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  Keep playing until you meet the marines. After that it drones on and on. : Haku-Jin
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    then you get to the levels that make The Library seem totally briliant. : vigilante
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      Nothing makes the library seem brilliant. Except maybe the last half of Unreal. : ( : Haku-Jin
      • Unreal never stopped being great :( (well except in Unreal 2...) : razorblade79
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    the marines are some of the most challenging and entertaining enemies i've ever played in any game. shame... : gokart.
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      Valve's pimping the Hunters in Episode 2 out as having the cleverness of those marines, so we'll see. : sgtsanity
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        i really hope so, the downgrade was a wee bit disappointing to say the least. : gokart.
        • Yup my only real complaint about HL2. : Haku-Jin
      • Why not just make the combine goons act like that? : Finestaut
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      are you sure you're not misremembering the awesomeness of the marine's AI? : thaperfectdrug
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        They were some of the first enemy AI to actually run from you. : Sailor of Fortune
        • they were awesome at the time : thaperfectdrug
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  You have to get out of the train station. : tomservo
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    Are you talking about HL2, because I'm playing HL1. : angrytaxman
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      oh haha I dont read gud. Shit hits the fan when you come in contact with the Marines. On A Rail is one of... : tomservo
      • surface tension was pretty awesome too, and of course on a rail is pretty much by fav too. : barichnikov
• it was only fun if you played it when it first came out. and its still fun for those who did but i wouldn... : mindshot
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  BTW I'm on the level called "Office Complex". Oh and also the save game system blows all of the game save... : angrytaxman
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    You're close to the awesome. I think the next section is it. It's been a while, though. : ConfusedUs
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      Alright I'll keep wading through this then, and hope for the best. : angrytaxman
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        To tell you the truth, Office was my absolute least favorite part of the game. Surface Tension (you're cl... : ConfusedUs
        • Ok cool thanks :) : angrytaxman
        • Yeah, Surface Tension is where the insane awesome pew-pew starts. : Ride-My-Rocket
        • office complex is pretty damn far frome surface tension. but we've got hostile is when the shit kicks in ... : barichnikov
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  holy shit this is like a kid born in 1996 complaining that a book doesnt have any audio or graphics. i ha... : not work safe
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    Dude, I don't mind the graphics one bit. I've been playing PC games since before Wolf3D came out (but tha... : angrytaxman
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      i swear to god, its like every page there are more words. its like a huge instruction manual but without : not work safe
      • oh wait there is DM : not work safe
      • Ahahahhahaha that's what I'm hearing from this post too. : Damodred
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        hey HLDM was really fucking awesome. : barichnikov
        • Strangely enough it had a Quake1 like skill curve. Anyone who didn't know what they were doing were goin... : kingdepork
• its a 1990s game cut it some slack : gyokuro
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  I don't find half-life to be the brilliant masterpiece everyone else seems to think it is. I had fun with... : haiku
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    See yesterday I said that I wanted to play through HL2 and asked if I should play HL1 first, and I was gi... : angrytaxman
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      I agree with that. Playing HL1 first is a great idea. However, feel free to cheat the fuck out of the... : ConfusedUs
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        Just skip Xen. pretend it never happened. : Slowtreme
        • well you want the conclusion anyway, so cheat through them is the correct answer. : barichnikov
      • That's the only way I can beat the game, unfortunately. I get too frustrated otherwise. The game is quite... : K1Bond007
    • I think it is unnecessary. You could go read up the general plot line and significant story pieces of HL1... : haiku
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    Half-Life, at the time it came out, really kicked the shit out of everything else at the time. I mean Si... : midgetherder
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      Just because it was at the right place at the right time doesn't cement it's legacy in gaming in terms of... : haiku
      • ahhhh yes, mired down in the subjective hell of 'what constitutes innovation'... it definitely is rough t : Downforce
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        What FPS came out after HL1 that remotely tied everything together as well as HL1 did? You say everyone ... : AndyGoin
        • I would say AVP came close, but ofcourse is different because of the 3 campaigns. : thewindcriesmary
      • They raised the bar though. Daikatana wouldn't have been viewed in the same light had HL1 not done what ... : midgetherder
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    I'm looking forward to OK Computer :< : aeg1x
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      I dont think valve is capable of making a totally unfinished and uninspired mess of vulgar pointless abst... : not work safe
      • I like these Radiohead analogies. : freshyk
      • Oh shit, you didn't just go there. That said, most of HL2 felt like exactly that to me. : Vincent Grayson
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    I find Half-Life 2's presentation and execution to be very well done. But the gameplay is definitely lack... : Modica Sol Solis
    • Yeah, it didn't really work for me either, but now that I've bought the Orange Box, I'm thinking I might ... : Silent Sorrow
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    Did you play Half-Life when it released? You probably did, but I find a lot of similar criticisms come f... : EvilDolemite
    • I played it right on release actually. I believe I read about it going gold on this site, and then I went... : haiku
  • I'd actually like to see Valve commandeer Black Mesa Source and put the polish to it with good voice acti... : K1Bond007
  • Not sure I agree about Half-Life 1, but definitely about HL2. They just showed their potential with HL1 i... : Magus
  • Once again, you are spot on. : Ebu
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    yah i actually quite playing shortly after getting to the marines section.. i just got bored with it. ... : Shadowdane
    • I quit HL1 at the tentacle boss (the sound thing) : Ebu
    • I quit HL in the train station : boomstickah
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      I started installing it and cancelled halfway through : Maarten Goldstein
      • A friend of mine almost bought it...but put it back on the shelf. :( : Ebu
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        I almost finished reading your post : dognose
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          I almost fini : devi| dog
          • We call that premature ejaculation. : Magus
        • i almo : Mr.SEX
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          I almost browsed to http://www.shacknews.com/ : SiW73
          • : aeg1x
    • xen :( : gokart.
