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  I agree that ubering a soldier is not ideal in anyway, but I think generally it's even worse to uber a de... : feek
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    I've done some serious damage as an uber'd soldier. I don't think it is a total waste but it sure can se... : rosewood
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      Yeah it just seems to me that his 4 rockets are so shitty when you're on a timer. Granted there are far b... : NastyJack
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        I guess that's true if you're using stickies and your sole goal is to take out sentries : feek
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          Well it's the main goal (it's the most important thing in my opinion) but it's not the only goal. I usual... : NastyJack
          • But they'll definitely notice two glowing guys. I've seen enemies just fruitlessly unload their non-expl... : Grimp
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    Well as far as I'm concerned ubers shouldn't be used in any other situations. Why uber except to take a p... : NastyJack
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      I think the soldier is generally more lethal when it comes to killing enemies. Given that an uber allo... : feek
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        You're assuming regular grenades will be used during an uber. I've played 35 hours of demoman and I rarel... : NastyJack
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          Yeah, I am assuming that since that's what most people do. I guess you'd be worth ubering, and you should... : feek
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            I try but like I said there is serious heavy/soldier bias :( : NastyJack
            • Offer oral : rosewood
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          Stickies don't compare to rockets for offense against anything but heavies and turrets IMO. Everyone els... : Boxelder
          • I completely disagree. Like I've said I've played 35+ hours of demoman and there are only 2 classes I don... : NastyJack
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            totally disagree. an engineer camped behind a turret with a dispenser behind him can withstand and entire... : edgewise
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              That's what I'm talking about. And I assume you'd know since you were absolutely killing as an engineer i... : NastyJack
              • yep, that's really the only way my turrets were going down. Tunis had me ranged from behind his rock and ... : edgewise
            • I did say except against turrets and heavies, but I guess Demomen such against heavies. That's what Nast... : Boxelder
  • Yeah, you did pretty well when I ubered you tonight. You said you weren't ready, but then you cleared th... : Grimp
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  IAWTP. I also like seeing uber + pyro as you can really toast the shit out of some motherfuckers in that... : rosewood
  • Well that's just a really, really shitty demoman. There is absolutely no way that it should be hard to de... : NastyJack
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    Ubered Pyros = The Reaper in TF2 form. Gotta love clearing a point defended by 6-7 guys by flaming ther... : ArtilleryMarker
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      Pyros can do amazing damage to engy structures too. I think that is often overlooked. : rosewood
      • I totally agree. Medics need to start testing out ubers on demomen and pyros more if they can pry themsel... : NastyJack
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  I don't fear an uber'd demoman at all unless I am an engineer. For taking out entrenched turrets, yeah th... : Jackass1233
  • Most demomen use regular grenades in regular combat which is such a horrible idea. When they start to cat... : NastyJack
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  So noted! One thing to consider though is that a demo will find it fairly hard to protect the medic (c... : Johnny Law
  • If you are a demo and you happen upon a teleporter exit, lay your nades and wait a few seconds to get the... : rosewood
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    Oh yeah, and that demo would always truck on back to our cap point with me when uber started blinking out... : Johnny Law
    • I don't think it was me but it's something I do all the time on that map. : NastyJack
  • i know i tend to gravitate towards classes who can protect me. i love sticking on pyros, for example. sol... : mindmann
• Uber'd sniper on 2fort. Nuff said. : DooBall
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  I agree ubering soliders isn't always the best option (not enough amo without reloading), but using a sol... : Boxelder
  • Also don't discount the Soldiers shotgun. Not enough people use it but I get a ton of kills with it, esp... : Boxelder
  • That's very true. You've got be the kind of medic who knows how to keep out of the line of fire really we... : NastyJack
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  heavies/pyros are the BEST for invun. But as far as when I'm playing medic, I heal up those most in need... : paravis
  • Ubered pyros are awesome against groups of dudes but turrets are such a nuisance, you end up being pushed... : Alicey
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  good idea, except you are the only demoman i would uber. i just havent seen quality demomen on shackserv... : mXENO
  • Yeah that might be why I have a hard time getting ubers. Not many people know how to play the class beyon... : NastyJack
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  I got like 5 or 6 kills within the span of 10 seconds as an uber'ed pyro tonight. Cleared out the whole c... : DOOManiac
  • I've seen the entire team (literally, the entire team) die to an ubered pyro on dustbowl on one of the co... : Gauss
  • Think I was one of the unfortunate ones : Waffles!
