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  Shacknews.com Team Fortress 2 Tips Tricks and Tactics (rev1) General/All classes: -look at your teamà : romulan
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    wow...when you said mega post you were NOT joking! : agentlead
    • I finally, actually *read* the whole thing this morning. Goldmine. : romulan
  • Wow. Great post. Where's filtersweep's bookmark script when you need it. : carrioN luggagE
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    great advice, although I don't really agree on the scripting part, takes away a bit of skill involved. : shirif
    • it won't work on the shack servers anyway. but it's still helpful. start your own server and use this s... : romulan
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  Protip for soldiers: Learn to fucking aim }:( : rosewood
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    Yeah. I'm getting to the point with the soldier where I can start shooting enemies into the air and blast... : mittense
    • yea im getting used to where to shoot people for rockets in the air now ala q3. Its just a lil slower but... : Iwannaacura
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      I've gotten my first few air rocket combos: 1. rocket at feet 2. air-rocket in the pie hole.. yum:D ... : sodomy
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        totally forgot to add crit info.. i think its a weighted random based on how long you've been alive and/... : romulan
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          yeah it's based on the damage you have done within the last, I think like 15 or 20 seconds (might be less... : mikecyb
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            That makes sense, I've had a few great runs where 3/4 rockets were crit and it just kept going... kewl.. ... : sodomy
            • heh, spewing a stream of crits from the HWGuy is just awesome. : deject
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            another crit question: heavy gets his in bursts. is that exclusive to him because of the weapon he uses... : romulan
            • n/m looks like that was answered. couple swore i fired off consecutive rockets before. : romulan
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              yeah I think so... his seem to come in spurts. actually this happens with the pyro as well (you can see ... : mikecyb
              • but where you said the more likely you are to get a lot of crits, and if you continue to do damage then i : romulan
  • this is actually really good advice : Mr.SEX
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  Medics: STOP DUAL HEALING. Dual healing should only be used if almost everyone else is dead or no one els... : haiku
  • i'm thinking about playing right now : Mr.SEX
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    but it's funny and it feels like im a ghost buster : yay4furryanimals
    • Don't cross the streams! : Moonbase Commander
  • I've hidden behind a corner w/ another medic, healing a heavy that was getting the shit beat outta him, a... : epit
  • I'll chain heal sometimes, so it goes medic -> medic -> heavy. It soaks up two medics, but it really keep... : Sniper21
  • And don't just heal the combat classes, heal your fellow medics too. : DrZettl
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    how about chain medic healing? say, around corners? : m0rfus
    • Yeah that can be really useful and neat when pulled off. I am mostly just talking about pre-round setup o... : haiku
    • Yeah I try to determine if the medics getting the brunt of damage or not and I'll help out, otherwise I u... : yay4furryanimals
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  Soldiers: At the beginning of a round if you are going to charge up with a medic, instead of rocket jumpi... : haiku
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    but cabinets heal you too, doesn't that take away from the charge speed? uber goes up faster if the medi... : mikecyb
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      Apparently the medic beam will override the cabinet giving you health. And with no reload you can fire so... : haiku
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        I was wondering how you fuckers were almost perpetually invulned last night : romulan
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          Noobler and I had a hilarious moment at a Control Point when we tried to uber over to it and encountered ... : haiku
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            When that happens, you can try firing at the medic to blast him away from his target. : crummynz
            • YEAH SURE MAYBE I GUESS THAT IS YOUR OPINION. : haiku
            • I hate it when that happens. : freshyk
      • that is immense. I had no idea no wonder valve had non-stop ubers when they played the shack. man there... : mikecyb
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      When standing in front of an ammo cabinet, you don't have to reload holy shit that's huge : romulan
      • In terms of charging a medic yeah, it is huge. But since ammo cabinets are only inside bases, that doesn'... : haiku
    • Don't question it, it is what valve did and it works. : rosewood
    • I'm wondering if this behavior is because if you're being healed by a medic and you walk over a health pa... : yay4furryanimals
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    ^^^ if you're out of the base, blasting a wall is faster than jumping also. i should take out "rocket ju... : romulan
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      i'm not entirely sure about this, when i was healing sikander when he was rocket jumping super high i cou... : Mr.SEX
      • i thought the time spent in the air was wasted. you can blast off four rockets standing a little away fr... : romulan
  • If I do it next to a ammo cabinet I never lose health. : Slowtreme
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    great tip, they should nerf this though. Teams should not be out the gate uber imo : grandmasterlee
    • yes they should : rosewood
    • Valve guys do it all the time when I've played them on their server. It's pretty much intended at this po... : Slowtreme
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    wait what? Standing next to a despenser basically gets rid of reloading? I thought it just replenished yo... : paravis
    • You never have to reload because as you fire, the ammo is instantly replenished. : EvilDolemite
    • not an Engineer's dispenser, the cabinets in the spawn areas : deject
• can someone link me to the shacknews server list again? just trying to see if there are any servers i do... : spector
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  Shackers, I hacked together a prog that you can paste all of your shack servers in and it will add them i... : yay4furryanimals
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    Is it a script or an exe? : FushigiDenki
    • It's a C# prog requires .NET 2.0 I can release source I really don't care it's something I threw together... : yay4furryanimals
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  2 of us on Shacknews only #69 : rosewood
  • I've been home sick waiting all day for people to start getting on the shack servers, go go go : xjdrake32
• No more talking about TF2 between the hours of 10am-7pm. I want to play now. :( : mittense
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  Tip? if you're a medic and you're healing while moving pretty slowly (heavy) you can usually turn aroun... : yay4furryanimals
  • heck, you can look all around all the time. It just sucks when you know theres a spy, but you also know ... : deject
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  http://www.battlewiki.com/wiki/index.php/TeamFortress_2 http://helpmewithmygameproblems.com/wiki/Half_Li... : romulan