    • I quit Half-Life 1 when Half-Life 2 came out; screw you guys. ): : Magus
  • How can you even call Pablo Honey good enough? That album is utter shit. And HL1 is completely awesome. : NastyJack
  • Marines section::Anyone Can Play Guitar jesus christ they know what i'm doing : Deathlove
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    I think this is just another opinion thread, because I have almost the exact opposite opinion of the game... : dkrulz
    • IAWTP wholeheartedly. Haven't managed to work up the desire to get farther than 1/3 of the way through H... : Zero|DPX
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      feel the exact same. HL2 just got boring. : xsii
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        What? : dognose
        • I'm with him. Lack of variety in enemies, maddening linearity, and a fairly mediocre selection of weap... : Vincent Grayson
    • I can actually see this argument more than haiku's argument because while I think Half-Life 2 is great, i... : mikecyb
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  Keep in mind it's 1998. : EvilDolemite
  • It's still better than most shooters. : GeorgeB3DR
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  Half-Life 1 was revolutionary for things that are now standard. Mostly the scripting. Now many games (WW2... : lord cecil
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    ^^^ man has a point about the scripting. It was 100% new at the time. : Damodred
    • Wasn't 100% new... I mean Quake 2 had some very, very basic scripted sequences. And SiN, which came ou... : DOOManiac
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    Half-Life also started the push in AI... remember before it we had stuff like Unreal or Quake 2 where the : mikecyb
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      Good call on the AI. It was revolutionary at the time. It's not as good as you remember though. =P The... : lord cecil
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        oh no I'm not saying the HL AI is good by today's standards. At the time it was amazing though. I mean ... : mikecyb
        • That was my point earlier. If it's not a puzzle game it's going to feel dated after 8-9 years. HL1 was ... : midgetherder
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      when something is scripted, AI has nothing to do with it. : paravis
      • well it was scripted as in the maps had waypoints where enemies would go when they had low health and the... : mikecyb
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      well, I'd argue that AI, at least as it exists in games, is ALL scripted... if/then/else if/then/else... : Toraz Chryx
      • I found the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion Lost and NOLF2 AIs way advanced. In fact those two games have the bes... : omontero
  • The laser trip mines and laser-guided rockets pretty much made HL1 MP about the most fun thing ever. : riptyde
• The story - you're soaking in it. : Porkasaurus
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  Here's the thing about Half Life (for me) and why it was so good, even today when measured against not on... : AndyGoin
  • I'm such a half-life nut that I enjoyed Xen even. The game just builds and builds and builds and builds ... : wunderbred
  • Hopefully this will get completed at some point in time - http://www.blackmesasource.com/ : Shadowdane
• There is not much of a story in Half-Life. Just read a couple of fansites to understand what's going on. ... : Pettytheft
• Err, you do realize this was made in 1998 right? Don't expect a ton of dialogue, model variation, or ect ... : locater16
• This is why my kids are going to need to graduate into newer games. - You can't play the new Zelda 201... : liqker
• I had that same feeling when way back when it came out. I got a good way through it and finally said fuc... : capt tripps
• It's more atmosphere than story, something that continues in HL2. I mean, story-wise, it's "Experiment g... : SiW73
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  lol. and I thought my "I am finally playing Half Life" threads 10 months ago were really late. Thanks for... : p4ck3tloss
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    PS - wasn't the spider boss on xen? that had to be the best part about the end. I will agree with everyon... : p4ck3tloss
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      Nobody liked Xen. : DOOManiac
      • I did :) : Chepito.
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        I thought Xen was okay. It really made an impression on me when I was playing it for the first time : Izanaki
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          My impression was just keyboard marks on my face. : Slowtreme
          • lol : [7]kami
• You gotta get to the test chamber first bro : phobium
• I thought it was boring when it came out but it had it's moments. I loved the feeling in areas of those "... : razorblade79
• try reading OP but without the word "Half" : dael
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  what ever happened to black mesa source? : stgdz
  • They took on way too much, multiplayer too I think. It'll probably still be awhile. : midgetherder
  • Still in development. Estimated release is sometime in 2008. : Chepito.
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  You need to subtract 9 years for Half Life to be interesting. : Senor PoopyPants
  • 9 years is more that half. you'd have nothing left : Slowtreme
• rar : Chepito.

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  I dont think I could go out with someone who smokes. : scottythejock
  • I didn't either! I didn't find out for a while, she was really sneaky about it... sort of ashamed. By... : the city
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    Yeah, I thought that, but a lot of them are smoking hot. : node
    • buh dum pshh : Chris Remo
    • Should I try the fish? : rock elf
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      You should be ashamed of yourself. : chazums
      • Probably a burned child : razorblade79
  • Same. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  People exaggerate the cancer risk, the odd cig when you're out partying isn't so bad. A chest X-ray is eq... : jcupitt
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    Isn't it highly addictive though? Such that giving in to the temptation of an odd cigg when I'm out part... : the city
    • Smoking is addicitve. So is alchohol. And weed. And World of Warcraft. Just enjoy yourself but watch t... : [7]kami
    • Addiction also depends on the person, nothing affects the everyone in the exact same way. : action wombmate
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      Yep, a majority of the smokers I know became addicted after they started with the "odd cig when you're pa... : Bold
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        See, this is what I'd be afraid of. I enjoyed it... but I don't want to be deep in it =x : the city
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          I'm 26 and started 6 months ago this way. I started at bars, now I'm a pack a day. It's pretty meh at ... : kingdepork
          • That's what makes it so bad, once you're smoking regularly the "pleasure" is gone and you just need anoth... : daedraug
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        Same here. I fucking hate it too, it's such a stupid reason to get addicted to something that will poten... : Chris Remo
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          I know what you mean. I'm generally a very tolerant person, but I can't help but look down upon smokers a... : rock elf
          • good thing cigarettes will work as stupid tags, huh? : RikiTiki2
          • Heh, like it's a rational decision? It is stupid, but simplifying it like that is just arrogant. Never do... : daedraug
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        I've had the odd cig when partying for about a year now. I have no desire to have one while not partying.... : nomaad
        • same... 2 years though : dael
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          My impression is that there's often a slow progression in what constitutes "partying". That is, a person ... : Bold
          • well I've seen people who quit get back into their full habit this way. I try to warn em but they don't w... : steelsamurai
      • Uch.. social smoking is easy.. you just need to make sure you don't have any cigarettes lying around at h... : bamb
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      about as bad as heroin, I read somewhere (nfi if that's true). I'm lucky, I can smoke 3 or 4 in a nigh... : jcupitt
      • One of my friends had her mother die this year of lung cancer at 52 years old, from smoking. She was also... : steelsamurai
    • I remember smoking a pack in high school (not in one sitting obviously) because I wanted to find out what... : Evil Benius
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    A friend of mine lives in french and smokes. His doctor told him he'll be fine if he quits by 30. But the... : node