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  I heal the player who is getting the most shit done (ie advancing positions, taking out turrets) and will... : Lightzout
  • find the one guy who spends the entire match mashing the medic button, target him, follow him into battle... : Gauss
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  I've seen you play and you are an uber-worthy demoman. I play medic a lot and the problem is getting to... : Grimp
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    I agree with what you're saying. What more medics and demomen need to do is actually plan what they want ... : NastyJack
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      Forty seconds is a long time to go without a medic in battle, though. I see your idea as more of a situa... : Grimp
      • It's not long if you're on offense and the goal is to clear a point because I can guarantee you sentrys w... : NastyJack
• Usually I just uber whoever I think is competent enough not to waste an uber, whether it be soldier, demo... : Waffles!
• Alot of times ubers are used to push the other team back, even if the soldier doesn't kill everyone aroun... : romulan
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  b(Best Shackers and Classes}b nasty jack : demoman sweet lew: spy fireman: soldier anyone else? : mXENO
  • Sniper is without a doubt Furious Styles. I haven't even seen anyone else come close to that guy, I'm alw... : NastyJack
  • i'd like to get really good at one class, but i haven't found that class yet. : mindmann
  • me: all classes : PlanetPerfecto
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    i don't know if he's the best, but Maddog is my favorite pyro, he runs around screaming "BURNNN MOTHERFUC... : laurgasms
    • I would have to agree with this assessment :) : Waffles!
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  I spent some time on you tonight. and I agree we did some serious damage. I wish your mic worked =( : hirez
  • Yeah sorry about that. It's a piece of shit in so many ways. Uncomfortable and bad volume. I'll be gettin... : NastyJack
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  as primarily an engineer and soldier (19 and 14 hours respectively) I'll agree with your post. As an uber... : edgewise
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    actually, I can see an ubered demo being extremely deadly in another way. Say you're attacking on gravelp... : edgewise
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      Yeah the only problem is that I've found if any enemy sees your stickies they just won't come anywhere ne... : NastyJack
      • and If I am a heavy and see them, I will shoot them off the point rendering them useless. : hirez
  • Yeah it's not easy. You've got to stay on ground level #1. Jumping or falling from any height into a room... : NastyJack
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  Oh, there is a defense against this kind of attack: A pyro backing you up. On a defense map, a few ... : rosewood
  • So, pyros can burn stickies? Do they detonate, or just disappear? : suqur
• I got the gf to talk into the mic to get some extra attn from medics. Genius. : Kenshin_
• I think I play a pretty solid demoman and I have definitely had some sentry-busting uber rampages, so I'v... : wasylm
• I hate ubering soldiers. They don't fire/reload fast enough. : ZombieAcademy

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  3.3 million...next closest game is 282,000. Eep. : RomSteady
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    It's a motherfucking juggernaut is what it is. : Fred Garvin
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      And even with a bunch of people buying a 360 for Halo 3 it just barely outsold the Wii hardware wise. : RevRaven
      • Too bad no software on Wii really sells well, outside of Nintendo. : GeorgeB3DR
      • I bet that the 360 has more longevity than the Wii though. : dasampla
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  bioshock already down to just 150k for september? thats too bad : Maarten Goldstein
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    Game sales drop precipitously. This is why the initial 2-3 week period of sales is so crucial. : RomSteady
    • Especially single player games. They often don't have the legs a game like H3 with strong multi has. : Fred Garvin
  • That's actually pretty good for a month, especially 2 months after release. : GeorgeB3DR
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    MS press release says it's sold 641,000 and is projected to break a million eventually, which ain't bad. ... : Johnny Law
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      no they are more likely to be US only. : Maarten Goldstein
      • NPDs are US only, but I think the projected-million is for worldwide sales. Either way, a pretty nice : Johnny Law
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  Wait, X360 outsold both the Wii and the NDS? I don't think that's ever happened. : deveus1
  • probably the same person is buying all three systems at the same time. : j0nchan
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  every time these are posted, it is mindblowing to me that that many consoles are sold every month. tha... : FrayLo
  • The sheer number of continuing PS2 sales is nuts, whether it's beating the PS3 or not. The PS2 could lik... : DinK
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    I think the same thing. I can't believe there are 215k new PS2 owners in September. What are they all p... : ThomW
    • I wonder how many are replacements vs new owners. : DinK
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      They're playing any number of the thousands upon thousands of games available for the PS2, what else woul... : Chris Remo
      • Their one and only New Kids On The Block CD. : nudel
      • Probably all bought used at Gamestop. :( : ThomW