  • ***updated Nov 1st lots of new stuff*** : romulan
• Updated post: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15337360#itemanchor_15337360 : romulan

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• if only I didn't have midterms this week... : Yanks
• Check out my triple kill with an oddball, screenshots and a film clip: http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3... : nomaad
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  I didn't see her coming at all. : Tincan
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    She's really good. FOR A GIRL LOLOL : Rauol Duke
    • When we used to have Halo and Halo 2 parties regularly, she was the best in our group by far. I came in a... : BlackCat9
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  Posing around on the mongoose! http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Screenshot.ashx?size=full&ssid=AD6971B2... : enyakk
  • Dragondrop FTW. Very nice composition on the first one. : BlackCat9
  • that first shot is fucking great. : maulla
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  is zombie/infection/survivalism an official gametype now? : dewdman
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    Infection is the official gametype of what used to be called Zombie. Survivalism is the mode I made with ... : BlackCat9
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      that sounds awesome : dewdman
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        If you want it, please download it from me. http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=Per... : BlackCat9
        • Thanks for the link. Queued for download when I get home. : sigpro
        • que'd : agentlead
        • I love these custom game types! Queued this one for download later. I was having a lot of fun with Forg... : AltZero
  • yes it is : agentlead
• God damn I had a good time with rocket race last night. I may go in and get some screenshots of the craz... : Begawkiness
• this game rules so hard. that survivalism mode is a lot of fun. : pandastrong
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  Here's me jumping on foxhawk's head and killing him =) http://forgoodnotevil.com/gallery/halo3/mp/deat... : action roommate
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    damn that gunner has Hayabusa armor. Who is it and how do you get that shit? : h o s t i l e
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      get all the skulls in the game : dewdman
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        Sidenote: A friend of mine used to work with the multiplayer designer at Bungie and we spent Saturday nig... : dewdman
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          how the fuck did he get it flaming? : h o s t i l e
          • all Bungie employees get flaming hayabusa helmets, as well as the Bungie logo next to their name. http://... : dewdman
    • Get all the skulls in the campaign. I think it might have been DavidSMACK or one of the other people who ... : BlackCat9
    • It's foxhawk - I dunno how. ask him! : action roommate
    • i think you get it by collecting a certain number of skulls : pandastrong
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      Its most likely foxhawk. Fox and I went through on coop and got all the skulls. If anyone wants any help... : Umbr
      • gonna send an invite. i'm playing it again on heroic : poolofbooze
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      I got my Hayabusa armor last night. Most of the skulls are pretty easy to get with the youtube videos tha... : sigpro
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        There is no indication that you have credit for the terminals. What you have to do is watch the terminal ... : Umbr
        • Ok good to know. The 1st three take some time to get too, but the others can be done pretty fast. : sigpro
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        It's kind of weird about achievements. I played through the entire game via XBL coop and when I got to t... : Begawkiness
        • Yes if you go back and play the level from the start and finish it you will get the achievements. You wi... : Umbr
        • Crappy. Glad I did my first play though in single player and got credit for everything. : sigpro
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        I got the terminals. It looks like you need to... Access terminal, Hit "A" to the end, then "X" to the... : Werkin
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          All you have to do is let it run without pressing a button (past the red/alarm section and it moves to th... : stump
          • But what fun is it having to sit patiently and wait... I NEED TO PRESS ZEE BUTTONS!! : Werkin
    • if you get 1000 gamerscore, you also get a samurai sword (you can't use it, it just sits on your back) : OrkO
• those pics are great...this game is greatness...cant wait to get home and play some... : agentlead
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  does the actual game look anything like these shots? I know the resolution will be lower in-game, but wha... : Supine
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    I think the screenshots are actually compressed. It looks better in action. : Rauol Duke
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      how can people complain that the graphics are bad or that it doesn't look next-gen? hell, I'm not a fan o... : Supine
      • People complain about ANYTHING. : Rauol Duke
  • It looks like that. Those shots are taken from in-game replays. : Begawkiness
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    I may be mistaken, but I think the game aliases the screenshots a bit more than actual gameplay : Foxhawk
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      err anti-aliases, whatever : Foxhawk
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        You are not mistaken. The game does look great, but they are doing some tricks because in-game it's 1 : ThomW
        • Of course, they are doing that so that they have two framebuffers to render high and lowpass lighting and... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  I had so much fun playing infection last night... Can we play again tonight guys, please can we? : voodooraze
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    Haha! Oh, I'd count on it. :) : BlackCat9
    • Survivalism is the most fun I've had in Halo 3 so far. In fact it's the most fun I've had in a FPS in a l... : OverloadUT
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  Here are a few that got uploaded. I have taken alot more but they did not upload to bungie.net. Everyo... : Umbr
  • http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=Umbr : Umbr
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  Flag Gaurding: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Screenshot.ashx?size=medium&ssid=6C1D57D14A2359A1F6DC0... : Silent Wolf
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    Hi res shots of above http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Screenshot.ashx?size=full&ssid=6C1D57D14A2359A1F... : Umbr
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      how did you get the high res versions? : Silent Wolf
      • its the little + sign on all the pictures : Umbr
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  I think this should be a contest with a prize. You have till Friday to submit your best screenshot a... : geedeck
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    So there will be an individual thread for this? : h o s t i l e
    • submit to this thread, I'll do a posted thread on Friday to announce winner and wrap-up. : geedeck
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    what about us without xbox360's !! : Iwannaacura
