOL at sapping the baby. : Robotic Puppy Eater
• need to whack the baby twice with the wrench : TroZ
• HAhahaha. That was great. :D : DOOManiac
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  that is pretty lol. : thekidd
  • http://www.mine-dog.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2981 : thekidd
• thats some good stuff, and I dont even play TF2 : hobosapien
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  spies pretty much ruin TF2. When they sap a sentry they should uncloak. : oatmela
  • wait have you played this game at all? : boomstickah
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    you have to uncloak to do anything... : zagzig32
    • not to walk.... : mindmann
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      you can sap without uncloaking, and that is bullshit. : oatmela
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        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15195192#itemanchor_15195192 : oatmela
        • you're wrong though :P : mikecyb
  • Not on the shack servers they don't. : NastyJack
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    Spies cannot sap while cloaked.. at least not on the shack servers. : adodric
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      I've seen Sweet Lew sapped while cloaked many times. I wouldnt put it past him to exploit though. : Tommy Toolbag
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        I've never seen anyone sap while cloaked, ever. : NastyJack
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          Sounds like someone is just covering for his healing pet. Tighten the collar, NastyJack. Lew has been a b... : Tommy Toolbag
          • Jealous :) : NastyJack
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          Huh? I definitely remember sapping while cloaked. You just cant use your knife without uncloaking : feek
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            I tested it before posting just to make sure and it wasn't possible. Unless servers have a setting for th... : adodric
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              LET ME CLEAR THIS UP GUYS: I play as a spy all the time. You cannot sap while you are cloaked. The only t... : SockMonkeh
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                ^^^ End of thread. Im going to take the word of one of the Shack's best spies, if not the best, over an e... : Tommy Toolbag
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                  Oh, I am certainly not the Shack's best spy, though I admit I am no slouch. : SockMonkeh
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                    clearing it up for Sweet Lew was awesome though! : adodric
                    • name dropper : Tommy Toolbag
                    • Oh I see what's going on here now. : SockMonkeh
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                Some people say "cloak" when they mean "disguise"... I think that's the confusion. : Johnny Law
                • Yeah, I think that's it. You can sap while disguised. : crummynz
                • ^^ disguise != cloak : deject
      • hahaha if you saw me then I must have not been cloaked! :p : adodric
  • chill out guys he probably meant to drop their disguise. : eldiablo01
  • Cloak = invisible.... : ArtilleryMarker
  • The thing that gets me most about this is not that you don't know you're wrong, it's that you somehow hav... : Arsenal
• Hahaha that was amazing : lplasmatron
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  You cannot sap while invisible. You can sap while disguised. : ConfusedUs
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    BS! I have watched my sentry be sapped with nobody around many times. : oatmela
    • You either: a) have a laggy connection b) are blind c) suck at TF2 d) can't spell oatmeal ... : adodric
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      I have experienced being sapped by a spy on a level below me, its a bullshit exploit move that goes on ev... : sharpie
      • I thought they fixed that in a patch, or was it just soldiers and pyros killing through the floor? : adodric
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        Yeah. Ive seen exploiting on Dustbowl Stage 3, too, where a demo or soldier can get up high and shoot ove... : Tommy Toolbag
        • Such a good spot :o) : ArtilleryMarker
        • i perfer to shoot charges over building to where engineers have sentries >:) : AMikaboshi
    • I was standing on top of you. That's also how I stabbed you. : Moonbase Commander
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  That was hilarious, but the end was kind of a let-down. I was hoping for the gun to get sapped. : Pittst3r
  • me too : SockMonkeh
  • I was expecting that too, would have been a great ending : adodric
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  The sappers can be annoyingly strong just because they're infinite without reloads or anything, all while... : DinK
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    I agree. Sappers should be single-use and have to be refilled like engineer metal. You sap once, make i... : EvilDolemite
    • so what if you can spam? Sentry guns should not be the be all and end all solo defensive brick wall. They... : aeg1x
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      ... What are you thinking? It's not even hard to defend against a spy since they can't kill buildings... : alias
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        as always, you're insane. : deject
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          No way. Tried being a spy? It's not easy to actually place a sapper, let alone have it finish taking down... : crummynz
          • I could see them being single use if they couldn't be removed too, BUT they should take longer to place i... : Old_Fart
    • Saps should have a delay, at the very least, but also do more damage quickly. : thief
• awesome : moshman
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  Oh my, someone has some one issues....go pyro for fuck sake. : monkeygone
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      Appreciate it? As art or comedy? ok. Will Do. I love it. 4 stars, roll out the red carpet. Yes. I am very... : monkeygone
      • it's a comic. get over it. : moshman
• comedy gold : xelencin
• inspirational. I've printed these and hung them above my bed so that my spying abilities may return. : thief

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  Holy shit, RT gives I Am Legend 57% and Enchanted 94%? I need to believe you... : devi| dog