      • What I mean is what finally pushed them over the edge to buy a console? It's not like the thing hasn't b... : ThomW
    • poor people. and kids. : chilln
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      It's fucking mind boggling that that console is still selling 100s of thousands in the US alone every sin... : aeg1x
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        US is 50% of the world market for the most part. : GeorgeB3DR
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          I'm not 100% sure but I think Europe is the bigger market. Or maybe that's just bigger revenue due to how... : aeg1x
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            Maybe in terms of population, but I think just as it is for movie box office revenue, North America spend... : edgewise
            • plus the investment for the US is far less than how many localized versions you need for Europe plus all ... : derelict515
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            if that was really true companies would do a better job with this market : Maarten Goldstein
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              even if it's not true it's not like Europe is a tiny market. There is probably only 10-20% difference bet... : aeg1x
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                because its not trivial to translate the game into 12 languages, deal with getting it certified by a rati... : derelict515
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                  The EU needs to introduce a common language and common certification process to go with the common curren... : nudel
                  • The English versions always have the better quality voice acting too, so a lot of people will always try ... : Beady
    • You can get a PS2 and 5 amazing games for $200. A 360 and 5 games is going to cost you $700. Ultimately t... : derelict515
    • Would it surprise you if I told you I don't own a ps2 and can't remember ever playing a ps2 game? I event... : boomstickah
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      I can't remember, are these actual sales to end users? or sales to resellers? because the former is a lot... : Kniggit
      • not just a ton, but a ton of awesome games that are now $20 new rather than $60 : derelict515
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        Well I wouldn't put too much stock in the reliability of the numbers to be honest. They don't have access... : aeg1x
        • Wrong! Peter Moore said they are amazingly accurate. : phil_mckraken
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          Well, if Wal-Mart indeed tracks differently than NPD's numbers, and the store's sales are not roughly pro... : Chris Remo
          • I'm talking in general, not specifically regarding the PS2. We don't know what kind of estimate they're d... : aeg1x
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  So the PS2's finally cooling off, then? : Ride-My-Rocket
  • In terms of SW sales, that is. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Sort of, but those are still extremely respectable numbers. : Chris Remo
  • perhaps in terms of huge hits, but with a catalog of tens of thousands of games and a bunch of new owners... : edgewise
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  Amazing, the most hugest entertainment event in history didn't even put a dent in Wii sales. : vigilante
  • "The Wii went up against the self-proclaimed 'biggest entertainment launch ever' and we emerged with our ... : vigilante
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    that's not really saying much beyond 1) most halo 3 customers already owned a 360 and 2) Wii buyers are l... : edgewise
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      It looks to me like Halo 3 pushed a bunch of 360s. Or something in September certainly did anyway. Po... : Johnny Law
      • it sold approx 300k more than it normally would in a 5 week month. : edgewise
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    Ok, so show me the Wii game that sold 3.3 million copies int he first 12 days. : Fred Garvin
    • show me the wii sales declining. he never said anything about a wii game selling 3.3 million. their sal... : AllYourBase
• whats sad is PC numbers in comparison. 10's of thousands for most AFAIK. ETQW was number one this past we... : Cygnus X-1
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  Those Bioshock and Metroid numbers don't make me happy. Those are both such great game. : Serpico74
  • Be prepared for a similar issue with Mass Effect. I bet it gets tons of praise, but it's sales will proba... : edgewise
  • Keep in mind: They sold 490k last month. This is 360 sales only. This is North America only. From ... : PumpRock
  • Bioshock has sold over a million units worldwide, over 800K in USA : snowwolf
• the freaking gameboy advance isn't far behind the PS3 lol : AllYourBase
• Lol, heavenly sword : Beady

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• but but but, the thumb sticks..... : gibolas1234
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  so what you are saying is that you want LIVE matchmaking? It exists in GFW-L and you mention playing H3 ... : malloc
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    I don't care if it's Live matchmaking or battle.net matchmaking, or gpgnet matchmaking, all I care is tha... : Gauss
    • it will be interesting to see how Gears of War PC does when its released. : malloc
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  Isn't game for windows only a vista thing? Yea, just like Dx10, they fucked that in the ass. Big fuck you... : d0gbert
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    this is a quite common misconception, XP is supported. : malloc
    • And supporting DX10 on XP would require turning XP's OS internals into Vista, which is a ridiculous thing... : nudel