    • And you're trying to win a wireless halo 3 headset why? Orange you glad I'll be posting another contest ... : geedeck
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      why would you want a Halo 3 wireless headset then?!? : suqur
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        so i can give to my friends with xbox360s!!! : Iwannaacura
        • clevar, but then why not just make screenshots on theirs? : geedeck
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        because you could still use it on the PC via the wireless dongle. : sigpro
        • oh really? that's awesome : suqur
    • You've come to the wrong place my friend. : Werkin
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    Singleplayer or multi? : Silent Wolf
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      Thanks for noting this, let's say multiplayer : geedeck
      • :( : g0nk
  • Good idea, I'll have to start looking through my games for some good stuff then :) : Begawkiness
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    US only right? =/ : nomaad
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      let me get back to you on that : geedeck
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        can easily mail it to canada at least.... just mark it down at the post office as "gift under 50$" and it... : -=kodiak=-
        • Oh, sorry, any NA is absolutely okay, and I'll get back w/ more info later : geedeck
  • ok here's my entry, take note that this was my first running riot (15 kills in a row) woot! http://bag... : bagelcc
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    Stop. http://pwnage1232.shackspace.com/stop.jpg Hammerzeit! : pwnage1232
    • holy crap that is awesome : bagelcc
    • Hahaha very nice shot! : Begawkiness
  • I can't decide which to post so you get both. Here I am decorating the enemies base on Valhalla. h... : locash
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  Does anyone know why only some of the screenshots I have taken show up in the high res gallery? I have ta... : Umbr
  • i think you have to put them in the fileshare...i could be wrong..correct me if so.. : agentlead
• I posted some of these before, but: Hammer'd (playing defense in one-flag CTF): http://www.bungie.net... : Ovate
• I posted this in yesterday's thread. It is impossible to make a better picture than this. This happened S... : OverloadUT
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  Weeeee!! Thanks to Solrflare for posting awesome screenshots in his high res section!! I have lots of w... : Galadriel07
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    Alot of the spartan bodies in Forge gone bad were me :( But the good thing is that I think that map ... : Reptile
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      I think it was awesome last night. I always have trouble with slayer type maps but the social ones are al... : Galadriel07
      • Ranked games tend to result in me just getting pissed off. : Reptile
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  The thing I loved the most about going back and watching those two guys on the walkway on Last Stand was ... : DianeOfTheMoon
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    By the way, I put up a clip of the moment when I took out half the humans during my Alpha Zombie reign if... : DianeOfTheMoon
    • I just watched that clip. Very awesome! : OverloadUT
• Hammer vs Skull in a ranked oddball game. i had the skull, he had the hammer.... he lost. http://ko... : -=kodiak=-
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  Here is some pics from team slayer on sandtrap, qucik story- i see a worthog aiming right for me, the gu... : ltwhankins
  • also check my halo 3 file share for the clip of the hog : ltwhankins
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    drag & drop for these : Shadowdane
    • d'oh! : ltwhankins
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  Look at these they're neat: At least I think so :P One of my best sticks ever, it was an epic feeling... : paravis
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    did you stick an afk guy? : fletch_
    • You can see his victim jumping in the first shot. The grenade stuck him right as he landed. So no. Awesom... : OverloadUT
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      my "follow these in order" mention didn't seem to "stick" with you eh? ;P He jumped off the platform ... : paravis
      • It stuck to his hammer too, that is gold. : h o s t i l e
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        very nice, i missed the first one i guess, otherwise it looks like some dude just standing there : fletch_
        • indeed it does. Funny thing, my roommate comes in and sees that first one and says, what the hell ho : paravis
  • hahah it stuck on the hammer, that rules. : Silent Wolf
  • Stuck on You: Part Deux + WTF?! + silly shots This one takes the cake, pure luck :P Again, go in order... : paravis
  • Can you make a filmclip of this and file share it? I'd like to see it in action. : OverloadUT
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  Am I the only one who has trouble rewinding videos? I can watch them fast... or slow... but if I miss som... : bozer
  • doesn't work in sp. In multiplayer press left on the d-pad : Silent Wolf
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    ? You can't slow/fast rewind, you can only go back using markers. I don't know how the markers are set, ... : paravis
    • if you just tap on the back arrow in the "X" menu it goes back in 10 second increments, i think if you ho... : dedgecko
• i just noticed this main pic thread.. :[ here's some i took http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodroid/s... : g0nk
• Here's a mid-air laser shot I got on a buddy during a hide and seek infection session. View from me: h... : Pacalon
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  Here are a few of mine, most reposts from last night, but I really like these: Boredguy has fun in for... : SolrFlare
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    nice ones; seriously anything from rocket race looks incredible. : paravis
    • that's because rocket race is incredible : Majuju
• why the FUCK didn't they use flood models for the infected? MEH! : XchumpoX
• hmm, been messing around with it a bit more and have run into a problem. WHERE IS THE DELETE ALL BUTTON?... : paravis

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  You need to play on the shack servers, I would rush with you ;) : shortbuscaptain
  • As of last night, I have been, but no one was on. :( : suicidemachine
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  Invuln Pyro is the most hilarious shit ever. I've seen two incidents where the entire enemy team has been... : Gauss
  • I've participated in one of such incidents... As a Pyro... On a 32-player full server >:-) Was quite an a... : High-g
  • god that shit is so overpowered. :) heavy+uber -> powerful but advances as fast as a snail soldier+u... : smax
• Serves them right for bunching up like that. Reminds me of Onyxia raids :D : liqker
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  The one tactic I do have a problem with is "chasing". Back in the TF/TFC days, "chasing" was frowned-upon : Bold
  • We werent playing CTF. : suicidemachine
  • yea i noticed this aswell sometimes some players would leave me alone and i know those guys played by tho... : Iwannaacura
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    yeah that kind of stuff can be frustrating. similar things happen in oddball in halo 3 when one guy has t... : Mansmells
    • errr ... in *sight* :( : Mansmells
    • yea i've had that happen a few times. I want to scream "dumbass, killing me does nothing, get the dude wi... : jonin