    • I had dinner with a bunch of people from France once. After every course, the whole lot of them lit up ci... : steelsamurai
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  Seriously, and I say this as a smoker, there is nothing good about cigarettes. I need one to feel relaxed... : daedraug
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    Yeah. I guess it's tough given nobody can just quit for someone else, as much as I wish my girlfriend wo : the city
    • Quitting is hard :/ I went one month without once, and at that point it wasn't too bad, so I'm pretty sur... : daedraug
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      I quit for the last girl I was dating and had no problem doing so. What sucks is that I started again aft... : ColoradoCNC
      • How frequently did you smoke at the time? : the city
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    When you say you need one to feel relaxed, is that just because you are a smoker? If you had never smoked... : rock elf
    • Oh absolutely just because I'm a smoker, the body gets used to the nicotine levels and you have to mainta... : daedraug
• I dated a smoker, and it made me a smoker... and then it took me 7 years after we broke up to quit. Do no... : drucifer
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  See, kids, this is why cigars > cigarettes. They smell and taste better, they look cooler, you don't hav... : action wombmate
  • True, but I always want one. LOL Cigars are actually quite nice. Too bad I can't seem to convince an... : MacemanInTW
  • pipes smell good, but cigars smell like burning horse shit. : steelsamurai
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  spoken like a true idiot. : red2lucas
  • What makes me an idiot? I don't intend on starting, I simply said that after having tried it I began to f... : the city
• man worst thing you could ever do in your life is start smoking...i wish i could stop...been smoking for ... : agentlead
• Go down on her while she's smoking. That's hawt. : Master Tonberry

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• I've had some slow down when doing coop when some big explosions and what not are occuring but not super ... : soggybagel
• Had something like that the other night, one of the players left and it got much better after that so it ... : boredguy
• I was playing with a shacker earlier for the first time and it was insane how choppy it was. Definitely n... : Ctrl-Phreak
• If you hit the "-" key it will shrink the screen and that usually improves the framerate for me. : not work safe
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  played coop all of the way through and it was fine : Foxhawk
  • we had a few connection issues if thats what he is talking about but nothing to major : Umbr
• i had some weird sound lag yesterday playing single player. about a 2 second delay for a while. then it s... : CoRDS
• I had this last night. No one knew then either. : geedeck
• hmm.. I haven't seen any framerate choppiness at all in Co-op. Granted I haven't played much more tha... : Shadowdane
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  Have one of the other players in your group host? : playerhater
  • party leader isnt always the host. the game decides who has the best connection and that person hosts. : maulla
• had issues once, but fine ever since. it seemed for us that only the person who hosted the game had the l... : maulla
• It's cropped up a few times but it usually resolves itself. : omnova
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  Time for a new videocard......oh wait. : phil_mckraken
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    Maybe they should have rendered it out in 320p. : capt tripps
    • you can barely tell the difference between 320p and 640p go count some toenails : aeg1x
    • Option for no shadows would be enough. : Mondo
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    yeah PC's *never* have issues : VegasX
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      if you're releasing on a console you have zero excuse it's a closed system. At least on a PC you can say ... : boring gegtik
      • upgrade your DSL! : Shadowdane
• Is it all the time? We had some severe lag come up a couple times in a 3 player co-op session the other ... : stump
• I had that last night. The guy I was playing with was uploading something on his computer, and when he s... : doctorbfunk
• 0 trouble for me. : locater16
• It can be really sensitive to network traffic. One person had his computer set to do a remote backup whil... : BlackCat9
• I had this happen with 2 people in co-op, I was the party leader and my buddy didn't have any slow down. ... : nomaad
• yep. had about 3 people on live and there were times (i can't remember when, may have been the later leve... : erotic sock
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  I'm having trouble finding out exactly where Halo 3 SP is good at all...they really dropped the ball with... : Baby Batter
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    Well, for a start, the scarab battles are AAA+++ AWESOMETASTIC : Toraz Chryx
    • Actually I found the first one a total cock the first time through. : chazums
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      ^^^ downing that first scarab on heroic was one of THE most satisfying moments i've ever had in a game. i... : erotic sock
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        i actually did that battle the hard way..... i went up the elevator on the crane to jump down on the bast : -=kodiak=-
        • That's the hard way? I thought that was the easy way???? : Toraz Chryx
  • Really work on your trolling. : carazy
• MP gets choppy at times. : metalremains
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  yeah 2 things, wireless networks don't play nice with co-op i've found, also make sure everyone's nat is ... : Silent Wolf
  • <shrug> 2 of our guys (including myself) are using wireless networking, no problems. Having NAT open ... : sevogajre
• I haven't had any problems. I've only played 2 player coop though. : Rauol Duke
• haven't had any problems so far. : jonin
• Most likely a connection problem. I've played online coop with 4 of my buds in northern Indiana, and the... : sevogajre

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  Trying to think of other movies I really liked that made me feel horrible. I recall leaving the theatre ... : dognose
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    KIDS did that to me : EvilDolemite
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      same here. ugh : feek
      • also: hotel rwanda : feek
    • Me too but I didn't like that movie. : dognose
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      cries and whispers di that to me. for a week i wanted to kill myself. : barichnikov
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        I think I was not glad I saw Hostel. : dognose
        • hmm... cries and whispers can'T be on the same level as hostel lol... : barichnikov
  • absolutely. Somehow I enjoyed myself, but it is hard to recommend to just anybody. : byorn
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    requiem for a dream does that for me. : captain hampton
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      Haven't seen that and have read enough here and at IMDb that I don't want to. : dognose
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        It really is soul destroying. Brilliant movie though. : thewriter
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          Yeah, I cought this movie at a special engagement at the Dobie Mall in Austin. I was tripping acid at ... : fleabug
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            Ug, I couldn't imagine watching a non-disney-cartoon movie on acid. I tried watching the South Park movi... : dognose
            • I had no clue what it was actually about. And I just couldn't walk out ya know? I just fucking HAD to f... : fleabug
  • Shrek2 made me want to jump in front of a bus about 5 minutes into it. : Old_Fart
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    Irreversible : spectr3
    • Oh Christ, I could barely stomach the club scene so I doubt the rape scene would be up my alley. : thewriter
  • 21 Grams. Ugh. : tomservo
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    wow, brazil wasn't something I'd expect you to like! : p4ck3tloss
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      Why not? It's good, isn't it? : dognose
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        Are you baiting me dognose? : soggybagel
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          What? No, Brazil is actually good :( : dognose
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            But.. but... there's a story in it.... : -efx-
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              why am I replying to 3 different people for one conversation :( : dognose
              • I'm just giving you crap! Don't mind me :) : -efx-
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    Audition : bipolar