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  I have 0 issues with the games I play but if I did, it would be worth dealing with for the games. Certai... : Pneum0
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    if I want to play alone, its fine, its when I want to play with my friends that problems start cropping u... : Gauss
    • Same here, but I coordinate which server to enter through ventrillo or steams chat. I even used a teleph... : Pneum0
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  I don't really have any problems. Filters, man! Filters! Half of your complaints are easily avoided. You ... : aeg1x
  • filters help not one bit if I want to get on a server with three of my friends and get on the same team, ... : Gauss
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    He's talking partly about playing with friends. Shit I remember playing HL DM or q3a and having to tell ... : judasen
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      Well that is exactly what Steam allows you to do. : aeg1x
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        'Server is full. Auto-Retry? Autobalancing. 24/7 2fort!' Steam lets us avoid the 'which server are you... : Gauss
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          I don't understand your complaint. If you don't want to play 24/7 2fort, avoid 24/7 2fort servers. Do you... : aeg1x
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            Then I wind up on a server that has insane capture limits set, or a ridiculous map rotation, or no map ro... : Gauss
            • Filtering by server settings is exactly what Live is doing though. It just finds servers that match your ... : aeg1x
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          I think Valve is working on some things that will help this, more specifically stuff to make clan matches... : ovrlrd
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            I've given it time, a lot of time, that's part of the reason I'm so disgusted. A huge problem is that eve... : Gauss
            • Right, any sort of matchmaking on the PC is going to be on a per-game basis. If you want something more ... : mathyou
          • and oddly enough the good gaming servers are paid for. : judasen
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  I personally prefer a server list to matchmaking. It's easy to find friends as you can have a server and ... : razlebol
  • Depends. I like matchmaking in RTS games. For a game of TF2 I stick to servers I know are well admined an... : aeg1x
  • I do agree that gamespy sucks though and company need to find another solution then using their system. E... : razlebol
  • stats argument is a fallacy, there's nothing stopping you from running into grossly skilled players witho... : Gauss
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    Yeah and without ranked matchmaking you're much MORE likely to run into ridiculously skilled fuckers. ... : Chris Remo
    • The difference is there's no expectation of playing people of your skill level when there isn't matchmaki... : mathyou
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  Who the fuck uses Gamespy browser? : freshyk
  • RiP quakespy :( : razlebol
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    I'm not talking about the browser : Gauss
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      Yeah but you mentioned so I'm just curious if anyone here actually uses it. : freshyk
      • nah, just 'Powered by Gamespy', aka, 'lolololol, bet you wish there was a better option' : Gauss
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  Pretty much agree. : GeorgeB3DR
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    After DNF makes a billion dollars will you do something about it? : Mondo
    • It'd be easier to just stop developing for PC. : freshyk
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      If DNF does it right without a shitty GameSpy implementation I'll be happy to let them keep the billion a... : Sapiens
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        Lead by example? Valve is already doing that. : freshyk
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          I don't care if it comes out on Steam or uses some 3DR home grown jobber, I just want whatever they decid... : Sapiens
          • Actually i do care. Bring it to Steam (since most of my friends are there). : [7]kami
• I agree, it's such an uphill battle particularly if the game you want to play isn't either the top game a... : Chris Remo
• I'm liking the steam community "stopgap" but you will never prevent "problems" with servers as long as yo... : DinK
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  host your own server if you want to play with friends. you do realize this is how Live works, right? : kill9
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    Holy shit I'm glad you asked! I spent a fucking HOUR trying to get a game of HL2DM set up with a friend ... : Amadan
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      I just go CREATE SERVER and invite people through Steam :( Also you can enable console in the options. : aeg1x
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        create server + invite doesn't work for me. We get "server not responding every time." Like I said, unt... : Amadan
        • yah you need to know something about networking to host any type of game server on PCs. That is what is... : Shadowdane
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      you can turn the console on in the options and port forwarding has to be done on the 360 too if you're... : kill9
      • I didn't know you could enable the console from the options, so I give you that. But there's no denying ... : Amadan
  • Exactly what I was thinking. : dasampla
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  steam?? : Zibro