  • So you're just supposed to give the enemy soldier a nod or a high five as you're running by him? i can un... : Boo Pipes
  • That just seems like a stupid rule. If I'm a soldier and I see a scout heading for my base you can bet I'... : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • that is possibly the most retarded and hilarious shit I've ever heard : Gauss
  • this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. : johnny rotten
  • Except when excessive 'chasing' occurs, and degenerates the game into 'general deathmatch,' it becomes ea... : thief
  • Guys, let's watch CareBears!!! : Kaerof
  • That's a fucking stupid rule. While I agree that it's often bad strategy, occasionally it can actually b : Arcanum
  • thats dumb : Maarten Goldstein
  • That must be new in that ridiculous TFC mod, because I played years and years worth of the original TF, I... : forgottenzero
  • i've never run into that problem at all even on pubs. sure there's some combat in the center, but it does... : cpt_gloval
  • Nah, it is part of the game. Part of being a good offense is knowing how to get around their offensive li... : SenorSpine
  • man, reading this brought up bad memories :/ I think people spent more time arguing about it in-game then... : lowpoly
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    I dont get why'd you care about chasing. If the enemy is chasing, it weakens their offense. If your team ... : Tommy Toolbag
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      So what happens if you're on offense and the enemy offense chases you back into their base? If you engage : Bold
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        The deathmatching is integral to the game. You're deathmatching in the middle, yet if you're victorious ... : thief
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          How many times have you played 2fort in TF2 and there hasn't been a single flagcap? A big part of that is... : Bold
          • I'm going off TFC and gaming 'theory' -- not playing tf2 until later tonight. I understand your point... : thief
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            Does 2forts in TF2 still have the secondary entrances to the bases? If so, why aren't you using them to ... : Arcanum
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              No. It has two entrances, and both are visible in the midfield. That's why it's a shitty CTF map. : Bold
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                Alright, so their revision is dumb. As I said, there are good reasons all the CTF maps in QWTF had alter... : Arcanum
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                  To clarify, TF2's 2fort does have the water entrance, but it's up a lot higher--just below the bridge. If... : Bold
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                    Seriously you must be playing on crap servers or crap players. I rarely see the fights happen in mid fiel... : Slowtreme
                    • Shack servers? Again, I'm not saying there's a lot of this, or that we should make goofy artificial rules... : Bold
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                      ubercharge? teleports? I don't agree with chasing but potshotting is just fine. Also chasing is OK if yo... : Old_Fart
                      • that's another thing, if your defense is dead and waiting to respawn, should not help even if you are clo... : pyide
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                  2forts in qwtf is just like 2forts in TF2 as far as entrances : Old_Fart
                  • I'd like a 2techX :( : Slowtreme
              • three if you count the bridge roof : feek
      • If they attack you, they wont be capping either. move your defense to offense and grab their case. : Tommy Toolbag
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    I think separating it into just 2 areas is a bit dumb. Why not have 3: Forward offense (Heavies, Scou... : deject
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      also, outlawing "chasing" is kinda dumb. if it's a pub, the onus is on the players to coordinate. if it... : deject
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        Is it "dumb" like how some CS servers outlaw the AWP/autosniper, because sometimes playing without those ... : Bold
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          because that is easy to enforce. you can actually disable purchase of those weapons. and easily kick some... : pyide
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            Hey, don't get me wrong--I'm not saying we should have any artificial rules. I'm just saying it'd be nice... : Bold
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              offense = being on the offensive, doesn't matter if their guy is defense or offense, they are all fair ga... : pyide
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                But your goal isn't kills. It's CAPPING THE FLAG. Do that. Let the defense handle defense. Get it? If ... : Bold
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                  if a guy on the other team runs by me, i probably won't chase him, unless i am low on health and need to ... : pyide
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                    plus you are saying we should let stuff like this happen http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15245119#ite... : pyide
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                      Are you, as a scout, equipped to take out that HWG+medic combo? A better strategy is to let the actual : Bold
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                        so saying "hey guys, i didn't try to take out that medic, there's a soon to be ubered heavy coming your w... : pyide
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                          Yes. Because you're letting the defense do their jobs, and you're doing yours. You're completely misunder : Bold
                          • the problem is there are times when you are forced to do that. you can't always not chase, even if you do... : pyide
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                            The problem is you, as pyide said, seem to have a very static and inflexible view of how the game should ... : Arcanum
                            • Obviously people have to be flexible. But if you have an actual defense in place, if you TURN AROUND and ... : Bold
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                        A scout stopping to engage is called "stupidity", and as much as we'd like it to be otherwise, banning it... : Arcanum
                        • Again, I'm NOT saying we should ban this behavior. Jesus, does no one read? It's in this very fucking sub... : Bold
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                        Why can't you play offense without being a flag capper? For example, my favorite tactic on 2Fort is to go... : ayesel
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                          Are you helping the flagcappers? Yeah, then you're on offense. If you're stopping the enemy offense... we... : Bold
                          • you could be a midfielder! in team games like soccer the offense still plays some defense. or at least th... : pyide
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                            Again, I revert to the point that 2Fort is a dynamic map. I don't view enemies in terms of offense and de... : ayesel
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                              Do you ever watch little kids play soccer (e.g. football)? It's a big mob of children following the ball : Bold
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                                I agree there's a difference between dynamic play and poor teamwork, and I think in that sentence you've : ayesel