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    I loved Enchanted too, if that helps. : askedrelic
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      I thought it was great - and the lead actress is fucking HOT : thetangent
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        Seriously. Popping a boner during a Disney flick with little kids all around was a bit awkward. : askedrelic
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          Not really, there's probably some drawn in. : lightsam
          • How is that different from other Disney animated movies? Those poor animators have nothing better to do. : Totenjaeger
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  Has anyone who's read the book seen it and want to comment? : aeg1x
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    someone posted about it a few days ago, much much different than the book : fletch_
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      The director commented on how the book was too short to be a full length movie. : lightsam
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        it's not that it was too short, but it wouldn't translate well into a film. It's all internal monologue ... : empathe
        • yeah it'd be an alcoholic stammering around for most of an hour : fletch_
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          "To translate it to film, if you were to do it direct, it feels more like a short. Structurally, it doesn : lightsam
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            Don't get me wrong, I agree that you couldn't do a direct translation to the screen, but I don't think it... : empathe
            • Like Castaway? : lightsam
    • Twas me: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15767167#itemanchor_15767167 : mojo the helpr monke
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  i am so excited for IAL. i read the book to get psyched up about a month ago and it psyched me up TOO muc... : Psigun
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    his abs are awesome too : askedrelic
    • he's so dreamy : Psigun
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  Did you see IMAX to get that Batman trailer, or was it a regular screening? : PenicillinX57
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    oh yea IMAX screening. It was excellent quality. : askedrelic
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      :( I was hoping they'd show the trailer for non-IMAX people : PenicillinX57
      • Hopefully it pops online in the coming days/weeks. : NFXFSX
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  Less I Am Legend, more Dark Knight trailer review. : Hello Kitty
  • Seriously. : NFXFSX
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  More accurate description of TDK stuff plz. : SpaecKow
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    Okay massive spoilers!! Starts off with a bank robbery. 2 guys in zip line to the top of the bank. 3 guys : askedrelic
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      I can't decide whether to go on a trailer blackout (so the movie is a total surprise for me when I see it... : PenicillinX57
      • I really regret reading that now. :( But thanks anyway, AR. : SpaecKow
    • Gah, spoil it anyway. Stop being annoying =( : Hello Kitty
    • do you happen to remember the last line he says at the end of the clip? : choppp
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  7 minute trailer to batman makes me need to see this movie tomorrow. : dahanese
  • it was amazingly, you will love it! : askedrelic
  • they didn't show it when I saw the sneak preview :( : mojo the helpr monke
  • Haha, yeah. I have no real interest in this film outside of the IMAX Batman prologue. :( : sgtsanity
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  7 minute trailer? ours was only like a minute and a half : hobosapien
  • oh i see, i didnt see the imax version. : hobosapien
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  kjshfdkhalfhaljhsfd BATMAN TRAILER IS AWESOME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwT8GyLxIhk : sgtsanity
  • http://www.applegeeks.com/lite/index.php?aglitecomic=2007-11-28 : lightsam
  • wicked joker laughing \m/ : -=kodiak=-
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    fuck ledger might actually pull this off...... : shavenewok
    • I still love the hate for actors because of the roles that started their careers. I'm not above it myself... : Totenjaeger
  • Holy shit, that looks insane! : wild falcon
  • wtf this isnt about snow blowers at all :( : mega man
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    Joker looks good, Batman still looks stupid. Guess it doesn't matter since in Batman Begins, Batman was p... : baron calamity
    • *sigh* : Silent Wolf
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      At least he wasn't a gay icon. : Totenjaeger
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        Sure, The Dark Knight costume is totally not gay..... http://3francs6sous.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06... : baron calamity
        • I don't see a molded butt cover or nipple plates so no. : Totenjaeger
  • oooo, gonna own!! : jrock
  • link doesn't show now. apparently it's private now?? : jrock
• just got back from IAL, I enjoyed it. I saw it at an IMAX also and it was loud as shit. I don't think I... : contentious roy
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  I have to know....does the dog die? My wife is very concerned about this. : hanfeitzu
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    Yes, it dies. Try not to respond with a sad face or something so you don't spoil it for someone else. : contentious roy
    • lol : d fluke
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  i def want to see this movie. i've read the book but im not expecting anything even remotely like it. p... : arizona bay
  • So you are expecting some I, Robot kind of translation then? : Totenjaeger

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• thanks, I was looking forward to these updates : MikkleThePickle
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  thanks! : moshman
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    holy fuck DS. and lol PS3. : moshman
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      but to be fair, that is actually quite an increase for PS3. but still outsold by ps2... : moshman