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      Only Miike I've ever seen and am now too terrified to watch another. Most repulsive movie I've seen with... : dognose
      • Exactly. I was surprised at how little blood there is in it, compared to how I remembered it. There's t... : bipolar
  • Agreed. I wanted to quit my job and/or kill myself. : Albemuth
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  That's an SNL clip, sir. : creeping-judas
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    hahaha. wow. Here is the RIGHT clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJU_nBZh1M : byorn
    • Oh, whoa, that looks amazing. I'm going to have to check it out ASAP. : CrustaR
• I need to watch that again, I love it. : opengl128
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  Who's the other singer? Why did people cheer? : Chris Remo
  • looks a bit like steve : pyide
  • Adam Levine from Maroon 5 : dltrem
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    Maroon 5 guy I think, dunno really. Who was the musical guest for the week? Still amazed they got Gyl : Lunatic Angelic
    • Haha, you can't let that go can you? : soggybagel
    • Haha that cameo was the best part : nomaad
• I really need to buy that movie. : Kaerof
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  Is it just me or does it sound like they hacked up the Aphex Twin song Avril 14th? : dopeman
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    seriously this pisses me off : dopeman
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJTQ1lBgH0s One of my favorite songs :( : dopeman
      • Oh for crying out loud, you big baby. : lightly inclined
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        are you serious right now? Cause if you are, thats extreme music snobbery. : mastarp
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          I'm not saying that it's untouchable, I'm just saying they did a horrible job and butchered an otherwise ... : dopeman
          • All comedians are failed musicians : spiderfill
• I love that movie <3 : L0opet
• love Brazil. One of my favorites. : Fredrik S

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• hi baby batter, hows ur trolling 2day : scottythejock
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  it doesn't exactly glorify the military or america. like with the commanding officer who's plane has stee... : cygnus
  • I think it glorified the men forced to do unimaginable things under unbelievable circumstances like storm... : raspu2n
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    "if there is a reason to have a movie w/ "patriotic garbage", this is the period to do it in" lol? (if... : Hoax
    • I think he meant the setting of the movie and not the current time period. : Evil Benius
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      I would think that of all our wars over the last 200 years, WWII was one of the few you could look to and... : riptyde
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        yeah i'm not going to question the cause of the war but the glorification of the flawless heroism of amer... : Hoax
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          Yeah it was very heroic of the Germans to stuff innocent men women and children in to ovens.... : raspu2n
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            Yeah it was very heroic of the Germans to allegedly stuff innocent men women and children in to ovens...... : skitzo
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              Your name fits perfectly. : raspu2n
              • I watch a lot of court TV. :( : skitzo
            • allegedly? : jcupitt
            • lololol OJ : kingdepork
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              Hey Ahmadinejad, how did you enjoy NYC : boring gegtik
              • It was alright until I met this one dude named Ed Relic, he kept trying to touch me :( : skitzo
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            The holocaust and WW2 are 2 separate issues. Even Spielberg believes this, according to the extras on th... : treefingers1
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              yep thats what i'm talking about. dipshits often fail to differ between those two. the all germans are n... : Hoax
              • countertroll not to mention that the germans had at least the courtesy to kill them before they burned t... : Hoax
• Spielberg was a producer only, he didn't direct a single episode of Band of Brothers (although Hanks did)... : action wombmate
• Jesus christ, BoB is incredible, theres no question of buying it or not, you just have to own it. Worth e... : niceguynick
• omg lyk totally. : kingdepork
• Here fishies, fishies, fishies!!!! : Drewus
• Please don't watch it and come complaining here. Seriously. : nomaad
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  naw, man, it sucks. Get Fresh Prince on DVD instead. : yoonix
  • This man knows what is up : asylumn
  • I'm pretty sure Fresh Prince is patriotic garbage also : spiderfill
• you! Back under your bridge! : Fyunch Click
• silly baby. BoB is awesome and some more. : xsii
• Patriotic garbage? Did we see the same movie? : RikiTiki2
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  Gotta love new users. : Nitrium
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    Gotta love new banned users Fixed. : redfive
    • Thanks! : Nitrium
• strike one toddler. Buy it, watch it all then come back. : chazums
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  I have a friend IRL who uses the name BabyBatter online but he isn't as retarded as you : Patch-e
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    You should have your buddy change it. Just like the name Lucas, you will be assumed retarded. : kingdepork
    • * J U S T Y C E ' D : Jumperus
• don't let tomservo see this thread he'll be one sad panda : PapaBoo
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  If you were going to attack spielberg you shoulda went with the craptacular Minority Report rather than S... : skitzo
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    They are both rather crappy films though :-( MR looks nice (I really liked the washed out blue color they... : jcupitt
    • What is crappy about the dialog in SPR? : h o s t i l e
• Sounds like a nursery rhyme...can anyone finish this? Little bitter baby batter... : thaperfectdrug
• Oh, it's definitely not. You're much better off with Spice World. : CrustaR

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  changes - http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=news&id=1232&cc=NL : Maarten Goldstein
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    Notably, Added "Very High" texture resolution option aka. the mipmap -1 hack that was floating around? : sgtsanity
    • not a hack, it was just under the sv_cheat lock : Slowtreme
    • I didn't think this game could look any better. I guess I was wrong. : Bonestormm
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      Yes, this sets mat_picmip to -1 but you can manually set it to the -3 which I think is the highest textur... : vynn
      • That's cause there is none. : Pink0r
      • There is definitely a difference between -3 and -1. On my system -1 doesn't look much better than defaul... : mrwolf710
    • Wow, they are fast to respond. : enyakk
  • kewl : Downforce
• Bleh I just posted the same thing hah. Oh well i'm sure the servers will get updated soon. : ovrlrd
• shit, I just got updated and there aren't many servers running the new patch : sroylance
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  minimal hud... awesome. I hope it removes that huge CAPTURE THE ENEMY POINT LOLOLOL thing in the middle o... : aeg1x
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    Minimal HUD will be nice. : dmason
    • I just checked it out, basically it makes everything smaller and squishes it closer to the edges. I like ... : aeg1x
  • It doesn't remove the giant thing in the middle of the screen. So irritating to start a match and see th... : mrwolf710
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  i dont know if it was always there, or if it was a server setting, but I just saw it tells how many of ea... : SolveChrist
  • That sounds new, I always had to check by pressing tab. : moogle
• Is this why I was ghosting and stuttering all over the place tonight? Ever since Valve started patching t... : Silent Sorrow
• moron has been updated : devnullgt
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  lol @ "Fixed server crash related to Spy sappers" : DooBall
  • lol : feek
  • Someone is sapping my server! : rosewood
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  Hirez you update west? : hashd
  • Fixed player interpolation bug that caused jittery player animation in some cases Hopefully this will ... : gnomish
• Hey... anyone know much about the "bloom" option? : Johnny Law
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  they need to fix the new exploit people are using on pubs =( basically you can lock open the other teams... : grandmasterlee
  • What? That's really lame. : ConfusedUs
  • Ya, I was on a sever and some dude was keeping the door open, and blocking it at the same time. We couldn... : Scoots06