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                                  I didn't publish a 200-page tome, I posted some short forum comments. Yes, of COURSE such a short opinion : Bold
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                                    I think you've shifted from being wrong, to now only intellectually dishonest. An improvement to be sure,... : ayesel
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                                      My only fault was overestimating people like you. I had thought it fairly obvious that guidelines are jus : Bold
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                                        As I said, intellectually dishonest. The question: what should a player on offense do when he encounte : ayesel
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                                          Did you even read what you quoted? Did I use any language like "all the time" or "in every circumstance"?... : Bold
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                                            It seemed fairly clear to me. On the question of whether or not shooting an enemy was appropriate in the ... : ayesel
                                            • Wait, did you just compare yourself to a circus freak show? :-) Are you sure which of us has difficulty c... : Bold
                  • If you're not chasing the enemy's offense, that's super. What's your point again? : Bold
        • Yes, they are both unimaginably dumb ideas. Both rules are like 1-hit instagib unreal tournament servers... : forgottenzero
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          Because you're not outlawing a specific weapon/class, you're outlawing a style of play. It would be more ... : SatansFist
          • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15245168#itemanchor_15245168 : Bold
  • The CP maps encourage Deathmatching by forcing everyone to fight in specific areas. So 2 cents lost. : Slowtreme
  • so us guys on offense should let that heavy + medic combo waltz into our base and demolish the defense si... : pyide
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    Personally, I think the division between offense and defense is much more fluid in tf2 than what you desc... : Finestaut
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      2fort is a shitty CTF-style map since there's only one midfield. This whole "chasing" thing becomes a moo... : Bold
      • I really disagree with your assessment here. Yes, there's only one midfield (though I've made many sewer... : Finestaut
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    I am often bored out of my skull in 2fort basement because people are killing the other team before they ... : megarust32
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      You're contradicting yourself. First you say you're bored, then you say enemy spies are sneaking in. Whic : Robotic Puppy Eater
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        I'm not contradicting myself. It doesn't have to be one or the other. The spies don't come often enough... : megarust32
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          Same. It's best if you can get a Pyro to guard the SG (and flag) while you're off building teleporters, b : Bold
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            I hear you, though with the capture points it can be a different story. Your back points aren't always i... : megarust32
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              Right, I should clarify there were about a half-dozen guys on defense, including 2 (?) engineers. I was p... : Bold
              • Yeah, it's definitely fair game to hold you sentry back just in case then. : megarust32
  • Sounds like you made this up. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • ahh, the old days of Alterac Valley..... : yAak
  • the day people play like that is the day i stop playing : Zibro
  • Potshotting is a great way of reducing the offense's ability to take your flag. There are no "jobs" that ... : ieGod
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    Clarification Jesus fucking christ, settle the fuck down! I'm NOT saying we should have any articial rule... : Bold
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      lol "you people" you sound like that guy from office space : kill9
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        When you say your ‘sista;’ do you mean your sister or your friend? : Kaerof
        • Oooooooops : Kaerof
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      No don't stop posting, ppl just like to bitch and point out stuff they disagree with. I understood your ... : tunis5000
      • There is no enforcement. I never even suggested it. I only mentioned some league's / server's "house rule... : Bold
    • i think everyone knows and plays like this, it isn't rocket science like you say. even in non-tf ctf, off... : pyide
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      what sort of batshit insane scout would decide to take on a heavy/medic combo on a CTF map : mikecyb
      • To be honest, it's more often scouts chasing scouts. You end up with one dead scout, and one nearly-dead ... : Bold
  • the strategics of your post makes a lot of sense, but as far as enforcing it goes... no. : tunis5000
  • Gotta love all the hate on thing that have been tried many many times before in favor of chasing/potshott... : alias
  • Wtf, everyone chases my spy and takes potshots at him. BAN. : Edges
  • so what do you say to each other as you pass by on the covered bridge on 2fort. SUP? SUP? : Jayx77
  • This is as dumb as the "Medics can't use infection" rules. That's why it was put in the game damn it... : DOOManiac
  • I'd have to disagree, particularly due to some of the new mechanics that TF2 introduces. If you are on y... : s2jason
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    This is why 2fort is the worst map in the game. : aeg1x
    • I'll clarify by saying the cap point style maps FORCE players to be offensive and work as a team to secur... : aeg1x
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  This is why once the shack servers die out, I will probably never play TF2 again. I refuse to play on pu... : deathofrats
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    You are sick of the pyro rushing, or people bitching about it? : suicidemachine
    • sick of kids. Sick of kids whining that they were killed by someone playing the game how it was meant to... : deathofrats
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    The Q Clan server is pretty good, as is TacticalGamer.com (as always). There are other good pubs out ther... : Serpico74
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      The Q Clan's servers are always good in terms of quality and gameplay, but they are malicious at the same... : Sgt_Boomstick
      • Q server is good, but first time I have heard of this. I used to play on Q's and WOLF's DOD:S servers all... : shortbuscaptain
    • TG servers tend to have older players and use voip so +1 there : painangel
• I love the idea of being banned for potshotting. hahahahahhaa : thief
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  http://www.divshare.com/download/2181170-deb : sandcrab
  • pffffft, that's awesome : deject
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    ...and now the pyro is on the chopping block for nerfs. : Sgt_Boomstick
    • why? heavy can do the same thing. : skinlab133
  • Nice. Just today I got 5 pyro kills as defense on the 3rd round of dustbowl by rushing their gates and ki... : DOOManiac
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  They really need to put some kind of timer on the sapper, or make it not last as long. If I'm more th... : DOOManiac