      • The PS2 sells really well still, you wouldn't think there were that many people without one by now. : chazums
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      to be fair, the PS3 has outsold the 360 for the past few months in mainland Europe...allegedly. : johnsto
      • I don't really believe that tbh. Or everyone already has a 360 hehe : moshman
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  That Lifetime perspective graph is pretty interesting. I'm surprised that many PSP's have been sold. ... : DOOManiac
  • yeah, I have no doubt the Wii will overtake the 360. : moshman
  • The PSP gets a bit of a bad rap around here I think. It had a shitty start but it's a really solid system... : aeg1x
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  a forecast the Economist printed a week or two ago: http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id... : jcupitt
  • according to that chart something magical is gonna happen on Jan 1 where the PS3 instantly starts selling... : skunk_ape
  • I can see that happening. And with 360 and Wii at roughly the same price point, PS3 actually becomes ... : johnsto
  • Eh, I don't buy that. I suppose it might be possible world-wide but they would have to see an incredible... : chazums
  • Well 2008 is going to be when I buy one. MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, GT5, rumble returning. Hopefully a cheape... : aeg1x
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    look at this other "forecast" the same firm published in February 07: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin : MikkleThePickle
    • Haha damn they fucked that one up : nomaad
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    I do see the PS3 beating the 360 globally since the Japanese are still a decent sized gaming market and t... : boredguy
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      How large is Japan, console market wise? I would assume 30-40% globally, but does anyone have an actual ... : lightsam
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        I'd be surprised if it's that much. I'm sure that the Japanese buy more consoles on average than in most ... : rock elf
        • Japan might have a smaller population but console gaming is alot more popular there in the US. I mean ju... : lightsam
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        The last 4 weeks of sales in Japan come to 279k Wii, 164k PS3, 27k x360 (lol) : chazums
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          Wow, that's impressive, 27,000 360's sold in a week. Last numbers I saw had total 360 sales in Japan at ... : lightsam
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            27k in 4 weeks. Between 6k and 8k per week. : chazums
            • Still good! especially when the total is barely over 100k! lol]o : lightsam
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    it would be nice if they explained why. i can't see a couple games making that big of a difference, espec... : Mansmells
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      I think they are expecting that the recent ps3 price cut will get sales rolling : jcupitt
      • You can see from the figures that they've made an improvement but nothing particularly note worthy. : chazums
  • It seems like they basically pulled that graph out of their ass. I would like to see their reasons for t... : marmite
  • That will only happen if PS3 gets it's own killer app which hasn't happened yet. They have yet to releas... : mrwolf710
  • that consultancy firm is full of shit, check their predictions last year : moshman
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  Are there any reliable numbers released for sales in other regions? It would be interesting to see how e... : boredguy
  • Japan have numbers weekly but there are no figures that I know of for Europe. If you can find them I'll ... : chazums
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  Good lord DS is a bona fide fucking achievement as a platform. The Wii is an impressive success as a con... : Chris Remo
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    The scary thing is that's a 50% sales increase compared to Nov '06 so I guess the damand just isn't slowi... : chazums
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      That's part of what I mean about its strength as a platform rather than just as a general purchase. It d... : Chris Remo
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        I wonder how long it will take for the current generation to turn that corner, even the PS3 and DS starte... : chazums
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          I don't even know if any of them have the potential to. PS3 is too far in one direction, Wii too far in ... : Chris Remo
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            Based on DS success, I think the Wii has potential. : lightsam
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              How so? They seem to be succeeding on entirely different strengths. The Wii succeeds on the basis of be... : Chris Remo
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                DS wasn't sold out from the start? Overall they're seem very similar to me. Both went a different r... : lightsam
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                  DS was sold out on the start on hype, then lost tons of momentum and didn't at all move into its prime un... : Chris Remo
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                    Look at the top game sales for the DS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Nin... : lightsam
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                      What does "established franchises" have to do with it? Hardcore gamers buy established franchises way mo... : Chris Remo
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                        Yes, so how is the Wii not catering to the hardcore base by releasing sequels or spin offs from popular f... : lightsam
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                          You think simply covering genres or franchises is going to actually result in sales or further support am... : Chris Remo
                          • No, but I do believe the Wii has the most potential out of the three to be the PS2 of this generation. : lightsam
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              I'd seriously expect a Wii Lite style revision within a few years : chazums
              • I don't think we'll have to wait long for that. 18 months or fewer I'd say. : Chris Remo
