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  no because there's going to be a new model in like 6 months : wtf242
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    Did that ever stop you from buying a video card? : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      i'm not a gamer. My video card is old. It's a 7950GT without a fan. I'll upgrade my video card when one o... : wtf242
      • also i swear to jesus this is my current cell phone http://www.turnofthecrank.com/wtf/cellphone.jpg i... : wtf242
      • I have that video card, too. It's nice not to have a PC that sounds like a jet intake. : ChibiJosh
    • Yes. If there's a good chance that a new generation with some new features will be out relatively soon a... : Prozium
• Nein! : grayscale
• No or I'll stab you in the back. A lot. : Moonbase Commander
• I like mine. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  no wait for 2nd gen : Sparhawk6
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    Are there any indications as to what 2nd-gen will bring to the table? : ShekkyBoy
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      All indications point to it being more awesome than the first generation. : K1Bond007
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        Just how more awesome will this awesomeness be? : ShekkyBoy
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          It doesn't matter. The shack will bitch about it and tell you to wait for 3rd gen. : Robotic Puppy Eater
          • heh - so true :D : jbury
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  I want one but I live in Canada. How hard would it be for to get to get the phone and get it so I'll actu... : NastyJack
  • if you can find one with 1.1.1 firmware, super fucking easy. not so much for the newer versions. : gokart.
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  It is pretty great. However, 3G is probably coming out next year. Do you need one now or do you want to w... : Serpico74
  • I need one now. : dmason
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  typing on the iPhone is horrid. you might as well entertain yourself and type with your dick on it. : m0rfus
  • weird. I loved it like 5 minutes after fucking around : Morgin
  • I type faster on it with fewer errors than on a Treo or Blackberry. Suck less. : Serpico74
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  no get an ipod touch and a proper phone : CoRDS
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    no, get a proper ipod and a proper phone. The iPhone/touch UI is great and all but it doesn't make up ... : nudel
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      i went from a 20GB ipod to an 8GB ipod touch and i think the UI totally makes up for the capacity. yeah,... : electroly
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        About 1% of a music player's time is spent choosing a song using the UI. The rest of the time it's in you... : nudel
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          i use the itouch for the web browser probably more than i do the actual music playing. i use smart playl : electroly
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            Sounds like you use the thing as an internet tablet more than for music so we're talking about very diffe... : nudel
            • i think i was particularly unlucky when i dropped my 3G. i was going to put it in my pocket and missed, : electroly
    • i bought mine for the video playback and it > everything else ipod . i watch half a movie or topgear duri... : CoRDS
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      do you honestly listen to more than 14gig of music a day? : CoRDS
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        How many times do people have to explain this? it's not about listening to all of that music all the t... : nudel
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          evolve and let the chips fall where they may. there does not exist an mp3 player that can store my wh... : CoRDS
          • not even the 160GB ipod? are you all lossless or do you just have a huge collection? : electroly
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            That's crazy logic. Even if you have so much music that it won't fit into 160GB when compressed at 192kbp... : nudel
            • i love the UI of the touch but as ive said, i use mine for more video than anything. and i have my music ... : CoRDS
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            I don't believe you. Men At Work only released 3 albums! : moshman
            • Don't forget Midnight Oil and INXS! : ThomW
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    The iPhone is a proper phone, it is the Touch that I question as being a good iPod. Unless you need a big... : Serpico74
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      jailbreaking is pretty much the easiest thing in the world, i don't know why you wouldn't do it : electroly
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        Sure, but most people still don't do it. The lack of any internet access outside of wifi is still a big m... : Serpico74
        • yeah, i like that about the iphone. i've had some second thoughts about getting the itouch instead of th... : electroly
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      Lack of 3G is also ridiculous in this day and age, the camera is crap, the lack of any physical keys make... : nudel
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        Anandtech posted a great article on what the effect of battery life would have been had they included 3G : Serpico74
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          No-one used/uses 3G anyway (at least in the UK). Before the iPhone was released and people latched on to ... : peanut-
          • While I would love 3G (I use EDGE every day) the drain on the battery would make it pretty useless as a m : Serpico74
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            People have been using 3G for a while, not maybe people but the service and phones are there. : chazums
            • I used to work for 3 and got a new handset every two months. I can tell you they're shit, the phones are ... : peanut-
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            That sounds like a very outdated view of things. Single-chip 3G phones exist now so they need not be any ... : nudel
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              it would have halved battery life, according to Anandtech I guess the new single chip ones are better,... : jcupitt
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                The AnandTech article is bullshit, if it's this one: http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3036... : nudel
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                  It does have a huge effect on battery life, especially when your doing push email. : snowwolf
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                    Even with newer 3G chipsets? You might be right but nobody is citing any information other than what Steve Jobs said (which should always be taken with a mountain of salt) and that AnandTech article.
                    
                    Even *if* the battery life is significantly worse with newer 3G chipsets, a lot of people in Europe would rather have the option of 3G web browsing even if it meant a larger battery, or switching to email polling (with the 3G hardware powering down between polls and the voice side dropping back to GSM as it does anyway when there is no 3G/EDGE coverage) if it came to that. Obviously that is a subjective trade-off which wouldn't please everyone but that reiterates the potential for more than one device in the family, if it is indeed impossible to add 3G without cutting any corners.
                    

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                    Even with newer 3G chipsets? You might be right but nobody is citing any information other than what Stev... : nudel
                    • well, that's why there's a 3G one coming in a few months, heh at the time the iphone hardware was fina... : jcupitt
          • I use 3G all the time, even 3.5G now. It's awesome and i have a monthly flatrate for 10 quid. : moshman
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        I sign this whole heartily. I shed a tear when I heard the sending SMS to multiple contacts was not a pos... : gummijoh
        • Not being able to CC text messages is my main complaint outside of no cut and paste. These are supposed t... : Serpico74
      • I got over the lack of keys and typing issues in about 2 hours of actually using my itouch. That is serio... : Slowtreme
• If you play with an iPhone at an Aple store and have the money, you will buy it, whether it makes sense o... : stuka
• This probably wont mean much to you, but supposedly tmobile is making its 3g announcement on thursday. j... : smacknca
• Yes, they're sweet. Using them every day has totally changed my opinion of them. Feature list be damned, ... : peanut-
• nom nom nom (that's your money being eaten) : windowpane
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  just spend six hundred dollars on a really nice nametag that says 'im an asshole' instead : MoreVespeneGas
  • :( I guess I want to be an asshole in MoreVespeneGas's eyes. : ThomW
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    you do know they cost $400 now, right? : Postal
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      Dude, he doesn't need your fucking FACTS. He's happier just making shit up, so leave him alone ! : taronish
      • Maybe he was including the contract you're forced to sign up for? Oh wait, that would put the price into ... : nudel
• no 3g :( : dael
• no! : matthaeus
• http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/11/29/att.3g.iphone.in.2008/ : Lone Swordsman
• My iTouch is the most amazing device i have ever owned. and it could only be better if I had access outsi... : Slowtreme