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    are all PC MP games played through steam? : judasen
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      no, there's also the ones on battle.net : Zibro
      • like Diablo and starcraft? : judasen
    • Well you can add third party games to steam but the server browser doesn't work with them. Incidentally, ... : aeg1x
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    to expand: i don't know what's wrong with a server browser window, matchmaking works for RTS but FPS ehh ... : Zibro
    • I know how he could communicate them without having that problem, because he did. You're saying "I don... : Chris Remo
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15368351#itemanchor_15368351 : Amadan
• Wow, I agree with every point you made. That pretty much describes why I barely play games on the PC anym... : rudds
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  All Seeing Eye- RIP- It was through ASE that I found the shack. Why the open source community of smart ga... : Lightzout
  • Qtracker? It's a bit slow with the updates, but not bad as a browser. : treework
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    ASE was amazing. I'm still bummed that it died the way that it did. : Serpico74
    • yeah why the fuck did Yahoo buy it if they weren't going to support it? : aeg1x
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    Word! Glad to see someone remembers ASE. I still run the forums but may shut them down eventually. ... : Sapiens
    • Whoops, here's a better YouTube link. http://youtube.com/user/LagunaSlick : Sapiens
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      When Ecks stopped updating filters, that's when ASE officially died. Too bad. How much trouble is it to p... : Serpico74
      • More than the program was making in registrations I would assume. : Sapiens
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  I honestly see no value in live, or any pros over pc gameing that live, halo 3, or cod 4 have over any mu... : dilutedq
  • your just refusing to acknowledge the merits of a better system then, or you have never used live. Yes yo... : Jackass1233
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  No, these things aren't problems, they never were for me. And anyone saying that multiplayer gaming hasn'... : SpaecKow
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    That's the difference I think, for me anyway. I don't have time to care about that crap anymore. I'll n... : Amadan
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      To be clear, it should be understood that I am coming at this from the perspective of an age-old PC gamer... : Gauss
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        I'd hate to think how frustrated you were ten years ago playing QuakeWorld. I mean what the fuck would yo... : SpaecKow
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          Back then it was accepted as the way it is and in 12 years it really hasn't evolved that much with the ex... : sigpro
          • Exactly. The world has moved on and PC multiplayer hasn't. Back when I was in college I had time time a... : Amadan
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            Yes but these things aren't a problem for me, I really don't know how to explain this - I don't have a pr... : SpaecKow
            • Yeah different strokes for different folks. Personally I like sitting on my ass on my couch with a beer, ... : sigpro
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          Did you just actually prove Gauss's point? If its all relative, then its completely inexcusable for PC G... : soggybagel
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            Uh no, when I say its all relative I'm saying its relative to one's tastes at a point in time. : SpaecKow
            • Yes, and his tastes are fuck the bullshit, why can't it be easy. : soggybagel
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          I don't think you're telling him anything surprising with your clever revelation at the end, I mean his w... : Chris Remo
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            I'm not trying to be clever, Remo, I'm trying to point out that just as his tastes have changed, so there... : SpaecKow
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              I think at this point it is overwhelmingly clear that the number of people whose tastes are served by PC ... : Chris Remo
              • Yes well I'm sorry that consoles don't have mice and keyboards, really I am because I'd buy a 360 tomorro... : SpaecKow
  • The only advances I have seen in the past 8-9 years in PC gaming multiplayer, aside from Steam and battle... : judasen
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  You will not EVER see something as all encompassing as Live! on the PC simply because it isn't an enforce... : Chod
  • atleast gamespy made an attempt to unite all the games into one program. Was it great? fuck no. Could ... : judasen
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  wake me up when a console multiplayer game does 64 player battles with full voice : gyokuro
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    if MS ever ponies up and offers DEDICATED servers (where the fuck is that annual fee going anyway) this c... : kill9
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      i think MS should though. I mean it would really be cool and shouldn't cost them too much. : gyokuro
      • I think they are doing dedicated servers for that game developed by the guys who made the Desert Combat m... : aeg1x
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    lol right...because 64 player voice is what we all want. 2 fucktards are enough, never mind 64. : judasen
    • wait...lemme guess....there are no fucktard PC gamers right? : judasen