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                Ah, why would the Wii need to get smaller? Unlike most systems, I don't see a design change in the Wii's ... : baron calamity
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                  I'd don't know if I expect 720p, a dvd player that kind of thing or not. I'd expect a more refined set o... : chazums
                  • AFAIK 720p would require a basic change to the architecture, so don't hold your breath. I'm also not s... : DinK
                  • more refined set of motion sensors? lol : MoreVespeneGas
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            I think you're right, I have to to hand it to MS for the way they attacked this generation. Very smart t... : chazums
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              Yeah, MS and Nintendo both figured it out. They each chose a market and stuck to it. Of course they're ... : Chris Remo
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                That's the risk when you get to the top, they lost focus and tried to turn everything up to 11 and it ran... : chazums
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                  That kind of upgrade-based generational advancement I don't think will ever succeed, and I hope it doesn'... : Chris Remo
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                    The Wii is just a generational upgrade of the game cube (from a programming perspective). It can work. : baron calamity
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                      What? That has nothing to do with anything. The Wii is a standalone machine, period. You can't "upgrad... : Chris Remo
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                        There is some confusion here. When Chazums was talking about an upgraded console, I took it as a new unit... : baron calamity
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                          Well he was talking about functionality that would allow games developed for this upgraded Xbox 360 to st... : Chris Remo
                          • I thought he was talking more about backwards compatibility.. xbox 3(720?) being able to play xbox 360 ga... : jaga
                          • I rather compressed two ideas into one there : chazums
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                          The difference with the Wii is that they're bringing a totally new control system to the table. : chazums
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                            Totally new? What about the power glove? : lightsam
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                              What about it? : Chris Remo
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                                whoa, I had this exact same post typed up then said meh and closed it. : DinK
                                • I lack that reflex : Chris Remo
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                                Wasn't it a motion sensing controller? : lightsam
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                                  Sure, they're both "motion sensing controllers" in the sense that Pong and Halo are both "video games." : Chris Remo
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                                    So it's not "totally new". : lightsam
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                                      Yes it's pretty much just the next Power Glove you're right good point : Chris Remo
                                      • Thanks. : lightsam
                        • They definitely paid the price by not being closer to the cost and release date of the 360. I just poste... : DinK
                      • I think what chazums was saying was that you could have an xbox 720 that would play 360 games, and then 7... : weaselmeister
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                    I hope that it doesn't happen but I get the feeling of impending doom about MS who, like you said, aren't : chazums
                    • Oh it's not suspicious at all. The whole reason Microsoft got into the console race was to prevent Sony ... : Chris Remo
                    • no it won't.. sony is demonstrating that most people really just don't want that : jaga
                  • Complacency is suicide, no doubt; on the whole I think Microsoft has demonstrated substantially more agil... : eldersveld
                • They didn't turn everything to 11. They forced Blu-ray into the console. That's pretty much the entire ... : DinK
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                It kills me that Little Big World is a PS3 exclusive. I could ignore the PS3 completely were it not for t... : tashtego
                • I could ignore the PS3 except for Team Ico's new game. : marmite
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  wait, i thought the wii was beating the 360 in total sales? i know this site isn't necessarily accurate, ... : jonas54
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    The number is for North America sales (or just the United States), and not global. : lightsam
    • oh i see : jonas54
• having release dates of the consoles in the perspective graph would be handy : MoreVespeneGas
• .. and looking at the perspective graph, people still deny PS3 is a failure ... sigh. : mystifier
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  Any chance of getting your Excel files for these? :D : notd665
  • I can put it up on my shackspace if you really want it. What do you want it for, if I may ask? : chazums

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  i don't get the big deal, it's their product, they should have the right to add it. as soon as i install... : davislovestacobell
  • Yeah, the bundle thing is silly. I'm more interested in the Web Standard complaint because it is so ridi... : SolrFlare
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  if there's no IE how am i to get firefox? :( : feek
  • CHICKEN OR THE EGG?!?! HOW? : majestik
  • I think we already had this thread today... : DOOManiac
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    back in the old days when this interweb thing was new, we used ftp, usenet, or terminal commands to downl... : SolrFlare
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      Or you went to Computer City or Egghead and bought one on a CD! : dognose