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    This is a joke right? Engineers need a counter that can be useful instead of the crappy sapper attack th... : alias
    • I don't play engineer but isn't the entire point to rely on your sentry to give you points? : NastyJack
    • You mean if it just disabled instead of blew up, but cost 100 points to remove? I'd be okay with that sur... : DOOManiac
    • no doubt. Engineers should only use their shotgun! The sentries shouldn't even be in the game! : TheTick
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    Timer? No. Make it unspammable? Yes. If you've got a spy who stands next to your sentry and just keeps... : ConfusedUs
    • By timer I meant delay. So if me and 2 other people are all in the same area as the spy, he only has time... : DOOManiac
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      How else would you take out a sentry? It's a pain in the ass to take out a a fully upgraded sentry wit... : shortbuscaptain
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        Pain in the ass? Not for a good player. They'll sap all 3 things the engy owns (or more if there ar : DOOManiac
        • One hit with the spanner is all it takes to take us down... : ArtilleryMarker
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      I kill spammer spies all the time. Whack the first sapper, shotgun the spy in the face, then whack the s : smax
      • BIngo. : alias
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  pyro's are like WoW rogues if they had ambush dmg flamethrowers that give them a short range. It's ridic... : paravis
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    It's been that way since old-school TF. Not much in the way of special abilities, and some very importan... : Arcanum
    • Could they always fag it up and jump/hit you on the platform above them too? : oldschoolbob-o

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• oh SNAP, he says. That's a great shot. : Phil
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  I see your brain in that shot. : sigpro
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    i think that's someone else.. there's no "your brain" etc, bubbles. : romulan
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      Possible, but i have also seen it not put those bubbles up for me sometimes when I know I've seen my part... : sigpro
      • ok, must be a random thing i guess. : romulan
    • also, i have not see the bubbles until the animation stops. : m0rfus
  • That's Snake :P I couldn't take out that fucking turret but at least I got him. : SiW73
• wow that is a nice one. I had one last night of the moment a sniper got shot in his face i was a splitse... : Iwannaacura
• haha.. thats a great shot! :D : Shadowdane
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  Not mine, but here are my favs: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jerryatrick/ohgodmedics.jpg http://mywe... : guido anchovy
  • that medic rush is nuts : Slowtreme
• TF2 and Skate have the best deaths going right now. : midgetherder
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  Here's some shots I like I got killed by kainen's gibs.. http://www.hummerpages.com/kainengibs.png ... : AndyGoin
  • The last one is the most bits I've ever seen in a shot. :D : DOOManiac
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  http://jayx77.shackspace.com/noobler%20is%20looking%20good!.jpg I took this shot after getting backsta... : Jayx77
  • ohshi that's awesome! : SiW73
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    haha :D : Noobler
    • >:( : Jayx77
  • haah that's pretty awesome : mikecyb
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    I think that's the 1st spy death shot I've seen. Spies aren't meant to be seen, especially me. : ArtilleryMarker
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      90% of the time when you get backstabbed the dude is either cloaked or splattered all over the wall sp... : mikecyb
      • Spyin' ain't easy but it's necessary, So I'm chasing medics like Tom chases Jerry. : AlexXdude
  • fucking rogues. : creep
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  Am I the only one that uses taunts after you kill the person? That's what they are there for, for the kil... : pancake humper
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    No time. thats 4 seconds wasted I could be murdering people : Slowtreme
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      if there were taunt versions for when you are in motion, i would use them all the time. As it is, it's j... : stgulik
      • I moved "Medic" to H because that's where I'm used to it being. I left "Taunt" on G. Guess how many ... : reign27
      • This is precisely why I'm glad it takes time to do them. : DOOManiac
      • If you do the cheer or jeers though the menu, there are various class animations. Like a fist pump, etc. : Edges
  • I cheer sometimes : RikiTiki2
  • I did it while in the intel room on 2fort after mowing down a scout, I love the HWG taunt. : Jayx77
  • I always do it with the sniper and the pyro axe : aeg1x
• http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4713/colonelmassacreislookinja7.jpg : High-g
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  Either: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1468435958&context=set-72157602072687402&size=o or ... : painangel
  • Number 1 gets my vote. : sandcrab
  • That 2nd one would be an awesome wallpaper... : DOOManiac
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  I love pics of people on fire, or of the HWGuy smiling. When it has both, then it's just awesome. "You... : DOOManiac
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    http://www.geocities.com/qntmcat/images/stills/buddhist-on-fire.jpg : Visceral Monkey
    • Can't tell if he's smiling or not :( : sandcrab
• http://pukerat.shackspace.com/burnspy.jpg and http://pukerat.shackspace.com/kaboom.jpg : pukerat

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  It really depends on the map. : EvilDolemite
  • Not to mention how far along the other team is, and their general strategy. : walker270
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    ok, lets go into that a bit more - how would you break down based on map? : hirez
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      Not just by map, but whether you're on offense or defense. If you're defense you should never need a scou... : K1Bond007
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        it also depends on the situation. i change classes depending on what is going on and what we need. : manero
        • Very true. I don't like playing as a Scout, but I'll do it for rushing purposes to get a quick capture. : K1Bond007
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  whats the ubercharge thing with medics? i was so confused a couple days ago, i just want to shoot faces. ... : tomatoactivator
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    no one has grenades. ubercharge makes you and whoever you're healing invulnerable for like 10 seconds. i... : AllYourBase
    • No grenades? No MIRV grenades? No EMP grenades? This is horrible! =( : Jumperus
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    If medics hold down the heal on people for X amount of time (without being killed) they obtain the abilit... : Phil
    • Also, healing more damaged players builds uber charge faster. : crummynz
    • Ah, that makes sense. I've just never reached that point yet. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    For some reason, I can't get ubercharge to work when I'm a medic. I know it's the alt-fire button... b... : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Yep. Once you reach 100%, the medic will say, "I am full charged!" and you can activate the uber-charge w... : Bold