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      ever play a little game called BF2? you break off into squads and only your squad mates can hear you. You... : gyokuro
      • I recall having to play MP games where there was no such thing as voice needed to be included. When it w... : judasen
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    64 players with full voice? Thats alot of assholes to listen to : broly1718
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      except not. this guy's original post is saying how bad PC multiplayer is. I'm just showing him an example... : gyokuro
      • But having 64 players on voice isn't part of his complaint. He originally stated in the OT that he mutes... : judasen
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  I completely agree with every word you just said. People will tell you "if you dont like blah blah 24/7 s... : Jackass1233
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    what is stopping you from making your own server and paying the bandwidth costs? If someone forks over th... : gyokuro
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      I didnt say it was the companies fault. I said the game was ruined FOR ME by the low grav insta gib bonan... : Jackass1233
      • I can understand not liking that crap, but what is the alternative short of preventing anyone from runnin... : mathyou
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  From a technical standpoint I much prefer server-client models to peer-to-peer matchmaking for FPS games.... : Vorlonesque
  • I actually agree with this in terms of 'FFS I KNIFED THAT GUY'. At least in the case of COD4, the brillia... : Gauss
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  You're on the money with RTS games. My Company of Heroes experience with friends was: 15 minutes wai... : Bonestormm
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    nothing on live is going to prevent the RTS problem of people dropping after 5 minutes : kill9
    • I'm not actually comparing it to the Xbox Live experience. I'm just saying that my last foray into RTS o... : Bonestormm
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      Well first off, RTS's have no place on consoles, its just godamn impossible to control them. Why cant the... : Jackass1233
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        Well he's talking about a custom game, not a ranked game. People still dropped out of ranked games but th... : aeg1x
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          and CoH is quite popular online so I'm not too sure what you're talking about :P : aeg1x
          • I rarely saw more than 1000 people playing CoH, are you sure were talking about the same game? If that... : Jackass1233
  • my #1 complaint about CoH is they still do not have automatching for arranged team games. That shit is ju... : aeg1x
• It's the Angry Computer Game Nerd! Do agree on major points. A+ would read again. : RevRaven
• I honestly prefer playing PC games on dedicated servers which can handle more people. Xbox live is great ... : pyide
• ive never had a problem playing games multi on pc. ever. only game i play now is tf2...in the past it w... : papaskot
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  Wow. Microsoft, your target 360 audience has finally shown up. Now do us all a favor and sell your compu... : silentw
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    oh no someone prefers Live! to PC gaming : FrayLo
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      Why do people keep putting an exclamation point after it :( : Chris Remo
      • it's very enthusiastic! : Gauss
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        I wonder this too: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/ it just says XBOX LIVE I don't understand :( : mikecyb
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          wasn't it originally marketed as Live! (?) I'd swear I remember seeing that everywhere : Gauss
          • not that I remember, though to be honest I didn't own an xbox so I never paid attention much :( : mikecyb
          • yeah me too, I still sometimes type the ! : derelict515
      • Sound Blaster Live! owners at one point, I bet. : Orange Pylon
      • i was excited : FrayLo
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      I don't care that much that he prefers Live, I'd just prefer that he keep it to himself. : silentw
      • Surely you couldn't possibly expect someone to conform to that preference, I mean this is the internet. ... : Chris Remo
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        none of us share opinions on this board EVER. : FrayLo
        • Not if it can change PC gaming, that's for damn sure! : Orange Pylon
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        maybe it's you who should get off the internet : derelict515
        • i was thinking that too : Jackass1233
      • This is a forum, intended for discussion. (!) : Magus
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        i'd prefer you keep your opinion of you preferring he keep his opinion to himself to yourself. : erotic sock
        • LOL. : PlanetPerfecto
      • maybe you should live up to your name? : VegasX
  • mstr cheef pwns ur nub ass lulz : Gauss
  • is this a serious post? hahahahaha : Jackass1233
• iawtp : Magus
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  Sorry, but I'll take dedicated customizable servers over the "oh my I can spend a minute less connecting!... : Autocrawler
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    I'll just have to add that matchmaking with no control over the gametype or map doesn't really excite me ... : Autocrawler
    • prob there is control over the gametype and map in matchmaking. : paravis
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    Did you mean: Sorry, but I'll take dedicated customizable servers each with maps and wav files I don't ha : paravis