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  bleh, they had to update it the day I decide to buy it. Now its taking so long to download I probably won... : re4ctor
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    That's punishment for waiting this long. :( : freshyk
    • I didn't think I'd like it after what I thought of the first one, but I played it at a friends the other ... : re4ctor
• IM GOING IN! : Phil
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  that new texture setting rocks! Calendar Girls here i cum *fap* *fap* : gyokuro
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    this is where they pull a Mario 64 and the highest level mipmap for the pinups is actually a sweaty body ... : Omaha
    • hahaha : gyokuro
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  TF2 Patch Thoughts - The "Very High" texture setting is utterly badass. TF2 looks even more insane th... : Sapiens
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    - There are numbers over the different classes in the class selection screen, so you can see if there are... : Sapiens
    • Best new feature of this patch by far. The texture thing is nice too but being able to see how many of e... : mrwolf710
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    Have you reported the map exploit? : chazums
    • Yep. : Sapiens
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      I'm surprised they haven't put a clipping plane above the trains in well so you can't rocket/double/stick... : Crimsonbeak
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        What's wrong with that? : aeg1x
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          Because eventually you are gonna have a team of 10 guys rocket jump over the wall and dominate the other ... : Crimsonbeak
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            yeah but the other team can do exactly the same thing :D fair's fair. I'd actually like to see a demoman ... : aeg1x
            • always makes me laugh when people are getting sniped during the setup stage of that map.. if you can snip... : cause&effect
      • the clipping plane above the sheds on the C cap point (gravelpit) piss me right off.. i ALWAYS try jumpin... : cause&effect
      • That's intended : Slowtreme
• Screenshots to compare texture resolution please! : nomaad
• i wish theyd patch that annoying bug in the server browser that resets the columns so small you have to m... : steve_o
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  How do I update web? I've restarted steam and the things just sits there without updating. It has work... : zehh
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    Hm, setting it to "never update" and then setting it back to "always keep up to date" did the trick. Weir... : zehh
    • It will update if you try to launch the game as well. : Sapiens

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  Haha, oh lawd.... TF2 : feek
  • Oh, why? Well, I hate playing FPS on consoles. I've tried for hours and hours all together and I just can... : feek
• Why does one always have to be better than the other? Clearly both games are masterworks of the art form... : PenicillinX57
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  TF2. As a hardcore PC gamer, the obvious answer is mouse/kb control but TF2 looks and feels so unique ... : vynn
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    I kinda wish TF2 sound effects were more gritty. : spectr3
    • The sound a crit rocket makes and the ensuing sound of gib splatter makes me hard as rolled steel. Yeeha... : gnomish
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  TF2 looks like cartoons lawlz : Mondo
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    You're right, TF2 needs more of these guys to make it more sophisticated.... http://halosquad.com/halo... : vynn
    • Imagine if you could pick those guys in MP.. I think that's the only way to increase how many times GAY i... : Mondo
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  Well since they will be on both platforms come the 10th why does this matter? : hashd
  • Err not both but TF2 will be anyway my bad............ : hashd
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  It seems like I've played a game like Halo 3 twice before, but I don't think I've ever played a game quit... : Flying h4x0r
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    This is my reasoning. I played Halo 2 multiplayer for months. Halo 3 is just the next iteration of that. : mittense
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      I wonder how lonely the shack CS:S server is feeling right now... : FushigiDenki
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        Is there even a Shack CS:S server now? : freshyk
        • No :( It was the reason I caved in and bought TF2 though, so a blessing in disguise! : TrptJim
      • CS can never die. Time or other games cannot kill CS. : Fish_Bulb
  • WHAT!!???!!!?!?!?!? LOL! : Pettytheft
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    By TF2 you mean Team Fortress 2 right? Just checking cause what the fuck. : vigilante
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      i never got into TFC because i was put off by the grenade spam and didn't have time to master the steep ... : Flying h4x0r
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        At first I agreed with you. But TF2 still feels like the same game with some tweaks. Then again, I played... : Pettytheft
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          I'm confused so much by this post. : mittense
          • This is what happens when you click post before proofreading. : Pettytheft
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          TF2 is VERY much different from TFC and QWTF starting with the removal of grenades for everyone. You als... : AndyGoin
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            I think of Team Fortress 2 in comparison to Team Fortress Classic like I think of Resident Evil 4 compare... : mittense
            • This is the best comparison I've heard. They contain similar elements, but ultimately, they're very diffe... : aaarrrgh
  • lol what? : VegasX
• theyre so different its not even comparable : klearlyunseen
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  TF2 by a landslide. Halo 3 is fun, but very generic. Half of what makes Halo 3 multi so good is the mat... : FushigiDenki
  • "What is generic about Halo's multiplayer, FushigiDenki?" : omnova
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    lol TF2 isnt generic? Take away all of the cute stylish art, and its still the same TF that was released ... : VegasX
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      No, TF2, and it's predecessor, are very unique games. They don't even fall in line with the other "team"... : FushigiDenki
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        I think you're selectively giving more credit to Team Fortress than it deserves over Halo. Team Fortress... : omnova
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          TF2 cannot simply be described in a few sentences and I wouldn't even try. There's a lot to be said about... : vynn
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            and neither can Halo 3 : RikiTiki2
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              Exactly. I hope I didn't insinuate that it was. omnova's description of TF2 is really oversimplified. : vynn
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                Call him a fag. : [7]kami
                • what else can you do? : broly1718
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  Halo 3. I simply like the combat better, and it has a load of multiplayer depth in gameplay and content. ... : Foxhawk
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    i feel the same. tf2 is fairly... simple once you get it : bradsh
    • True, but I can't fucking control anything on that 360 controller, so my online fun basically drops to no... : d0gbert
  • Halo 3 mp has more depth in gameplay than TF2? I haven't played Halo 3 yet, but i did Halo 2... can you ... : hobbespanache
• So far for me, TF2 : rosewood
• Halo 3 no question. Can't get over the cartoony look, and I've played too many TFC like games to really ... : dilutedq
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  They're both fucking awesome, who cares. : Begawkiness
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    Jesus cares. : FushigiDenki
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      Shit, you got me there. I wonder what Jesus likes better, Halo 3 or TF2? : Begawkiness
      • He's on my buddy list, he mostly plays Halo 2. : FushigiDenki
      • TF2. Jesus doesn't believe in aliens. : re4ctor
  • GeorgeB for one. :) I also find it interesting to talk about reasons why someone might prefer one game ... : vynn
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  I haven't played Halo 3 but I think the fact it is so customizable is both a positive and a negative. It'... : aeg1x
  • That's what matchmaking is for and why they provide it in the first place (vs a server browser). To prov... : mitchwalker