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        Cool, I'll listen more carefully for that then. : Maddog_Delphi97
        • well there's a status bar that shows the percentage, that's a pretty easy way of knowing... also the hea... : tunis5000
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  I would do 2 pyro, 1 Demo now. : Phil
  • Definitely since demos got beat with the nerf bat. : Sgt_Boomstick
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  I'm not really sure such a thing exists. It has a lot to do with playing strategy of any given map. I do... : haiku
  • Saw an amazing team of 1/2 pyros and 1/2 scouts just crush on one CP map. It was brutal seeing a line of... : mrwolf710
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  The ideal make-up is whatever counters the opposing team. The classes are really paper-rock scissors. I... : hawkeye
  • yes I agree - I'm looking at "this is what we'll start X map with" - and then wait to adjust based on the... : hirez
• 1 hwg, 2 engineers : Edges
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  Heh. We Scout rushed Granary a couple times in six-on-six games at the LAN party this past weekend. When ... : Ajax
  • What about against a L3 sentry gun? Or a heavyweapons with a medic? Or a swarm of pyros? Scouts are great... : Bold
• If the enemy has a lot of demomen I play scout, lots of engineers I play solider, lots of soliders I play... : Boxelder
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  I think engineers need a soldier or demo to truly be devastating. too many times have my sentries been b... : deject
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    Soliders are great for taking out turrets. That's my main function in the game. Demos may be able to ta... : Boxelder
    • well a demo should really use the sticky bombs for dealing with sentries if it's possible. 3 will take o... : deject
• I don't think TF plays that way. You don't pick 'builds' you pick strategies/tactics. The class make... : hawke
• It should probably change depending on the situation, for the very first "round" it's usually better to h... : FushigiDenki
• I think it depends on the map really : rosewood
• this kind of method to setting up a TF2 team just doesn't work. You need people that can hold down 3-4 cl... : Slowtreme
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  12 medics : Mr.SEX
  • better yet, 12 pyros, all on defense on 2fort! : aaarrrgh
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    http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jerryatrick/ohgodmedics.jpg : guido anchovy
    • ahahah thats awesome : AlexXdude
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      I think you just beat the team to death with that, they would have no way to kill you : askedrelic
      • and you would have no way to kill them o_O : aeg1x
• I think its all based on the map being played. for example granary absolutely needs 2 HWG/medics and a... : Jayx77
• well last night we had 2 HWG 1 Spy and i think somewere around 9 medics..worked out well :) : okellyc
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  Depends on the map and if you are defense or offense. A map like gravel pit will have radically different... : Serpico74
  • That said, well and granary definately have good make ups for the opening few minutes, where 3-4 scouts, ... : Serpico74
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  I'm retracting this question! I was thinking of a 'starting line up' but even that probably wont work mor... : hirez
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    The format for CEVO right now is 6v6 anyway. I've never played with the same set of 6 classes in scrim... : gnomish
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      I can imagine a squad going with several scouts early to secure that first, weakest defended point just t... : trOmblyj
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        from the CEVO rules: "Class restrictions - No more than 2 of any class is allowed at one time." : hirez
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          is that enforceable server side? : delataur
          • it was in ugh... TFC : Slowtreme
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      6v6 seems so small. I could see 9v9. : hirez
      • I've played a few scrims as 6v6, and I feel it's a little small, but I wouldn't want more than 8v8 really... : Ziggurat
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  12 scouts : razlebol
  • On Granary, yes! : AndyGoin
• Totally depends on the map. : Vangoghs Ear
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  Thread HIJACK! Does anyone remember playing TF with a class limit of ONE player for each class? That is, : Bold
  • I want to run a spies only server : mikecyb
  • I remember it, and it sucked. : DOOManiac
• 12 spies ftw : dodob
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  12 Engineers : n00b_sauce
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    i've played 12 engineers quite a few times on a goon server and it is really terrible : JINKY
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      How the hell do you do anything? Turtle city. : TheTick
      • 12 spies : Sapiens
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      haha wtf is that, 12 dudes sitting near a cap point/intel room and 12 other dudes getting splattered afte... : mikecyb
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        both teams were pretty much changing back and forth on rounds of hydro, 12 of whatever the first person s... : JINKY
        • 12 soldiers vs 12 heavies? who won? :p : dodob
• depends on map but here are my thoughts for 2fort: defense: 2 snipers 1 engineer 1 pyro 2 demo (or... : dopeman
• in some of the clusterfuck maps, 2 pyros can be extremely effective to help guard against bunching. : mindmann
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  who cares? 12 men? HEAVEN! : Korban
  • Oh Korban, you so crazy! lol : hirez

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  or you could adapt like the rest of us : cygnus
  • I've already adapted to having to play that way...clearly, that's not the point. It's silly that in clos... : ImageOmega
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    Adapt = use the now overpowered pyro. : Sgt_Boomstick
    • dingdingding : RikiTiki2
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  I agree. I think the grenades should still explode on impact after one bounce; any more bounces after tha... : mittense
  • Interesting what you're bringing up about sentries. I wonder if those explode on contact after the 1st b... : ImageOmega
• meh, the fix is fine to me. they far and away ourshined soldiers, now they're more inline : AllYourBase
• I hate the change as well. They should just reduce the damage for contact hits with each bounce. : Havoc1c4
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  I never felt they were overpowered to begin with. The lack of a hitscan weapon is IMO a pretty big weakne... : edgewise
  • Water is irregular at stopping fire... healthpacks are the best way. : silentw
  • I don't think the pyro was overpowered at all, especially since they have a really short effective range ... : omnova
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  It's funny, the Demo's grenade launcher reminds me of the Unreal Eightball.... which originally shot 8 ro... : silentw
  • yeah the gun itself has 6 slots, but the clip size is only 4. Which, I can understand...but, I think upp... : ImageOmega
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  Agreed. I'll probably never again play as the Demoman, because I hate grenade launchers that don't explod... : avatar_58
  • Wait, so you'd go from getting lucky grenade spam kills to a proximity grenade that takes 0 skill to kill... : shred.