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      It never happened to me, I understand your sarcasm, but, see, that is extreme exaggeration you did there,... : Autocrawler
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        To add an extra bit to this, a friend of mine who bought TF2 on the 360 against my recommendations is now... : Autocrawler
        • not really an example that can be applied to this at all. : paravis
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        I'd say you exagerrated as well. You're saying you never tried to join a server to get "server is full"?... : paravis
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          No, I have, but that's not a problem since having a full server equates to merely having to wait an extra... : Autocrawler
          • No it's not the same. The live network and games are designed for p2p hosting. PC games are designed to... : paravis
          • and I'm talking about the browsers packaged with those games. They were all pretty bad, and I don't know... : paravis
          • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=49513#itemanchor_15370163 : paravis
• Live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : moshman
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  It's a trade-off. Live is a lot more simple, that's definitely true. On the other hand, you don't have ne... : peanut-
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    I agree with most, but the options and control available to you on the PC side, isn't much better. Sure y... : paravis
    • I would be happy with just a bit more control over who I connect to. If I could specify "Western Europe o... : peanut-
• Sadly, IAWTP : nodebug
• INTERNETS : OrkO
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  Steam > Live! : [7]kami
  • lol, no : moshman
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    I disagree but I can definitely see it heading that direction with the portals achievements and friends a... : boomstickah
    • The only thing it needs is a bit of matchmaking for groups of players (which they're rumoured to be worki... : aeg1x
• He says Fuck monthly fees, and complains about DRM, and in-game advertising. All of that is in Live! GG y... : Slowtreme
• Battle.net was amazing but you have to realize that you cannot make such a setup for FPS games without ma... : Ravenkettle

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  rofl wtf : AlexXdude
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    hahahah "Olivia, can you show us your feet?" lol. : AlexXdude
    • lol that was hillarious : MoreVespeneGas
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  wow who are these girls? they're hot : FrayLo
  • also, i feel like i'm watching a show for mentally retarded people. oh wait i just got to the foot fetis... : FrayLo
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    extremely hot. : Phil
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      so do these girls ever get naked or what : FrayLo
      • no :( what a waste of time : AlexXdude
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        hahah : Phil
        • i was waiting for them to go all GGW on each other : FrayLo
• i challenge you to mortal kombat for munn : MoreVespeneGas
• Kevin P is reading this and laughing while he pets his Olivia Munn hairdoll. : soggybagel
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  I watch attack of the show daily. It's actually a good show. Everything you jamokes talk about here the... : judasen
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    yeah i have to agree, its still pretty good. it has its stupid moments too, just like the shack! : kill9
    • I find it really funny when shackers bash the show. It 's pretty much what Evening Reading would be if i... : Prozium
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  G4 is a sad sad channel. : mavmavv
  • Take it back! Sasuke is on that channel - and that is programming from the gods!! : flagg209
• You're a lot more emo then i pictured you. : boredguy
• 'gonk' sounds a bit like vissi there. if vissi had a speech coach. haha : pyide
• This is fucking awesome. : Rice-Rocketeer
• hahahaha. : ant_hillbilly
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  this is pretty much the worst thing I have ever seen. how can two hot chicks talking about sex be so god... : mikecyb
  • 12 year old boys a bunch of shackers : moshman
  • mikey, you're cracking me up now. haha, oh man. I need to go to bed. : Bean
  • I bet Immy probably named the segment. : Prozium
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    Yeah, it was cringingly unbearable. I closed the window after about 30 seconds. : Chris Remo
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      you are my personal mr. glass :D : boomstickah
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        Is that some kind of crazy sex thing? : Chris Remo
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          Ever seen unbreakable? : boomstickah
          • Yeah, I don't really remember anything about it though. However: lol shamalamadingdong : Chris Remo
  • so right : boring gegtik
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  Why is this on a gaming channel? Anthony Rogers is a furry? I need help with what I just saw. I need som... : ArB
  • help. : ArB
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  Fucking G4 : tomservo
  • this has been around since AT LEAST April? jesus mighty fuck : tomservo
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  hahahahaha women from Los Angeles : mr.sleepy
  • Sir you are a master of words : tomservo
• I called Olivia Munn when she was doing one of those web broadcast shows at Kevin P's house. : TreMetal
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  "MEN ASSOCIATE FEET WITH THEIR MOMS BUT NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS WHY MEN HAVE FOOT FETISHES" How did th... : mr.sleepy