• equal to me : locater16
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  ROCKET RACE. oh god, did i just vote for Halo? i feel dirtied... yet, firm. : yAak
  • oh, why: random hectic awesome fun with friends that doesn't require more than the 4 of us. Also, it doe... : yAak
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  Halo 3 via sheer gameplay variety. Team Fortress 2 is ridiculously good at what it does though. It's ... : sevogajre
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    Good point, but TF2 also packs a lot of gameplay variety by having all the distinct classes, one of it's ... : FushigiDenki
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      I'd say classes are a sign of weakness; this goes for all classed based games. Essentially it's trying t : paravis
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        I understand where you're coming from about class-based games forcing players to use teamwork to win, but... : vynn
        • FFA DM will always be an integral part... but games like Enemy Territory usher in that extra semi-forced ... : Downforce
        • Well what I meant to say is you can do all of that in a non-classed shooter just as well. It's the forci... : paravis
      • If everyone in TF2 could pick all the weapons from any class, then the game balance would be screwed up h... : TrptJim
      • Same can be said for a team slayer match, if your team is shit then you're going to lose. Point is, you ... : FushigiDenki
• 3 > 2 : Enigme
• From what i gather @ Halo 3's MP options (and those are not few it seems), this would be something we'd a... : humbleone
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  Slight edge goes to Halo3. Much wider variety in gameplay. If I had never played Team Fortress before I w... : Pettytheft
  • Ugh. 2fort is one of the maps that, I believe, most Shackers try to avoid. : mittense
  • While 2Fort is the same map design, it plays differently with all of the differences in the core game des... : vynn
• I've had more fun with TF2...it feels more polished. However, Halo 3 has far more options. I dunno,... : Vincent Grayson
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  as i said in the last one of these threads, gibs. : pyide
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    Kills are so satisfying in TF2. :) The animations, sounds, ragdoll physics and gibs come together in a c... : vynn
    • also satisfying blowing up some guy emoting after he killed someone :P also immensely satisfying: Jump... : paravis
• I haven't played Halo, but TF2 is so super duper polished it's really a joy to play. It's nice to play a ... : u sir name
• I havent played TF2 once since Halo 3 came out :( : Jackass1233
• Halo 3. They have such a great system in place for matchmaking, lobbying, recording videos and screen sho : Magus
• TF2 is great, but too much been there done that and it's thirsting for more maps. Halo 3 perfects it... : paravis
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  Halo 3, only because i haven't played TF2 : Drewus
  • TF2. I'm taking solace that I'm going to cancel out this vote because I haven't played Halo 3 :) : liqker
• Halo 3 is The Next Big Thing, despite TF2's awesomeness. : snagger
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  havent touched tf2 since halo3 comes out, havent even thought about it. : maulla
  • Opposite here. I played an hour or 2 of halo3 on launch night, then went back to tf2. I keep wanting to g... : re-verse
• hmm, i take it we're starting to work on DNF multi. : Flynn
• I have had insanely good fun with both of them. : omnova
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  TF2 is on a PC, so it wins EOT : Zero|DPX
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    He didn't ask about controls, he asked about multiplayer : EvilDolemite
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      I didn't say anything about controls either. : Zero|DPX
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        It's the only advantage PC has nowadays. : EvilDolemite
        • Not necessarily... I think that PC games are more connected with the community. The fact that I can have ... : aeg1x
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          Better graphics, not having to be at my TV to play, and the ability to have a multiplayer environment tha... : Zero|DPX
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            so all PC games have better graphics? Why should you be tied to your desk? You've never played Counter-St... : RikiTiki2
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              PCs are capable of better graphics than consoles. That's not the same thing as saying that all PC _games... : Zero|DPX
              • Oh, and in the realm of FPSes, that controls question is not so abstract and theoretical, either. : Zero|DPX
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                And what of keyboard + mouse inputs with consoles? PSP, DS, Gameboys? Live can't be played with just Sh... : RikiTiki2
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                  keyboard + mouse inputs that no one uses that some games don't even support? portable systems that fai... : Zero|DPX
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                    well, it helps if you explain your posts before making an unsubstantiated blanket statement of "TF2 is on... : RikiTiki2
                    • In a subject that's been beaten to death as much as this one, I think you could have guessed what my subs... : Zero|DPX
          • I swear you're trolling, but I have to quibble about the "hardware that doesn't require 20 warranty swaps... : rock elf
        • thats a pretty big advantage imo. : captain hampton
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          PC games can also be run at a higher resolution with more graphical detail but of course that comes at a ... : vynn
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            360 with the HDMI is pretty damn nice looking, at that point it's really moot imo : RikiTiki2
            • Right now, yes. Consoles have just caught up to the PC in terms of hardware. In 3 years it will be a ver... : DOOManiac
        • The internet is far more saturated on PCs then it is on consoles. Consoles don't have anything like the w... : SpaecKow
    • Controls are the absolute most important aspect to multiplayer. More than the netcode even (if it's at le... : DOOManiac
  • hey what has better controls? : Mr.SEX
  • NO : klearlyunseen
  • so PC games automatically are better than non-PC games? I point to Extreme Paintbrawl vs. Wind Waker : RikiTiki2
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    I posted this exact sentiment earlier, and then nuked it because it sounded like a troll or would start a... : dognose
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      Let me guess DX10/Vista only? : vynn
      • No idea, if that's the case might as well be xbox only right now. : dognose
  • lol. I knew there'd be one of these posts. : ColoradoCNC
• TF2. The gameplay is Fast! You dont have to be a good aimer to play is what I think it all boils down to. : supermonkeyballz
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  TF2 but needs more maps, less SuddenDeath, and no timelimits : gyokuro
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    I think timelimits serve a good purpose, but maybe smarter timelimits that can adjust dynamically dependi... : vynn
    • Yeah I'd like to see better implementation of overtime rather than it only happening if a point is somewh... : aeg1x
• TF2 for me, purely because of the accessibility of the controls for me. : hobbespanache
• TF2, because I can play it with a keyboard + mouse, and w/o a monthly fee. : DOOManiac
• They are both brilliant. I enjoy Halo 3 more, but that doesn't mean it's better. : lookitzpancakes
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  TF2 is just more fun plain and simple. You can get fustrated in Halo3.. but even dying in TF2 is fun. M... : Edges
  • it's fun for me but based on what I see typed and hear over voice comm apparently some people take it muc... : Old_Fart
• I have more fun with TF2. The required teamwork, fluid nature of the game that requires you changing your... : Serpico74
• TF2 does what it does better and with more style than Halo 3. But, Halo 3 has much more variety in gamep... : SolrFlare
• TF2, more fun and awesome and pretty and makes me laugh and feel funny in my tummy. : dahanese
• Warhawk. :O : Boxelder
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  its a trap, if you say just say TF2 he can justify the long dev time, if you say Halo 3 he can use the aw... : grandmasterlee
  • There's no need to justify anything any more. I think everyone has pretty much decided what's better for : te[R]ror
• TF2, I haven't enjoyed a multiplayer FPS like this since Natural Selection. : Kaerof
• TF2. Dare I mention Crysis now that I've played a bit of Beta. : te[R]ror
• TF2 all the way. : dmason
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  I think TF2 is getting more votes because all of the TF2 players have time to come post here while they w : OverloadUT