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        Holy crap, Egghead! Are they still in existence? : midgetherder
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          Yes, as newegg.com : dognose
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            Now I feel like a total dumbfuck. I actually thought that might be years ago when I first used them, but... : midgetherder
            • Nah they were pretty quiet about it, their brick and mortar wasn't doing well I think (even though they h... : dognose
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            Egghead Software, a historical United States software store chain which changed into an online store in 1... : rosewood
            • So, it isn't Newegg? : midgetherder
          • actually according to wikipedia..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egghead_Software : sludge vohaul
        • I think they were bought by Software Etc. who was bought by Babbage's who was bought by Gamestop. :( : DOOManiac
        • newegg... I bought IE3 at Wal-mart! : majestik
    • well how the fuck am I supposed to download one of those programs so I can get firefox?! : mikecyb
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  #1 is dumb in my book. : boomstickah
  • Agreed. Every operating system comes bundles with a browser. On the other hand 2 would be great. : terath
  • agreed. : AMikaboshi
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  Their case is hurt pretty badly by the success of Firefox, I think. I mean...it's kind of hard to show t... : Ovate
  • Look at the #s post IE7. I think a good lawyer could show MS' hold on the market. : rosewood
• point 1 is retarded. : Enigme
• as much as i've hated dealing with different browser doing different things with a given html/css, i thin... : snicker-snack 2
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  MS are already taking steps to improve their web standards compliance. So point 2 is totally unnecessary.... : thecray
  • Maybe by the time they roll out their next consumer OS, they'll have developed a version of IE that's on ... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  it would be pretty inconvenient if windows didn't come with a web browser. : aeg1x
  • Why? You can just download one from the Int...oh. : Ovate
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  Can I see Apple for bundling Safari with OSX ? : lord cecil
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    No, because you can delete it without affecting the OS. IE is tied into Windows. : Serpico74
    • You can remove access to IE, i don't see what the difference is really :/ : feek
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      but that's not the reason nobody is suing Apple. it's because Apple isn't anywhere near a monopoly so an... : electroly
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        Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly either. : Fred Garvin
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          that's for the prosecution to prove. if you're suing under antitrust laws, they have to be a monopoly. ... : electroly
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            There is a difference between an effective monopoly and a literal one. Microsoft does not have a literal ... : Fred Garvin
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              then opera won't succeed in suing. i don't understand what the problem is here. you can sue anyone for ... : electroly
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                Sure you can, but what's the point here? Seems like a publicity stunt more than a legal case. : Fred Garvin
                • publicity stunts aren't worthless if they think it'll bring them more customers. obviously they feel it'... : electroly
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  Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one. : Bean
  • Yea but in Europe lawyers still wear those wigs so anything could happen. : rosewood
• Lolz, no on both accounts. : Visceral Monkey
• MS should just re-christen one of their offices in Germany or France their "global" headquarters, make a ... : trove
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  I think this is one of the most retarded things ever : Zero|DPX
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    And since everyone thinks #2 is great, no it's not. #2 is retarded. First, you CANNOT be standards comp... : Zero|DPX
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      Can we just make #3 "Make IE7 not suck at shacknews" then? : crummynz
      • yes all browsers should be shacknews compliant : aeg1x
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        IE7 sucks at a lot of stuff, more than just Shacknews, and IMO, more stuff than Firefox or Opera suck at.... : Zero|DPX
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          Feel better now? : rosewood
          • Barely :( : Zero|DPX
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          Sucking or not, there are very few sites that IE doesn't work with. The Shack being one and most of the o... : Fred Garvin
          • There are more than you think, but in general you're right; however, only because IE has so much market s... : Zero|DPX
        • Thanks Tim!! : sludge vohaul
    • I like XHTML's strict tagging, but since you cant serve it as XHTML it just gets all broken in the tag so... : zanzares
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      But to achieve "just working", isn't the goal to work towards being standards-compliant? "Just working" i... : airrob
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        the goal is to be compatible with the largest set of webpages in the wild, period. being strictly standa... : electroly
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          Standards is the wrong word. I don't mean the specifications. I mean that the same code should render the... : airrob
          • indirectly, that's an equivalent goal. all browser vendors are working on compatibility with the same se... : electroly
          • Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. That should be the goal, but many people think the goal sh... : Zero|DPX
    • when most web devs or designers say 'standards' they just generally mean some kind of rendering standard.... : mikecyb
    • MNG support would be awesome if it became widespread (i.e. IE and Firefox at least). I don't think any... : nudel
  • IAWTZ. : sharkII
• Lolpera : shred.