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  These changes are proposed or already in place as of when? Are there patch/change notes anywhere? : sodomy
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    The changes went into effect Sept. 28th : AlexXdude
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      link to read about changes? : sodomy
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        Change notes are usually on www.steampowered.com under the "news" tab. Here's the details on the last TF2... : Bang!Splat*
        • ty : sodomy
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  Honestly, I've been saying the Demo has needed a nerf since day one. Demo is my favorite class, it has b... : cycopl
  • Other than the heavy chain gun ammo, the demoman grenades are the one ammo type I routinely run out of. : DrZettl
  • On day 1 and 2 I remember reading people say that he was UNDERpowered, and that's when I decided to give ... : feek
• Frankly, I don't give a shit what the competitive TF2 community thinks. Demos needed a nerf, so QQ : manero
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  i think they should stop the beta and wait another 10 years. fuck this : Mr.SEX
  • fuck everything *flips table* : Mr.SEX
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  Sounds like a bunch of people were playing demo for easy kills, and are now pissed off that their overpow... : walker270
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    except it went too far. Don't we know how that works SYLAS? : Slowtreme
    • Meh... Next patch they'll buff the fuck out of the demoman's gear making him significantly more powerf... : walker270
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  Is this the WoW forums? : chuck577
  • ha ha ha my thoughts exactly : johnny rotten
  • seriously... : deject
  • Nerf warlocks : wasylm
• ...the competitive TF2 community...playing a beta....for 2 weeks....yeah we'll get right on your balance ... : grandmasterlee
• the demo is still really good, it's just not spam grenades and rack up kills anymore (as much. it still k... : JINKY
• as long as you guys are still playing when I buy the game :D : thief
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  Wait so you can still bounce it off a single wall/surface and it will explode on impact right? That seems... : d3tached
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    no, it won't. it will only explode on contact for direct hits now. : deject
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      Well that is fucking dumb. I already stopped playing the class because I used to totally rely on bouncing... : d3tached
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        honestly, it's not that big of a problem. the only real situation it affects is hitting people around a ... : deject
        • Thats how I played it, because I never counted on being able to hit someone directly. But it seems like t... : d3tached
  • Nope, if it hits a wall it's not going to hit anything else. : hawkeye
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  So you can walk over grenades now when you see them lying on the ground? : stgdz
  • yes : Slowtreme
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  the first time I played as a demoman I broke my own records for kills, damage and points and most of tho... : mikecyb
  • Yeah I don't think they really needed the close-range damage boost, it should have been more how long you... : deject
• Sadly, Demo was my 2nd most played behind Spy. Since the nerf I've used the detonating grens exclusively... : Edges
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  having to directly hit people with the nades make the demos useless. soldiers can shoot the ground nea... : chilln
  • I wouldn't say useless, it just means people like me can't spam the floor hoping for cheap kills and be e... : lowpoly
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    use stickies and detonate them : Old_Fart
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      stickies suck offensively. There is such a delay when shooting them that you can only get out a 1 or 2 be... : Sgt_Boomstick
      • They have uses. Not as much as they did before when they bounced around a lot with controllable detonati... : alias
      • Tell that to the 957 people I've killed by shooting stickies at the ground while they chase me. They are ... : NastyJack
      • This will probably encourage more defensive demoman use. : crummynz
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  If you have a gameplay suggestion/complaint, use a special in-game reporting tool (it is under "Report Bu... : High-g
  • IIRC, to get noticed you need to maximize your "fag" points. Basically, every time you call valve a "fag... : walker270
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  I think demos are in a good place right now. They used to be able to rack up a whole ton of really easy ... : Finestaut
  • Yeah I agree. They were replacing soldiers too much. And my stats say I've played about 80% as demoman. I... : NastyJack
• I think giving him the dynamite (det packs in TFC) would help give him a little more of an edge. They ju... : megarust32
• I think this seems like overkill, but I'm more than willing to admit that demoman is too good. I gues... : Sexpansion Pack
• NO YUO! : Hansson
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  is there a map like dustbowl? from tfc. : thief
  • hmmmmm i don't think so. maybe "hydro" : JINKY
  • Um... there is... dustbowl : Omaha
  • Do I [ lol ] or [ sad panda ] this? : dmason
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  I've actually been getting better and better at not getting killed by demomen, buff/nerf or whatever. ... : Silent Sorrow
  • Not to be the pyro crusader here, but isn't that how it should be? Past 6 feet, a pyro's best weapon is ... : Finestaut
• This is a significant nerf, but I think it's justified. I all but stopped playing soldier once I realize : VinnieTheSquid
• I use almost exclusively sticky bombs which are far superior anyways. I do spam the normal one around cor... : razlebol
• I was a lot more upset to find out that the pipebombs were now sticky grenades and could not be exploded ... : Old_Fart
• Get better at hitting things directly with your primary weapon. Secondary bounce direct hits are almost ... : alias