  • Yeah, sure dude. : feek
  • I imagine the majority of problems are system issues and not game issues. I've been running TF2 flawless... : Sapiens
  • I have had zero issues running TF2. Hell, I can't remember the last time I had issues running a PC game (... : Serpico74
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    Right, the Xbox failure rate is so low. : dmason
    • Haha, that didn't even occur to me. : OverloadUT
  • no crashes with TF2 for me either : Old_Fart
  • TF2 has never crashed on me. Played 50+ hours. : vynn
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    I have about 20+ hours logged into TF2 and it hasn't crashed a single time, not sure where you are gettin... : lightly inclined
    • From my own experiences. I tried to join my friends all playing TF2 online the other day, but the game cr... : OverloadUT
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  Ship DNF with Halo 3 style gameplay and an SDK that people can turn into DNFF. That is why you asked, ri... : rosewood
  • Think he needs a new engine for that. : [7]kami
• TF2. Halo 3 MP does not enforce team oriented gameplay as much as TF2 does. Even in the hardcore fps ar... : dopeman
• Halo 3 because there is so much more to it (gametypes). TF2 is fun inshort bursts but gets old quick. : Mansmells
• Man, I wonder when these trolls are going to get bored of starting Halo 3 vs TF2 threads. : BlackCat9
• TF2 because it's fucking fun, regardles if you win or lose. : [7]kami
• This argument doesnt matter, Unreal Tournament 3 is gunna come along and be a better MP experience than b... : thewindcriesmary
• TF2 because class based multiplayer is always better, plus it has a sense of style and fun. Halo 3's mult... : baron calamity
• I'm going to say Halo 3, because of the dozens of different game modes and endless customizability built ... : MikkleThePickle
• I hate questions like this, but I think if I could play Team King and Rocket Race with good people for th... : Chris Remo
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  halo 3 is FAR superior to half life 2. the end. : jackalope
  • Too bad he was asking about TF2 and NOT HL2 deathmatch. (That said HL2 was better and I hated HL2 ;P ) : baron calamity
• TF2 by a long way for me. I'm not really a fan of Halo 3 MP. The game feels very generic and lifeless.... : peanut-
• TF2 definitely wins this. : Arsenal
• Halo3 kept the traditions of the previous Halo games but expanded on them with some new features. TF2 ... : Beady
• TF2 because it's the most recent vaporware to ship before yours :) : Postal
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  Question: Why doest TF2 win when it seems that Halo has much more gameplay variety and amusing situations... : kingdepork
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    It's because TF2 is fueled by the gasoline they call FUN! : aaarrrgh
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      I'm asking what's making it so fun that is above and beyond what TF had? From everything I read it seeme... : kingdepork
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        Well, they basically took out all the stuff that made TF tedious, and substituted it with elements that a... : aaarrrgh
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          Sounds good, but I"m gonna have to 360 it. Ouch! : kingdepork
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            You will burn in hell, heathen. : [7]kami
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              There's not enough good games coming out for the PC that I want to ONLY play on the PC. I have no reason... : kingdepork
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                So. You clearly haven't played World of Warcraft yet, huh? Kick yourself in the cock for that too. And ... : [7]kami
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                  I played WoW, quit that job in a couple weeks. Joined up a couple more times and it bored me to tears. ... : kingdepork
                  • You know all resistance will be futile once Starcraft 2 is released, right? Might aswel enjoy TF2 now if ... : [7]kami
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                    Then why not spend only $1500? (aussie) which is how much a top of the line pc is worth these days. : thewindcriesmary
                    • You can spend anywhere from 1500 to 5000. I usually spend 3K so i can max out settings for a few years. ... : kingdepork
          • I am probably going to end up buying it twice since I want the Half-Life 2 pack for 360 and I will get Te... : Evil Benius
      • Fun is a very nebulous aspect, both to define and to incorporate into a game. Why is Rise of Nations mor... : bipolar
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    I imagine for some people that variety isn't as important. If you really love what TF2 provides, it's pr... : Chris Remo
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      My main problem right now is my main pc is down and I'm on a shit laptop. So I'm gonna have to get oran... : kingdepork
      • It will make you cry blood. I think the 360 version is mostly targetted towards those that never rocketju... : [7]kami
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      You haven't played much q3a dm have you? That was perfection as far as dm was concerned. : spectr3
      • I enjoyed it much more with promode. : kingdepork
  • The biggest thing is I've played Halo 3 a hundred times before. It has dozens of game modes but no variet... : peanut-
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    Because quantity does not equal quality. Variety is not a virtue in and of itself unless it creates an ov... : ayesel
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      Thank you very much. You're making me very optimistic. Now here's the question: Would you play it on a... : kingdepork
      • I'm sure it will lessen the experience somewhat. But having TF2 is better than not having TF2. : Crimsonbeak
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        Honestly, I think it would diminish it a lot for me, but I'd really need to play it to say for sure. A lo... : ayesel
        • Yeah, I am pretty sure the scout won't be as good as the speed you can execute your movements is the key ... : razlebol
  • it's because people are dumb douchebags : Mansmells
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    How about playing TF2 before judging? : razlebol
    • I'm pretty sure he pointed out he wasn't trolling, simply asking a question. : Drewus
• Apples and oranges. Both are awesome for different reasons, though for the moment I'm enjoying Halo 3 ... : Helter Skelter
• TF2 because the medic is so cute with his cloak flappin' in the wind while he's healin' heavies. : helvetica
• I find TF2 more fun due to class variety but Halo 3 mp is far stickier than TF2. Forge, 360 achievements... : spiderfill
• If I want to play with the volume up and just chill out or my friends are over and we want to get some 2-... : carazy
• TF2 because xbox360 is like 100,000 dollars or something. : mrwolf710

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• post the demo for enjoyment : Draugluin
• Yep, fun stuff. Just an FYI I was palying as Technoviking. : duncandun
• It's frustrating when classes you're good at already have too many people, and when your team sucks in ge... : feek
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  I loved how my sentry gun owned so many of you at point C near the end. >:D : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Doesn't come close to making up for how useless you are as an engineer every other time >:( : feek
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      My favorite maddog moment was on the penultimate map, he kept rushing in to cap as a medic by himself. T... : rosewood
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        My favorite moment was on that last map, where I rushed right up behind you with a shotgun and got you wh... : Maddog_Delphi97
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          What makes you have such a hard time working as a team and paying attention and all of that? : rosewood
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            poor maddog. All he wanted to do was man his sentry's and this is how we treat him :) : Slowtreme
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              He doesn't even man it. He builds it and runs off and does who-knows-what : feek
              • Ok, I'm done ragging on maddog for now. Sorry, maddog, it's just frustrating. : feek
• I was not playing my best. :( Blah. I think the first few were some of the best though. : DHAvatar
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  Was fun when I sneak-capped C haha, pwnd. : duncandun
  • I was calling the whole time we were capping b to get a body out there. heh, : Slowtreme
• Think we'll find out by this weekend who gets in? And that was a whooooooooooole lot of fun. : mittense
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  Yeah - sucks I wasn't able to participate. Dude trying to sell me windows wouldn't shut-up. :) : zipper76