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  lol!!!! unbundle IE from Windows? does that mean Apple has to unbundle Safari from Mac OS? : Korban
  • Apple is a closed platform, sells it own hardware, and has a miniscule market share in comparison to MS : Bantis
• Didn't this already happen several years ago, with Netscape vs Microsoft? I'd love nothing more than for... : Ride-My-Rocket
• WTF? How can one company ask another to follow standards? That's just plain stupid. I mean it would be gr... : Fred Garvin
• If Microsoft takes IE out, how do you download Opera? :P Seriously this is retarded. Bundling IE with ... : K1Bond007
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  Half of me just wishes Microsoft would just go all Atlas Shrugged on Europe, pull all support, the activa... : Orange Pylon
  • I was going to say that, out of spite, they should start shipping all versions of Windows to Europe witho... : riptyde
  • os x isnt that expensive. $129 for the FULL OS vs. $99 for Vista Basic UPGRADE. And since OS X uses so mu... : not work safe
• safari is bundled with os x so whats the major difference? : Klebold
• whats opera? : tension

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• Not that I'm aware of. : Robotic Puppy Eater
• Nope. : adpalumbo
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  i believe so. this is what i have been told... : stalewood
  • You've been told wrong. You're definitely not required to carry ID on you in the US. : electroly
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  Show me zee paperz! : pres589
  • your paperz, zey are not in orderrr. cleen up zis mess!! : jrock
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  what about on university property? I haven't checked Mizzou's policy, but maybe someone knows their univ... : thief
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    Some universities require that you carry your student ID when you're on campus. UWM does. : electroly
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      or just say that you're not a student. : j0nchan
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        in which case they escort you off of university property because you're not supposed to be there : electroly
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          and the fact that it's a public school doesnt mean anything? : j0nchan
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            It's still a private campus isn't it? : lightsam
            • Nope, state schools are public property. certain building might be restricted access(like dorms), but I'... : Phearsome
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  If you're driving. Otherwise you can be as naked as a person with pants on. : Trips
  • Don't forget a shirt and shoes, or you get no service. : lightsam
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  no, unless you're a muslim : filthysock
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    Well, any kind of non white : rosewood
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      so "evil" then? : skinlab133
      • I didn't want to come out and say it : rosewood
• No way, anyone who tells you it is most likely is a raging fascist. : nukewinter
• not yet anyway. that will probably change as more of our civil liberties are flushed down the toilet. : MagicWishMonkey
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  I ask because I saw some skaters get stopped by a police officer who asked for their I.D. I walked to my... : thief
  • you should have stuck around for the tazing : MagicWishMonkey
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    They probably didn't have any ID with them, just as they claimed, but were doing something mildly illegal... : bostrov
    • indeed. if you are doing something illegal, be sure to keep ID on your person for an easy citation! : dahanese
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  i think in theory no, but if a cop asks for your id and you have it, it's hard to tell him no : snicker-snack 2
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    especially when he gives you those puppy dog eyes : MagicWishMonkey
    • or the hose : snicker-snack 2
    • Here's a short poem i wrote about you....super cool : mindmann
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  papiers, bitte : melt_core
  • NO tickets! : not work safe
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  no, it's not a requirement, but arguing that point with a cop pulling you over is likely to get you tazed : ttyRazor
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    "pulling you over" suggests driving, and you definitely need ID in that case, AND have to turn it over up... : DinK
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      Exactly. It's illegal to drive without your license with you in many if not all states. : riptyde
      • Yup, plus it's very clear when you get it that you are agreeing to turn it over to law enforcement upon r... : DinK
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  don't you have some sort of ID on you all the time anyway ? stuff like your driver's licence etc ? It'... : rookieone
  • france : jaga