Morning Discussion

So how about that Mass Effect? Isn't that combat great? That combat is so good, I sold my copy of Halo 3. That combat is so awesome, I've made hundred of YouTube videos detailing all of my expertly executed tactics. The combat is so sweet, it's replaced Deadly Towers as my favorite game to kill things in. Mass Effect's combat is so good, I called and canceled id's new game. And every other game. Nothing can top Mass Effect's combat. Nothing.

Hope everyone had a lovely vacation, and failing that at least a nice weekend. To see this week's new releases, none of which have combat as good as Mass Effect's, check out Faylor's roundup.

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    November 26, 2007 4:46 AM

    Hey
    Hey geedeck

    shut up

    okay

    Mass Effect is great :[

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      November 26, 2007 4:48 AM

      MORE LIKE ASS EFFECT

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      November 26, 2007 4:48 AM

      I didn't say it wasn't great, it is.. I just want everyone to understand how bloody fucking incredibrilliant the combat is.

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        November 26, 2007 4:49 AM

        lol.

        Well I dig the combat actually, my only complaint is the sometimes braindead AI.

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        November 26, 2007 5:15 AM

        i like the combat. your overreacting. its not nearly as bad . maybe you just need to tweak out your shit more. when im using my assault rifle i feel like im playing halo in third person. the aim is on point. i dont use tech or biotics just guns as i am a soldier. i dunno i think i love this game

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          November 26, 2007 5:31 AM

          No, I'm pretty sure it's horrible. The only way to fight without instant death is to hide behind things more often than Gollum, the computer has uber-powers that make you fall over like Stephen Hawkings and then it shoots you. Oh yeah and the AI isn't worth shit. I don't know why they didn't give control over to other players, I'd play that game in a heartbeat. Why can RPGs either only be 1 player or a fucking bajillion?

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            November 26, 2007 7:05 AM

            i dunno man i dont have any quips about the combat. my squad listens to me. my assualt rifle has a reticle that gets small enough to perform headshots constantly. i love everything about this game

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              November 26, 2007 7:11 AM

              I think my primary beef is the fight with counselor troi, because like I said, she can just make you fall down and it's not stasis. I don't see that as a good mechanic like whatsoever. It just made that one fight so very very hard. Mostly it's those weird boss encounters, random lethality and how the autosave system arbitrarily saves (well, doesn't). I try to enjoy the combat but usually its just getting in the way of me try to play the RPG aspect of the game.

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                November 26, 2007 9:24 AM

                i dont think ive gotten that far yet. i only just completed noveria as my second planet, feros being the first.

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                  November 26, 2007 9:32 AM

                  I'm almost sure he's talking about the Noveria boss fight with the matriarch My main gripe with that is that they should have made us go there last. It's clearly the hardest fight in the game and to go there randomly at lvl 12 is suicide. They should have just laid out 2 planets and then "unlocked" noveria afterwards, perhaps with the explanation that her daughter sensed her there or something

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                    November 26, 2007 11:22 AM

                    i kinda thought thats what he was talking about but he didnt use any of those key words such as noveria or matriarch. honestly enough..i only had to replay that part 2 times. and then i owned the shit out of her.

                    and i let the queen bug live.. did you?

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            November 26, 2007 7:10 AM

            Sounds like you suck dude. I use my teammates as bait and then I do that super badass Assault Rifle move and then I'm all like "BRATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATAT" and the bad guys are like "OHSHIT*DIES*". I throw in a few Unity's and Adrenaline's to keep the bait alive, and I have had very few combat encounters go screwy on me.

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            November 26, 2007 7:21 AM

            I dunno man. Playing on Normal, I got knocked over by biotic powers no more than three times during my 28 hour playthrough. I was playing as a soldier with an assault rifle, but biotic powers never really touched me during a fight.

            As far as the friendly AI goes, it wasn't all that bad. Sometimes they took the good cover spots and sometimes my biotic friendly would break bad and get in everyone's grill for some reason, but overall I never found them doing anything too terribly dumb.

            Maybe the wide variety in character options and squad setups is what is causing some people to be fine with the combat and some people to have issues. It would help to say what class you were, who your teammates are, and what difficulty.

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            November 26, 2007 8:43 AM

            Honestly, I think you are doing it wrong. I admit, I had a few restarts in the beginning due to taking a rocket/plasma cannon to the face, but once I figured out that taking said rocket/plasma cannons to the face equals instant death, I adapted and kept my head down and stayed behind cover. Now I'm level a level 37 Shock Trooper with ridiculous amounts of health, and between master Immunity, Overkill and Adrenaline, I can single handedly destroy pretty much anything the game has thrown at me thus far. Did I expect to be Master Chief at the beginning? Obviously not. Did I expect to be a bad mother fucker by the end? Yes, and I am.

            I don't understand how you can fault a game for an intentional cover mechanic meant to keep you alive if you use it properly. I also rarely have issue with my squads AI, and I find the characters I use complement my soldier's abilities very well to the point where I find them useful (almost). Turn on Automatic skill use for your squad AI and make an effort to build their complimentary skills properly.

            I get the feeling you're trying to play the game like you're some kind of super hero juggernaut death star destroyer right from the start. Or Master Chief. You're not (at least not until late game). You're a human pawn sent on a suicide mission to prove humanity is worth a damn against superior forces.

            This isn't Halo, it's not an FPS first, RPG second, and because of that I find the combat more than adequate as a necessary filler between plot and character development. Could it be better? Yes. Is it the god-awful, pox upon humanity you and Remo make it out to be? No.

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            November 26, 2007 8:52 AM

            What difficulty level did you play on? I played on Veteran and didn't run into any of the instant death issues more than a couple times and same with the uber-powers.

            However, I agree that the AI is shit in this game. Both for your squad and the enemy. So horrible.

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            November 26, 2007 9:15 AM

            ~you're bad at games~

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            November 26, 2007 9:31 AM

            if you set them to use their offensive powers at will and use the right d-pad alot to target enemies, they usually help you out killing people and stuff. the AI still sucks, but i haven't died and my squad has rarely died in the last 15 levels or so. i'm playing on veteran, aim assist off. only have to take cover in a few situations, like when i get low on health.

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            November 26, 2007 9:35 AM

            You can control your teammates use of power if you choose to. It's an option in the gameplay menu. IMO, my team did fine on their own.

            I dunno, I didn't find combat difficult at all except for one battle and that was because I went there first, before the other two initial planets.

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          November 26, 2007 5:33 AM

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        November 26, 2007 9:18 AM

        "bloody fucking incredibrilliant?" isn't that a good thing? like... incredibly brilliant?

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      November 26, 2007 5:13 AM

      I take it the post about it's combat was sarcasm? I thought it's combat was great.

      The only thing that drove me nuts is that the "stuff to do on every planet" turned into a repetitive drive Mako 100 goddamn miles over mountain to bunker that looks the same as every other planets bunker. I just beat the game yesterday completing all the side missions, about 36 hours of gameplay, and I honestly don't think I'll ever do the side missions again, which kind of limits my abilitty of ever getting the level 60 achievement. Oh well.

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        November 26, 2007 5:38 AM

        Ah, thought I'd add, I played as a Vanguard, so I can't comment on how enjoyable the other classes are. Lift + throw never got old; the Carnage ability with the shotgun was pretty badass as well. In all fairness to it's combat side, the abilities are definitely limited compared to their previous games, and I could see something like the solider class being dull to play.

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      November 26, 2007 9:17 AM

      I don't like the combat in Mass Effect I LOVE IT!!

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