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    Steve wouldn't shut up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL4hyATkQ74 : Maddog_Delphi97
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      oh my god that was amazing. : Bingo
      • I especially love the way he said "Miami Vice", lol. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    I'm actually really really bummed that I didn't get to try out. : mrwolf710
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      Did you at least try to connect tonight? We had empty slots tonight. You could've joined if you wante... : Maddog_Delphi97
      • I got home and checked my shack messages and the match started in 5 minutes. I didn't even have Teamspea... : mrwolf710
• please to be posting demo : smoove
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  So how did you get to be the boss judge, mister? :D : tomservo
  • Someone had to take the reigns, no one else stepped up for East Coast. : Slowtreme
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    Because I'm cooler than all of you : rosewood
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      be ready for a lot of bitching when people don't get picked. : thekidd
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        I can't WAIT! : rosewood
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          I demand somebody be dropped and I put in as a replacement. I'm a better soldier than anybody you have. ... : forgottenzero
          • Did you play tonight? : rosewood
  • Heh, no kidding--that's exactly why I have no interest in this group. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?i... : Bold
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  This for the SA game? Awesome, you guys will decimate them with this much coordination. What would be... : yemeth
  • And I'm using the newfangled meaning of decimate, not the old and busted "killing one tenth of them". : yemeth
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    My signature move would be walking into crits. :( I was getting hit with crits much more than usual. : DHAvatar
    • You did awesome, though. : mittense
  • No, these were clan (lol) tryouts. : feek
  • This isn't for the SA game, that's something different. : thekidd
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  so you found all the pros and only pros? : RikiTiki2
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    I wonder if Rosewood made the cut? : Lightzout
    • I always make the cut. : rosewood
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  Good times regardless of whether I make the cut or not. Was playing as C4pr1c0rn. : stryker75
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    Agreed, wish people would always play like that. : feek
    • I agree. That was the most fun I've had in TF2 since release. : mittense
    • Good voice helps. I don't know if it is cheap mics or what, but most of those I play with on public serve... : stryker75
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    loved your healing. i wish I had installed tdisp cos half the time I had no idea who people were when the... : Unleashed
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      Yeah, I didn't have a great night either. Had to pop a few Ubers too soon because I was low health myself... : stryker75
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        Did you play under a different name : rosewood
        • Yeah, C4pr1c0rn : stryker75
    • Definite downside but it really helped me see who was trying to work together as a team and who wasn't. : rosewood
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  me and my medic friend picked of about 5 in a row running from points A into point B good times : okellyc
  • That was lol times. They just kept coming out : Slowtreme
• It's too bad my machine isn't worth a damn to play competitively, I would've loved playing with you guys.... : Draco
• Steam crashed on me and when I restarted I had to update and couldn't join :( : FushigiDenki
• What exactly were these tryouts for and why wasn't I invited? )c: : WaterSign
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  lol tryouts : Mansmells
  • i bet they'd get their ass whooped on the pubs haha : gyokuro
• Bros before pros, bros before pros oh wait nevermind ;-) : hashd
• would be fun but too many hoops :( like a fraternity. : geneshifter
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  Fuck, I missed it. Instead I spent the night being good as an engineer for once on the #69 server. : ConfusedUs
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    you wrenched like mechanic in a ford dealership : IcomeINpeace
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      Haha, yeah. I think I got a domination on you once. I think it had to do with the smaller teams (serve... : ConfusedUs
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        heh yeah..had to disrupt your stuff after you died and left them unattended. : IcomeINpeace
        • By that point you guys had the point captured. You just saved me the hassle of destroying them myself. ... : ConfusedUs
• I made the cut. And I didn't even play. : freshyk
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  Cool, the demos I recorded aren't playing back. : rosewood
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    Maybe the update broke them? : nyranger66
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      Exactly ] playdemo shackclan ERROR: demo network protocol 9 outdated, engine version is 10 Failed t... : rosewood
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        I blame id for setting the bar on that one. : Turd Ferguson
        • Well I remember most of who played tonight so I guess if I don't remember you playing, you sucked so qq : rosewood
      • Try looking for a console command for protocol. There was one in HL that had similar functionality thoug... : alias
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    in that case... I dominated everything..might as well get me on the team : IcomeINpeace
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      You didn't even play : rosewood
      • ....yes...that's true : IcomeINpeace
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    Is this the East Coast shack clan? : midgetherder
    • EST/CST yes : rosewood
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  FUCK. I get internet tomorrow! At least tell me that the TF2 demo isn't over yet : itsjames
  • I don't think it ends, the "beta" will probably go up until the full game hits a week from tomorrow. : wasylm
• I just got internet packets today :( will there be a scrub west coast team the 'main' team can scrimmage... : Downforce
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  I don't know why everyones complaining about not being able to try out. Nobody's stopping you from formin... : nyranger66
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    in fact, I forgot that hirez(I think) is forming a west coast clan. : nyranger66
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      good. fuck you east coasters! this is a revival of Q2CTF coastal hating!!!!!1111 it will take 2 hours ... : Downforce
      • hahahahah : nyranger66
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      We should form a EU clan toon. I'm already the GM of a WoW-guild (when will the hurting stop...) so coun... : [7]kami
      • too* edit button plox : [7]kami
• Sorry I had to leave before it finished up. I had a good time, it was fun to play with a coordinated team... : wasylm
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  I'm just gonna say I think it would be silly if some of the better players that didn't make tryout night ... : Slowtreme
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    We're fucked, aren't we. : nyranger66
    • fucked? naw. Even a bad (aim) team can put up a good fight after they see what you are up against, at the... : Slowtreme
  • It is going to take a lot of practice and time to get up to some of these clans. A lot of these guys hav... : rosewood
  • It was a lot of fun. : mittense
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  wouldn't it be better to look at the players stats? i mean maybe some guy "pwned" during the tryouts but ... : gyokuro
  • No. : rosewood
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    The stats system used for TF2 is useless beyond saying you play a lot of X. : alias
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      erm, not really? you can still compare pts to hrs played. a soldier with 4000 pts in 50 hours is most lik... : Ziggurat
      • YRLY cause accumulating points on pubs in a teambased game kinda disqualifies the data. : [7]kami
• Bah. i missed it. : captain hampton
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  Tryouts are over before the game is released? That's pretty neat. : asylumn
  • Yeah that seems odd to me, but what are you going to do? : Evil Benius
• Tangent: Just started somewhat seriously playing this week. Really liking medic, and I've read other peo : bipolar
• Serious internet business right here. : gmd