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    she has an incredibly good looking brain, you should see the scans! : radula
    • If you gave that hoe a cat scan it'd break the machine from all the bullshit once it got to her brain : mr.sleepy
  • It's true. My mom has feet. : Fred Garvin
• so thats whats up : Slowtreme
• O_O bwahahahaha!!! : g0nk
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  Their producer is a furry? Well that explains how god damn lame they are. : SpaecKow
  • lol : Phil

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• how do you propose the OS stop a 3rd party application from crashing? : derelict515
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  I blame the users. : chazums
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    yeah right - owned the machine for less than a month and it's as buggy as a fucking windows machine. tech... : mr.sleepy
    • Is the OS crashing as well? You might have a hardware problem. The only Mac I've ever had that had crashi... : RatBastard
• OS X is racist. : vigilante
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  they don't take the OS with it in OSX though. : CoRDS
  • That's about the same as Vista, seriously. : Autocrawler
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    I haven't had that happen in Vista either. XP and 2000 crashed and burned spectacularly at times, though. : nomaad
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      true, but OSX has provided that feature for awhile where as Vista only recently came out. Moreover, there... : derelict515
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        Firefox has crashed completely at least a dozen times on my brand new macbook. My desktop has disappeared... : mr.sleepy
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          1) Stop using Firefox. 2) Files disappearing is abnormal. Take it back and tell them to fix it. : vigilante
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            what should i use instead of firefox i thought firefox was the big bad ass browser to end all browsers : mr.sleepy
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              Try Opera, it's better in some regards or so I hear. I'm using Firefox myself though just out of habit. : Autocrawler
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                opera was like a really basic/simple version of firefox it seemed (for the 45 seconds i used it) , it doe... : mr.sleepy
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                  safari is severely inferior to firefox, but firefox will crash in osx. you take the good with the bad eit... : laurgasms
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                    I find Firefox is totally stable on the Mac as long as you keep it down to about 5 or 6 tabs most of the ... : peanut-
                    • Mine just shits out randomly, I show it to hawkeye hoping for some sort of rational explanation and all I... : laurgasms
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              Safari : vigilante
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                where can i get safari : mr.sleepy
                • \Applications\Safari (It comes with the Mac) : BlackCat9
                • cmd+space : vigilante
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                Specifically, the Safari 3 beta : Balboa
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                  That's silly. No point in using a beta now when the final will be out in a week. : BlackCat9
                  • What on earth are you talking about? It's not large, it's better than previous versions, and it doesn't p... : Balboa
            • Firefox on the Mac is way behind in stability, but that's Mozilla's fault, not Apple's. Mozilla just does... : BlackCat9
          • the files/folders disappearing sounds like a sign of a drive that wasn't properly unmounted. i get the sa... : j0nchan
      • There are no performance issues with games under Vista. PC gaming is pretty much all the gaming I do late... : Autocrawler
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        i have managed to bsod vista many many times : CoRDS
        • Really? Sure its not a hardware issue, what were you doing at the time? : nodebug
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          Find better drivers/hardware then. Or go use a platform that only has 5 hardware configurations. You can ... : nudel
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            its a system that has been stable on xp (omg wtf) for a while. all the drivers are good and stable. it ju... : CoRDS
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              3 of the 4 or so times were in media center : CoRDS
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                Turns out all my BSODing was caused by ntune, Nvidia's monitoring software. Most games would crash after ... : festivalman
                • ive got an ati x800 . i have never bsodd xp with that box. only vista : CoRDS
        • Wow, I haven't seen a BSOD in years. : Fred Garvin
      • I've been using a Mac for about three or four months and I've had the OS crash twice. Once, Google Earth ... : BlackCat9
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        WTF are you talking about? OS X didn't invent memory protection, crash handlers or anything else. Abou... : nudel
        • Microsoft's big thing with vista was that drivers aren't supposed to bsod you anymore. They're supposed t... : festivalman
• ahahahahahahahahaah : boomstickah
• picnic : nodebug
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  weird, i've never had a program crash in OSX.. Firefox acts wonky here and there, and I restart it, but ... : g0nk
  • firefox sometimes does this thing where it goes "always on top" which is a pain in the ass.. it even Z-or... : boring gegtik